The Grover Norquist-founded Americans for Tax Reform, a 501(c)(4) lobbying group that opposes “all tax increases as a matter of principle,” on Friday released a list of what, they say, are the top five worst taxes The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (i.e. “Obamacare”) will impose on Americans in 2013.
Here they are [all block quotes via the report]:
The ‘Obamacare’ Medical Device Tax
Medical device manufacturers employ 409,000 people in 12,000 plants across the country. Obamacare imposes a new 2.3 percent excise tax on gross sales — even if the company does not earn a profit in a given year. In addition to killing small business jobs and impacting research and development budgets, this will increase the cost of your health care — making everything from pacemakers to prosthetics more expensive.
The ‘Obamacare’ ‘Special Needs Kids Tax’
The 30-35 million American who use a Flexible Spending Account (FSA) at work to pay for their family’s basic medical needs will face a new government cap of $2,500 (currently the accounts are unlimited under federal law, though employers are allowed to set a cap).
There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are several million families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education. This Obamacare tax provision will limit the options available to these families.
The ‘Obamacare’ Surtax on Investment Income
This is a new, 3.8 percentage point surtax on investment income earned in households making at least $250,000 ($200,000 single). This would result in the following top tax rates on investment income:
The table above also incorporates the scheduled hike in the capital gains rate from 15 to 20 percent, and the scheduled hike in dividends rate from 15 to 39.6 percent.
The ‘Obamacare’ ‘Haircut’ for Medical Itemized Deductions
Currently, those Americans facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI). This tax increase imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI. By limiting this deduction, Obamacare widens the net of taxable income for the sickest Americans. This tax provision will most harm near retirees and those with modest incomes but high medical bills.
The ‘Obamacare’ Medicare Payroll Tax Hike
The Medicare payroll tax is currently 2.9 percent on all wages and self-employment profits. Under this tax hike, wages and profits exceeding $200,000 ($250,000 in the case of married couples) will face a 3.8 percent rate instead. This is a direct marginal income tax hike on small business owners, who are liable for self-employment tax in most cases. The table below compares current law vs. the Obamacare Medicare Payroll Tax Hike:
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Frogster
Sep. 29, 2012 at 3:43amThey didn’t even mention the “HOME SALES TAX” hidden in the Obamacare nightmare:
Here’s something to add to your arsenal when talking to the blokes who STILL support the Big 0 and Obamacare:
Article quote from Fred Thompson website:
“Did you know that if you sell your house after 2012 you will pay a 3.8% sales tax on it? That’s $3,800 on a $100,000 home, etc. When did this happen? It’s in the health care bill and goes into effect in 2013. Why 2013? Could it be to come to light AFTER the 2012 elections? So, this is “change you can believe in”? Under the new health care bill all real estate transactions will be subject to a 3.8% Sales Tax.If you sell a $400,000 home, there will be a $15,200 tax. This bill is set to screw the retiring generation who often downsize their homes. Does this make your November and 2012 vote more important? Oh, you weren’t aware this was in the Obamacare bill? Guess what, you aren’t alone. There are more than a few members of Congress that aren’t aware of it either.
A: That’s right. We’re finding out what’s in Obamacare. And don’t forget you pay that 3.8% even if you have no gain on the sale. And if you do have a gain your cap gains tax is going up from 15% to 20% PLUS the 3.8. Have a nice day AND VOTE.”
Source: http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/06/18/obamacare-home-tax-are-you-in-the-cfr-and-other-ask-fred-replies/
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RGFROMTEXAS
Sep. 29, 2012 at 5:42amThat is absolutely false. The tax only applies if you make a profit of
over $250,000 (single) or over $500,000 (married). The tax is only applied
to the profit over and above the two above mentioned figures. It obviously
only applies to the super, super rich !! I cannot believe the misinformation
that is spewed on this board.
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/04/a-38-percent-sales-tax-on-your-home/
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JTX
Sep. 29, 2012 at 6:08amRGFROMTEXAS: It’s WRONG either way. I don’t care who they are taxing.
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RGFROMTEXAS
Sep. 29, 2012 at 6:35amJTX
I am not saying it is right or wrong. I just get irritated when people,
like FROGSTER, make outlandish statements. If he would have read
the comments at the bottom of the link he provided he would have seen
the truth. Perhaps he did but made the statement anyway to rile people
up against the bill. If a married couple sells a residence and makes a
profit of $1,000,000 they have to pay a tax of 3.8% on $500,000. So
they keep $981,000 and pay a tax of $19,000. This is far different than
the claims of the original post.
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WakingSheep
Sep. 29, 2012 at 8:44amWhich party gave us the following:
TSA
DHS
FEMA
The patriot act
Iraq war
Gary Johnson 2012!
The two party system is a fraud!
You dolts are the ones who won’t read the history of the FED.
Want to know where the real power in Washington is; start by reading up on the FED.
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WakingSheep
Sep. 29, 2012 at 8:54amFor some reason that posted to you instead of the thread below….
Wasn’t aimed at you guys. :)
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skippy6
Sep. 29, 2012 at 9:28amRgfromtexas
Either way Obama care should have never happened, but because of Al Frankins cheated election in Minnesota We are stuck! Thanks to Mark Ritchie…..
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2008-12-17.html
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MittensKittens
Sep. 29, 2012 at 11:29amObamacare is an Obamanation!
