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Vice President Joe Biden greets the crowd in Fort Myers, Fla. Saturday, Sept. 29, 2012. (Photo: AP)
Vice President Joe Biden was discussing the national debt with a group of supporters over the weekend in Florida when he told the audience to “get serious” about labeling its true source.
In an article titled “Biden Blames Bush Administration for Deficit,” ABC relates:
“Let’s get serious here! How did we get this debt? Ladies and gentlemen, they put two wars on a credit card. Not paying a penny, not paying a penny, even though I introduced legislation to pay for that war. They voted against it,” Biden said at the Wa-Ke Hatchee Park Recreation Center.
“Two, they voted for a new entitlement program without paying one penny for it, and that was clear. Number 3, they added another trillion dollars in the tax cut for the very wealthy, so what’s the result? These are the facts, folks, these are the facts.
“The result was by the time the reins got turned back over to Barack [Obama] and me, they had doubled the national debt in eight years, doubled the national debt in eight years,” Biden added. [Emphasis added]
Here is video of Biden’s remarks, via C-SPAN (relevant remarks around 13:00):
While no one is denying the national debt increased during the Bush administration, many point out that it has only increased at a more rapid rate under the leadership of Barack Obama.
A spokesman for Mitt Romney hammered the vice president for his remarks, writing in a statement:
“President Obama and Vice President Biden have no credibility on reducing our national debt… Over the last four years, the Obama-Biden team has presided over the largest increase in the national debt of any administration in history. And President Obama’s latest spending plan is riddled with accounting gimmicks and tax hikes, rather than policies that will get our long-term debt under control. Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan will take immediate steps to cut spending and put our nation on track toward a balanced budget.” [Emphasis added]
Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and his running mate, U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) (L), appear at a campaign rally September 25, 2012 in Vandalia, Ohio. (Getty Images)
Speaking at his own campaign appearance last week, Mitt Romney said: “And by the way, those debts get passed on to our kids. It’s not just bad for the economy; it’s not just bad for our job creation…in my opinion, it is immoral for us to pass on obligations like that to the next generation.”
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jefftkeller
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:27amYou are missing the really important thing that he said: “”We were sitting in the oval office, and Larry Summers, the chief economic adviser, and the economic team came in and said ‘Mr. President, looking at this year’s budget you are going to have a trillion dollar deficit.’ He said, ‘I haven’t done anything yet,’” Biden said. “I’m serious. They said, ‘No, Mr. President, the budget they passed, the budget they passed in October of last year guarantees no matter what you do you’re going to have a trillion dollar debt this year in the budget.’ A trillion dollar deficit to be precise.” The THEY he was referring to is the democrat controlled Congress. Bush had NOTHING to do with it. Biden stumbled onto the truth that is was Reid, Pelosi et al and not Bush and the Republicans who ran up that debt.
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Watermain
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 1:12amDon’t you get it? It’s always Bush. You know he is responsible for the drought right? And the Euro crisis, right? And the attack on the Libyan embassy, right? It’s ALL Bush’s fault and if Obama wins in November all the problems of the next four years will be Bush’s fault.
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JimCS
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 8:37amThem’s the facts! It doesn’t bother me that the man spews crazy-talk. There’s an old man on my street that does the same thing… screaming about government “rays” being beamed into his head. No, the problem isn’t the crazy, ranting old man. The problem is that millions of people are listening to him.
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Honestybefore truth
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 11:34amJIMCS has at least half of the truth behind this problem. I have said here several times how dismayed I am to know and otherwise respect a number of people who are still going to vote for that charlatan. They are what I call the “Purposely Ignorant.” The other half are those that have the gall to call themselves journalists. These people should be tried for something, I don’t know what, but some prosecutor should come up with something. They have subverted the purpose behind their profession into something only someone like Goebbels would love and support. These reporters all practice their trade in way that belittles all media, editorializing on just about every story in some papers. It truly makes me sad.
