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‘Man Fails’: Seminary Professor Claims Stay-at-Home Fatherhood is Un-Biblical

Oct. 2, 2012 12:59pm Billy Hallowell

Professor Owen Strachan: Stay at Home Fatherhood is Not Biblical

Professor Owen Strachan (Photo Credit: Courier-Journal.com)

Professor Owen Strachan of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky, has a message for stay-at-home dads: You are violating the gender roles that are highlighted and espoused in the Bible. Strachan’s views, which are obviously controversial in nature, have led the academic to refer to “dad moms,” men to choose to stay home and raise their children as “man fails” — a less-than-flattering title.

In The Journal for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, Strachan, who teaches about Christian theology and church history, wrote an article entitled, “Of ‘Dad Moms’ and ‘Man Fails’: An Essay on Men and Awesomeness.” In it, he affirmed that women — not men — are “called to the high calling of raising families, given that God blesses them with children and making homes, being homemakers.”

Here’s a portion from the article that showcases Strachan’s views on the issue of gender roles:

Does this mean, though, that if a man folds laundry he is some sort of spineless creature, giving up his God-given duties for work he should not countenance? Not at all. There is nothing biblically to indicate that it’s wrong for a man to pitch in where he can to help his wife. I do not think a husband is called to be a homemaker as a wife is, but neither do I experience personal internal conflict when I wash some dishes at night to help out my wife, who has been nurturing small children and executing countless household tasks all day while I’ve worked to provide. Complementarianism, with its connection between the husband’s work and Christ’s provision, sets the bar higher for men than the culture does.

It’s not easier to be a godly man; you can’t claim the title “lord of the home” and then plop yourself into the easy chair to watch ESPN and lose yourself in your iPhone, leaving discipline and training and teaching to your wife. Contrary to what we see most everywhere in our society today, men are not called by God to tune out from the family and merely make money. No, men are supposed to lead in all areas, including training of the children, discipline, and opportunities for sacrifice.

In a Moody Radio interview on September 25, the professor defended his views, claiming that the biblical nature of men and women is contrary to much of what we’re seeing in today’s society. During the interview he defined the overall views he holds about males and females in detail — stances that have drawn the ire of critics.

“I would say both men and women bear the image of God and so are fully invested for a life of meaningful service for God,” Strachan proclaimed. “That’s my starting point, but I would say then from a broad biblical theology that men are called to be leaders, providers, protectors and women are nurturers.”

During the radio appearance, the professor debated Matt Peregoy, a stay-at-home father who rejects the professor’s views on stay-at-home dads and “man fails.” The Associated Baptist Press has more about the debate:

Matt Peregoy, a stay-at-home dad in Gettysburg, Pa., who blogs at The Real Matt Daddy, told Moody Radio’s Julie Roys that he is happier, healthier and his marriage is stronger than ever since he quit his job and became primary caretaker for his daughter a year and a half ago.

Peregoy said that for the first year after his daughter was born he worked in retail while his wife stayed at home. Eventually, however, he felt the odd hours he worked was keeping him away from his family, while his wife’s former employer was begging her to come back to work full time.

Strachan commended Peregoy for his concern for his family, but he said the Bible outlines “a definitive plan for men that begins in Genesis and is elaborated throughout the rest of the Scripture.”

Read more about the controversial debate — and Strachan’s views on the matter — over at The Associated Baptist Press.

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drusher
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:32pm
Owen Strachan fully avoids the core problem: the breakdown of marriage. Blaming men for adapting to what feminism did suggests you have a bad attitude about men. We do not need more feminists masquerading as biblical scholar. Bearing false witness and very destructive. Today’s men are merely adapting to the realities of feminist society where men are instantly replaceable by a child support order / welfare check.

Mr. Strachan, you have not done anything until you have addressed the demise of marriage and urged policies to reverse this terrible trend. We are working on that with leading policymakers and Christians. I encourage you to take this journey instead of tinkering with gender issues, from which no answers can possible emanate.

David R. Usher, President
Center for Marriage Policy

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- jwt
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:09pm
  First are we talking to Christians or people of the world? If to Christians, are we to judge our brothers?maybe the Lord can take of the changes needed. Of course the lord is powerless to bring his children to prefection and needs our help. 2nd temptation (Luke)
  
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- Fatheroftwo
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:28pm
  I suggest all of you read the Bible!! Then make your own choices, for that is what God gives us, Free choice! This man neither sights book nor verse in his opinion and then chooses to make judgments of others based on that opinion which is his problem, not mine!! I’m happy with my choice, so are my kids and my wife and when God calls me home it will be me and not him who will stand before God! That’s it!!!
  
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- The_Pointy_End
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 12:26am
  It is upsetting to see this “Christian” professor give his opinion like it is based in biblical fact. The biblical role of the husband/father is to be the guide who sets the direction for his household. This is not to be confused with a dominating husband (which I suspect of Mr. Strachan). I suggest he reread 1 and 2 Corinthians in the bible. The husband is to provide for and nurture the physical, emotional, educational, and spiritual needs of his family. Didn’t see going to work from 8-5 in God’s lineup.
  
