Dust kicks off the ground during an operation by U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan on Sept. 23, 2012. The war entered its 12th year on Sunday. (Getty Images)
The Taliban had mocking words for the U.S. as the war in Afghanistan entered its 12th year on Sunday, claiming U.S. and NATO forces are “fleeing” with “humiliation and disgrace.”
The last international combat forces are scheduled to leave Afghanistan by the end of 2014 after the U.S.-led invasion Oct. 7, 2001 following the 9/11 terror attacks.
“With the help of Allah, the valiant Afghans under the Jihadi leadership of Islamic Emirate defeated the military might and numerous strategies of America and NATO alliance,” the Taliban said in a statement Sunday, according to AFP.
“And now after eleven years of unceasing terror, tyranny, crimes and savagery, they are fleeing Afghanistan with such humiliation and disgrace that they are struggling to provide an explanation,” it said.
More than 3,100 NATO troops have been killed since the war began, according to the independent website iCasualties.org. Of those troop fatalities, more than 2,000 have been American.
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Rational Man
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:25pmThe biggest problem with Afganistan is the change in mission. To go over there and kick terrorist **** in connection to 9/11 was not a bad idea. But somewhere along the line the mission changed to nation building and expecting a violent, un-civilized people to change their DNA into a peaceful prosperous people and nation. Not sure when the mission statement changed, but everyone is to blame that went along with it. This is just another verse in the bad foreign policy song that gave us the Vietnam verse. Did no one bother to look at history and how it turned out for Russia? Yes, we will leave Afganistan in humilliation and with great loss of lives and treasure for almost nothing. Just like we did in Vietnam, accomplishing little to nothing. At least North and South Vietnam have a border……….
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colt1860
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:48pmNicely put.
If we’re at war, and have no mission, nor desire to kick some ****, we’re there for naught. War isn’t pretty, trying to make it politically correct was a mistake. We’re the US, and should have left them crapping their pants at the use of our mighty forces against their mud huts. Unfortunately, today, with liberalism and globalism writing our policies, we’re fighting wars for the wrong reason, or wish washy purposes, and without a desire to seem them through. This will bring us nothing to our advantage, but lost lives, resources and sovereignty. If we desire to win, we must fight them with the intent of leaving our enemies with no opportunity to fight back. Anything short of quick total destruction is a slap to the families of our troops, and a shame to the courage our founders displayed when they fought for their posterity.
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Rational Man
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:52pmOpps!
North and South Vietnam HAD a border to fight over.
(brain fart typo)
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johnpaulkuchtajr
Oct. 7, 2012 at 3:14pmEverything you’ve stipulated is a given; but, what is the core reason that all these wars in the Middle East are happening?
Is it because one of the biggest oil consuming nation refuses to develop its own resources?
Ridiculous things happen when all that “petro payola” is injected into the political system. Obama rejects the Keystone Pipeline and Saudi imports increase 20% in 2011 over the 2010 total. Didn’t Obama bow to the Saudi king? Yeah and how many times have the Saudi cash funnels CAIR, ISNA and NAIT been in OUR White House? Too many times to count and all three of these Muslim-based organizations are “unindicted co-conspirators” from the HLF terror trials! How does an US Army major climb up on a table at Fort Hood and cry “Allahu Akbar,” kill 13 people and the Army brass calls it workplace violence? Everybody in the chain of command responsible for that ruling should be court-marshalled, convicted and shot. Corruption!
Obama wil be skewered this week with proof of illegal campaign contributions from overseas. If you’re Iran and you don’t want Obama helping the rioting middle class in 2009, you load him up with campaign cash in 2008 via prepaid Visa cards that you issue to the Revolutionary Guard faithful. How easy is it to tell them to go on the internet to make a contribution like that? So easy that a tsunami of small contributions came in from China, Saudi, Iran, Syria and a host of others.
This will be the issue that hangs the Keny
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colt1860
Oct. 7, 2012 at 3:25pm@johnpaulkuchtajr Excellent point. These ME wars have more to do with natural resources (oil) than with anything else. Unfortunately, ALL media outlets refuse to point this out. Obama was bowing down to Arabian princes and kings for a reason. The fact Congress hasn’t more urgently made us energy independent, and independent of foreign oil, is a shame, and proves whom they serve. Obama refused the pipe line deal, while giving aid to South American nations to drill of their coasts! Follow the money.