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HellAndBack
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 2:59pmJIMCS
I didn’t Know you lived on the same street as Al Gore. Small (and apparently, Sick) World! LOL
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oneshiner
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 3:44pmDo any of you believe anything coming out of the mouth of Biden? I don’t. He’s VP for no other reason than he’s a bit dumb and was chosen to take the heat off obama with his stupidity in remarks.
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Cemoto78
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 3:45pmFunny thing Joe, you voted for the Medicare Prescription benefit. How soon this dolt forgets all his votes to tack on to the deficit
http://votesmart.org/bill/3244/7823/53279/medicare-prescription-drug-benefit-bill#.UGigf_XpUY4
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Cemoto78
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 3:47pmGee Joe, you voted for those two wars on the credit card
http://votesmart.org/bill/3148/7830/53279/military-force-authorization#.UGihjvXpUY4
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Cemoto78
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 3:50pmGolly Joe, you voted for all kinds of stuff to add on to the deficit:
http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/53279/joe-biden-jr#.UGidzPXpUY4
Your kinda being a little untruthful Joe, but that seems to be a habit with you and your buddy Obama.
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vanman4446
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 3:58pmDoes anybody really listen to this *******
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 4:23pmFact is, Biden is not wrong in his statements. Fact is, both parties will spend us into economic collapse.
Fact is, we blew it. Romney will continue Obama’s policy because Obama merely continued Bush’s policy. What will change? Just the name on the door. That’s it.
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TomSawyer
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 5:12pmFACT: Joe Biden voted in favor of the Iraq War Resolution in 2002.
The war debt was not possible without votes from congress members like JOE BIDEN that voted for it.
70% of the cost of Afghanistan occurred during Obama/Biden.
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PointBreak
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:27amHypothetically we could all solve this argument AND America’s problems almost instantaneously by collectively refusing to pay taxes. Worked in Boston. We could, in theory, just take our ball and go home and let these clowns figure out where to get the money to play these games. I don’t need to send money to Greece, Israel, Pakistan, or any stan. I don’t ned to pay for welfare, spying, indoctrination of my children, 24-hour news cycle propaganda, illegal immigrant’s kids or any of the other 40 million problems that would solve themselves if we stopped feeding them. How about this? I’ll keep my money until you ridiculous bunch of lunatics start representing me, our sovereignty and the declaration of independence again.
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Psychosis
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:49ambingo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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BODYBAG
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 1:15amDouble Bingo.
The only way to hurt these leaches is in the purse.
Cut the money off and you’ll bring them to their knees.
Find a way to organize and put it into action and these
problems will resolve themselves very quickly.
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kpeters59
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 1:55amYou can’t do that!
They’ll close the National Parks!
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Watermain
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 2:39am@Kpeter: and closing the Nat’l parks is the end of the world as you know it? Really? We’re talking about the end of America as we know it. I can still hike into Yosemite if I want…
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Dagnabbit5
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 6:23am@Watermain, Kpeter was being sarcastic. National Parks is one of things they always make a big deal of in the news when they have to shut government down.
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Stelex
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 8:52amStarve the gov of money till they say “UNCLE”
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Augydoggy
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 9:53amDitto bingo.
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Skeeterhawk
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 10:00amWouldn’t that be awesome. The safeguard the government built in to soften a tax revolt is the deduction of our taxes by most people’s employers from their paychecks. Just imagine if that was not the case and every taxpayer had to write a check each quarter like us 1099er’s to cover their nut. There would be riots in the streets.
