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This Penn. Judge’s Ruling Could Have a Major Impact on the Election (Update: Controversial Ruling Made)

Pennsylvania Judge Robert Simpson to Rule on Voter ID Could Have Election Impact

FILE - In this Sept. 26, 2012 file photo People pass the signs telling of the requirement for voters to show an acceptable photo ID to vote as they head into the the Penndot Drivers License Center in Butler, Pa. Credit: AP

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — A judge postponed Pennsylvania’s controversial voter identification requirement on Tuesday, ordering the state not to enforce it in this year’s presidential election but allowing it to go into full effect next year.

The decision by Commonwealth Court Judge Robert Simpson on the law requiring each voter to show a valid photo ID could be appealed to the state Supreme Court.

However, Simpson based his decision on guidelines given to him days ago by the high court justices, and it could easily be the final word on the law just five weeks before the Nov. 6 election.

One lawyer for the plaintiffs said it appeared to be a “win.”

His ruling came after listening to two days of testimony about the state’s eleventh-hour efforts to make it easier to get a valid photo ID. He also heard about long lines and ill-informed clerks at driver’s license centers and identification requirements that made it hard for some registered voters to get a state-issued photo ID.

The 6-month-old law – now among the nation’s toughest – has sparked a divisive debate over voting rights and become a high-profile political issue in the contest between President Barack Obama, a Democrat, and Republican nominee Mitt Romney, for Pennsylvania’s prized 20 electoral votes.

Pennsylvania, traditionally considered one of the most valuable a presidential swing states, is showing a persistent lead for President Barack Obama in independent polls. As a result, the state has been virtually empty of presidential TV ads and off the candidates’ beaten paths to more contested states in recent weeks.

Pollsters say an identification requirement could mean that fewer people end up voting and, in the past, lower turnouts have benefited Republicans in Pennsylvania. But Democrats have used their opposition to the law as a rallying cry, turning it into a valuable tool to motivate volunteers and campaign contributions while other opponents of the law, including labor unions, good government groups, the NAACP, AARP and the League of Women Voters, hold voter education drives and protest rallies.

The voter ID law was a signature accomplishment of Pennsylvania’s Republican-controlled Legislature and its Republican governor, Tom Corbett. Republicans, long suspicious of ballot-box stuffing in the Democratic bastion of Philadelphia, justified it as a bulwark against any potential election fraud.

But Democrats objected furiously, accusing Republicans of using old-fashioned Jim Crow tactics to steal the White House from Obama by making it harder for young adults, the poor, minorities and the disabled to vote.

Protests, warnings of Election Day chaos and voter education drives ensued, as the law’s opponents – including the AARP, the NAACP and labor unions – began collecting stories of people who had no valid photo ID and had encountered stiff barriers in their efforts to get one from state driver’s license centers.

It was already a political lightning rod when a top state Republican lawmaker boasted to a GOP dinner in June that the ID requirement “is going to allow Gov. Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania.”

The U.S. Supreme Court upheld Indiana’s voter ID law in 2008, and Georgia’s top court upheld that state’s voter ID law. But a federal panel struck down Texas’ voter ID law, and the state court in Wisconsin has blocked its voter ID laws for now. The Justice Department cleared New Hampshire’s voter ID law earlier this year.

The plaintiffs – a group of registered voters, plus the Homeless Advocacy Project, the League of Women Voters of Pennsylvania and the Pennsylvania chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People – had sought to block the law from taking effect in this year’s election as part of a wider challenge to its constitutionality.

The constitutionality of the law was not a question before Simpson.

Rather, the state Supreme Court had ordered him to stop the law if he thought anyone eligible would be unable to cast a ballot because of it or if he found the state had not complied with law’s promise of providing liberal access to a photo ID that voters were required to carry on Election Day.

Las week, the Corbett administration overhauled the process for getting a voting-only ID card – an admission that the state had not met the Supreme Court’s test for the whether the law should stand.

This story has been updated to reflect the ruling. You can read part of the original story below. 

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — Some political momentum could be on the line when a judge rules on whether to keep intact Pennsylvania‘s tough new law requiring voters to show photo identification in next month’s presidential election.

