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Report: Intercepted Drone May Have Been Headed for Israel’s Nuclear Reactor in Dimona

Oct. 7, 2012 11:39am Sharona Schwartz

As TheBlaze reported Saturday, Israeli Air Force fighter jets downed a drone that entered Israeli airspace. The IDF released footage of the interception. Now, it appears there may be more to the story.

Ron Ben-Yishai, the well-connected military affairs correspondent for the Israeli newspaper Yediot Aharonot, reports that one of the scenarios IDF analysts are investigating is whether the drone was headed to Israel’s nuclear reactor in the southern city of Dimona. He writes:

One of the possibilities the security establishment is looking into is that the unmanned aircraft, which was apparently Iranian-made, was on its way to test the option of infiltrating the nuclear reactor in Dimona, perhaps even to examine the option of targeting the plant in a future conflict.

A drone such as the one that was downed on Saturday after penetrating Israel’s airspace through the Mediterranean Sea could not cause serious damage to the reactor, but such an incident would mark a psychological victory for Lebanese Shiite group Hezbollah, whose leader Hassan Nasrallah recently threatened to attack strategic targets in Israel, including power plants.

Yediot Aharonot Reports Intercepted Drone May Have Been Headed for Israel’s Nuclear Reactor in Dimona

From video IDF released of drone interception

On Sunday, the Lebanese television channel Al-Mayadeen which is affiliated with Hezbollah reported that the drone belonged to Hezbollah. Israeli media report that military officials also believe Hezbollah is behind the drone incursion, even though it flew into Israel from the south, passing Gaza on its way. This follows previous Hezbollah attempts at deploying Iranian-made drones over Israel

Just last week, Hezbollah published an infographic detailing visually how it aims to invade northern Israel and capture the entire Galilee region one day. The radical Islamist group’s online tour included its aspiration to capture northern Israel’s main cities (which it calls “Palestinian”) including: Haifa, Tiberias and Nazareth and – significantly – articulated a desire to target strategic assets including the country’s main oil refinery and seaport.

Ben-Yishai details the new complication the drone weapon poses for Israel:

The Iranians are aware that Israel has the capability to deal with rockets and missiles with its Iron Dome and Arrow air defense systems, but dealing with the threat of a slow drone poses a different kind of challenge.

Operating a drone by remote control from such a long distance requires advanced capabilities, which Israel was not aware Hezbollah had acquired. By examining the drone’s parts, the army hopes to find out whether the drone was controlled from a command center in Lebanon or was directed by a space-based satellite navigation system (GPS) according to predetermined coordinates. If that was the case, the unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) may have directed itself automatically and was supposed to return to its base or self-destruct over the sea.

Whether it was headed to Dimona or not, the IDF will have to reexamine its defense posture and how it defends against this new challenge. Ben-Yishai reports the drone was not carrying explosives, suggesting its focus was intelligence gathering.

Israeli military officials believe Hezbollah will eventually launch explosives-laden drones. A senior Israeli Air Force official told Ben-Yishai: “In the next war Syrian and Iranian drones will also be sent on ‘suicide’ missions.”

Israel is widely-believed to possess nuclear weapons, but has not publicly admitted it, preferring to stick to its policy of “nuclear ambiguity.”

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ObamaForward_OverTheCliff
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 4:52pm
“Report: Intercepted Drone May Have Been Headed for Israel’s Nuclear Reactor in Dimona”

The White House has countered that claim stating that Obama was playing another round of golf and was nowhere near Israel.

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- db321
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 7:39pm
  Quick question for you Biblical Scholars. – What did it mean in the Bible “the Protector of Israel nether Slumbers Nor Sleeps”
  
  One More – God said that the Whole World would come against Israel? America is made up of mostly Christians and a Christian would never go against God’s word an vote for a President that would turn his back on Israel. So ether Obama is lying or God is lying. Which is it!
  
  Forgive me Lord, I am tying to make a point for many Christians who are mesmerized by a President that thinks he is you!
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 7:46pm
  Db321, not sure what any of that has to do with the perpetual warring posture of Israel and America. Christ surely never called for war against Rome.
  
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- ashestoashes
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 8:14pm
  Is it just Obama that has given Arab countries such as Iran billions of dollars each year..I wonder what the billions go for..Would it be for the insuring of citizen’s rights? Or could it be for the establishment of Christian churches..Or maybe it is to feed the people..no? What could it be being used for..making weapons of mass destruction? Bingo! Seems we lost a ….drone!!!…a few months back, of which the Iranian government I’m sure is deeply grateful. Yes..God did say all of the nations would gather to go against Israel..Maybe you guys missed that news clip..we don’e own America anymore..It was taken over by the banks in the 1860′s (who bankrupted us with things like..war!!,,and is run now as a Corporation..the Corporation began selling off the US Presidency to the Arabs in 1979.. So bible prophesy is coming true!! Christians do not lead this nation..
  
