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Oct. 3, 2012 12:29pm Guest Post

A version of this post originally appeared on GlennBeck.com.

On Tuesday night, Glenn Beck flew to Denver, CO, to take part in DISH Network’s “War of the Words,” which saw him face off against prominent progressive and Current TV’s Eliot Spitzer. For over an hour, the two spoke out on issues important to them and the country, covering everything from the economy, the role of government, the media, and healthcare.

Broadcast on DISH and Facebook, the event took place at the Fillmore Auditorium in Denver and was moderated by Ed Sardella.

In his opening statements, Beck took time to thank DISH CEO Joe Clayton for bringing him to Denver before addressing the theme of the night’s event – “The War of the Words.” While that theme implied, and even celebrated, the inherent conflict between the two opposing political viewpoints, Beck said it was important for people to stop arguing and start working together.

“I don’t believe in a war of the words,” he said. “We listen to people argue with each other and it tears us apart. If I knew what I knew now ten years ago, I wouldn’t have said the things in the past the way I said them.”

“It’s important for us to listen to each other,” he argued.

Beck also thanked DISH for putting TheBlaze in millions of homes across the country, noting that they took a chance on a network with a new attitude and outlook that was unlike anything in the mainstream media. He also touted his network’s autonomy, as it is funded by viewers and subscribers leaving him beholden to no one at the end of the day other than God.

In his opening comments, Gov. Spitzer claimed that America was in good shape and that President Obama was steering the country in an improved direction.

“I believe that we as a nation are stronger than ever,” Spitzer told the audience.

As the event got underway, Spitzer took a page from Beck’s playbook by using several charts and visual aids to help demonstrate his point. Having left his chalkboard back in Dallas, Beck at one point used a sharpie to draw a chart on his hand to illustrate his argument against Obamacare. Using the chart, Beck explained the “Complete Lives System” and rationed care that would emerge as a result of socialized healthcare, and pointed out several recent examples in the news where medicine and treatment was being rationed as a result of government interference.

The philosophical divide between the two became clear when Sardella asked the hosts about their views on the role of government. Spitzer defended Obama’s “you didn’t build that” comments and called for a government that “enforces the rules.” He blamed the Bush administration for the recession that has plagued America since 2008, and said the burden was on big government to police businesses in orde to prevent another recession.

“That was nuts,” Beck said after hearing Spitzer’s comments.

“Capitalism is great unless you unhook from morals and principles,” he added.

Glenn instead put the blame for the economic woes on the people in Washington and on Main Street who unplugged and made the bad choices that led to the collapse in the housing market. He said people have to take responsibility for bad loans, and the government has to take responsibility for enabling those choices.

“We unhooked from reality,” Beck said.

He explained that America needs to redefine the word success and that success must be tethered to principles. Americans need to be allowed to fail, he added, and it’s only through his personal failure over a decade ago that he was able to get the strength he needed to build a successful company and launch his own network.

“That happened through hard work and principles,” he said.

Despite that argument, Spitzer again reiterated a point that he had made throughout the event: America was better off than it was four years ago because of Barack Obama’s leadership. Spitzer said he expected Obama to have a “huge victory” in the weeks ahead.

For his closing remarks, Beck said that he simply was hoping that someone, either candidate, would speak the plain truth about what is going on in the world. He noted in particular that America’s leaders needed to acknowledge the true chaotic state of the Middle East and the failure of the Arab Spring.

But rather than say a politician would be the one to lead America over the coming years, Beck said Americans needed to wake up and take responsibility for their own destinies.

“Stand up for what you believe in, you might end up being wrong. I might end up being one of those most incorrect men ever. Whatever. I stand up for what I believe in.”

“The engine of America is you,” he concluded.

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lisa2994
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 2:27pm
I have dish coming in Friday to install.. Cannot wait to see Glenn on my TV again.