Commonwealth Court Judge Robert Simpson is under a state Supreme Court order to rule no later than Tuesday, just five weeks before voters decide whether to re-elect President Barack Obama, a Democrat, or replace him with Mitt Romney, a Republican.

Simpson heard two days of testimony last week and said he was considering invalidating a narrow portion of the law for the Nov. 6 election. An appeal to the state Supreme Court is possible.

Up for grabs are Pennsylvania’s valuable 20 electoral votes, the sixth most. For now, Republican candidates are trailing in polls on the state’s top-of-the-ticket races.

The law, opposed furiously by Democrats, has nevertheless been a valuable Democratic Party tool to motivate volunteers and campaign contributions as other critics, including the NAACP, AARP and the League of Women Voters, hold voter education drives and protest rallies.

In recent months, Republicans have sent out fundraising appeals highlighting legal challenges to the law or an inquiry into the law by Obama’s Department of Justice, and the party no doubt would add a court defeat to its rallying cry.

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Comments (213)

  • thefnshow
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:27am

    if i have to show id to get sudafed then you should have to show id to vote…simple concept

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  • JRGJR
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:19am

    Wango your an idiot. It’s about the second and third vote. Some are not even legal citizens. It has nothing to do with the black population of the state.

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  • watashbuddyfriend
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:15am

    No Voter ID, No Votee!

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    • JRGJR
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:16pm

      Just heard that the voter ID will be held off till next year, let the fraud continue.

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  • androyster
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:02am

    ID’s have nothing to do with black people. On it’s face, your statement is racist.

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  • GrayPanther
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:53am

    PA residents please note the groups supporting “no I D” for voting.NAACP, AARP, League of women voters and the others are clearly led by leftist-Marxist. We cannot let this fail. There MUST be challengers at the polls to stop voter fraud. Obama and the progressive DemocRAT party have brought fraud and deceit to a peak for stealing this critical election. We MUST not let this happen! Stop blogging and help the election by helping at the polls and or becoming a poll watcher.

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    • VanceUppercut
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 12:16pm

      @GrayPanther

      Yes, everyone who disagrees with you is a Marxist.

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    • LiberalAlways
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 3:53pm

      Just what do you plan to “challenge”? I hope you’re arrested for interfering with someone’s lawful right to vote! Don’t you find it odd that the Republicans conceded in court that they had no evidence of in-person voter fraud to present to the court?

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:15pm

      LIBERALWAYS….we plan to challenge the all too familiar democrat voter fraud tactics. You know…”vote early, vote often”? The dead seemingly come back to life to vote (and always for a democrat no less)..all that neat stuff you lefties like to try.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:31pm

      LiberalAlways, try voting without ID in Sweden. Or Norway, Germany, Netherlands, France, Denmark, Switzerland, Italy, Austria, Czech Republic, etc. etc.

      Nowhere in the world, in countries that have decidedly a fair voting system, you can vote without ID.

      In Zimbabwe, you still don’t need ID.

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    • fgbouman
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 6:23pm

      The hyper-capitalistic AARP is Marxist? That’s a new way of looking at it. I’m not a member because of its money-grubbing ways. It’s anything but Marxist.

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    • michael48
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 7:22pm

      vance/.lib..then it’s ok for (R) to vote early and often…right???…that way you’ll have evidence of fraud…and will have a come to reality moment and want voter ID…

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    • RIVERRAT30
      Posted on October 3, 2012 at 11:01am

      The Democrat motto – “Vote fast – Vote Often” – Get to another voting place again and again – Bring out the dead also…….. Where’s my new phone and other stuff? OK, I know the phone deal started before obama but it sure got hugh after he took office….. along with the OTHER STUFF…..
      I guess OHIO will be next on their list to NOT know who is voting……

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  • EMUSICMANN
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:51am

    I live in PA. What bugs me is that if I go to a doctor, or want to buy decongestant at the Drug Store I have to show my PHOTO ID. WTF is going on that these people don’t have ID’s? I can understand a 90 year old who doesn’t drive, has been taken care of by others all their lives (my aunt) not having one, but jeez even our high school makes the kids have a photo ID around their necks on a lanyard all the time. By-the-way, my Aunt easily got a photo ID in order to vote.

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    • Deadbang
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 3:12pm

      As everyone has stated there is only one reason not to show an ID to vote and that is to cheat. All other reasons are a joke.

