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Greek Strikes Take a Turn for the Worse: See the Stunning Video

Greek Protests Turn Violent, Police Unleash Tear Gas in Response to Rocks and Molotov Cocktails

Graffiti on a street in Athens. Unions have called for a walkout that is expected to bring out thousands of Greeks to the streets. Photo: AP

ATHENS, Greece (TheBlaze/AP) — Police clashed with protesters hurling petrol bombs and bottles in central Athens Wednesday after an anti-government rally called as part of a general strike in Greece turned violent.

Riot police used tear gas and pepper spray against several hundred demonstrators after the violence broke out near the country’s parliament. Protesters also set fire to trees in the National Gardens and used hammers to smash paving stones and marble panels to use as missiles against the riot police.

About 50,000 people joined the union-organized march in central Athens on Wednesday, held during a general strike against new austerity measures planned in the crisis-hit country. The action, the first large-scale walk-out since the country’s coalition government was formed in June, closed schools and disrupted flights and most services.

Everyone from shopkeepers and pharmacists to teachers, customs workers and car mechanics joined the demonstration, seen as a test of public tolerance for more hardship after two years of harsh spending cuts and tax hikes.

“People, fight, they’re drinking your blood,” protesters chanted as they banged drums.

As the strike got under way Wednesday, Greece’s prime minister and finance minister hammered out a €11.5 billion ($14.87 billion) package of spending cuts demanded by the country’s international lenders.

Greece’s politicians have struggled to come up with more austerity measures that would be acceptable to its rescue creditors, with disagreements arising between the three parties that make up the coalition government. The country has been dependent on international loans from other eurozone countries and the International Monetary Fund since mid-2010. Without them, Greece would be forced into a chaotic default on its debts and possibly into an exit from the 17-country bloc that uses the euro.

The country’s lenders have demanded more fiscal reforms if they are to continue issuing more rescue payouts. The next payment of €31 billion hinges on the government agreeing to further cuts.

Finance Minister Yannis Stournaras and Prime Minister Antonis Samaras formulated a deal on the new €11.5 billion austerity package for 2013-14, along with another €2 billion in improved tax collection, a finance ministry official said Wednesday morning.

The other two party leaders were to be briefed by Samaras on Thursday, a party official said. Both spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record.

Wednesday’s strike shut down the Acropolis, Greece’s most famous tourist site, and halted flights for hours. Ferry services were suspended, schools, shops and gas stations were closed and hospitals were functioning on emergency staff.

One of those striking was Athens hospital worker Alkis Betses, who has seen his monthly salary fall from €1,300 to €800 ($1,680 to $1,035), says new cuts will bring it down to €600 ($775).

“How can you survive on 600 a month, with ever-rising taxes, and continue to pay bills and buy necessary supplies?”

Betses said hospitals have been hard hit by spending cuts, with staff shortages and long delays in doctors’ overtime pay for night shifts.

“The resentment has been there for long before the new measures. Imagine what will happen when they’re made public,” he said.

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Comments (74)

  • operatorbob1
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 5:03pm

    this is what will happen here ,the moochers are running the show.

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  • vox_populi
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:27pm

    Solidarity with the Greek workers and workers fighting against class oppression everywhere. May no harm come to the people of Greece, may their revolution be a peaceful one.

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 5:12pm

      What does “solidarity” mean? You wish we were starving under centrally planned societal governance? You want more nationalization in America so that we can have the problems of the Greeks?

      Idiot.

      Capitalism isn’t killing them. It’s the opposite. If they had more Capitalism and less Socialism, they wouldn’t be in that mess.

      You’re message is anti-freedom. Capitalism is freedom. That’s why statists like yourself hate it. You want LESS freedom in the form of central planning from the federal level. You are a dangerously stupid individual.

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    • Thevoice
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 6:50pm

      Please ..Take your “New age progressive communisum ” Your supported closet communist Obama and leave …The day is fast approaching for both you the new quasi communist and your kindred the Muslims ….To answer the the question…Are you prepared to die for your misguided beliefs …I would suggest you are mentally prepared…

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    • vox_populi
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 7:53pm

      “What does ‘solidarity’ mean?”

      That I hope their attempts to resist the umpteenth round of austerity measures being pushed from a centrally planned organization – the IMF – are successful, and that their government stops trying to win German bailout money by destroying their own people.

