Catholic Bishop: Voting for Obama, Dems Could Place ‘Eternal Salvation of Your Own Soul in Serious Jeopardy’
Bishop Thomas John Paprocki from Springfield, Illinois, is getting attention after making some strongly-worded comments about those Americans who opt to vote for President Barack Obama in November. In a column and video that was posted by Catholic Times, the official newspaper of the Diocese of Springfield, Paprocki targeted portions of the Democratic platform that “explicitly endorse intrinsic evils.” He also warned that supporting certain politicians could place peoples’ “eternal salvation…in jeopardy.”
While he noted that it’s not his job to to tell people who do vote for, the faith leader said that he has a duty to speak out about moral issues. Despite his stated problems with the Democratic Party platform — the initial removal of God, its stance abortion and its support of gay marriage – Paprocki spoke relatively favorably of the Republican platform.
Photo Credit: Catholic Times
“I have read the Republican Party platform and there is nothing in it that supports or promotes an intrinsic evil or a serious sin,” he proclaimed.
While the bishop didn’t overtly name President Barack Obama as a poor candidate for people of faith to support, he invoked religious themes and warned of spiritual damnation if religious voters stand in support of politicians who “promote actions of behaviors that are intrinsically evil.”
“I am not telling you which party or which candidates to vote for or against. What I am saying is that you need to think and pray very carefully about your vote,” Paprocki said. “Because a vote for a candidate who promotes actions or behaviors that are intrinsically evil and gravely sinful makes you morally complicit and places the eternal salvation of your own soul in serious jeopardy.”
Here’s a portion of the video that was cut and posted by Right Wing Watch:
Here’s a longer version of this address, as published by the Catholic Times:
As noted, the Bishop is careful to continuously say that he’s not attempting to influence votes. However, the overall logic, which can be seen in the text version of his comments, follows a telling pattern. In the sixth paragraph, he notes that the Democratic platform endorses “intrinsic evils”; in the next paragraph he claims that the GOP platform does not endorse these same purported evils.
Then, he says that, while he’s not telling people which party or candidate to vote for, that “a vote for a candidate who promotes actions or behaviors that are intrinsically evil” could carry dire consequences. Since the only party mentioned as embracing evil in this manner is the Democrats, the thesis is self-evident.
(H/T: Fox Nation)
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SimpleTruths
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:14pmAnother example of just how desperate the Romney campaign is getting. Little man dressed up in a costume says be afraid, very afraid. Laughable.
cyntro
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:26pmObviously you are not Catholic. Believe me, this will shake up quite a lot of us, especially since it echos what we are hearing Sunday and reading in our newspapers and blogs.
paperpushermj
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:30pmPlease Place Comments to the Above Stupid Post Here
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The Jewish Avenger
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:32pmThe only thing is laughable is the flood of illegal immigrants that was solely for the purpose of Obama votes is now lost when they hear this message.
Don’t believe me?
Time to be schooled.
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I SPY
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:33pmThe devil couldn’t have worded it better himself, SIMPLETRUTH. You make your master happy.
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:35pmAlthough I do not believe the campaign is desperate, even if it was, arguendo, how would this story corrrelate to desperation? Are you suggesting someone from the Romney campaign asked the Bishop to say this in order to improve his chances of increasing the Catholic vote? Your logic makes no sense.
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Flag-Man
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:39pm@simpletruths, what have you been smoking?
What an idiot
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Landon410
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:41pmif you have a moral compus based upon your faith, then that moral compus should direct your decision
if you claim to be christian, how can you then support homosexuality abortion and forced redistribution? thats all he’s saying
if you do not live your life based on those same moral standards set by the christian faith then you can make your decision based upon whatever standard you have set for yourself
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Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:44pmHere you have a Catholic speaking out on the evil, vile, and wicked leadership. Where’s the Southern Baptists? Where are the Lutherns? Where are the Presbyterians? Where are the fundamentalist? I will tell you what is going on. Just about 100% of the churches are 501C3 nonprofit corporations and they can not speak out without risking the loss of their tax exempt status. Yes, most churches are run by the gov. and not the Lord. Most pastors are CEO and not shepherds. It’s sad. All churches everywhere have the common goal of getting rid of the evil in the WH but most can not say BOO. This is the corruption not just in gov. but our churches. Ask you preacher if you are a 501C3. I bet you are. Do you hear him speaking against the sin in the WH? NO. He has been efffectively silienced.
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Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:45pmWhy are no other denominations speaking out?
Here you have a Catholic speaking out on the evil, vile, and wicked leadership. Where’s the Southern Baptists? Where are the Lutherns? Where are the Presbyterians? Where are the fundamentalist? I will tell you what is going on. Just about 100% of the churches are 501C3 nonprofit corporations and they can not speak out without risking the loss of their tax exempt status. Yes, most churches are run by the gov. and not the Lord. Most pastors are CEO and not shepherds. It’s sad. All churches everywhere have the common goal of getting rid of the evil in the WH but most can not say BOO. This is the corruption not just in gov. but our churches. Ask you preacher if you are a 501C3. I bet you are. Do you hear him speaking against the sin in the WH? NO. He has been efffectively silienced.
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exposejesuits
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:46pmThe Vatican invented Islam, to kill Christians and non-Catholics “The Vatican wanted to create a messiah for the Arabs, someone they could raise up as a great leader, a man with charisma whom they could train, and eventually unite all the non-Catholic Arabs behind him, creating a mighty army that would ultimately capture Jerusalem for the pope. In the Vatican briefing, Cardinal Bea told us this story:
‘A wealthy Arabian lady who was a faithful follower of the pope played a tremendous part in this drama. She was a widow named Khadijah. She gave her wealth to the church and retired to a convent, but was given an assignment. She was to find a brilliant young man who could be used by the Vatican to create a new religion and become the messiah for the children of Ishmael. Khadijah had a cousin named Waraquah,, who was also a very faithful Roman Catholic and the Vatican placed him in a critical role as Muhammad’s advisor. He had tremendous influence on Muhammad. While Muhammad was being prepared, he was told that his enemies were the Jews and that the only true Christians were Roman Catholic. He was taught that others calling themselves Christians were actually wicked impostors and should be destroyed. Many Muslims believe this. http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2006/04apr/catholicislam.html
Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:46pmI am not a Catholic, but I applaud this message. It needs shouted from every pulpit in America.
Here you have a Catholic speaking out on the evil, vile, and wicked leadership. Where’s the Southern Baptists? Where are the Lutherns? Where are the Presbyterians? Where are the fundamentalist? I will tell you what is going on. Just about 100% of the churches are 501C3 nonprofit corporations and they can not speak out without risking the loss of their tax exempt status. Yes, most churches are run by the gov. and not the Lord. Most pastors are CEO and not shepherds. It’s sad. All churches everywhere have the common goal of getting rid of the evil in the WH but most can not say BOO. This is the corruption not just in gov. but our churches. Ask you preacher if you are a 501C3. I bet you are. Do you hear him speaking against the sin in the WH? NO. He has been efffectively silienced.
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Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:47pmTime to yank the tax exemption.
Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:49pmHow can anyone vote for a man that kills 8,000 plus unborn everyday in America? Yes, it’s murder. What else is it when they take a knife and using force pull and cut an unborn from the womb? You can watch it on Youtube. It’s sick and you are sick if you vote for a killer like Obummer.
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TH30PH1LUS
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:50pmA vote for Obama is a vote for baby-killing.
The power to have a voice in our own government means RESPONSIBILITY. Yes, we WILL answer to the Almighty for what we did with this power.
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blackstone22
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:53pmthis is not about the Romney campaign this is the battle cry for Catholics to wake up and realize that they need to take personal responsibility for the votes they cast and the policy decisions that result from those votes. You cannot be be a Catholic of good conscience and vote for Obama, there is no grey area on this issue. I have voted democratic in the past, but the party has moved too far away from common ground with my beliefs, and i’m a lapsed catholic. Not sure what my personal beliefs are, but i sure don’t want to be grouped with this current democratic platform. I applaud this Bishop for coming forward and helping me clarify my own personal position.
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KevINtampa
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:00pmAccording to the Prophecy of Popes by St. Malachy, the Catholic Church is on the verge of:
Petrus Romanus, qui paſcet oues in multis tribulationibus: quibus tranſactis ciuitas ſepticollis diruetur, & Iudex tremẽdus iudicabit populum ſuum. Finis.
“In the extreme persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit Peter the Roman, who will nourish the sheep in many tribulations; when they are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people. The end.”
Quite interesting given the world’s current sociological and political overtones.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes
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greggo
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:04pmSaint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the Divine Power of God, cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who wander throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.
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waxmrtle
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:11pmWhy are religious institutions who receive tax exemption allowed to try to scare the ignorant blazer people into voting one way or another?
Also, what’s with celibacy? Don’t remember Jesus saying it was necessary. Oh yea, it kept property in the Church. These people claim to have magical powers, but it just isn’t holding up with their history, old and recent.
hayesstephen
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:14pmSimpletruth it should be simpleton. This is a man who has told the truth, which you will one day you will find out. I am not a Catholic and I an not an apologist for the Church. Little nasty monsters as your self are the reason our County has been destroyed. Change your ways for the day of the Lord is close at hand. On that day let me see you laugh.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:40pm@SIMPLE
And the evidence of “The Project,” the islamic manifesto to infiltrate our government doesn’t concern you at all? The jailing of a man who makes a video as his right to free speech and the lies Owebama and SoS Clinton told about the attacks on our embassies don’t concern you either? It’s one thing to be down-right dumb, but to be willfully ignorant for political purposes is no excuse.
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Creativethinker
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:43pmI commend the Catholic priest for addressing the catholics on this issue. This is being said on Christian TV and I have heard it in a church in Tampa,FL. Of course the church also had General Jerry Boykin as a speaker at a camp meeting.
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exposejesuits
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:50pmOboma is a Muslim.Muslims kill Christians.America is being destroyed, as planned. We came in like lamb sand rule like wolves.We shall be expelled like dogs and Return like eagles. -Fancesco Borgia[ 3rd Jesuit Superior General] Beware of false prophets,which come to in Sheeps clothing,but inwardly, they are ravening wolves. - JESUS CHRIST [Mathew 7:15 KJV]
CHILD MOLESTERS and BRAIN WASHERS.The Vatican invented Islam, to kill Christians and non-Catholics .Our families came here to fee religous persecution, of the Catholic Church. WHO ARE THE KNIGHTS OF MALTA? Know your history, or REPEATE IT! Do your homework and study, what has gone on, from the begining of time. What was Hadrians Wall?,Why was it built around ROMAN ENGLAND?
exposejesuits
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:55pmOboma is a Muslim.Muslims kill Christians.America is being destroyed, as planned. We came in like lamb sand rule like wolves.We shall be expelled like dogs and Return like eagles. -Fancesco Borgia[ 3rd Jesuit Superior General] Beware of false prophets,which come to in Sheeps clothing,but inwardly, they are ravening wolves. - JESUS CHRIST [Mathew 7:15 KJV]
CHILD MOLESTERS and BRAIN WASHERS.The Vatican invented Islam, to kill Christians and non-Catholics .Our families came here to fee religous persecution, of the Catholic Church. WHO ARE THE KNIGHTS OF MALTA? Know your history, or REPEATE IT! Do your homework and study, what has gone on, from the begining of time. What was Hadrians Wall?,Why was it built around ROMAN ENGLAND?
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:55pmSimpletruth – get off your communist knees – you have satisfied comrade obama!
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HKS
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:56pmObama is the least of concern for Romney, He’s just a dud, NBC,CBS,ABC,CNN,MSNBC and hundreds of newspapers are the real opponents.
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swamp_donkey
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:58pmbreaking news just , jerry sandusky endorses the gop as well
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swamp_donkey
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 3:03pmdamn the gop has locked up the perv vote
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LetUsReason
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 3:49pmYou don’t like costumes?
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Michael-Kohlhaas
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 3:51pmI am surprised other Catholic leaders have not spoken up before about the Democratic party’s total disregard of human life .
He is only pointing out the obvious contrast between the two platforms.
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cosette
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:01pm@ Swamp Donker…. Can you prove that? I can prove to you that the Communist Party U.S.A. has, this election cycle as in the last, endorsed and monetarily supported Obama. They have an enthusiastic ringing endorsement of their chosen candidate on their website, cpusa.org. If you dare to visit the site today you will see the headline… “Defeating the right wing on the road to socialism”. You will, no doubt, ignore this post as you, like the rest of your ilk, prefer to bury your heads in the sand as your country is destroyed.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:23pm@PROSECUTE
How about this:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/27/Black-Bishop-Rips-Dem-Party
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inblack
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:49pmWell done:
1) Democratic positions are evil.
2) Republicans positions are not evil.
3) If you vote for the group with evil positions you are going to HELL.
We need to get rid of the govt slave collar on religion so they can have free speech. This would make this message simpler.
1) Vote republican or you’re going to hell.
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Mojoron
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:49pmNO offense, but its not a costume, I take offense to your intended funny-ha-ha. Like the other bloggers have said, this is a big thing in the Catholic Church to have a bishop stand up and tell people there are consequences for their in-actions, or in this case their actions. The Catholic bishops have been, for the most part, on the sidelines and afraid to call the policies of the federal government what they are, a bunch of mindless garbage. You would think twice about your comments if a government policy were impinging on your rights. I’m sure the government is but maybe you just don’t know it. Religion is an important part of society for some people and to be told that their souls are in jeopardy because of a innocent vote for president IS a big deal.
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girlnurse
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 5:02pmYeah, Im a Christian and I am against murder (personally) but I am voting for Hitler cause that guy is white and German like me and he is one hella great speaker!
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Michael-Kohlhaas
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 5:30pmGirl Nurse
Whats your point? Besides you like Hitler?
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Female
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 5:47pmPTI,
Thanks for sharing the breitbart link…the Bishop’s call for black Christians to exodus the democrat party because of their platforms of abortion, gay marriage, anti-Israel, and hostility towards GOD. It was awesome to watch! Time to see what else he has to say. I took the time to read his bio…wish he was our harvard law graduate President right now!
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The_Jerk
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 5:56pmWhatever it takes to get the communist out of the White House.