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- love the kids
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 8:38pm
  Just a thought, is anyone sure the drone wasn’t American? They have them flying all over the US, what makes you think that they wouldn’t fly them over Israel?
  
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- ashestoashes
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 9:18pm
  I thought at first it was an American drone..some of the arab countries are raising heck about it..but this article suggests it is Iranian..they have our technology now..but what difference would it make? The banks started the sellout the US Presidency to the Arabs in 1979..that is why the CIA created the Muslim Brotherhood which plays a big part in our government..that is why Bill and Hilary cheated Communist /Muslim Al Frankin in and then immediately sent him to the ME to offer 300+ government jobs to Arabs after Obams’s election..That is why we have a Muslim as President of the United States and that is why we have had 11 thousand muslims/month immigrating here plus tens of thousands by executive order..and why the UN.(a Rohtschild/Federal Reserve entity) is being petitioned to make Sharia a national law.. http://patdollard.com/2012/09/obama-vetting-1979-newspaper-article-by-valerie-jarrett-father-in-law-reveals-start-of-arab-purchase-of-u-s-presidency/
  
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 4:12pm
It’s obvious that none of Israel’s charges are believable.
The world is laughing at them.

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- 101stIraqVet
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 4:19pm
  Come Nov. 7th, we’ll all be laughing at you.
  
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- tzion
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 5:20pm
  If it was obvious you wouldn’t be here pointing it out. The fact you felt the need to even post that comment is proof of its falsehood. The only thing that’s obvious is that you don’t know what you’re talking about.
  
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- AJAYW
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 5:22pm
  @marybethelizabeth
  Are you drinking kool-aid again today
  
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- jman-6
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 5:30pm
  You have revealed that your a Anti-semite Jew hater by your stupid comment! Israel didn’t make any charges YET! Notice I said YET! They were merely speculations concerning the evil trio.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 7:19pm
  The only thing that is obvious is that Israel is a belligerent nation, and it has support for its belligerency by an ill-informed American public that is a world power, bully.
  
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- ashestoashes
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 9:27pm
  God did say that those who bless Israel will be blessed..and those who curse Israel will be cursed..So what does bless mean? God said to pray for the peace of Israel..and so we shall..Oh..and for anyone who is praying for Israel..here is a nice little utube vid for you…
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4tPC59FPEA
  
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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 12:20pm
  Mary/Jerk
  
  Was it a BCD or a DD?
  
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sybilll
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 3:49pm
All of the rules change when it comes to Israel and Bibi. ABC radio news just said that the Israelis shot down a “remote controlled airplane”. Like it was some 6 year old with a toy plane. UGH

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JEANNIEMAC
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 3:49pm
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2011/1215/Exclusive-Iran-hijacked-US-drone-says-Iranian-engineer-Video
China supplies much of the electronic devices used in our military and business machines. They could have implanted software enabling Iran to control our drones. Now China is making a bid to build and install updates of our wireless towers, etc. This would be insane. But, isn’t it Obama’s intention to destroy the USA?

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- RedManWalking
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 4:50pm
  THey did and vice versa.
  
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- Thevoice
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 6:12pm
  Well I won’t repeat my remarks from yesterday ..But let’s just say I would be very vigilant. Out side of the drones …What to me doesn’t make sense is how vulnerable Obama is putting our electrical capacity in this country in jeopardy ..Because of a insane ideology..That you are going to affect the weather…Our enemies are watching this insanity and thinking on how to use the weakness it is creating…I would say this…If We are hit in the short term Obama should be held for dereliction of duty..
  
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V-MindMeld
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 3:25pm
Israel is One button away from enilating its enemys,,,,they ought to just go ahead and do it,,,,,,,,,cause sooner or later they will have to,,,,,,,,better sooner than later the way I see it……and God forbid, obama gets re-elected, I see no other choice for Israel,,,,and yes, the Bible in Revelations paints a pretty clear picture that this is inevidable anyways, and looking more and more likely,,,so think what ya want……..

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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 5:07pm
  Mindless people have been quoting Revelations, and gloom/doom world events, for a thousand years. Every generation has its share of wackos.
  
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- Malrick
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 6:47pm
  Mindless people quote Obama as well, yet, we don’t go bug the young turks.
  
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- RedManWalking
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 9:05pm
  Israel’s nemies are vicious savages. They know not love or peace. So sad they have one fate.
  
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- bgotts27
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 10:36pm
  Mindless people are known as jerks.
  
  The most mindless of them all is known as The Jerk.
  
