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Conservative’s Anti-Jihad Subway Ad Leads to New Policies: NYC Authority Can Now Ban Ads That Could ‘Incite or Provoke Violence’

Sep. 28, 2012 1:49pm

The epic battle between American Freedom Defense Initiative executive director and blogger Pamela Geller and The Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) culminated with a court decision that forced the transit authority to permit the display of controversial ads about radical Islam. But the story didn’t end there. As TheBlaze reported this morning, Geller’s case caused the MTA to rethink the manner in which it handles First Amendment issues, leading to the adoption of some potentially-controversial measures.

(Related: Read TheBlaze’s initial report about the MTA’s changes here)

On Friday, TheBlaze spoke with a spokesperson who confirmed some of the details surrounding the case, while clarifying the new changes that passed on Thursday. As noted, one of the emergent provisions that was added into the public company’s advertising standards in the wake of the Geller debate allows the MTA to deny ads it believes could incite violence (this was not mentioned in the press release the agency put out about the changes).

As previously noted, a document, reflecting yesterday’s changes, was provided by the MTA to TheBlaze this morning. It highlights the transit authority’s advertising standards and reads, in part, “The licensee (‘advertising contractor’) shall not display or maintain any advertisement that falls within one or more of the following categories.” One of the category sections reads:

The advertisement, or any information contained in it, is directly adverse to the commercial or administrative interests of the MTA or is harmful to the morale of MTA employees or contains material the display of which the MTA reasonably foresees would incite or provoke violence or other immediate breach of the peace, and so harm, disrupt, or interfere with safe, efficient, and orderly transit operations.

It is the portion presented in bold that is new to the regulations. It’s inclusion is interesting for a number of reasons. On the surface, it appears oddly placed in the list of grievances that could lead to the banning of an advertisement. Furthermore, there is some ambiguity regarding what led to the inclusion of the “violence” reference in the first place.

Here’s a screen shot from the official document:

Conservatives Anti Jihad Subway Ad Leads to New MTA Policies: NYC Authority Can Now Ban Ads That Could Incite or Provoke Violence

A portion of the new advertising standards, with the highlighted "violence" reference (Photo Credit: MTA)

In an e-mail reply, MTA spokesperson Aaron Donovan told TheBlaze that the change was among the “outstanding issues” that the agency was looking to tackle in the new regulatory document.

“Since we hadn’t updated our advertising standards in 15 years, we used this opportunity to address several outstanding issues or potential hypothetical situations,” he wrote. “This is one of them.”

TheBlaze responded with additional questions about the motivations for the change, asking how, in particular, the MTA’s court battle with Geller impacted the new restriction on violent ads. Donovan responded, admitting that the dilemma did play an integral role in the decision to make the change.

“The ad, and more specifically the litigation surrounding it, caused us to think about a variety of potential scenarios and review our standards more carefully within a prism of First Amendment law,” he commented.

Considering that the MTA has made its opposition to the ad’s message known in the past — and taking into account continued calls for bans on blasphemy and offensive messages — the natural question is: Will this new regulation serve as a backdoor method for banning controversial ads that take aim at specific faiths, like Islam?

Conservatives Anti Jihad Subway Ad Leads to New MTA Policies: NYC Authority Can Now Ban Ads That Could Incite or Provoke Violence

Photo Credit: American Freedom Defense Initiative/ABC News

To gain a better perspective, TheBlaze asked who would be involved in the process of defining which messages incite violence and what the metrics for doing so would be.

“It would go through the same process we currently use to determine whether ads meet the overall guidelines,” Donovan explained. “Ads are submitted to our advertising contractor, CBS Outdoor, for posting and approval.”

Once the ads are submitted, Donovan said that CBS then decides which ones need to be scrutinized more closely to ensure they meet guidelines. Considering the other MTA regulation that was adopted on Thursday — the requirement that political, religious and morality-based ads include a disclaimer separating their ideals from the agency’s — the spokesperson said that CBS would also be involved in flagging ads for that purpose.

“The MTA’s final determination is made by the MTA’s Director of Real Estate, in consultation with CBS Outdoor (our ad contractor), the MTA’s General Counsel, the Chairman, and others he may choose to consult with,” he continued, highlighting how potentially-violent ads will be assessed.