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chucksue351
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 10:50amcollectively we should call the king on the fact he is not wearing any clothes
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RightMeansRight
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 2:34pm@PointBreak…man, great postI have been saying that for a long time, and I get some of the strangest looks. It is a clear and obvious answer to the all the ‘problems’ our government creates financial accounts for,….we just stop funding them. It is our money, so why can’t we say “No”? If it were somehow possible, it would be a very effective strategy for all of us to just stop paying federal income taxes. I cannot see how we would stop paying sales taxes, etc, but the 52% – 53% of us who DO pay income taxes should just take the reins and say ‘Enough’!! Enough of this crap where YOU give OUR money to Greece, Egypt and all the other countries who spit on us but hold their hands out for our money. I once heard that actor who played “Coach” on t.v. make the very same statement about not paying his taxes anymore. He feels as many of us do, in that if you have an overly serious problem with spending, you cut off the supply line until they get themselves under control. Our gov’t is way out of control. I cannot understand how anyone would be opposed to this idea….stop paying your federal income taxes. They going to put us all in jail? Without our money, they couldn’t even do that.
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Classical Liberal
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 2:42pmA new tax protest movement? Sounds good to me. Time to tell the fools that the party is over.
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sgtstubbs
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 2:52pmYou sound like you are from Texas, You can not be a Yank.
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pwatkins
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:21amBiden doesn’t even have the facts on which one of the 57 states he is speaking in, much less how the debt came about. Can’t wait until he debates Ryan. He might just be Joe being Joe, but who has the facts Paul Ryan will let America know.
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Skrewedretiree
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:25amI often think there can be no one dumber than Joe Biden, but then I have the shame of remembering that Washington State (where I live, unfortunately) keeps re-electing Patty “Mindless” Murray.
Then again, I can’t think of any Democraps that have the brains God gave a crowbar.
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Watermain
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 1:17am@skrew: Crowbar, I love it. I thought dumber than a box of rocks was the pinnacle, but now I have a new measure. Thanks.
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CatB
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 4:04amDumber even is the local news media .. they reported that he had 2,000 people at the event .. then in the closing I guess the reporterette didn’t think that was enough so she made it 2,100 (you would really have to be counting to get it that exact!) …
When Romney was here a little over a week ago I went .. and they reported “hundreds” attended … IT WAS THOUSANDS . .. it was outdoors and standing room only clear to the back as far as you could see ..at a very large venue .. . I was helping a friends and was seated up in the handicap area .. and I had a VERY good view .. as I am certain the news media did also.
Just remember when you read these reports .. what they aren’t saying or are twisting to the advantage of Obama/Biden … or the disadvantage of Romney/Ryan … MSM SUCKS.
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HOOT_OWL
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 7:38amSKREWEDRETIREE
Hey , don’t insult crowbars or what I call ‘a spare liquor cabinet key‘.
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2smart
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:10pmSkrewedretiree, I have been using the phrase for years except I used “door knob” instead of “crowbar” in this example. Keep up the good work. And we all know Beetle Bailey Biden would be on the losing end in a debate with an amoeba!
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Gregb
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:09ameverything was great until the 06 dem takeover of the house and senate. bush could do nothing after that…but before that he got everything in order and was making us money.
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Skrewedretiree
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:13amYup! But the Press put all the blame on Bush. Goebels would be proud of the American Press. If only Hitler had the modern American Press, things would be different now.
Well, not really different than now, we just would have saved us all 60 years.
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Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:35amHitler! HITLER I SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Watermain
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 1:29am@Ex: easy now, your roots are showing.
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vox_populi
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 3:44am“everything was great until the 06 dem takeover of the house and senate. bush could do nothing after that…but before that he got everything in order and was making us money.”
The United States began reducing its surplus and going into deficit within a couple years of Bush taking office. Afghanistan, Iraq, Medicare Part D, and the Bush Tax Cuts all took place 3+ years before the Democratic takeover in ’06.
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SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 8:34amHow do you know your not over spending when you have no “BUDGET” ?
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Skrewedretiree
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:08amEverything can be traced back to a source somehow.
With that in mind, if the Democraps really want to blame the Republicans for EVERYTHING, then it’s LINCOLN’S FAULT!
Think about it……..
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whatthecrazy
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:34amI totally get it,skrewed has just skored…………
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JerryNic
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 10:54amI thought about it. I understood exactly what you meant. I like it. Our problems today are, indeed, Lincoln’s fault. Excellent observation.