  Mr. Strachan’s personal belief is that a husband who stays at home is incapable of being a leader therefore unable to set the direction of his household. Mr. Strachan’s personal belief has nothing to do with God. A husband who stays at home, contrary to a workaholic, can be a far better guide in the direction of his household. This is not to say a workaholic cannot be a good family leader either. Like in all marriages there must be a negotiated balance. There are plenty of “traditional” marriages where the wife makes all the decisions and the husband is along the the ride or the husband is a dictator and the wife is along for the ride. IMHO Mr. Strachan family falls into the latter and he needs to be focusing on the log in his eye, and stop giving his justification as fact.
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 8:04am
  The core is that THERE IS NO PROBLEM.
drusher
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:23pm
Dear Owen: Where does the bible mandate that men cannot be primary parents? What are men supposed to do in a day when women often make more than they can? Women who run a bank need a guy who will raise the kids and run the business of “home”. What is wrong with that?

Some men are lousy breadwinners and great parents.

I am not an advocate for gender neutrality. I am very conservative. I am pointing out the realities of today’s employment and family structures. Feminism made major changes to society, now men are finally adapting to fit in. How can you frap them with a bible for doing that??

Most men want to be the breadwinner, and most women want to raise the kids. That is what happens in most cases. But there are many other cases where good Christian men and women either share or reverse the roles and do just fine with it.

If you are going to take this stance, your next article should be to tell women they have to go home and bake cookies. You need to pen a blistering article about feminism to dig yourself out of this hole. Or, are you too chicken to do that?

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- sheepiedogs
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 5:13pm
  The problem started when men started failing to provide and women had to educate and learn to provide for their children and them selves. Also, the government starting giving welfare to women with children to provide for them and so we are in a quandry as far as obeying the bible. There is no easy answer to the question you pose. You have to take that up with God and let Him guide you in that decision as to the role you take in the family. I would think a man would lose some kind of level of respect when he depends on his wife to provide no matter the amount.
  
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- drusher
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 6:04pm
  Sheepiedogs: I hate to tell you this, but men did not invent the radical feminist movement. Men do just fine when they are married. They care for their women and work their tails off to support them. Radical feminism established feminist jurisprudence in law schools, federal law, and state law. 75% of divorces are initiated by women. Illegitimacy is usually a woman who wanted to get pregnant or did not care about getting pregnant because of large sums of freebies (housing, income, cell phones, etc) that Democrats are pushing in this election. Outside of marriage, men have no stake in society. Is it not slavery to demand that men turn over half or more of their income to feminist government who won’t even let them be fathers or be a part of society? Slavery is defined as “forced labor for the benefit of another person for which nothing is received in return”. That is exactly what the welfare state demands, and I can show you prisons half full of low-income men who cannot earn enough money to pay what the federal government demands they pay in child support.
  
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- drusher
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 6:17pm
  Sheepiedogs: your comment points to the fatal weakness and flaw of Strachans shallow view of men and his weak view about religion. Marriage is the foundation of the church. The first priority of the church must be to restore hetero marriage as the social norm. That means settling for some marriages where women earn the big bucks. Married men have a stake in society and a role to fulfill. Most men want the respect and place in American life that only marriage provides.
  
  The feminist welfare state is the #1 enemy of religion and the church. Any pastor, priest, or other religious leader who fails to work on that ensures further decline of marriage as the welfare state continues to build big government.
  
  We have great policies that will end no-fault divorce, decrease poverty and illegitimacy, balance budgets, and rebuild urban cores using the manpower and womanpower that only marriage harnesses. Religious leaders must focus on marriage policy and help us get it enacted. This is the only way to reverse the problems of so many single mothers, unattached men, taxpayers, and the impossible task politicians have trying to reduce deficit spending. Marriage-absence is the primary driver of deficit spending at the federal level, and it the #1 item states spend their money on. If we work on this together, we can and will rebuild America.
  
  David R. Usher, President
  Center for Marriage Policy
  marriagepolicy.org
  
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- Thisisareallylongusernameisntit
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:08pm
  @Drusher, your problem is that your priorities are in the wrong place. Who cares if a woman can make more money than a man? That is not the point. The traditional family is under assault and you are abetting the enemy. The truth of the matter is women typically do a better job of raising and nurturing children than men. Men are commanded by God to provide for their family. Who are you to argue with Him? What is more important, to make more money or to provide your children with a structured family as ordained by God? This is not to put women down, as being a mother in the home is one of the most important jobs in the world, but take a look at the families raised for the first 175 years in America (think George Washington, Abe Lincoln, Ronald Regan), and then look at the moral decay we have seen in the past 60 years with a society where men are not taking their responsibility as leaders seriously (think Bill Clinton Barry Obama). Which generations as a whole do you think have done a better job of raising their children? Are there exceptions, sure, but they are just that–exceptions.
  I guess it is true…The love of money is the root of all evil…thanks for demonstrating that so clearly.
  
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- ModerationIsBest
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 12:02am
  @SHEEPIEDOGS
  
  This person just said it was a bad thing for women to get educated.
  
  Rofl,
  
  Your mind on religion.
  