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starman70
Oct. 7, 2012 at 7:19pmThe biggest problem with Afghanistan is that we couldn’t see the forest for the trees. The USSR got their butts handed to them by those “Backward” Afghans. We are now in the same boat. Our excuse was to “Get Bin Laden”. Well while Clinton was trying to Find him, CNN not only found him, they interviewed him.
This was and is baloney and a waste of our resources. The ussr literally went broke fighting these people and now we are in the same boat.
The USA is much like the British during the Revolutionart war. We parade around in Humvees and other mobile equipment while the Taliban literally hides behind every tree, rock and bush and opens fire, just as the colonists did. We have lost the mentality to fight a war such as this. We think that our fancy machines will awe the opposition but instead they become targets for IEDs.
As far as changing those people’s philosophy of life and govermnent – - – FORGET IT! After more than 2000 years of living as they do, fighting each other, tribal dominance, no central government and no desire for such, it is sheer idiocy for us to go in there and expect that we can teach them a new and better way. They don’t want it and they won’t accept it. As soon as we leave, the country will devolve into what it was before and all we will have accomplished the loss of 6000 lives and billions of dollars.
Keep Islamics out of America. Sooner or later they will fight among themselves sect agaist sect, thereby reducing the threat to the world.
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axbandit468
Oct. 7, 2012 at 8:54pmYes, we will leave with great loss of life and treasure; but not in humiliation. You can argue that nothing was gained if you believe that the follow on government will be a willing accomplice to future terrorist endeavors. We made Al Qaeda and the Taliban pay dearly for 9/11. Maybe all we did is buy some time. Certainly they will reconstitute, grow in influence, and perpetrate another act of violence on the western world. The question is when. They are quite willing to “kill them all and let God sort it out.” The threat against us will never go away until the western world is willing and able to do the same.
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muffythetuffy
Oct. 7, 2012 at 9:30pmSHOWS THAT A GREENS EATING, SMOKE FREE, GAY, WOMEN CONTROLLED, ATHEISTIC AND DISARMED US ARMED FORCES IS CAPABLE OF.Obama surrendered to his friends the TelaBan. His hatred of America and the Democrat Party hatred of the US Armed Forces has come to fruitation. Our troops will now return to America and attempt to fight the Black Nation Insurrection which it will also loose.
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poorrichard09
Oct. 8, 2012 at 8:18amWhat can we expect with a weak, spineless, muslim sympathizer in the WH?
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JRook
Oct. 8, 2012 at 10:27amAnd just like Vietnam its not about the mission, its not about freedom or liberty, and certainly not about defending the US. It is about endless funding of the military industrial complex, plain and simple. After Russia there was a need to find a new enemy. Muslims were as good a choice as any and the anger among Americans only proves how well the propaganda has worked. And of course there is the money spent and the federal deficits to fund it. There is no mission and there is no honor. We will leave broke and embarrassed.
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Dismayed Veteran
Oct. 8, 2012 at 11:12amI am one of the vets who believed that we should have entered Afghanistan to hunt and kill bin Laden and then leave. If the Taliban had wanted to mix it up with us, they would join the dead.
My son is now on his 4th deployment. I try not to draw any comparison with Vietnam. He does though.
To all who serve and those that wait:
Saint Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host -
by the Divine Power of God -
cast into hell, Satan and all the evil spirits,
who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.
Amen.
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michael48
Oct. 8, 2012 at 11:15amthey don’t need allah…they’ve got the Oblamer …uh…uh…tee time….
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lildrummerboy
Oct. 8, 2012 at 5:43pm@John…and Saudi Arabia owns a good chunk of our financial system..(i.e Citigroup)..we can’t completely devoid ourselves of these relationships. our founding fathers explicitly spoke against getting involved in other countries politics. They said trade with them and that’s it. If we don’t need to buy oil, we have no other reason to have a relationship. But globalists think we will be one big happy family…lame!
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Secret Squirrel
Oct. 8, 2012 at 8:05pm.
Shame?
No, shame is staying when there is no mission.
After we leave, the Afghans can return to the 12th century.
Our soldiers can come home to the 21st century.
Who’s the loser now, Taliban?
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RamonPreston
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:22pmWe will never win another major war … and maybe even a small one … because we have turned our back on God.
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MastrSSG
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:40pmNo actually we havent!
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just his servant
Oct. 7, 2012 at 3:01pmNo everyone, but our government has and many of our citizens have. And its increasing. These are the time predicted.