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justlyso
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:24pmKEEP chooming w/ O. Amazing that the Catholic church is finally speaking out! The moral bankruptcy of our society will be its downfall. After looking at the posts, I was sickened by some of the comments. Many have typical progressive narcissistic statements.
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turkey13
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:02pmMy next door neifhbors are African Americans and I was talking whith the wife in her late 70′s yesterday and we were talking about church. We are Church of Christ and my neighbors are Baptist. It seems that last Sunday both of our churches were preaching against Obama. My neighbors know myself and wife voted straight Democrat line. They also know our sons construction company had to lay off crews to stay under the 25 heads or provide insurence which they would have to cut pay for it. My neighbors son has lost his job because of Obama and they have listened to their pastor and will be voting for a Republican for the first time. This is a case of a black and white preacher adviseing to vote against Obama.
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Seasoldier
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:19pmIt’s unfortunate that you do not recognize a man courageously performing his duties when you see it. This “little man” is a Catholic bishop who has a solemn obligation to speak out on matters of faith and morals, even in the face of scoffing and personal attacks such as yours. He is responsible for the proper faith instruction of everyone in his diocese. Given that Catholics comprise more than 25% of the U. S. population, Catholic bishops have a very important and, possibly decisive, role to play in the moral progress of our country, just as they have since the first explorers set foot upon this continent. As a matter of fact, as we saw confirmed during the Democrat Party convention, President Obama and the Democrat Party fully support and promote the intrinsically evil policies of unrestricted abortion and the entire homosexual agenda, including redefinition of marriage/destruction of the fundamental family unit. They also support Government intrusion into every area of the lives of every individual citizen, which is directly opposed to the very Catholic principle of Subsidiarity that happens to also be incorporated into our U. S. Constitution, particularly under the 10th Amendment. No Catholic, or any other citizen, in good conscience, can vote for Obama or for any Democrat, for that matter, and the good bishop is quite correct to point out the moral dangers for his flock and for our country. We all need to Pray and Vote For Life and Freedom in every election in 2012.
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exposejesuits
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:58pmThe Vatican is full of criminal liers, CHILD MOLESTERS,murders, and theives.The Vatican invented Islam, to kill Christians and non-Catholics . They are why we came to this country, to flee their crimminal religion, of lies and murder. They are why our country, is in so much trouble, most of our Presidents and officals, are Knights of Malta, puppits of the Vatican.People need to study a little world history, or die repeating it.Who needs a child molester to confess their sins to? Us PROTESTANTS, DONT NEED A PRIEST, to intersead with GOD. My God whats to here directly from me.
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Platonician
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 8:45pm@exposejesuits
“The Vatican invented Islam, to kill Christians and non-Catholics.”
The nice part of your post is that you are showing your true hateful nature, well suited for liberal troll! You are so obnoxious that you think Blazes are so ignorant that they don’t know that Islam was created in the 7th century. Long before protestantism appeared. Who were the Christians then? LOL
You say protestants came to America to flee persecution from The Catholic Church. It’s pretty much the contrary, and the history of the settlement of Maryland is the perfect example of that.
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Keatonc333
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 10:25pmHAHA so true! so true! well they can’t beat him any other way!
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cignaciojr
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 10:40pmlaughable for some people like you who don’t understand the true teaching of Christianity. obama and you….birds of the feathers flocks together!
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snooop1e
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 11:21pm@London410 – Protestants believe that no matter what they do they cannot lose their salvation, once they say the sinners prayer no amount of sin can separate them from God. They believe that being born again doesn’t mean that a person actually changes and repents and turns from their life of sin. To Protestants being “born again” means believing that Jesus is God and died for our sins. Protestants believe that human beings are degenerate and not capable (even with Gods grace) of obeying Gods Commands so being born again doesn’t mean a person actually changes it just means that Jesus righteousness hides their sins. Protestants believe that Christians are snow covered dung hills. That being said, Protestants can vote for a candidate that openly supports things like late term abortion and homosexual marriage. Protestants believe that thier is no connection between how they live their lives and their salvation. They believe that anything they do to try and live a moral life is actually denying the once for all sacrifice of Jesus on the cross and is therefore is “works righteosness” Martin Luther also belived this and encouraged “Christians” to “Sin and Sin Boldly” just to show Satan that no amount of sin can separate them from God. Hope this helps, Peace in Christ.
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muffythetuffy
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 11:44pmIt is about time.
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drrgb
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 12:28amLove how “tolerant” liberals love to stomp on the religious rights of Christians. If you and Obama had the guts to say something like this to Muslims, you would have a murder contract placed on your head by some loony mullah.
Even if you are not Catholic, voting for someone with Obama’s record would be a sin of gross stupidity.
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TeresaJ
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 1:09am@SN000P1E
SN000P1E, I am Protestant (non-denominational), and I don’t believe a thing of what you just said, except that Jesus died for our sins.
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Alessandre
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 1:42amyou are simple. do you know that 0 has Catholics calling other Catholics to try & convince them to vote for 0? or tht they took the voting guide the Bishops wrote 4 years ago & tried to use it to tell Catholics they could vote for “peace & social justice” issues instead of voting against intrinsic evil. you may not take your soul seriously but many Catholics do. thanks be to God! I hope you value your soul. doing evil results in the kinds of things Jesus preached about & the prophets wrote about. the worst evil was passing your children through the fire which was sacrificing your own children in our age known as abortion. it’s really a very simple truth.
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capitalman
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 7:53amYou have no soul
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capitalman
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 7:56amYou have no soul.
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nocalifornia
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 8:43amWell for an atheist you aren’t very bright are you? The Catholic vote that the democrats have counted on since Kennedy will not be there this election cycle and may never be again for you Godless socialist democrats.
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jpasq99
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 9:17am” Little man dressed up in a costume” How dare you speak of a man who has devoted his life to God and attempting to help people of your ilk. Whether you believe in God or not this man is still a Bishop in the largest Christian religion in the world and deserves at the very least, respect for that office.
Unfortunately, I am not as charitable as he would be regarding your characterization of him. My opinion of you is a lowlife, bottomfeeder. May God have mercy on you!!!
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VigilantGuardShark
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:41amSimpletruths,
were I a Muslim, I would be looking to behead you for your comments. The Bishop Paprocki has a depth of knowledge you couldn’t hope to obtain with your sophomoric attitude and the degree of your ignorance is apparent from your comment.
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GaltLine
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:57amVery little man armed with teleprompter and propped up by ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, PBS saying he looks very presidential says, “Romney/Ryan want to push granny over the cliff and take their Medicare away. What a hypocrite!
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THERAPTURCOMES
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:10amOh just great.
A cult like the catholic church whom have killed literally millions condemns people when they themselves are a cult and condemned
The CC is not Christianity but a is a perversion of Christianity
http://youtu.be/ahEVxIzlxwo
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Marcia
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:12amSimpletruths needs to be afraid – just as the bishop says; be afraid for your very soul. We conservatives are not afraid of the truth.
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Thatsenough
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:53amThat “little man in a costume” is a Bishop of MY church and I take extreme offense…you are not simple except for your intellect, maybe….it’s a good thing we’re not Muslim or your little body would be in great danger.