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- mtcountrygrl
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 12:28pm
  The Bible says woman was created to be “man’s help mate” not the other way around. You cannot be your husband’s helper, if your career is your priority. Woman’s lib has done more to destroy the family than any other movement. I am to be my husband’s crown. I strive every day to see that he is “praised at the city gates”. I work from home and homeschool our children. But I make my supporting role to my husband my number one priority. I do all the finances and marketing for his businesses. I make sure all his licenses are current. I cold call clients and drum up work. I run all his errands, so he can focus on his business. And I make his lunches and have dinner on the table when he gets home. He tells me every day that he could not be successful without me. That my friends is a “help mate”.
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 6:05pm
  You’re very much right, mtcountrygirl:
  
  http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/sexism.html
  
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ToddH
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:16pm
Americans keep having fewer and fewer kids with each generation ever since the 1950s (the baby-boom). Today only a handful of couples feel safe in our current economy to start families.
This is the reason we need so much immigration: because Americans won’t have children to pay for their social security retirement funds when they reach that age. Too many childless couples.
Hmm, I wonder why?

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- DimmuBorgir
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:25pm
  too bad blacks and mexicans haven’t gotten the memo and breed like crazy regardless of their financial stability.
  
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okaaay
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 3:44pm
Tell that to my son, the Iraq vet who can’t find a job.

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- justangry
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:15pm
  Don’t let any of these bat crap crazy zealots tell you that your son is doing anything wrong.
  
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- DimmuBorgir
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:28pm
  Well tell your son to get a job. I’m an OIF veteran too. I contract so my jobs are 6-12 months. So i’ve had plenty of interviews since I got out and you know what they all have in common??
  
  They love veterans. Seriously almost any hiring manager would rather have a veteran over a civilian any day because of the hard work ethic we are proven to have.
  
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- Libertyluvnmomma
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:04pm
  What do you want told to your son?
  
  that you can’t read an article without taking it personally and you have taken it out of context, as well??
  
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Venustus
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 3:42pm
The Life of a Modern, LIBERATED Woman:

Turn fourteen, have sex with your teen boyfriend, have a secret abortion, get free birth control, continue with broken sexual relationships throughout high school, forget your birth control one night, get pregnant again, have another abortion, go to college, have more broken relationships, advocate for Planned Parenthood on your college campus because they helped you in the tough times, attend Women’s Lib classes, experiment with your roommate, finish college, move to New York, work slavishly for ten years for different magazine publications for women, get on anti-depressants, go numb…

…have another string of bad relationships intermixed with online dating disappointments and another abortion, start a blog about being single and thirty, and then single and thirty-five, mock women who wasted their lives on rearing children and missed the fulfillment of a career, move back to your home town at 42 and advocate for birth control and sex education in the local schools, switch anti-depressants because the old one won’t cut it anymore, go door-knocking for Obama’s re-election campaign because he’s for women’s rights, buy a quaint fixer-upper home, move in and curl up one night on the couch with one hand on your barren womb and the other around a glass of red wine, tears rolling down your face while you wonder how the Hell you ended up alone and emptier than the bottles of Merlot on your vintage coffee table…

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- basque
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:11pm
  well said
  
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- thekuligs
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:20pm
  Lord, that does sound depressing. I like my way. Two years at the community college, because I don’t need a degree and a hundred grand in student debt to write books. Marry the love of my life–and see the world together while raising five kids. Then realize there is still no place better than home (Texas).
  
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- ToddH
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:22pm
  Haha. Funny but true.
  
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- 762
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:31pm
  wow… You took the words right outta my mouth!!
  Problem is we as people deem the right thing as what is socially acceptable when if we would think logically and god fearing then this country would be in a better? Perhaps, spot. I’m 28 y/o and my parents taught me Morals, truth, responsibility, and to never Steal, Unfortunately it is my parents generation that for the better part failed in raising their children with any of the said status so in turn my generation does What Feels Right. We are free to make our own choices but are not free from the consequences that follow! God bless everyone and hope i didn’t tread on anyone with my statement
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 7:35pm
  The life of the liberated woman.
  Make ALL your own choices.
  Period.
  
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- HughAkston
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 6:23am
  Wow. I gotta say that was amazing. Well put. I’ve been unable to put these very thoughts into words, but you just did it for me. Far too many women I’ve known have followed down this path. Makes me thankful to have my plot in the world.
  
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- HughAkston
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 6:26am
  Oh yeah, add cheap romance novels next to the bottle of red wine, or dimwitted John Cusack romantic comedies on HBO at night.
  
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Centralsville
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 3:19pm
One more thing. Islam is a male dominated society. The West is a female dominated society. Guess which one wins in the end. We have already lost the war in the Middle East. Their influence will keep growing while ours shrinks. Armies run by homosexuals and women don’t win wars.

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- Hanner
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:24pm
  This Nation needs a serious “Elijah” moment. For the Bible scholars, it is when he confronted the Nation of Israel over worshiping false Gods on Mount Carmel(they were worshiping more than just Baal). Let the God who answers by fire be God. There is so much unbelief, and confusion on where to stand on anything it is stunning. This is happening in God’s own house!!! We have the bible to study and people are still confused. Is it confusion or a stubborn “religious” stance? You decide. The Internet is a very useful study tool.
  