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    • AWJenkins
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:27pm

      May I ask where in PA you live? It is my understanding that the point is that there are places in Pennsylvania where getting an ID is harder than others, especially in Philadelphia. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

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  • F_This
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:45am

    This needs to be a federal law. No ID, no vote and if there is one action of voter fraud found, then the election is null and void and everyone should have to go vote again. Eventually the cheaters will get tired of going to cheat.

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    • Truth4SureNuff
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 12:08pm

      No they won’t, they have been cheating for years

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    • RIVERRAT30
      Posted on October 3, 2012 at 11:06am

      That’s the problem now – the feds in too much of our business as it is. This is a states deal – look at the 10th. amenemend – This should be the clue to the problem……

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  • Beachbaby
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:43am

    I went to Mexico. Got fake ID’s. Got fake passports. Bought socials to match my names from the illegal working in the ssa. Thanks you! Will be voting 32 times.

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    • VanceUppercut
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 12:23pm

      @Beachbaby

      Yes, because someone who is here illegally would actually go through all that trouble and expense just so that they can vote.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:31am

    So how many wonder as well as I on how many riots and protests and intimidation mob squads will be at the nations polls in November to ‘ensure’ the right person makes it into office.

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    • LT-prep
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 12:05pm

      I expect there will be a lot of that going on, since E.Holder’s clear demonstration that such violations will not be prosecuted. What I want to know is how many voters are going to die at the polls this year. The rule of law is dead, and we are about get our first really good glimpse into the truth of what that means. I expect the period between the election and innauguration day is going to be a violent, bloody circus in many cities. That will be the “bottom up” part; then we will see Holder and Napolitano pull the trigger on their “top down” part… and of course, we”ll hear the “Full story at 11…” from the every-honest media.
      Are you ready, because it’s coming. Look at Greece, Portugal, and Spain; The sheet-head spring; the escalating violence in Myanmar, Bangladesh, and the rest of SE Asia… those have been their prepatory exercises, but now we’re going to get the “big show” right here at home.
      So, they have their CPX November all planned out…but so do we.

      LT
      ~Those who abuse Liberty, do so at their own Peril!

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    • Blazed_and_Confused
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 12:18pm

      There might be one if the NBPP can get their four members out of bed on election day.

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  • noslave
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:10am

    STALIN SAID HE WHO CASTS THE VOTE ACHEVIES NOTHING,HE WHO COUNTS THE VOTES DETERMINES EVERYTHING??expect the obama media to declare obama the winner ??? iin spite of all the incompetitance/failures??and politically correct castrated americans will stand idley by like someone who once again got their lunch stolen by some bully,unfortunately i dont hold out much hope for revolutionary action,after watching past performances??

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    • Deuteronomy22
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:27am

      The ruling is in. Obama wins Pa. When he is re- elected will the Republicans compromise or 4 more years of deadlock?

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    • bloomytoad
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:40am

      Dear Lord, I pray for deadlock.

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    • Shaqfuey
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:20am

      Unfortunately, as seen in the last two years, a lot can happen with or without deadlock in Congress.

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    • Sayan_Neviot
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 12:16pm

      @Deuteronomy22 – Yeah, those Republicans sure are sneaky. somehow they managed to ‘deadlock’ the first 2 years of Obama’s administration, despite that super-majority – Congress, Senate and White House controlled ENTIRELY by the Democrats.

      And then, in a further stoke of perfidy, they somehow managed to prevent a budget from being passed during the ENTIRE Obama presidency, and to keep EVERY SINGLE Democrat from voting for either of the 2 budgets proposed by President Obama. Perhaps those Democrats should have passed Obama’s budget so they could then see what was in it, hmmmm?

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  • RJJinGadsden
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:59am

    Fox just announced that a decision to stop this voter ID law “temporarily” while this judge “investigates” it further. It will not be in place next month. Some group is saying that over 700,000 Pennsylvanians do not have photo ID. In my opinion, that seems to describe the state’s newborns through toddlers. Actually, the number should be higher. No ID also describes many of the deceased in the state too.

