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Fed Up: Top Gen. Allen ‘Mad as Hell’ About ‘Insider’ Attacks in Afghanistan

Oct. 1, 2012 9:55am Erica Ritz

Gen. John Allen Mad as Hell About Insider Green on Blue Attacks in Afghanistan | 60 Minutes

In this Oct. 3, 2009 file photo, U.S. Marine squad leader Sgt. Matthew Duquette, left, of Warrenville, Ill. , with Bravo Company, 1st Battalion 5th Marines walks with Afghan National Army Lt. Hussein, during in a joint patrol in southern Afghanistan. (Photo: AP)

With the death toll in Afghanistan reaching 2,000 on Sunday, many are taking a closer look at the startling number of “insider” attacks that have occurred over the past year.

President Obama’s plan for the majority of U.S. troops to withdraw from Afghanistan by 2014 calls for training Afghan security forces in how to defend their own country, however, a record number of those troops are instead turning their weapons on Americans.

According to Reuters, a stunning 1-in-5 combat-related deaths in Afghanistan by NATO-led forces in 2012 has been an insider “green on blue” attack, comprising roughly 16% of American casualties.

“I’m mad as hell about them, to be honest with you,” Gen. John Allen — the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan — said on “60 Minutes” Sunday. “We’re going to get after this. It reverberates everywhere, across the United States. You know, we’re willing to sacrifice a lot for this campaign. But we’re not willing to be murdered for it.”

Here is video of the interview:

Allen reiterated that the “vast majority” of Afghans are “with us” in the fight, saying there are a number of Afghans who have even died protecting American troops, but that the attacks definitely represent a weak spot in our defenses.

“The enemy recognizes this is a vulnerability,” Allen explained. “You know, in Iraq, the signature weapon system that we hadn’t seen before was the IED. We had to adjust to that. Here, I think the signature attack that we’re beginning to see is going to be the insider attack.”

Afghan President Hamid Karzai blames terrorists, partially foreign fighters, for the attacks.

He explained: “They’re still there, and they have the ability continue ten years on to come and hurt us– to kill your troops, to kill our troops, to kill our civilians. We must question, then, how come they’ve returned?”

“60 Minutes” cameramen spoke with a number of the fighters, who said they support al-Qaeda. One of the leaders said the Taliban are responsible for the attacks, and that al-Qaeda fighters are flooding in to help.

“There are many groups that have [al-Qaeda fighters]; we can’t do this without them…They are masters of everything, for example making IEDS, something we don’t know how to do. But they are teaching us. They are also master engineers, and good with all weapons…” he explained.

Last week, Obama adviser Michele Flournoy said the attacks are a “very occasional” problem that represent the Taliban’s increasing “desperation.”

“It’s very tragic and it’s very upsetting when these things happen,” she remarked, “but they are a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of a percentage of the overall interactions that are happening.”

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junkmaninohio
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 3:37pm
General Allen is mad as hell while General Dempsey blames the murder of our troops on the troops themselves. Both Allen and Dempsey should be fired.

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- dmerwin
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:27pm
  Pull Karzai’s US soldier body guard. We would get a change, muy pronto.
  
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- Rampart
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:07am
  Sadly–where our beloved troops are concerned–Obama’s foreign policy has indeed proven “shovel ready…”
  
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- warrior21
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:12am
  How many had to die before Gen. Allen noticed? It is about time we took this war seriously and started fighting. Throw the dammed so called “Rules of Engagement” out or get out now. We are fighting a war with one hand tied behind our backs.
  
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- Secret Squirrel
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:47am
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  2000 of America’s finest is enough.
  Get out today.
  Let the Afghans get back to growing poppys and having sex with goats.
  Every civilized country has failed to bring the Afghans into the 18th century.
  Who cares?
  
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SwivelHeadedYinzer
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 3:31pm
@Mike
“Outlaw Islam, close the mosques, deport the muslims. Better to fight them over there than here at home.”
Outlawing Islam would probably be impossible and quite non PC. However, if we take a page form the FFRF’s playbook, get a few 10′s of thousands to declair that the “religion of peace” offends us(mainly the murder of non-muslims), maybe we could remove it from the U.S. to someplace that wouldn’t offend us, say the dark side of the moon. It gotta work, considering that one athiest student and parent can have the 10 commandments removed from a middle school because they are offended by it.

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TheWatchmanSeeth
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 3:19pm
There is a solution and a very effective one,,,its called “carpet bombing”

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cdn1979
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 1:53pm
that place is upside down and backwards. it always has been and always will be. the US troops can stay for 100 more years and the day they leave, the tribal unrest will come back. leave now and stop wasting american lives. you can’t force people out of the stone ages. they have to want to progress. and if they don’t want to, stop wasting time, money,and lives. those people have been fighting each other for hundreds of years and will continue to do so long after the US leaves. this is just a pause to fight a different enemy for a change except for one another. staying there is helping no one at all.