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D-Fence
Sep. 29, 2012 at 12:12pm@RG So, from your post RG, your are corecct in the taxed amount but, even the thought of more taxes for a government which cannot effectively spend the revenue it already receives is unthinkable to me. We’re rapidly becoming statist society where only the politically connected are protected at the expense of the producers. How much more do you want to take from those who create the jobs? Do you see small business owners as selfish and greedy? If the purpose of your post is to point out the error of the original post then job done. Don’t label a board because of a particular post. There’s more truth on this board than all of the MSM put together.
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I support God's Israel!
Sep. 29, 2012 at 12:14pmHere they are in a list:
The ‘Obamacare’ Medical Device Tax
The ‘Obamacare’ ‘Special Needs Kids Tax’
The ‘Obamacare’ Surtax on Investment Income
The ‘Obamacare’ ‘Haircut’ for Medical Itemized Deductions
The ‘Obamacare’ Medicare Payroll Tax Hike
NONE OF THESE WILL THE POLITICIANS IN CONGRESS HAVE TO PAY.
JUST THE AMERICAN TAXPAYPER (NON-CONGRESSIONAL POLITICIAN).
How do you like that?
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grimmster
Sep. 29, 2012 at 2:10pmIs that sandra fu..er fluke behind and to the left of biden in that pick?
@rgfromtexas aka encinom. The only information that is spewed on this board comes from you idiot!
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PATTY HENRY
Sep. 29, 2012 at 2:57pmNUMBER ONE: This INSANE OBAMACARE does NOT cover those “uncovered”…there are as many, if not MORE who will be uncovered;. does NOT save us money…in fact costs each of us THOUSANDS MORE. What about the out of work folks – the 23 MILLION? How are they supposed to pay health care (or be fined or jailed). But that sawed off SOB can hire 16,000 IRS AGENTS as his BROWNSHIRTS. does NOT address market competition (across State lines); does NOT address FRAUD (about 1/5 of the cost of medical); does NOT address streamlining forms!!
OBAMA CARE is nothing more than 1. CONTROL MECHANISM for that SOB COMMIE/MARXIST/MUSLIMBROTHERHOOD leader in the WH; and 2. PAY BACK for the lousy UNION Bosses to put him into office…that VICIOUS CYCLE: They put him in office, he pays them back and we get the shaft.
36 more days!! Hope everyone is PRAYING every night before turning in. GOD please help our Country! I also hope the USA Muslims – having lived in REAL FREEDOM – (especially the women as much as can be expected with the macho bearded bags they are married to) – I hope they understand that Sharia Law and the M.E. mentality have -0- to offer…especially compared to AMERICAN FREEDOM!!!
Fight hard Patriots!!!
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SANTORUM4PRESIDENT
Sep. 29, 2012 at 2:58pmIf we had to go through all the taxes and hidden penalties in ObamaCare, it would take a lifetime, Frogster haha.
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Frogster
Sep. 29, 2012 at 3:28pmTo RGFROMTEXAS:
The above post is a QUOTE from Fred Thompson’s website. And yeah, sure, its intent is to “RILE” (actually the spelling should be ROIL) up people about the never-ending, grabby TAXING going on, all across the country, but especially in this Obamacare nightmare that WE NEVER ASKED FOR AND WE DON’T WANT.
This GIMME GIMME GIMME GOVERNMENT is totally OUT OF CONTROL and needs to be slapped down. Can’t wait till ROMNEY wins the Oval Office and we start to GET AMERICA BACK ON TRACK.
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RebelPatriot
Sep. 29, 2012 at 3:30pmthe biggest lie of socialism is it takes better care of the needy. The truth is it takes better care of the tyrants and those who are too lazy to work.
If King Hussein cheats his way into another 4 years, you folks better get ready to lose everything. I hope your hunting, fishing and farming skills are up to speed, because with the way prices are going to go up with inflation we will all be looking like a nation of opium addicts.
They aren’t trying to make a better society, they are attempting to make a society they control.
It’s about power, not charity and fairness. When is it ever fair to give those who don’t work for a living money from those who work hard for their money?
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desertspeaks
Sep. 29, 2012 at 3:45pmFace it, this is just another tax bill, it has little or nothing to do with healthcare, it’s all about THEFT ie taxes!
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Eblaze44
Sep. 29, 2012 at 4:32pmWhen you’ve got to “Pass it to find out what’s in it” – what were you expecting? gold coins for YOU?
Do you KNOW what brought about the Declaration of Independence and the revolution that separated us from England? Do you know what destroyed Saul, David, and Solomon’s kingdom – taxation. (What destroyed those countries later is NOT part of the answer.)
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Eblaze44
Sep. 29, 2012 at 4:40pm@JTX Posted on September 29, 2012 at 6:08am
“RGFROMTEXAS: It’s WRONG either way. I don’t care who they are taxing.”
I don’t disagree that the whole ObamaCare bill is “wrong”. but – as for the house sale tax – that’s what happens when your house is an investment rather than a home. First and foremost – you overpay for the building anyway and are cheated at every turn on the quality and material by the builder. Who doesn’t care that housing prices are inflated – government – collecting taxes – taxes on the sale to start and then property taxes every year into the future. The real estate agents aren’t into it either – the higher the price – the more they rake in for their percentage. First the buyer gets screwed on an overpriced house that somehow is going to increase in value exponentially over the years – although, just like your car – it requires constant upkeep, new parts and maintenance and loses much of it’s value the day you drive it off the lot; then the seller is screwed with taxes on a house that the taxes has already been paid.
