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This Is Where Obama & Romney Stand on Abortion and Birth Control (And Why it Matters)

Oct. 1, 2012 7:37am Billy Hallowell

(TheBlaze/AP) — The issue of whether women have access to abortion services and birth control is a longstanding and divisive fixture in American politics. Furor over both abortion and contraception has flared up from time to time in this campaign, despite the candidates’ reticence to dwell on such hot-button topics.

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Where the presidential candidates stand:

President Barack Obama supports abortion rights. His health care law requires contraceptives to be available for free for women enrolled in workplace health plans — a controversial measure that has put him at odds with religious groups, particularly the Catholic Church.

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Republican Mitt Romney opposes abortion rights, though he previously supported them. He says Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court ruling establishing abortion rights, should be reversed, which would allow states to ban abortion. He would end federal aid to Planned Parenthood, a major provider of abortion and contraception, and has criticized mandatory coverage for contraception as a threat to religious liberty when it’s applied to employers, such as Catholic hospitals, that disagree.

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Why it matters:

There’s been a lot of heated talk this year by Democrats contending that Republicans are waging a “war on women.” That’s hyperbole, retorts the GOP, but there are indeed stark differences between the two parties over these volatile issues.

Obama’s Affordable Care Act, which Republicans opposed and want to repeal, vastly expands women’s access to copay-free preventive health care, including contraception.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and many conservative Protestant evangelicals have denounced this contraception mandate, saying it violates religious freedom. The provision generally exempts houses of worship, but faith-affiliated employers would have to comply.

Obama’s campaign has been running ads aimed at female voters, noting that Romney supports overturning Roe v. Wade and has assailed the contraception coverage requirement as a “war on religion.”

This Is Where Obama, Romney Stand on Abortion & Why it Matters

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Were Romney to be elected, his ability to push through tough federal abortion restrictions would probably be limited unless Republicans gained firm control of both chambers of Congress.

However, the next president — Obama or Romney — could have huge influence over the future of abortion policy if vacancies arise on the Supreme Court. For example, if two seats held by liberal justices were vacated and filled by Romney-nominated conservatives, prospects for a reversal of Roe v. Wade would increase.

“That’s bigger than everything else combined, because of the long-term consequences,” said anti-abortion activist Charmaine Yoest, president of Americans United for Life.

Another issue of contention is the federally financed family planning program known as Title X. Romney has proposed ending the program, as well as all other federal money for Planned Parenthood. Obama supporters say this could be harmful to the large numbers of women who rely on Planned Parenthood clinics for affordable birth control, breast-cancer screenings and other services.

In this Jan. 23, 2012, file photo, anti-abortion and abortion rights supporters stand face to face in front of the Supreme Court in Washington, Monday, Jan. 23, 2012, during the annual March For Life rally. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta, File)

Aside from the presidential and congressional elections, there’s a lot riding on the results of state-level elections. Anti-abortion activists hope for further gains to accelerate a dramatic trend of the past decade: the enactment of scores of laws restricting access to abortion in states with Republican-controlled legislatures.

Among these measures are laws in several states prohibiting abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy, on the contended grounds that fetuses can feel pain at that stage; and a South Dakota law requiring doctors to warn women seeking abortions that they face increased risk of suicide by undergoing the procedure. In Mississippi, the lone abortion clinic is threatened with closure because of a new law requiring abortion providers to have hospital admitting privileges.

The coming election carries the potential to change these dynamics profoundly.

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The Third Archon
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:02am
“The issue of whether women have access to abortion services and birth control is a longstanding and divisive fixture in American politics.”
Not as longstanding as you might think.

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twbranch
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:01am
I am pro choice for one reason only…the only people having abortions are liberals. Eventually, the liberal population will be extinct and that is fine by me.

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- tuffterf
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:17am
  Good old conservative logic, TW. My parents are conservative and I’m a liberal – how did that happen?
  
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- NHwinter
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:23am
  tuffterf – how did that happen? Because your parents were conservative and not liberal/pro-abortion.
  
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- dublinthewagons
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:51am
  Tuffterf is an admitd piggie backer.
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:59am
  If you think righties are hustling their pregnant 16 year olds for 1st trimesters you are REALLY LIVING in a fantasy world, Especially if Margaret Sue’s BF is named Jamal.
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 12:06pm
  I meant AREN’T hustling ………………. in my previous post.
  