Still, considering these elements, the issue needs further exploration. The language seems fluid enough to present further First Amendment battles in the future — especially considering the guidelines’ subjective nature.

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  • Ghandi was a Republican
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:26pm

    That’s the entire nature of the anti-jihad campaign. To bring attention to their deadly tactics and to say NO!. What’s offensive about that, and to who? The same people who are going to attack anyway. That’s what jihad is. Who cares if they are offended? Ignoring it doesn’t make it go away or deter it. It’s a war on free society. We are engaged whether we like it or not. These people openly state their objective is to exterminate my children. I want them dead, not appeased!

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    • Duddio
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:50pm

      That’s exactly right! Civilization Jihad is making enormous headway in the US while we are focused on Al Qaida overseas… Frank Gaffney is all over it, I’m shocked he wasn’t featured prominently in The Project:

      http://muslimbrotherhoodinamerica.com

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    • 1947
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 3:13pm

      The Brotherhood has made to America…….NO MORE 1st Amendment……America has lose it

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    • capitalismrocks
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 3:24pm

      I guess if they choose to replace “Savages” with something else “Nations threatening to murder and destroy another country, culture and race… side with Israel” and make the wording ambiquious in and of itself, then they’d have a difficult time trying to stop them…. this is all going to be a game of getting the truth out and the fact is, the liberals have made an art and a science on selling their destructive methods to people in candy coated, sugary-sweet, for the good of all, messages. Therefor, the same methods must be used against the liberal agenda AND against the further spreading of the global cancer of islam.

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    • SFALLC
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 3:30pm

      Islamomonger – a person who attempts to stir up fear and deceive or spread something that is usually under a false pretense “al-Taqiyya” The use of fear to influence the opinions and actions of others. Terrorist Acts are a type of action used by Islamomongers. Fear to impress there will upon another.

      Allah-monger – person or group who uses words like islamophobia to push a political agenda and lie about the truth of what they are doing for the betterment of their scheme. This is permitted under “al-Taqiyya”. The use of fear as a means as a subject is often exaggerated, and the pattern of fear mongering is usually one of repetition, in order to continuously reinforce the intended effects of this tactic, sometimes in the form of a vicious circle

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    • tipofthespear42
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 3:46pm

      They are INSANE if they think for one nano-second that “WeThe People” are going to put up with this B.S.!! It goes COMPLETELY AGAINST “OUR CONSITITION AND OUR LAWS”!!!
      You would THINK that New York, of ALL places would use their freakn COMMON SENSE!!!

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    • DProffitt
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 3:53pm

      I see we have all been doing our homework…this has been a long time coming and organizations like faith freedom.org ( started by former Muslims have been voices in the wilderness..lets join our voices to theirs and see if the world can hear us all no. Thank you dubious for the link with even more facts to fight with.

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    • Norm D. Plume
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 3:59pm

      … against our constitution and our laws, eh?

      Keep on votin’ for Romney, guys. Mmm hmm.

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:00pm

      Shows the deperation of the anti arab genocidsts;after 10 years of war ,dem arabs are not only still there,they demonstrate in their streets ,shouting pro osama slogans, on 9-11 no less. Our puppets are being over thrown and these genocidsts, who when our invasions into iraq just started-had visions of genocide dancing in their heads.saw no need to pay to put up insulting ads then. Now that’s all these disgruntled frustrated genocidists have-ads they have to pay for. I’d. love to see an add that says ;OPPOSE CANNABALISM,OPPOSE ISRAELI OCCUPATION, SUPPORT PALESTINIANS! Of course american muslims are one of the most peaceful groups in america so this add just exposess the desperation of these 21stc anti-semitic genocidists [against arab/muslims this time].

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    • BreeZee
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:12pm

      Ha Ha NY gets what they deserve. 1st they came for the salt and ny said nothing, then they came for the 16oz soda and ny said nothing then they took away baby formula and the ny said nothing then they took away parental knowledge of kids and birth control and still ny said nothing and now they are regulating ny’ers speech and still ny says nothing…you get what you deserve ny…

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    • lchick1300
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:20pm

      How about the people who would be incited to commit violence learn how to control themselves? Why do all of us have to wall around on eggshells and cow tow to violent people who use any excuse to commit violent acts? This is how fascists gain control. If you’re offended, too bad, suck it up. That’s what the rest of us have to do.