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Centralsville
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:24pm
There are Biblical roles for men and women. The man is intended to be the provider and the leader of the family. However, our courts and feminism have destroyed the traditional family. Feminism is the greatest change to our country since it’s foundation. It is the single most destructive force in our country today. It is the major cause of the destruction of our families, the rise of homosexuality, the sexual revolution, our bulging prison rates, the breakdown of our schools and discipline in our society, divorce, the rise of political correctness, our national debt through the countless government programs to single mothers and their impoverished children and the murder of millions in the wombs of their mothers. Modern feminism is directly from Satan and the churches have completely failed in standing up to it. Even women preaching in many of our churches today is forbidden in the same Bible they use. The truths of the Bible are as true today as the day they were written. Modern society is failing due to this modern feminism and the destruction of our families and our morality. Today it is even infecting our military and destroying it. We are quite literally going to become a nation of bastards.

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- neubienose
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:32pm
  and you have people locked in your basement, don’t you?
  
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- Centralsville
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 3:14pm
  And you have the blood on your hands of the millions of aborted babies in America. I don’t care any more. America is finished. The black community now has 75 percent of their babies born out of wedlock. Whites are closing the gap and hispanics are at 50 percent. Our nation has a debt of 16 trillion dollars we can’t pay back. We incarcerate more of our population than any other modern nation. Number one factor, no father. Modern feminism has only been tried for one generation now. In one generation we went from the greatest nation on earth to a nation failing. I don’t care if you are too stupid to see it. I know that I am alone and most of the country can’t see the reasons for it’s own demise. Since we were little children reading our textbooks we have been brainwashed into this feminist ideology. You are too brainwashed to argue with. Too stupid to see the truth.
  
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- colt1860
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:25pm
  @Centralsville I agree. You ain’t alone. Feminism, led by Marxist ideology, has destroyed the family. We are a nation of pansies, and cowards. Men don’t want to take responsibility anymore. They hold no duty over their heads to raise up children to be useful and beneficial in a free society. Instead, they teach them to be slothful, couch potatoes, and know nothing fools. The public schools as run today are largely to blame also. I’m not married, but when I am, there’s no way I’m sending my kids off to some strangers I don’t know for six hours, wherein they get to meet Joe the Slob’s kid from down the block. Schools should be run again locally, by families, communities or churches, not federal bureaucracies, state mandates or public unions.
  
  “Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged.” US Northwest Ordinance, July 13, 1787
  
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- colt1860
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:27pm
  Webster’s 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language reads:
  
  EDUCA’TION, n. [L. educatio.] The bringing up, as of a child, instruction; formation of manners. Education comprehends all that series of instruction and discipline which is intended to enlighten the understanding, correct the temper, and form the manners and habits of youth, and fit them for usefulness in their future stations. To give children a good education in manners, arts and science, is important; to give them a religious education is indispensable; and an immense responsibility rests on parents and guardians who neglect these duties.
  
  Merrian-Webster today reads:
  
  ed·u·ca·tion
  noun \ˌe-jə-ˈkā-shən\
  1
  a : the action or process of educating or of being educated; also : a stage of such a process
  b : the knowledge and development resulting from an educational process
  2 : the field of study that deals mainly with methods of teaching and learning in schools
  
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zoro51
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:21pm
single fathers have a hard time single mothers as well IF one parent works n the other watches SAVING MONEy tell me where in the BIBLE is it SIN?????? this PROFESSOR needs to hit rock bottom n find out whats what stop teaching n GO READ THE BIBLE

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The Third Archon
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:14pm
“executing countless household tasks all day while I’ve worked to provide.”
LOL–because teaching a bunch of archaic nonsensical mystical metaphysical ******** contrived by humans EVEN STUPIDER THAN THEY ARE TODAY, from an oh-so-enlightened age were slavery was considered perfectly acceptable, natural, and common practice (hell, JUSTIFIED by many of these selfsame PARAGONS of “moral” authority, as part of “God’s plan”), to justify the power and privilege enjoyed by the elites in the status quo and to exert control over the lives of those living in squalor and provide a justification for the gross and immoral inequities is WORK–yeah, that’s REAL useful WORK, what you’re teaching; it’s DEFINITELY not a completely irrelevant at best, and grossly wicked at worst, set of rituals and superstitions that serve no use to humanity, and in fact rationalize its greatest obstructions to GENUINE morality. Nope–you’re SOME saint.

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- neubienose
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:24pm
  I get that, but why here?
  
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- sldjulius
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:26pm
  Dude… why are you here? Go to an atheist forum where everyone will pat your back for your assinine worldview.
  These debates are for people who are trying to live the way God wants them to live. If that doesn’t decribe you, take your opinions elsewhere.
  
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- neubienose
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:29pm
  I meant nobody here would understand it
  
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- neubienose
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:44pm
  read it again, even better the second time.
  
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- Oldmantex
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 3:08pm
  The Third Arch, have you stripped naked and run through the halls of your college today?
  
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- colt1860
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:35pm
  They always mention slavery, though many of our founders opposed it. It was made lawful as a compromise with the Southern states in order to ratify the Constitution and unify the colonies against Britain. Thirdnut is a Marxist.
  
  Frederick Douglas would have b***slapped Thirdnut. Here are a few quotes from Douglas:
  
  It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men.
  
  If there is no struggle, there is no progress.
  