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- TEARS FOR AMERICA
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 12:08pm
  Your pro-choice banter is cold-hearted, don’t you think? What about the innocent child that cannot speak for itself, are you condemning the child too? To not speak is to act…for the pagan practice of sacrificing innocents on the altar of self and convenience and should be condemned in every way.
  
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- West Coast Patriot
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 12:09pm
  Mitt Romney is the guy that will tell you what he thinks you want to hear in order to get elected. You just go ahead and go on believing him when he says he is pro-life. Yeah right. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNDsyKnQIes
  
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- GreyPepper
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 5:09pm
  haha. But really don’t hate liberals. Respect, even though you don’t agree. I am strongly pro life. And I have pro choice liberal friends, but even though I really really disagree, I have to respect their beliefs. And I hope you and everyone else will too ;) hating won’t do anything. Words don’t do anything. violence just makes it worse. Do Something Positve and Nice :)
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 6:58pm
  This is where Romney really stands on abortion
  
  “I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970, as a US senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v Wade has been the law for 20 years, that we should sustain and support it. And I sustain and support that law, and the right of a woman to make that choice.”
  -Mitt Romney (October 25, 1994)
  
  “I will preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose, and I am devoted and dedicated to honoring my word in that regard.”
  -Mitt Romney (2002)
  
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RedFlyer
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:36am
Anybody else find it ironic that the lives the GOP saves by banning abortion just grow up to be democrats seeking to vote them out and raise our taxes?

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zoro51
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:28am
KILLING in any form for a unborn is PLAIN MURDER.. beinga rape babey i could have bene aborted BUT i was come to full term n adopted out… I AM PRO LIFE. you ***** want to murder your unborn kid ITS ON YOUR HEAD FOR LIFE!

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Crossbow
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:21am
All you need to think about is that if the Democrats think that human life is not worth saving before it is born –what about elders?

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- BSdetector
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 12:37pm
  Death Panels.
  
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TheCalvinistPastor
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:21am
I have a friendly suggestion for “the Blaze”
Dont use the phraise “Anti-Abortion” only huffington posts and liberal outlets use terms like that to put an automatic negative label on anyone that would oppose Killing children. Call us “Pro Life”

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- TEARS FOR AMERICA
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 12:14pm
  Absolutely true! You are spouting the same biased rheoric if you say you are “anti-abortion” when there is nothing negative about positively saying NO to murder! Life triumphs over death, always.
  
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- FreeAlaskan
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 5:32pm
  I don’t know about you, but, I don’t know anybody that is anti-life. I’m pro life and I am also Pro-choice. I like life. I respect life. But I also agree that I have a choice and that you also have a choice. When people start putting their religious beliefs on me and start telling me what I can and can’t do because it opposes their religion, then I have a problem. I love my country just as much as the next guy. People are pro-choice or they are anti-choice. That is just the way it is.
  
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- stayathomeworkingmom
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:39pm
  You do have a choice. To have sex or not to have sex. That’s the choice. As for rape pregnancy cases – less than 1% of rape victims become pregnant as a result (30 or so cases a year). Who is guilty? The rapist or the child? If some one is going to die, let it be the rapist.
  
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Ken2kilo
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:10am
For those of you who have never read the Bible the Ten Commandments are listed in Exodus 20:3-17 and Deuteronomy 5:7-21. In both references one of the commandments is “you shall not murder” and abortion is MURDER. In Psalm 139 King David speaks of God knowing you before you were born and in all eternity. We were not created for someone to snuff out before we were born. Life is a right, not a choice. Roe vs Wade should be overturned. It should not have been allowed in the first place. On a National level or a State level, abortion should not be allowed. For all of you reading this post, you can thank your mother for not choosing abortion!

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- Spqr1
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 3:12pm
  Mosaic Law tells you to not do all sorts of things, things you’ve probably done frequently. If you’re going to quote Mosaic Law and you’re not a practicing Hacidem, you are faking it.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 7:22pm
  Overturning Roe v Wade would mean the states have the authority to decide. I think that is the best solution – get it out of the federal debate because Washington should be solving the fiscal problems, not the moral ones
  
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G.E.R
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:00am
It’s funny how conservatives believe all life is sacred from the point of conception until birth. Then after that they’re on your own. That is until they reach military age, then they’re just fine. Conservatives want live babies so they can be dead soldiers. And they better not become a doctor because then you might have to kill them. This whole sanctity of life crap is just manmade BS designed to make them feel noble about themself. Who said life is sacred? God? If you read history, you realize that God is one of the leading causes of death. He has been for 2000 years. Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Christians all taking turns killing each other because God told them it was a good idea. The sword of God, the blood of the lamb, vengeance is mine. Millions of people died because they gave the wrong answer to the God question. Do you believe in God? No your dead. Next do you believe in God? Yes. Do you believe in my God? No your dead. I don’t know which is worse your hypocrisy or your religion

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- marvel
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:59am
  You are talking nonsense. Most conservatives I know believe life is sacred from conception to death (at a ripe old age preferably). I don’t know any conservatives who “want live babies so they can be dead soldiers”. And I have never met anyone who would want to kill someone for being a doctor. What are you talking about man?
  
