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LDS Lowers Age Requirement for Men & Women Seeking to Become Missionaries

Oct. 8, 2012 9:07pm Billy Hallowell

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is ushering in some sweeping changes — fascinating amendments to policies that were announced at the denomination’s 182nd Semiannual General Conference in Salt Lake City, Utah, over the weekend. The biggest change impacts prospective male and female missionaries, as the age requirements for those eligible to participate are being lowered.

On Saturday, President Thomas S. Monson made the announcement that men will now be able to serve as full-time missionaries at 18 and women at age 19. Previously, men were permitted to join at age 19 and women at age 21. The purpose for making the change is evident: It allows for a larger pool of individuals to be eligible for missions.

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints Lowers Missionary Age Requirement

Mormon church president Thomas S. Monson speaks during the morning session of the 182nd Semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Salt Lake City on Sunday, Oct. 7, 2012. Photo Credit: AP

“I am not suggesting that all young men will — or should — serve at this earlier age,” Monson said while announcing the changes. “We affirm that missionary work is a priesthood duty—and we encourage all young men who are worthy and who are physically able and mentally capable, to respond to the call to serve.”

According to an LDS press article highlighting the changes, there are currently 58,000 missionaries serving across the globe. This change holds the power to profoundly increase this figure. While the church doesn’t yet have specifics in terms of the expected numbers, growth is inevitable.

For those curious about what the missions program entails, the LDS web site explains it in detail:

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ missionary program is one of its most recognized characteristics. Mormon missionaries can be seen on the streets of hundreds of major cities in the world as well as in thousands of smaller communities. The missionary effort is based on the New Testament pattern of missionaries serving in pairs, teaching the gospel and baptizing believers in the name of Jesus Christ.

Missionaries receive their assignment from Church headquarters and are sent only to countries where governments allow the Church to operate. Missionaries do not request their area of assignment and do not know beforehand whether they will be required to learn a language. Missionary work is voluntary. Missionaries fund their own missions — except for their transportation to and from their assigned mission — and are not paid for their services.

Watch the announcement of the age amendments, below:

The changes go into effect immediately. The church will ask, though, that all those serving as missionaries have at least completed their high school education.

The move shows that the church, which currently has 14.1 million members and 139 temples worldwide (and 29 more either planned or under construction) is looking for opportunities to grow.

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Gr8Don
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:51pm
Any one who doesn’t believe that an 18-19 year old can do this clearly has been convinced that we should expect less of our youth and that scares me more than anything else. We have become too complacent as a society and don’t value responsibility and integrity. I served a mission at 19 and it was the best thing that I have done and it shaped the rest of my life. I know these young adults leaving on missions and I am proud of who they are and how they behave. Those years for a young adult are much better spent than partying and generally behaving childishly. We need to expect more.

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- Trollkiller68
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 11:31pm
  Sounds like a great idea and possibly a hint that Romney’s presidency will be a huge missionary opportunity for the church. Waiting on the prophesy to be fulfilled here in the south.
  
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TheCalvinistPastor
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 10:32am
WOW, now we can have more ignorant and ill-equipt teenagers on our streets preaching a diluted and twisted “gospel” to ignorant and ill informed christians. how wonderful

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- MildManneredProfessor
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 11:15am
  “There are two powers on the earth and in the midst of the inhabitants of the earth—the power of God and the power of the devil. In our history we have had some very peculiar experiences. When God has had a people on the earth, it matters not in what age, Lucifer, the son of the morning, and the millions of fallen spirits that were cast out of heaven, have warred against God, against Christ, against the work of God, and against the people of God. And they are not backward in doing it in our day and generation. Whenever the Lord set His hand to perform any work, those powers labored to overthrow it.”
  
  Wilford Woodruff
  
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- ichbin
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 11:19am
  What a Christ like reply you gave there. Give yourself a pat on the back.
  
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- TheCalvinistPastor
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 11:52am
  @MildManneredProfessor
  
  Good quote, I think it fits perfectly with Mormonism as well..
  
  Galatians 1: 6-9
  
  am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!
  
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- I am 'We the People
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 11:59am
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  @THECALVINISTPASTOR get over your self. While I could understand a disagreement with some of the doctrine they preach, I cannot condone the hate and vitrol spewed out your mouth by a substantial and generally good church. Can your church list membership of almost 14.5 million members? I would say that this church has become normal no matter what you would have people believe.
  
  You are acting in a falacious manner, and anyone listening to you would be better off banging their head against a wall. In fact, your whole hearted attacks make me wonder if they may have something in their beliefs that rings true. I ask this because it seems that only things of truth are attacked with such relentless agression.
  
  Watch now as you or “someone else” brings thirty scriptural sources supposedly stateing mormanism is false. That will only prove my surmise.
  
  Maybe I should look a little more deeply at their doctrines? Maybe more people should as well, it may prove enlightening and we may all learn something even if some don’t join them.
  
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- TheCalvinistPastor
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 2:08pm
  @I am ‘We the People
  
  Again, I am going to ask the same question of you: How do you arrive at this assumption:
  
  I disagree with Mormonism = I hate mormons?
  
