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Atheists Sue Over 10 Commandments Display at PA Middle School & Demand it Not Be Moved to Private Church Property

Sep. 28, 2012 5:46pm Billy Hallowell

The Ten Commandments are under fire, once again, as the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF), a church-state separatist group, is taking yet another school system to court. This time, it’s the Connellsville Area School District in Connellsville, Pennsylvania, that has caught the ire of secularists who are suing to have a display featuring the biblical code of conduct taken down.

The lawsuit, which the FFRF filed on Thursday in U.S. District Court in Pittsburgh, was waged on behalf of an unnamed parent and child (referred to as Doe 4 and Doe 5). Doe 4 is purportedly a student at the junior high school.

FFRF Suing Connellsville Area School District Over 10 Commandments

Photo Credit: Freedom From Religion Foundation

The focus of the complaint is a six-foot stone monument that is displayed at the Connellsville Junior High School. According to the FFRF and its clients, the structure violates the First Amendment, so they are asking the court to order that it be removed from the school’s property.

The FFRF offers more about the monument and the case at hand:

The monument, which is between 5 and 6 feet tall, is near the main entrance by the Junior High auditorium. When the Fraternal Order of Eagles donated the monument in 1957, the building was the high school.

The complaint states that the continued presence of the Ten Commandments on district property is an unconstitutional advancement and endorsement of religion. The complaint also notes that the display “lacks any secular purpose,” citing Stone v. Graham, a 1980 Supreme Court decision which ruled the Ten Commandments may not be posted in public school classrooms, because “The pre-eminent purpose” for doing so “is plainly religious in nature.”

The Post-Gazette adds even more about the ongoing debate over the symbol:

The foundation and district had been in talks that led to a tentative decision to remove the monument to the grounds of a nearby church. But the district put that action on hold Sept. 12 when members of the public demanded that the monument be retained.

According to the lawsuit in U.S. District Court, an unidentified district student who is non-religious and the student’s unidentified parent who is an atheist felt excluded because of the monument’s presence on school grounds.

However, as WPXI.com notes, they’re also asking that it not be allowed to be placed at a nearby church. Nearby Connellsville Church of God has become a focus of the debate due to its location, which would still place the symbol in view of students attending the school.

According to Pittsburgh attorney Marcus B. Schneider, who is working with the FFRF on the case, students who play athletics on the school’s fields “cannot avoid” the Ten Commandments.

While the school district made previous attempts to cover up the monument, the efforts were unsuccessful and atheists decided to take to the courts to solve the matter.

(H/T: WPXI)

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Comments (328)

F_This
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:45pm
You don’t hear Atheists complaining on payday. They accept their paychecks with in God We Trust written on them. If I were their boss I would pay them with some cheese and wine, cause that’s all they do is cry like babies.

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- The Third Archon
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:53pm
  Why would they complain?
  a) The phrase ins’t on checks (or electronic direct deposit)
  b) The phrase has been on our money for a MINORITY of our country’s history, by far–our historical traditions are actually on the SECULARISTS’ side with regard to this phrase.
  
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- NHwinter
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:14pm
  One child complains??? When can Christians counter sue? Its time to fight back with protests and signs all over the community with the 10 Commandments on them. When you remove basic morals, the school and community goes down hill quickly. We need to stand up for our rights and not let one child change everything. Enough.
  
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- djpeyton21
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:18pm
  I beg to differ.
  http://www.tldm.org/news6/presidents.htm
  http://www.wallbuilders.com/libissuesarticles.asp?id=100
  http://www.usachristianministries.com/us-history-quotes-about-god-and-the-bible/
  You might want to check up on your history. Although I wouldn’t use your secular textbooks. They appear to have missing pieces.
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:29pm
  And how hard would you cry if it were the Koran posted at that school? There wouldn’t be lawsuits. It riots and you know it. You allow this, than when Muslims grab the majority, you will be fine with Islamic symbols at our public schools and court houses, right? Republic of the United States, protecting the minorities from the mob rule of the majority since 1776.
  
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- ashestoashes
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:42pm
  At the end of the millenial reign..the dead in Christ will be resurrected and joined with their bodies for the White Throne Judgemnet..and then they will be cast into hell with Satan..and will burn forever..their worm will never die..now that is scary..
  
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- KevINtampa
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 8:11pm
  @DJ
  
  http://www.usachristianministries.com/us-history-quotes-about-god-and-the-bible/
  
  Great list of quotes by our founders!
  
  I especially like:
  
  Congress printed a Bible for America and said:
  
  “The United States in Congress assembled … recommend this edition of the Bible to the inhabitants of the United States … a neat edition of the Holy Scriptures for the use of schools.”
  - United States Congress 1782
  
  Congress passed this resolution:
  
  “The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.”
  - United States Congress 1782
  
  It is clear our founder’s intent was that separation of church and state meant that the state couldn’t use government influence or coercion against any church or belief, not that religion shouldn’t be practiced in the public square. Actually, they intended for religion to be a mainstay in the public square.
  
  How did we get to be a Godless country? The following lecture holds the key:
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fQoGMtE0EY
  
  With out the people’s faith in God the American system, freedom itself, can not exist. It was the single most important tenet for the American experiment to succeed. All other tenets were secondary.
  
  We have been systematically demoralized for generations and I fear the crisis that will bring about the normalization phase is months if not weeks away. The useful idiots have enslaved us all.
  
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- SacredHonor1776
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 8:16pm
  “The phrase has been on our money for a MINORITY of our country’s history, by far”
  
  Actually technically it has been on coinage for over half of the USA’s history (since about 1863 or 1864). It goes back to the Republicans and North winning the Civil War which they believed to be God’s divine hand. So technically it has been on ‘money’ for the MAJORITY of the country’s history, just not from the BEGINNING of USA’s history.
  