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    • encinom
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:43am

      Voter Fraud has been found in Florida. Strategic Allied Consulting , hired by the GOP to conduct voter drives, has been falsifying and throwing out registration forms. The scandal is such a black eye for the GOP, that the GOP has suspended its voter drives. So there is Voter Fraud and its not done by ACORN, but is contracted out by the GOP.

      http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-possible-voter-fraud-shocker-on-behalf-of-the-gop-20121001,0,271245.story

      http://www.salon.com/topic/voter_fraud/

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    • skiz
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:40am

      @ENCINOM~I know you are an idiot and a far lefty, but come on. The GOP found this happening by a company they hired and fired them. The dems would have denied it was happening to thier dying day. That is the difference between honest people and TRASH!

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    • encinom
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:50am

      @skiz

      The GOP hired the company that had a history of questionable practices relating to voter registration. Unlike the ACORN Scandal, the voter fraud here is real.

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    • izzy1127
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:55am

      @ENCINOM: You’re posting **** from the LA Times and Salon.com. Both are extremely liberal and will lie like the devil about he GOP, just like you do. Why don’t you ask the LA Times to release the video of Obama speaking at the Rashid Khalidi event from 2007-2008, whenever it happened. By not releasing the video is a lie in itself. So shut your face fool………

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:45pm

      THE ACORN SCANDAL WASN’T REAL? How do people even take you seriously anymore?

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 3:53pm

      Yeah umm nice try ENCIDIOT/MONICNE/SLEAZY HIPPO/ad nauseum…
      From the WSJ:
      Nevada officials charged Acorn, its regional director and its Las Vegas field director with submitting thousands of fraudulent voter registration forms last year. Larry Lomax, the registrar of voters in Las Vegas, says he believes 48% of Acorn’s forms “are clearly fraudulent.” On Thursday, prosecutors in Pittsburgh, Pa., also charged seven Acorn employees with filing hundreds of fraudulent voter registrations before last year’s general election.
      Elsewhere, Washington state prosecutors fined Acorn $25,000 after several employees were convicted of voter registration fraud in 2007. The group signed a consent decree with King County (Seattle), requiring it to beef up its oversight or face criminal prosecution. In the 2008 election, Acorn’s practices led to investigations, some ongoing, in 14 other states.

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    • LiberalAlways
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:01pm

      Have you seen the video from Colorado? A SAC employee (contracted by the Republican party) is caught on video admitting that she only wants to register Republicans, Romney supporters. When asked who she works for she stammers for a bit and then says she works for the County Clerk’s office. Soooooo busted.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:13pm

      yeah ummm LIBERALWAYS….an verified video with no court or congressional action to back the claims isn’t really all that effective is it champ?

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  • Cavallo
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:55am

    States w/o voter identification laws means that there really isn’t a democratic system in place. It is whoever is willing to commit fraud is the ruler in that state. Your legitimate vote means nothing. Please make sure you thank a vet for the freedom to vote and decide your leaders. I am sure their sacrifice was worth having been stolen by fraud and corruption. Welcome to Oceania.

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    • Marine25
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 6:51pm

      Example of in person voter fraud please. The lawyers in PA, after 6 months of research, could produce none when requested by the judges on the panel.
      The PA law requires very specific photo ID. The judges learned that their own courthouse ID would not suffice. Essentially it requires a driver’s license, a military ID or a state issued photo voter ID that PA could provide to only 60,000 voters before election day.
      So who doesn’t have a driver’s license or military ID? The elderly, the disabled, the homeless, residents of large cities with mass transit, the blind, 18 and 19 year olds who have not gained their license, college kids who live on pedestrian campuses. What do these groups have in common? They don’t typically vote Republican.
      Here is a solution. Issue compulsory voter ID registration cards. ID and register every 18 year old citizen whether they request it or not. That would solve any problems, real or imagined.
      Show me one Republican that would vote for that. You can’t. Because if everyone was registered and photo identified, voter participation would skyrocket. Republicans are never, ever served by high turnouts. It’s why they constantly attempt to make it harder, less convenient, and more complicated to vote.
      We should make it easier for everyone to exercise civic duties.

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  • term limits for congress
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:40am

    It is about voter fraud. Clearly, the NAACP, AARP, League of Women Voters support voter fraud. We’re doomed. Welcome to communism, comrades.

