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Report: Electric Cars Have Twice the ‘Global Warming Potential’ of Traditional Vehicles

Oct. 5, 2012 1:57pm Liz Klimas

Study Finds Electric Vehicles May Not Provide the Environmental Benefits Which They Claim

If the electricity suppling this car was made from a coal power plant, it could be contributing to more pollution in the atmosphere than a traditionally fueled vehicle. (Photo: Wikimedia)

TheBlaze has reported on the not so green side of electric cars before — those being charged with electricity from coal-fired power plants contribute more pollution than their gasoline-fueled counterparts. Now, a report of the Norwegian University of Science and Technology takes a look at the manufacturing of electric vehicles and found that’s not so great for the environment either.

“Although EVs are an important technological breakthrough with substantial potential environmental benefits, these cannot be harnessed everywhere and in every condition,” the study authors write. “Our results clearly indicate that it is counterproductive to promote EVs in areas where electricity is primarily produced from lignite, coal, or even heavy oil combustion.”

Published in the Journal of Industrial Ecology, the researchers found the production of electric vehicles is “more environmentally intensive” than those with an internal combustion engine. Producing the electric powertrains and traction batteries are among the factors that “add significantly to the environmental impacts” of production.

The study also took a look at the environmental impact of electric vehicles compared to traditional cars when it comes to actually taking them on the road. Like the study we reported on earlier this year, EVs with electricity supplied by coal were found to have more of a “global warming potential” — increasing it by a factor of 17 to 27 percent — compared to traditional cars. EVs using electricity supplied by the “average” European source reduced global warming potential by 20 to 24 percent though.

“Because production impacts are more significant for EVs than conventional vehicles, assuming a vehicle lifetime of 200,000 km exaggerates the GWP benefits of EVs to 27 percent to 29 percent relative to gasoline vehicles or 17 percent to 20 percent relative to diesel because production-related impacts are distributed across the longer lifetime,” the study states.

The authors also found “human toxicity potential” (HTP) was a “potentially significant category” when it comes to making the shift between EVs and traditional cars. They write that HTP estimates increase with EVs in production and use compared to combustion-engine vehicles. These health impacts come from the mining of metal and coal used by EVs.

The researchers do acknowledge in the study though that with these results, it is important to remember since EVs are new to the market and mass production, “it is difficult to fix specific values for some of the parameters influencing the impacts of EVs.”

Still, overall they write their best estimate for global warming potential of just producing electric vehicles is twice that of previously reported studies. This is because they found higher impacts as they related to the battery and included other electronic components of the car in their assessment. The team states that this inventory is “a significant improvement in transparency.”

For electric vehicles to provide the environmental benefits that are often already ascribed to them, the study authors believe improvements need to be made as to the materials being used to make electric vehicles and the sources that power them for them first.

Read more technical details of the review in the full study here.

(H/T: Business Insider)

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Bangstick
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 3:14pm
I’m sure the greenies will be along shortly to declare this as junk science and reassert their global warming garbage as truth.

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- Bluebonnet
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 4:04pm
  Every time I hear Rush Limbaugh make smearing remarks about the Prius, I get really pizzed at him.
  I have my 2nd Prius and love it. Not because I’m green, it’s because I’m cheap and hate gas prices.
  
  The mileage is great, goes speed limit & more, goes up hills faster than other cars and one person doesn’t need more room. I’d NEVER buy an electric car. Love my Prius.
  
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- GETLIFE
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 4:07pm
  Well, DUH!
  
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- John 1776
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 4:22pm
  Yea, second vote for the Prius. More worried here that the Middle east is on fire, and a blowup will skyrocket gas. Still, the Prius is basically a gas car (except the plug in one) it just uses the electric to cover the areas a gas engine doesn’t work well at. On the total electrics, half the energy is lost on the grid, so I suspect they are really not green in the long run. Besides, we already know the cost of electricity is “going to necessarily skyrocket” if Lord Barry gets back in. So, why buy electric?
  