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- Zer0
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 5:35pm
  Hmmm….Walking Dead or Glenn Beck? :/
  
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- TomSawyer
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 6:33pm
  I am not having Dish install ever. I hope Beck goes to a different media so I too can watch it. Dish knowingly ripped me off $50. Dish Network has no honor and I will never ever forget their crime.
  
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- capitalismrocks
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 7:08pm
  Hoping the Blaze makes it to FIOS… I love my Roku box but have to keep switching my HDMI cable as I don’t have a switcher.
  
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- LakeHartwellSailor
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 7:21pm
  @TOMSAWYER
  
  Interesting….I’ve had Dish for years. Early this year, I built a bar in my basement and wanted to add several TV’s. So I ended up getting a couple of receivers to drive the TV’s. When the installation guy came, he noticed I wasnt’ getting all of my HD channels. After a 15 minute phone call, Dish Network gave me a HUGE credit to make up for the previous 3 years of not having all my HD channels. I was impressed with Dish admitting the mistake, and making things right.
  
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- neidermeyer
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 7:53pm
  Glenn , just wanted to say THANK You for making this clip downloadable … most of your clips are locked …
  
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- BigRedUSA1
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 8:25pm
  For anyone that does NOT want to purchase a “Dish” contract, consider purchasing an internet television streaming device called, “ROKU”, http://www.roku.com. They sell a variety of streaming devices from 720p to 1080p streaming quality. You can sub free and paid individual channels of which I mostly watch the blaze. I am so glad that I have dropped my cable and dish tv and use ROKU: cable was too expensive to pay for channels I’ll never watch and dish canceled my AMC channel.
  
  As far as debate between the disgraced former attorney general of new york that was too busy engaging in the man act when he should have been prosecuting criminals, well I am biased towards Glen. Glen actually believes that people have the personal responsibility to govern themselves, while Spitzer believes the government should hold your hand until they shut the door on the gas chambers that awaits the American people should we continue down this road to totalitarianism, WAKE UP AMERICA!
  
  As va
  
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- Gorp
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 8:27pm
  It’s a good channel. I just wish it was in HD but still, on an HD TV it still looks good.
  
  And, yes Tom, we’ve heard how they ripped you off several times. Sometimes you just have to get over stuff from the past. The way you hold a grudge I wouldn’t doubt if you are still Pi$$ed at the kid in the 4th grade who spilled your soda and laughed about it.
  
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- Ballot_Box_Revolution
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 11:14pm
  that was very good and refreshing to watch…
  
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djhrr
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 2:16pm
Maybe I’m alone here but Am I the only one that can pinpoint when evil showed it’s face? Mr. Spitzer did a fine job of not letting it out until the closing argument. There is a point in there that his face changed, voice changed and eyes became lazer focused. If you do not believe this is good vs evil than you are mistaken my friend. This is, and evil has a name and it’s about time we start calling him by it.

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- TJSON
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 5:55pm
  Add your comments
  
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ReviveOurNation
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 2:13pm
My favorite part was when Elliot Spitzer touted great presidents like Woodrow Wilson. I almost busted a gut with laughter. Glenn remained a lot cooler throughout this debate than I could have.

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daves
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 2:04pm
I have to say… Spitzer and all of his schizoid diatribe came off better than Glenn on some of points.. Especially on conveying his views.. In the end Spitzer lost me.However, Glenn’s showmanship (ie going close to the camera, spouting platitudes) wasn’t where I expected him to go.Glenn’s book’s are filled with facts!! where were they here!? Glenn seemed unprepared ,much to my chagrin.I really believe Glenn should have been MUCH stronger!

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- jdog777
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 3:10pm
  I counted at least 30 lies when Spitzer spoke. Beck… zero. That is why Beck is right. It is up to us to know the truth… then we can sort through the lies.
  