      “You wish we were starving under centrally planned societal governance? You want more nationalization in America so that we can have the problems of the Greeks?”

      You know ‘when you assume, …’ etc., etc,.

      Idiot.

      “If they had more Capitalism and less Socialism”

      You keep using these words… I do not think they mean what you think they mean.

      “You’re message is anti-freedom.”

      So freedom is enslavement to multinational creditor organizations legislating from outside the country? Freedom is the loss of representation within your own government? Freedom is eternal debt that you didn’t incur that must be payed with your blood? You have a strange definition of freedom, comrade.

      “Capitalism is freedom.”

      lol.

      “That’s why statists like yourself hate it.”

      Mmm? Where did I advocate ‘statism?’ Whoever taught you all these words should teach you the definitions.

      “You want LESS freedom in the form of central planning from the federal level.”

      Yes, tell me more about what *I* apparently want. This is all fascinating news to me.

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    • vox_populi
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 7:58pm

      “Are you prepared to die for your misguided beliefs”

      Why should I have to? Socialism is on the advance; neoliberalism is on the retreat.

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    • Brentley
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 10:28pm

      YOU don’t get it. This is not about workers. This is about communism, socialism. The system of getting something for nothing does not work. Has never worked and will never work. Getting something for nothing is lazy and irresponsible. So is taking from those who have and giving to those that have not. If it is forced giving to those less fortunate it is not charity it is ROBBERY. So no solidarity. Reset the system let those that are failing fail and those that prosper, prosper. No more bailouts.

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    • expresso
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 11:22pm

      @VOX_POPULI
      You sound like a 25 years old community organizer, living in your mom’s basement, Che Guevara T-shirts, nose rings, right hand as your girlfriend, cheating with your left, driving an old Volvo, dreaming for a Prius, MSNBC fan, hates FoxNews, still believe in “Hope”, “change” is in your pocket, Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama….free pot, free food, free gas, free meth clinics, free condoms, free free, free Mumia Jamal, free free again. Yeaaah!!!
      PS. Did I get any right?

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    • The Third Archon
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:37pm

      “YOU don’t get it. This is not about workers.”
      That’s EXACTLY what socialism is about.
      “This is about communism, socialism.”
      Not the same things.
      “The system of getting something for nothing does not work.”
      I agree–being able to make money MERELY by owning things, with no connection to the labor one does WITH those things, or the value one contributes through such use to the PRODUCT thereof (i.e. capitalism, specifically the allowance of capital gains independent one’s USE of that capital), ISN’T meritocratic at all, and is the very DEFINITION of getting something for nothing (and even worse and to the point, something for nothing with no useful PURPOSE).
      “Has never worked and will never work.”
      THAT’S not true–capitalism WORKS, it just doesn’t work as WELL as possible, better, alternative systems of capital good ownership.
      “Getting something for nothing is lazy and irresponsible.”
      Yes, extracting rents from absentee titular ownership of capital goods IS lazy and irresponsible socioeconomics.
      “So is taking from those who have and giving to those that have not.”
      Not when it serves the purpose of increasing net utility.
      “If it is forced giving to those less fortunate it is not charity it is ROBBERY.”
      Not when the government does it–assuming the legitimacy of their authority, they are authorized to do so.
      “Reset the system let those that are failing fail and those that prosper, prosper.”
      That’s called “the state of nature”.

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    • The Third Archon
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:39pm

      @EXPRESSO
      I see you’ve credulously absorbed the straw-men of “Faux News” and Glenn Beck.

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  • FaithfulFriend
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:06pm

    This is bound to happen when a society doesn’t have the music of Lionel Richie to hold them together.

    Say you?

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  • Truth4SureNuff
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:04pm

    I have a 10 million Mark note from the Weimar Republic, it would buy you a loaf of bread

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  • Reload
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 2:34pm

    Coming soon, to a city near you.

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    • TexasHunter
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 2:47pm

      Time to put away the rubber bullets and start making a real “hallow”point! When you try to set someone on fire then you are trying to murder that person. They have every right to protect themselves with lethal force. IMHO

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  • Elena2010
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 2:30pm

    HA! It’s not the capitalism that crushes; it’s the socialism.

    Capitalism makes more prosperous than other systems of economic structure.