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- djpeyton21
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 8:52pm
  Kevin- absolutely. Our Founders wanted a nation that was free from government intrusion into religion. The phrase most secularists tend to ignore is , “nor shall it prohibit the free exercise thereof,” when quoting the 1st Amendment. Our Founders were clearly religious and expected religion, and Christianity in particular, for being the cornerstone upon which all else rested. I think it was Lenin or some other Commie that said if you attack America’s moral structure, you can take her out from within.
  
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- djpeyton21
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 8:56pm
  Kevin- My last post referenced Stalin not Lenin.
  http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/Josef.Stalin.Quote.CC49
  
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- KevINtampa
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 10:06pm
  @DJ
  
  Seriously, when you have the time:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fQoGMtE0EY
  
  and to know who this man was, as to establish his credibility:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnf0I2dQ0i0
  
  If you watch, and truly grasp, both of those videos, you will understand why everything seems to be turned upside down. Sun Tzu truly was a brilliant mind.
  
  Every American should be trained on:
  http://www.amazon.com/Art-War-Sun-Tzu/dp/0195014766
  
  Otherwise, like we all have been, we are susceptible to the techniques of noncombat warfare. The internet is filled with whack jobs, and I realize that trying to spread this message is crazy. But, after you watch it you will realize how we have become who we are as a nation.
  
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- Exrepublisheep
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 10:09pm
  @AMERICAN SOLDIER (SEPARATED). Dead on. If people had to walk under signs with sayings about sharia law in a courtroom they would see what a problem religious materials can be for people of other faiths.
  
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- djpeyton21
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 10:46pm
  Thank you Kevin. I’ll check them out when I have the time. I’m actually on vacation at the moment lol.
  
  Soldier and Sheep- Well thank God we’re not a theocracy like Islam. You seem to be confusing Christianity with the Catholic Church and its legalistic practices. If you actually go through the New Testament and look at early church history, you’ll find that Christianity was not meant to be a human governmental authority. The Kingdom of God is not of this world. No, early Christianity instead “took captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ”(2 Corinthians 10:5) through simple rhetoric. That is how it is meant to be here in this nation. Our Founders intended for Christianity to make an impact in America, but as it was Biblically through culture ad the public arena, not as a theocracy.
  
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- RRFlyer
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 9:25am
  DJPEYTON21. If you have something to say, Say it. Don’t post stupid links. Tell your point in your own words. I’m not going to look up those things. This is a place to comment, not to send people searching for something unrelated to the story.
  I Really don’t think links belong here.
  
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- djpeyton21
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:02am
  I did say what I wanted to say: you’re wrong that history is secular. I’m unable to give you a full book on the matter, due to space limitations, so I provided merely three links. If you can’t take the time to simply peruse them, I don’t know why you’re wasting your time here.
  
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- Pontiac
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:41am
  If you like christian propaganda being pushed by government then you shouldn’t mind Islamic or atheist propaganda pushed by government. Freedom is a two way street, either you’re prepared to accept others have the same liberty to express their beliefs equally on public property or you are a bigot. Simple as that.
  
  “We in the United States, above all, must remember that lesson, for we were founded as a nation of openness to people of all beliefs. And so we must remain. Our very unity has been strengthened by our pluralism. We establish no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are,and must remain, separate. All are free to believe or not believe, all are free to practice a faith or not, and those who believe are free, and should be free, to speak of and act on their belief.
  At the same time that our Constitution prohibits state establishment of religion, it protects the free exercise of all religions. And walking this fine line requires government to be strictly neutral.” -Ronald Reagan 10-26-1984
  
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- djpeyton21
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:44am
  And because you’ve decided not to look at them, you’re ignorant at the fact that they are related to the matter at hand. You really have no place to say whether they’re related or not.
  
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- The Third Archon
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 12:07pm
  @WINTER
  Counter sue on what cause of action? You have to have a legal cause of action in order to sue–and if you DON’T when you file a lawsuit, then YOU can be sanctioned.
  
  @DJ
  So you cite a bunch of Christian historical revisionism at me, including the trash produced by David Barton a man with NO historical credentials to speak of, as your “counter evidence”? LOL. With the exception of coins, which also didn’t bear “In God We Trust” until 1864 (hardly our country’s founding), the addition of “In God We Trust” to our money and adoption of it as our national motto did not occur until 1957 and 1956 respectively.
  
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- paperpushermj
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 12:32pm
  @DJPEYTON21
  What you said above was spot on. I would like to add one thing if you don’t mind. Our Founding Fathers depended on a “Moral” self regulating population as the cornerstone for this Radical idea that a population could be Self Governing.
  
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- vonstro
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 12:34pm
  It’s long past time that someone put these secularists in their place. If your sniveling little 12 year old is so overcome with anxiety by this stone marker then she obviously needs professional help. It’s really sad that life becomes so overbearing for some people, knowing that their future wellbeing is going to be marginalized by life’s petty little nuisances. I feel sorry for this young girl and the hate her mother obviously must live with and pass along to her daughter.
  
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- Drewed1
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 1:04pm
  There is no such Freedom in America as “Freedom From Religion”! This is a group of humanists and anarchists that desire that any reminder of a God and Conscience is bad for their agenda of an open and immoral society, although they claim amorality! These evil satan serving demons from Hell will never be satisfied because they are wrong and as such, there is no reality or sacrifice by their opposition that would lead to their living in Peace with their Fellow3men, since Peace itself is a God Created ideology and His Son is known as the Prince of Peace!
  
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- djpeyton21
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 1:19pm
  Third Archon- Then show me the originals. That’s something Barton can do that you can’t even though he isn’t a credited historian. And the first item used to describe America’s relationship with God is actually in the Declaration of Independence in 1776. So where does that put God in the timeline of American history? You are not disputing the facts. Just making false subjective opinion.
  
