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Atheists Lash Out at ‘Religious Right’ With Gay-Themed Billboard: ‘Ban Marriage Between Church & State’

Sep. 27, 2012 12:49pm Billy Hallowell

The Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF), an atheist activist non-profit, is advertising a new billboard that uses gay themes to argue against faith in the public sphere. The ad, which reads, “Ban Marriage Between Church and State,” was erected in Smithville, Missouri, in response to a separate, Christian sign reaffirming that marriage is between one man and one woman.

The new 14 by 48 foot atheist ad uses a rainbow, a symbol familiar to the gay community, to make its case. The “Ban Marriage Between Church and State” billboard was recently placed near an ad put up by Catholic Radio that reads, “1 Man, 1 Woman, Forever.”

FFRF Posts Gay Themed Billboard in MO Against Church & State, Christians

Photo Credit: Freedom From Religion Foundation

Smillville resident Matt Gaines employed the FFRF to post the message after he saw the Catholic Radio ad and contended that it is overtly offensive to homosexuals. He also said that it takes aim at any individual who has gone through a divorce, the FFRF web site proclaims.

“To denigrate other people’s relationships or the decisions they have had to make with their outdated religious dogmas is simply shameful,” Gaines is quoted as saying.

Gained apparently helped the activist group locate a place for the billboard, while also donating monies to the cause. In speaking out about the initiative, Annie Laurie Gaylor, co-president of FFRF, lambasted the “religious right,” while specifically naming Mormons, Roman Catholics and “fundamentalist Protestant churches and organizations.”

“The only organized opposition to marriage equality comes from the Religious Right. Mormon, Roman Catholic and fundamentalist Protestant churches and organizations have spent hundreds of millions to amend state constitutions to ban gay marriage in the name of Christianity,” she proclaimed. “Religious dogma must be kept out of our secular laws.”

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Critters58
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 5:44pm
They are not going to win! No way stay strong America. It may be a long road but we will win!

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- SLAPTHELEFT
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 6:15pm
  Black churches urging members not to vote for obama due to his pro gay marriage stance.
  
  Thanks for the help gay folk!
  
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- ChrisDiamond
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 11:56am
  Critter, what do you ‘win’, precisely, by denying people who do not share your views or religious values rights that you have to a legal recognition of your marriage to your husband or wife? How does legalizing gay marriage infringe on any of your natural rights? You don’t have the right to not be offended, and you do not have the right to infringe on other people’s rights (Infringing on rights of some in the name of others is what government is for). This a fundamental aspect of liberty, and of respect for it. If you do not respect liberty for others (even those who dare disagree with you or have different morals/values), then you don’t respect liberty.
  
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ricklap
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 3:48pm
When are these morons going to take a Constitution 101 class and learn it’s Separation OF church and state NOT FROM!

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- kimbolimbo
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 3:54pm
  Why is your faith allowed to dictate law and other people’s beliefs aren’t?
  
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- fireball58
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 4:20pm
  Why is your denial allowed to dictate law? Who are you to say there is no God?
  
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- marcked
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 4:29pm
  All legislation is someones morality. And, all countries (past and present) are founded on philosophy. Ours is (was) Judea/Christian; Stalin’s was Atheism. BTW… Atheism too is a religion. It is a belief in a evolutionary-godless existence. Neither components of that faith based organization can be proven.
  
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- another pucker
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 4:33pm
  @ricklap
  Thank you! every time I see this kind of, yes, crap I want to scream at the top of my lungs. This is just another example of liberal education system. Freedom of does not mean Freedom from! This also goes with the idea that separation of church and state has nothing to do with the government being the leaders of the church.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 4:52pm
  another pucker
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 4:33pm
  
  @ricklap
  Thank you! every time I see this kind of, yes, crap I want to scream at the top of my lungs. This is just another example of liberal education system. Freedom of does not mean Freedom from! This also goes with the idea that separation of church and state has nothing to do with the government being the leaders of the church.
  ________________
  It goes mean a government that is neutral when it comes to religion. Instead, the majority of Christians seem to demand a government that is responsive solely their beliefs and pass laws that reflect Christian beliefs. We are a secular republic and the sooner the Christians realize we are not a theocracy the better.
  
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- SLAPTHELEFT
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 6:10pm
  Encinom and kimbo
  
  Dont worry this will all be straightened out once we live under sharia law. We will be waiting for your seperations of church and state to save js when you brave souls stand up for all of us.
  
  We know you have the cajones. Thanks for standing strong in the face of islam. Godspeed.
  
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- SLAPTHELEFT
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 6:13pm
  Encinom
  
  Please enlighten me- the last “christian law” that weve advocated for the passage of. Not voted, but begged our legislators to pass- im drawing a blank.
  