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    • capitalismrocks
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:45pm

      @SFALLC – Islamaphobic, a term created by the Muslim Brotherhood to try to stop the spreading of truth about the real intentions of Islam.

      Muslim Brotherhood, a 100 year old group bent on the destruction of the West, and all other religions to place everyone under Islam and Sharia Law.

      Islam – is not a religion, it is a political doctrine of subjugation to dominate all people’s of the world under totalitarian rule.

      ‘nough said !!!

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    • Mulder1
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 5:06pm

      Yes, the gutless liberals in NYC have submitted to Islam again. Dhimmi liberals and traitorous left wingers support Islamic militants. We need politicians who will stand up for our freedom of speech.

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    • SFALLC
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 5:39pm

      Islam-O-mongers

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    • TH30PH1LUS
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:11pm

      In the insane asylum called New York, who needs a poster as an excuse to commit violence?

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    • Seasoldier
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 6:19pm

      Obviously, under this new regulation, if the MTA has any Muslim employees, they can claim an ad hurts their “morale” and the ad will be quashed. Will the same hold true for anti-Catholic ads, or anti-”creationist” ads or anti-abortion ads? How about ads that dare to use words such as “Christmas” or “Easter” or “God”? How about an ad that hurts the “morale” of and Obama supporter? Will they be refused by CBS and the MTA? Why not just eliminate all advertising in MTA facilities and vehicles? Then they won’t have to make any decisions at all. Of course, they also won’t get the advertising revenue I’m sure they crave.

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    • cantbelieveallthisgarbagecouldhappenwhodoislap
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:25pm

      There are many that back you,enough said

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    • WarMunger_Al
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:44pm

      Soon as they put “support Israel” it would be banned, as that in itself could spark riots. If they said something about christians it would be ok. NYC has been a communist country for a while now, you have no constitutional rights while within city limits.

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    • WarMunger_Al
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:50pm

      tip of the spear-
      America has already put up with it. This country allows its rights to be ignored on every single amendment. Your speech, your right to bare arms, your right to be free of unreasonable search and seizure, etc….Most of you voted for the restrictions in the first place. Only 3 republicans in Congress vote for the constitution. Almost all of the “Tea party” republicans are turn coats and traitors, voting to indefinitely detain you, spy on you without warrants, and they allowed Obama to sign executive orders giving him the power to press gang you into service in time of “emergency”, to seize your businesses and your food supply. Not a word from the supposed “tea party” patriots in congress.

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    • XScramblerX
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:56pm

      I WILL NOT COMPLY!
      One Nation under GOD!

      TEA!

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 7:56pm

      We tried. It’s over.

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    • starman70
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 8:03pm

      Any excuse will do.

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    • Mikey_N
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 8:19pm

      Very well said. Thank you.

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    • The Gooch
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 8:31pm

      Terrorism (or the threat thereof) wins. Hooray.

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    • bobbin4apples
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 9:01pm

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6Xx24DfTpY&feature=relmfu great stuff

      “Occupier” Thanked Former Soviet Citizen for “Converting” Him to Capitalism, Pro-Israel, Pro-USA

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    • WATER-THE-TREE
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 9:32pm

      IT IS US OR THEM, SIMPLE AS THAT- They do not like our freedom of speech – We do not like them telling us that we cannot have freedom of speech….. This is a confrontation that cannot be avoided in which there is only ONE SOLUTION – IT IS US OR THEM, now we could chill and live and let live, but it is muslims that will not chill, they are of the devil and it is his will that they do.

      IT IS US OR them !!!!!!!!!!!!! F them!

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    • WATER-THE-TREE
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 9:43pm

      This has already been done to the English!

      Ephraim has mixed himself among the peoples; aliens have devoured their strength. But he does not know it;

      This is happening now to us!!! HOS 7: 8-

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    • WATER-THE-TREE
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 9:54pm

      Let’s face it, OUR blood will have to be spilled, let’s just make sure that they spill more and that it will bring about the desired outcome, let’s not let it be wasted. We need to have the resolve of our founding fathers who were willing to die for what they wanted. Our enemy sure is willing!

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    • WATER-THE-TREE
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 10:15pm

      The muslims would think twice if the woman that tried to stop her from spray painting the poster had took her camera and smashed her face in!