  Pontiac- Very good! You’ve quoted another godly man for me. http://www.nytimes.com/1983/03/09/us/excerpts-from-president-s-speech-to-national-association-of-evangelicals.html
  I’ll quote him in this speech: “Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God acknowledged.”
  And I thought we already covered the fact that we’re not a theocracy like Islam. Islam couldn’t have made a land where all men are free to believe or not believe in God. Only a Christian offers you the *Freedom*. Emphasis on freedom.
  
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- djpeyton21
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 1:24pm
  Paper pusher- Thank you. I agree with you completely. Christianity is about the moral law being spread through culture and education not legalized where a particular denomination can persecute you for a differing belief.
  
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- The Gooch
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 2:04pm
  So hardcore atheists are just like other zealots? “My way or no way.”
  We are such a laughable joke in our tolerance of free speech.
  Hell, we aren’t progressing; we’re regressing. We’re collectively children ruled by our tantrums. I can’t stand this intolerant song and dance from secularists, conservatives, progressives or zealots.
  Grow the hell up. It ain’t all about your precious feelings. The world is not here to conform to you. Get along well with others, or be forever hung up on your next emotional breakdown.
  
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- Pontiac
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 4:12pm
  ►A school or court takes down a Ten Commandments plaque.
  Christians: THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! IT’S FREEDOM OF RELIGION NOT FREEDOM FROM RELIGION!!!
  
  ►A school or court hangs up a plaque with Koran Passages.
  Christians: THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! DON’T THEY KNOW THIS IS A CHRISTIAN NATION!!!
  
  Typical mouth-breathing neck-beard christian hypocrite logic… Government on any level has NO business picking, choosing, or promoting any religion. The absence of religious symbolism in government promotes nothing, enrages no one, and violates NO “individuals” liberties. Religious propaganda is NOT a function of government and nor is the government given constitutional authority to promote any religion.
  
  Also it is a good idea for “government” schools not to post material that conflicts with the US Constitution.
  http://atheism.about.com/od/tencommandments/a/americanlaw.htm
  http://atheism.about.com/od/tencommandments/a/americanlaw_2.htm
  
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- AnimalsAsLeaders
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 5:51pm
  …atheist groups are constantly fighting to get In god we trust removed from money.
  
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- colt1860
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 6:17pm
  “Minority of our history”?
  
  LMAO!
  
  George Washington issued an Order to his troops informing them of the Declaration of Independence, “The several brigades are to be drawn up this evening on their respective parades at six o’clock, when the Declaration of Congress, showing the grounds and reasons of this measure, is to be read with an audible voice. The General hopes that this important event will serve as a fresh incentive to every officer and soldier to act with fidelity and courage, as knowing that now the peace and safety of this country depends, under God, solely on the success of our arms.”
  
  Jefferson explained to Henry Lee, in a letter (May 8, 1825) that our Declaration “was intended to be an expression of the American mind, and to give to that expression the proper tone and spirit called for by the occasion.”
  
  John Quincy Adams, on July 4, 1837, issued the following Address, “Is it not that the Declaration of Independence first organized the social compact on the foundation of the Redeemer’s mission upon the earth? That it laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity?”
  
  Lincoln in his famous Gettysburg Address stated, “that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain – that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom – and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”
  
  I can’t wait until the FFRF sues our founders.
  
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- colt1860
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 6:35pm
  Well, our Declaration states, “And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.”
  
  We as nation, that is, through our “Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled”, publicly and unashamedly sought God’s protection.
  
  re·li·ance [ri-lahy-uhns] noun 1. confident or trustful dependence. 2. confidence. 3. something or someone relied on.
  
  Every President, that is, our highest Representative in Governmental Authority, since the days of Washington has sworn on the Christian Holy Bible during their constitutional Oath, and proclaimed “So help me God”, after their Oath.
  
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- deanied
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 9:05pm
  OMG…you are sooo RIGHT! I am sick & tired of our faith under attack by these LOONS! Start attacking Shari Law & the mosques for Gods sake! THAT is the REAL threat!! (sorry, spelling is bad when I get upset!)
  
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- bravjim
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:08pm
  Third Archon, try again homer. The founding fathers regularly called for humiliation and fasting, incuding on the very same day that the wording for the 1st amendment was finalized. They routinely spoke out promoting religion, and instituted state colleges as well as Ivy League schools with the sole purpose of training students in religion, reading writing, and the sciences. Idiots like you keep trying to claim that they didn’t promote religion, yet that is exactly what they did. But that is okay, because there are those of us following right behind you to correct your lies, and you still get the opportunity, no matter how weak your attempt is, to please your father, the father of all lies.
  
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- ModerationIsBest
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:27pm
  Our founders also wrote about freedom, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness……while owning other human beings.
  
  So, despite being the framers of the Constitution, they were doing unconstitutional things.
  
  Besides, what’s the point? I don’t dictate that some of the founders were Christians, some were deists and some were free thinkers.
  
  The problem comes in when you people want to use the Bible as law and think that America should be rule by the Bible.
  
  This isn’t a Christian nation.
  
  This is a nation of people with a variety of viewpoints on life, but our founders came together and decided that we can’t have a society that is governed by religion.
  
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- Jimmm
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:41pm
  In this (once) great nation we have freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. By placing this on school grounds the government is forcing NOBODY to believe in or practice any religion. THAT is what the establishment clause is about. Is anyone being forced to pray or practice any religion? NO. If you don’t like the ten commandments LOOK THE OTHER WAY! You aren’t being forced to do ANYTHING! If I was able to sue over every thing I didn’t want to SEE I’d spend my life in court. Get a life.
  
  On what grounds do they feel they can stop the monument from being displayed on the mentioned church grounds? There is NO legal basis for their argument.
  
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- colt1860
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:07pm
  @Moderation LOL. You’re all over the place.
  