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- FoxholeAtheist
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 7:04pm
  Slaptheright, you act as though Xtians are the only thing standing in the way of our way of life and Muslims when in fact, you are just as bad. Please leave my country.
  
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- BloodSweatandTears
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 11:31pm
  A refresher….
  First Amendment:
  Congress shall make no law respecting an ESTABLISHMENT of religion, or PROHIBITING the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
  
  Clear as daylight. Funny how so many like to change the words and run with it.
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 10:18am
  Foxholeidiot. Make us. Can you dodge bullets?
  
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- ChrisDiamond
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:01pm
  AnotherPucker:
  “Thank you! every time I see this kind of, yes, crap I want to scream at the top of my lungs. This is just another example of liberal education system. Freedom of does not mean Freedom from! This also goes with the idea that separation of church and state has nothing to do with the government being the leaders of the church.”
  
  So you actually enjoy the democracy touted by the liberals, huh? A tyranny by the majority? Where Christians band together and influence the government to do precisely the opposite of what Thomas Jefferson said the purpose of government is. You want to use the government to take away the liberty of people who disagree with you, instead of a republican government doing what it is supposed to do: protecting and preserving individual liberty.
  
  The ‘legalization’ of gay marriage would, in no way infringe on your natural rights. If it offends you, well… sorry. You do not have the right to remain unoffended. You also do not have the right to infringe on the rights of others, but despite claiming to be small government (as I imagine you do), you would readily use the government to deny liberty to others. Look in the mirror, statist.
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 12:39am
  That makes NO sense! if your separate From church and state then you must be an atheists on a deserted island.. right to be separated from the two
  
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fireball58
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 3:45pm
Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:37pm
You ever notice that these wimps seem to target the pacifist religion? Maybe they should take their message to Egypt or Pakistan so we can see them decapitated on YouTube.
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phillyatheist
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:47pm
ROTH – oddly i’ve never seen a Muslim billboard with which to counter message. have you?

Why spend money for a billboard when you can just kill the infidels?

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- DIMITRIINPA
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 4:04pm
  I’d LOVE to see that one happen!
  
  When a few Middle Eastern children detonate in front of the FFR office they’d get religion!
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 4:54pm
  Well in the US it is the Christians that are demanding the government and the laws bend to their set of myths. We have, by the Constitution, a secular republic and its time for the Christians to realize this.
  
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- gosutag
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 8:35pm
  @FIREBALL58:
  
  After reading a couple of your posts I can’t help but think you’re stuck on stupid.
  
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vaman
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 3:02pm
Outdated religious dogma is the perfect explanation of the radical christian fundamentalist. Always question the sanity and intelligence of anyone that wants to set 21st century social policy based on a book of myths cobbled together during the Bronze Age. Especially when considering the rural American evangelical is the least educated and most superstitious individual in this country. The ultra right catholic has had, in many instances, the god doctrine beaten in to them. If not physically, then by generations of guilt built in to the concept of obedience. The vicious cycle of sin, guilt, tithe, repent and repeat. A life time of that would make anyone neurotic. Everyone agrees mormonism is a bizarre cultish belief system, started by a criminal and societal outcast. The overall fear with topics like gay marriage is the religious fundamentalist thinks he or she is going to lose something. When in fact, that is not the case. “Biblical truth” was used to justify the most horrid things in this country, to include slavery, Jim Crow laws and the subjugation of women. Like these examples, the religious radicals will not be able to fend off the future indefinitely. The fear mongering is losing its appeal more and more every day. Gay marriage is an inevitability.
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- mruggles
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 3:31pm
  What EXACTLY is the myth? Are Israel, Egypt, Lebanon, Libya, Arabai, Persia myths? What about murder, adultry, lying and stealing? Are those myths as well. Love, marriage, family, community, government, laws. Are these myths?
  
  The realy myth is that there are no consequences and man is free to do whatever he wants. If this is true then why are ther MILLIONS of laws?
  
  What you seem to miss is that the Creator desires the absolute best for his creation. And purity is a big part of that. If you want to know how much God loves look at all He tries to protect you from. Compare it to the non-god Satan who has no laws whatsoever. Who do you really think is looking out for your best interest.
  
  And do you want to know how much God loves you…enough to sacrafice Himself on your behalf, because he knew you never could.
  