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soybomb315_II
Oct. 7, 2012 at 3:28pmAmerica has turned its back on God but our politicians still send our military around the world pretending to do God’s business. It is truly a bizarre thing to behold
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starman70
Oct. 7, 2012 at 7:47pmApparently the Democrats have. After the abysmal performance at the DNC, BOOING at the idea ofhaving GOD added back into the platform, well you be the judge.
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muffythetuffy
Oct. 7, 2012 at 11:24pmNOT EVER AS LONG AS DEMOCRATS BREATH AIR
They start wars knowing the American people will always approve of massive defense spending. When the war starts, Democrats change and attack our troops, the military and the nations we are attempting to defend. They always say tell us our ally is corrupt, cannot fight and we should surrender. Why? When we surrender the war, they take the mega funding and use it on their social programs to win election. They know the American people would never approve of massive funding, so they start the war: Korea, Vietnam, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan, now our cities. Democrats are the seed of satan. satan knows how to appeal to Democrats.
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Brother Winston Smith
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:21pmThank you Bush.
Thank you Obama.
Thank you republicans.
Thank you democrats.
Thank you for your UNCONSTITUTIONAL, UNAMERICAN nation-building.
Thank you for your UNCONSTITUTIONAL, UNAMERICAN police/surveillance-state.
Thank you for your DEATH of liberty.
Thank you for your DEATH of law.
I feel SOOOOOOOO “safe” and I now see the WISDOM of your actions… and the IGNORANCE of my warnings against them.
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swamp_donkey
Oct. 7, 2012 at 7:03pmsoybomb315_II
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 3:28pm
America has turned its back on God but our politicians still send our military around the world pretending to do God’s business. It is truly a bizarre thing to behold
our politicians dont start stupid wars our stupid neocon gop politicians do
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Brother Winston Smith
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:17pmAgain…
Ron Paul was right.
Too bad the leftist nation-building chickenhawking GOP CHEAT-NOMINATED a leftist nation-building chickenhawk Romney… to ultimately REELECT ANOTHER leftist nation-building chickenhawk Obama.
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woodyee
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:15pmWith all his “legally” earned wealth, Gaybama will find it easy to be re-employed as an ayatollah in the province of his choosing in Afghanistan, after Nov. 8 (remember Lefties, vote on Nov. 7th, and vote often!).
Nah! Just joshing you! He can’t, because he’s gay.
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Exrepublisheep
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:42pmOh.
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RightWingLeftyGolfer
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:15pmAnd what more would you or can you expect from and a commander-of-no-sense who has nothing but disdain for the US military and a Sec. of State who feels the same (read Dereliction of Duty by “Buzz Paterson). And with a bunch of “yes” men now occupying the chairs of each head of military services and Chairman of the Joints Chiefs, only military failure after failure will occur. It’s not a case of the emperor having not cloths, he has no ****** either!!
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Brother Winston Smith
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:25pmOh…
so it’s… NOT the unconstitutional, anAmerican, blood-drenched, bankrupting, MORONIC nation-building?
It’s… Obama?
Hmmm… I’m… not tracking the logic…
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Charybdis
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:14pmWait a minute! We’re working with the Taliban to turn Afghanistan into a peaceful democracy. They’re our friends now, just like the Muslim Brotherhood. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton told me so!
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Capt_Gregg
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:13pmWhat other outcome could we expect? The USSR was there for 10 years and couldn’t get the place under control, and they were a helluva lot more committed than our traitorous pansy POTUS. Having that POS as CiC is like putting Hitler in charge of Eisenhower’s forces on D-Day.
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Exrepublisheep
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:43pmHITLER!!!! Think of the children!
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swamp_donkey
Oct. 7, 2012 at 7:05pmno one ever accused dubta of being smart
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Chromo200
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:11pmThis a political loss. The GIs have done their job and the Taliban know that when they come across our troops they are toast. The Taliban die in droves and they know it. It is just that our president thinks that by sitting in circle and passing a joint there will be solutions to problems and everything will be great.
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woodyee
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:17pmVietnam was also a political loss, as was Korea. What do the endings of the Korean, Vietnam and US/Middle East Wars have in common?
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Rational Man
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:31pm@woodyee
I agree with you, but Afganistan is even worse. At least Korea and Vietnam have north/ south borders. Afganistan is a total loss. What accomplishment will we point to when it comes to that mess.