  I prayed for twenty years but received no answer until I prayed with MY legs.
  
  I am a Republican, a black, dyed in the wool Republican, and I never intend to belong to any other party than the party of freedom and progress.
  
  Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.
  
  I recognize the Republican party as the sheet anchor of the colored man’s political hopes and the ark of his safety.
  
  People might not get all they work for in this world, but they must certainly work for all they get.
  
  Man’s greatness consists in his ability to do and the proper application of his powers to things needed to be done.
  
  The life of the nation is secure only while the nation is honest, truthful, and virtuous.
  
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- The Third Archon
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 5:39pm
  “They always mention slavery, though many of our founders opposed it.
  Funny how it still managed to make it into the U.S. Constitution.
  “It was made lawful as a compromise with the Southern states in order to ratify the Constitution and unify the colonies against Britain.”
  You mean the federal constitution, the constitution ratified AFTER the war with Britain for independence?
  
  Frederick was a Republican in the time when Republicans were Radical–when being a Republican meant opposition to slavery, a concern for the less fortunate, and the willpower to actually DO something about this compassion, even at great personal risk. That ended in 1877 when they sold out blacks to the southern “Redeemers”–take a wild guess what they sought to “Redeem”.
  
  Also, note the use of Glenn Beck’s dirty word “PROGRESS” in this quote–
  “I am a Republican, a black, dyed in the wool Republican, and I never intend to belong to any other party than the party of freedom and progress.”
  It’s not an accident–why? Because in the days of its formation the Republicans were the LEFTISTS of their day–RADICALS (and they were even CALLED that) who dared disrupt the status quo with the EXTREME notion that maybe blacks were human beings too, deserving rights regardless of skin color.
  
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- colt1860
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 6:54pm
  He used progress in its real sense, in wanting to expand human liberty, not Government power. Progress today means Big Government, Government intervention, Government dependency, and limited liberties resulting in collective rights. He was a real patriot in that he adhered to the will of the Constitution, and did not wish to fundamentally transform it. He said, “Had the Constitution dropped down from the blue overhanging sky, upon a land uncursed by slavery, and without an interpreter, although some difficulty might have occurred in applying its manifold provisions, yet so cunningly is it framed, that no one would have imagined that it recognized or sanctioned slavery.” He was real patriot, unlike you.
  
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BellaMia7
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:56pm
For millenia men have worked “at home” on the farm. They were around. They were in the house at lunch time and dinner time. Women were home production specialists canning, sewing, cooking, cleaning – all related to home production. Only the industrial revolution took men off the farms and into factories.

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texasderek
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:53pm
For all the women who are having to support your families… I commend you.
For all you men out there who are dependent on the woman making more…shame on you for not trying harder.
My Father on Earth and My Father in Heaven both taught me to make enough money to take care of my Family.
My wife works now because she wants to but she did not do that at the expense of our children or because her husband could not make enough money to support her.
I have no problem with women working but they should not have to supplement a lazy mans salary.
I have said this before and I will say it again… “If you cannot find a job or make enough money in your field…you should change fields”.
I have found in my many years on this Earth that a woman will do what it takes to survive when she has children…and a lot of men will just sit on their butts and let them.

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- halfbag
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 3:09pm
  So if you are a Minister and make $50,000.00 a year and your wife is a neurosurgeon making $250,000.00 a year you have two options. You either have to quit and find a job that pays more than her or she has to quit and make less than you and still continue to afford to raise your six kids?
  
  The man is to be the spiritual head of the household if a man is doing that than the man is doing exactly what he is supposed to be doing. I pray that you are not raising a daughter fella, cause if she’s hearing this from her dad she’s going to believe she has no future but to be a baby factory.
  
  A man makes less than his wife only because he is lazy, that must be in the Bible (maybe in II opinions). I think you are getting what your dad told you mixed up with what the Bible says. You couldn’t be more wrong. Well maybe you could but it would take a significant effort.
  
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- DimmuBorgir
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:34pm
  if you’re a minister your parish pays for your house. so yeah 50k should be good.
  
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The Third Archon
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:51pm
“‘MAN FAILS’: SEMINARY PROFESSOR CLAIMS STAY-AT-HOME FATHERHOOD IS UN-BIBLICAL”
Yeah, there’s no War on Women–conservatives’ slavish devotion to traditional gender roles doesn’t stifle the liberty of women or give them the ****** end of the bargain AT ALL. Deeming women’s primary responsibility is to be home-makers, dependent on their husbands for income, not needing education of course, working as unpaid, probably un-thanked, part-domestic servants part-nannies, and with no need for contraceptives or, GOD FORBID, abortions (and why WOULD they–their sole purpose in life, after all, is to have, and take care of, the family and the home); yeah, THAT isn’t a definition of gender roles that is patriarchal and hostile to women’s interests AT ALL. NEVER.

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- Female
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:30pm
  You just described the “Failure of men” and its effect on women.
  
  As soon as, a men start having monthly bleeding, hormonal fluxes and producing babies through their own womb…….then let’s talk equality as a realistic possiblity.
  