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tbconrad
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:08amit’s good to know that the Republican party is still so powerful while being the minority party. It’s a continual comdemnation of weakness of the Obama administration and the Progressive party. It’s all over!
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Skrewedretiree
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:28amDespite the crap in the Press about how great Obummer is doing, I think you are right, and we will have a landslide in the Fall that will make the Carter loss seem like a victory in comparison.
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kalli
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:00amOf for heaven sake! Put a sock in it, Joe. As a matter of fact, put one in ovomit’s, too. You both are despicable, lying snakes.
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Roberto G. Vasquez
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:09amBiden thinks he’s on Saturday Night Live every day of the week!
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Gonzo
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 7:14amThis guy should be pushing shopping carts into the store at Krogers.
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RougeFastFingers
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:50pmBarry added 6 trillion in 4 years, more then Bush did in 8.
Explain that clueless Joe.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:58pmFrom the Progressives point of view; everything wrong under Obama is the fault of Bush.
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Kupo
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:50pmWhile Biden and Obama are certainly out to lunch, only a food would think that Mittens is going to curb spending at all.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 1:33amProofread much? Maybe you were thinking LUNCH=FOOD.
LOL
Mitt Romney will turn it around. He has improved every situation he’s ever been in, Governor, Olympics…it’s a process of saying what you mean, not being bullied, and meaning what you say…something you little demmys just can’t seem to get. ROMNEY also knows how to cut spending and stop the HIGHWAY ROBBERY being done by the Union Thugs. The Union rank and file will thank their lucky stars when Mitt gets in and frees them from these b-tards.
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Watermain
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 2:26am@Patty: You go girl again!
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Apple Bite
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:43pmThat lying SOB! It’s high time Republicans and Libertarians tackle these miserable jackholes on the real facts of whats going on. According to the Liberals, Jimmy Carter and Obama were the responsible ones, and their supporters and the Media continues to believe just that! Sick of the lies they’re telling to get over! Get the truth out there immediately!
DO NOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THIS ANY LONGER!!!!!
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vox_populi
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 3:21am“That lying SOB!”
Sorry, which part was a lie?
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toiletclogga
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 9:49amCommunity Reinvestment Act! Started with Carter, and put on steroids with Bill Clinton. Obama was the attorney working for ACORN who coerced banks into crafting lending practices that were detrimental to the borrowers, and the FED (Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac)/Taxpayers who backed these risky loans.
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Augydoggy
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 10:20amToiletcloggata. You are the big winner. Community reinvestment act coupled with Johnsons war on poverty coupled with all the other BS ageless programs that suck up money and have done nothing to improve the poor or the communities that received those monies. Correct me here if I am wrong. Bill C while president had the chance to have Osama given to him in handcuffs by the Sudanese he was to busy to take him. then in 1998-99 he had another chance to due away with him but alas he was to busy thinking about it and 8 hours later finally fired and missile at a tent that had been empty for 4 hours. The blood of 9-11 lies squarely in his hands IMHO.
As to his economic boom or bust (if you will) Again in 1998-99 a intelligent woman ( Brooklsley Born) who cared about her country and the american people, gave testimony before congress regarding the dangers of the unregulated direvitivies (sp) But was quickly rushed to silenced by Greenspan, Rubin,and Summers. And if memory serves me right. “Bimbo Biden” was a big part of this. Oh ya one more thing. If you listen long and hard you will hear a demo saying they invented the internet and the computer which was a small part of the $$ of Bills C. economy . We need more Brooksley Borns..