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    • thefnshow
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:30am

      yes en it was a gop firm this time…just making up for acorn last time…and congrats on the dems suppressing the military vote

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    • encinom
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:53am

      The ACORN Scandal was proven to be false, it was built on Beck’s Fox’s and Conservative outrage with no facts.

      Please how was the military vote suppressed cause again, that is a GOP fictions rather than fact.

      While we have here a true occurrence of the GOP committing voter fraud.

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    • VanceUppercut
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 12:22pm

      @term limits for congress

      The people trying to push for the voter ID law in Penn. couldn’t come up with one example of in-person voter fraud in their state. Not one.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 3:54pm

      Really ENCIDIOT/MONICNE/SLEAZY HIPPO/ad nauseum?
      From the WSJ:
      Nevada officials charged Acorn, its regional director and its Las Vegas field director with submitting thousands of fraudulent voter registration forms last year. Larry Lomax, the registrar of voters in Las Vegas, says he believes 48% of Acorn’s forms “are clearly fraudulent.” On Thursday, prosecutors in Pittsburgh, Pa., also charged seven Acorn employees with filing hundreds of fraudulent voter registrations before last year’s general election.
      Elsewhere, Washington state prosecutors fined Acorn $25,000 after several employees were convicted of voter registration fraud in 2007. The group signed a consent decree with King County (Seattle), requiring it to beef up its oversight or face criminal prosecution. In the 2008 election, Acorn’s practices led to investigations, some ongoing, in 14 other states.

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  • term limits for congress
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:38am

    Do you need an ID to get an obamaphone?

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    • Mapache
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:16am

      You an ID to get into a government building or to see your congressional representative, to get into an Obama campaign event, to get into a bar or casino or buy beer if you appear under 40, to buy cigarettes, to rent a dvd, to fly on a commercial aircraft, to cash a check, to pawn something, to rent a car or furniture, to test drive a car, to rent an apartment, get a hotel room……………but to require an ID to vote is abusive?? I don’t get it.

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:09am

      A better pet name for that would be a Reaganphone since he is the one that initiated the program, gosh the truth hurts doesn’t it?

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    • 00100111
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:26pm

      SimpletonIdiot, more people are using that phone these days under your golden boy. Safety nets are not designed to be used as a way of life, but you wouldn’t understand that as you’re stuck in your mother’s basement without any underwear on switching between this page and gay porn.

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    • DontTreadOnMe7
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 3:02pm

      @ SimpleTruths Correct me if I’m wrong (which I’m sure you will) but when this entitlement was created was it not intended to be used by people who could not afford a phone to be able to use in an EMERGENCY in order to get help? Now the phones come with 250 min talk and 250 text msgs per month. Now that is a LOT of emergency phone calls.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:18pm

      SIMPLETON…you’re quite aptly named. The cost of the programme ballooned under Barack Obama..hence your cousin in the video calls them “Obamaphones”. You don’t like her chosen nomenclature..then speak to her little fella.

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  • noslave
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:38am

    OH SHOOT HIS NAME IS SIMPSON, DOOOH,WERE DOOMED bet hes an obama democrat?? hope im wrong,so far obama and his crew covered all bases loading the courts with liberal judges in case they get caught doing wrong or someone calls them on a uncontitutional ruleing??

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  • PassionForTruth
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:33am

    We have to ensure that fraud is stopped at the polls. Volunteer to be a poll watcher.
    http://www.truethevote.org

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    • VanceUppercut
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 12:20pm

      @PassionForTruth

      So, I guess we’re soon going to hear more stories like we did in the ’08 election (as well as the ’10 mid-terms) where “concerned patriots” were be harassing anyone with brown skin waiting in line, and demanding to see their ID’s and such. Luckily nobody is required to show you or your nutcase friends a damn thing.

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    • encinom
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:00pm

      So, Passion for the Truth, are you are your Tea ****** group going to protest the GOP. The GOP has been caught red handed with phony ballot registrations in Florida. Seems like a group they hired, found it easier to forge GOP registrations and dispose of Democrat registrations. I am sure that Tea ****** Voter Group will go after the GOP.