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TexasTeaPartier1967
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 3:22pm
Hey Jerk. For your information, Israel is the only democratic government in the Middle East that is a friend of the United States. Also, read Genesis 12:3.

“I (God) will bless those who bless you (Israel) and will curse those who curse you”

Just because there is a New Testament does not mean the Old Testament is irrelevant. Need I say more?

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- Constantine Ivanov
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 3:44pm
  “…life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.” – Torah (aka The Old Testament, Deuteronomy 19:21)
  
  “But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.” – The New Testament, Matthew 5:39
  
  How compatible are the Old Testament and the New Testament?
  
  Need I say more?
  
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- marybethelizabeth
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 3:58pm
  This is a good example of why no one takes the tea party seriously.
  
  Israel is socialist.
  
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- Constantine Ivanov
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 4:36pm
  It would be very interesting to know on what ground The Blaze is blocking my response to MAryBethElizabeth and since when The Blaze decided to establish Communist-like censorship…
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 5:09pm
  Israel is a democracy if you’re Jewish. So, you’re half right.
  
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- tzion
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 5:18pm
  @Mary
  Correction. Israel WAS socialist. While it is true that today they have public education an rudimentary government funded health care, their market system is capitalism. A socialist state couldn’t possibly be anywhere near as innovative as Israel is. More modern innovation has come out of Israel recently than any European country, with only the US and China actually exceeding it. Even the aforementioned health care system allows for competition by allowing citizens to choose their basic service provider from a list of approved insurance companies and one can then opt to, of their own volition, purchase additional coverage from whichever provider they wish.
  
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- tzion
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 5:45pm
  @Jerk
  Correction: Israel is a democracy for Israelis. Non-Jewish Israelis vote in Israel’s elections, serve as part of its government, and even serve on its Supreme Court. If that’s a “democracy for Jews” than the US is a democracy for Christians, particularly Protestants.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 7:09pm
  Tzion, just ’cause you say it, doesn’t make it true. Ask more qualified people:
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel#Civil_rights
  
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chips1
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 2:28pm
The whole plot could be exposed if they would only waterboard Obama. He is the key chess piece. Checkmate!!!

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Dave Henrie
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 2:21pm
Just a quick note to the healine editors:
How does an unmanned drone complete a suicide mission?
;)

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- chips1
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 2:30pm
  Obama was unarmed and unmanned.
  
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- Brian Paasch
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 5:58pm
  The word “suicide” invokes high drama. Islam really likes high drama, it fits well with their murder and mayhem routines. But yeah, a “drone” on a “suicide mission” is called a cruise missile. But “cruise missile” is WAY too boring a term for a muslim jihadist.
  
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hi
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 2:20pm
Where is Code Pink protesting the drone attack on Israel?

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- Constantine Ivanov
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 3:48pm
  The Code Pink is busy protesting the TheBlaze attack on the Disaster-in-Chief
  
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SueC
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 2:08pm
Just one small question: where did they acquire this technology? Could it be the drone that this administration “lost” over Iran?

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- OlefromMN
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 2:16pm
  That was my original question on this topic. Then it got hijacked by a bunch of RP “Libertarians” saying “give peace a chance”.
  
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- woodyee
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 2:22pm
  Campaign donations, perhaps? I don’t know – the DemonicRat party has a history of doing both at the expense of national interests (kiddies – see Clinton, Bill: one ea – with ears).
  
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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 2:42pm
  Most likely. Obama wouldn’t let them blow it up, so that makes him complicit. Did Iran have any drone technology or capability before they took our drone?
  
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- MDECKER
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 3:03pm
  “Fair Chance-Fair shot” Have no doubt, Barrack Obama means that this also applies to our enemies.
  
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nueces
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:57pm
Political Correctness is going to get millions killed on this planet. We should coordinate with the Israelis asap with them mounting a full scale air and land attack on Lebanon and Syria while we bomb Iran back to the stone age. Of course this won’t happen and whole scale conflagration will soon envelope the ME and we will get involved, just like in WW II, far too late with a demoralized, dumb downed politically correct military.

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- woodyee
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 2:23pm
  Why Syria?
  
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- RightThinking1
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 2:50pm
  Nueces,
  I do not entirely disagree with you. IF Obummer loses, Romney (and derivatively, we the people) is going to be handed a very nasty sack of very real, very dangerous problems. It does not look good. The Middle East on the precipice of boiling over, the Chinese prodding at Japan, Putin becoming pesky, the economy here a heartbeat from collapse.
  Clinton certainly left Bush with a mess, it’s remarkable that Bush managed no worse than he did, but that was small potatoes compared to what O. is going to leave behind (or muck up even further).
  If O. does lose, we can expect him to do his very best during his lame duck months to worsen things for the U.S.
  Speaking of that, anyone want to make a guess as to who will be on O’s Pardon List? I’m thinking Bradley Manning, for sure, perhaps Mumia, probably a host of others.
  