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Codger
Sep. 29, 2012 at 4:41pm“THEY” did mention it within a month of the 2200 pages being signed into law. However “THEY” were the conservative pundits. The liberal pundits didn’t and still rarely if ever mention it.
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Cslagenhop
Sep. 29, 2012 at 4:54pmRG from Texas: The profit that people supposedly “make” is not profit but fiat profit. My parents bought a 3 bedroom house in 1974 for 79,000.00, Today they can expect to sell it for $349,000.00. How much “profit” do you think they made? Absolutely none, they lost value. Stealing is wrong, and if you didn’t learn that in church or from your mama, then we can blame you for obama.
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Mr Sanders
Sep. 29, 2012 at 7:25pmSimple question(s) – even though its in O-Care Bill:
1. WHY should Big-G profit [tax] from a person(s) selling a piece of real estate?
Down-line reasoning: Penalize Ownership, maybe?
2. WHY should a company that doesn’t profit from machine creation operations pay a tax to Big-G?
Down-line reasoning: Penalize Corporations/Small Biz – why hire more workers, maybe?
3. FSA/Special Needs – Why would Big-G limit personal/business funding of self pay or pay-go accounts?
Down-line reasoning: Make people more dependent on the Big-G health program
4. Surtax on Investment Income? Why do that?
Down-line reasoning: Penalize people that invest in their future or try to skimp & save fore a
future- Big-G is never satisfied!
5. Medicare tax rate hike on employers – this doesn’t encourage biz to hire and discourages biz growth or even startups. that’s going a long way in the supposed support of all bisiness in the US.
O-Care must be repealled. Medicare and Social Securiy needs to be revamped, Tax Code needs to be cut way down. We have to get real with ourselves. All this must be done if we’re going to cut the cost curves downward. Entitlements are choking the budget! Please note: ONLY +/-70M taxpayers pay for the over 330M citizens in the US [& untold illegal citizens -thx for paying but get legal] AND a taxpayer is a citizen, couple or a business entity.
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Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
Sep. 29, 2012 at 7:50pmCHECK THIS OUT:
Secession! Lakota Sioux Nation Leaves The Union!
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oregon scott
Sep. 30, 2012 at 2:33amRGFROMTEXAS
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 5:42am
That is absolutely false. The tax only applies if you make a profit of
over $250,000 (single) or over $500,000 (married). The tax is only applied
to the profit over and above the two above mentioned figures. It obviously
only applies to the super, super rich !! I cannot believe the misinformation
that is spewed on this board.
maybe the thing that should upset you is that any thing about real estate in any way shape or form in actually in a so called health care bill. Now do you understand why it has to be dismantled and taken apart and disposed of? this is why so many are so mad. Just one more thing. Lot and lots of people bouts homes in the down market, and if they hold on for a few years, they will not have to super rich to make 250,000 on the sale.
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ryanalicia
Oct. 1, 2012 at 8:32amit wont just effect super rich like you say. my parents paid $20,000 for their home in 1950 and its selling for $300,000 now. how are they rich? they need the capitial gains to afford a new house . so you make no sense.the middle clas will be the ones screwed as usual by stupid governmemt policies.use your head and think.
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ryanalicia
Oct. 1, 2012 at 9:21amso my praents that purchased a home in 1955 for $20,000 and need to sell and its selling for $300,000. you really think they are super rich?i dont think so. they need the money to purchase another home. it wont be a mansion i promise you that
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TheREAL99Percent
Oct. 1, 2012 at 1:06pm@RGFROMTEXAS Posted on September 29, 2012 at 5:42am
“That is absolutely false. The tax only applies if you make a profit of
over $250,000 (single) or over $500,000 (married). The tax is only applied
to the profit over and above the two above mentioned figures. It obviously
only applies to the super, super rich !! I cannot believe the misinformation
that is spewed on this board.”
Here is MY real life example of the “super rich” as you call them. My husband bought a house 17 years ago for $120,000. Over the course of those years he spent a lot of money (AFTER tax income) remodeling and upgrading. Buying building supplies that – mind you – he paid SALES TAX on. Now, after our kids are grown and are approaching retirement age, the value of the house is approximately $375,000. That meets the $250,000 “profit” threshold you mention. So now after paying our mortgage on time every month for all of those years AND using our hard-earned, taxed income to purchase taxed building supplies we are supposed to pay MORE taxes because we are super-rich? Oh, BTW, I make less than $50,000/year and he has his own business that he has run by himself (no employees) for the last 25 years. For your post I would surmise that we qualify as the nasty “super-super rich” who should have to give someone else the rewards of their hard work….FORGET THAT!
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Chromo200
Sep. 29, 2012 at 1:56amFor all you Gary Johnson/I don’t want to vote for Romney folks, loo up what influence Ross Perrot did to the Republican Party .. It put the Rupblicans on the back burner and allowed the progressives to take over.
You want to put in true conservatives in power, do it at the local level. schools, county supervisors, mayors, sheriffs, state legislators, and governors .. then maybe someone will emerge as a true leader not a flip floper like Johnson.
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Stink Fist
Sep. 29, 2012 at 2:40amRon Paul 2012!