  You describe women having it bad in traditional roles, yet, modern roles have them doing the traditionals of both men and women. The good news is With sperm banks…men are going to be obsolete much sooner than woman. The future Amazons based on the greek mythologies or
  The Big Lie; the “enjoli” perfume commercial:
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA4DR4vEgrs
  
  The BIG LIE
  
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- Oldmantex
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 3:18pm
  Third Arch
  Like I said before, there is a Math College course just waiting for you to strip down in and go on a rant!!!
  You are on the edge man, take your MEDS!!
  
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- bgotts27
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:49pm
  So I’m trying to make a determination: are you too “intellectually challenged” to grasp what he is teaching, or are you just plain unintelligent?
  
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- The Third Archon
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 5:48pm
  “As soon as, a men start having monthly bleeding, hormonal fluxes and producing babies through their own womb…….then let’s talk equality as a realistic possiblity.”
  So…because of minor physiological differences, women don’t deserve equal treatment? Even though sexual physiological differences don’t matter to a lot of important things, like legal status, nor is it a static and universal difference–that is, there is more variance WITHIN the sexes than BETWEEN them.
  “You describe women having it bad in traditional roles, yet, modern roles have them doing the traditionals of both men and women. ”
  Yes–it’s not an improvement to maintain the traditional roles AND pile on modern expectations. I never claimed as much; what I DID say was that traditional roles ARE the problem. The expectation that one sex, or the other, by virtue of unchosen sexual organs should have completely arbitrary, unrelated, and inequitable duties foisted upon them IS the problem with the static traditional gender roles. People should be able to chose for themselves, and WHEN they are allowed to do so, the division of duties is more equitable as a result. It’s no ACCIDENT, that in countries where women ARE allowed to be educated, chose their own partners, and have access to contraception and/or abortion, most of them CHOOSE not to be domestic servant baby factories living at the mercies and whims of another–that’s WHY 1st world fertility rates aren’t 3rd world fertility rates.
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 7:33pm
  This guy has his head up the 1950′s.
  Women, in great numbers, joined the work force as men fought WWII.
  And they never went back to homemaking – unless THEY wanted too.
  
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- colt1860
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 12:57am
  @Verceofreason
  
  I suggest that in our next big war we send men, in great numbers, into the work force while our women fight the war. I hope the men never go back to any wars again, unless they want too.
  
  Feminism is stupid.
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 6:31pm
  THE REAL WAR ON WOMEN
  
  http://thepeoplescube.com/current-truth/tales-from-the-war-on-women-t8608.html
  
  Straight from the front lines, to you!
  
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mcsledge
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:50pm
In a similar matter, God will not hold a woman blameless who puts her career over family. The divine gift of creation (child birth) was given to woman for a purpose. Hers is to nurture and raise; his is to provide and protect.

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- neubienose
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:35pm
  really,
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 8:40pm
  OMG the hunter/gatherer thing is SOOOOOOOOO 15,000 years ago.
  
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Back To Reality
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:49pm
His views are socially stunted, ideologically immature, and Constitutionally challenged.

It’s amusing that people think that “Head of Household” means “has a job.”

A friend of mine is an excellent stay-at-home dad while his wife works as a physician. Their family is more sound and raised better than most. Probably even better than this clown’s kids.

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Mobuy
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:41pm
I’m loving all the judgmental comments about other people’s decisions on how to take care of their family! Remove my mote, you good Christians!

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:55pm
  By all means, go ahead and live your life the way you desire. The worst that anybody here may do is pray for you.
  
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- mcsledge
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:05pm
  If God told man to leave his father and his mother and to become one with his wife, is a Christian wrong to challenge attacks on the family? NO!
  
  If God told man to multiple and procreate with his spouse, is a Christian wrong for challenging illigitimate births, abortions, or failing to have children when one is able? NO!
  
  If God told man that he is worse than an infidel if he does not provide for his own, is a Christian wrong for challenging men who fail to provide for their own? NO!
  
  And yet, God has made all of these declarations through His servants, the prophets.
  
  If you want to push Bible themes, you had better know the Bible first. Should we return to stoning? Wasn’t judgment involved in these situations? Ignorance is true bliss for the godless.
  
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- Mobuy
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:06pm
  Aw, that’s nice, RJJinGadsden, except that you’re not really being nice, you’re being passive-agressive.. But you might want to pray for those with a beam in their eye, as well.
  
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- neubienose
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:39pm
  RJJinGadsden …no you won’t, pray for my destruction…sure
  
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- Mobuy
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 5:44pm
  McSledge, I’m missing the part of the Bible that says “Man should work and woman should stay home.” For one thing, did you know that until the invention of the dishwasher (or so), woman’s work was just as financially necessary as the man’s? It was division of labor, not money/childcare. Women had to put up the produce a man, by his bigger muscles, was more capable of bringing in, make clothes, make CLOTH for the clothes, and do a bunch of other financially necessary stuff. Life is different now. I could just as easily get into a Bible-bashing session with you, but I’m just going to reiterate what you and so many like you miss: Matthew 7:1. Judge not that ye be not judged. (I’m partial to the King James.) Are the children happy and well taken care of? Are both spouses happy? Is there enough money for the necessities of life? Then **** OUT.
  
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- Mobuy
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 5:49pm
  Oh, and Mcsledge? Bringing up stonings, then saying we don’t do that anymore…well, are you saying that some of the Bible no longer applies? No? Which parts?
  