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- TheCalvinistPastor
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 2:15pm
  @I am ‘We the People
  
  There is so much things to respond to, ill start with this one:
  
  “I ask this because it seems that only things of truth are attacked with such relentless agression”
  
  Well, I guess using that logic, the Pharisees must have been spot on with thier traditional interpertation of the scripture. After all, Jesus showed agression with them by calling them vipers, white washed graves, and even came into the temple with a whip overturning tables..
  Like you said, ONLY THINGS OF TRUTH ARE ATTACKED right?
  I could go on and on with examples that woud counter that silly worldview.
  
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- TheCalvinistPastor
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 2:19pm
  @I am ‘We the People
  
  Lol, this quote from you is a doozy!
  
  “Can your church list membership of almost 14.5 million members?”
  
  I dont know quote what you are implying here, perhaps maybe the truthfulness or the Legitimacy of a message is substantiated by how many people believe it?
  
  This fallacy is called “Appeal to the majority”
  Just because the majority of people believe something, does not make it true. If that were the case, then the Muslim Faith would have A LOT more to brag about with its 1+ BILLION membership over your meager 14 million
  
  I will leave you with this quote by Anatole France
  
  “If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.”
  
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- I am 'We the People
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 4:09pm
  @thecalvinistpastor Oh thank you, thank you! You made my point with your ad hominum and other falacious responces.
  
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- I am 'We the People
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 4:15pm
  ““Can your church list membership of almost 14.5 million members?”
  
  I dont know quote what you are implying here, perhaps maybe the truthfulness or the Legitimacy of a message is substantiated by how many people believe it?”
  
  HAHAHAHA Are you senile or did you forget that you stated,to some effect, that mormanism will never be normal?
  
  You sir are the village idiot. Let me define that for you since you seems to be unable to comprehend basic english:
  
  id·i·ot
  1. a person with severe mental retardation
  2. a foolish or senseless person
  
  The fact that you so vehemently, seek to attack this church defines you as foolish and senseless. Therefore your only saving grace would be that you are in fact mentally retarded. What say you?
  
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- TheCalvinistPastor
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 4:49pm
  @I am ‘We the People
  
  “HAHAHAHA Are you senile or did you forget that you stated,to some effect, that mormanism will never be normal? ”
  
  I have sifted through my comments over and over and I have NO IDEA what you are referring to?
  Talk about a straw man.
  
  “You sir are the village idiot. Let me define that for you since you seems to be unable to comprehend basic english
  
  id•i•ot
  1. a person with severe mental retardation
  2. a foolish or senseless person”
  
  Ehhh, ok just a second ago you accused me of the ad-hominem fallacy, but I guess its ok for you to do it.
  
  “The fact that you so vehemently, seek to attack this church defines you as foolish and senseless”
  
  Hold on let me look up the definition of “Foolish and Senseless” and see if you definition matches………………………………..oh, sure enough! Right here on page 1485 of the Websters I make stuff up dictionary
  
  “Therefore your only saving grace would be that you are in fact mentally retarded. What say you?”
  
  Not much I can say I guess, there is an old saying that goes like this:
  
  You cant make sense, out of nonsense.
  
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- I am 'We the People
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 5:06pm
  Ad Hominum
  Person A makes claim X.
  Person B makes an attack on person A.
  Therefore A’s claim is false.
  
  I am not debating your claims of doctrinal difference to this church. I am focused on your attacks and the idiocy involved in them. Big difference. You would be foolish to attempt to stand on this issue.
  
  ["People are stupid, they will believe something because they want it to be true; or because they're afraid it might be true.
  
  Given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they're afraid it might be true. People's heads are full of knowledge, facts and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool."]
  
  You have no leg to stand on. You may not realize it, but people are laughing at you sir.
  
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- I am 'We the People
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 5:23pm
  BTW, just so you can see it here is your post:
  
  THECALVINISTPASTOR
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 10:33am
  I agree, I think this is Glenn and Pat’s attempt of “normalizing” mormonism.
  
  By stating the above you are showing a disdainn for the idea of mormonism being “normalized”. Who freaking cares if it is…oh wait you do!
  
  You posts taken, each, and read separately show a complete disdain, and a fear that there could be something to this belief. Whether or not there is something is beside the point; you obviously fear it and therefore attack it subtly and directly.
  
  You claim tolerance and acceptance be stating things such as: I know many mormons and I like mormons. The you imediately follow up by showing an argument against some supposed doctrinal idiosyncrasy. You are not fooling me, nor do you fool most anyone else, unfortunately you are successfully fooling yourself.
  
  I will say again, who care if we agree with mormon doctrinal points? This is not a theology class. We are mostly christians here; behave like one. Oh and do grow up and use your head for a change instead of baseless emotions.
  
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- TheCalvinistPastor
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 5:59pm
  “I am not debating your claims of doctrinal difference to this church. I am focused on your attacks and the idiocy involved in them. Big difference. You would be foolish to attempt to stand on this issue”
  
  Well if thats the case, why are we even having this discussion? Every one the points you have been making have been a direct reply to my points against Mormonism. [the other points you make I just cannot follow]
  Tell you what, Mormons are Emotional people [by in large] so many times, FACTS makes little difference in trying to persuade or influence discussion. I think EVEN YOU can agree with that, right?
  That being said, just telling people facts especially in the LDS community will not bait a discussion. Many times I like to use emotion, because, well, IT WORKS!
  It draws people to engage and ultimately [but not always] have a discussion about FACTS.
  