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muffythetuffy
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 12:06pmSince Glen Beck declared a prayer and fasting to ask God to help us defeat Obama I have been saying the Rosary daily. I wounder if Liberals have anyone to pray to?
The power of darkness must be defeated.
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TooMuchSense
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 12:17pmYou would not understand, since you’ve sold your soul already. What a pity. Such evil deep within one’s marrow. Live it up now. That’s all you have.
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cpamcpam1
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 12:17pmCommon sense, morality and ethics have all been lost on the “progressives” and their leadership, Obama, Peloai and Reid.
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snooop1e
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 12:31pm@teresaj – you said “I am Protestant (non-denominational), and I don’t believe a thing of what you just said, except that Jesus died for our sins” Yes I know, you already stated that you think things like what day you worship on and the mode of Baptism are “fluff” It seems you belong to the emergent church movement which identifies itself based on the things it doesn’t believe in vice what it stands for. The problem is, there are real life issues that Christians have to address (abortion, contraception,homosexual marriage, divorce and remarriage). How can one repent of sins unless those sins are explicitly identified as sins? How do we know that we are worshipping God in the way that God wants us to worship Him? It’s easy to say I believe in Jesus and leave it at that but Jesus is a person and Jesus taught us things and told us what is necessary to have eternal life. There are things that Jesus expects of us. That which is most easily understood is believed to be true. So if we narrow down all of the Bible and all of Jesus teachings and all of the Apostles writings to just one thing (believe in Jesus) it fits in a nice little box with a bow on top but it doesn’t get Christians any closer to actually FOLLOWING Jesus. The 2 questions I would ask you are 1. What DO you believe and 2. What are you Protesting? I have met many “non-denominational” Christians who don’t share their Pastors views on Justification and Salvation which seems odd to me. Pax Ch
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The Spark
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 1:20pmFirst of all, where is Romney mentioned in any of this? Does Romney actually know the man? Are you saying that it is impossible that two people with different agendas can line up at one time? The basic assumptions in your comment seem half baked.
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MANPLANSGODLAUGHS
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 1:44pmWhere did he say Romney was behind his speech? Just goes to show how desperate YOU are to blame Romney’s campaign
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BCool777
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 2:06pmThe only one little is you! I sure wouldn’t want to be in your shoes come judgment day, and have to answer to god why you would B-Little one of his children?
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The Bald Eagle
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 2:21pmMock the Bishop all you want he is good company…. 42 Medal of Honor recipients have endorsed Romeny this week, more than half of those living.
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flav
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 2:29pmSimplettruths, here is one BIG truth for you: He Who laughs last, laughs louder! Get it, my friend? The Last Judgement Day? You and God alone? No witnesses? No DNC to coach you? No Obama to save you? And you “laughing” for the last time!!!?
Laughable, ha?
FreL
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belief101
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 2:35pmTypical Obama type response to something you don’t like: Blame someone else, usually Romney!
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welder4
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 2:39pmYeah the Mormons and the Catholics are the same right? No Catholic Bishop in their right mind would say anything at the behest of a Mormon. If Obama gets another term you and I may as well bend over stick our heads between our legs and kiss ourselves good bye.
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nmgene
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 2:47pmIt is no secret that Mohamad was a child of Satan and the quran is the book of satan. I commend this Bishop for standing tall. It is also not against the law for a Priest or Minister to say what he feels, It is the first ammednment. The IRS has been beat when they tried to pull the tax free standard, its just not advertised by the left wing media. Vote for abortion and same sex marriage and you will be judged and condemned by God!!!!!!!!
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help me world
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 2:47pmSimple is as Simple does, just insert Stupid for Simple.
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boyer68
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 3:09pmI see you have a photo of a “cigarette” smoking Barack “The disgraceful excuse for a relevant life” Obama next to your user name. That alone speaks volumes about you, not to mention your idiotic comment.
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pallyden
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 3:13pmYou are obvisously an idiot or your parents where Father & daughter. The Bishop is telling it as it is. You can’t stand in gray areas. Either you ” Testis Sum AGNUS” or you stand in Hell’s waiting room. Take your weenie & some beans to roast.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 3:30pmSIMPLY PUT: The Catholic Church was the best decision I have made in my life. I am so grateful for it and that key members of my family are or have come to it too. 28% of the voters in the USA are Catholic. This is a larger number than Blacks (many of whom are not voting for Obama this time around). Obama, being a Muslim Counterfeiter, knows -0- of GOD; of GOD’S plans for us (His Children) or how satan has tried to kill all of God’s creations. Again I’d like to point out that of the Billions of people who have inhabited the earth, only 5% of us have been born, lived in FREEDOM. GOD has each of us here, right now – in this period of time – for a reason.
Mock if you want to, it has -0- effect on us except to prove once again how far off course Obama and all of those who support him have gone and tried to drag our country.
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Jonny Quest
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 3:56pm“Simpletruths,” your user name is quite appropriate, since you’re obviously very “simple”-minded.
The bishop’s comments have nothing to do with the Romney campaign, fool. They are his own, from convictions based in his faith — apparently something you would know NOTHING about.
His comments ARE accurate; the Democrat platform IS absolutely in direct conflict with biblical truth, while the Republican platform is not.
THAT’s the simple truth. If you can’t recognize that, you’re an idiot.
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scudster
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 4:18pm@Simple what does this have to do with Romney?
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potemkin_village_usa
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 4:25pmRomney is a Mormon, not a Catholic. Furthermore, it is quite remote that he has any control over the dicta of the Catholic Church and its high clergy. Non sequitur et ad absurdum
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Want our country back
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 4:29pmPROSECUTE FYI:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/23/pastors-pledge-to-defy-irs-preach-politics-from-pulpit-ahead-election/
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Longhorns62
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 4:57pmYour boy Barry is in trouble. He has pissed off the Jews and Christians in the world. He sucks up to the Muslim. Independents are over the “white guilt”. He blames everybody else for his mistakes. His record is horrible. What has he done in 3.5 years? He takes credit for killing a terrorist-Bush put the assets in place. Then he lets the guy who informed us about the location of Bin La din sit in a jail cell! Please! Obarry care is going to bankrupt this nation. I ask you again what has he done? Oh crap, I spoke out against the anointed-one. I will now be accused of racism.
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cyndlou
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 6:49pmcan’t handle the real truth only “simple” truths – they’re so much easier to spin huh -
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Lgbpop
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 6:58pmGee, Simpleton, you must go postal when AME pastors tell their parishioners to vote FOR Obama. Right?
Right…
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Banshee1967
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 7:30pmI agree with you there Simpletruths. Somehow I don’t think ANY god, if there were any, would give two, ot even one, hoots about who I vote for.
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darkloch
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 7:39pmonly the media shows Obama ahead in the poles. that is because it is his media, that say alot.
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4kidsandacat
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 8:07pmEvil belittles and ridicules what it fears. The trolls that make these little “drive by” comments only do it because they are afraid. Just like Satan.
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DoGooder
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 8:09pmSimpleton…Get up off your obama doll and see the truth. The only thing laughable is when the air lets out of your dream date.
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rennyangel
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 8:26pmLaugh at yourself, funny guy.