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    • jrconte
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 3:33pm

      ecinomon, your are kinda making the good point, that a fraudulent registration getting into the system, does little good without a photo id to back it up. sorry, in your haste to spin, you are agreeing to the need for a photo id for all voters

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  • Landon410
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:25am

    you have to show id to see obama speak, you have to show id to see biden talk, you have to show id to get into a bar, you have to show id to file for unemployment, you have to show id etc etc etc

    I’d like to see this be a federal law, and would just laugh my little white **** off when you see democrat votes drop by 15%, hahaha no fraud? they just sentenced people in Council Buff Iowa for voter fraud, no fraud? why did every disney character vote in chicago?

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  • bdandsl
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:20am

    I had to show my DL to get a library card!

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  • RJJinGadsden
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:15am

    I would venture to say that you have to provide your ID to enter Judge Robert Simpson’s courtroom.

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    • Wango
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:43am

      I would venture to say you don’t. Guess what – I’m right.

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    • Sayan_Neviot
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 12:08pm

      Actually ‘Wango’, you are dead wrong. From the official Harrisburg Coutrthouse appearance PDF: ” … procedures are in place in the Courthouse and a photo I.D. is required …”

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    • Sayan_Neviot
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 12:10pm

      And an I.D. is required for every single Federal building in D.C., too: http://tinyurl.com/8s5exyd

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:23pm

      Once again WHACKO/HOSEDANCER/ad nauseum….you’re a little too quick on the drive-by insult and a little too light on the facts. Is that how you like to spend your self described “busy” retirement? Posting your drive-by insults and poorly informed blather on blog boards?

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    • Wango
      Posted on October 3, 2012 at 9:35am

      My mistake. I was wrong, I admit it.

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  • Joey8
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:14am

    I had to show ID to sell plasma, social security card and drivers license.

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  • FightingBear
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:11am

    It’s unbelievable to me that anyone can even contest a law that says you must have a valid ID to vote.

    To me that is nothing more than common sense and uncontestable…unless of course you are in favor of voter fraud.

    It would be interestinmg to see if the Democrats would still be as invested in this idea that it disenfranchises certain segments of the population if it were the Republicans who were constantly benefitting from voter fraud…year after year…election after election. I suspect not….

    But since it is the Dems who benefit from it….they yell loud and long that their base is too stupid and unmotivated to get get an ID card. …and this law is designed to dienfranchise stupid people…and lazy people…etc.

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    • betsyyoung
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:17am

      Spot on!!!

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    • Jal71881
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:36am

      AMEN…..AMEN….. AMEN…. You need ID for everything…. but not when Voting for elected officials??? The liberal position on this issue is ludicrous……….. Judge Robert Simpson needs to to the right and honorable thing and uphold the photo ID decision.

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    • Wango
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:41am

      What voter fraud? Study after study concludes it is virtually non-esistent.

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    • encinom
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:12am

      @Wango,

      They just proved voter fraud in Florida. A firm hired by the GOP to register voters was found throwing away voter registrations, filing false registrations and violating the laws left and right.

      “The GOP cut ties with the third party voter registering company Strategic Allied Consultants on Thursday after the Palm Beach County elections supervisor flagged 106 of the firm’s registration forms for having similar handwriting, incorrect addresses and incomplete information.

      Since then, elections officials in nine Florida counties have unearthed hundreds of possibly fraudulent registration forms. ”
      http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/voter-registration-fraud-gop-backed-firm-spreads/story?id=17370445

      http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444752504578024903833678698.html

      http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/02/3842608/commentary-republicans-are-playing.html

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    • JRGJR
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:28am

      If no ID law maybe we should start sticking our fingers in the purple ink.

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:46pm

      Then we should have proof of ID to prevent Republicans from committing voter fraud, no?

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:33pm

      It’s non-existent only to lefty trolls like you WHACKO/HORSEDANCER/ad nauseum….

      From the WSJ:

      Nevada officials charged Acorn, its regional director and its Las Vegas field director with submitting thousands of fraudulent voter registration forms last year. Larry Lomax, the registrar of voters in Las Vegas, says he believes 48% of Acorn’s forms “are clearly fraudulent.” On Thursday, prosecutors in Pittsburgh, Pa., also charged seven Acorn employees with filing hundreds of fraudulent voter registrations before last year’s general election.
      Elsewhere, Washington state prosecutors fined Acorn $25,000 after several employees were convicted of voter registration fraud in 2007. The group signed a consent decree with King County (Seattle), requiring it to beef up its oversight or face criminal prosecution. In the 2008 election, Acorn’s practices led to investigations, some ongoing, in 14 other states.