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- RJ
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 4:23pm
  Spitzer was an infomercial for O
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 7:58pm
  I like this line of thought ….Glenn, whether by design or or raw talent, Drew Spitzer out, not with the facts but with pure righteous indignation. The proglibs can argue about the facts, because today’s ideology say’s”Every interpretation is viable”. But they cannot argue with charisma, because it is ‘spiritual’. And Glen has always been very good at sequencing ideas into understandable order, just wingin’ it. In the end he broke ol’ boy down to his evil self, unmasked. Righteous.
  
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ultor-de-deus-exercitus
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 2:01pm
Thank you Dish, and Beck.
Prosperity is achieved through peaceful production and perseverance, it is achieved through personal responsibility, individual behavior, and the recognition that “liberty” is a precious verb not a precarious “noun.”
Poverty is not the absence of material wealth; it is the absence of the wisdom to understand what prosperity is. Just as salvation, success, and life are gifts, the very pursuit to maintain and expand these gifts is exercised on an individual bases alone, before the concept of social salvation, social success, or social life can emerge. The poverty that is material in its nature cannot survive the individual that does not accept its trappings. Being made comfortable in one’s poverty, only perpetuates authoritarian control over the materially impoverished subject.
The materialistic world view of prosperity and poverty can only offer a hemispheric approach to attaining one while attempting to escape the other. You are more than the sum of your parts. What you may call consciousness is the area of self-awareness that affords your true potential. The very second you accept the impossibility of a material world without that material having an intelligent or conscious designer and that you are not some sort of collective abstract, the sooner poverty can escape the light, while the longer you fight the truth, the longer you feed the dark. You cannot free your mind until you have accepted the responsibility to salvage your individ

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- ultor-de-deus-exercitus
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 2:03pm
  You cannot be your brother’s keeper by supporting the apparatus of a state which confiscates the prosperity of one for the perpetuation of the impoverishment of another. Give a man a fish; he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish; and he will file for material bankruptcy in order to experience the spiritual prosperity.
  To infuse the term “values” with a person like Obama is to call for the suspension of disbelief. Redistribution is theft. Socialism is the redistribution of sovereignty from the individual over to the state. And socialism is the zygote of communism which is achieved at the end of a barrel.
  Personal values are implicitly related to choice; they guide decisions by allowing for an individual’s choices to be compared to each choice’s associated values.
  Personal values developed early in life may be resistant to change. They may be derived from those of particular groups or systems, such as culture, religion, and political party. However, personal values are not universal; one’s genes, family, nation and historical environment help determine one’s personal values. This is not to say that the value concepts themselves are not universal, merely that each individual possess a unique conception of them i.e. a personal knowledge of the appropriate values for their own genes, feelings and experience.
  Personal values of other persons is dignity of that other person. Theft “in any form” can never be good “policy” and can only be a “value” without a
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 8:30pm
  Let me interupt…..ULTOR DEDEUS……When you have an ultra-elite class of people designing a sub- class, to serve them during an imminent, catastrophic, global crisis, Theory goes out the window, in favor of raw, in yo’ face, reality. Any solution to our quandry, has to be implemented in a couple of weeks. There is no time for crossing t’s and dotting i’s…….
  This uber-class has turned half of our population into a zombie movie….it took 40 years to get what they have, now. They won’t let it go…It IS their life….This is do or die… dangerous…treacherous…
  Add to all that a big dose of paranoia and a programmed ‘victim mentality’, and we have a supercharged volatility, waiting for a spark.
  
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mernijo
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 2:01pm
I couldn’t agree with what Switzer in large part because I can’t see the truth in what he said. Where is he getting his information? Why is he leaving out the TRUTH? Glen had more truth in what he said.

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- TJSON
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 5:56pm
  When you define truth as “things that you want to believe” it’s easy to find it.
  
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Maxim Crux
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:52pm
. Great smack down using truth. Excellent. I would like to see more of these

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- SFALLC
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 2:44pm
  FDR’s new deal (Raw Deal) took until after WW2 to be effective. Bull Sh_t. The laws imposed unbearable restrictions on business, stripped small business of their ability to raise capital and it is obvious the Gov. has no clue about history.
  