  Life is sacred even from a humanist point of view, seeing that without life, there would be no one to contemplate these questions to begin with. Sure, life brings with it sorrow and suffering, but it also brings with it joy and happiness. I exist, and it is quite evident to me that others exist as well, and moments of happiness, triumph, and meaning exist despite one’s lot in life, whether one is born of privilege or poverty. The possibility of life, and the birth of new personalities who can all pursue liberty and happiness is sacred. Without life, we are not. The child in the womb is an individual human life who has a right to enter this sphere and fulfill the measure of his own existence.
  
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- NHwinter
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:10am
  G.E.R – No, they are not on their own. Many charities willingly accept babies for adoption. What century are you living in. Christians aren’t killing anyone. Islamist are killing Christians and everyone else that doesn’t agree with them. You don’t see Christians rioting, burning flags, killing Ambassadors because of anti-Jesus films, or even the killing of Christians. You don’t have Christians demanding a law that prohits the defamation of Jesus. Because we believe in a pro-life agenda, we are now the bad guys? Really??? God doesn’t cause people to kill each other, people do that on their own skewed mentality. I think he has a commandment that says “thou shall not kill”. What Christian likes war and wants young men and women to be killed in war? Your logic is missing a few screws.
  
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- AxelPhantom
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:53am
  No, we don’t believe they are “on their own” once they are born. We believe it is the responsibility of PARENTS to teach their children to one day become productive citizens who do not spend the rest of their adult lives dependent upon others for basic necessities. Here is some of what conservative children are taught;
  
  Hearts pump blood, they do not process information or make good decisions
  
  Examine and learn from your mistakes otherwise they have a way of expanding beyond their original borders
  
  Create dignity in life, not dependency
  
  Respect is earned, not given
  
  You accept responsibility for the consequences of your actions at the time you decide to exercise the action, see #1.
  
  Garbage man or Physician, do the most with what you have to work with.
  
  It takes a parent to raise a child, not the village council.
  
  In life, everyone doesn’t get a trophy just for participating
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  No one can make you feel inadequate without your consent
  
  Common sense ensures you will never go hungry, integrity is the method to apply it legally, education, is the way to make sure everyone knows you at least contemplated the existence of the first two.
  
  Works not words define for others who you are.
  
  Failure is one result of risk, success is another, you decide which result gets the final say in your life
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  If you catch 100 fish you do not owe anyone a fish, but you do owe them a lesson in how to repeat your feat for themselves. See 1-12 above.
  
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- Ken2kilo
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 12:24pm
  GER: I would rather believe in God than spend my eternity in Hell. God is a loving God, whether you believe it or not. Choose life! Deuteronomy 30:19.
  
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- West Coast Patriot
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 12:29pm
  NHwinter, Just to let you know, it has been determined that the attack on the embassy was a terrorist act and not about the video.
  Another thing to let you know, Mitt Romney does not know where he stands on anything: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=EQwrB1vu74c
  
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- NHwinter
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 1:25pm
  West Coast Patriot – I did indeed know it was a terrorist attack, but maybe you should tell that to Obama and Hillary. They are the ones that proclaimed it to be because of the video, even at the UN. When it comes to Romney changing his mind – at least he changes it in a positive direction. I’ll take those changes over Obama’s divide and destroy American agenda anyday.
  
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- Pops
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 3:40pm
  People like G.E.R. worry me. No respect for life. No basic religious values. Seems he must believe that his life or anyone else’s life has no value and could take his own or another’s life with no qualms.
  