  I could care less about your opinion of me or my methods, because I have helped over 100 Jehovah’s Witnesses leave the relgion in the three years I have been doing counter-cult ministry, also I have helped a small handful of Mormons, including my wife.
  
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- I am 'We the People
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 6:07pm
  Wow you are an idiot.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 6:08pm
  @IAM WE
  
  Why do Mormons claim to be Christians? Jesus was not a Mormon, and we hear nothing of Mormonism until JS shows up in 1830 with the snake oil. You denounce the creeds and your jesus, god and bible are nothing like ours.
  
  Don’t Mormons ever get tired of having to lie for Jesus?
  
  Although you invoke Jesus’ Name, Mormon teachings clearly have nothing to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
  
  http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=b79b27cd3f37b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&hideNav=1.
  
  Matt 7: 21Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will tell me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in your name, in your name cast out demons, and in your name do many mighty works?’ 23Then I will tell them, ‘I never knew you. Depart from me, you who work iniquity.’
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 6:23pm
  @theother
  “Why do Mormons claim to be Christians?” “Jesus was not a Mormon”
  Let me help you out there. A Mormon is a nickname from the Book of Mormon, and was given to anyone that believed in the Book of Mormon. One can be a “Mormon” and not be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Jesus wasn’t a “Mormon” because first off, the Book of Mormon wasn’t compiled yet, it was still being written when He was alive. Second, it would be silly to label Jesus with any kind of denomination, He isn’t a Christian, He is Christ! LOL. I suppose you can say Jesus believes in the Book of Mormon just as much as the Bible, since He inspired men to write in both. I don’t know why you’d want to label Jesus, that’s just weird.
  Mormons claim that the Church Jesus established with a foundation of Prophets and Apostles fell away. Rather than being reformed, we believe that God’s authority was needed to restore and establish His church again, through Prophets and Apostles. He called Joseph Smith just like He called Moses, spoke to him face to face. Since it’s Jesus’ church (notice the name), I think it’s okay that we call ourselves Christians LOL. If it hurts your feelings, well maybe you should go chug on over to namby pamby land.
  
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- I am 'We the People
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 6:31pm
  So now the next idiot comes to bat arguing some stupid points again? I couldn’t care les about your qualms with mormonism, with the exception that this is not a theology class.
  I spent enough time looking at these things in my debates with the monk…my point is the attacks you and your cohorts make show your blatent fear of this religion.
  
  You fear it and substantiate this premise by continuing to counter with stupid doctrinal points.
  
  My point is that this baseless fear must be that of something that could ring true. Why else would someone so attack a church that –now that I’ve checked– gives so much humanitarian aid? Their website: http://mormon.org/humanitarian-aid
  
  You fear this organization, why? Arguements for doctrinal points are not answers. Saying you fear for the salvation of peoples souls is likewise not argument.
  
  I know you can’t truthfully answer that question, because you probably don’t even know yourself. If you want to continue trying to convince mormons to become JWs then by all means continue, but cease your stupid attacks on a religion that does much more (IMO) good than harm.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 6:33pm
  JOEY8 I am SO glad they are talking about me behind my back, like the sneaky little cowards that they are. It’s nice to know you’re hanging on my every word. Not that I have your attention, try hanging on the Word of God rather than the words of a false prophet.
  
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- I am 'We the People
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 6:42pm
  THEOTHERBEREAN Your falacious use of the term “false prophet” is rerehesible. To mormons this guy is a real prophet. For all I know, he could be a real one. Why does this scare you?
  
  Why are you so stinking fearful of this religion? What is it?
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 7:07pm
  @WE, you really don’t know about Smith’s false prophecies? Maybe you should go to those sites your Mormon buddies forbid you from looking at, and for your own good, of course. Right.
  
  It amazes me how little Mormons really know about their church, it’s history and what it teaches. Every time someone points it out, you dismiss it as bashing. That’s short sighted and closed minded. And some of you even turn into pure hate mongers and evil little imps, like your JOEY8 unit. That one could use a reboot. LoL
  
  Look here. You might be amazed. This what your Mormon buddies in the UK have to say..
  
  http://mormonisminvestigated.co.uk/
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:16am
  @theother
  Lets take a look at that website you say is made up of “your Mormon buddies in the UK”.
  Your claim: This website was made by “Mormon buddies in the UK”
  Truth: Here is the “about our ministry” on the website
  “Welcome to Mormonism Investigated UK, this blog seeks to educate Christians about the beliefs and difficulties within Mormonism both biblically and historically, and seeks to engage with members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (LDS) with respectful discussion but also seeking to challenge them lovingly with the biblical gospel.
  This blog is connected to UK Partnerships for Christ. This ministry seeks to educate the UK Church on how to respond to Members of the Mormon and Jehovah’s witness church, and others like them by lovingly sharing the biblical gospel in a confident and informed way.”
  
  Clearly, this is not a website by Mormons, but another evangelical website made to cause strife. We call what you just said a LIE.
  If I google “why Christianity is wrong”, does it mean that all of the websites on there are true? Somebody obviously thinks those websites are true. Do you know what “bias” means? Why does that UK Ministry website have authority on the subject? Why is it trustworthy?
  I’m in the middle of writing my research proposal on estimated VO2max, so you’ll understand why my BS radar is extra sensitive. I wish I could get away with what you do with research. My class would be so easy.
  