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- Voter713
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 5:11pm
  so would I – I saw an american (beck) debating a politician (spitzer). the debate showed us who the people are and who the government is. beck didnt get booed – spitzer did. I hope many saw it and are now convinced the government is too big. I esp love the chart he drew on his hand.
  
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whatthecrazy
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:52pm
Fabulous debate I just wish Glenn would go to the people and shake hands like they were waiting for at the end,just a thought.

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- ReviveOurNation
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 2:09pm
  I’m sure his security detail makes those decisions. This was not his event. Who knows, but it might be that he needed to catch the plane. He got home at 2 am and was back up at the studios this morning.
  
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- triplejaymom
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 3:17pm
  Evidently the cameras just didn’t show after the debate…Glenn talked on the radio this morning about the people in the audience he got to speak to afterwards when they were shaking hands, many of whom said they hated to admit it, but they liked what he said. :)
  
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The Third Archon
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:44pm
“He also touted his network’s autonomy, as it is funded by viewers and subscribers leaving him beholden to no one at the end of the day other than God.”
…God, and his viewers and subscribers that is.

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- Max jones
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:46pm
  ….and your point is……
  
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- DarkJello
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:48pm
  I purchased one year of The Blaze TV for $100 on Sunday.
  
  We can do this. Libs and Progs desperately want to “win” with pure fraud. GTFO!
  
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- smokeysmoke
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 2:49pm
  ya hes saying that he provides a PRODUCT, and people can CHOOSE TO BUY OR NOT BUY… thanks for being slow
  
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- fergab
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 3:01pm
  I spent $100 last year for the Blaze full access through ROKU. Paying for high speed internet through Charter. After a year of constantly be thrown off Roku and having to reboot I have given up and not renewed. I am sorry but all my complaints to both The Blaze and Roku blamed it on everything but their system. I don’t have a problem with anything else I watch on Roku nor do I have a problem when /i watch the Blaze after a program has aired. Only with live programming; Hope these issues get cleared up. If so I will renew.
  
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- oitsugina
  Posted on October 4, 2012 at 12:54pm
  @smokeysmoke LOL
  
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chucksue351
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:43pm
spitzer must be suffering from syfallis from all his prositutes, the greatest growth after 1945 was not the new deal, but the aftermath of ww2 and the fact that europe was in shambles and the usa was not

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- TJSON
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 6:00pm
  The new deal was totally responsible for the growth.
  
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Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:28pm
Brings up a good point- Watch obama’s eyes closely tonight. Watch how endlessly he has to glance at his ipad-prompter or worse – the actual TOTUS wherever it may be. Count the uh- ah – uhms as he waits for the response to appear for him. Obama is incapable of formulating a sentence without them. yea- he is not allowed by his puppetmaster soros to do so. Off script and/or ‘from the heart’ are like russian roulette with these people.

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- BV FROM TX
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 3:17pm
  Ghandi, do not expect Obama to have any problems as ALL of the moderators are liberal hacks and you can bet he has been given the questions in advance. Their intent is to make Romney look stupid and the Dictator-in-Chief look brilliant. Pay close attention to the types of questions addressed to each.
  
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chucksue351
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:21pm
spitzer’s opening already is flawed this country is a constitutional republic not a democracy, the founding fathers hated democracy

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- Max jones
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:48pm
  For damn good reason………
  
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Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:21pm
Romney would do well to ask obama what he was doing for the 2 years he was in office while the mortgage landslide was taking shape. He WAS after all a Senator in the majority (Democrats) who held all the chairmanships in all the committees, including banking and commerce.
“For WHAT is obama willing to take responsibility”? WHAT exactly.. Give a SPECIFIC. WHAT? WHEN? He won’t even take responsibility for a BUDGET. He has signed NO BUDGET!