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smokeysmoke
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:37pmwhy DID THE PROTESTS IN THE MIDDLE EAST CASCADE ON THE DAYS AFTER 9-11-12?? becuase they knew it was planned and they saw the UNITED STATES IGNORING THE ARAB WORLD DEFACING UNITED STATES PROPERTY… this needs to be the attack line… IT ESCELLATED BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION GOT IT “WRONG”!!!!!!!!!!!!! who cares if it was an honost mistake…. the arab world reacted on how OBAMA reacted, and he appologized, adn then attacked romney for STANDING UP FOR UNITED STATES VALUES>… you have to be F ing kidding me rignt? ya biden you did try and pay for the wars but the republicans just said no… ahahahah
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NotAZombie
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:36pmBWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Is this ridiculous jellyfish still attempting to speak ENGLISH???
SNL, you are out of a job, because this clown has done your job for the rest of time!!!
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Kylestarr
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:25pmI don’t understand how Biden and Obama can keep blaming Bush for the debt.
If what Biden said could be true, but it’s not, then why under Bush did the debt only went up a little in 8 years comparered to the almost 6T in 3 1/2 under Obama? Most of the things Biden claims is causing the debt to go up have been going on for some time so why only in the past 3 years has it picked up speed?
Could it possibilty because of Obama’s spending?
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DeVain
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:22pmI can’t wait for the VP debate.
Ryan will absolutely DESTROY Biden.
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cemerius
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:41pmUnfortunately the BIGGEST weakness we have for the debate is the Senior Citizens will make Ryan’s age a hindrance…..:( I hope the majority of them see him as their favorite Grand kid!!! Other than that Ryan will demolish hm!
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Watermain
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 2:35amTalk about being outclassed. It reminds me of the saying: bringing a knife to a gunfight. Biden is so going to wish he would have stayed home and sent someone as unprepared as me to the debate…but he deserves what he is goig to get. I can hardly wait.
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The-Monk
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:20pmLooks like Biden got caught is a a little truth….
“The result was by the time the reins got turned back over to Barack [Obama] and me…”
Turned “back” over to…?
Sounds like they had some kind control of the reins when Bush was POTUS and both of them were in Congress. I know a lot of crap happened when they got full control of Congress in 2006.
I’d like to see that Bill (legislation) Biden was talking about.
“…even though I introduced legislation to pay for that war. They voted against it,”
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:35pmHi MONK, Yeah, remember when John Kerry was the first to say it but most of the Dem-wits followed suit with “I was for the war before I was against it.”
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The-Monk
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:48pmHi RJJ,
Yep, I remember that well. Just getting ready for bed. How was the game?
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:33amMONK, still going, but almost finished. Bama is 30 to 14.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:37amHi MONK, 33 to 14 now. 1:41 remaining.
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UNALIEN
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:19pmThe debt can never be cut, both parties expanded it because they can’t stop it.
if the debt were cut or even a balanced budget implemented the global economy would crash in a massive deflationary depression, the US would lose its global reserve status and Americas currency would collapse in value as ###s flood back into the US. The trick is to expand the debt, but hide it off the books..and devalue (inflate) the currency… that is what they have been doing. The real debt and obligations is around 120 trillion. It can’t ever be paid and in fact if it were paid there would be no money. I know crazy right..
all money/bonds/credit is loaned into existence
money/bonds/credit is debt plus interest
if debts are paid the money/bonds gets extinguished..
therefore, new debt creation is essential to keep the financial system going
a classic ponzi.. thanks Keynesian central planning socialists…
Both parties have been playing a game of cook the books, hide the debt and maintain the ponzi… they have to it is a systemic imperative. Nobody will tell the public the truth.
The financial system is really a classic ponzi scheme by Keynesians and the debt must expand to keep the game going.
IMO, the only way out is a collapse of the system and restart, but it will be very painful and who knows what we’ll get after..
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UNALIEN
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:35pmforgot to add that the elites know it is going to collapse and are scrambling to get a global debt/credit system to replace the US$ as a global ponzi err I mean currency. some have been trying to get that carbon credit scam but so far it is the IMF SDRs, but who knows what they will come up with.
Also, China and Russia want to be big players in a new world order err I mean global currency..