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- Female
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 3:52pm
  “…sexual orientation has been associated with multiple health threats. Members of the LGBT community are at increased risk for a number of health threats when compared to their heterosexual peers [1-5].”
  
  http://www.cdc.gov/lgbthealth/about.htm Other special sections (PGS) for each topic listed with special diseases and concerns for each population
  
  The main pathogens that are commonly looked for in feces include:
  Bacteroides species
  Salmonella and Shigella
  Yersinia tends to be incubated at 30 °C (86 °F), which is cooler than usual
  Campylobacter incubated at 42 °C (108 °F), in a special environment
  Aeromonas
  Candida if the person is immunosuppressed (e.g., undergoing cancer treatment)
  E. coli O157 if blood is visible in the stool sample
  Cryptosporidium
  Entamoeba histolytica
  
  Intestinal parasites and their ova (eggs) can sometimes be visible to the naked eye
  
  STDs, HIV/AIDS, Hepititus, substance abuse, violence, suicide, premature death 50s instead of 70s, cancers, chemical imbalances, hormonal issues, tissue destruction, etc…
  
  http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_and_Anal_Cancer
  
  NEW Disease
  http://www.nytimes.com/1982/05/11/science/new-homosexual-disorder-worries-health-officials.html?pagewanted=all
  
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- DeavonReye
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:46pm
  MRuggles, . . . . I deleted what I WAS going to say here, . . . . but using the “he died in your place” line doesn’t have a draw on some people, especially when they consider and contemplate the deeper meaning of such an ideology.
  
  As for “myths”, . . . a book can include many facts within it, yet still have an aspect of myth as well. Setting stories within actual locations [or even people] is not hard to do. However, claiming supernatural events, . . . until it [supernatural events] can be examined, tested, and verified, . . . then they are as much myth as any other religious belief system from all other cultures on the planet.
  
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NewtonsAmbit
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:45pm
Atheism is a religion. Don’t pretend it isn’t. Much of the theories science throw around are THEORIES. Just because you can replicate them doesn’t make them true. Look at the assumptions first. The assumption is based on a world veiw. The medical industry and their science is an example: Their clinicals pick and choose the participants based on the outcome they want. I know plenty of extrodinary scientists who are honest and also believe in God. Most athiests are shallow, bitter, and sad. Put the Atheists and thier religion on a island by themselves and you would have “Lord of the Flies.” When the fecal matter hits the fan go take care of yourselves, and if your sincere, don’t take help from the well organized Christians.

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- mruggles
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 3:37pm
  You’re exactly right. EVERYONE BELIEVES SOMETHING. It’s just a matter of what and why. As for me, I believe what the Bible says is true and I believe there is a God in Heaven who loves me and desires the best for me. I also believe that we live in a scary world that seems to push “NO LAWS” at all. The end result will be anarchy. And when this country falls into chaos and rebellion your “sexual preference” will mean about as much as a soiled diaper and the government you think loves you will quickly care less about your cause.
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 12:36am
  Look the existence of God is a universal negative, means it can’t be proven or disproven. many things in the Bible can be disproven however. such as no evidence of a world wide flood, man wasn’t created from dirt, as the bible claims. and of course earth is billions of years old not a few thousand. now be willfully ignorant all you want but don’t base humans rights to marry whom they love on one sentence in the old testament of your flawed book.
  
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right field
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:35pm
The only way to have “marriage equality” is to have a Constitutional Amendment that makes it unconstitutional for government to ask for or use martial status for any purpose. Why should marital status even matter in the public sector?
Get government at every level out of having control over anyone’s lives based on marital status.
Leave the definition of marriage to religious institutions.
If one religion wants to define marriage one way and another wants to define marriage another way then fine – so be it.
People can join these religious groups based on their definitions of marriage along with other issues such as abortion, drinking alcohol, allowing women to become priests, whether women should cover their faces in public, and on, and on.
Religious definitions of marriage should not be part of public policy regardless of how it is defined by Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Atheist or any other group that claims to have religious or non-religious definitions of marriage.
Trying to make everyone happy by defining marriage through public policy will never result in a policy that will be accepted by all the people.
If government cannot define the absolute benefit of the being married as a critical constitutional issue, then take it out of public policy as a variable to be used for making any public policy decision.

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Dano.50
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:19pm
Actually, Phillyathiest, it does affect everybody else because they, and you, are forcing your beliefs upon us.

You are teaching our kids to reject our morals and values and you are actively ridiculing our traditions and forcing their removal from public display while openly displaying yours.

I’m a Catholic with a couple atheist family members and we get along just fine because they don’t come into my house and tell me I’m stupid for having a crucifix on the wall and I don’t go into their and tell them to get their kids to church.

If Planned Parenthood organizations are allowed in schools to speak to our children, then why isn’t each and every religious group allowed the same privilege.

Apparently it’s because people like you are intolerant, bigoted, and too closed minded to allow lifestyles “alternative” to yours to make their case.

You don’t want equality.

You want want to “Lord” it over us.