  “Our founders also wrote about freedom, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness……while owning other human beings.”
  
  That right there shows how ignorant you are. MANY of our founders were AGAINST slavery. The institution of slavery was only made constitutional as a COMPROMISE with the southern states so that they could JOIN THE UNION. Jefferson himself added a clause in the Declaration decrying the practice of slavery, but it was taken out before the final draft. The most important thing during that time was UNITY, and causing division among the states would do us greater harm.
  
  “So, despite being the framers of the Constitution, they were doing unconstitutional things.”
  
  The Constitution itself made slavery LEGAL. Your illogical conclusions are pathetic. It took an Ammendment to reverse that, for even judges HAD TO support OUR constitution.
  
  “Besides, what’s the point? I don’t dictate that some of the founders were Christians, some were deists and some were free thinkers.”
  
  LMAO!
  
  “The problem comes in when you people want to use the Bible as law and think that America should be rule by the Bible.”
  
  MY rights come from God, not man. I don’t want other men to rule over me.
  
  This was, is and ever shall be a Christian nation.
  
  The VA Bill of Rights, written by Jefferson and Mason, states, “it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian forbearance, love, and charity, towards each oth
  
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- ModerationIsBest
  Posted on September 30, 2012 at 11:10am
  @COLT1860
  
  You are a riot!
  
  You write about freedom, liberty, life and then “compromise” on something like slavery?
  
  Yes, Jefferson was SO against slavery, that he had many of them and chose not to free them.
  
  You religious nuts will do anything to try to justify your irrational claims.
  
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- tipical
  Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:44pm
  Oh! Moses what you have started? When the first tablets were broken in anger over pagan rituals, you went back to God and prayed for a new “TEN COMMANDMENTS”. They wand to banish the tablets because they are so powerful and can provoke atheist too rethink about the evil in this world. Their theory that the school system should leave the most important basis of our legal system out of out teaching is a lesson for them. When the base is removed the rest will crumble to the ground. Let them stand in a basket and pick themselves up.
  
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- Emmasue
  Posted on September 30, 2012 at 2:30pm
  The answer is all too obvious and cheaper than a lawsuit. The atheist child feels left out? Put a blank monument beside the one with the Ten Commandments.
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on September 30, 2012 at 3:06pm
  One day, people will look back on abortion and entitlement programs with the same disgust as we do slavery today. You can’t force your modern views on people of the past, but its a pretty good deflection, so good effort.
  
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- Pontiac
  Posted on September 30, 2012 at 3:29pm
  @tipical
  [They wand to banish the tablets because they are so powerful and can provoke atheist too rethink about the evil in this world.]
  You have your home, and you have your church. By all means use them. Stop using government as your propaganda machine.
  
  [Their theory that the school system should leave the most important basis of our legal system out of out teaching is a lesson for them]
  In cased you missed it.
  http://atheism.about.com/od/tencommandments/a/americanlaw.htm
  http://atheism.about.com/od/tencommandments/a/americanlaw_2.htm
  
  @Emmasue
  [Put a blank monument beside the one with the Ten Commandments.]
  I can think of a lot better things to put next to your US Constitution hating commandments.
  
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- mrmo
  Posted on September 30, 2012 at 4:33pm
  What really gets me is how when we hear theese storys it’s always one or two people who have a problem, when hundreds do not. And thousands have had no problem over the years.. Do the rite thing for all. Leave the piece where it is, eather send the kids to a nother school in the area or tell the parents to home school their GOD hateing kids. That way they can make sure their little darlings will be safe form GOD and the rest of the people can rejoice in him if they want to…
  
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- Pontiac
  Posted on September 30, 2012 at 8:01pm
  @mrmo
  [theese / eather / a nother]
  How about you take your “little darlings” and throw their butts in a “christian” school or home school them so they’ll be safe from all those heathens, science, knowledge, and proof reading. Our government is not a theocracy! It is not the governments obligation or right to be displaying the 10 commandments let alone display a pi** poor abridged version of the ten commandments. You know, Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s slaves? Yeah, you christians seem to conveniently forget the full translation of that one or attempt to hide with poor translations.
  
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- colt1860
  Posted on September 30, 2012 at 8:29pm
  @ModerationIsBest LOL. Keep showing your ignorance. Washington, like Jefferson, wanted to free their slaves but the laws in Virginia made impossible for them to do so.
  
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repairsea
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:42pm
The extremist athiests are hateful people. Why is anyone listening to them?

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- No1uknow
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:45pm
  Again, What happened to the majority Rules in this country? We get a couple of whakos’ and they can go to court and sue over our 80% majority? We need to counter-sue and bury them.
  
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- U.N.hater
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:05pm
  @NO1: we are a republic not a democracy. This country is set up to protect everyones rights. The founding fathers hated democracy because MOB RULES. This is an assault on our constitution by radicals from these athiest idiots to the president.
  
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- Marine25
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:05pm
  The Constitution and Bill of Rights is what happened to majority rule.
  80% may want the commandments on property that belongs to 100% of the people.
  Too bad. This is America.
  What will you say when 80% want to collect all the guns?
  Majority rule?
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:32pm
  Exactly. If 51% want to turn America over to Shuria law, your fine right. Majority rules!!! Had we followed the constitution since the beginning, we wouldnt have the entitlement problems we have.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 10:19pm
  U.N.hater
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:05pm
  @NO1: we are a republic not a democracy. This country is set up to protect everyones rights. The founding fathers hated democracy because MOB RULES. This is an assault on our constitution by radicals from these athiest idiots to the president.
  ______________________
  So close, the assualt on the Constitution is by radicals or athiests, it is by Christians the beleive they can violate the establishment clause, that their religion ranks above all others and is above the Constitution.
  