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- nueces
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 6:48pm
  Woodyee,
  Because they are a state sponsor of terrorism and stockpile chemical and probably biological weapons of mass destruction.
  
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blackyb
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:41pm
Those savages may attack Israel before another president comes into power in the U.S. who will deal with them. They know Obama hates America and Israel. If they think Romney is going to win, they may act before he can get in or decide the price may be too high, but this is not looking good when they are sending drones out to feel out and see what Israel will do or perhaps it was headed for some target. Israel may have no choice. I despise Obama for not giving Israel the security she needs. Obama is causing this by not standing firmly for Israel. The enemies of Israel knows Obama is weak on this support for Israel, as much as he can get away with politically, and would not support Isreal even in words if the American people were not for support for Israel. Obama needs to be in prison along with Holder.

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- NoNannyState4me
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:50pm
  False flags are rather savage, I agree…
  
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- OlefromMN
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:54pm
  I think the time has passed in which Obama could gain from an early Israel strike. Earlier the American public may have been nervous enough that they would not want to change Presidents in the middle of a crisis, now I think they would want one that clearly supports our allies. Timing has been taken away from Obama. Netanyahu is a wise man and now can act freely.
  
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soybomb315_II
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:26pm
sounds like a classic false flag

http://www.wanttoknow.info/falseflag

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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:41pm
  “… May Have Been Headed for Israel’s Nuclear Reactor in Dimona.”
  
  So, Israel having nuclear reactors is fine. No hypocrisy here?
  
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- OlefromMN
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:45pm
  And another. Do you guys/gals all hang out in the same “hemp” bar? A false flag requires the perceived “victim” to claim innocence. Hezbollah is taking credit for the drone.
  
  Filly Sools!
  
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- Maji
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:58pm
  Bibi!
  Kill as many as you can in you first strike!
  Then maybe you can back up regroup and
  kill the rest!
  
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- Pigpen
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 2:33pm
  Ah, yes, the wonderful exchange of ideas on theBlaze. When presented with anything that deviates from the norm, the neo-cons counter with sad ad hominem attacks. How exactly and why exactly did Hezbollah “take credit”? Why would Hezbollah “take credit” for getting its @SS kicked? Any evidence on where the drone was launched? Is a drone’s hellfire missiles (while deadly as anti-personnel weapons) really any threat to a large nuclear facility? Or is it MORE likely, that IF the drone was indeed from Lebanon and directed by Hezbollah, that the drone was attempting to gather intelligence on ISRAEL’s nuclear arms? After all, a drone’s PRIMARY MISSION is to gather intelligence. Maybe you name callers should THINK before you call those with differing opinions “pot smoking fools”.
  
  Do I think this was a “false flag” operation by Mossad? No. Do I think that Iran was flying the drone? Most likely, yes. Do I think that Iran which is “20 yards” away from getting “the Bomb” was trying to “destroy” a frickin’ nuclear power plant with a drone armed with hellfire missiles? No. INTELLIGENCE, people, INTELLIGENCE is the PRIMARY MISSION of drones! Research ISRAEL’s nuclear weapons and it might make sense as to why the “best military in the world” panicked and scrambled jets to shoot down a frickin’ model airplane that was flying to close to their nuclear facility!
  
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- tzion
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 2:46pm
  @Jerk
  If Iran only wanted a nuclear reactor for non-aggressive reasons, why would they build it so far underground in a remote mountain region? If their intentions are peaceful, why are they giving drones to Hezbollah? Honestly, I’d already considered the reactor as a possible destination based on the fact it was headed for the northern part of the Negev. It’s not like there’s any thing else of strategic value there.
  
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- tzion
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 2:48pm
  @soybrain
  Classic false flag? Last I checked the “classic” false flag involved the attack actually succeeding. For example, Hitler burning down the Reichstag actually happened. It wasn’t an attack that was prevented.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 5:16pm
  Tzion: “@Jerk If Iran only wanted a nuclear reactor for non-aggressive reasons, why would they build it so far underground in a remote mountain region?”
  
  Good day. Ain’t heard from ya for a while. The answer to your question is an easy one. They had to build it underground because they live near the most belligerent nation on the globe, Israel. You know, the one picked as the greatest threat to world peace.
  
  They’ve learned from the unprovoked attacks (pleural), by Israel, on both Syria’s and Iraq’s nuclear plants. People learn. Israel is the evil axis.
  