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Obama_Forward_Over_The_Cliff
Sep. 29, 2012 at 3:31amThanks for the Gary Johnson “flip-flop” lead. Searched — and found this over at “unofficial” Ron Paul Forums:
“Ouch – Gary Johnson Flip Flops and Changes The Subject On Foreign Policy Question”
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?384666-Ouch-Gary-Johnson-Flip-Flops-and-Changes-The-Subject-On-Foreign-Policy-Question
* “Ouch. Not sure what to make of that. … I dunno sometimes I think the presidency of the United States is become a job that is so big few people can satisfactorily fill it by being experts in diplomacy, history, economics, warfare, and law.”
* “ARGH. Why is it so hard to find one politician to vote for for president that’s not absolute suck?”
* “Equally painful are his statements in support of Israel and opposing the closing of Gitmo.”
* “Way to promote the Libertarian movement. I always thought he was an idiot. His interviews are always fluffy as hell and suck, he dodges easy questions ALL the time.”
* “He is not a “libertarian” despite what he may call himself. He is a Utilitarian.. And will say and do whatever he thinks has the most utility at the moment.”
It looks like this election just will be about kicking that Islamic-Kenya-illegal-alien Obama out of our White House.
(Can you really “fire” someone who snuck in the window, then play-acted like he was an employee in the room? More like “arrested” should be the action to take. BUT NO ONE IS DOING IT! We’re all being played and this won’t end well.)
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Frogster
Sep. 29, 2012 at 3:48amGood points, Chromo… Keep talkin’ (even though it feels rather hopeless as far as getting through to those naive ones who “don’t want to vote for Romney”).
Surely SOME of the dolts still planning on voting for a “3rd party” will finally WAKE THE – - – - UP (to quote that scary guy in the cap who looks like a dark rabid pit-bull!) and realize that our only hope is for a new REAL PRESIDENT–Mitt Romney.
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WakingSheep
Sep. 29, 2012 at 8:47amYour “real president” hasn’t even mentioned anything I stated above.
Repeal and replace obamacare though right?
We need a good businessman right?
Do you know what keynsian economics are?
Well guess what; Obama and Romney are both keynsians!
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WakingSheep
Sep. 29, 2012 at 8:57amI have a correction for your post.
“For all you Gary Johnson/I don’t want to vote for Romney folks, loo up what influence Ross Perrot did to the Republican Party .. It put the Rupblicans on the back burner and allowed the progressives to take over.”
Should be:
For all you Constitutional/I WILL NOT vote for Romney folks….
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SgtB
Sep. 29, 2012 at 10:50amI would rather see Obama win this election, quickly followed by a bloody civil war to regain our constitutionally guaranteed Liberty than to vote for the same unconstitutional bs that we need to abolish from this nation. A vote for Romney IS a vote for continued debt spending, nationalized healthcare, and further welfare spending. All of which will be the downfall of this nation in short order. Trust me when I say that I would rather raise my unborn child in a world without running water and electricity but with true Liberty and sovereignty of the Citizen than in today’s world of national enslavement to public debt. That is no lie. The only way I can think of to make that happen is if a miracle happens and Romney voters come to their senses and stop being pig-headed “Republican” party voters and really vote their conscience, or if we have a civil war. The only other option is if a meteor hits D.C. and destroys all capability of our federal government to function. But, the only one that isn’t a pipe dream or fantasy is the one that involves violence. And really, that doesn’t shock me and it shouldn’t shock you. Because contrary to what we were taught in school, violence is the only thing that really ever solved anything. This nation was won through violence against an enemy that claimed ownership of the people. It can and should happen again.
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I support God's Israel!
Sep. 29, 2012 at 12:16pm@WakingSheep
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 8:57am
“I have a correction for your post”
YOU ARE RIGHT ON THE MONEY, CORRECT!
For those of you who do not like Romney, CONSIDER THE ALTERNATIVE BEFORE YOU DECIDE NOT TO VOTE AT ALL, OR TO WRITE IN A CANDIDATE. YOU WILL SEAL THE FATE OF ALL CONSERVATIVES AND YOU WILL BE TO BLAME FOR OBAMA’S WIN.
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I support God's Israel!
Sep. 29, 2012 at 12:21pm@SgtB: THERE IS ONE PROBLEM WITH YOUR THEORY: the sheeple won’t risk losing everything (THEIR STUFF) TO STOP THIS EVIL MAN. There is too much to lose for them – their stuff!
Most sheeple in American WANT TO BELIEVE THE CONSTITUTION, in bits and pieces, but when it comes to defending it, THEY WOULD RATHER LET SOMEONE ELSE DO IT!
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Kregneva
Sep. 29, 2012 at 12:27pmSergeant, I see your points, but things are different now. The only reason we needed a violent revolution was that we were dealing with a monarchy. Now we have non violent ways of change, we need to do the hard work of governing as a people. It takes patriotic devotion to each and every citizen, diversity, cooperation, compromise, strength and conviction and service to keep the greatest country ever to exist!
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oneshiner
Sep. 29, 2012 at 1:07pmIn any event, if obama gets reelected by the group of takers, we might as well bend over and kiss everything goodbye. Who wants to live in a socialist country? I want the Freedom our Constitution gives to us. I don’t want a muslim brotherhood controlling our every move. Women will become slaves to the masters. And those dumb women think their freedom has been taken away already. GOD HELP US. Read up what happens to women in muslim countries; compare that with what women have in America. Don’t Flucke me about our freedom we have now.