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 10:54pm

      @rose ellen
      “Shows the deperation of the anti arab genocidsts;after”
      .______________________________.
      Rose it looks like you’ve taken some seminars while in Egypt and expanded your chest beating hair pulling charges. Loved the arab genocidsts although not in the way you wanted, because I agree that arabs are genocidsts as they proven time and again. Ooops

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    • SUNTZU
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 11:37pm

      using the words
      New York,and Common Sense in the same paragraph
      could Incite violence
      Dont do it.

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    • pitboss711
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 1:38am

      I’m so sick and tired of these liberal cowards bending over to kiss muslim butt. During World War II, you sure didn’t hear or see anyone saying “let’s not say anything to offend Hitler”. Liberals are a party of pansy a– wimps.

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    • poorrichard09
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 7:23am

      No person or thing can incite someone to violence-it’s all in how you chose to react to it, true? Their hate-based “religion” tells them to react with violence.
      We still haven’t seen the riots, killing etc. over the “pisschrist” and other offenses against Christianity, and we won’t because that is not what Christ taught.

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    • jst1425
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 9:20am

      I’m tell’n ya’ll…just watch this….

      http://WWW.TWWUS.COM

      It’s happen’n right in front of ya’ll….unless your one of the “47%” that just want to be taken care of. Now let me help ya’ll understand this…

      There are a portion of the “47%” that are dependent on the government because this was the plan, i.e. retirees, disabled, etc. THEN….there are those who just say **** it…if the government will pay me to just stay home and add to the obesity problems then why not!

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    • TheMajority
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 9:44am

      I can clearly see it is muslim actions that cause you to think violently. Their argument gives a violent crime justification, but it will not work for you or any American who is trying to save our Republic. It is vital not to forget, even if our courts do, who ever starts the violence are the murderers. Think deportation instead, and stop the war from happening here in front of our homes. Words never killed anybody, murderers do. Let them hold what they think is a high honor, of being murderers—somewhere else. We can defend our right to speak, and ourselves best—by deportation IMO.

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    • moosern
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:07am

      @warmunger, actually it was two republicans and one democrat, Keith Ellison. A Muslim.

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:55am

      One persons deadly tactics are anothers freedomn fighting! You know that-you’re just mad they’re still there in their homelands resisting american and or israeli invasions occupations, puppet regimes etc.All you do here is rail impotenetly against the reality that the world and its people can”t be controlled by your military!And pay for hate speech adds that have to be modified as your elites won’t let you say what you really want to say.Hence you must be really frustrated. Dem arabs at least say what they mean as they took to the streets on 9-11 shouingt pro osama slogans.The pakistani police killed them for it, but thankfully the egyptian regime let them express their freedom of speech. The world does not belong to us and that’s the source of you anti semitc genocidists[against arab muslims this time] outrage.”they burned our flags on 9-11-whine ,whine ,whine” maybe 9-11 will become for them their day of freedom-the start of the new millenium -the peoples century where puppet dictators eventually toppled and people could take to the streets to honor the one who launched their freedom agenda!

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    • Sharlene
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:56am

      Your comment is EXACTLY ON TRAGET. Savage is as Savage does. Go to many, universities, and try to get a PRO ISRAEL speaker on campus. It’s next to, or almost next to IMPOSSIBLE, because the MUSLIM STUDENT SOCIETIES WILL BAN, BLOCK, DISRUPT, SUPPRESS, FREE SPEECH.

      I don’t know why the universities do nothing, or, almost nothing to stop these actions by the muslim
      societies since much of the university operating dollars come from FEDERALLY BACKED (government), STUDENT LOANS, and are under the federal laws (government), against using hate speech.

      If the universities do almost nothing to stop this hate speech why then should MTA, also a government run business try to suppress this on their subway cars and stations.

      THIS SIGN SHOULD STAY EXACTLY WHERE IT IS WITHOUT THE GRAFFITI SPRAYED ALL OVER IT.

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    • wildjew
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 12:04pm

      Apparently Glenn Beck and the Blaze are afraid of these savages. The question in my e-mail alert was, “Will this add destroy free speech?”