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- GETLIFE
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 4:35pm
  I didn’t mean that for you guys’ Priuses. I meant like well, duh… where did you THINK the electricity comes from….huh??? Well, duh.
  
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- UNALIEN
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 4:37pm
  You Prius drivers are subsidized, if you were paying the real “market” cost you wouldn’t be buying one.. it would be much more expensive.. The other problem is the life cycle of a Prius. the operating costs are low but the overall costs are high, the long term maintenance and high depreciation will eat up the short term savings.. Over the life of the vehicle even with a subsidized Prius you don’t save money..
  
  nothing against Prius drivers just don’t claim your saving the planet… and you don’t save money over the life of the vehicle..
  
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- Bluebonnet
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 4:42pm
  During the Y2K thingie, I remember filling up a bunch of gal. bottles, filled my bath tub, had an antique kerosene lantern from my Grandma, and bought a can of kerosene. NOTHING happened! Good!
  
  Now, Lord BO is a different sort. He really plans to turn us inside-out and we’ll all be begging from the Lord & master for a bite of food. But, just in case, as he said, “electric cost will necessarily get higher” I plan to use my kerosene lantern and lots of blankets. To heck with that bully. I’ll make do.
  
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- John 1776
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 4:44pm
  I was recently teasing a Volt owner. I asked him how many “Miles Per Coal-bucket he was getting?
  
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- John 1776
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 4:55pm
  UNALIEN- Toyota runs non-union factories in the US. Obama hates them and has ended all tax breaks and subsidies. Saving the planet? no. Saving money? Maybe, maybe not. But, if the S hits the fan, having a car that goes 250 miles on a 5 gallon can of mower gas sounds good to me ;)
  
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- Bluebonnet
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 4:56pm
  UNALIEN? You didn’t read my post obviously, I said I’m not a greenie, I’m cheap and I love the gas mileage I get with a Prius. I love the car. Easy to get around in city or on freeway. And for your information: No one subsidized my purchase. You’re probably thinking about the VOLT Prez. obama was subsidizing to the tune of thousands of dollars. They cost around Eighty Thousand, and when they couldn’t sell them for $49,000, they reduced the cost down to low $30 thousand to get rid of them and ended up selling them to the Gov’t. NOW, that’s what I call being subsidized.
  
  You’re just confused about which car and it’s all from the White House using and spending our money wildly. What I bought was MY purchase, not subsidized by anyone but ME. Plus, you might be thinking about the plug in Prius which I wouldn’t have. Drove my first Prius 8 years and never had a problem. Put on new tires, but all of ‘em need tires occasionally, and we all need oil changes if we want a well kept car. This is my story and I’m sticking to it. Honestly, why else would I buy another car the same type if it were a problem?
  
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- SgtB
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 5:21pm
  Hey Prius boys, why can’t you just drive a car with a normal gas engine minus all the bells, whistles, and ball coddlers? Hell, the old geo metros used to get 50 mpg all day long. Moreover, my old cadillac eldorado with a 4.9 v8 got almost 30. The problem is that we have the EPA and DOT making all sorts of crazy although “well meaning” regulations that make our cars more heavy, failure prone, and less efficient. Take the smog pumps that used to be required or the requirement for every new car to anti-lock brakes, traction control, airbags, on board diagnostic technology, tire air sensors, and catalytic converters (necessary only because of the EPA’s regulations on emissions which for no good reason forced manufacturers to make their engines with lowered compression ratios and ruined gas mileage). Your prius is not the best thing out there and never was. It is a subsidized mess that you think gets good mileage but just gets what everyone’s cars should be gettting.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 5:23pm
  As Gregg Gutfeld said a few minutes ago. The only person who truly has a green job, is the guy with his hand and arm up Kermit’s ass when in front of the camera.
  