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- phillyatheist
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:52pm
  “You are teaching our kids to reject our morals and values and you are actively ridiculing our traditions”
  
  if your morals suck, prepare to get ridiculed. please keep in mind, as you said, these are your traditions. you don’t want to be gay married that’s fine by me. but if others want to stop trying to force your traditions on people who aren’t you.
  
  younger people today aren’t accepting of gay marriage because they’ve been brainswashed. they accept gay people because they know them, they like them, and they see no reason why they shouldn’t be able to enjoy all the rights of the rest of their friends or family.
  
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- mruggles
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 3:51pm
  Am I closed minded when I ask someone not to lie to me? Am I closed minded when I dont let my daughter play at her friends house because her father is constantly watching pornagraphy? Am I closed minded becuase I expect my wife to remain faithful to me just as I remain faithful to her? Am I closed minded because I believe “Peace, Joy and Love” are awesome attributes that everyone should pursue and enjoy?
  
  Quick question: Can there be peace without forgiveness? If so, please explain. If not, please explain.
  
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- ChrisDiamond
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:14pm
  MRUGGLES:
  “Am I closed minded when I ask someone not to lie to me?” No, but apparently we are for asking you all to quit declaring the ‘truth’ of something you cannot prove exists. And ‘God’ help us (HA!) if we try to help you understand the nature of your fairy tale… one of despotic control through manipulation and guilt.
  
  Am I closed minded when I dont let my daughter play at her friends house because her father is constantly watching pornagraphy?” How do you know he is constantly watching porn? Now if your daughter reports it, then I wouldn’t send her again, but that’s having common sense as a parent. I don’t need your God to have common parental sense, and neither do you.
  
  “Am I closed minded becuase I expect my wife to remain faithful to me just as I remain faithful to her?” Nope. You don’t need God for that, either. You 2 make an agreement by law to each other; a contract. Reneging on any contract you freely enter into with full understanding is morally reprehensible, even without religion.
  
  “Am I closed minded because I believe “Peace, Joy & Love” are awesome attributes that everyone should pursue & enjoy?” Nope, but all the pro-war (killing, hate etc) people I know are religious. I do not know a single atheist who is pro-war, or pro-senseless killing.
  
  “Can there be peace without forgiveness?”
  It appears you’re trying to give JC full domain/ownership of forgiveness. That’s hogwash. Forgiveness quells inner turmoil, and atheists fo
  
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listeninginVT
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:17pm
their stupidity is only matched by their ignorance.

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- ChrisDiamond
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:37pm
  TeresaJ
  The law cannot discriminate, so your statement about gays having no claim to marriage is not grounds for a preferential law for heterosexuals. IMO, marriage shouldn’t require a law, whether the people are gay or straight. The state has no business in this arena. Further, you make some pretty glib connections w/immorality & welfare. Welfare is a tool of the progressives to maintain/grow a voting base. The GOVERNMENT created welfare and the prison system, not the ‘degenrates’ you’re speaking of. Point your gun at the degenrates in suits up in DC. I think welfare is a tool to maintain slavery and would like to see it (social & corporate welfare) completely abolished. As an atheist, I’m sure I fall into the category of people you would consider immoral, but I am not on welfare, in prison, and would never tell you when or where or how you could worship your God because I demand the right to not worship. All of the other gripes you have about gay groups could be eliminated if we abolished the government. See, the government looks out for/caters to special interests, not you. Live & let live, respect liberty for ALL, and take personal responsibility.
  
  FEMALE
  If these gays (& starights) are performing their ‘disgusting’ acts in front of you, or forcing you to watch them, I’d say you have a legit gripe. But they aren’t. You’re complaining about what you don’t like and want to use government to restrict the liberty of others who disagree with you. STATIST!
  
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phillyatheist
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:45pm
“The only organized opposition to marriage equality comes from the Religious Right. Mormon, Roman Catholic and fundamentalist Protestant churches and organizations have spent hundreds of millions to amend state constitutions to ban gay marriage in the name of Christianity,”

this. exactly. why is it that uber religious folk give a crap about whether other people are getting married and to whom? how does it affect your lives? your marriages? it doesn’t. you know it too. stop wasting people’s time in order to force your religious values on other people. mind your own freaking business.

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- MrSunshine
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:53pm
  How ’bout you nefarious little shrews quit babling about the “seperation of church & state”….it doesn’t exist….it is a flat out lie….the first amendment guarantees freedom OF religion. The first amendment states as follows: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
  
  What part of that don’t you boneheads understand? Keep reading it over and over….what religion has Congress established? dips#it!
  
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- The Third Archon
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:05pm
  @SUNSHINE
  Awwwww–is the little theist gonna throw a temper tantrum because he can’t have a theocracy? Wahhhhh, wahhhh!
  