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- DYNA
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 1:05am
  @Marine25
  
  Freedom “of “, not “from”. Then we can keep our Bibles and our guns.
  Apart from the One and only true living God you wouldn’t have the power to keep your guns anyway.
  That is when despots take over.
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:03am
  If I have the freedom OF religion, that implies I have the freedom to choose. Which also implies I have the freedom to NOT choose. That’s freedom. You’re version of freedom is that YOU are free to be Christian and post your christian symbols anywhere on public domain. Public domain paid for by tax dollars that even Atheists have to pay for. So by having the freedom of religion, freedom to CHOOSE my religious preference, then the word OF also implies that I have the freedom FROM religion.
  
  Fact is, you don’t know what you’re fighting for. You believe just because you are the majority today, that you will be the majority tomorrow. Or in 50 years. You want to set the precedence that the majority can dictate what religious symbols and prayers can be done at school, then what happens when Islam becomes the majority, of your city, of your state or even nationally? And then the majority decides instead of the 10 Commandments, Sharia law would be posted at every school and courthouse in America. Then what?
  
  THEN WHAT?
  
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smokeyridgerunner
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:40pm
Since the government is over the schools and I do not beleave what the big A beleaves I do not want to pay school. I am not being represented by my congressman or Senator I do not want to pay anymore. Let the big A pay!

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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:49pm
  How about this. Christians have put the 10 commandments at the court house and at public schools. For that, Atheist and other non-Christians pay ZERO taxes. I mean zero. No income (state or federal), no sales tax, no property tax, no social security, no payroll deductions and if you own a business, no business or corporate taxes, and they don’t have to collect sales tax. None.
  
  And reimbursement of all out taxes paid from the first penny we started earning a wage. Then Christians will own 100% of public property. No laws can be created to persecute Atheist or exclude them from using public facilities, we would just have to endure your religions symbols if we want free, government provided services.
  
  But if we’re not paying ANY taxes, I think we could afford to send out kids to a nice private school that respects secularism, it will become a highly demanded commodity in this version of the USA.
  
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- Melika
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 8:17pm
  American Soldier: So what you are saying is, you actually believe in God and he offends you and because of this, you want to prevent your fellow Americans from expressing their religious beliefs in any public setting or you want your money back for everything you use, like roads and such. Like it or not, our society is based on these principles. ALL of the successful societies today are based on these principles, it doesn’t really matter how they are expressed. These aren’t the tenets of Satanism, which promote unhealthy social and personal behavior. They do no harm to anyone, either Christian or Atheist, if they are followed.
  
  When the government puts up signs encouraging shelter pet adoption, are you going to argue that this constitutes not only an endorsement of this action, but a quiet and intimidating impetus to the action? Of course not, that is ridiculous. The same is true with these religious tenets. Only those who are interested will be swayed
  
  This monument wasn’t put up 5 or 10 years ago, it was put up in the 50′s when just about everyone believed in God. In essence, it has become a historical monument of the feelings & beliefs of that generation. Tearing it down is destroying a part of our history – it’s ugly, disgusting, and bigoted. It’s a shame my fellow atheists can’t practice what they preach.
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:09am
  @MELIKA
  
  I don’t know where you read the notion that I believe in God and that he offends me. I’m an Agnostic, so he could exist but I don’t believe he does. I’m not preventing you from expressing your religious believe as a private citizens. Yes, I want all my money back if you want to display religious symbols on public land. My argument against it is that I helped pay for all these things. People of non-Christian belief helped pay for those public schools and courthouses. Our republic is mean to be neutral.
  
  What happens when, say in your town, Satanist become a majority. And since they have the majority, they can dictate that they DO put the tenants of Satanism at YOUR public school that your kids go to. THEN WHAT?
  
  Pet adoption? You’re comparing religion, one of the most furiously debated and bloodied notions of all man kind (in terms of wars fought over religion) to pet adoption?! Do you seriously want a response to that?!?!
  
  What about the history of over 200 years before that monument was put there?
  
  Non-Christians pay NO TAXES! You want your monuments to the Christian God, make this happen!
  
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BiblePhD
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:37pm
But without the first 10 commandments, how will the children know it’s not good to kill or steal or let their slaves work on the Sabbath or not to covet their neighbor’s slaves…what is the world coming to?!

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- Wolfgang the Gray
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:43pm
  These FFRF people need to take a step back & think. If they get the 10-Commandments banned from the entire country like they want to, then that may lead to more people not obeying the 10-Commandments, specifically “Thou Shalt Not Kill.” The FFRF people may well become casualties of their own devices.
  
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- The Third Archon
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:55pm
  @BIBLE
  LOL–completely went over their heads.
  @WOLF
  By all means–let every theist in the country get themselves imprisoned.
  
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- tootsie roll
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:10pm
  A holes like you are opening their pie holes as Archie B said on TV
  
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- TeresaJ
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:13pm
  @PHD
  
  And what part of the Ten Commandments says anything about slaves?
  
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- tootsie roll
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:14pm
  Bible PHD what does that stand for phedile
  
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- TeresaJ
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:17pm
  Ah, you are refering to the “servant.”
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:36pm
  Wolfgang, eliminating the 10 commandment symbols from public property will not remove the laws making murder illegal. The fact you think it would makes me question your ability for critical thinking.
  
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- tootsie roll
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 8:02pm
  @aSHESTOASHES
  yOU ARE SOMEWHAT CONFUSED The dead IN Christ were not thrown into the lake of fire.
  Rev 20:4-6
  Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. ALSO I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for THE WORD OF GOD and for those who had NOT worshipped the beast or its image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or hands. THEY CAME TO LIFE and reigned with Chris tuntil the thousand years ended. this in the FIRST RESURRECTION ! THE REST rest of the dead did NOT come to life until the thousand years ended!
  OVER such (the believers who died for Jesus) No judgement or second resurrection AFTER THOUSAND YEARS WERE GIVEN. The white throne judgement comes after the thousand years and it is ffor NON believers ONLY, THEY ARE THROWN INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE WITH THE DEVIL AND FALSE PROPHET. PLEASE LEARN THE BIBLE BEFORE YOU MAKE A STATEMENT
  
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- memento03
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 3:45pm
  How about we get to the root of the Problem. In order for the 1st amendment to be fully followed, Government must remove itself from the Education System, and no Teachers should be getting paid by the government. Schools should all be completely independent.
  