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    • The Gooch
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 1:02pm

      rose-ellen
      The Islamicists are not fighting for “freedom.” This number gets REAL old from you apologists and appeasers.
      Oh, humor me. What “freedoms” are the zealots pursuings? The freedom to make others submit to their will? That’s quite the stretch with your logic argument.
      You’re not even entertaining to make fun of anymore.

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    • WarMunger_Al
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 2:52pm

      Rose ellen-
      when you target civilians you are a terrorist. A freedom fighter attacks military/ government targets.
      Check out this response to islamo censorship.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCXHPKhRCVg

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    • bdsconserv
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 4:27pm

      very well put!

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    • sixtysix
      Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:29pm

      My question for the Egyptian woman who was defacing the poster is: why did she identify with the barbarian and not the civilized man? Same as when people called the food stamp remark racist. Why, if they are not racist, do they think a food stamp recipient must be minority? The answer is, they know who they are.

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  • blackstone22
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:25pm

    no one wants to touch the jihad hot potato.
    Clearly the MTA has created a backdoor to censorship, but given the climate of intimidation emanating straight from Obama and the White House, first by demanding google remove the video( which google refused to remove) Obama’s apologist speech at the U.N. ( no one should slander the prophet), the lies about the events surrounding the Libyan terrorist attack, and now the scapegoating arrest of the egyptian born filmmaker on flimsy probation violations, violations that would not normally garner such attention from the courts, you really can’t blame the MTA for not wanting to take the heat alone, especially when their own government is trampling First Amendment Rights and siding with censorship and repression. The MTA has a tough job already, the New York City subway is a jungle, an urban war zone, everyday is a battle down there. I can understand their not wanting to inflame the crazies, but in America we have freedom of speech, and to capitulate to censorship is wrong even in the New York City Subway.

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    • Cranios
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:48pm

      Hitler ought to have proclaimed his ideology a religion of peace – he would have won the war for sure if he had!

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    • NeoFan
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:58pm

      Google is doing exactly what it has been ordered to do. They will keep the video up so it may be used as an excuse for further violence and attacks.

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    • toto
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:25pm

      Interesting that Obama tried to get the video taken down when apparently someone connected to Stanley Inc. (BIG government information technology contractor), put the video up on Youtube on Sept. 11 and had for weeks apparently been dickering with changing the name of the video. Check out Proof Positive on YouTube, sounds very far fetched until you start stacking up what has happened since the release of the video in early July. Questions for the media, find out exactly who put up the video out of Alexandria, VA on a hyperlink on Sept. 11, 2012, and WHY? Many it’s nothing…and maybe not.

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    • neidermeyer
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:29pm

      NYers should print and place their own VERY OFFENSIVE bills in and around the subway system.

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    • WATER-THE-TREE
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 10:33pm

      NEOFAN
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:58pm
      Google is doing exactly what it has been ordered to do. They will keep the video up so it may be used as an excuse for further violence and attacks.

      You understand!

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    • Alessandre
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 1:32am

      The NYC subway isn’t a war zone & there are no regular battles there. I lived in NYC until 2 years ago. My closest friends live there now & ride the subway every day. Since Giulliani cleaned it up when he was mayor, the subway has been a fast, safe, though increasingly expensive, mode of travel. Even the wealthy use it because of the speed (traffic is horrible in Manhattan). Mona Eltahawy committed vandalism. Graffiti artists aren’t appreciated in NYC: they’re arrested & sent to jail regardless their affiliation or politics. She also assaulted another woman; I hope “Pamela” presses charges, I would. Ms. Eltahawy broke the law. she wasn’t forced. She deserves to go to jail. The MTA may try to wimp out & avoid the 1st amendment thinking NYC is fair ground but it’s not Dearborn, MI. I don’t think they’ll get away w/ a policy change.

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  • dktampa
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:25pm

    Lesson: behave violently when provoked. Conservatives and Christians are routinely inundated with provocation. It has become liberal sport.