So fun times yup gonna be real fun times…
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nobull14
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:14pmBiden is a complete 4 star moron !!!. Enough said
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Watermain
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:03amIs four stars the most the vice-moron can get? He surely deserves the most.
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Marine25
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:07pmAnd how did YOU contribute to our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan? Did you say a little prayer? Did you stick a magnetic ribbon on your truck that says “Support the troops”? Or did you just enjoy your tax cut and call those who wanted to rescind those cuts ‘socialists’?
Those wars were not paid for by American tax contributions.
Grover Nordquist made sure of that. And the tea-party thinks he is a patriot.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:11pmIs Biden talking about 2006 through 2008, when the Democrats had control of Congress? Presidents do not pay for wars, Congress does, so I think he must be talking about then. It is a natural thing for a Democrat to change facts around to suit his argument.
Owebama and Biden have put us so deep in debtbthst my hildren will still be paying or it long aftr I am dead, assuming Owebama loses. If Owebama wins, we can say oodbye to our union and hello to a new muslim union.
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BasketFullOfPuppies
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:06pmWe could do a lot for our debt and future expenditures by getting rid of the Department of Homeland Security and TSA.
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LeadNotFollow
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:05pm…
No one listens to Biden. He’s a moron.
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DOra Glasberg
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:07pmHe’s 100% correct about the deficit.
It’s spend spend spend borrow borrow borrow
when a Republican is in the WH.
Starting with Reagan.
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DOra Glasberg
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:10pmAttack the messenger #1
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Skrewedretiree
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:11amYou are so very wrong! There are thousands who listen to him! They are called Democrats…..
They are the same ilk that followed Hitler.
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MEANS2RESIST
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 1:35amApparanly those idiot lemmings in the backdrop were haveing a helluva good time…complete stooges
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Watermain
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 2:46amYou’re joking right? All those bla*k morons with their free Iphones love him and his master. A free phone equals: I think you are the second coming of Christ. Surely you see threat to Americans whoiactually have a functioning brain from these morons, right?
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papatom48
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:03pmFirst of all, biden is an idiot. Second, Biden is an idiot. Third, Biden and Obama are totally incapable of being honest about anything. The idea that spending has to be ‘paid for’ is another democratic fantasy. Even Obama admitted that reducing taxes increases revenue, but it’s not
fair’, so he won’t do it. So has the media ever asked him to define what fair is, and fair to whom? Ofcourse not. Because the media are merely democratic operatives with press passes. And Biden is an idiot.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:09pmSo you dont think deficit spending should be paid for? So let me get this straight….
-Democrats think government spending should be paid for by increasing taxes
-Republicans think government spending should be put on the national credit card
Both positions are despicable
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DOra Glasberg
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:10pmAttack the messenger #2
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:58pmIraq and Medicare Part D cost trillions of dollars but hey – whats a couple trillion among progressives
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utegrad08
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:13pmPreach on, brother. A pox upon both parties for really causing the mess that we have right now TOGETHER.
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pudssweetie
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:21pmSoy, did you know that Seniors pay between $100.00-$115.00 per month to have Medicare Part B, which is automatically taken out of their Social Security checks each month? Did you also know that each Seniors who has Medicare Part B also has to pay $140.00 deductible per year before Part B will even start paying? Now think about how this affects Seniors who may only get about $800.00 per month in Social Security before Medicare and Medicare Part B is taken out, this leaves very little for them to live on. If Medicare would not have made the steep cuts in coverage, they would not have needed Medicare Part B at all.
On the other hand, maybe if we forced Public Union employee’s to start paying a lot more towards their Health Insurance and Pensions and use the savings to pay for Medicare Part B, then the problem would be solved. I would much rather take care of our Seniors, than to pay for entitlements to spoiled Public Union employee’s.
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denkat56
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:55pmIf you want to blame bush fine, barak has had three years to fix the problem. Basic money facts are that you cant borrow yourself out of debt. You promised to get the debt under control, youve only increased it. Where is america any better than it was 4 years ago.