  With Government in charge of Schools, they are in control of our Individual Consciousness’ in the fact that we become who we are as we learn. If the Secularists paid attention and stepped back and actually cared about all of the people of this great country, they would all want for the Government to get out of our Education system. At which point Schools choose independently what Religious or Non-Religious symbols to show.
  
  But if we did that, then there would be no need for the FFRF, they would have no purpose really. Getting the Government out of our Education System is what needs to be done to solve this whole issue for all sides.
  
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- colt1860
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:26pm
  @memento03 Exacto Mundo! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++1
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on September 30, 2012 at 3:08pm
  It just makes me sad that these ideas will never leave this forum.
  
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football lady
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:31pm
Last Ounce of Courage — a must see movie.

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football lady
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:30pm
These people have no life. They are bullies plain and simple.

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Tankertony
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:29pm
The whole ‘seperation of church and state’ charade is nothing but a tool of the godless left to attack America and its values. We who are educated know better.

Having the Ten Commandments posted anywhere is an establishment of nothing. It’s merely an expression of the values that the overwhelming majority of Americans share.

When they make us take down a cross, we need to have three sprout in its place. That will stop them.

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- No1uknow
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:43pm
  Good comment. What ever happened to The Majority Rules” in this country? How can one or two fools get away with trying to ruin our 80% way of life? And, why are we letting it happen?
  
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- The Third Archon
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:49pm
  You clearly have never been on the receiving end of instruments at the disposal of a court to ensure compliance with its judgments.
  
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ChildofJesus
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:27pm
D’you think this is bad? wait till churches are burned, arrests, impossible fines, losing jobs, put in prison. this is pretty light if we can forgive them this it’ll help later on.

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- OldGringo
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:41pm
  You can never appease EVIL…just look at Ahmadinejad, you must attack and defend the principles upon which this (our) nation is founded
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 10:24pm
  What a joke, no one is coming after churches. The issue is the seperation of Church and State, of not polluting PUBLIC BUILDINGS with religion. Keep your cross on PRIVATE PROPERTY.
  
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- dblaess
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:16am
  @encinom
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 10:24pm
  What a joke, no one is coming after churches. The issue is the seperation of Church and State, of not polluting PUBLIC BUILDINGS with religion. Keep your cross on PRIVATE PROPERTY.
  ———————————————————————————–
  If the following line in the article is true, then you are either misinformed or untruthful.
  However, as WPXI.com notes, they’re also asking that it not be allowed to be placed at a nearby church. Nearby Connellsville Church of God has become a focus of the debate due to its location, which would still place the symbol in view of students attending the school.
  
  According to Pittsburgh attorney Marcus B. Schneider, who is working with the FFRF on the case, students who play athletics on the school’s fields “cannot avoid” the Ten Commandments
  
  So yes, yes they are coming after the churches since religious symbols which can be seen even on private property can not be allowed under the first amendment. This is why the government is attempting to gain controll of as much private property as possible, so they either can remove Christian symbols or have public property close to private property so religious symbols still can not be allowed due to line of sight.
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 1:09pm
  ” they’re also asking that it not be allowed to be placed at a nearby church. ”
  
  The key phrase is ASK. I would be on the side of the Church and allow it to be moved to their private property. Just because they asked for it doesn’t mean it will be approved. I am on your side on that issue.
  
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Dirty Harry
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:25pm
If I had terminal cancer and no family, I’d travel the US finding these guys and beating their butts.

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- BiblePhD
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:41pm
  I think there might be a commandment against that somewhere..lemme check…oh wait…nope, apparently it’s Biblically fine to beat up someone who doesn’t share your beliefs (a lot like Islam in that regard I guess)…
  
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TH30PH1LUS
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:24pm
Apparently Atheists are all in favor of stealing, adultery, greed, direspecting parents, etc. You know, things that God says not to do in the 10 Commandments. This explains their voting record.

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- wingedwolf
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:36pm
  I could not have said it better, thanks.
  
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- Thornyrose13
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:45pm
  Are you also in support of the biblically ordained punishment for all of these crimes? If you keep the Commandments, perhaps you should post those up also.
  It really is not appropriate on public school grounds. What I find amazing is how many people who wish such displays in public do not in fact place post such things in their own yards. And if someone wanted to display quotes from the Quran, or the code of Hammurabi, or other “rules of conduct” from pagan sources, how many people would support that? Religion is the sphere of the individual, not the state.
  
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- TeresaJ
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:01pm
  @Thornyrose
  
  The Biblically ordained punishment is not posted on the 10 commandments, and if certain groups were not so determined to kick God out of schools and therefore make our children ignorant to the Bible, which is an historical and foundational part of American culture, they might know that mercy and grace are a part of the New Testament and wouldn’t be posting such ignorant statements about the punishments of the Old Testament.
  
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- TH30PH1LUS
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:37pm
  @ thornyrose13
  
  Please visit the Supreme Court building. The South Wall Frieze includes Menes, Hammurabi, Moses, Solomon, Lycurgus, Solon, Draco, Confucius, and Augustus.
  
  I suppose Atheists will want that destroyed also, along with quotes from the Bible found on several monuments at our nation’s capital.
  
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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:52pm
  There are many Theists that do those things, including yourself. If you deny this, you are committing a sin because you’re even lying to yourself.
  
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- TeresaJ
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 8:29pm
  @ American Soldier
  
  Christians never deny we sin. If we didn’t, we wouldn’t need salvation, would we?
  