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 9:57am

      All you anti arab/muslim genocidists have left are bullying tactics.But you’re also cowards as you have to modify your hate speech which must be frustrating. You can’t say all arabs, all muslims, islam itself so you have to resort to extremists muslims, radical muslims, jihadists muslims etc.You have to qualify your hate speech whether in your ads ,or onFox or on the radio. Must be frustrating for you. Those arabs however have no qualms about shouting pro osama slogans, hoisting alquada like flags and burning us flags-on 9-11 no less.All that’s left of the post 9-11 blowback attack which gave you a totalizing good vs. evil fantasy of total war and genocide[how dare they attack us.didn't god tell these people that when we kill its good when they kill its bad] ,after 10 years of war is modified hate speech which you have to pay for to express on the subway walls.The arab uprisings to topple our puppets continues AND after all the murder and mayhem we launched in their lands-there they are burning our flags!The world and its people do not belong to the americans or tyranical israelis no matter how mighty your military -as you see.So mumble stuff under your breadth [modified hate speech ads] while muslims walk your streets in full muslim garb and if you lay a hand on one you’ll be hit with a hate crime.

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    • stablepar
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:21am

      christaphobia is on a rampage in this world. maybe we should take samual jackson’s advice and wake the f*** up

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    • The Gooch
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 1:21pm

      So, R-E, you really hate the Jews and all those “chest beating” U.S. citizens more than you adore Muslims.
      Yeah, let’s talk a little more about hate crimes….
      You seem almost giddy or at least smugly celebratory in what appears to be a move in the direction repressive zealots wish to go: A ban on free and open speech regardless of one’s “precious” feelings.
      As long as the “proper” people are hurt, yes?
      You’re no saint. Just another bully.

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  • LeadNotFollow
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:25pm

    …
    If they are going to ban ads that could incite or provoke violence, then the ads for the movie “Django Unchained” should be banned.
    It’s coming out in December. That movie may very well cause Black on White violence.

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    • Ghandi was a Republican
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:29pm

      Just in time to add to the list of ‘crisis’ obama intends to exploit to initiate martial law (Contingency op).
      Could it be more obvious we will look back saying “told ya so”? We have 4 years of “told ya so” already.

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    • BJC
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:36pm

      I guess the people that don’t eat meat can now deface hamburger ads?

      I guess Christians can now deface atheist ads?

      I guess Christians can now deface Family Planning ads?

      I guess we can now deface any ad “WE” deem offensive?

      Good to know! I’m very offended by poltical ads, ads with Obama, any ad that has Mooslems.

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      BJC  
    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:46pm

      I guess we are down to defining what would provoke violence or incite riots, now. They may as well just ban ALL forms of advertising as anyone could say they were provoked.

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    • The Gooch
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 8:35pm

      Anonymous T. Irrelevant,
      I REALLY dislike McDonald’s radio ads and I’m done with the GEICO gecko. So I can have those ads pulled to protect my precious feelings, yes?
      Oh, what a beautiful Pandora’s Box we’re opening. Paying attention lawyers? I’ll bet you are!!! (Wink! Wink!).
      We have officially collectively lost our minds and our balls.

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  • SquidVetOhio
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:23pm

    Lesson learned:

    Conservatives need to start violently protesting liberals signs.

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    • atechgeek
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 3:07pm

      Erase Freedom of speech : Check

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 10:36pm

      ATECHGEEK, no, hypocritical much?

      Protesting is actually a part of it. Now, violently, granted, that is not that civil, but what is good for a goose is good for a gander.

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  • cdn1979
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:22pm

    this is not hindering freedom of speech in any way. you can walk around with that sign, put on your t shirt, your front lawn and no one can say anything. if a corporation, establishment, company, does not want to accept your money to put up that sign, they do not have to. that is their right.

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    • NotSmart
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:47pm

      However, they can be exposed by having similar protests at other ads thereby holding up traffic the same way they suggest this ad does/would/may. If they refuse accept that the same result was from a contrary ad and they don’t ban remove/it , having experienced the same result then they are exposed as discriminating. It’s easy to expose/defeat.

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    • tettnanger
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 3:14pm

      CDN1979, that may be true for a private entity, but the MTA is government and as such, if they were to deny an ad due to a political viewpoint, that would be in violation of free speech.

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    • Fred Zarguna
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 3:20pm

      Not in this case. Public agencies and public accommodations CANNOT engage in prior restraint of free speech. If the MTA decides to defend the policy, the MTA will go to court, and the MTA will lose again; that is why they lost in the first place. This is exactly what liberals always do: demand that we conservatives and libertarians respect the law, but when I decision goes against them, ignore the case law, fight it in court, lose, make cosmetic changes and repeat the cycle.