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WakingSheep
Sep. 29, 2012 at 2:40pm@kregneva
Meanwhile the drones fly and the dollar disappears……
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Frogster
Sep. 29, 2012 at 3:46pmTo all those who STILL intend to vote for anybody other than Romney, YOU ARE (sorry to have to say it, Lord) FOOLS!
Especially to SGTB, who thinks it preferable that her “unborn child” should live without water and electricity (WHO IS SHE KIDDING??) rather than continue the “present system” under a President Romney: YOU are a LUNATIC who should NOT even consider birthing ANYTHING if you cannot see that the Current Mess in the Oval Office is DESTROYING AMERICA beyond repair. What makes you think, if the Big -0- wins a second term and the Muslim Brotherhood gains a real foothold and SHARIA in the USA, that your “unborn child” will EVER be born, unless you are already a party to the MUSLIMization of America?
WAKE UP. Go learn what’s REALLY going on, behind the scenes as well as “HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT”… And it is not “ONLY” the economy and our religious freedom and civil rights that are being plundered by this run-amok Socialistic/Commie EXPERIMENT in D.C. Even more devastating and horrific is WHAT IT IS DOING TO OUR =SPIRITUAL/EMOTIONAL HEALTH= IN THIS COUNTRY.
WAKE UP!!! TIME IS RUNNING OUT AND WE NEED A *NEW* (REAL) PRESIDENT INSTEAD OF A POSEUR WITH NOTHING BUT HIDDEN RECORDS AND DUBIOUS DOCS.
Romney/Ryan 2012! Our only HOPE is for this CHANGE in the Oval Office.
PS Only a total PSYCHO would speak of a BLOODY CIVIL WAR and MY UNBORN CHILD in the same breath. GET HELP!
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Worldsapart
Sep. 29, 2012 at 5:32pmHey Sgtb,
You go ahead and light yourself on fire first, then we’ll all follow your lead and get violent. And I’m sure that in the midst of our bloody civil war we won’t get invaded by China/Russia/Muslim Brotherhood. Sounds like a hell of a stage 1 thinking plan right there. Vote Romney you fools. He’s humble and even though he’s Mormon, God will take care of the rest.
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klr56
Sep. 29, 2012 at 7:52pmHey WSheep, Romney knows why the constitution was written and he’ll be the first president to protect it since Reagan. He is more like George Washington than any other President we’ve had and he’ll do what is right for the country and the constitution. He knows the constitution was inspired by God and only a God-fearing people can utilize it without destruction. Johnson/Paul (the legalize drugs crowd) are only nit-pickin’ and delusional – just like those who would vote for them.
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siquijorisland
Oct. 1, 2012 at 2:42amYou are part of the problem if you are a voter suppressor.
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gwm
Oct. 1, 2012 at 11:29amhey, WALKINGSHEEP your post’s crack me up, you try so hard to be clever. and your handle is perfect for you.
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Delores at CH WV
Sep. 29, 2012 at 1:43amI thought he had no new taxes . . . another promise broken along with hundreds of others.
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I support God's Israel!
Sep. 29, 2012 at 12:23pmWhat do you expect for a LIAR?
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oneshiner
Sep. 29, 2012 at 1:32pmGet out and VOTE: Romney & Ryan to restore common sense to America and stop the Brotherhood.
We don’t need any more obamahood taxing us to death, and he will do it so he can send more of OUR money to the Brotherhood muslims. As long as the liberals are taken care of, they don’t care about the others of us. Hitler’s Germany is all too memorable in our minds with the concentration camps.
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neillwd
Sep. 29, 2012 at 12:24amThis is all about insurance. Insurance is not health care. Ask anyone who as dealt with serious illness wether insurance equals health care. Insurance is not the solution. It is the problem. We need to change the language and the argument. LET US NOT CALL IT OBAMACARE WHEN IT IS OBAMAINSURANCE. And we all know insurance is just a promise to pay you Tuesday for a burger today.
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Wilma
Sep. 29, 2012 at 5:51pmYou are correct. Most insureds do not care about cost of goods or services as long as the insurance company picks up the bill. Insurance companies try to combat waste and fraud. But they can only do so much. Ultimately, they just pass the cost on to the consumer. We are at or near the breaking point with respect to many types of insurance for this reason. In Florida homeowners insurance companies are leaving the state.
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The-Monk
Sep. 29, 2012 at 12:21amRemember this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvSkeJbQy74
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freedomisasfreedomdoes
Sep. 29, 2012 at 12:07amDid uou even read the article or just say anything to include Romney? How this doesn’t frighten you or concern you for you to be so narrowly focused on Romney and in your mind scoring one for team obama is unbelievable. You need to get your priorities in order.
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Capitolalb
Sep. 28, 2012 at 11:19pmMilt Romney is the Grandfather of Obamacare.
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GIRTHMAN
Sep. 29, 2012 at 12:14amAnd I think bush was his great grandfather…..We know its never Obamas fault !!
4 more years 4 more years 4 more years
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kaydeebeau
Sep. 29, 2012 at 5:37am@ capitol – try again….. http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/understanding_romneycare.html
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woodyee
Sep. 28, 2012 at 11:06pmI just KNOW that you guys are aware that the rates posted in the article above are “starter rates”; they are bound to go up within the first couple of years, to include ALL incomes.