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- phillyatheist
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:10pm
  MRSUNSHINE – perhaps you should rethink your screen name. maybe IMRICKSANTORUM or ISTANDWITHRICKPERRY.
  
  to claim that Separation of Church/State is a myth is patently absurd. what is the matter with you?
  
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- MrSunshine
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:12pm
  Archon, read the amendment again dum@ss! I don’t give a rats rear about a theocracy. I’m just sick of you God haters flapping you gums about “seperation of church and state”. If congress was trying to establish Christianity as a state religion, you’d have a point. However the only valid point you narrow minded haters have is the one on top of your heads!
  
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- Pontiac
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:21pm
  I think it would be in everyone’s best interest if government got out of marriage altogether and simply recognized and enforced legal contracts.
  
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- MrSunshine
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:27pm
  C’mon Philly, are you that much of a simpleton that you can’t understand a simple paragraphh (long sentence). Let’s make it even simpler for you: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” Where’s the part about seperation of church and state? Where is the language forbidding God/relgion from being displayed in public spaces? You ever so enlightened ones have stretched that statement to mean that there should be no mention of God anywhere but in a church. The name of God offends you. The fact that billions of people belive in God offends you. Get over it yourselves skippy!
  
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- TeresaJ
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:34pm
  Because, besides the fact that homosexuals have no natural claim to marriage (an instution instated to continue the family line), we cannot afford to keep paying for the indiscretions of the immoral. Homosexual acts are unsanitary, and definitely not something that should be promoted or condoned.
  To be fair, acts of fornication also fit into this, which is why abstinance is the only way.
  
  Immoral people expect us to pay for jails, birth control, abortions, welfare for the lazy and irresponsible, etc. Then they turn around and try to tell us we cannot worship God were we wish (it “offends” them), we are racist, sexist, etc. Homosexual lobbyists, of whom I clearly remember stating were not going to go after our children, are going after schools and parents to indoctrinate their children in the name of “diversity” and “individualism,” so that those children can also grow up to be the self-serving and irresponsible problems of our society, rather than solutions.
  
  We cannot afford to continue this path.
  
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- phillyatheist
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:40pm
  MRSUNSHINE – the first amendment also includes free speech. yet the courts have had to interpret that rather simple idea over and over. only a simpleton would read “or abridging the freedom of speech,” to be a cut and dried declarative statement that needs no further interpretation. you’re doing the same thing with the Establishment Clause. courts have interpreted, and reinterpreted it to mean that there is a Separation of Church/State that is fundamental in the Constitution. our “living” Constitution allows for updates and clarifications that are natural as the world changes, or when new issues pop up that the Founders never dreamed of.
  
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- phillyatheist
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:43pm
  TERESA – i almost don’t want to respond to you – quite frankly you scare me – but i needed to find out what you mean by this:
  
  “Homosexual acts are unsanitary”
  
  is that true for lesbians? btw, straight people engage in “unsanitary” sexual acts as well. are you for outlawing sodomy for straight couples? or are you just a religious twit who doesn’t think before she types?
  
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- TeresaJ
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:49pm
  I never said I was for outlawing sodomy. But for the name calling, which I did not extend to you, I will end this conversation now. I have no problem with a civil debate, but I will not waste my time with insults.
  
  Good day. :)
  
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- phillyatheist
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:54pm
  TERESA – you should still clarify your remarks. did you not mean the part about it being unsanitary? i don’t think you’re capable of discussing this intelligently, which is why you’re signing off. see ya.
  
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- Female
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 3:10pm
  Nope, I heartily disagree with LGBT because I believe it is disgusting (BF, CL, and toys), against the Laws of Nature, unproductive because it can’t reproduce, physiological abuse to the body, a health hazard, disease spreader, unhygenic, steeped in abuse, violence, mental health problems, crime, child abuse, murder, suicide, early death age; upside down, backwards, redundate, and just stupid.
  
  A lot of people agree with me on the above stated secular, human reasons. We have been just shamed into silence by the constant verbal abuse and perpetual lies of love (it is lust and sex), born different, this way (so a birth defect or abnormality; sex is a behavior,also listed as a potentially bad habit by psychology, proven families w/alcohol/drugs/sexual perversions tend to show-up in several generations just like intelligence/talent/atheletics), or minority status like blacks and slavery (please how arrogant and insulting to those whose families have true generationally suffered : the violent reaction of doers/supporters, the illusions/delusions/perversions promoted by media, and cowardice of others, especially, greedy politicians.
  
  No more for me…I will not appeal based on GOD, religion, or faith (Leviticus 18 and Romans 1 plus anything on adultery, fornication, sexual immorality) because the topic is just like talking about the habits of dog humping and justifying it as a good thing. Yeah, the dog likes it, but almost everybody else is just grossed out.
  