      This is nothing more than lawlessness. The MTA has already been told what their legal obligations are under the Bill of Rights. They need to stop denying the First Amendment rights of advertisers with whom they disagree.

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    • nurseheidi
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 10:31pm

      Just until they place us under UN res 1618 which Hillary has already indicated she likes. If and when they will see Jihad.

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    • JustPeachy
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:59am

      CDN, do you honestly believe it will STAY that way?!?

      T-Shirts are sometimes “banned” in public schools for crying out loud!

      Freedom of speech IS being attacked–BIG TIME! For all our sakes, PLEASE WAKE UP.

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    • Ken2kilo
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 1:34pm

      CDN: Bingo!!

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  • Ken2
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:22pm

    Who says Obama doesn’t get things done? In just six short months he’s eliminated both provisions of the 1st Amendment. What a guy!

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  • drphil69
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:16pm

    So apparently Douschberg Bloomnuts supports Gihad.

    Is he the definition of a self-hating Jew??

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  • houx
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:15pm

    Here is what I have to say, ” I am getting naked”. Will that be considered insighting exciting violence?

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  • Xiccarph
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:14pm

    Anyone believe if the ad had read something like “In any war between Believers and Non-believers, support the peace and acceptance spoken of by the Prophet. Support Islam and Sharia. Defeat intolerance and hatred.”, that the MTA would ban it? I’d guess not.

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    • jblaze
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:21pm

      I like the sign….it should be on every billboard, bus, train, plane, Tshirt and car bumper in America. Maybe someone would get the picture!!!!

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    • spirited
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 12:59am

      That is an excellent idea !

      >People may start asking, “What’s that mean?”…..pay attention….and vote Obama & his gang out.

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  • Ragnars Repos
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:09pm

    This is the other side to the ‘social safety net’ coin that conservatives love so much.

    Want your Medicare, your ‘safety from terrorists’, your food stamps and your Social Security conservatives? Well, in time you get the tyranny that, in this universe, goes right along with it.

    Governmnet ‘help’ always becomes citizen slavery.

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  • Hipnotiklee
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:08pm

    In the furture all they need to do is line strike the word “violence” and insert word/words of choice, it’s what progressives typically do for more control.

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  • BehindTheMouth
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:06pm

    We are now in a NAZI state. Time to get busy.

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  • BrianDTexan
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:06pm

    So the art exhibit that features “Piss Christ” is OK, but not this FUNY. Glad I don’t live there any more… too many sardines in one can.

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  • izukiddin
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:02pm

    We must not allow ourselves to be dumbed down to the point where that a word or idea is responsible for a violent reaction of another. People are responsible for their actions because of the free-will were given by God

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    • jodi
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:36pm

      Looked up the definition of jihad….had multiple meanings ,can anyone explain the way terrorist define it,that is what is trying to be discovered and discussed,the conversation the exchange of ideas to get a better understanding ,if you describe jihad as a inter struggle against sin as defined by some, than they are inline with other faiths that say man is enemy to nature and continues to better himself through personal responsibility and self control….

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  • momrules
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:02pm

    Let’s bottom line this crap……..the Muslim Brotherhood, C.A.I.R and the Obama administration got to MTA and said cut it our or ELSE.

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  • PATTY HENRY
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:01pm

    WELL, that violent display of that stupid woman and her spray can worked just as you planned, eh NYC AUTHORITY?

    GIVE ME A BREAK!!! You all had better HOPE ROMNEY GETS ELECTED or you can
    kiss ALL of our FREEDOMS goodbye.

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    • BadDog-NoBiscuit
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:24pm

      While I hope and pray that Romney wins the White House, we will still have a rocky road ahead. This particular issue is a State issue and I don’t think a change of direction in the Administration goals will easily overcome the course we have been set on for the last five or six years…

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    • bethsioux
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 3:02am

      Absolutely.
      But does NOONE even think to charge that AWFUL woman with vandalism–it DOES cost us in the long run.
      That may sound nutty, but there is ZERO common sense ANYWHERE in this country, and it really irks me as people just walk away lowering our standards for civility and heaven knows WHAT it does to the children trying to grow up, learn,and be the generation of the near future whi will raise a new generation AND take care of us!