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nana1212
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 1:12pm
What the hell does the SOB in the WH care about our soldiers getting killed…just so long as his a## is safe!!!!!!!!!!!!

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- The_Pointy_End
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:26pm
  In a luxurious Las Vegas resort (with a Middle Eastern theme) that we are paying for.
  
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jrcess
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 12:29pm
Every military family that looses a son or daughter can thank Hillary Clinton and Obama for their failed policies that opens the door for the slaughter of our military personel . Obama does not give a crap about the death of a soldier, Totally dispicable.

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RANGER1965
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:21am
This isn’t surprising, or complicated.

The same thing occured in Vietnam in the last 6 months we were there. When it became known that we were gonna be pulling out, people over there, had to make a decision.

Continue to support the Americans who were leaving, or change sides and support the communists who would soon own the country lock, stock, and barrel?

Communists with long memories and who were awfully fond of making people disappear.

It’s a pretty easy choice, especially if you are in the American created police, or military. Show some loyalty now while the Americans are still here by killing a few Americans and you’ll get a pass for yourself (if you survive), and for your family.

But if you’re still a loyal soldier or policeman to the American created government when the American’s leave? Pfft…you and your family are done!

If you were an Afghani, what would you do?

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- GABlueStarMom
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 12:03pm
  Yesterdays attack is being called a Green on Blue but in fact it was an Ambush. After killing the SFC and Contractor at the check point, the 17 man ANA unit opened fire on the American convoy! This was not a lone Taliban! The last Green on Blue Attack which halted partnering was purportrated on our soldiers while they were asleep!
  
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Detroit paperboy
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:17am
Either leave now, or kill them all………….yes ALL………

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kickagrandma
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:11am
PRAY for our men and women in service.
PRAY for their leaders.
PRAY for their families.
PRAY for courage and protection.

It is past time to kick butt, AMERICA.

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randy
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:05am
WHY are my posts now showing up?
It has been happening too many times lately!!!

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Eastinfection
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:54am
Time to burn down the poppy fields and get the hell out of there.

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ChiefGeorge
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:51am
This tiny fraction of incidents is not acceptable.

We are there to help these people, they pretend to go along, gain trust, get positions to implement the plan then turn and kill our troops in cold blood. This is not War time killing, this is outright murder. If our troops were going out murdering the Afghanis then they would be held to account and go to prison. Face it! This operation in Afghanistan was a nobel attempt which creeped into nation building. We need to count our successes there and gather up our troops and material. Its not a losing proposition, we’ll never shut down the Taliban anyways because they always have another generation coming up ready to step up and kill their own and us. We learned this lesson a long time ago in Nam and they said never again but here we are AGAIN doing the same ole dance with a people who will not fight for their own freedoms as we sacrifice our own for them…..no US soldier should be asked to do such a thing.

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- pagraywolf
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:02am
  Amen.
  
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- GABlueStarMom
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 12:11pm
  We are not fighting a war! Since when is it the mission of our ground troops to train another countries military? Our ground troops are trained to fight the enemy, not arm them! Our troops are FORBIDDEN to use ANY OFFENSIVE TACTICS! What are they there for? IED magnets? We cannot expect our troops to protect the civilians while letting the enemy roam freely! What kind of policy is that? It is just a cluster **** !
  
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- Kinnison
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 12:14am
  No one in Washington reads history. The Brits owned Afghanistan and Pakistan for 150 years and couldn’t tamp down the clans. The Russians tried for 8 years to conquer the Afghans and lowst more troops than we have, and the loss was one of the major causes of their empire falling apart. We should never have sent conventional forces there. We should never have engaged in “nation-building” there. It is time to admit the mistake, cut our losses and bring our men and women home.
  
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face.chewer
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:45am
NO Muslim can be trusted in ANY country.

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Big Media Bias
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:41am
Obama’s removing the ban on gays serving was suppose to win the war and prevent insider ally killings. Forcing military service members to pay more for health care is Obama’s Plan B to win the war.

Don’t believe all the hype from these Generals. Most them have been promoted by Obama for their political views and loyal obedience. The job of a General is 100% politician. Obama has been purging the officer ranks for four long years. We now have lesbian Generals and homosexual commanders in charge of political correctness and revenge against enlisted and subordinates.

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- ChiefGeorge
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:55am
  Definitely some truth to what you say. Having been a career minded person myself, you get to a place in your service lets say after your second enlistment and by then your really beginning to see the change since your joined 5-6 years prior, you ask yourself as you see the trends in policy and who implements it and you say to self, “Do I really want to put up with this and sign up again” Usually the answer is no!
  
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- pagraywolf
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:04am
  Agree with Chief George. I’m glad my Reserve time was under Reagan…
  
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- GABlueStarMom
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 12:16pm
  @ChiefGeorge, my son and many of his fellow soldiers are done! All had planned on careers and the garbage they have to put up with has turned them off to the point of giving up their careers. Some are very close to retirement but it is not worth it anymore. They are being expected to go against their common sense and morals.
  