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- pissantno.10
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 6:32pm
  well my ride runs on dilithum crystales i get a few zillon miles on a 1.50 all so have warp drive and lots of hot babes in my ride
  
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- statutoryape
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 7:41pm
  The process to make a Prius actually destroys the planet worse than a regular car.
  
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- turkey13
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 9:14pm
  An article in Reuters noted that GM loses $49,000 on each Volt sold to some sucker for $41,000. Sales are so bad the Federal government is requiring the Dept. of Defense to buy 1,500 of them. The only one here in our little town is a joke since it is owned by an Atourney and he is sueing Chevy under our lemon law.I know the guy that has the biggest wrecker service and it has to be taken to Oklahoma City where they have a trained tech who patches it up each time. I read where Chevy has a APP that calles you when it catches fire.
  
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- UNALIEN
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 10:33pm
  @JOHN 1776
  @BLUEBONNET
  
  No I m not confused, YES, the VOLT is subsidized by taxpayers, but the Prius is subsidized by Toyota, If it were sold at a normal profit margin, it would cost more.
  
  The cradle to grave cost for a Prius is higher than comparable vehicles, The components cost more to produce, you pay more up front, operating costs are lower but as it ages it depreciates faster and has a shorter life. Throw in $7000 battery and it not a car anymore it is a disposable cell phone..
  
  and I have nothing against Prius drivers,,, I am a free market advocate
  
  Just that few of them realize that they are not saving the planet based on 2 factors
  
  Cradle to Grave, they are not greener AND AGW is a scam.
  
  Also, you are not saving money over the ownership life of the vehicle vs comparable gas vehicles. They have a different cost curve, so you initially think that you are saving money…
  
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- nobull14
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 11:26pm
  Hey Bluebonnet Wait until you have to get scalped when the new batteries are needed?
  
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- mauijonny
  Posted on October 6, 2012 at 5:39am
  I drive a ’95 Nissan Sentra w/ 5 on the floor = 40MPG. No subsidy, just a generous hand-me-down from my folks.
  
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- Fredhead
  Posted on October 6, 2012 at 6:22am
  Question for you hybrid owners out there, ? , Would you buy or live in a house with high tension power lines running directly overhead? Why are you driving around in a vehicle, / closed compartment, with a massive battery module that on most vehicles located under the back seat connected by heavy guage cables to the synergy drive system, generating and operating on hundreds of volts, not sure of the amperage involved. Not sure of the long term effects here on the human body, but you guinea pigs that think you are saving the planet go ahead, drive happy.
  
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- oddknocker
  Posted on October 6, 2012 at 11:56am
  Come on people, our choice to purchase a car is based on one thing and one thing only. Status. If not, we would buy that $500 car off craigslist and when it broke down, tow it to the junkyard, get $30 and buy another. Ultimate recycling and, as a mechanic, cost effective. Quit fooling yourselves as to why we do what we do.
- Doris
  Posted on October 6, 2012 at 3:27pm
  Bluebonnet, Why would anyone want a car that only fits one person.?
  
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- Doris
  Posted on October 6, 2012 at 3:29pm
  What is the traditional european source?
  
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- xenolith
  Posted on October 6, 2012 at 5:02pm
  oddknocker, I respectfully disagree, it’s much more than about status.
  
  Survey after survey shows that when people shop for a car, they overwhelmingly demand a car that is as safe and reliable as possible for themselves and their family. Affordability ranks up there too, but status, not so much. Either real or perceived, a $500 rusty old beater that’s one owner away from being towed to the junk yard just isn’t going to do it for, well just about everyone, especially if they could afford a better car.
  
  Plus, if everyone only shopped for the cheapest car possible, manufacturers wouldn’t be making cars people want, and those old, used beaters wouldn’t be so cheap anymore due to basic supply and demand principles.
  