What we do know is that when the going got tough- Obama went campaigning.. as he always does,
When the going gets tough- obama goes campaigning!

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- TJSON
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 6:06pm
  The president does not ‘pass’ a budget. Congress passes a budget.
  
  This congress has failed to pass a budget.
  
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- 22hornet
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 7:41pm
  The president is supposed to make sure the congress sends a budget to him.. No Leadership is the problem
  
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- rayzorback1
  Posted on October 4, 2012 at 5:39pm
  The Republican HOUSE has passed several budgets…. The Demoncraps in the SENATE tabled them so none was passed. The pResident offered a couple and coul NOT get even one vote for them from either party.
  
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Lani
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:19pm
Well, I am going to watch and record for my husband to watch. We have not been good Americans for the past several presidential elections, too involved in our small circle of life, having blinders on for the bigger picture. I am with Beck on that it took Obama’s presidendency to wake us up.

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- DarkJello
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:27pm
  Glad to have you aboard. Freedom is the goal, but progressives love to muddy everything.
  
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- AzDebi
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 2:30pm
  OUTSTANDING! Thank You Glenn! You have once again shown that some men speak from the heart while others just spout the same rehearsed rhetoric! Spitzer is not an honest man in his soul! Typical politician!
  
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- triplejaymom
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 3:21pm
  Glad to hear that, Lani! I think Obama’s presidency ( or lack thereof ) has awoken a lot of people who were once asleep. As I’ve heard it said, Barack Obama’s winning the last election may have been the best thing ever for this country, because if McCain would have won, most of us would still be asleep. It took Obama’s radical agenda to rile enough people up to finally care what happens to our great land!
  
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Mmmkay
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:18pm
Beck sounded like a citizen concerned about the future of our country, while Spitzer sounded like …. well …. a typical spinning politician. (Everything about him was annoying, from his charts, to the way he swaggard, to his arrogant grin, UGH) Please, just go away you FRAUDS !!!!

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- Danzig
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:27pm
  Totally agree. I was so proud of Glenn. He is such a spokesman for what is right and just.
  
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- dfissell
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 2:19pm
  Glen stomped him and you could see it took all he had not to go off on a rant on him
  
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jpndhouse
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:17pm
No wonder Spitzer’s “women of the night” cost so much money, that guy is ugly as sin…

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- Mmmkay
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:22pm
  “Fugly”
  
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DarkJello
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:16pm
Trying to decide if Spitzer really believed his comments about Obama’s leadership and the country being in a better place… Based on reality, his comments were super, duper optimistic to say the least.

Are the facts just not able to move from bleeding heart to brain?

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drphil69
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:15pm
Who ya gonna believe, Elliot Spitzer or your own lying eyes?

Oh yeah, the economy is better… the world is safer… the planet has begun to heal, and the oceans rise has slowed… EVERYTHING IS GREAT NOW THAT OUR DEAR LEADER HAS FIXED IT!!

Now, get on your knees 5 times a day and pray to allah OR ELSE!

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- Mil Mom
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 6:38pm
  @drphil69
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:15pm
  
  Who ya gonna believe, Elliot Spitzer or your own lying eyes?
  
  Oh yeah, the economy is better… the world is safer… the planet has begun to heal, and the oceans rise has slowed… EVERYTHING IS GREAT NOW THAT OUR DEAR LEADER HAS FIXED IT!!
  
  Now, get on your knees 5 times a day and pray to allah OR ELSE!
  ***
  Allah don’t settle for on your knees, he wants your **** in the air and your forehead hitting the ground, arms stretched forward. (Prayer rugs allowed or encouraged.)
  