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- tzion
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 5:38pm
  @Jerk
  Fact: To this day Syria insists that both Israel and Jordan have no right to exist as both are actually part of southern Syria.
  Fact: Syria actively supports and funds Hezbollah and, unlike Israel, occupied a neighboring country for years after launching an unprovoked invasion. Moreover, their association with Hezbollah effectively makes them defacto rulers of Lebanon to this day.
  Fact: Iraq under Saddam Hussein was willing to use WMDs on Israel without provocation. The evidence is in the fact that Israel was struck by over two dozens chemical weapons launched by Iraq.
  Fact: Moreover, just like Syria, Iraq has invaded another sovereign nation without provocation. Or did you forget why the Gulf War started?
  
  The truth is, Iran doesn’t want peace with Israel. Israel has never attacked Iran and yet they continue to actively sponsor just about every major terrorist group seeking Israel’s annihilation. As for Israel attacking Iraq’s facilities, if anything, considering the animosity that existed between the two regimes, Iran should have thanks Israel. Or would you argue that a nuclear Iraq would have been a good thing for Iran? Israel even voiced its support for Iran against Iraq.
  
  Iran has been given every reason to be on good terms with Israel. So then, why aren’t they?
  
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- tzion
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 5:42pm
  @jerk
  Oh and by the way, who was it that says that Israel is the threat to world peace? Would it be the UN, the most corrupt group of politicians in modern society? Would it be European countries, which are being overrun by Muslims and socialists? Why should I take their word on the issue?
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 7:17pm
  Tzion, seems like you have a problem with the facts, and the messenger when those facts don’t describe your firmly held fiction.
  
  Fact is, Israel belligerently attacked the Syrian nuclear reactor. Fact is, Israel belligerently attacked the Iraqi nuclear reactor. Fact is, in both instances Israel made an excuse of name-calling, but, in a civilized world, that claim simply ain’t valid. Israel hates peace.
  
  And, to your second point. A large portion of the world population sees Israel as the greatest threat to peace… if you include the U.N., Europe, and the billions of Muslims. So, fact is, Israel is on a small island of support. It is the odd nation out.
  
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- Clara88
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 7:40pm
  Israel has GOD’S support…enuff said…AMEN
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 7:49pm
  Clara88, next time that you talk to God, tell him to give me a call.
  
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- Clara88
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:13pm
  You’ll be doing THAT yourself on judgement day..but it won’t be a phone call
  
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Trez
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:22pm
First the drone flying into Israel airspace should have been considered an act of war.
Second There is no Palastine.

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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:31pm
  If there is no Palestine, then might I suggest that you rewrite the Balfour Declaration. You had better rewrite the founder of Zionism’s history. You had better change the history books and encyclopedias. In short, you’re foolishly incorrect.
  
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- tzion
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 2:54pm
  @Jerk
  You should look up the definition of “is”. There WAS a region known as the British Mandate of Palestine which hasn’t existed for almost 65 years. Similarly, I could say there is no Assyria or no country called Persia or no country called Transjordan.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 5:41pm
  Tzion: “@Jerk You should look up the definition of “is”.
  
  Very Clinton-esque. We could quibble about the definition, but why. Let’s get into your history.
  
  In 722 B.C., the Assyrians annihilated the nation of Israel. Then, through deportation and assimilation, Israeli’s completely vanished from history. They existed no more. Gone, bye-bye.
  
  Some of the Jews, today, are the descendents of the Jews from Judea, a nation disposed of by the Romans in 70 A.D.. They were not from Israel. I say “some of the Jews,” because, as you know, many of today’s Jews have no tie to Judea, or Abram, or Moses. They are the descendents of the Khazars.
  
  Therefore, there is/was no covenant with these non-descendent Jews, many of whom are the Zionists of present day Israel, which was carved out of Palestine. These are Jews, using their adopted Jewishness, for the secular desire of stealing from another people, the Palestinians.
  
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- tzion
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 6:03pm
  @Jerk
  First of all, the Khazar thing is total ******** and everyone who isn’t antisemitic knows that. Since you didn’t even bother to try and defend I won’t bother debunking it.
  
  Second, your point about the Kingdom of Israel being destroyed in 722 is completely irrelevant. This is true for a number of reasons. Firstly, Israel and Judea were originally one kingdom known as Israel. The second kingdom seceded from this kingdom after the death of Solomon and the remainder was then renamed Judea. Thus Judea could be considered the “true” Israel. The modern day state of Israel was named after this original united kingdom.
  
  Second, Jews had a country called Judea which existed most recently as a vassal state of Rome. Rome, as an insult to rob the Jews of their homeland, renamed their country Palestine after the great revolt and revoked what little independence they had previously had. Regardless of what they chose to name their state, the modern Jewish state can be considered the reborn Judea by a different name. Or would you argue that Burma and Myanmar aren’t the same country by two different names?
  