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  • BatesclanMary
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:01pm

    Hear we go on our way to any anti Islam thing is against the law. Isn’t that what the UN is pushing?
    O

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  • semihardrock
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:00pm

    Welcome to Communism!

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:00pm

    Here we go with one more assault on civil rights and liberites by NYC…when will the madness end?

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    • GaryInTheMiddle
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:03pm

      When the liberal nut jobs aren’t in control of the situation.

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:04pm

      It will be done when Jesus Returns in glory.

      Lucifer is ramping up for his last fight. He goes down, but he goes down swinging. That means pain and suffering for the saints.

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    • katzkiner
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:31pm

      This will end when 240 million Americans DEMAND their freedom back. It will not.be given back. It must be taken back. It is the other 70 million minority calling the shots now. Stand together and.end this oppression. Freedom has never been free.

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    • Max jones
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 8:19pm

      ELENA…..I love you…..you child of God, you. Keep on hittin’ ‘em with the truth….every minute of every day.

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  • paperpushermj
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:59pm

    All right I’ll ask the Question:
    What crystal ball will they use to predict what words will invoke violence?
    If they look back in time and see that a certain community is prone to violence are they then not giving veto power over this subject to that community, to the detriment of the less volatile Communities?

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  • The-Monk
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:58pm

    I would think that a “Subway Is Closed” sign might incite a riot.

    Better not put any of those up…..

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:15pm

      Or…..

      “Sunoco Gas special; $5.25 per gallon”

      “Get 12 Dunkin Donuts for $18″

      “Coke a Cola special; $15 per 12 pack”

      Can’t allow any ads like that… might incite a riot.

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    • Hubie337
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:46pm

      Better not see:

      Sorry, all out of Obama Phones. Next shipment in 2 weeks.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 5:16pm

      @Hubie337

      Yep, that would do it. : )

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    • RightThinking1
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 7:38am

      Thus it begins. PC->’Hate Speech’->Lost 1st Amendment

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    • RightThinking1
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 7:40am

      “No more free cheese”

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    • JustPeachy
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:01am

      The-Monk–I LOVE your posts!!! LOL

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    • JustPeachy
      Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:10am

      I like this thread and wanna “play”. . . ;-) More signs they’d best not put up:

      OUT of gas

      OUT of money

      OUT of welfare checks and food stamps

      NOT Hiring

      OUT of food

      And take your pick–keep BOTH of these out of the headlines of any news paper, internet publication, etc:

      OBAMA WINS!

      ROMNEY WINS!

      Any of these might cause a riot, after all!

      Oh and how about:

      NO Sugar-Laden drinks PERMITTED

      NO Guns Allowed – ANYWHERE (except by “Government Officials”)

      NO Political talk, religious talk, discussion/discourse of ANY kind ALLOWED

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  • floridareader
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:56pm

    Any time soon New York officials will dictate how many times new-yorkers can inhale the pricy air that have intoxicated their minds. Statue of Liberty is looking at NY with nostalgia of those distant times when people used to dream on the New City as a symbol of freedom.

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  • Cemoto78
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:55pm

    Cowards. I suggest they watch both episodes of “The Project” and get back to us.

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  • Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
    Posted on September 28, 2012 at 1:52pm

    Yip, coke could cause a riot with a cold 16 oz. glass of cola displayed in full color.

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    • GumRock
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 2:11pm

      I’m A Pepsi Man , if that Coke Sigh remains up . I Will Riot the Hell out of this Place !
      I’m offended and Hurt by the Intolerance of that Coke Sign.
      its an Insult to my religion, and the color of my Skin.
      Ohh Yes ,, I’m Incited !
      Tear down the Wall !

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    • tipofthespear42
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 4:59pm

      ALL AMERICANS should get “INCITED” over the OBAMA-CARE FIASCO that was rammed down our throats in a backroom deal!!!!! It IS killing people by RATIONING and DEATH PANELS down south ALREADY!!! I am “INCITED” by the CLOSINGS of OUR VETERAN’S HOSPITALS!!! We are “INCITED” by OBAMA’S LIES!!!

      Question:……What are WE gonna do about it??!!

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    • bekhiet
      Posted on September 28, 2012 at 5:24pm

      Well, on Nov 6, I will get my Big Gulp and head over to the polling station and vote a straight republican ticket.

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