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- encinom
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 10:27pm
  Atheists are just in favor of obeying the law, something Christians seem to have problems with, one of the laws is the Constitution, specially the Establishment Clause.
  
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Kenszen
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:18pm
Since they do not even want it on a church’s property, it is obvious that they just do not want any religion in the country at all.

“an unidentified district student who is non-religious and the student‘s unidentified parent who is an atheist felt excluded because of the monument’s presence on school grounds”
I would like to know how this could possibly make someone feel “excluded.”

The phrase “separation of church and state” was used by Jefferson in response to the Danbury Baptist Association to assure them that the government would NOT interfere with their right to worship. It was not meant in any other way, but of course, many contemporary parties have used this phrase in more creative interpretations for their own agenda.

The 1st Amendment states, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…” What many groups seem to ignore today is the part about “prohibiting the free exercise therof.” Also, saying “In God we trust” or “One nation, under God” in my opinion does not “establish” a state religion and therefore does not violate the 1st Amendment. Neither does allowing manger scenes on public property or displaying a cross in a city cemetery. This display of the majority populace’s *faith* is not establishing a *religion* as in the context of the Church of England.

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- Kenszen
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:25pm
  IMHO, those who use the phrase “separation of church and state” do so religiously. And it’s as if Jefferson was their secular pastor. But not so. For anyone who has made it to this point in my post can read on about the religious efforts by this “secular leader” of theirs:
  
  In 1774, while serving in the Virginia Assembly, Jefferson personally introduced a resolution calling for a Day of Fasting and Prayer.
  
  In 1779, as Governor of Virginia, Jefferson decreed a day of “Public and solemn thanksgiving and prayer to Almighty God.”
  
  As President, Jefferson signed bills that appropriated financial support for chaplains in Congress and the armed services.
  
  On March 4, 1805, President Jefferson offered “A National Prayer for Peace,” which petitioned:
  
  “Almighty God, Who has given us this good land for our heritage; We humbly beseech Thee that we may always prove ourselves a people mindful of Thy favor and glad to do Thy will. Bless our land with honorable ministry, sound learning, and pure manners.
  
  Save us from violence, discord, and confusion, from pride and arrogance, and from every evil way. Defend our liberties, and fashion into one united people the multitude brought hither out of many kindreds and tongues.
  
  Endow with Thy spirit of wisdom those to whom in Thy Name we entrust the authority of government, that there may be justice and peace at home, and that through obedience to Thy law, we may show forth Thy praise among the nations of the earth.
  
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- Kenszen
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:27pm
  In time of prosperity fill our hearts with thankfulness, and in the day of trouble, suffer not our trust in Thee to fail; all of which we ask through Jesus Christ our Lord, Amen.”
  
  So, the atheists can say what they want, but the truth of the matter is, the majority’s rights can be recognized and upheld without infringing upon the minority’s. However, in today’s society, the minority (be it atheists or homosexuals, etc.) seem to want to make their viewpoints the ruling and dominant governance without recognition or respecting the majority.
  
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- Dodsfall
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:32pm
  The Constitution provides for freedom of religion, not freedom from religion.
  
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- cantbelieveallthisgarbagecouldhappenwhodoislap
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:45pm
  Thank you Kenszen,our history has been bent,and even ,just out right lied about,thank you for having the docs and the will to share.If people heard jeffersons words to day(and other founders)they would see! but there words have been lost to most.
  
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- djpeyton21
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 8:10pm
  Indeed. Thank you Kenszen. A point many secularists appear to miss is our Founders’ and nation’s history of holding Christianity to the highest regard.
  
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FireRose
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:17pm
There are many ways to prove the the “seperation of church and state” is not Constitutional, and that the Founders were Christians by their own words. To those of you who know how to back this up, I encourage you to point this out to this organization. Do so with respect and dignity, and do not sink to the aggressive level that many liberals stoop to. Here is how to contact them:
http://ffrf.org/about/contact/

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- Benjack
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:28pm
  You are much too nice Rose. The only answer to these people is their systematic removal from society.
  
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- U.N.hater
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:31pm
  There is no seperation of church and state in the constitution. Anyone who can read knows this and anyone who say’s there is should be kicked out of this country. I’m so sick of this arguement.
  
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JUSTANOTHEROPINION
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:12pm
BuLL CRAP! This has to stop. The Bible was used as early teaching tools. They were used to teach reading, they were used to teach ethics, and they were used to teach personal and public Morality. Take our God fearing Nation back and do not comply. GOD RULES!!!!

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- American Soldier (Separated)
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:42pm
  We have better methods of teaching to read and teaching morality is a personal responsibility of the parent not the government. You are free to send your children to a christian academy where religion is part of the curriculum.
  
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momrules
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:12pm
Wow…never happy, these God haters are now demanding that Church property cannot display something that might offend them.

The FFRF is the mirror image of the Muslims. They are as evil and as dangerous as any teaching of Islam. They must have their way or they will harass, sue and destroy financially any school district or municipality that dares OFFEND them.

Should we next expect violence from the FFRF? I do. Usually that is the next step with fanatics.

I would say the Hell to them but that would be stating the obvious.

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The-Monk
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:11pm
“The complaint also notes that the display “lacks any secular purpose,” citing Stone v. Graham, a 1980 Supreme Court decision which ruled the Ten Commandments may not be posted in public school classrooms, because “The pre-eminent purpose“ for doing so ”is plainly religious in nature.”

That lawn sure doesn’t look like a classroom to me.

I’ll bet that school had windows when it was built. When the progressives made us build us a new High School in Va…. the new one had no windows. I wonder what year the windows were covered up at that school.

Oh yeah, here’s a link to the High School they made us move out of and what it looks like now.