    Socialism makes everyone equally poor and steal initiative and innovation.

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    • Cavallo
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 2:46pm

      Unless you find more and more people to steal and expropriate from. In their case, Germany, France, etc… in ours, China and whoever else lends us the unseemingly massive amounts of cash for bonds to support our deficit.

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  • valleyfever
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:48pm

    When you work for the government or draw a government check, the government can reduce your benefit at any time the money runs out. Of course if the government can print money then you get still get the same amount. The problem is that when the government prints money (QE3) , whatever money you have or get in a benefit is simply worth less and doesn’t go as far paying your bills. The end result is the same as in Greece. Wake up folks!!

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:58pm

      It’s worse than that. In many places (US, Spain, etc) pay/benefits/entitlements are inflation indexed. So the government either has to lie about inflation. (See the US model…three revisions since 1980) or they have to print to pay the increases thus creating some sort of death spiral circular reference effect.

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    • KevINtampa
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 2:20pm

      For the last time, well probably not:

      What the government giveth, the government will taketh away.

      It’s why I have zero problem with ending ALL welfare. When you receive from the government you know that it will one day end. One day your King, Congress, or Parliament will stop giving that to you. Every human knows this, it’s just that some don’t want to believe it. It’s why I don’t want government involved or , especially, running our healthcare system. One day the WILL take it away.

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    • johnjamison
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 2:31pm

      What did James Madison say ,A government that can give it’s citizens everything can also take away everything.

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  • Chuck7884
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:39pm

    As companies and corporations move there factories to centralized locations like China and India .we are going to see more and more of this! to include our own nation as more and more unemployment occurs due to lack of jobs in various countries.

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    • Cavallo
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 2:24pm

      And what would be your solution?

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    • StanO360
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:21pm

      That is not a reasonable assumption. China will and is suffering from inflation. China is stealing from it’s own people by suppressing the Yuan against the dollar just to make things cheaper here. The answer is to have government policies that are not “out to get” business. Stop taxing corporations out of the country, stop regulating them out of the country, stop demonizing them.

      We are the most efficient workforce in the world (at least for a large country), if the government would stop trying to shape the economy and interfering with it, we will prosper.

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  • NeoFan
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:32pm

    Ah yes the fruits of Utopian Socialism. The farther they get from Liberty, Freedom, and Capitalism the more violent they become. Same thing is happening here to a lesser degree. Free people don’t riot. Free people don’t starve.

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    • Cavallo
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 2:29pm

      They really need to kick Greece out of the EU, let the Greeks support the Greeks. See how long their little society lasts with their philosophies. Really we need to do the same thing here.. stop borrowing money from foreign countries and live off our own revenue for a change. In fact we really need to live below our revenue so we can start to pay down the debt a bit. If we can’t live off of 2 Trillion in tax revenue then we’re utterly moronic.

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  • pigsarei
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:27pm

    Here’s one of the real reason for the debt:

    Al-Jazeera paints a sympathetic picture of hard working Muslim immigrants who are under attack by what they call “racists.” But there’s nothing racist about being against the nearly 2 million Muslim illegals from Turkey and North Africa, most of whom are being fed and housed by the Greek government.
    Greece is on the verge of bankruptcy. There are not enough jobs for Greek citizens, so of course they resent these intruders for stealing their jobs, not to mention sucking off the government teat that their tax dollars fund. I won’t even go into the crime surge caused by these illegal aliens.

    http://www.infidelnewsnetwork.com/greece-it-isnt-racism-its-anti-illegal-immigration-flooding-the-country-with-muslim-parasites-and-bottom-feeders/

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    • RANGER1965
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:45pm

      You are PARTIALLY….right.

      Muslim immigrants are causing all kinds of problems in Greece right now. Many are illegal and sapping what few resources the country has. This is also the focus of the Golden Dawn party because it’s a visible problem that is easy to understand, and intuitive to the masses.

      But it distracts from the primary problem that has led to this crisis. Greek lawmakers during the economic “good times” sold the citizens of Greece a bill of goods. They told them that they would raise their taxes really high, but they would completely take care of them.

      They would give them free schools, free medical, free basic food, early retirement, and long vacations. The people bought the bill of goods, including the many immigrants and illegal immigratns that moved into the country.