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- MildManneredProfessor
  Posted on October 10, 2012 at 1:53am
  @Calvinpastor
  
  The false theology of Calvanism at work saving the souls of so many lost people. But then again, Calvin had such a unique point of view regarding the 5 points he taught. But that is only because none of the virtues purported by Calvin are actually found in the bible . . . just the philosophies of a man purporting the teachings of man mingled with scripture. Maybe like Calvin you can have all the non-believers (Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses) burned at the stake for not believeing your man made philosophy mingled with scrpture.
  
  Calvanism teaches:
  
  1. Total hereditary depravity – Babies inherit the sin of Adam and are totally depraved and therefore unable to respond to the gospel message of Christ.
  
  2. Unconditional election – (or predestination) God had a master list of those who will be saved and those who will go to hell before creation in Gen 1:1. The list is unchangeable (The JW faith believes a similar teaching – 10,000 saved).
  
  3. Limited Atonement – Christ did not die for all men but only those on the “saved list”
  
  4. Irresistable grace – God sends the Holy Spirit only to those on the saved list which removes their depraved nature inherited from Adam and creates within them a saving faith in Christ. The Holy Spirit thereafter guides them directly to understand and correctly interpret the Bible.
  
  5. Perseverance of the saints – A child of God once saved, cannot be lost.
  
  What a great religion of hope and salvation!
  
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- I am 'We the People
  Posted on October 10, 2012 at 10:43am
  @JOEY8 @MILDMANNEREDPROFESSOR
  
  Thanks for your replies. It is unfortunate that they won’t answer my question. I have to wonder if they can answer it themselves, if they can even allow themselves to consider it. Ah, but I may only be grasping at the straw of human decency within them, unable to gain a foothold.
  
  The big question is why do people fear things like the Mormon faith? Why do they insist on attacking what they fear? …they only bring light to the thing they attack, as well as giving it due/undue credit.
  
  I.E. If you fear murderers and won’t stop talking of them you make them out to be something larger than life, through all the focus of conversation. The same goes for a church or doctrine you may disagree with.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 10, 2012 at 2:36pm
  JOEY8, haven’t the Mormon thugs dragged you back to the temple for reprogramming yet? I don’t think a reboot will do it. LoL
  
  @WETHEPEOPLE,
  
  Liberals aren’t “we the people,” liberals are “me the people.”
  
  The only questions you’ve asked is why does everyone pick on my religion. The rest of the gas you pass is nothing but condescending remarks that everyone but Mormons are idiots. Who is the intolerant bigot? You are.
  
  Beck said just today on his radio show that he admired people who stand up for the truth. I guess he’s an idiot too.
  
  If you’re going to be a Mormon you might as well get used to knowledgeable Christians pointing out hypocrisy, heresy and anti-Christian doctrines and teachings in your church. Not because we hate Mormons but because the entire premise of the Mormon religion is a direct attack on Orthodox Christianity. Those are facts, and if you can’t take the heat then get out of the kitchen.
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 10, 2012 at 4:16pm
  @the other
  I don’t think you understand the difference between fact and opinion. Opinions can be facts sometimes but not always, and facts are facts. When you say “Mormons aren’t Christian”, the scientist in me questions where you got it from, what kind of standard you’re using, whether you hold every religion to that standard, and any kind of bias or motivation behind the statement. Because you’re quick to shout out emotional charged statements with out any verifiable fact or source, we just can’t take any of your claims very serious. I think you let your emotions get the best of you and it results in your embarrassment.
  I would recommend taking a step back, looking at all sides of the argument, ask yourself these same things I listed.
  If you prayed and asked God if the Book of Mormon was true, and He answered that it was,would you be willing to drop your net and follow Christ? I asked God after reading it and He answered my prayer. Go study James 1:5-6 and read the Book of Mormon without any commentary from either side, and ask God.
  If God tells you that something is true and from Him, it shouldn’t matter what anyone else says about it. God is the authority and source of truth
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:02am
  How do you “know” it was God?
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:58pm
  @theother
  “How do you “know” it was God?”
  This is the most honest question you’ve asked yet, and I applaud it. I promise you, you don’t need to know Greek to understand this, for little children can and do understand this.
  We have many instances in the Bible with God’s Spirit speaking to man. I like the experience Elijah had:
  “And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the Lord. And, behold, the Lord passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the Lord; but the Lord was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the Lord was not in the earthquake:
  And after the earthquake a fire; but the Lord was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice”
  That is the best Biblical explanation of the Holy Ghost, a still small voice. In the New Testament, we can read of the fruits of the spirit being: “love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.”
  Further, we are told “For God has not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind”.
  The Holy Ghost talks to our minds and our hearts, for he is able to convey feelings as well as help us learn and bring things to our remembrance. I would urge you to study the Holy Ghost and how you can understand his answers.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 6:40pm
  JOEY8
  
  You didn’t answer my question.
  
  When you had that “burning in the bosom” that you say is a signal from God to you that “yes,” the Book of Mormon is true, how do you “know” it was “God?”
  
  Know, being the key word. How do you “know” it was God?
  