  And I have plenty of Biblical education, thank you. I’ve read both the Old and New Testaments. Attend church every week. And guess what? Still think being a stay-at-home dad is awesome and can be great for the kids, and don’t see what the other random Bible quotes have to do with anything.
  
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texasderek
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:40pm
I completely agree with what Professor Strachan is saying.
The problem with todays men is they will not continually develop skills that help them in supporting their families. They are content with just learning how to do one thing in their lives and if they cannot find meaningful employment doing that they give up.
In my life I have been a Journeyman Ironworker, Journeyman Pipefitter, Welder, Carpenter, poured Concrete, hung drywall, dug ditches and many many many more things.
I am currently a Manager of Information Technology !!!
So all you whining men out there who cannot provide for your family…. grow up and learn different ways to support your wife and kids….and yourselves.

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- Messianic-Jew
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:47pm
  Amen! I started as a ditch digger at 16 and climbed up the ladder with Gods help and Ambition and Now Work as a Construction Manager for a Large Development Company.
  
  Point being. If you are a God fearing man and won’t to do as God commends he will pave the way for you if you seek him and are a hard worker.
  
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- neubienose
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:23pm
  Hey we have a winner! He is the manlest of the manly. Hold on……sorry I had to put my nail polish down. Lets see..hmmmm I was a beekeeper, worked in tree service, sold GUNS for a while, waiter, construction then computer support, consultant, webmaster…boom layed off. I since have OWNED a pool business, courier, sweat shop golf course mapper…..boom layed off. Now I look for jobs that at most pay 14/hr. ….My wife of 32 years makes more a year than anybody I know peronally….Even when I worked for 6 figures…she has always out ranked me, which makes makes me PROUD not upset.
  One thought …value of DIY. I am home now, have repainted the inside of the house, about to do the outside, relandscaped the front yard, cutting down 50 ft trees and I am a damn good cook. They wanted to charge about $14,000 for painting,,,,I could work 6-8 months to pay for that or do myself in 2 months. Sorry gotta go time for my **** APPOINTMENT…those 3 strands have gotten way too long..
  
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I Luv America
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:37pm
I work with an extremely religious (Christian) woman who would agree with this professor. Basically, she thinks women must take a subservient role to men in all things.

Funny that she is still working at age 73 while her 75-year-old husband is retired and stays at home.

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- The Third Archon
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:17pm
  “Basically, she thinks women must take a subservient role to men in all things.”
  Well religion has a long and illustrious track record as one of the best institutions at getting people to credulously swallow ******** that is patently and grossly against their own interests, and immoral and socially harmful besides.
  
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:30pm
“But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.”

1 Timothy 5:8

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- Conservophiliac
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:49pm
  Before you quote out of context read before that. It is talking about widows and orphans in your family. To interpret that to mean someone who does not work would mean that any Christian who is out of a job is worse than an infidel… which is obviously not the case.
  
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- sldjulius
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:15pm
  No, all that does is EXTEND the obligation, making it even MORE demanding; that EVERYONE in your family, including your extended family, is your moral obligation and to neglect to provide for them would be sinful. It doesn’t mean widows and orphans are your only obligation; that would simply make no sense.
  The problem today is that not only have men lost the sense of responsibility to provide for the care of their extended household, they’ve lost the sense entirely, feeling perfectly at ease collecting a check from the government while they browse for jobs that are up to their standards. Instead of getting out there and doing anything they can to be industrious and provide for their family with their own two hands.
  
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- DeathRattle
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:18pm
  @Conservophiliac
  
  Ty for clearly stating this, saved me some typing, it is amazing those that take the Bible so completely out of context as to serve their own purposes and in the end only make themselves look like fools.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:22pm
  Hey genius, I know the context. The context is Paul telling Timothy to advise the churches to care for widows, but to warn the men not to be deadbeats. In fact, you might want to read on down to verse 16 when Paul is telling people to care for their own widows in their family if they can so the church can care for those widows who have no family support.
  
  “16 If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed.”
  
  Besides, all I did was post the verse. The complete verse from the King James Bible. I suggest you take about 2 minutes and do a Bible study and an grammar class might help. It’s hard to take something out of context when I didn’t offer any context. The verse speaks for himself.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:27pm
  @DEATHRATTLE
  
  Well, let’s have at it. Let’s go verse by verse in 1 Timothy Chapter 5 and I’ll let you try to explain to me how that verse was taken out of context. (Especially since I supplied no context).
  
  Go back to your liberal cave troll, lest you get educated in the Truth.
  
  Even an atheist would understand this verse.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:29pm
  If nothing else, I’ve outed 2 dead beats.
  
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blackyb
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:26pm
The professor is right.

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Edohiguma
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:22pm
This professor needs a lesson in real life.

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- mcsledge
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:38pm
  Real life may not be God’s way of doing things. Men have obviously perverted nature. They have also failed in many respects to understand the purpose of the family unit.
  
  God’s way is not man’s way and vice versa. If your goal is to return to God, you may try it God’s way or you will find yourself elsewhere.
  
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- Verceofreason
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 8:38pm
  My friend is an artist, makes about $30,000 a year, his wife is a corporate attorney, make $300,000.
  Guess who’s the stay at home parent?
  