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Immortalmortal
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 8:42pmExposeJesuits The Jesuit order was around before 153?. They were founded around the same time as the Knight Templar. No, Satan didn’t invent Islam or Mohammad either. He was just another thug, with a large following. He forced women to marry him after he killed their husbands. – That is a historical fact.
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intrepidorator
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 9:02pmIt is clear to all of us that only an Obama supporter would try to say thay Romney had anything to do with this. It is to be expected though, because Obama would stoop to this level, and an Obama supporter would expect it from their great leader.
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Don
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 9:31pmLOL Why do these folks who seem to hate those of who love God and country wish to harass us? I mean come on if you folks hate us so much or just hate what we believe why would any of you haters even BOTHER coming to this forum? Most of you seem to think of yourselves as intelligent and enlightened but I do have to laff LOL. But seriously if you guys REALLY were so darn smart and were as ALL inclusive as you say then in most cases I think you would not even come here. Think about it. Here you are, so called smart peeps harassing those who you think cant possibly be right.
It makes no sense really that any of you would even BOTHER with the likes of those stupid hill billy red neck gun loving God fearing rednecks. Every time you people post something you make each pf yourselves a far greater hypocrite than most of us. Keep posting it only proves to many of us just how hateful and INTOLERABLE and yes not so smart for even coming here in the first place you Libs are. lol now just go away and if u REALLY think your right just leave us be. Seriously who are you trying to prove anything to anyway? US?? lol no wait maybe its to yourselves.
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Howard Ino
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 9:46pmJust another Progressive fool!
Wait until you live in the Unites States of Cuba…
You little man, will squeal the most when they nail you…
The losers are the first the Marxist eliminate!
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Battlecarrot
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 9:56pmI get it. You don’t believe, and you have a duty to attack those that do, including those that have never harmed you in any way.
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votsbh
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 9:58pmIt makes me wonder why trolls like you have such a hard time recognizing EVIL ?
Maybe in the long run it would be beneficial for you to look in the mirror and account
to your self what kind of irresponsible person you are.
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Gillie4Liberty
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:00pmSimple, you sound a little desprate, maybe even afraid. Afraid that your little man in the white house may actually lose. The time for Obama honoring himself will soon be at an end.
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Battlecarrot
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:00pmAtheism is a fine old heretical religion -Anti-theism is just ordinary bigoted hatred. Yaaaaaaaawn -Heard that for 2,000 years. Boring.
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MIBUGNU2
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:07pmKeep it Simple, Simple !! I’ll go for the funny suit over the
Condescending POS that smiles and Lies to your face !!!!!.
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MIBUGNU2
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:10pm@Michael-Kohlhaas
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 5:30pm
Girl Nurse
Whats your point? Besides you like Hitler?
I’ll keep it SIMPLE for you too, FUC* OBAMA !!!
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lassiegirldawn
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:22pmObviously, you are not a Christian, it was the Democratic Party that had to vote to keep God in their platform, and when I listened, the nays were louder than the yays.
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weskets
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:39pmThis article does not mention Romney, the only reason for even stating that is out of fear. Evil fears the truth and must attempt to discredit it and/or shout it down so as not to be heard.
I am not Catholic, but glad to hear someone from the Catholic church finally speaking out in how the members of the Catholic faith should view ANY candidate running for public office.
In regards to the polls showing the President in the “Lead”, that is good, I have been encouraging everyone to tell pollsters that they are voting “Democratic”. This serves multiple purposes.
1) keeps POTUS from planning anything stupid if he believes he has it in the bag
2) gets the media all excited and slobbering all over themselves thinking they are right
3) in the end, let’s those running for office that they too can be mislead, so watch out, the time to fear the people has returned.
I just “Hope” that many Catholics hear Bishop Paprocki’s message and realize he is correct and “Change” the way they vote in November so this country can once again move “Foward” by returning to our Values, Rights, Freedoms and following the US Constitution.
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MIBUGNU2
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:47pmObama called BEBE after hearing that Romney meet
with him earler…..Funny !!! obama is a real tool…….
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as_mad_as_hell
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 5:13amYes, nothing could be more effective for a desperate Romney campaign than to have a Catholic bishop try to scare people into voting for Mitt. His excellency is merely saying what should have been said frequently and long ago — if you vote for those who would slaughter innocents in the name of “women’s health” and support marriage between members of the same sex (both of which are grave transgressions to the church’s teachings) — you will face the consequences. The teachings of the Catholic church are not like a smorgasbord — you can’t pick and choose to follow some and not others. As for atheists like you, you needn’t make fun of a religion and, by doing so, its billion-plus adherents — it’s unbecoming and shows lack of breeding.
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DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 7:51amEXPOSEJESUITS – hateful. The good news is people who believe like you rarely reproduce.
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Craig_H
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 8:42amYou are a godless democrat without a sense of morality. Without doubt, you favor removing God from all public discourse, abortions on demand and favor telling Churches to go against their beliefs. You, and others like you, are the reason why Obama and his cohorts need to be defeated.
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Wolf
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 8:50amObviously, ‘simple’ truth is much too complicated for Simpletruth to comprehend.
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SyttendeMai17
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 9:28amNeed something to combat the freebies like the 1,000,000 “Obama phones” handed out in Ohio alone.
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Rightofwayne
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 7:24pm@Simple – When your’ conscience has become so seared that you nonchalantly make comments such as you have against the words of a man with faith and conviction in God, you may have to concern yourself less with politics and more with the more personal matter of your own eternal soul.
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DARIVS
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 1:31amBeing a Catholic myself, I totally understand why the church would advise against voting for a man who has worked against religion and freedom. If you secularists/atheists cannot understand why the “man in the funny costume” is warning fellow Catholics that supporting a man who is openly hostile to the church is a threat to one’s faith in Catholicism, or Christianity in general, then you are too busy looking at what the guy is wearing and not listening to what he is saying.
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l84thegame
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:14amObama is the “little man” with no courage or morals. He has intentionally decieived America about his intentions for this country. He is a marxist and is collaborating with the muslim brotherhood to destroy this country. If you stand with Obama you are likely a marxist too. Even if he wins re-election (which I seriously doubt) the American people will never submit to his evil marxist plans. He and his followers will be defeated in the end by the grace of god! May the lord have mercy on your “progressive” souls.
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JudyG46
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 5:08pmSimple is as simple thinks!!!
“Our beliefs determine our values. Our values determine our decisions and actions” Author Unknown
We can see what your beliefs are, aside from being ‘simple’ (noun: an ignorant, foolish, or gullible person)
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Geeky Grandma
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 11:40amVoting for evil IS evil. Every action we do on earth will be judged. YHWH always sends a messenger before he punishes those who, BY THEIR OWN FREE WILL, CHOOSE EVIL. If you WANT to be cursed along with the rest of the Democrat Party…. have at it.
Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues; for her sins are heaped high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. Revelation 18:5
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Geeky Grandma
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 11:47amThe Catholic Church WANTS Obama to come after them. He will lose.
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Joel Knows
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:13pmSeems like he’s saying that if we have to paint our actions with a broad brush of justification then we are probably doing something wrong, or in this case people running for office. The straight and narrow way leads to salvation, but the road to hell is crooked and wide.