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- West Coast Patriot
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 4:50pm
  NHwinter, You miss my point. Any candidate that has to move their position to the left, right or center in order to get your vote, are lying to you. I will not trust Romney. He is among criminals in the way they handled the primary with the violation of federal law. I will not vote for him and no self respecting liberty minded voter will either. He cannot win without the votes he and the RNC through away. Now Glenn, Rush and Levin are trying to beg and plead for Paul supporters to vote for Romney, but it is falling on deaf ears. If you want to see, go to the Daily Paul and read the posts and you will see. We are voting for Gary Johnson, Virgil Goode or writing in Pauls name. We are not the only ones doing this, there are many other Tea Party voters doing the same, so Mitt will not have the numbers to defeat Obama and it is reflected in the polls: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html
  It is in these toss up states that Paul supporters are going to finish him, scroll down to the polls in them. The map shows that before these states Obama is at 165 needing only 5 electoral votes to win. How will Romney conquer that? The only way to change our country’s direction is to send a clear message to both parties and vote third party. I wish more would join to send this message, otherwise, socialism either way with Dems and Repubs.
  
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- LakeHartwellSailor
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 5:23pm
  G.E.R -
  
  I am not going to get up on my soapbox and pontificate and denigrate people who do not believe the way I believe; like you have just done. I will respect your right to do so; but I will do not agree with your rambling rant.
  
  However, with respect to your statement that conservatives only respect life from conception to birth and after that “you are on your own”; I must disagree with your self-righteous opinion. The only people that I have observed that do not respect life are “Progressives”…..and Jihadists. Personally, I respect life from conception to birth and all phases of life thereafter; childhood, teenage years, young adults, middle age, and old age. Death by natural causes is the only “acceptable” death in my view.
  
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- mandmsgirl
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 6:56pm
  Once again GER comes out as dumb… of the day. Sorry there, but what makes you think that life is not sacred? Is your life so miserable and you hate yourself so much that you assume everyone feels this way. Yes your bitterness shines through. You also need to take some Biblical courses if you are going to make judgements on it. The people in the old testamant were so evil they would have destroyed the world and God was not going to allow it to happen, this is why He ordered so many deaths, Christ had not been born, so there was no redemption available, they had to be destroyed.Future life is sacred also and so given a choice, God is going to choose that life continue.
  
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justangry
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 9:50am
Again why it matters is neither issue should even concern the federal government without a constitutional amendment. So what you all really need to know is both of these guys’ positions are progressive and demonstrates how neither is willing to govern within the confines of the Constitution. This is a clear violation of the enumerated powers. Now if you don’t like that… You’re a progressive too. End of story.

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Brother Winston Smith
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 9:37am
Which Romney? The legislating Romney (pro-abortion and ORDERED sodomite/lesbian “marriage”) or the campaigning Romney (liar)?

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- marvel
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:21am
  The Romney who has always been pro-life. In case you didn’t know, Romney is a Mormon, and has served in various leadership capacities throughout his life that would require him to not only be familiar with Church policy, but as agree with it. The Church’s longstanding policy on abortion remains the following:
  
  “The Church opposes abortion and counsels its members not to submit to or perform an abortion except in the rare cases where, in the opinion of competent medical counsel, the life or good health of the mother is seriously endangered or where the pregnancy was caused by rape and produces serious emotional trauma in the mother. Even then it should be done only after counseling with the local presiding priesthood authority and after receiving divine confirmation through prayer.” (http://www.lds.org/new-era/1973/04/policies-and-procedures-statement-on-abortion)
  
  His “pro-choice” position on public policy matters must have another explanation. We don’t have dictators in this country, and sometimes a leader must govern even when there is a majority who wish something he himself believes to be wrong. Latter-day saints also believe in not drinking alcohol, but I don’t know many who would attempt to force that standard on others. That said, Romney is a “convert” in the truest sense, on issue abortion and public policy, after realizing where “harsh logic” on abortion leads. (see http://evangelicalsformitt.org/on-the-issues/)
  
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- marvel
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:41am
  On gay marriage:
  
  - He pushed for an amendment to Massachusetts’ constitution to overturn the same-sex “marriages” that courts have imposed
  - He testified before Congress and wrote to senators in favor of the Federal Marriage Amendment
  - He ordered enforcement of a little-known 1913 law to prevent out-of-state gay couples from getting “married” in Massachusetts and provoking a national constitutional crisis
  - He opposed civil unions and sued his legislature to force a vote on a proposed Massachusetts marriage amendment
  
  (source http://evangelicalsformitt.org/on-the-issues/)
  
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- West Coast Patriot
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 12:20pm
  Marvel, Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quQXZEP7Hlk
  