Too bad that (statistically speaking) few beyond yourselves know that NOTHING government does comes free…
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shirleyandpearl
Sep. 28, 2012 at 11:54pmRomney will give states rights to repeal Obamacare. This should be left up to individual states to boot out or idiotically keep, though it would be still prove to be a royally inefficient disaster, given the state wants to keep it. The idiots who want Obamacare will be wondering why they have to wait in line so long when it comes to their own medical needs.
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PointBreak
Sep. 28, 2012 at 10:50pmOR we could all just stop paying our taxes and put a stop to this nonsense. 35% of us are financing the other 65% of the country. Why exactly? If they can’t pay for it, they can’t implement it – and by the time they get around to prosecuting anyone they’ll be too broke before to do it. Take the money away from these insolent children!!! They work for US! This is is like an employee going into the bosses office and dictating pay and hours. Take a hike!
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goinggreenduringglobalwarming
Sep. 28, 2012 at 10:36pmquestion for everyone…….. http://youtu.be/TvT6RR3ZLAY
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rainman1
Sep. 28, 2012 at 10:28pmI really think Obummer is a socialist with a hidden agenda. What I don’t understand is with all his failures, people still flock after him like he’s an antichrist or demon of some kind. All you have to do is look at gas prices along with money printing to see that the econ. is falling even further in the hole. Given that he has taken every step to keep us energy dependant knowing that the billions spent on green power would be waisted. Part of his plan to bring this great country down.
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phillipwgirard
Sep. 28, 2012 at 10:39pmHe is an Anti-Christ,,,wait and see,,,
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Brooke Lorren
Sep. 29, 2012 at 12:27amA couple of years ago, a preacher friend of mine who works with Jews and Christians in Israel told me something very interesting. Jesus actually said Barack Obama’s name during his lifetime. Barack Obama’s name in Hebrew means “Lightning from a High Place”. High Place can also be translated as Heaven, which is how most Bible translations translate it. In the Hebrew Bible (the language that Jesus was probably using when he spoke the words), in Luke 10:18 (and I’ll translate everything except for Obama’s name), Jesus said “I beheld Satan as Barack Obama”.
http://voices.yahoo.com/barack-obamas-name-bible-6060926.html?cat=34
I later learned after writing that article that in Hebrew, you would add an “O” as a connector between Barack and Bama, making Jesus’s literal words as “Barack Obama”. Years before Obama became president, my preacher friend gave a sermon and in it he must have used some Hebrew. After Obama became president, someone listened to the recorded sermon and said “you told us who the Antichrist is” pointing out what he said.
There is a lot of evidence that suggests that Judas Iscariot might actually be the real Antichrist of Revelation, but there’s no doubt that Obama exhibits characteristics of the Antichrist.
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Obama_Forward_Over_The_Cliff
Sep. 29, 2012 at 3:42amLOL great posts … but Glenn Beck beat you to it:
“The Omen Of Obama & Flies & Rats At 666 Pennsylvania Ave.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwTfwdxklUI
“Glenn Beck: Flies keep landing on Obama because of all the bullcrap that comes out of his mouth”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReGeE1GEfjs
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football lady
Sep. 29, 2012 at 12:40pmNo kidding!
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Frogster
Sep. 29, 2012 at 4:05pmRainman1 said “I really think Obummer is a socialist with a hidden agenda.”
HECK, he’s not even HIDING IT! Anybody who votes this IMPOSTER back for a second term is, imo, a TRAITOR TO AMERICA. And seeing how close this election is likely to be, anybody who votes for ANYONE other than ROMNEY is right up there with those other TRAITORS.
We simply cannot afford to RISK another term with this guy from Chicago/Hawaii/Indonesia/Kenya/WHEREVER…
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siquijorisland
Oct. 1, 2012 at 2:45amHe does as did Castro in Cuba, hide his real agenda until he had become the leader the dear leader.
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CatherineAnn
Sep. 28, 2012 at 9:57pmTalk to people. That is the only way. I make it my business to discuss the election with at least one person a day. You would be surprised at how many know so little. For the Obama lovers I approach it in a purely selfish way (because they are) their energy bills. I remind them about the gas prices and where Obama plans to take us with his green energy nonsense. I have not met one Obama supporter who knows anything about closed coal mines or refused permits. They think he will lower their costs and it is the big bad oil companies at fault. I have opened up a few minds. Does it matter? I don’t know but they do think about it for the first time.
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dylan
Sep. 28, 2012 at 11:53pmI do know a bot (Catholic as I) that really believes no abortion after 12 weeks. Seems the progs are not getting their message out: Abortions anytime and infanticide if a baby survives. ‘Punishment’ for o’s girls? I think not.
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Individualism
Sep. 28, 2012 at 9:52pmthank you rommie the commie for this legislation.
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rainman1
Sep. 28, 2012 at 10:19pmsure blame it all on bush or romney. this pos president needs firing.
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Individualism
Sep. 28, 2012 at 11:00pmand be replaced by someone who is actually against like Johnson.
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Sep. 28, 2012 at 11:08pmYes indi please throw away your vote and help reelect the POS we have now. Moron.