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Max jones
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:12pm
The Great Divide that characterizes politics and the roll of faith in this country can be summed up simply. Morality v. license….From “whosoever will” to “what can I get away with”.
To me it comes down to ‘gut reactions’, and their consequences. Prog-lib reaction to current events at home and abroad is fear. They have only this world, this crumbling, decaying, increasingly dangerous physical reality. A reality where chaos reigns. Capitulation to dangerous situations is reasonable, if that is what saves your life, your well being. Earthly concerns lead to mental aberration, and deviant, damaging behavior….fear.
Spiritual thinking leads to edification. Prayer gives us peace of mind. The love of God, is redeeming and pro-life.
The affection the liberals have for lawless hedonism, and sexual irresponsibility is tied to this fear of death…..and a “faith” in Godless science, as savior. The search for “the fountain of youth”, self created immortality. Hiding, always from Truth.
These distinctions tell us why the proglibs hate so much….they can do no more than disappoint each other and delude themselves. It is a cult of shared fear, dark futures and futility….

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- JimL
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:33pm
  marketed fear marketed anger and marketed hate leads to?
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:57pm
  Marketed fear, anger and hatred lead to more votes for the One. The savior of the godless masses who BELIEVE that man can save himself collectively….Can find the answer to a question that natural man has searched for unsuccessfully since the beginning of this age. The future is bleak for ”natural man”.
  
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- JimL
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 3:46pm
  marketed sloth– “don’t care”?
  
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gwnail
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:08pm
What a pant load…if Spitzer ever comes down out of his ivory tower to where “We the People” are then maybe he will see, if he opens his eyes, that we are worse off than ever before BECAUSE of government and BECAUSE we as a nation and as individuals have turned our back on the ONLY ONE true God who can help and that is our Creator the Lord Jesus who is THE Christ! Who else beside the One who made us could possibly know more about what we need and is able and willing to help….IF….we will seek Him as He said to? See 2 Chronicles 7:14.

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- Wayner
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 2:34pm
  Just want to throw in my opinion about political parties… For most of my adult life I was a registered Democrat mainly because it was a family thing, but another was my perception that Democrats represented the common working man. I had been taught that to be Republican was to be on the side of the rich and the priviledged… All well and good until the Democratic Party went immoral and communist… So I became an Independent bent toward Tea Party views… I’m not thrilled with voting Republican,, but they’re the only party with moral values anymore.
  
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Patrick
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:07pm
Was this aired on GBTV yesterday?

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- Patrick
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:14pm
  I meant to say “The Blaze”. Was it aired live last night?
  
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- Lovesmesomeglennbeck
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 2:45pm
  No, on Dish and on Dish’s facebook page.
  
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4GODUSAANDISRAEL
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:05pm
What is it with liberals? Can none of them make it through an appearance without a teleprompter or a script? I thought Glenn (without notes, charts, or his chalkboard) did great last night. Even though he voiced the Christian libertarian view of the world(which the left obviously hates) he kept coming back to the country coming back together and healing and being united as a people once again, where as spitzer would come on say he agreed with Glenn, (which he so obviously did not) and then immediately go onto divide divide divide. Blood was shooting out of my eyes! And then the end where he LIED about Romney not paying his taxes, the George Washington mandates (which yes exist, but spitzer took waaay out of context,used as a blatent unfounded support to obamacare) and used his closing to divide. At least Glenn tried to unite using love, understanding, and principles as a common uniter.

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- cindy g
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 6:40pm
  Glenn DID have a chalkboard last night….Didn’t you see it? ….It was in his…….Right hand!…lol
  
  As usual, Glenn used it to his advantage!!
  
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Gonzo
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 12:57pm
I wonder how many h**kers they had to promise Spitzer to take part in this debate?

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- Zipit
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:55pm
  GONZ! Colorado is a very mountainous state! Should not have been a problem finding hikers to attend!
  
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SeekerEmerald
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 12:43pm
Everything’s fine… No need to change a thing america! Give me a BREAK!
Does this administration REALLY think anybody is buying that line of horse manure???

Oh, we all have heard people repeat it, but I submit that even the ones repeating it know it isn’t really true.