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drs1969
Oct. 7, 2012 at 10:29pmRe: Rational Man
Look at the explosion of Afghan Heroin production in the last 10 yrs. That’s your answer. It’s as simple as that.
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Brother Winston Smith
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:10pmActually, it’s NOT a “war,” as “war” was never declared (as our Constitution demands). No, Afghanistan is just a small part in the democrats/republicans’ (same thing) ISOLATIONIST, bloody, bankrupting, FAILING foreign policy of welfare, warfare, propping up or tearing down.
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wordsofwisdom
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:08pmI can almost see the headlines now “Afghanistan disintegrates back into Taliban’s control” with a story about how George Bush lost the war. Reality is that the real problem we have in this ideology fight is Politically correct speech! We just keep letting other stupid ass cultural influences go un-challenged such as the teaching of the Wahhabi style of Muslim religious teaching. This one cultural madness should be condemned by the world including other Muslim leaders because it is wrong. This song is about this type of culture & why it should be purged from existence called “That’s Not Right” http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_10789999
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IMCHRISTIAN
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:08pmCongratulations to all the people who elected President Obama and the other chosen ones that have put us in a bad light. If you wanted to make America a whimsical country instead of a strong Country then you did it your way. We have to get out of this nightmare and darkness and into the Light and Freedom.
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ModerationIsBest
Oct. 7, 2012 at 11:45pmIf you haven’t yet, please feel free to sign up and join the military and lead the charge instead of wanting to send other people to their death.
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Malrick
Oct. 8, 2012 at 12:22ammoderationisbest the war is 8 years old, and a term of enlistment is 6 years, the people there, chose to be there. The military is not a liberal social program, it must send you to bed in tears every night that the army isn’t a welfare check for men anymore. The cowards and pedophiles are gone. must break your little heart.
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The Gooch
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:04pmYep. Afghanistan can once again continue in its endeavors to be a shining beacon of hope in a world of despair. Meanhwhile, the coalition forces will slink back to their third world hell holes dominated by murderous zealots.
Gee, is this what is known as ‘spin’?
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Exrepublisheep
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:10pmYup!
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MetalPatriot
Oct. 7, 2012 at 7:38pmGooch, you made a type-o…
should have said, “A shining bacon of hope.”
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RightUnite
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:04pmEh…. Just cut off all aid… They’ll starve to death, and we’ll be done with them.
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The Gooch
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:24pmGood point. Biting the hand that feeds you should have consequence.
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pissantno.10
Oct. 7, 2012 at 6:33pmwell we do have a wild pig problem here in this country just leave a few thousand behind for them and cut of the aid wonder what they would eat
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ProudInfidel
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:01pmThe ONLY strategy for this region is:
A) Kill the leadership & create a power vacuum.
B) Step back and watch
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Aldo
Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:58pm“I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit…it’s the only way to be sure”
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Female
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:07pmYou mean like when I bug-bomb my house?
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DADDYWOREAWHITEHAT
Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:58pmDoes Robert Gibbs do their press too?
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face.chewer
Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:56pmLet’s get out, then let our dones light up the sky like a lightning storm for the next hundred years for ALL Muslim countries.
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blackyb
Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:55pmOur troops need to come back and serve the American people because Obama is not fit to serve the country and he will allow muslims to gather and destroy here. Those muslims who attempt this should be dealt with on the basis of their crimes or dealt with if the administration does not deal with it. We will do what we have to do.
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U.N.hater
Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:45pmThis is who the state department supports.http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV?id={3041AD7B-C59A-41A8-9221-C97B11992FA1}&title=Syrian-Rebel-We-Wont-Stop-Until-Al-Qaeda-Flag-Raised-Over-White-House
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:41pmObama tried to talk to them while declaring our date to pull out completely; he lied to us and today Voice to America (who called it right weeks ago) and France 24/7, confirm the story that we are now regarded as fleeing the nation and abandoning our allies in the region.
Its past time for Obama to admit he has lost us the war and pull the troops out completely. He has made us once again the laughing stock of the world.
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cottonbonds
Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:46pmwith troops in more than 70 countries, i agree. Its well past time to bring them all home!
go rim country :)
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blackyb
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:00pmObama was doing nothing with our troops over there anyway, but interefering with their ability to succeed one way or the other. It is part of his agenda, as well, perhaps.