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- John 1776
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 11:00am
  @UNALIEN
  Actually, the battery costs about $1800 plus install, unless you do it yourself. Battery is warrantied for 8 years (10 in some states) and has a good track record. (Prius came out in 1998, in the US 2000) Although the first 3 years were subsidized by Toyota, the car has become quite a money maker. So much so that Toyota is now developing hybrid versions for each of it’s models. The Nickel Metal-hydrate battery is fully recyclable and the manufacturer offers a dud credit of $200 to get each one back. They are also field serviceable, with individual modules costing $40 each, although full replacement is recommended.
  The IGBT drivers, Motors, and battery are fully shielded (Faraday style) so the EMF readings are actually lower in the car then they are in a conventional car.
  All in all, a good car with a stupid advertizing campaign that is aimed at the Green-Meanies out there. In fact, I would say the advertizing campaign is what kept me from buying one for years!
  
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- NOT A CRAZY
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:32pm
  How about if we drill, drill, drill. I love belching black exhaust all over you Prius people. Those are the ugliest cars and they are virtually worthless unless you are a city dweller.
  
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- sixtysix
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 7:29pm
  Yep, like they ignored the mercury in flourescent lights. And, I repeat, just because one does not pour gas into the tank, energy must come from somewhere. This is like Al Gore’s carbon credits. Move energy production from one place and put it in another.
  
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Cabo King
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 3:13pm
Dont tell Al Gore he will explode—-again!!

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- Flag-Man
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 3:26pm
  Gore is insane
  
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- Displacedsoutherner
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 3:27pm
  Just don’t try to drive one in Denver, at that altitude the car will be sluggish, surly and it’s onboard computer may lose all it’s data, or possibly replace any valid data with corrupted information.
  
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- Bluebonnet
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 4:33pm
  Explode again? This man has been reduced into compromising honest working girls, the massage gals.
  If I ever had to give him a massage, and he pulled his trick, I’d have a tube of super glue handy and take care of his problem. hahahaha. What an idiot that man is . He’d need a surgeon to unglue his thingie from his leg. How’s that for service to that worthless piece of goofballs? ps, get paid first.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 5:27pm
  FLAG-MAN, LOL, I have known that since the Iran – Contra investigation within Congress back in the ’80s.
  
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- BCanook
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 6:39pm
  Algore protects the space-time continuum.
  
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- Drewed1
  Posted on October 6, 2012 at 12:49pm
  The electric car isn’t new, there were elec trics around while Henry Ford was tinkering with his tin lizzie! The thing that has changed is the Government trying to make electrics attractive in price with huge taxpayer paid subsidies and incentives, not the way a true market is ever deverloped! The technology will eventually come that will allow cheap production and will incorporate self-solar-charging systems with light weight batteries for more miles and economy! Best to leave this alone until it comes of age!
  
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Constantine Ivanov
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 3:08pm
There is an interesting study by David Rothkopf, “Is a Green World a Safer World?”:
A guide to the coming green geopolitical crises – By David J. Rothkopf | Foreign Policy
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2009/08/17/is_a_green_world_a_safer_world_not_necessarily?page=0,0

It should be read by all those rabid “greenies,” like EPA, al-Gore, bio-fuelists, PETA, etc.
But I know they won’t.

So, I recommend you the normal people to read that study.
If everyone of those who managed to read, tells about it to one-two relatives, friends, neighbors, colleagues, maybe we can stop or at least to slow down that green madness.

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AmericanScientist
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 3:06pm
They seem to have neglected that even wind and solar with what it takes to produce them or all the materials and maintenance involved in producing windmills. I’m so glad that human contribution to global warming is a hoax. And a question to any out there who thinks otherwise; What is the opposite of an ice age?

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- pissantno.10
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 6:42pm
  ya still need a lot of earl to make um
  
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integrican
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 3:04pm
This has been known for many years. I am glad to see the recycling and/or destruction of batteries is in the mix. Now, let’s ask ourselves how will the broken batteries from EVs that have been wrecked and are improperly sitting in back yards or wrecking yards, impact our water tables. Just like the CFB that will be disposed of improperly will put mercury into our streams, rivers, lakes and aquifers. So, the answer to cleaning up our air is to irreversibly pollute our water supply ?????? How much are these greenie wennies going to cost us in the long run? How long are we going to let them lie to us????