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TheCalvinistPastor
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 10:30am
yet again “The Blaze” becomes a mormon propaganda news ntwk, lol
why is this story newsworthy again?

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- Erica
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 11:03am
  Not a single Blaze writer is LDS (“Mormon”). Just sayin’…
  
  As for why its relevant, the conference this was announced in was trending on twitter US wide for most of Saturday and Sunday. Lots of chat about this on Facebook and Twitter (and news outlets around the country- mostly out West probably). Not to mention a “Mormon” is running for President, so people are generally more curious about the religion. So I’d say its news worthy.
  
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- MildManneredProfessor
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 11:36am
  At what point did hatred overtake your heart? When did you stop loving? Why must you lash out at people who believe something different than you?
  
  13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
  
  14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
  
  15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
  
  16 Hereby perceive we the love bof God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
  
  17 But whoso hath this world’s good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
  
  18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
  
  19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
  
  20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and aknoweth all things.
  
  21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
  
  22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his ccommandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
  
  23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
  
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- TheCalvinistPastor
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 11:55am
  @mildmanneredprofessor
  
  “At what point did hatred overtake your heart? When did you stop loving? Why must you lash out at people who believe something different than you? ”
  
  Can you please explain to me how you arrived at this conclusion :
  I disagree with Mormonism = I hate mormons ?
  
  If you can give me an intelligable reply to this statement that would be great.
  By the way. I love mormons, All of my in laws are members, my wife is a former lds and most of my friends are LDS. Its just amazing how you can arrive at a conclusion like that just because I disagree.
  
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- TheCalvinistPastor
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 11:56am
  @Erica
  
  “Not a single Blaze writer is LDS (“Mormon”). Just sayin’
  
  Where did you get this information? How do you know this?
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:14pm
  Hey “pastor”, trying to cause more strife? What do the scriptures say about those who attempt to cause strife? I’m sorry we’ve brainwashes you into clicking on this website and on these stories. We’ll try to let you worry about your own life
  
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- TheCalvinistPastor
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 2:29pm
  @Joey8
  
  I am responding to this quote from you: “We’ll try to let you worry about your own life”
  
  Ok, tell you what, the moment the LDS missionaries STOP trying to convert Christians away from the Bible, I will then “Worry about my own life”
  
  The problem is, you want to have your cake and eat it too… Why is it that you cry Foul when I counter Mormon Doctrine, yet on the other side of the token, LDS missionaries should be given free reign to convert? So I should mind my own business, but the LDS missionaires SHOULDNT??
  
  Seems a little one sided dont you think?
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 3:03pm
  @the”pastor”
  “counter Mormon Doctrine”
  So let me try and find an example on this page where you “countered” Mormon doctrine.
  Was it when you said ” now we can have more ignorant and ill-equipt teenagers on our streets preaching a diluted and twisted “gospel”
  Or when you said “yet again “The Blaze” becomes a mormon propaganda news ntwk”
  Are those your examples of “countering” Mormon doctrine? Let me show you an example of what you’re doing
  Acts 17:13
  “But when the Jews of Thessalonica had knowledge that the word of God was preached of Paul at Berea, they came thither also, and stirred up the people.”
  Your “countering” the Mormon doctrine sounds more like what these Jews in Thessalonica did, stir people up. What do you think this verse means when they say “stir up”. Do you think these Jews would’ve thought they were “countering” the doctrine Paul was teaching?
  
  “Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness.”
  You’re dishonest if you claim that you come here to “counter” doctrine when you make comments like “more ignorant and ill-equipt teenagers on our streets”, comments that you say in order to get a certain reaction.
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 3:09pm
  @the”pastor”
  Also, you are in no position to cry because you think there are too many stories on Mormons, when you comment on stories that have NOTHING to do with Mormons and use it as an excuse to cause strife.
  Example: The story on the weirdo evangelicals in Massachusetts, you made the comment, “And how is this any different then what the Mormons do in thier temple rituals? lol”
  The story didn’t mention Mormons at all, but you decided to make it about Mormons. How can you cry that there are too many Mormon stories when you make every story about us? What does that say about you?
  If you want to “counter” doctrines, I’d be happy to go over the “Perseverance of the saints”, or “once saved always saved” Calvin doctrine with you.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 5:40pm
  @PASTOR,
  
  I actually enjoy when Mormonism comes up. That gives me yet another opportunity to share Jesus Christ with them.
  
  President Joseph Fielding Smith, the tenth LDS prophet said:
  
  Mormonism, as it is called, must stand or fall on the story of Joseph Smith. He was either a prophet of God, divinely called, properly appointed and commissioned, or he was one of the biggest frauds this world has ever seen. There is no middle ground. If Joseph Smith was a deceiver, who willfully attempted to mislead the people, then he should be exposed; his claims should be refuted, and his doctrines shown to be false, for the doctrines of an impostor cannot be made to harmonize in all particulars with divine truth. If his claims and declarations were built upon fraud and deceit, there would appear many errors and contradictions, which would be easy to detect (D. of S. Vol. 1, p. 188).
  
  So hush, you poor bashed Mormons. You asked for it.
  
  Mormons think the following is harsh, but history has revealed that Joseph Smith is not only a proven false prophet, but a womanizing occultist and snake oil salesman with a penchant for teenage girls and other people’s wives.
  