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MBA
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:41am
A whole new meaning for that nobel peace prize!

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olderjarhead
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:38am
Here’s an idea; let’s leave these idiots to mess up their own Country, and kill each other. Why are we even there?

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ultor-de-deus-exercitus
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:33am
Romney grew a national and state government economy / Obama exploded one
Romney is a successful business man / Obama has never ran a lemonade stand
Romney created millions of jobs as an executive / Obama has lost 4 million
Romney has an MBA and a Jurist Doctorate / Obama has a Law Degree
Romney balanced a budget / Obama doesn’t know what one is
Romney saved the Olympics / Obama cost us one
Romney is an executive / Obama is a student
Romney is a US Citizen / Obama ?
Romney / Obama
November?
Decide! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
The adumbrate leadership of Mr. Obama in conjunction with the near homeostasis and perpetual fawning of our national press on his behalf, is producing a moiety of unparalleled and unequaled potential for a tragic if not catastrophic scenario for these United States.
Really, all of these fonts of wisdom, all these oblivious oracles of orotund and odious badinage, living vapid little ruminant lives, your pusillanimous orison for meaning escapes all meaning and use, and is nothing more than an entropy of clueless logorrhea and empty prattle.
The Obama telos becomes clearer with every action, or rather lack thereof, in these closing days of his first and pray only term of office. The Islamists obviously understand that Obama is like one of those pimps that have no prostitutes or rather Obama is the Ho and they run the show. Al Qaeda slaps him around and like a “b

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AllLost
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:30am
At least FDR and Truman sought to win the war above the politics of the time. Since then Dems only get our men and women killed accomplishing nothing.

If you are angry General seek to get our troops out of that hell of a place.

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- jackact
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:20am
  For FDR war was the politics of his time.
  That is how we ended up with the ‘concept’ of perennial entitlements.
  The advancement of communism in America.
  Thanks FDR.
  
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starman70
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:28am
General Allen is “As mad as Hell” zbout insider attacks. Well in order to do anything about it he must:

1) Get permission from Obozo

2) ask permissionj from the Afghan government.

As you can bet, neither will be forthcoming. We need to get out of that crazyhouse before we lose any more of our nations finest. Leave this traitor Karzai (A-stans President) to Al Queida and the Taliban. He has stabbed coalition forces in the back too many times. Just like Viet Nam, you must call back to HQ and have them ask permission of the government in order to fire on militants or their convoys. Why do we get involved in such lunacy?

Bring ALL of NATO’s forces home and then make AGENT ORANGE runs over the poppy fields annualy to destroy the basis for their Heroin trade.

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jackact
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:20am
The two stumbling blocks to be removed in order to pursue and eradicate militant worldwide Islamic terrorism:

Barack Hussein Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

We’ll worry about cleaning out the rats nest in the state department and the pentagon AFTER the election.

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thibx
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:20am
sacffrice for oboma’s campaign that exatly what it is in afganstan and lybia. thank you sir stand up to this sucker and for the troops that this president does not give a damn about. we have a president who is not a leader and he is getting troops and others killed.

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SquidVetOhio
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:17am
We haven’t had a good general since Shwarzkopf. These guys are all politicians in camouflage.

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- GABlueStarMom
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 12:06pm
  What we are witnessing is the wussification of our military! An American GENERAL in a quandary regarding the killing of military personnel while worrying about the feelings of the enemy!
  
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momrules
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:10am
Remember when these insider murders were blamed on Terry Jones because he burned the koran? The Muslim riots are blamed on a movie clip? The soldiers celebrating the death of the enemy?

Now we have come full circle back to Al Qaeda. Good grief. Just get our remaining soldiers out of this hellhole. We cannot fix that country. We cannot reach these people, they hate us. They will continue to hate us until the end of time.

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- mike_trivisonno
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:20am
  We should be more concerned about deporting the mind-numbingly vast muslim army that has already been invited onto American soil by treasonous elected, and unelected, officials for the express purpose of engaging in violent jihad on American citizens.
  
  Outlaw Islam, close the mosques, deport the muslims. Better to fight them over there than here at home.
  
  And for every single jihad attack on an American, we respond with violence so amazingly brutal that the muslims will think twice before jihading for their Allah deity anywhere near anything that might even be remotely connected with something in which America might have an interest.
  
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- lefty5005
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:19am
  or until they no longer exist..is it going to be us or them?
  
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mike_trivisonno
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:10am
“Insider attacks”?

One would think that the General would be able to recognize muslims engaged in Jihad by now.

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65Mustang
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:04am
Allen West should be Secretary of Defense or even Secretary of State…he would be 100% better in any office than what we presently have.

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- Armyduderetired
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:29am
  Yea West. Will just unleash him and he can go over and interrogate them. Maybe fire a few shots over there head for effect. Yea that’ll show em. I got a better idea get our azzez out of all these countries and come home to where we belong. West does not seem to understand the constitution now that he is in congress. Check out his voting record and you might want to change your position on this traitor.
  
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