Forward this story!!!

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statutoryape
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:56pm
The “Global Warming” theory is about control and their core belief is false. At least with Evolution there is a large amount of evidence and it’s 99% true

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- EvilConserv
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 3:29pm
  Are you saying God is part of the 1%?
  
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- statutoryape
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 7:38pm
  No, I’m not saying god is any percentage. Just saying Darwin’s “Origin of Species” isn’t a bunch of BS.
  
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I SPY
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:53pm
Another EPIC FAIL from the obama cartel.

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marine249
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:47pm
no **** D.T
I said this 5 yrs ago.

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woodyee
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:45pm
You mean to tell me that yet ANOTHER product of the Leftist “dream child” is more destructive than the product they’re chimp-screaming to replace?

About the ONLY thing they can get right, is WRONG; well, except for the murder of unborn children, and burdening the born with debt far and away from their ability to pay – screwing up lives…now THAT they’re good at, and probably too stupid to understand what we’re trying to say…

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progressiveslayer
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:44pm
Ask the people of Spain what so called ‘green energy’ gave them,20% unemployment. Apparently that’s what the disaster in chief is aiming for with his war on fossil fuels and idiotic pursuit of BS so called ‘green energy’.

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Detroit paperboy
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:33pm
The only thing GREEN about GREEN ENERGY, is 250 billion wasted tax dollars………………..

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daverag
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:29pm
Good thing global warming is bullsh*t

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FEMALL
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:22pm
Be warned: Prius owners get real nasty when you ask how much coal they burn per mile.

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- doomytram
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:36pm
  Just ask them if their Prius hurts. Just tell em to clean out your Prius Delta Bravo.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:37pm
  I bet they also inhale their own farts like the south park episode depicted.
  
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- kaydeebeau
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:39pm
  I am going to have to remember that – I haven’t been able to think of a quick and witty way to get that point across – thanks!!
  
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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 3:53pm
  Also, what do they do with the old batteries? I’m sure you can’t just put the car in a junkyard like you could regular cars.
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 4:23pm
  Don’t ever point out that those dumb windmills are dirty b@st@rds as well. All the heavy metal that must be mined, the construction and maintenance processes and upkeep turn out to damage the environment more than a clean burning coal power plant. .. to ice the cake.. they cost more.
  
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UNALIEN
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:20pm
This is modern liberal fascism… the truth is not relevant or considered.

The ideology drives perception… it is a cult, modern liberalism is intellectual slavery

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doomytram
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:20pm
Obama and Chu most definitely want gas prices to necessarily sky rocket to 8-10 bucks a gallon.

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voting-for-romney
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:15pm
Global warming is caused by the sun, which man has no control over, the atmosphere leaks energy gained by the atmosphere with a combination of rain (water vapor is a greenhouse gas frequently found in concentrations 60,000 times greater than carbon dioxide) and heat radiation by the slow rotation of the earth’s axis on the “dark side”? That’s why the “fish tank aquarium study” of carbon dioxide “threat” (with no time lapse or accurate accounting of plant photosynthesis, wind patterns, gravity, etc.) is nothing more than psychological tool to scare you out of your dollars?

Al Gore has never acclimated to the atmosphere of Earth, let alone know how to handle Denver?
If the earth is heating up, you need energy prices to sky rocket in the direction of lower prices, in order to keep people from suffering needlessly?

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- woodyee
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:47pm
  Yep, but the Left believe that Nothing is beyond their control. Just ask Carl Marx; Mao Tse Tung; Stalin; Hitler; Algore; Carter; Gaybama…
  
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- pissantno.10
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 6:50pm
  you all so forgot about all the liberals , and moooslums blowing themselves that are going to hell this has got to cause some warming. how much did we warm when teddie croaked
  
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teddrunk
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:15pm
They needed a “study” to figure this out? An sixth grader could easily do it.