  Don’t let the Mormon heathens intimidate you with the liberal left’s satanic tactic of attacking your character to convince people not to listen to your arguments. Their words speak for themselves and yours do too.
  
  Drive on brother….
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 5:55pm
  JOEY8 did you soil yourself again? For crying out loud, call your mommy. We don’t care about your toilet habits, anymore than your half baked, non Christian, heathen religious beliefs. With a sexual pervert for a church founder, it’s no wonder you’re such a perversion.
  
  This is talking about you, JOEY8 Better listen up:
  
  2 Thess 2: 9The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 6:16pm
  @theotherthessalonian
  Hey we were just talking about you, did you see the verse in Acts 17 I put up? What happened to you on the other stories? Things were just getting interesting but you bailed.
  I enjoy your quote on Joseph Smith. The authenticity of the church hangs on the claim of a 14 yr old boy and his visit with the Father and the Son. Pretty crazy! Also, the authenticity of the Jews and the Law of Moses hangs on the claim that a man spoke with God and received tablets that God wrote on! Sounds crazy too! The authenticity of Christianity hangs on the claim that The Father sent His son who died for us, and was risen! CRAZY!
  I don’t see what you were trying to prove with that point. I can tell you what I was trying to prove with mine, this is for you and the “pastor”:
  For a couple of clowns that cry about how Mormons are everywhere, you sure talk about them a lot. Both of you try to find any way to bring up Mormons in any kind of story. In the medical field we call that an obsession, an unhealthy obsession. You two can claim doctrinal differences, but that is not what you try to discuss. You try to cause strife, throwing emotion in where it doesn’t belong and your dishonest claims have no backing. I’m always available to talk doctrine, but when you say “Joseph Smith was a womanizer” and don’t provide any proof or even a source of where you read it, that is dishonest, lazy, and NOT Christian
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 6:30pm
  @theother
  I also enjoyed this part “there would appear many errors and contradictions, which would be easy to detect”
  Isn’t it funny that almost 200 years later, these errors and contradictions haven’t found ground at all and the truth keeps going forth across the world? Isn’t it funny that the only errors and contradictions we find are when you try to explain your belief in a Jesus that wasn’t resurrected with the same body that was laid in a tomb, in a God that only answers the prayers of people with Bibles (what about before the Bible?), and a God that didn’t speak to Moses face to face, like a man speaks with his friends. We’ve found plenty of errors and contradictions in just a few days of learning about your faith, but 200 years after Joseph Smith restored Christ’s church, millions of people across the world believing in the Book of Mormon and in a God that still speaks to prophets.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 7:12pm
  JOEY8 yeah yeah yeah, you’re like a clanging bell. Get behind me Satan.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 7:14pm
  JOEY8, you know, if you ran off at the ****, like you do at the mouth, you would probably poop yourself to death. LoL.
  
  Troll on, mindless bigot.
  
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- MildManneredProfessor
  Posted on October 10, 2012 at 2:21am
  @Calvinistpastor
  
  “Can you please explain to me how you arrived at this conclusion :
  I disagree with Mormonism = I hate mormons ? ”
  
  I agree, your comment:
  
  “WOW, now we can have more ignorant and ill-equipt teenagers on our streets preaching a diluted and twisted “gospel” to ignorant and ill informed christians. how wonderful”
  
  is one of love and tolerance for people who believe in Jesus as their savior. Your entire discussion on this subject is attack ridden and hateful. You even go so far as to compare yourself to Jesus in that he spoke bolkdly in His temple so therefore you can turn over tables and tear at the hearts of those who are different than you. Righteous retribution? You are really claiming this as your right? Go ahead and pretend to be Jesus’ mouthpiece . . . Keep speaking boldly here pastor . . . I am sure your words of love and ill conceived conviction will bring many into your flock . . . how long did you have to tear down your wife’s faith beforfe she relented to your way of thinking? Go and find more JW’s and Mormons to save . . . I am sure your contention will bring them to salvation. Maybe you can work on the Obama campaign . . . he seems to do the same thing when he cannot win a debate. How manly you must feel using harsh words and righteous retribution to “convince” people of their wrongful ways! Bravo . . . contention is of who? Or does your bible cover this scripture?
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 10, 2012 at 3:07pm
  @MILD, the point is, Mormons and Christians believe in different Jesus’, different Gods and different Gospels. When we attempt to point that out, we are accused of bashing your religion.
  
  You guys started it with stuff like this…
  
  LDS Apostle B. H. Roberts wrote, “Saddening as the thought may seem, the Church founded by the labors of Jesus and His Apostles was destroyed from the earth; the Gospel was perverted; its ordinances were changed; its laws were transgressed; its covenant was, on the part of man, broken; and the world was left to flounder in the darkness of a long period of apostasy from God… a universal apostasy from the Christian doctrine and the Christian Church took place” (D.H.C., Vol. I, Introduction, pp. 39 and 41).
  