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- phillyatheist
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 3:20pm
  FEMALE – there are a lot of things i find disgusting – fat people having sex, old people having sex, ugly people having sex – so what? you don’t like lesbians, don’t be one. but hey, at least you admit your bigotry.
  
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- TeresaJ
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 3:45pm
  <,<
  
  Philly, you asked how this is affecting anyone. I just listed several ways immorality is affecting everyone. You chose to ignore that completely and asked about lesbianism being unsanitary, which was completely irrelevent to the point I was making. Which tells me you have no interest in learning any truth or making descisions that affect the good of the country as a whole.
  
  If someone does their thing and it affects no one, I've never had a problem with that. Most people do not. That is why domestic partnerships had a good deal of support before this become such a big deal. But if you give an inch, someone always takes a mile. It's always best to keep things simple. Already in California, there is a dispute over listing more than two people as "parents" in a same-sex adoption case. Craziness. And more money on the taxpayers.
  
  Our constitution will not work with an immoral people, and we are seeing the results.
  
  …we have no government, armed with power, capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
  
  -John Adams
  
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- Female
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 4:28pm
  PA,
  
  I listed 17 reasons only one was disgust (the weakest). whereas, you chose not to address them. Ultimately, you resort to the cheapest of all responses: “you don’t like lesbians, don’t be one. but hey, at least you admit your bigotry”. I don’t like ALL perverse sexual activities not just lesbians including: incest, child molesting, homosexuality, beastiality and relationships such as LGBT. My point was I really am not alone. As a society, we need to stand against the constant ebbing away through lies and name calling, (as you did with bigotry, which is false because although I have a very strong opinion it is based on a thorough study of the matter whereas, I have found over-whelming evidence especially, medical to support my opinion).:
  
  Reasons
  18. Cost of healthcare passed on to society.
  19. Destructive to the parentage requirements of children for XX (mom) and XY (dad) for modeling, instructing, and understanding.
  
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- Female
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 11:12pm
  PA,
  
  For Teresa:
  
  There are several activities which are engaged in primarily by homosexuals but are also, participated in by heterosexuals which are “unsanitary”, detrimental to health by being in contact with feces and plastic toys…why not outlaw them? Our nation protects owls and spiders, why not protect rectums and cervixes from misuse and disease?
  
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darkeningskies
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:39pm
Be careful what you wish for liberals

To get the world you so brazenly want, means that the corruptness and decay that results will be fatally destructive

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darkeningskies
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:36pm
well then ……… guess you are going to have to stop earning and spending fiat dollars

‘In God We Trust’

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- phillyatheist
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:45pm
  God appears nowhere on my ATM card. the future is now!
  
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- The Third Archon
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:49pm
  Or we could take that ******** off since it was added in the 1950′s–HARDLY a hallowed tradition. In fact, it supplanted the ORIGINAL, and much OLDER, U.S. national motto “E pluribus unum,” now isn’t THAT ironic that it’s the bible-thumping Christians hollering about the necessity of slavish devotion to “tradition” that are the ones CHANGING arguable the MOST hallowed and ancient American symbols and traditions–LOL.
  
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spickard2101
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:35pm
These are not atheist activists… they are atheist extremists.

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- phillyatheist
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:46pm
  so they really really really really don’t believe in God? gotcha.
  
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jackact
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:34pm
Has anyone noticed that atheism consistently rears its ugly head shortly before every POTUS election?
They must feel ‘left out’.
Rightly so.

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- The Third Archon
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:01pm
  We’re 11-16% of the U.S. population and rapidly cutting into Christians’ market share ;)
  
  Moreover, statistical practice would suggest numbers of actual U.S. atheists is under-reported given that for MOST of America’s existence, they were a small and scattered enough minority to be relatively isolated from one another, so many had no one else with similar beliefs with which to confer, and thus many kept their belief private. Even though that’s no longer the case in many places, a substantial enough portion of the American theist population remain ignorant and obnoxious enough that many atheists prefer to remain silent in their communities. These representational distortions are a product of the pressure to conform–whomever is in the majority at any given time exerts a pressure for others to either join the majority or at least claim to be party of it, stronger the larger the majority and also if it is of a proselytizing nature; but even if it weren’t attempting to spread agreement with its beliefs, the majority view, simply through the unconscious peer pressure, i.e. social benefits of being identified with the majority, would exert some influence. So people have an incentive to report to be Christians, when they really don’t believe in Christianity, and to not report to be non-Christians when they do believe in something alternative to Christianity–so long as Christianity is, or is BELIEVED, to be the majority view.
  