      When times became bad and the country of Greece could not afford to give the people what was promised…(note: they didn’t lower the taxes either). People became pissed, and the lawmakers all quietly faded away, took their money and fled to differerent countries.

      The new leadership is only compounding the problem and Germany is just about fed up with propping up all the countries in the EU.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 2:06pm

      @Ranger,

      You are absolutely correct. I’ll take it a step further if you’ll allow me. Goldman Sachs helped hide the financial situation of Greece to allow them entry through a massive Credit Default Swap transaction back in 2001. GS made a boatload of money on the deal. When the underlying assets deteriorated and the counterparty risk kicked in guess who footed the bill? You got it….YOU!!!! GS took 13B in bailout funds to get tier 1 capital ratios in order. Of course they later lobbied for changes in mark to market rules so that the junk derivatives would suddenly have value thus allowing them to leverage up again on taxpayer (future) capital.

      Throw in that they politically run the WH and you start to see who the real bogeyman is.

      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-06/goldman-secret-greece-loan-shows-two-sinners-as-client-unravels.html

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  • PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:27pm

    When he open the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and brothers who were to be killed, as they had been, was complete. NIV Rev 6:9-11 No one knows what is going to happen, or when, or why except God. This just jumped out at me today after I read Ephesians and then clicked on this story. I remain humble and pray to him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb.

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    • Robinking
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 10:28pm

      I’m a scientist by profession and nature, so I really never believed in God. I’ve read the Bible and the Koran. I wasn’t raised in the church, but I was the typical “Christian American”; the default position many now take. My drunken father baptized me when I was 15, but he was sincere and a very nice drunk. My point: I don’t know HOW I got to where I am, but I recently went all-in with God. The minute I realized God was real, I welled up in tears. It was a private moment, as have been almost all of my religious epiphanies. When I connected with the Holy Spirit, nothing else mattered. Now, I understand God’s plan and I’m at peace. I’ve realized that ALL of the Biblical conditions necessary for the end times to come, have been met. I’m not afraid anymore. God bless all of you and I pray all can feel what I felt that day I woke up!

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on September 27, 2012 at 3:12am

      God Bless you ROBINKING! You made my day! I have a similar story..

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  • RANGER1965
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:26pm

    Greek lawmakers are practically under siege. They are looking for anything to divert national attention away from them, and onto somthing else. A police created massacre (justified or not) would fall right into their plans.

    A large percentage of the Greek Police, and many in their military are; if not fond of, actively supporting the Golden Dawn party. This party is growing in power and popularity because it promises strict nationalism, a new currency, and uses immigrants especially Muslim ones as a scapegoat for all of the problems in Greece.

    This party is a serious threat to the lawmakers, so being able to blame a massacre on the police and indirectly the Golden Dawn party is just what they are looking for. The police knows this, and they also know that the nation’s leaders DO NOT have their back, so they are being really careful right now.

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  • PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:16pm

    Unions are the tool of the Communists. Greece will soon look like beautiful Detroit.

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  • pap pap
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:04pm

    Apparently Econ 101 is not taught in Greece or to Liberals in general, certainly not to socialists. It’s pretty simple, you just need to stay awake in class and you will learn something very valuable.

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    • capitalismrocks
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:33pm

      These people retire at like 52, its pathetic over there, they get away with murder and then when the country realizes it can’t subsidize these people’s lazy lives they sudden go nuts, only ones that have any REAL work ethic get out, come here to the US… you ever been in a Greek Diner or met a Greek family that has immigrated to the US??? Those people LIVE to work hard, they are VERY strong families and they don’t shun a hard days work, THOSE are the types of REAL American immigrants that you want to encourage and warmly welcome into the US.

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 2:15pm

      CAPITALISMROCKS: Stereotype much? They could say the same things about Americans. You should see the “lazy government pensions” we have here…sigh. This IS coming to a town near you and it is NOT because Americans are lazy. It will be because of out of control government spending, beurocracy, federal reserve, and redistribution of wealth buy the federal government.

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    • Chromo200
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:29pm

      pap pap … Econ is not taught here either .. what is taught is how to be greedy and screw every one. What is taught is income redistribution for most and the 1% will not be subject to the rules for the masses.

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  • Sirfoldallot
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:02pm

    If they r drinking blood over there the food crisses must be really bad 4 the Greek people.