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stage9
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:16pm
This is why so many can’t be Christians today…God expects them to lay down their culturally derived, yet culturally corrupt presuppositions in order to allow Him to be LORD of their lives. They have no problem with Jesus being “Savior” or “friend” or “the object of worship”; just so long as He doesn’t put any requirements of obedience or holiness on their lives.

THAT goes WAY too far!

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- Edohiguma
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:24pm
  My family > your god. Simple as that.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:28pm
  Totally agree. Good post.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:32pm
  My God > everybody’s family. Simple as that.
  
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- YAHUSHUAHRULES
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:34pm
  Good Word! Men are called to be the “priests of their household” an awesome responsibility that the godless humanist socialist/communist are trying to replace with the state. It takes a village – really means the government should raise children from cradle to grave to create generation so dumb they can’t govern themselves, they can’t critically think, they can’t serve on juries competently and can’t vote intelligently. Useful idiots for the state – A complicit media, captured Hollywood and forcing normalization of homosexuality and all manner of perversion, war against Judeo/Christian values, pledging allegiance to the earth rather then the flag of the US and the Republic for which it stands, environmentalism a tool of totalitarianism, a corrupt, amoral, godless generation and its not their children – for the most part they abort theirs – its co-oped indoctrinated “our” children and much more
  AGENDA: GRINDING AMERICA DOWN. get it. watch it. share it the hour is late and darkness closing in from all sides…
  so http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-dkKoJ3kT8
  And the solution is enshrined in a statue called “Matrix of Liberty” to go backward to move “forward” to what our Founders knew in order to restore a God fearing Judeo/Christian people moral and just suitable for a Republic form of government:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuN86qIqfw0
  
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- mcsledge
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:44pm
  Well put. One shall reap what they sow. He who fails to sacrifice in this life and put God first will be unfit to stand with those who do in the presence of the Father and the Son throughout eternity.
  
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Elena2010
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:16pm
The prof has a good point.

I would add that if we would decide that we did not NEED every toy on the block, women could stay home and raise the kids while the men went to work. If we would decide that marriage is more precious that culture treats it, we’d work on our marriages and create loving places for children to live.

Marriage is the foundation. Marriage in our culture has simply become a sexual relationship w/certain legal entanglements. We do not value marriage.

A marriage based in love for God is a durable, living, dynamic relationship betw a man and a woman with abiding ties to the larger family.

Culture defines marriage a a convenient but temporary sexual relationship. When you tire of your spouse’s stinky feet, you can leave — no fault. When you fall out of love, leave. THIS IS THE FAILURE of our culture, much more so than stay-at-home dads.

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- Edohiguma
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:23pm
  What if the woman gets a better job with better pay? That makes life easier, can also make it better for the kids.
  
  Oh yeah, throw all of that out the window and submit to dogma instead.
  
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- Messianic-Jew
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:43pm
  Thats fine Edohiguma. Your allowed to do as you please. This is America. However you are not a Christian Man. This article only applies to individuals who actually wan’t to please the Lord. So why are you even on this forum if you couldn’t care less about what God thinks?
  
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flatbroke
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:15pm
In a perfect world i would agree, but in this econmonic DEPRESSION induced by O’blamer and his socialist ideology in which we have been living for the last 4 years, where anyone male/female is lucky to have a job, you support your family anyway you can, and if mom is the breadwinner, then so be it, and as a christian i have yet to read this anywhere in the bible, that the dad has to be the top breadwinner, and if he is not , then its against god way for man, and this kind of thing can cause a lot of good people to turn from the church.

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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:30pm
  1 Timothy 5:8
  
  “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.”
  
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floridareader
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:12pm
It is academics who have twisted things. Calling “dad moms” or “man fails” is offensive. In today’s economy (national and world) not always is the man who gets the best paid job. Some times it’s the mother. I know some men that proudly hold their “stay-home-dad” title and are doing a great job with their kids. Not to mention with their wives: they get home to be pampered by their loving and relaxed husband.

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- Edohiguma
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:25pm
  Agreed. I know several such couples. And it’s working. Why shouldn’t it?
  
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- sldjulius
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:23pm
  “And it’s working”… Maybe for now. But have you read the recent studies published that marriages with role-reversed lifestyles (i.e. dad stays at home, mom works) have way higher divorce rates than those that follow traditional roles? And that’s in addition to the crazy divorce rates in general.
  A man will NEVER be satisfied with that situation, no matter how hard he pretends to be open-minded and modern. He will always feel emasculated if he is not the provider.
  
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thibx
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:05pm
God made man as head of the household. get a job.

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- justangry
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:12pm
  Being the primary caregiver to my daughter has been the toughest job I’ve ever had, but it’s also the most rewarding.
  
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- Edohiguma
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:25pm
  Might want to take a look at reality for once.
  
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- bloomytoad
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:45pm
  I’m sure you would say the same thing to 12 Jews about 2,000 years ago who did ‘t really have jobs, and just followed a rabbi around and healed people without charging them.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:33pm
  @BLOOMYTOAD
  
  You don’t need a job when you’re walking around with God, who can make fish spit out gold coins. They did all have jobs before joining Jesus in His ministry.
  
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