  Third, Jews to this day still refer to themselves by the Hebrew term “Am Yisroel” which literally translates to “the nation of Israel” (Israel of course referring to Jacob).
  
  Lastly, when Israel became a state in 1948, they could have chosen to name their state whatever they wanted. You entire argument is based solely on the fact that they happened to choose Israe
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 7:35pm
  Tzion, like many progressives, the accusation of antisemitism rolls off of your lips far too easy… when the facts tell a different story than your fundamentalist beliefs. So, regarding your latest charge of antisemitism, let me point you in the direction of the respected historian, Paul Johnson. On page 250 of his book, “A History of the Jews,” he describes the truth that you can not handle; the historical fact of the Khazars and Judaism.
  
  If that is not enough, let’s talk about the Jewish, Kevin Alan Brook. He wrote a book titled, “The Jews of Khazaria.” Now, I’m sure that an intellectual, such as yourself, will find another label to throw around at these people, because they, too, tell as different factual history from the fiction of your mind, but in the end… the truth will still remain the truth.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 7:43pm
  Tzion, and another thing. Under Rome, Judea was not a country or a nation. It was a province. Second, Israel was destroyed and its inhabitants vanished in 722 B.C.. Judea did not change its name to Israel for a good reason. It was not Israel.
  
  Finally, the foreigners in the land of Palestine are the descendents of Abram, from Ur, the Sumerian city-state of Mesopotamia.
  
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- tzion
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 7:31pm
  @Jerk
  In reference to that second book you cited, you might want to actually research it.
  
  http://www.khazaria.com/brook.html
  
  At no point did I deny the existence of Khazaria, I merely denied the false notion that all of Askenazi Jewry is descended from them exclusively and not the Jews of Judea. I have never claimed that no Jew of today is descended from the Khazars, only that the Khazars joined the already present Jewish community of Europe and Russia. The proof is in the fact that the term Askenazi refers to them. Ashkenaz refers to a region is central Europe, hundreds of miles from Khazaria.
  
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mcdonnal
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:12pm
They will probably find that the drone contains technology that we gave to Iran a year or two ago when one of our newest, most secret drones, mysteriously went down in Iran. Never heard much more about that one did we. Nothing to see here, keep moving.

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mapgirl10
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:41pm
I feel so sad for them. Living among such cruel races must be difficult on the best days.

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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:52pm
  Zionists are the cruel. Don’t listen to me. Listen to them: http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
  
  American ignorance is epidemic.
  
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- LeadNotFollow
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:13pm
  …
  THE_JERK needs to read the Bible. Starting with Revelations. You will see Obama for who he really is.
  
  The Bible explains why it is crucial to the United States for Israel to be protected. If Israel falls into the hands of Islam, so does the United States, then the rest of the World will soon follow. Then it’s Armageddon “game over” for the entire World.
  
  The Jews of Israel are God’s chosen people. Jesus will return to earth in Jerusalem, on the Mount of Olives. Jerusalem is considered to be the center of the world.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:18pm
  LeadNotFollow, all you, self-anointed, biblical scholars? Show us where that bible tells us to support Zionism. Muslims have as much in common with Abram and Moses as any Zionist.
  
  You’re really religious zealots abusing religion for secular reasons.
  
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- tzion
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 3:00pm
  @Jerk
  Cruel people are cruel. That’s the only all encompassing statement that can be said to be true. If you had said “there were/are cruel Zionists” you’d be correct. But you didn’t say that. You categorically judged everyone associated with a particular ideology as cruel based 1. on the testimony of those who opposed their ideology instead of an unbiased third party and 2. based on the actions of specific individuals, not the group as a whole.
  
  By using the same approach you have chosen, I could “prove” that all men, regardless of race, culture, or upbringing, are inherently cruel.
  
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- momrules
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 3:07pm
  LEADNOTFOLLOW………….Of course you are correct. America needs Israel much more than they need us. God will curse every nation that turns their back on Israel or comes against her. I am a Christian Zionist. I believe God’s word, not man’s.
  
  As long as America was a staunch ally of Israel America prospered. Our word, our might, our friendship and support of Israel was enough to deter her enemies. Now Israel has been cast aside by America and by many Americans. God has taken notice of all who fail His Israel.
  
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- KidCharlemagne
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 3:43pm
  LeadNotFollow
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:13pm…
  THE_JERK needs to read the Bible. Starting with Revelations.
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  This is what I found in the book of Revelation:
  
  “I know your works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but you are rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.”
  -Revelation 2:9
  
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- LeadNotFollow
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 5:33pm
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  KID….. The verse you are referring to, is directed at the traitor Jews. The type of Jews who move to America and become Demoncrats. The type of Jews who vote for the likes of evil Obama.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 7:54pm
  So, Tzion, are you making the good Nazi argument, in regards to Zionists? Can not have it both ways.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 7:58pm
  LeadNotFollow, can it not also be said that the evil ones are the Jews and Christians who became Zionists? If you have an inside track to God, please share that number.
  