This seems to be going along with what the Mormon church is looking at with Old Dingy Harry, and his ignoring the basic tenets of his Mormon faith.
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swamp_donkey
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:00pmand romney has been prochoice his whole life til the wingnuts drug him into their fold lol
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exposejesuits
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:41pmCHILD MOLESTERS and BRAIN WASHERS.The Vatican invented Islam, to kill Christians and non-Catholics .Our families came here to fee religous persecution, of the Catholic Church. WHO ARE THE KNIGHTS OF MALTA? Know your history, or REPEATE IT! Do your homework and study, what has gone on, from the begining of time. What was Hadrians Wall?,Why was it built around ROMAN ENGLAND?
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iampraying4u
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:01pmThis is the first time ive been proud of a catholic preacher even if he does wear a dress
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inblack
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:46pm@EXPOSEJESUITS
WTF are you smoking? You are a ******. Go read some Da Vinci code fantasy novels.
“The Vatican invented Islam”?
Tell that to the 100 million Christians and Jews the Arabs have slaughter.
In case you haven’t noticed, Islam is real and wants your head.
I say AMEN to a Christian with the GUTS to come out and call the democrats EVIL.
Way to Go Bishop!
Now lets hear some other Christian – Baptists? Lutherans? Presbyterians? Anglicans? Adventists?
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TyrannyNoMore
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 5:38pmExposejesuits…..You are either smoking crack or you are a full blown propagandist for Beelzebub ! Ever hear of a little thing called the Crusades ?
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inblack
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 8:02pm@EXPOSEJESUITS
“The The world is controlled by the Jesuits, Black Nobility, and the Vatican.”
BWWWAAAAAHAAHAAHAA
No the world is controlled by vegetarians, migrant workers and drug store clerks!!!!
Run everybody! Shift change at the drug store!!!
Somewhere there is a village missing its a-sshat.
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by faith
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:53amEXPOSE
Knights of Malta: Today the order has about 13,000 members; 80,000 permanent volunteers; and 20,000 medical personnel including doctors, nurses, auxiliaries and paramedics in more than 120 countries. The goal is to assist the elderly, handicapped, refugeed, children, homeless, those with terminal illness and leprosy in five continents of the world, without distinction of race or religion. In several countries—including France, Germany and Ireland—the local associations of the Order are important providers of first aid training, first aid services and emergency medical services. Through its worldwide relief corps—Malteser International—the Order is also engaged to aid victims of natural disasters, epidemics and armed conflicts.
You consider this group evil? I don’t think you know what that word means
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momrules
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:11pmThis is so basic I could cry that it takes a Catholic Bishop saying it to get attention. Putting politics aside, if you claim to be a Christian, if you believe in God you will not vote for this man.
I pray all the time. I pray regarding Obama but I have never prayed concerning whether I should vote for him or not. I knew from the beginning that he was wrong for America. After four years I know he is an evil man intent on destroying America.
Now I just pray that America wakes up and that it is not too late for America to be saved.
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retiredrambler
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:21pmAmen MomRules couldn’t agree more.
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cloudsofwar
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:31pm@ MOM….. keep praying during these 40 days for our Country. may others join us. i’m voting for ROMNEY. I believe that Obama is a traitor to this NATION. GOD BLESS AMERICA. and i wish our soliders would not follow his orders. Obama is getting them KILLED.
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swamp_donkey
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:03pmyeah we should vote for the the party that wants them to be born then let them starve or die with no healthcare or ship em to die in the middle east or maybe execute them if they break the law lol
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momrules
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:12pmSwampdonkey…………vote however you want to. I am to the point I just don’t care what you stupid liberals do. When all Hell is rained down on this country you will be caught in the flood just like the rest of us. The only difference will be that you earned it.
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Creativethinker
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:53pmI agree@ Momrules. I am really praying tht Romney wins the WH and that people wake up! I was encouraged to see a bumper sticker on an SUV yesterday though… there was a picture of the statue of liberty and it said: ” Democrats for Romney we want our change back”
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girlnurse
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:47pmMaybe some people’s “blackness” comes before their God. That is because their “blackness” has become an idol.
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Cavy2see
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 1:59pm..I know some do not believe…praying praying for all of us…agree with this man/bishop will get you free … how do the women who abort their kids really feel? I feel pain for them…Bishop Paprocki has every right to speak out…another thing not all priests are evil…just like not all politicians are evil…we have to do our homework…look at their lives…God Help us all…I am constantly thinking of how we must go back to God…and country…and family…
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blackyb
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:10pmThank you Bishop Paprocki. I believe you are a brave and good man. May God ever be with you.
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swamp_donkey
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:51pmmomrules
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:12pm
Swampdonkey…………vote however you want to. I am to the point I just don’t care what you stupid liberals do. When all Hell is rained down on this country you will be caught in the flood just like the rest of us. The only difference will be that you earned it.
i believe if all hell is rained down it will be on the hypocrites first so watch out
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pamela63
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 3:54pmI agree with the Bishop Paprocki, although I am not Catholic. I am Southern Baptist, and am becoming tired of the leaders of the SBC not taking bold stands on sin like they used to. They have started caving in to political correctness, and I am about ready to change denominations.
I have to admire the Catholics who have stood up against this wicked administration. Anyone who is a Christian should not vote the Christ-hating democrats back in.
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cosette
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:14pm@ Swamp… How, exactly, do you know who on this site is or is not a hypocrite? You wouldn’t know “Momrules” if you fell over her, or any other visitor to this site for that matter. Are you wholly unable to post a comment without the outrageous name calling so typical of the left? Every post you’ve made has included a personal attack. Your m.o is indicative of your weak argument.
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swamp_donkey
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:39pmcosette thats easy you are all hypocrites
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inblack
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:52pm@PAMELA63
I agree – our Baptists preachers need to come out and condemn this evil in the Democratic party.
The DNC convention was a hedonist’s death parade.
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Twobyfour
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 1:41amSod off, Swampy_Ass.
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Ziggy
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:10pmAny one with a basic knowledge of catholic beliefs knows he is correct.
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chucksue351
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:22pmis this the same catholic church that murdered millions of people who would not submit
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The Jewish Avenger
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:39pmNo, this is the same Catholic Church that has been killed by the millions in the name of going “FORWARD” and let us not forget the Mexican slaying of priests in the name of their “liberty” oh did I forget about the peace loving Islamists? While were at it lets talk about the millions that died of starvation of the United Kingdom and how the considered Catholics “less than dogs”
In short, “you sir, are an ass”
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circleDwagons
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:48pmis this the same Catholics that supported obamacare?
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swamp_donkey
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:52pmhe is a pervert
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Cavallo
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:56pmChuck, where do you get the sum of millions? I think you might be thinking of the atheists of the 20th century and the tens of millions butchered by Mao, Pol Pot, and Stalin. Of the 49,000 trial records of the Spanish Inquisition only 776 executions took place (between 1540 and 1700). Professor Agostino Borromeo, a historian of Catholicism at the Sapienza University in Rome, writes that about 125,000 people were tried by church tribunals as suspected heretics in Spain. Of these, about 1,200 – 2,000 were actually executed. Millions of people killed during the time periods of the inquisition or even the crusades would likely have made the world a very empty place, so we must assume your quip about “millions” is a trollish exaggeration or a mistake in a lack of historical context.