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freeberty
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:06pmAbsolutely right Denkat56
So what’s Romney’s plan except to exponentially increase military spending for his new navy?
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:06pmand Mitt Romney is making the same promises today – but does Romney understand why America is worse off every 4 years?
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DOra Glasberg
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:08pmOne cannot correct 30 years of Republican spending and borrowing in 3 years.
Reality please.
Republican administration are responsible for 70% of the national debt. Period
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Watermain
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 2:57am@free and @soy: do you not see that Romney is ONE hell of a lot better than obama and that Paul and Johnson are only taking votes away from those of us who want a better America, really? Come on.
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justangry
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:53pmWhat are we now going to deny that Bush drastically increased the National Debt? Obama drastically increased it as well. Romney has no plan to cut the debt. Anyone that thinks he can while increasing the military and not chopping one department or social program is a fool. So you know he’s just another con artist politician. Both parties suck so much.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:00pmNo, everything is Obama’s fault. Everything….
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DOra Glasberg
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 11:12pmRomney has no plans FOR ANYTHING.
His whole campaign has been ATTACK OBAMA.
The country has fortunately woken up.
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Skrewedretiree
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:19amWell, here you go again……
Saying that each party is as bad as the other is juvenile. We may not get much corrected under a Romney Administration, but at least it will arrest the constant damage done by the Obama Regime. In order to fight cancer and put it in remission, you first have to arrest it.
Arrest Obama!
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Watermain
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 2:22am@Soy: Are you kidding? Don’t you watch the news? It’s Bush’s fault…Ha Ha
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RiseAboveThem
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 5:47amThe “dynamic duo” speak at these rallies full of uninformed zombies and tell them a bunch of BS. They are clearly banking on this group to put them back in the WH. Hopefully there are more of us who know what BHO has been doing these last 4 years than them. BTW if Romney got specific on how h’d cut spending, the liberal press wold hammer him even more than they do now (if that’s possible).
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woodyee
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 5:50amOh, your JustAngry…
Here is a side-by-side comparison of national deficits run bt the last 9 presidents, plus Gaybama, in pictures –
http://www.heritage.org/federalbudget/budget-create-deficits?gclid=cpdq2myc3bicfwthqgodxksasa
Gaybama poses a deadly one.
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justangry
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 6:27amWoodeye, Way to weigh in on the national debt discussion with a deficit graph… not exactly the same thing… Besides your graph makes Kennedy, Carter and Clinton look better than Reagan. Was that your point? lol
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soybomb315_II
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 7:52am@Just
@Woodeye
Saw that graph, did you notice that 4 out of the 5 worst debt presidents are republican? And the three best presidents are democrat. Yikes. This is why we say the republicans are not much better than democrats (and according to that chart, they are worse)
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justangry
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 9:17amYeah Soy, but that doesn’t reflect democrat tax increases either when talking deficits. Here’s the national debt graph by party.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=national+debt+by+president&view=detail&id=33BEC30B19ED4907F1DE10590B9EB11977078C6B&first=1
We all know what needs to be done. We need to cut every single agency and program that violates the 9th and 10th, stop fighting wars, and probably have to raise taxes on the wealthy too (at least cut out the loopholes and end subsidies) to shrink the debt. What’s interesting is look at the graph from the time Evil Bush (it’s easier to just call them evil Bush and dumb Bush) announced his NWO. But yeah, it’s only Soros who is wanting a “managed decline of the dollar”.
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Individualism
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 10:40amThe reason to vote Romney over Obama is because hes white and that is good enough for many ignorant and stupid folks.
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woodyee
Posted on September 30, 2012 at 12:20pmto JustAngry
GREAT links – thanks!!!
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zoro51
Posted on September 29, 2012 at 10:48pmbiden needs to be tested for alzthimers DMEMNTIA… this buffoon makes former president FORD look like a genius.. .. GET RID OF THIS OLD FART
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