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KidCharlemagne
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:32pm
Obviously a false flag attempt to start a war with Iran:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfoaLbbAix0

As this Israel lobbyist explains, a false flag attack is the “traditional” way in which to start a war in the event that your stated enemy won’t go ahead and make the first move.

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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:42pm
  No question about the propaganda. Look, the evidence is everywhere; even here on the Blaze blog. Just look at the election scorecard that keeps popping up. Israel is listed first, as if Israel’s security is the most important problem facing America. Note that America’s security isn’t even mentioned… our porous open borders.
  
  Beck’s blind spot is Israel. He is more loyal to Israel than he is to America and Americans; as is anyone willing to spend our wealth, and our children’s lives, for that desolate strip of land.
  
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- OlefromMN
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:49pm
  If you are claiming this was a drone sent up by Israel in order to make people think it was Hezbollah, why would Hezbollah claim it as theirs? I would think Hezbollah would have been wiser to claim what you have.
  
  This is the problem with “extreme” Libertarians, logic is tossed aside.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:58pm
  OlefromMN, first you make an assumption, then you argue against your invented assumption. How progressive.
  
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- KidCharlemagne
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:00pm
  OlefromMN
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:49pm
  
  If you are claiming this was a drone sent up by Israel in order to make people think it was Hezbollah
  ====================
  
  Rebuttal:
  
  1. You don’t just launch a drone without a satellite pinpointing where it was launched from
  2. Did you even bother to watch the clip?
  
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- OlefromMN
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:23pm
  Burp and Slurp,
  
  I read your words. You guys/gals claim this is a false flag. In order to be one, it would require Israel to promote a fabricated event in order to claim an assault by another entity. That other entity is claiming credit and therefore takes the false flag argument out of play. Israel could have bombed Iran into the stone-age long ago. They are being highly restrained in their response.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:33pm
  OlefromMN, maybe it’s a reading comprehension problem with you. Show me where I wrote the words “false flag.” You just make this crap up to serve your wants.
  
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- OlefromMN
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:37pm
  “No question about the propaganda.”
  
  There you go, Jerk.
  
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- volt_827
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 3:01pm
  ref “Beck’s blind spot is Israel. He is more loyal to Israel than he is to America and Americans; as is anyone willing to spend our wealth, and our children’s lives, for that desolate strip of land.” He has done considerable work on the “porous border” with his “Rumors of War” episodes. At least Beck and his team have the guts to put it out for we the people to do our homework and at least be aware of the situations that are going on right under our noses. NO conspiracy theory here. Just do your homework before you throw false claims and assumptions of what is being portrayed.
  
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- tzion
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 3:11pm
  @Jerk
  “On Sunday, the Lebanese television channel Al-Mayadeen which is affiliated with Hezbollah reported that the drone belonged to Hezbollah.”
  
  There was no invented assumption. Hezbollah has effectively claimed the drone as their own.
  
  @Kid
  Your rebuttal didn’t dispute anything. What do satellites have to do with it?
  
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- taxpro4u03
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 3:52pm
  Exactly — all’s I wanna know is — WHO was the (NORTHERN) jackAzz that pulled the lanyard on Ft Sumpter?? :-)
  
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- KidCharlemagne
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 5:06pm
  tzion
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 3:11pm
  “On Sunday, the Lebanese television channel Al-Mayadeen which is affiliated with Hezbollah reported that the drone belonged to Hezbollah.”
  =================================
  
  The IDF says origin of craft unknown:
  
  “UAV enters Israel’s airspace from Mediterranean, shot down by F-16s; origin of craft unknown;”
  http://www.jpost.com/VideoArticles/Video/Article.aspx?id=286845
  
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- tzion
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 5:26pm
  @Kid
  Did you even have a point with that link? That article hasn’t been updated since yesterday. Moreover, just because they don’t know specifically where it came from doesn’t mean they can’t figure out who may have been responsible based on other factors. It is a fact that Hezbollah has used Iranian drones in the past and it is a fact that a news group connected to Hezbollah gave Hezbollah credit for launching the drone. That may not be conclusive but it unquestionably puts Hezbollah and Iran down as suspects number one and two.
  
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- KidCharlemagne
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 6:14pm
  tzion
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 5:26pm
  It is a fact that Hezbollah has used Iranian drones in the past
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  It’s also a fact that Israel has supplied Iran with shipments of HAWK and TOW missiles before too:
  
  http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/Iran_Contra_Affair.html
  
  Seein’ as how Israel has already demonstrated a propensity to deliver very deadly weapons to Iran before, then you’ll have to forgive me if I am just a bit skeptical of your claim.
  