  There is no evidence for such, and even Mormon scripture denies a total or universal apostasy. The B. of M. III Nephi 28 and the D. & C., Section 7.
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 10, 2012 at 4:34pm
  @the other
  Most of what you said is just your opinion and that’s fine, but you did say something that we can verify if you are being truthful
  “There is no evidence for such, and even Mormon scripture denies a total or universal apostasy.”
  The scriptures you listed are ones I am very familiar with. Where in those Scriptures does it show that we don’t believe in a falling away?
  The question is, can God’s people turn away from Him even when there are prophets on the earth? Have you ever read the Old Testament? So how do we define a “falling away” or apostacy? That’s the real question to ask.
  Isaiah defined it as
  “The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.”
  And Amos
  “Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord”
  This involves people turning away, changing ordinances, breaking covenants, and the Lord removing his mouthpiece(authority). You seem to think that as long as there are prophets, people obey God. The Bible teaches different
  Now ask yourself, did any of this happen after Christ organized a church with a foundation of prophets and apostles?
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:04am
  The problem is that Smith is a false prophet.
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 12:13am
  @theother
  “The problem is that Smith is a false prophet”
  Again, your opinion which you can have, but you fail to provide any source or show any proof to this claim. I’ll make it easy for you
  Jesus taught us how to discern true prophets from false ones:
  “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
  What is the fruit of Joseph Smith? The Book of Mormon. That is the testable fruit that anyone can read and pray to ask God. Here is the test given in the back of the Book of Mormon:
  “And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost.”
  Real intent, meaning “God, if you tell me this is true, I’ll drop my net and follow”. That’s real intent, sincerity and honesty
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 6:53pm
  JOEY8,
  
  Living a good life is not the test for a false prophet. Deut 13 and 18 teach that a false prophet is someone who claims to speak for God, but at least one of their prophecies have failed. That what determines whether or not to follow a prophet. Joseph Smith and other Mormon Prophets, Apostles and Presidents, have uttered “at least” a dozen false prophecies in God’s Name.
  
  Every Mormon’s friend is the Tanners.
  
  http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/howdowetestaprophet.htm
  
  http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/falseprophecies.htm
  
  “In 1844, Joseph Smith prophesied that his son David would be a church president and king over Israel. David, however, was never even a member of the LDS church, much less a president or king of anything.” http://www.ldsvideo.org/2011/06/joseph-smiths-false-prophecies.html
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 7:09pm
  JOEY8
  
  The test in the back of the Book of Mormon is not valid, if for no other reason than Joseph Smith is a false prophet.
  
  Here’s just one example. “In 1844, Joseph Smith prophesied that his son David would be a church president and king over Israel. David, however, was never even a member of the LDS church, much less a president or king of anything.”
  
  “And there are dozens more false prophecies about to the return of Christ, the building up of Zion temples, and other cities, the destruction of the US government and other enemies, and the fate of certain church members, etc. Mormon apologists have defenses for all of these, insisting that Smith never made a false prophecy, but also insisting that true prophets can make false prophecies.”
  
  http://www.ldsvideo.org/2011/06/joseph-smiths-false-prophecies.html
  
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FEARDOM
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 5:14am
“…orthodox Christian views of God are Pagan rather than Christian.” (Mormon Doctrine of Deity by B.H. Roberts, p.116)

“…the God whom the ‘Christians’ worship is a being of their own creation…” (Apostle Charles W. Penrose, JD 23:243)

“The Christian world, so called, are heathens as to their knowledge of the salvation of God.” (Brigham Young, JD 8:171)

“Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls (McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p.177)

“The Roman Catholic, Greek, and Protestant church, is the great corrupt, ecclesiastical power, represented by great Babylon….” (O. Pratt, Writings of an Apostle, “Divine Authenticity,” no.6, p.84).

“Both Catholics & Protestants are nothing less than the “whore of Babylon” whom the lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness.” (Pratt, The Seer, p.255)

“Evil spirits control much of the so-called religious worship in the world; for instance, the great creeds of Christendom were formulated so as to conform to their whispered promptings.” (Bruce R. Mc

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- damon_k
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 5:37am
  What the heck is this babble. If you want to read coherent insights go to: http://smallcraftadvisorychronicles.blogspot.com/
  
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Shoot2Stop
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 4:57am
I always thought the LDS church had at least ‘some’ minimal standards for membership. How is it possible that any organized superstition can allow the likes of Harry Reid and Mitt Romney under the same roof?

Romney seems to be an above average honest and moral man – But Reid? Beyond reevaluating their age limits for missionaries, maybe the LDS elders should revisit their standards for membership.

The late great Groucho Marx had a salient view of membership in general. “I refuse to join any organization that would have the likes of me as a member.”

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- Goldhelox
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 7:12am
  OK, here’s my theory. Harry Reid is the most deeply embedded double agent in the history of politics. We all *think* he’s a mindless fanatic, but maybe that’s exactly what he want’s us all to think. Maybe he’s secretly feeding insider information to team Romney. In any case – I think we should spread the rumor that he is a double agent if only to sow dissent and suspicion in Chicago.
  