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- MrSunshine
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 4:21pm
  Archon, it sounds like your doing a bit of proselytizing yourself. Do Christian symbols hurt your eyes? Does the word of God hurt your ears? Are you really offended by a being that you do not believe in? I don’t believe in bigfoot. Nobody’s proven its existence to me (sound familiar?). I just don’t care! I’m certainly not going to get into an argument with somebody that does. If one wants to spend his or her time, money and energy tracking bigfoot, then so be it. I’m not going to ridicule them for beliving in their “hairy fairy” or trying to make them feel like they’re somehow insignificant because my opinion is superior or I’m more enlightened. Live and let live, right?
  
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- DeavonReye
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:33pm
  I know of no Bigfootists who have enough pull to make laws that affect other’s happiness.
  
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Gregb
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:29pm
so, what they are saying is that they are against sharia law?

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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:37pm
  You ever notice that these wimps seem to target the pacifist religion? Maybe they should take their message to Egypt or Pakistan so we can see them decapitated on YouTube.
  
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- phillyatheist
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:47pm
  ROTH – oddly i’ve never seen a Muslim billboard with which to counter message. have you?
  
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- MrSunshine
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:32pm
  Philly, you ever see any of the videos of Muslims cutting off the head of Danny Pearl or any of the other despicable acts perpetrated by this “religion”? Do you really think they need a billboard to inflame?
  
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- phillyatheist
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 3:04pm
  MRSUNSHINE – does that happen in America? i’m well aware of what Muslim fanatics have done and what they are capable of. my point is that Islam doesn’t get criticized in America because they aren’t doing anything here to piss off secularists. they don’t prosthletize, don’t erect billboards, don’t try to make religious laws, and don’t cut heads off of their fellow Americans. were they to start doing any of those things you’d hear a lot more from Atheists about Islam.
  
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- MrSunshine
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 4:09pm
  Ok Philly, here’s the big question. Pat’s or Geno’s? And don’t say Pudges!
  
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- dblaess
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 4:31pm
  @phillyatheist
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 3:04pm
  MRSUNSHINE – does that happen in America?….
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  I seem to remember an Islam father “honor killing” his daughter in Arizona and Georgia. There most likely are more cases, but the MSM doesn’t report them, so you would not be aware. Good excuse, I didn’t know because it was not reported or I would have surely spoken up.
  
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CWPrequired
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:24pm
There they go trying to rewrite the 1st Amendment again. I still can’t find “freedom FROM religion”.

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- Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:39pm
  As a Christian I agree with this ad in principle. Marriage is between God, one man, and one women. The gov. should not be involved. Any oath or pledge is before God and the gov. should not be a part of the agreement. Instead of a man, women, and God, we have a 4 party contract where the gov. is involved. Love should never include the gov. as a ruling party. It’s not in the Bible. The Church for Christians was meant to handle disputes not the gov. The Gov. is a perversion to marriage.
  This goes beyond marriage. We have pastors as CEO’s of 501C3 nonprofit church corporations. God is no longer the headship of the church but the gov. and IRS. Christians are asleep at the wheel. Pastors are no longer shepherds, but CEO’s.
  
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Mr. Oshawott
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:22pm
I have one solution to these polarizing issues of marriage and religion: get the government out of marriage entirely and let people marry who they want to marry and let the churches choose what kind of marriage they want to perform. If two consenting adults of the same gender want to marry one another, why should it matter to me if their decision of marriage isn’t interfering with my rights in any way?

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- Cavallo
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:59pm
  @mr oshawott, That’s not what the gay “rights” people want. They want to use government, and the force that government can bring to bear, to force people to accept their way of life. If they could get away with it they would use the government to force churches to marry them, they would force ministers and preachers to be licensed and qualified by the State. These people are fascist/marxists/statists, atheism is just a vehicle to advance their autocratic centralized controlled tyranny.
  
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- Taquoshi
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:00pm
  Unfortunately, the non-believers often try to force the issue under “accomodation” or “equal access” laws.
  
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- ChrisDiamond
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:52pm
  CAVALLO:
  So how are the gays any different than you, who want to use the government to force your way of life on them? Your hypocrisy is so glaring that you have become blinded to it, and by it. And you throw out the monicker of ‘statists’ on these people (and undoubtedly many if not most of them are), but you fail to see your reliance on the state to be your bully, too. The state should have nothing to do with marriage, and there shouldn’t be laws regarding marriage anyway. It is little more than a contract between people about how they will build a life together. Gay marriage does NOTHING to infringe on your natural rights, and it is laughably pathetic to see so many ‘small gov conservatives’ advocate so heavily for the FEDGOV to deny liberty to people who do not agree with them. So be honest: you’re perfectly fine with big gov if big gov keeps them homos from getting married, right? If it keeps people from smoking pot? If it keeps killing Muslims overseas to ensure your ‘safety’, right? If it keeps robbing us & our kids, grandkids & great grandkids to transfer money to the corporations & banks, eliminate competition in the market place, force vaccinations on us, genetically modified foods, prescription drugs… wake the eff up, dude. Big picture is, any support of the state is a stand AGAINST liberty, not for it. But you don’t respect liberty, and it’s evident because you would gladly use the state to deny liberty to those who disagree with you.
  