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- krisbrayeli
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:50pm
  I believe that we try to make this black and white…and very little in life is. I am Pro Life…I believe that life begins at conseption and abortion is murder. That is my black and white answer.
  However I believe that there are times – rape – harm to the mother- that abortion should be allowed and even if we say it is illegal that some people are still going to do it…so I want them to have it done in a safe way so that one mistake does not cause another end of life.
  So I guess I am pro choice – Because an choice of an abortion is between that woman and her God and my job is not to judge – but use my tax money for it and then it becomes between God- that Woman and me and I am back to pro life.
  I guess all in all I am pro choice but made that choice the least option used. Promote adoption and if the decision is abortion make it safe but do not use my dollars to do it.
  Peope change their opinions based on their experiances in life. I personaly want someone who is willing to change…someone who can learn from experiances or learn from mistakes.
  We have a lot facing us right now….I am not sure if abortion is the topic that needs the most discussion from either of them.
  
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- West Coast Patriot
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:05am
  krisbrayeli, Listen to this guy on this subject: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boXVR3grsqU&feature=fvsr
  
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BelieverinChrist
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 9:13am
We the taxpayer should not be held responsible for paying for this. It’s outrageous. Nobody wants to be held accountable for anything anymore. If you’re old enough to play, you’re old enough pay.

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- brotherwil
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 9:34am
  amen brother, paying for the devil’s master plan grates on my bones….keep on pitchin” bw
  
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Jackal7130
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 9:03am
No disrespect to women, of course any intelligible woman wouldnt be offended, but I dont think the president should be elected on his stance on abortion. Maybe just maybe he should be elected upon the premise of if he is a PATRIOT or a TERRORIST? Are you F*****G kidding me with this s**t? Sandra FLUKE is just that. What an appropriate name. YOU CANT MAKE THIS STUFF UP. VOTE MITT ROMNEY VOTE ROMNEY/RYAN.

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- objectivetruth
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 9:51am
  Precisely.There is so much more riding on this election.The one trick pony effect will have no effect.
  We need to save the country from the terrorist in the white house first, then the rest of whatever argument is left, can be had.Why must the candidates use womens reproductive organs to make a point?Its a lttle like political rape.Its disgusting and should stop.It won’t though as they seem to think that is all we think about.The dems are the one pushing it to that point too.They arrogantly and blatantly use the one trick pony effect at their own peril this time around.I’ve talked to women who voted for obazi the first time around simply due to his stance on abortion.They won’t be doing it this time around.Now they understand why I’ve always voted for who I thought the best candidate for the entire country was.Its why I voted against obama.Its also why even though I’m first trimester prochoice I’ve voted for those candidates who happened to be prolife.They were best for the country not the opposition who came into town riding the one trick pony
  
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- brotherwil
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:09am
  don’t you mean 50 million ‘trick ponies’
  
  mr. obama is president because we deserve him.
  
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- brotherwil
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:18am
  does ‘right to life’ mean anything to you who cherish the constitution??? it is simply the quintessential step to liberty. without it what??? no bitter quips please.
  
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woodyee
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:54am
2. In the case of pregnancy out of wedlock where both parties consented to the act, NO abortions allowed for the sake of convenience of either party; BOTH parties and ONLY both parties, are responsible for the health and welfare of the child , and in the case of adoption, both parties are to anonymously share the expenses of the adoptive parents until the child turns 18- period.

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- objectivetruth
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 9:58am
  You are the precise reason that abortion should be legal and mandatory.Your mother should commit suicide in shame for giving birth to a ”thing”like you.Lazy welfare leech that wants to farm womens uterous’s for your own gain.Damn until now I didn’t know that there were such a thing as a womb pimp.Hell, I learn something new everyday ,even if in this case, it came form a moronic ”thing”
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 12:01pm
  You can go back to your cartoons now.
  
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- woodyee
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 1:06pm
  @ DeceptiveLogic and VerceofHysteria -
  
  What, specifically, was it that you didn’t like about my post – that you had no logical retort? I’m sitting here picturing two aborted placentas passing gas, and I feel so foolish for trying to make sense of it…LOL!!!
  
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BelieverinChrist
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:50am
Anyone who is truly a Christian, has to vote for Romney if you have any fear(respect) for God. Jeremiah 1:5 says “Before I formed thee in the womb, I knew thee.” God considers a fetus a living soul.