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Ironeagle
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:13pm
I never saw a problem that could be made worse … this is the case here. It’s gov’t SOP … fix it until its worse, or better yet broke. Then you hire more gov’t people and produce more regs to fix the spin-off problems you create by applying “the fix” to the original problem. There is no end to this madness.

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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:26pm
  You have a complete understanding of the situation here,unfortunately the undecided voters among us simply can’t comprehend the idiocy of big government and their good intentions that pave the road to hell. Big government is anti freedom,man made global warming is a fraud just like our Marxist POS president and ‘green energy’ sucks.
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:31pm
  Now apply that theory to education and you will understand why we are falling behind the rest of the world. But Obma wants to hire 100,000 more teachers, so we should be fine…LOL.
  
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- TJSON
  Posted on October 6, 2012 at 12:43am
  @gonzo:
  
  Yeah, meanwhile all those other countries with PRIVATIZED education are beating us in education!
  
  Oh wait.. all the countries that are beating us have public education systems…
  
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THEREARE4LIGHTS
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:11pm
Doesn’t this story fall under the no **** category!?!

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- teddrunk
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:17pm
  They didn’t need a study. It was already a fact discussed on BBC’s Top Gear years ago.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:20pm
  Yes but for the gullible among us of which there are too many the folly that is ‘green energy’ needs to be highlighted for them because they’re idiots.
  
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THEREARE4LIGHTS
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:09pm
Add your comments

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- skiz
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 4:27pm
  add YOUR comments!
  
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Individualism
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:09pm
you might have to go to the desert or very windy parts of the country to charge your electric vehicle and pay more for it to.

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- 13th Imam
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:21pm
  Never end a sentence with a preposition. You do know what a preposition is, right? loser
  
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- riseandshine
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:31pm
  13th….That was uncalled for.
  
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- Individualism
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 3:03pm
  13th go back to your racist club that hates brown people.
  
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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 3:58pm
  INDIVIDUALISM
  I’m beginning to think you failed English 101. You were already scolded on another post for your punctuation and pronouns. The word you needed was, “too.” Tsk, tsk.
  
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- Individualism
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 5:00pm
  go back in the unemployment line nobody needs your major.
  
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- Fatheroftwo
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 6:32pm
  Now, Now, Children, Lets play nice in the sand box!!!!
  
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GumRock
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:09pm
Global Warming is a HOAX
And now so is the Elect. Cars, that were supposed to prevent it,

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RJJinGadsden
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:07pm
Much like the scarlet letter of days gone by. These vehicles adorned with their “Green Letter” also serve as a warning. A warning to the dangers presented to first responders as well the occupants of one when involved in a wreck.

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progressiveslayer
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:06pm
Only simpleton libs believe in the BS that is so called ‘green energy’,it’ll never be practical because wind and solar aren’t reliable. We have enough coal to last us five centuries but the Marxist regime currently dismantling our republic is also busy killing our coal industry,ensuring skyrocketing electricity rates from now on. End the regime end the madness.

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:11pm
  PROGRESSIVESLAYER, You are so right. It’s just amazing how the wind stops blowing at times, and the sun can hide behind the clouds, but a full tank of real gas continues to work. Who woulda thunk?
  
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:03pm
How are people going to charge those things when 0bama shuts down so many coal powered plants so very soon? I guess you will have to buy a gas powered portable generator…LOL. Green energy my ****!

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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 2:17pm
  Yeah because I can’t wait to drive my battery around,essentially that’s what an ‘electric car’ is. Drive for forty miles and the battery needs to be recharged okay try and find a charging station and if you’re lucky you can wait several hours to recharge your battery. No thanks I’ll stick with my reliable internal combustion engine at least until the central planners outlaw their production.
  
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- Tractorboy
  Posted on October 5, 2012 at 3:30pm
  Next generation EV cars will come with a bike rack.
  
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