      Your uninformed post WHACKO/HORSEDANCER/ad nauseum must be another example of your use of your self-described “busy” retirement (whereby you spend inordinate amounts of time on the Blaze)and your insipid pleas for posts that are “provocative and interesting”. Of course…that again is just another diversion you use so as not to answer questions about obama’s debt and joblessness. At least Joe Biden knows that the middle class has taken a beating over the last four years..even though he forgot that his boss has been in charge those four years. Bless his heart…

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:07am

    We have to show ID’s for everything. Surprised we don’t have to show them to join a church or country club.

    PHOTO ID’s to vote for LEGAL CITIZENS.
    everybody else, go home….. literally!

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  • maddog777
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:07am

    I live in Pa. I am near the capital of Harrisburg and for the democrats they act like only democrats don’t have the required I D to vote. As always clowns like the AARP and NAACP continue to protest too much. They don’t want fair elections. Cheating at the polls in Philadelphia is not a surprise to anyone in this state.

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 8:59am

    I had to show ID to get a SAMs club membership………………..

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:11am

      I am 59 years old, and had to show ID yesterday to buy a 12 pack of beer. And, with me that is enough to last the remainder of this college football season.

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    • betsyyoung
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:15am

      The arguments against this law are preposterous! The Dems are against because the they cannot cheat! AARP is nuts! I cancelled my membership with them years ago!!! There are other elder groups to join with same benefits and who agree with conservatism!

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    • Zipit
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:33am

      RJJ! Keystone light? Always smooth!!!!!

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    • Wango
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:43am

      Joining Sam’s Club isn’t a Constitutional right. Idiots. What’s with the constant whining? What, you want a bag of gummy bears? Fine, here’s you candy. STFU.

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    • freedommonger
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 3:42pm

      @Wango
      Hey, Wanko breath. You just made the point for us. If you must show your ID for something that’s NOT a constitutional right, then you should surely be willing to prove who you are for something that IS a constitutional right. Cheating is NOT a constitutional right. And who’s doing the whining, Wanko? And who’s the idiot?

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    • jrconte
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 3:43pm

      Wango, your name should be Wanker. our constitutional rights are for United states citizens. There for a voter ID issued by either the feds or state should be obtained and used for voting. No question, No debate. Anyone thinking differently is simply wrong. That means you. You liberals have managed to screw up a once great country into what we have today. common sense used to keep legal or illegal aliens from voting, and basically only citizens would vote. Now we have this mess where know one knows who is who. Now Chicago was always a problem, you know, ‘vote early, vote often’ I bet they still don’t require a photo ID there.

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    • chazmo
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:23pm

      Hey Wango, I have to show ID for a constitutional right called the 2nd Amendment.. Now what?
      Also, in California in order to change your voting status you MUST show ID.. So to change from say Dem to Rep you have to show ID.. hahahaha…

      So again why are you trolls so against showing ID to vote? Especially since those evil republicans are cheating so much, you would think you would be 100% for voter ID… interesting.

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    • Zipit
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:43pm

      Wang! You’re a little angry there buddy! “Stfu”? Did your parents tell you to get out of the basement and look for a job again?

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  • Al J Zira
    Posted on October 2, 2012 at 8:56am

    But it is an emotional target for Democrats who call it a Jim Crow-style scheme to make it harder for their party’s traditional voters, including young adults and minorities, who might not carry the right kind of ID or know about the law.

    So that being said I guess they’re telling us Democrats are stupid and uninformed?

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    • thcamargo
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:12am

      Don’t you have to show ID to buy alcohol, buy cold medicine, cigarettes, prescription drugs, some places you show ID to buy spray paint, use a credit card. But its wrong to ask for an ID to vote, amazing our country is doomed.

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    • Sickandtiredofextremists
      Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:38am

      I don’t think that was the intent of the comment at all. But it does stand to reason that the comment indicates that portion of the Democrat voter base is lacking in the requisite knowledge to cast an informed vote………….which is why our “beloved” president appeals to them………………and why he so unashamedly keeps trying to “buy” their votes with entitlements.

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