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:06pmPromoting?
Thou Shall Not… bear False Witness Against Thy Neighbor.
The President is not promoting, abortion, contraception, or homosexual sex.
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girlnurse
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:38pmI beg your pardon MARYELIZABETH: When you welcome with open arms (inot the WH) a group who’s one and ONLY claim to fame is that they have sex with the same sex you ARE promoting HOMOSEXUALITY. When you make a law for the military to go ahead and let your freak rainbow flag fly and don’t be afraid to talk about your anal sex….you ARE promoting! When you have the most liberal abortion votes EVER-even saying you will not perform life saving intervention on a baby accidently born after a late term abortion you ARE promoting that behavior! When you say if your daughters make a “mistake” and get pregnant you will not “saddle them” with that so you would let them have an abortion, when you make it a point to speak at all the planned parenthood events you can….you ARE promoting that behavior! You do know he is the President and children and people look up to his speech AND actions, right?????? Oh, jus checkin.
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MSUGeoman22
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:41pmMARYBETHELIZABETH
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:06pm
Promoting?
Thou Shall Not… bear False Witness Against Thy Neighbor.
The President is not promoting, abortion, contraception, or homosexual sex.
Seriously? I’ve read many posts by you and to hear anything that resembles moral directives come out of your mouth (technically fingers in this case) is laughable at best. If you had a grain of common sense and a moral compass that didn’t point the complete opposite direction on pretty much everything it would be easy for you to understand that apathy, in the case of Mr. Obama, is no different than acceptance. Indifference might as well be acceptance, especially given his history and his party alignment. Wake up and smell the coffee, it’s socialist-liberal-democrat blend and it’s morally objectionable garbage.
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exposejesuits
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 2:06pmYes I am told I am crazy and don’t know what I am talking about.
The Catholics are the good guys. Well I beg to differ. The Society
of Jesus sic aka the Jesuits were started in 1532 to fight Luther’s
Protestant Reformation. It has been a trail of genocide and murder
ever since. The problem I find with Catholics is they simply refuse
to read and research about the history of their own Catholic Church.
I call it complete denial. Well please read and see what some of the
greatest men in history said about the Jesuits.
http://open.salon.com/blog/lastdaysdeceptionnews/2010/07/07/quotes_on_the_jesuit_order
lildrummerboy
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:08pmGod’s hand will be against us until we all turn back to him….When they removed him from the public squares like Israel did time and again they invoked God’s wrath. We are no longer protected..do to our idolatry and greed. When a government condones unnatural relationships and other behaviors contrary to God and we don’t do anything within our power (i.e vote) we are responsible as well…enough said.
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Tickdog
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:06pmwow..
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teddrunk
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:05pmWell, it’s a start, albeit a tepid, weak one at that. Wake me up when the Catholic Church gets around to some excommunicating.
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cyntro
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:30pmIf they haven’t excommunicated Nancy, they won’t excommunicate anyone.
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:37pmOr Kathleen Sebelius.
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The Jewish Avenger
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:42pmCan they do that to the antichrist?
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MSUGeoman22
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:34pmAgreed. The truth is that a vast majority of those who claim to be of a particular Christian religion do not adhere to the system of beliefs. I’d like to see Christianity as a whole become more unified and firm on a number of issues but addressing the attitude of holding beliefs that directly contradict the faith one professes is a huge pet peeve of mine.
The fact is, religion is not something that a person is, it’s something that they believe and try to put into practice. The common misconception is that by believing in a certain religion, it makes a person a Baptist/Protestant/Lutheran/Catholic/Atheist etc. As human beings, we are incapable of being anything other than human. Most people who claim to “be” Catholic/Christian are no where close to “being” let alone even practicing Catholicism/Christianity as their particular prescribed discipline indicates.
This is a step in the right direction, but I think more is required.
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sempek1
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:03pmCourageous words and true! Catholics who rationalize voting for Obama have allowed themselves to be misled and are very, very wrong.
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:09pmNot just Catholics – ANYONE!
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weskets
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:44pmI am not Catholic, but glad to hear someone from the Catholic church finally speaking out in how the members of the Catholic faith should view ANY candidate running for public office.
In regards to the polls showing the President in the “Lead”, that is good, I have been encouraging everyone to tell pollsters that they are voting “Democratic”. This serves multiple purposes.
1) keeps POTUS from planning anything stupid if he believes he has it in the bag
2) gets the media all excited and slobbering all over themselves thinking they are right
3) in the end, let’s those running for office that they too can be mislead, so watch out, the time to fear the people has returned.
I just “Hope” that many Catholics hear Bishop Paprocki’s message and realize he is correct and “Change” the way they vote in November so this country can once again move “Foward” by returning to our Values, Rights, Freedoms and following the US Constitution.
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razhunter100
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:02pmBishop E.W. Jackson Message to Christians
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrcmTjijRS8&feature=plcp
Bishop Jackson makes a compelling case for Christians to leave the Democrat party
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Patrick1776
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:00pmFinally. Now we need Cardinal Dolan, whom I like, to explain this to the Church as clearly.
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swamp_donkey
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:05pmhe is busy riding altar boys
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RightUnite
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 3:23pm@swamp_donkey… Project much??
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jackal
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 8:51pmSwamp Donkey
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:05pm
he is busy riding altar boys
HaHaHa you sure do think about that alot?maybe to do with your name also?How many boys have you molested??????
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:59pmGood for the Bishop. If all church leaders of all denominations would speak up against this lying demon obama…..maybe the tide would completely turn and the nation would be saved. However…most religions leaders are not leaders of religion..they are politicians and have another agenda.
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UNALIEN
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:57pmObama lies, freedom dies
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TheRightBistro
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:57pmGod Bless Him and may the Holy Spirit come down on the rest of the Bishops. We definitely need to have a moral voice in this.
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johnjamison
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:06pmIf you help a felon is his crime the law holds accountable as a accompliss to the crime. What would make a christian think that voting for a BIG PRO-ABORTION politician would make there hands clean of his actions.
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CatB
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:56pmI agree … Stand AGAINST ISRAEL and with the Muslims …and you reap what you sow.
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momrules
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:20pmGod denied three times. God’s Jerusalem taken off the DNC platform. Killing babies including those that survive their attempted murder during late term abortion, promoting homosexuality/same sex marriage…………Why would any Christian, Catholic or not, vote for this man?
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cloudsofwar
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:34pm@ MOM….. your right. if you are a MARXIST you will vote for OBAMA, true AMERICANS will not.
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phillyatheist
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:56pm“places the eternal salvation of your own soul in serious jeopardy.”
it’s a good thing that nothing is eternal and soul’s don’t exist. whew, i was worried there for a minute.
this sort of hyperbole illustrates the absurdity of faith leaders. do they really think that the path to salvation goes through the voting booth? it’s akin to saying that Catholics who eat meat on Fridays during lent are hell bound. people vote for a candidate for a variety of reasons. no one should be told that their vote will condemn them to hellfire should they make a certain choice. it’s a sad commentary on the state of religion in America.
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:16pmYou’re in for a big surprise one day buddy.