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- Stoic one
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:03pm
  I listened to a young woman at a fast food place state she voted for obama in ’8 and plans to vote for him again; because she likes him better. I asked her if she knew what SOCIALISM is… her answer : nope.
  
  This is what Romney is up against; the politically illiterate
  
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- rockmanlinux
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:05pm
  Completely agree. Many of the ones repeating it…must know. That is why they are repeating it.
  
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- JimL
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:17pm
  debate and pragmatists & relativists?
  
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- WatchOutForTheRINOShills
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 3:48pm
  STOIC ONE – When I run up against (uneducated) young people like that, I personalize it for them. So do you know that you now owe $50,000 (up from $38,000 pre-Obama) in the Federal Debt? That is a down-payment on a house…Do you ever want to buy a house? How are you going to pay $50K? Do you have $50K? well, you OWE THAT MONEY NOW! Thank BHO for that! Also, do you want to combine paychecks with everyone you work with? Then, let someone in another state decide how much of that combined paycheck YOU get…How will they know how hard you worked? How will they know how hard your co-workers worked?…answer: they won’t and they will make an arbitrary decision on who gets what…Are you OK with that?? No, then I guess you don’t like socialism, huh?……
  
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- YAHUSHUAHRULES
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 7:02pm
  To STOIC ONE this is by design…dumbing down the populace so not only do they want big government but they will not survive without cradle to grave government care. Raising a generation so dumb they can’t govern themselves, they can’t critically think, they can’t serve on juries competently and can’t vote intelligently. Useful idiots for the state – A complicit media, captured Hollywood and forcing normalization of homosexuality and all manner of perversion, war against Judeo/Christian values, pledging allegiance to the earth rather then the flag of the US and the Republic for which it stands, environmentalism a tool of totalitarianism, a corrupt, amoral, godless generation and its not their children – for the most part they abort theirs – its co-oped indoctrinated “our” children and much more
  AGENDA: GRINDING AMERICA DOWN. get it. watch it. share it the hour is late and darkness closing in from all sides…
  so http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-dkKoJ3kT8
  The answer to bringing us back is enshrined in a large statue “The Matrix of Liberty” which in granite gives the recipe for creating a moral and just people capable of governing themselves with a Constitutional Republic…The Founders knew it and lived it and America won’t survive without rediscovering why we are a Judeo/Christian country founded on BIBLICAL principles
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuN86qIqfw0 (sorry can’t post direct link BLAZE censors)
  
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smokeysmoke
Posted on October 3, 2012 at 12:43pm
this is what romney needs to be aware of… obama is going to say the same things, and probbly have a few charts… romney needs to force obama off his script and get him talking about what his plans are to grow the economy… and if his plan is just spend 2x more than bush, question that and say that the spending has become A TAX ON THE MIDDLE CLASS, and is increasing the cost of goods at the market and devaluing the value of the money your saving/ paid with… thus degrading your standard of living… THAT IS WHY WE NEED REAL GROWTH, not growth from smoking crack

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- Verceofreason
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 12:51pm
  There will not be any charts at the debates.
  
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- hauschild
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 12:56pm
  The debate tonite is a rigged game – worse than pro wrestling.
  
  How any conservative can validate the debates by watching them – which is supporting them ultimately – is really mind-boggling.
  
  The questions asked will be of so little importance in the grand scheme of things. And, the questions will be skewed to continually put Romney on the defensive, while an admitted Marxist will once again go through an entire debate without having to come clean about his ideology.
  
  I will not watch the debate(s). By doing so, I would be validating an absolute sham.
  
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- DarkJello
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:21pm
  @hauschild:
  
  Even if the debate is a “sham”, you should still watch every second. The progressives (AKA liars) want as many patriotic americans as possible to give up and stay home. They want you to be disheartened, that is their strat for Obama to win. Lying over, and over, and over, and over is their only chance to defeat Romney. Truth aint their friend. Reconsider, watch and such. :)
  
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