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Sep. 28, 2012 at 11:15pmIt would be nice if you and soy burger and the rest of you Johnson freaks would join reality sometime in the next 39 days and help us get bathhouse Barry out. And here’s a hint: voting for Johnson or Paul or bugs bunny isn’t going to do it. Pull your head out.
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shirleyandpearl
Sep. 28, 2012 at 11:59pmWe have to give Romney a chance and support him and Ryan!!! The alternative spells DISASTER. The only satisfaction of Obama winning is that his supporters will then see personally what a mistake they had made.
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1RealAmerican
Sep. 29, 2012 at 12:30amTo all of you who plan to vote for Johnson or Paul – think about this. Romney was NOT my choice but now he is the ONLY choice. I too want more from my next President but think about how long it has taken to get us to this point we are at now – YEARS! Do you really think we are going to change everything back in one election? If you do you are a fool who really needs to take a good hard look at your kids and grandkids and what you will do to them by THROWING AWAY YOUR VOTE – hard reality but that’s what you will be doing. This is the starting point for the years of work it will take to get us back on track where we need to be and ANYTHING but a Romney / Ryan vote will kill this country. If we all stick together and work towards the things we have in common WE WILL PREVAIL IN THE LONG RUN BUT IT WILL NOT HAPPEN WITH ONE ELECTION! There is no magic pixie dust, wand or anything else that will reverse the damage that has been done without years of work on OUR PART – PERIOD!
Please think about these facts on November 6th – I will be – I have 4 kids and 3 grandkids futures to think about – I have lived outside the U.S. and have seen what the rest of the world lives like and have firsthand experience with the Muslims overseas and what they are capable of – don’t give away our last shot at saving the greatest country in the world…………
Just sayin the facts……….
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Obama_Forward_Over_The_Cliff
Sep. 29, 2012 at 3:59am1RealAmerican – “To all of you who plan to vote for Johnson or Paul – think about this. Romney was NOT my choice but now he is the ONLY choice.”
I hate to admit it, but this looks like we were maneuvered into this situation (thanks to Progressives-Republicans, or should we say “Soros”). I think Romney was “plan B” but Glenn Beck thinks Romney may be like that guy in “Star Trek: Friday’s Child” the Klingon’s put into power:
Maab: “Perhaps to be a Tier [tribal head] is to see in new ways. I begin to like you, Earthman [Kirk], and I saw fear in the Klingon’s eye.”
Kras: “We had a deal.”
Maab: “That too may change, Klingon.”
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ProScrub
Sep. 29, 2012 at 4:04amIndividualism: Why is it that you are one of the only people on this site with a brain? News flash for all you Romney/Ryan fans: casting our vote for a third party candidate isn’t giving Obama the WH. It’s a statement that Romney and Obama failed to appease their audiences. While you vote based on the (R) and (D) next to their name, we vote based on our beliefs, particularly: freedom. If Romney wins, that means he convinced enough voters that he is the right man for the job. If Obama wins, that means he convinced enough voters that he is the right man for the job. Grow up and quit playing the blame game. Accept that your candidate may lose and it is no one’s fault but their own for running an unsuccessful campaign. You don’t see us bitchin’ about our candidate losing because you didn’t vote for him/her. Get off your high horse and accept reality once in a while.
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isobamamadd
Sep. 29, 2012 at 9:31amMaybe there’s something your forgetting about. Four supreme court Justices are going to retire. You want that Dictator want to be to install 4 of his Commi-zars. Bad enough he got one that never sat the bench ,Kegan and the other liberal Sotomayor equally as unqualified.
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MasterJoshua7
Sep. 29, 2012 at 5:19pmGary Johnson is NEVER going to win. Stop pretending otherwise.
The only way to change to direction of the country is to vote for romney.
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seeker9
Sep. 28, 2012 at 9:07pmAny one know if the tax on real estate is still alive?
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lovenfl3
Sep. 28, 2012 at 9:19pmObamacare was a 2000 plus page bill that the lawmakers refused to read before passing. Guess who does have to read it? Every business owner in the country has to read it because they have to live by the rules. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJspa1Yj3h4
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BODYBAG
Sep. 28, 2012 at 9:41pmThe SEIU read it. They’re the ones that wrote this spawn of hell piece of legislation.
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StandingOnMyHead
Sep. 28, 2012 at 10:54pmIf you are referring to tax on the sell of real estate, that falls under the capital gains table.
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korbin
Sep. 28, 2012 at 8:32pmI think all of you poll trolls are completely wrong. Even with the entire media pushing for Obummer, no ramifications or accountability on anything, Fast and Furious, Libya, Lawsuits on immigration, Green energy malfunction ( tax payer theft ) Dropping intentionally our long allied history with Israel, the hot mic issues saying he will do what he wants with Russia, Bowing to Middle Eastern Dignitaries, On and ON he is if you believe fairly tied with Romney in the polls. I do not think people even the idiots that voted for him last time will. HUGE landslide victory for Romney, which will give us time to WAKE up the rest of American and vote out every last politician and elect OATH KEEPERS only, then we can get our country going in the correct direction. PERIOD they are all oath breakers yes even McCain he authored the NDAA.
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korbin
Sep. 28, 2012 at 8:47pmIs that Monica Lewenki and Gary Coleman in the last picture??
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Rrddbb
Sep. 28, 2012 at 8:53pmWell stated and absolutely correct my friend.
Obammy has to go and America mighthave a chance at survival.