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  • jordy2010
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:01pm

    It’s quite obvious in this video who is throwing firebombs……..why don’t the cops shot and kill it??? (not a typo)

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 12:55pm

    See what happens when you run out of other people’s money?

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  • Exrepublisheep
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 12:53pm

    I don’t like internet tough guys, bur if someone threw a “petrol bomb” at me, it wouldn’t be teargas I’d be throwing back.

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  • NachtundNebel
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 12:53pm

    Police: use real ammunition. A pile of dead rioters is going to clarify the issue immediately. Germany: cut off all aid to Greece and all participation in any multinational financial body that aids Greece. Allow them to withdraw, resurrect the Drachma, drag the value down to zero, and starve. That is the end result of all socialism. Let them starve, and let the rest of the world take note.

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    • vox_populi
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:01pm

      “Police: use real ammunition. A pile of dead rioters is going to clarify the issue immediately. ”

      Yes – that armed revolution is the only answer.

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    • NachtundNebel
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:08pm

      Vox, it won’t work out like 1917 again. The Tsar had self-imposed limits. We’ve learned from his mistakes.

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    • JRook
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:11pm

      Well don’t tell Denmark or Sweden that as they are doing rather well. And let’s not forget what events caused the world economic downturn in 2007. Hint it began in a capitalist country.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:24pm

      And what caused our downturn is still going on. Forcing banks to give loans to people who they KNOW cannot or will not pay it back. All started by Jimmy the 1st, forwarded on by Slick-Willie, and pushed by Owebama when he was a Senator. The CRA.

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    • vox_populi
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 4:27pm

      “Vox, it won’t work out like 1917 again. The Tsar had self-imposed limits. We’ve learned from his mistakes.”

      You call a protracted civil war ‘self-imposed limits’?

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  • RANGER1965
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 12:51pm

    It’s not surprising that the communists/socialists/facists are on the rise, and doing so well.

    The best examples of Capitolism today is Obama’s bankrupt crony capitolism. Marry that with a corrupt Federal Reserve; who in it’s great wisdom seems to have fallen prey to the idiotic belief that if they can just print enough money, why….everything will be alright.

    With such examples, is it any wonder that it’s so easy to sell the stupidity of Socialism, especially to the young?

    Pathetic!

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  • JACKTHETOAD
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 12:48pm

    Gyros and blood, gyros and blood, I’m gonna get me some gyros and blood. Moohaha. ( I coulda had a V8 too. )

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  • bikerdogred1
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 12:46pm

    If they kill each other maybe that will drop the price of everything.

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  • Lordcsmith
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 12:46pm

    Wait a minute…. If they have socialized medicine and it’s a hospital worker that’ complaining, it’s not capitalism that’s killing them, it’s bureaucracy. And people over here are asking for this? Sheesh. I guess it’s true, “you eventually run out of other people’s money”

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  • panache
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 12:44pm

    We’re on our way. Vote for Obama and we’ll be there by next year.

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    • Shasta
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:31pm

      And if OBummer doesn’t win the riots will begin this year. Either way, there is serious trouble ahead.

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  • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
    Posted on September 26, 2012 at 12:41pm

    Okay, I’m getting sorta ticked off here. Capitalism has been dead for 100 years you morons!

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    • vox_populi
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:03pm

      “Okay, I’m getting sorta ticked off here. Capitalism has been dead for 100 years you morons!”

      Nonsense. Private ownership of capital and the strength of the ownership class has been a norm for centuries. Call it feudalism, call it capitalism, what have you, it remains the status quo of power relations.

      If you’re referring to a “free market,” then you’re only half-correct, since such a thing doesn’t exist.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 1:33pm

      You paint with too broad a brush. At best we have plutocracy. More likely it is fascism. But yes, my lament was more towards the operational context of capitalism that is indeed non-existent.

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    • Chromo200
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 3:44pm

      Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on September 26, 2012 at 12:41pm
      Okay, I’m getting sorta ticked off here. Capitalism has been dead for 100 years you morons!

      So you expect a free for all … no rules regarding anything. .. Thanks for calling me a moron.

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    • The Third Archon
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:41pm

      Plutocracy is the direct and inevitable result OF capitalism–it is EXACTLY what capitalism is DESIGNED to result in.

      As for fascism–it goes hand-in-hand with capitalism.

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