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lessoneleg
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:23pm
Take our the Power Systems, take out communications, take out early civil defences.
All early warnings signs the Muslim Brotherhood surrounding countries have a community interest one big fast intervention being planned.

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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:31pm
  War, war, war! All for the tiny, worthless strip of land called Palestine/Israel. Jewish influence in American politics is harmful to Americans. Those fundamentalist, religious zealots that want “to stand” with Israel… go. Do it. Just stop spending American lives and American wealth for your fanaticism.
  
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- Amos37
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:39pm
  Jerk: You’re so Biblically illiterate you don’t even know what day it is. Pull your head out of where the Son don’t shine and wake up.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:56pm
  Amos37, don’t say it. Prove it. Biblical illiteracy? Tell us where Christ was calling for war.
  
  Look, the New Testament put and end to the secular, warring religion of the Israelites. Israel can not exist in peace. It never has.
  
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- 4truth2all
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:11pm
  Yo Jerk:
  
  The fact that Israel can not exist in peace is not their fault, and this story is evidence of it.
  What about a terrorist group that has plans of invasion and numerous Arab leaders that call for the utter destrustion of Israel? …
  
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- LeadNotFollow
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:28pm
  …
  THE_JERK…..Read Joshua 10
  ” for the LORD fought for Israel”
  God kept the sun from setting so Joshua and his army could have enough light to defeat their enemy, the Amorites.
  
  12. Then Joshua spoke to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the sons of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, “O sun, stand still at Gibeon, And O moon in the valley of Aijalon.”
  13. So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, Until the nation avenged themselves of their enemies. Is it not written in the book of Jashar? And the sun stopped in the middle of the sky and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day.
  14. There was no day like that before it or after it, when the LORD listened to the voice of a man; for the LORD fought for Israel.
  15 .Then Joshua and all Israel with him returned to the camp, to Gilgal.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:36pm
  LeadNotFollow, my self-proclaimed biblical scholar. You’ve quoted text from the “Old Testament,” not the “New.” If the Old where not flawed, there would be no need for a New. And, supporting Zionism is nowhere to be found.
  
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Tigress1
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:16pm
Maybe Iran was just sending back our drone that they captured a while back!

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Tigress1
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:14pm
Very interesting!

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OlefromMN
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:09pm
Who gave Hezbollah a drone and who’s design was it? The plot thickens.

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- Shasta
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:30pm
  I believe that Iran gave them the drone that was built by Russia who reverse engineered our Drone that was shot down. The same drone that OBlamo refused three different plans to recover or destory.
  
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- OlefromMN
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:42pm
  Shasta,
  
  A strong President would find out the undeniable answers to the question and promptly send a clear message that it is unacceptable. Whether it be through a speech, or …? The world needs to see the USA will defend it’s allies and it’s interests. In my cursory understanding of Hezbollah, they are only tens of thousands strong and that is giving them a lot of credit. Break their back.
  
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progressiveslayer
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:02pm
The cavemen were probing the Israeli air defense system that’s pretty clear.

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- shorthanded12
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:17pm
  Via The Crime Inc In Chief.
  
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- momrules
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 3:11pm
  I agree with you Progressiveslayer. This was a test.
  
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DADDYWOREAWHITEHAT
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 11:59am
Was that our missing drone or just one of many copies Iran has been ale to make after our campaignerandthief sent them the technology? They don’t need an intelligence drone since our govt now leaks all the classified data it has on Israel anyway.

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- Shasta
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:27pm
  Spying on Iran is a perfect use for our drones. We can”t blame OBonzo for wanting the most detailed up-to-date surveillance on our enemies, And we shouldn’t blame him for it getting shot down. But the military presented OBlamo with three different plans to recover and/or destroy our drone and he refused them all. For this reason it was most likely Hezbollah at direction of Iran and with assistance from Russia was able to mount such an assault on Israel.
  
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needmoinfo
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 11:59am
Was this a first strike attempt or a ruse to get Israel to retaliate? I don’t think I am really getting why it is so important to Iran to get Israel to strike first.

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- msconstrue
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 1:06pm
  to answer the first question, it could be either. i would expect that i was mostly likely a taunt, just to see what would happen.
  second question, israel must be seen as the aggressor. iran can then say to the rest of the world we told ya so.
  these are overly simplified answers, but accurate.
  
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Baja
Posted on October 7, 2012 at 11:52am
Ali Bama likely gave Hezbollah the precise target coordinates.

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- AJAYW
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:01pm
  And the drone it used
  
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- AJAYW
  Posted on October 7, 2012 at 12:08pm
  and the drone they used
  
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