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- Nepenthe
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 2:09pm
  Please do not tell me, as a Christian, who I must vote for. First Romney is a Mormon and as such does not believe in the Jesus of the New Testament in whom I have been born again. Second, Romney has taken many actions in his business adventures that would clearly go against biblical teaching concerning care for one another and how we are to treat each other.
  
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- krisbrayeli
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:57pm
  “First Romney is a Mormon and as such does not believe in the Jesus of the New Testament in whom I have been born again.” What are you talking about? Thing you are confused on what Mormons believe
  
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KidCharlemagne
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:49am
Romney constantly goes back and forth on abortion:

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“I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time my mom took that position since she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe vs. Wade has been the law for 20 years that we should sustain and support it and I sustain and support that law and the right of a woman to make that choice. And my personal beliefs, like the personal beliefs of other people, should not be brought into a political campaign.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeQGObiGGqY

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- NHwinter
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 9:08am
  KidCharlemagne – Is it ok for Obama to evolve on his position on no gay marriage to ok on gay marraige. From a positive stand to negative in allowing gay marriage? But, it is not ok for Romney to evolve from a pro-abortion stand to a more enlightened position of pro-life? Obama supports abortion, even late term abortion and if a baby survives an abortion and is born, Obama supports the doctor letting that baby died or just killing it. I’d rather have someone who changes his mind and now supports pro-life.
  
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- LDSmommy
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 9:08am
  KidCharlemagne: You mean…..oh, no…I can’t even imagine….he..he…he changed his mind???!!! Oh the horror!
  
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- krisbrayeli
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:54pm
  People change their minds based on lifes experiances and their own growth. Do we not want someone who is willing to learn and change? I do not know about you but I am not the same person with the same ideals and the same ethics that I had 10 years ago. Why should we expect less from Romney? The only thing that Obama stands firm on is that its all Bushes fault.
  
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brotherwil
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:45am
procreation is the paramount fulfillment of human existence…the communion of oppostive sexes brings to mankind it’s true and abiding sense of purpose and joy. behaviour that perverts or degrades this communion tears at the fabric of common decency that holds civilized society intact..

abortion is nothing more that a satanic attempt to obliterate god from the conscience of man…It is a satanic deception designed to steal from man the creator’s first and primary blessing…”BE FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLY.” GENESIS 1:28 by the way….conception is God’s bit entirely, and the children begotten thereby are extremely precious….each and every one…if you can’t love life, please fear God.

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- BelieverinChrist
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 9:09am
  well said.
  
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- TEARS FOR AMERICA
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 12:22pm
  Exactly why homosexuality is WRONG, it does NOT bring forth life.
  
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ColoradoMaverick
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:37am
The abortion issue:

Obama supports murdering innocent life so liberal women and men can enjoy more unprotected sex at our expense.

Romney supports the US Constitution which protects Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. He is also on the side of God. Abortion is murder, it’s as simple as that.

Seems pretty clear to me.

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- Eastinfection
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:51am
  That’s the Declaration of Independence.
  
  Neither Romney or Obama have much use for the Constitution.
  
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- ColoradoMaverick
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 9:46am
  Eastinfection: read the 5th amendment and get back to me please.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:00am
  @COMAV “…. nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation…”
  It’s a stretch but, i see you working Mav so, i’ll go with it….
  
  Current legal precedent has: life occurring at birth, so the liberty references the host (mother) and her property (fetus)
  If you want to change this, 1st you have to change the legal interpretation of person-hood.
  
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Eastinfection
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:27am
The only part of this issue that’s relevant is whether or not the gov. is going to pay for abortions.
Romney is in no hurry to reverse Roe v Wade. It’s lip- service for the base.

I’m voting for Romney because he stands the best chance of getting the economy back on firm footing. If he wins and gets side- tracked with the social baloney i’m going to be pissed.

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- Lennon was a closet Republican
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:58am
  It’s hard for me to know if you’re serious, or on the other side looking to suppress the vote with that ‘base’ reference. If so, you’re good. Of course he’d like to reverse Roe, best through the courts, because that would kick the issue back to the states. Then we’d end up with a collage of states voting for (NY, CA, WA) and against (UT, ID, PA). Abortion would remain available nearby but state politicians would have to begin looking over their shoulders at those Life voters protesting at the state capitol, which up to this point they have been able to ignore because of Roe.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 9:36am
  I’m dead serious. The only part of this issue that has any realistic flexibility is whether or not taxes will fund abortions.
  My and your views on the morality of abortion are effectively irrelevant.
  There are deeper complications to reversing Roe v Wade that make it an issue the Supreme Court would be reluctant to pursue…..
  
  ie: granting person-hood to fetuses would open the door to miles of big brother legislation aimed at pregnant women and the way they treat their bodies during pregnancy… the food they eat, the exercise they get, their psycho-stability, etc.
  