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Wolfgang the Gray
Sep. 28, 2012 at 9:00pmRyan voted Yes on the NDAA. You can go to http://www.opencongress.org/ to see for yourself. It is a great site for seeing who is supporting what bills and who voted for it. Obama can lie all he wants about where he stands, but look at his voting record and he has no place to hide.
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starman70
Sep. 28, 2012 at 9:08pmNot only Obama has to go but TRUE CONSERVATIVES must take control of the Senate and the House. It will take decades to erase our debt but if we don’t, we will actually be worse off than Greece, Spain, Italy, Portugal and the rest of the European Socialist Failures.
PRAY FOR AMERICA – - – PRAY FOR THE HOLY SPIRIT TO CHANGE HEARTS AND MINDS. PRAY FOR A NATIONWIDE REVIVAL.
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korbin
Sep. 28, 2012 at 9:10pm@wolfgang not sure what part of “vote out every last politician” I know who voted for what, they are all oath breakers with exception of the Paul’s.
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Heymoe
Sep. 28, 2012 at 10:11pmKorbin hit every point I frequently bring up when trying to reason with liberals. I always ask what do you like best when considering the Obama record? Is it the 5 trillion in added debt? Doubling of gas prices? 1/6 of the economy spent on health care? Failed stimulus program, etc,etc, etc. how about releasing Gitmo prisoners who find their way back to the battlefield to kill our troops. Like that one? Why in the would would any American vote for four more years of continual mistakes? Lord only knows.
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Longhorns62
Sep. 29, 2012 at 4:40pmI believe it will be a landslide election in favor of Romney. The left is desperate. The media believes if it can skew the polls and show Barry ahead that it will discourage some voters not to vote. This election reminds me of Carter vs. Reagan-the polls show Carter with a good lead. Most people are remaining silent because if you speak out against Barry that your a racist. I do not care what people say about me- I am always speaking my mind. What scares me is when he gets voted out, what he might try as a lame duck President?
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seeker9
Sep. 28, 2012 at 8:29pmThe last photo above says it all. “We are sticking it to the taxpayer now!” Vote the Dem’s out!
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Sep. 28, 2012 at 8:28pmSo just based on the figures given, $288 Billion is estimated to be drained out of the economy; while in fact it probabley will be triple that amount, collapsing even more business and our nation being shoved over the brink into the abyss.
ObamaCare has to be repealed and staked out to the ground in the daylight.
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Salamander
Sep. 28, 2012 at 8:28pmWhat a Maroon!
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Ziggy
Sep. 28, 2012 at 8:26pmObama is a liar.
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getitgotitgood
Sep. 28, 2012 at 8:21pmU.S. Move to Give Egypt $450 Million in Aid Meets Resistance the US government is being controlled by the Muslim Brother hood this is part of it. these taxes are part of the plan
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Sharon Rose
Sep. 28, 2012 at 8:20pmBut, but he said there would be no tax increases….he lies
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bmfh58
Sep. 28, 2012 at 8:20pmhmm
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starman70
Sep. 28, 2012 at 8:20pmJust another way Obama is killing our country’s economy. You had better start a savings account so you can get care overseas, for use in your old age. Under the “Death Panels” this will create, you may not be afforded, by the government, the needed procedeures to save your life.
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Magyar
Sep. 28, 2012 at 8:16pmTax-agedon is on the way unless Romney is elected and Congress repeals Owebama care—
Boy all the stars and planets have to align—I’m not optimistic…. I think we’re all forked!
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Frogster
Sep. 29, 2012 at 3:57pmIt’s interesting that you mention the stars and planets… Hate to have to tell you, but as a matter of fact, the stars/planets are going to be in a very UNFAVORABLE POSITION around election time… That old Trickster MERCURY RETROGRADE will be in effect… which, if you are not aware of its influence, usually means a lot of CONFUSION, LYING, CHEATING, STEALING, BOUNDARY VIOLATING, COMMUNICATION BREAKDOWNS, EQUIPMENT SNAFUS AND FAILURES, ESPECIALLY ELECTRONIC, TELEPHONE/VIDEO, ETC. (i.e., 3.5 weeks of chaos…)
Whether this will bode well for Romney or better for Obama, is anybody’s guess; but judging from all the LYING & CHEATING & BOUNDARY VIOLATIONS we’ve endured for the past almost-four years, it does NOT bode well for Romney/Ryan. Have a feeling the vote-counting, hand-wringing, and skewed (dishonest) media reporting will drag on as a prolonged, tormented ordeal that makes the Minnesota/Comedian election look like child’s play.
We all need to take THIS year’s election more seriously than any other in our lives, and also BE PREPARED for the UNEXPECTED… We simply cannot afford the naive and stubborn attitudes that “Romney’s as bad as the OTHER GUY” ad nauseum. YOUR VOTE will determine whether America survives. It’s that simple.
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Sirfoldallot
Sep. 28, 2012 at 8:14pmtax , tax , & more tax , lol. We the ppl r no more. Welcome 2 being a surf.
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Threeve_Texas_With_A_Dollar_Sign
Sep. 28, 2012 at 8:30pm*serf.
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Eblaze44
Sep. 29, 2012 at 4:28pmtax slave, peasant – but then you already know that. ever try to add up just what is ALL of the taxes you now pay? How much of your pay goes not just the federal government, but to local and state? How often you pay taxes on things that were already taxed?
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