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DR4SOUL
Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:35pmAnd this is the result of Obama’s failed policies in Afghanastan. You can’t announce a departure date, draw down your troop strength and expect the enemy to refrain from claiming victory. If we are not in it to win, then we need to just get out. Obama has no intention of taking definitive action against Muslims. In fact he once said as much when he stated that if forced to take sides he would support Islam. He psychologically is unable to deny or defy his Islamic heritage.
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The_Jerk
Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:39pmWe could have left with pride, “mission accomplished,” had we left immediately after getting Bin Laden. We are fools.
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db321
Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:42pmNobody is ever going to civilize these stupid cursed with a cursed cave dwellers – God said they would live and die by the sword and he meant it. When Jesus returns he going to drop kick all of them and their followers into the Lake of Fire.
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blackyb
Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:51pmNow it will be a fight between our God and that allah figment they got going. If those people attack Israel, our troops better be home. God, our father is going to clean their clock, anyway. It is written.
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SUNTZU
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:23pmThe one true GOD said “I AM THAT I AM ”
AND YOU AINT.
THE PROGRESSIVES think its going their way.
Their freewill has condemend them,wake up befor it’s to late.
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drs1969
Oct. 7, 2012 at 10:33pmRe: Jerk
OBLaden was most likely killed in Tora Bora in Falll 2003. That’s when we should have left. Yet, we stayed to foster the redevelopment of the Poppy growers who were shut down by the Taliban. This is about Heroin production, not terrorists.
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neverending
Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:30pmAh yes – another succes by the liar in chief. The entire world is laughing at us.
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NOT A CRAZY
Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:36pmAhhhhhhhh….Transparency. It is transparent that a maroon is in charge.
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blackyb
Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:53pmIf they attack Israel they will be dealing with something much more than any country. It is written.
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The Gooch
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:20pmOkay, what the hell constitutes “success” with regard to the anus of the globe that is Afghanistan. It’s been 12 years. Enough. There is absolutely no resource to be had from Afghanistan that matters. These peasants want to be left alone to bask in the glory of Allah and grow poppies. I say continuously fire bomb the poppy fields and you effectively negate Afghanistan’s role as a meaningful player on the world stage.
Afghanistan has ONE claim to historical importance: It’s a great hiding place. Let this lot live in squallor and bask in the glory of their prophet. That’s all well and good as long as they aren’t harboring terrorists. Deal with those as needed.
What the hell were we ever going to accomplish in that cesspool? “Oh, look! The new TCBY is open! I’d like to stop their after we dine on our favorite pork products at the corner Ruby Tuesday and imbibe are favorite adult beverage.” THESE PEOPLE DON’T VIEW THE WORLD THRU SECULAR EYES.
Me thinks the Taliban puts a wee bit too much stock in Afghanistan’s importance. I mean, who in their right mind fights over a turd? Um… you can have that… no problem.
Or do you like soldiers getting ripped to shreds in a third world hell hole… to prove a point?
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swamp_donkey
Oct. 7, 2012 at 7:09pmneverending
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:30pm
Ah yes – another succes by the liar in chief. The entire world is laughing at us.
not laughing at us just laughing at your hillbilly chickenhawk coward azz
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drs1969
Oct. 7, 2012 at 10:37pmRe: Gooch
You can firebomb the poppy fields only after the CIA has been shut down. This is their baby, just like SE Asia.
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The Gooch
Oct. 8, 2012 at 2:04pmdrs1969
Mmm, not sure I buy the CIA funding or directing opium production in Afghanistan… which is then used to support Islamic terrorism (or, as Rose Ellen would remind us, “freedom fighters”), but… what the hell… if it takes a little collateral damage (real or imagined) on our end, I still say “Bombs away!”
Funny how people believe the CIA is so damn effective and everywhere at once. Then again, since the joke is “the CIA was never there to begin with” (regarding any concern), how can you kill what wasn’t there to be killed? Pray tell, why does the CIA have a vested interest in Afghani opium production? Is that the only place on earth that produces “god” smack?
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Female
Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:30pmAs long as one Taliban is alive, they call it a victory and mock! They are just human scorpians.
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blackyb
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:02pmThey will be laughing out of the other sides of their mouths before it is all said and done. They may best leave Israel and the U.S. alone and stay out of our respective countries.
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soybomb315_II
Oct. 7, 2012 at 1:30pmwho cares – let the tribes kill each other off. we cant get out of there soon enough
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blackyb
Oct. 7, 2012 at 2:03pmThey will. They will eat their own.
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