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- krisbrayeli
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:01pm
  I agree – we have much bigger things to worry about!
  We should not pay for them and lets worry about bringing this Country back !!
  Romney/ Ryan 2012
  
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Venustus
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:24am
Wow, it’s sad the culture of death we’ve entered into as a nation. Millions of unborn babies are lost every year to abortion. These are developing humans with heartbeats, fingers, toes and souls. I encourage everyone to check out http://www.ehd.org/ and learn more about developing humans. It’s very fascinating!

Women have been tricked into believing that freedom comes from a Pill and freedom comes from terminating inconvenient pregnancies. Women are less respected and more objectified for their sexuality now more than ever. Freedom does not come from Yaz and it does not come from Planned Parenthood. Freedom does not come from chemically suppressing your fertility and sleeping around. These are lies, and I hope more women are waking up to the truth that they are beautiful and strong, and can control their lives by making healthy relationship decisions without drugs, promiscuity, and dating loser men that have no intention of making real commitments to them.

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- a2native
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:54am
  well put!
  
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Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:07am
Just say Obama is against the Constitution on Abortion and Birth Control and Romney just flip flops.
Notice how “Us Conservatives” sang Repeal Obamacare and are now singing Repeal and Replace Obamacare? We sure sold out,didn’t we?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI7xyFwpjDQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj8Nk3p1wyY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVXyoW8Jy1M

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- NHwinter
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:30am
  Smokey_Bojangles – to use Obama’s own words on his stance on gay marriage – he has evolved. Gov. Romney has evolved or become enlightened on life in the womb.
  
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- Gorp
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:37am
  There is a post on a “Free Cycle” website and the person is giving away an “Obama/Biden 2012″ T-Shirt. He doesn’t need it any more because he’s voting Green Party. I thought WTF.
  
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DeOppressoLiber
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:00am
The Pro Life movement needs to fight the abortion battle one state at a time, more of a unconventional warfare approach. This is what the progressives did with gay rights and they have won or gained a lot of ground.

The one thing at the national level right now should be no federal money for abortions. You want one pay you pay for it.

I am Pro Lufe but this divides the GOP and Independents these days which is what the progressives want.

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- Stoic one
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:36am
  Me personally am pro GET OUT OF OUR DOCTORS OFFICES.
  A woman’s decision on abortion is between her ,her doctor & whatever she calls her spiritual adviser. She may choose to include the father/sperm donor and her family.
  In the financing of this operation, the government HAS NO BUSINESS providing any money whatsoever.
  
  The primary problem with medicine currently IS government meddling .
  
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- Smokey_Bojangles
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:44am
  Stoic,My 22 year old son bugs me.Can I kill him?
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 9:35am
  Thanks you hit the nail on the head.They are trying to divide the gop and the Independents.It won’t work at least not with the Independents I’ve talked to nor with myself.
  
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NHwinter
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 7:58am
Bishop Paprocki says – you need to think and pray very carefully about your vote, because a vote for a candidate who promotes actions or behaviors that are intrinsically evil and gravely sinful makes you morally complicit and places the eternal salvation of your own soul in serious jeopardy.

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- dublinthewagons
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:05am
  A non vote places you in the same jeopardy.
  
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- Exrepublisheep
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:05am
  Vote repub or go to hell?
  
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- dublinthewagons
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:25am
  Exrepublisheep: could you make that a little plainer. LMAO
  A democrat will have a hard time understanding your statement. Love your political correctness.
  
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- NHwinter
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:28am
  Exrepublisheep – One of the 10 Commandments says “thou shall not kill”. There is forgiveness available when one repents. Do the Democrats believe there is no sin in abortion, taking an innocent life? Do you believe there is no sin there?
  