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happ77
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:16pmNo but they should be told that Republicans want
you to choke on the air you breath, get poisoned
by the water you drink, throw your grandma off
a cliff, stop you from having sex, take away your
birth control, discriminate against all non white,
non wasp, wage war on women, etc, etc ,etc.
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jackact
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:45pmPhilly,
Regardless if you want to hear it or not the Catholic Church is attempting to support and preserve the Judeo-Christian ethic and its loyal followers who remain under attack in every corner of the world.
I feel bad for you that you lack faith in your life. Of course in this country you have the freedom to believe in whatever you choose. I respect that. It’s just pretty sad.
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girlnurse
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:26pmObama believes you can kill a baby up to 5 minutes before it is born and he has the most radical abortion president ever. He voted “no” on giving lfe saving care to a baby who is accidentally born alive afterhaving a late term abortion. I’m sure if Hitler was still around you would support him PHILLY and expect to have no consequences for your actions and choices? Because after all, it’s just a bundle of cells and tissue ha?
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inblack
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:54pm@PHILLYATHEIST
Yeah ******, obviously he wasn’t talking to a godless animal like you.
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katiedidrn
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 6:36pmPhilly, if you had a friend who was alcholic would you encourage him to drink? If you did encourage him or not stop him and he/she became intoxicated, drove and killed himself/herself and/or someone else would you feel guilty. Maybe if you had been a better friend you could have prevented this tragedy from happening. Same with the Bishop; he is trying to protect his fellow Catholics, many of whom may not know what the Dems stand for. He is educating them on the Democratice/ Obama policies so that they can vote their conscience. So that if, Obama gets into the White House again, Please God Forbid, these people will not have the sins of what is to transcribe on their consciene because it was their vote that gave the administration the power to mandate and take tax dollars from those who consiencouly object to abortion, denial of services ( euthanasia under Obamacare) ,etc. The Bishop is living his religious convictions and teaching the work of Christ. Athieists have consciouses as well. katiedid
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Banshee1967
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 7:37pmBravo Philly! This sort of BS from the bishop is the worst kind, trying to scare people into voting for who the church wants. This is another reason that churches of ALL denominations need to be taxed at the highest possible rate. If they want to remain as tax free leeches they need to stay out of politics.
By the way, do churches count in Romney’s 47%? They should.
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intrepidorator
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 9:13pmIm sure that Obama agrees with you about souls not existing, he’s just too big of a coward to profess his insanity.
I used to avoid making statements like “Obama is Evil” but it is increasingly obvious that he is the epitome of evil.
Hitler didn’t think he was doing anything evil when he took peoples guns way, just like Obama believes that he is doing good deeds when he steals your rights. Obama has begun assasinating American citizens without even giving them a trial. Obama is evil. Obama makes fun of christianity while pretending to be one and defends islam while pretending to not be one. Obama is evil.
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Gonzo
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:56pmI should be a Bishop…I’ve been saying to hell with Democrats for years! Kiss my ring Wango.
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KevINtampa
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:21pmWitty, to the point, and seriously funny as always. Bravo! You here all weekend?
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Wango
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 12:51pmEven in my absence I haunt you. Just like Jesus.
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M13
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 3:43pmIt’s your stupidity that haunts me Wango.
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DOra Glasberg
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 7:42pmRomney is a BISHOP.
But they watered his title down to Pastor as not offend, whoever.
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:54pmIt is absolutely impossible for anyone with even a hint of a soul to vote Democrat. In fact, I predict that in the near future anyone registering as a Democrat will be required to have “666″ tatooed onto his/her forehead.
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LeadNotFollow
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:53pm…
Bishop Paprocki said, “Because a vote for a candidate who promotes actions or behaviors that are intrinsically evil and gravely sinful, makes you morally complicit, and places the eternal salvation of your own soul in serious jeopardy.”
I totally agree. Thanks Bishop Paprocki, for having the spine to say it.
God bless you.
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Sharon Rose
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:52pm!00% true. More religious leaders need to speak up and tell the truth.
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cloudsofwar
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:37pm@ sharon…. i’ll second that.
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Common Sense 24
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:52pmThat probably won’t go over well. People anymore generally don’t like to hear the truth; especially if it doesn’t condone what they are doing.
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RightUnite
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:58pmI imagine black folks won’t appreciate hearing this either!
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/27/Black-Bishop-Rips-Dem-Party
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smokeysmoke
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:50pmfinally some people are saying what were all thinking
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wjbtms
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:49pmThis great. It is time that a Catholic Bishop has spoken out about the options we have in this election. There is a difference and yes there activities which can be classified as “EVIL” and those that support those activities should not be elected to office…..
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capitalismrocks
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:48pmThe Bishop is completely right. To vote for Obama and Dem’s means you would be going directly against Catholic teachings against abortion and infant murder. The Dem’s and Obama are in direct violation of separation of Church and State and they are directly interfering with Catholic teachings by demanding that birth control and abortions be funded by Catholics. Now many will counter – oh well, there are Catholics who pick and choose what they will and won’t observe, and yes, one cannot deny that. However for those who do properly adhere to Catholic teachings but are still forced to permit things against Catholic faith and are forced to pay taxes to contribute to things which go against Catholic faith, the Dem’s and Obama are the last, worst people that Catholics should want to see in government, especially given their embracing Communists which are hell bent on the murder and elimination of the Catholic faith, along with muslims who will not tolerate ANY faith but their own.
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USALOVER2011
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:52pmThank you Capitalismrocks. I agree with you 100%…Also, God Bless you Bishop Thomas John Paprocki. Thank you for speaking up…We need great leaders like you who would speak up against this Evil administration. God Bless this GREAT COUNTRY, and may God GUIDE RomneyRyan all the way to the WHITE HOUSE in Nov 6, 2012!!!
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exposejesuits
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:24pmThe Vatican invented Islam, to kill Christians and non-Catholics “The Vatican wanted to create a messiah for the Arabs, someone they could raise up as a great leader, a man with charisma whom they could train, and eventually unite all the non-Catholic Arabs behind him, creating a mighty army that would ultimately capture Jerusalem for the pope.
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capitalismrocks
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 3:34pmexposejesuits – there is a strap on the back of your tinfoil hat, loosen it up a bit, you’ve cut off the blood supply to your brain again.
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girlnurse
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:16pmNever mind going against “the Catholic church”…how bout going against CHRIST and HIS teachings? Have a relationship with HIM and take up your cross daily and follow HIM and HIM only. Keep HIS commandments which are:
Love the Lord with all your heart, mind, and soul
Love your neighbor as yourself
Go out into all the world and preach the gospel
Thats it! Now IF you love your neighbor as yourself, would you steal from them or kill them?
For the Kingdom of heaven rests on these commandments.
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USALOVER2011
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 5:35pm@ Expose….You’re been reading off of this website? . http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2006/04apr/catholicislam.html?!?!?!?!?!? Go figure…. MORON!!!!!
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Tri-ox
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 12:46pmIt is good to hear a Catholic leader speak this obvious TRUTH.
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inblack
Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:59pm@EXPOSEJESUITS
Your stupidity is noted. Thanks for making an a-ss of yourself and giving us all a good laugh.
Satan (allah) actually created Mohammad, the antichrist.
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