Then http://mvhs-1960.com/home.html

Now http://mvhs-1960.com/home.html

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- The-Monk
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:12pm
  Edit;
  
  Now http://www.saudiacademy.net/History.htm
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:18pm
  Edit;
  
  Here’s the home page. I’ll get it right eventually….
  
  http://www.saudiacademy.net/
  
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TJexcite
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:10pm
Are not the 10 commandment somewhere in the Koran. Well say they are, and under blasphemy laws if you object to it being displayed you are in violation of the un-ratified UN resolution. They must be displayed as if they are remove it is an assault on the prophet of three religions.

This is a way to protect the first amendment and end the silent jihad.

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- Elena2010
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:29pm
  Sorry — there is nothing of the Ten Commandments in any of the islamic scriptures (koran, haddith, al sira).
  
  In fact, the 10 Commandments are 180 out fm islamic teaching. In islamic teaching you may and should steal fm the infidel, but not your brother muslim. They same applies for murder. Allah and the God of the Bible are two different personalities, out w/the “religious” ones. Adultery is in the eye of the beholder in islamic society; and when it is confirmed, the woman is generally the sole loser. Although, in Mali in recent weeks, a couple was killed for adultery, but since neither were married, it’s really fornication by Western definitions.
  
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djsGA
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:09pm
The complaint also notes that the display “lacks any secular purpose,” – So, let me get this straight. Telling someone not to kill has not secular purpose. Telling someone not to steal has no secular purpose. Telling someone to not commit adultery has no secular purpose. Telling someone not to lie has no secular purpose. Telling someone not to covet – to be envious and greedy – has no secular purpose.

Even if you ignore the ones that talk about God, these are foundations upon which all people should live. How can someone say that they have no secular purpose?

No wonder we are in the mess that we are in!

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- SouthLAConservative
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:36pm
  If you tell people not to do the things there are laws against then you are infringing on their right to find out on their own about the consequences, well the consequences on this side of the grave anyway.
  
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- antitheist
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:28pm
  Why would anyone want to display something so antithetical to the constitution as the ten commandments? Simply compare the first amendment with the first commandment to see how unpatriotic it is to post such filth in a public school.
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:59pm
  Filth?
  
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- OLDPAINT
  Posted on September 29, 2012 at 4:25am
  Antitheist, wait until The Great Spirit gets his hands on you and turns you over to the Wendigo. It won’t go well for you, but naturally, you’ll challenge me to prove these things. Wait and see.
  
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RGB
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:07pm
Did they misspell the plantif’s names in the case? Seems there is a “p” missing.

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Alborn49
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:07pm
It needs to be returned to the group that donated it and let them decide what to do with it. Once again we are letting the feelings of one person dictate what everyone else has to abide by. I about to get fed up with this crap. Freedom of religion does not mean freedom from religion.

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- 1TrueOne55
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:26pm
  This is the S.O.P. (standard operating procedure) of the left, to shame and deride you into submission using our own laws. If our legal system can not understand that the “Separation” of Church and Government was to keep those in power from telling you to follow Christ as a Catholic or Anglican Protestant follower of the Church of England. They did not want a Church of the Governments constructs since there were many different factions of Christianity already established when the Founding Fathers gained their freedom from the King of England they did not want to follow in his footsteps and create a Religion that was forced onto unwilling citizens, it is why they colonized the American continent. They wanted Religious freedom to worship God in their own way and as they chose to.
  
  The FFRF is abusing this phrase and is pushing another religious belief, that of secular humanism in its guise of Liberal Christianity and Atheism.
  
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grimmster
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:02pm
I believe its past time to put the fear of God into these people, with extreme prejudice……
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BRQ
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:02pm
Anyone that lives near a public school, or has a church near a public school, should put up signs with the 10 commandments in their front yard. Or any display where it can be seen from school grounds. Just a thought.

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Lucky5
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 5:58pm
When are the good people of this country going to stand up and speak out? All of the parents at this school need to take a stand and shut these attacks on religion down.

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- grimmster
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:17pm
  @Lucky5.
  The only way to stop the organizations, is to stand and fight,with what ever it takes,people need to stop “turning the other cheek”.!
  
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BuzzardSays
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 5:56pm
When it comes to atheists they absolutely hate freedom of speech. Especially Christian/Godly speech or symbols. They are very much like Al Queda in that they want to riot and kill Christians but not wanting to go to jail they utilize the Judicial court system to kill the person’s or group’s freedom of speech that made them feel as if God is watching. Pssssst! You stupid atheists. You can’t hide from God every deed and every thought will require that you give an account for yourself on Judgement Day. Hiding away His truth will not change yours. You are doomed outside of a relationship with God. Wake up fools and quit being allies of the devil. Or, for your ability to understand….allies of Al Queda.

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- U.N.hater
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:13pm
  They won’t post my resonse to you. Tryed twice. So i’ll just say not all of us who don’t believe in god hate people who do. These our just bad people who hate our country.
  
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- BuzzardSays
  Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:54pm
  U.N.hater
  Boy I hope you get back to this post. You don’t believe in God? And I assume you had a really good retort to attempt to hurt my sensibilities. I forgive your intent. Will God? My bible calls you a fool because you do not believe in God. My understanding of the pridefilled atheist mind is that it does not wish to believe in God because it would require that same mind to stop placing the whole atheist “thang” on the pedastal of your worldly existence.
  
  So you hate the UN but why? If you don’t believe in God how can you fit into the fabric of this nation founded on Christian principle? As such any thing should be hunkey-dory.
  
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Lucky5
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 5:56pm
When are WE THE PEOPLE going to stand up to this stuff??? All of the parents at this school should speak up and stand tall.

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Nigel2
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 5:52pm
If by some freak ( And by freak I mean some secular liberal Judge) if he rules the commandants cannot be moved to the church, I hope the church puts up a separate ann even bigger. LOL!

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