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- Exrepublisheep
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 3:34pm
  NHWINTER. Thou shall not murder is the correct translation. It would be tough to soldiers if killing was banned. Here’s something though, where in the Bible does it say NOT to abort? The Old Testament has Jews totally destroying their enemies, including women and children, animals even buildings. “Happy shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against
  the rock!” (Psalms 137:9)
  
  “The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled
  against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be
  dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open.” (Hosea 13:16)
  
  “Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is
  joined unto them shall fall by the sword.
  Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their
  houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.” (Isaiah 13:15,16)
  
  “Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they
  shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare
  children.” (Isaiah 13:18)ldings.
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:15am
  You need to remember not all conservatives are catholics.Not all are even religious.I don’t follow a organized religion for one simple reason it all boils down to this.The religion states you must do it the way our human interpreter states it should be.Be fill in the blank or wind up in hell.Sorry but I think the creator is far more competent than that.
  Another reason is this the three major religions and their books are in fact the first warfare play books.
  
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jodi
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 7:55am
I guess it is good to know where he stands,this is a tough topic,I believe life is a choice,I also believe that if doctor can live with himself,and the patient has saw the life in her body and still choices to snuff out that life that is between her and her marker….
I wish people where more responsible with their bodies ,but I wish a lot of things,this should be decided by the states and the people that live there.
I’m very uncomfortable with this being a deciding factor,I’m glad he is standing,if this is part of his platform he better sell it because you are or you aren’t.
Praying for Mitt, know what you believe why you believe it stand in the truth and let the chips fall where they may.Please listen to your gut not your handlers.The truth is what we want,we are starving to believe in something real.

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dublinthewagons
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 7:47am
Obama cares more about the life of a spider in San Antonio, TX. Or a minnow in Calif. Than a human life. Sounds like the Taliban. Huh

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- Verceofreason
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 7:56am
  Its the woman’s choice.
  I thought you were the freedom guys.
  Zygotes and fetus don’t make choices.
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 7:59am
  He doesn’t care about those things, he’s just using them like he does everything and everyone else.
  
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- NHwinter
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:08am
  Verceofreason – We are for freedom. The freedom to live. So, some say a woman has the right to do whatever with “her” own body. Well, the fetus has its own body, a separate heart from the mother, it could even be a different sex than the mother. It is a separate human being. Do what you want with your own body, but that separate body is not your body.
  
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- dublinthewagons
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:20am
  Verceofreason: we are guaranteed Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
  Life is mentioned first for a reason. If you have a problem with “life” you have a problem in life ever achieving happiness, now or eternally
  
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- bITsurfer
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:06am
  DUBLINTHEWAGONS, We should not have to pay for murder because people lack discipline and self-control. The Forefathers were wiser than most people realize. Note the order: Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I assert that the first, Life, trumps the other two, and that Liberty, trumps the pursuit of happiness. Your happiness should not end another person’s Life, or infringe upon their Liberty. Your Liberty should not should not infringe end another’s life. There is one exception to the latter. If the servants of the people become tyrants, we have the right, as written in the 2nd amendment, to rise up against the servants and restore our government to the structure. When they wrote our constitution, they took into consideration God and and inalienable rights; they took into consideration our flawed human nature and realized, regardless of education, knowledge, or technology, that human nature IS THE VERY REASON HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF. Re-read your constitution and the warnings to guard against apathy with that in mind.
  
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- bITsurfer
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 11:17am
  Forgive the lack of proof reading: structure ~ *original structure and purpose.
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 12:03pm
  The fetus is in scientific terms – a parasite.
  It cannot survive on its own without a host.
  The host’s rights supersede the parasite’s – in ALL of nature.
- Verceofreason
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 12:05pm
  A fetus is not a human with ‘rights’.
  This is NOT a religious issue.
  Your first TWO mistakes.
- brotherwil
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 12:53pm
  hey verceoftreason….as with all self-deluded thinkers…you believe freedom to be anything and everything i want….NO.NO.NO..FREEDOM IS THE POWER TO DO WHAT I OUGHT!!! and only one can guarantee that paramount victory ….Jesus Christ the crucified and risen Saviour….
  
  GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH RECONCILLING THE WORLD TO HIMSELF…
  
  I AM THE LIFE…..-JESUS- abortion is our real enemy’s attempt to obliterate God from our hearts.
  
  any reasonable questions??
  
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- bITsurfer
  Posted on October 1, 2012 at 2:13pm
  VOICEOF…..REASON?, I have two questions. Does your philosophy determine your morality, or does your morality determine your philosophy? Secondly, on what is your morality based? The answer to that, sadly enough for many, is the real question upon which true wisdom and happiness pivots. Without the correct answer you and so many others are awash in a hopeless sea of ….. whatever you think life is about. Brotherwil is on the right track.
  
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Sharon Rose
Posted on October 1, 2012 at 7:42am
If life means anything, its a no brainer who I will vote for. R/R 2012

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