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jackact
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:16pm
Atheists, the NEW democrats.
How pathetic.

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Sharon Rose
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:14pm
How about freedom from atheists?

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- phillyatheist
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:49pm
  what does that even mean?
  
  anyhoo, for all you know you have Atheist neighbors or family members. you probably do.
  
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- The Third Archon
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:07pm
  Well–that’s easy; just kill yourself.
  
  If you are right, you go to heaven–no atheists.
  If you are wrong, you’re dead–no atheists.
  
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- phillyatheist
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 2:12pm
  THIRD – i like it, but i think that they don’t get into heaven if they commit suicide. may have to stage a fake murder of him/her self. but since God is all knowing he’d see through the ruse. seems like they’re stuck here.
  
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IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:14pm
God is with us at all times whether others try to deny it or not. God Bless America… Pray for Peace

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Cavallo
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:06pm
Missouri has a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman. Personally I think government should be completely out of the marriage business. Allow private institutions to define how they want to define marriage. Have government only concerned with the civil contractual agreement in the unionization of financial and material assets. The left won’t like that idea either because it would not be able to use government force their definition of marriage on private institutions either.

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- kimbolimbo
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 3:53pm
  As an atheist and person who believes in social liberalness, I completely agree with you. Let’s just all have “civil unions” under the law. Let’s allow churches to decide for themselves who they will and will not marry but let’s not be giving people special liberties because of what one certain church or churches decide. We should all be equal under the law regardless of faith or sexual preferences.
  
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Chuck7884
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:05pm
Not sure how weddings came to be.always assumed it comes from the church not the State.The marriage certificates started when? the why is easy enough the fee is to make and store a record as proof of said arrangement so as to stop polygamy and proof of inheritance in a court of law (proof of transfer of ownership in case of death of spouse) that being said the church should be the one responsible for the meaning of marriage.

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- hi
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:18pm
  I”m find with the government not recognizing marriage and only churches. Then my taxes will go down when there is no marriage penalty tax.
  
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:04pm
Which church exactly is married to the state? The idiot named like 4. “establishment of religion” is what I believe the Constitution says. Well, since there are all of these completely different religions (including Judaism and Islam) that recognizes marriage to be 1 man and 1 woman. I would argue the government is not establishing a religion.

Oh by the way, “Thou shalt not kill” is also in the Bible. Must be a wacko religious law. Let’s legalize murder.

Dunderheads…..

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cessna152
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:03pm
Keep it up Atheists, your the best advertising Christians have!

BTW, I’m sure you realize it’s to keep GOVERNMENT out of religion not religion out of government. Anyway, keep it up…you’re our best advertiser.

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- Cavallo
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:25pm
  Christianity thrives best when persecuted.
  
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Gonzo
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:00pm
Too bad there are no undiscovered “New Worlds” left on our globe. I could be packed and ready to go in about an hour. If it wouldn’t be so sad, it would be fun to watch the ragged remnants of this once great country implode with all the Christians and capitalists gone.

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- drphil69
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:10pm
  You will get to watch it implode… but there is nowhere for us to go, so my advice, stock up on your favorite adult beverages, and enjoy watching the libs kill each other over scraps of food on the evening news!!
  
  Oh, if you live in a city, GET OUT NOW!! Except for you libs… don’t worry, I’m just a right wing nut job… everything is fine, there will be no food or energy shortages or rioting or any of that… stay in the big cities where you will be safe!! (I actually do mean that… cause if you come out to God’s country expecting to TAKE… you will likely be met with rifle fire from 200 yards out. Sorry, your 9mm is useless out here, so stay in the city where you will have a fighting chance..)
  
  ;-)
  
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- hi
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:17pm
  I will go too without hesitation.
  
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- 2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:27pm
  There might be some extra room on Farrakhan’s mother ship circling the Earth, although I’m not sure where it is going if it ever leaves.
  
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- Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:42pm
  There is a discovered new home beyond this planet, but many chose to die lost. The Kingdom of God. So beautiful the Bible states “eye hath not seen nor ear heard the things that are prepared for them that love Him” in writing about heaven. How great will that be?
  
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- 65Mustang
  Posted on September 27, 2012 at 1:43pm
  Yes, yes, I agree wholeheartedly…let them build a country on the bedrock of crime, greed, corruption and other sinful facets of life that the left promotes.
  
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AvengerK
Posted on September 27, 2012 at 12:52pm
ah yeah…this one willl work for sure.

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