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- rx4nv
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 11:40am
  Who did Christ spend His time with and ask to become a member of His Church? He did not ask who were the most perfect people around and the congregate with them. He found those that were humble and ready to listen to his message and follow. The LDS church being the church of God believes this same thing. You become a member of the church when you get baptized and promise to remember the sacrifice Christ made for you, take the name of Christ upon you, always remember him by acting as he would in all situations. Harry Reid and Mitt Romney have very different perspectives on how to run the country, does that mean that they can’t believe in the same God? No. God is not political. Does God care if the starving children get fed by a church member or by a government worker? No. He only cares that someone has cared for this needy child. Does Harry Reid’s belief in big government make him the devil, while Mitt Romney’s belief in small government and a bigger role by the people make him a saint? No. Do these differing views disqualify one of them from being a member of God’s Church? No. That is the beauty of membership in God’s Church (the LDS church), it is not political. You are taught the principles of the gospel (not democrat versus republican) and you get to decide how to use them to honor God (which may be part of the democrat platform and part of the republican platform).
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 6:14pm
  Actually, they’re both just confused about “Who” Jesus is.
  
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loneindividual
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 4:45am
Religious Organizations were strongly involved in the starting the American Revolution.

MIGHT I REMIND PEOPLE

It was only a few that did, and even the founding fathers had their own UNIQUE VIEWS regarding God & Jesus.

EVEN JOHN LOCKE FFS VIEWED JESUS CHRIST AS DISTINCT FROM THE FATHER!

The religious superiority complex that some people have actually keeps them in a God-Damned BUBBLE of UNENDING STUPIDITY.

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judyaz
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 2:18am
Those well-dressed kids who come to my house and invite me to look within my own self to see if Joseph Smith was a prophet. I always tell them I already know he is. The spiritual messengers of God I know told me so.
They are very welcome because I know it is true. But what I have trouble with is calling these kids “elders,” when I’m 25 years their senior and a minister. May God bless them too.
How much courage they have to go on a mission.

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- christianforever
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 3:15am
  Who were the spiritual messengers?
  
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- Machtyn
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:02pm
  Elder is a title, not a description of age. A Patriarch in old times and really old times did not indicate age, either. When the Prophet Samuel was called by God, he was somewhere between 8 and 12 years old. He was an elder to even Eli, who was aging so much that his “eyes began to wax dim.”
  
  Whom God chooseth, he qualifies. It matters not the age nor the title.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 6:22pm
  The problem for Mormons is that it’s a fact that Smith uttered many false prophecies, and Mormons willingly ignore the clear teaching of Deuteronomy Chapter 13.
  
  1If there arise in the midst of you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and he give you a sign or a wonder, 2and the sign or the wonder come to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, “Let us go after other gods” (which you have not known) “and let us serve them;” 3you shall not listen to the words of that prophet, or to that dreamer of dreams: for Yahweh your God proves you, to know whether you love Yahweh your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
  
  Mormons (LDS) admittedly worship a different god.
  
  http://tinyurl.com/8o2uzzl
  
  I mean…. what is a reasonable person to do with these facts? Just ignore them like you?
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 6:39pm
  @theother
  The “facts” that you left out were the so called false prophecies of Joseph Smith. Those would be better “facts”.
  I just googled “failed bible prophecies” and guess what I found, websites that list all of the failed Bible prophecies. What do you make of those facts? And before you accuse me bashing the Bible, stop and think about the point I’m trying to make. Take all the time you need.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 7:33pm
  JOEY8, if you are going to play dumb and argue that Smith never uttered false prophecies, you really have it bad.
  
  We could play sit and spin for hours and when that doesn’t work you’ll try to convince everyone that I’m a really bad person and should be ignored.
  
  You know, if you would just read the Bible (try a NKJV) and ask the Holy Spirit to lead you to the knowledge of the truth as you read, you will know the truth and it will set you free. John 8:32 It’s obvious the Mormon “grip” has rendered you someone you don’t really want to be, and Jesus said: For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.” Matt 11:30
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:18am
  @theother
  So, what you’re trying to say is that you don’t have any of these so called prophecies? That’s too bad, another “bomb” you dropped on us Mormons just like our discussion on the Book of Abraham that you were so excited about. What else do you have?
  
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- MildManneredProfessor
  Posted on October 10, 2012 at 2:52am
  @thebotherberean
  
  I do not feel that you have any right saying that “your” Jesus is more true than the Jesus Mormons believe in. You are like the original Bereans who believed they were more righteous and in tune than the Thessolonians or the other congregations at the time of the Apostles You claim the Bible is the all in all and yet deny the very organization of the church that Jesus Himself established as presented in the Bible. But this is a baptist at his heart . . . they cannot believe on many things within their own congregations because there are 8,000 interpretations that differ among each self-proclaimed pastor. The “Baptist” church is being torn apart by conflicting views in its own ranks. But when it comes to the Mormon interpretation of Jesus this is wrong altogether, right? I have read over 600 books on religion and the doctrines of different faiths. I have read over 50 anti-Mormon books and found them monotenous while discussing the same old garbage that was used 150 years ago, all of which have been dealt with in well established rebuttals. I wonder what the Beran believers would do if an archeological find discovered a new book written by the people of Berea? Would they accept it as truth or disregard it because it is not a part of their interpretation of the Bible? Never mind the Apocrypha, the Naghamati records, and the 50 other early Christian writings that are not included in the “Bible.” And you wonder why people question religion these
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 10, 2012 at 3:38pm
  @MILD and JOEY8ABIGONE
  
  I”m not a Baptist. That negates about 90% of your argument @MILD. The rest only tells me that you have relied on what they teach at the temple about the origins of the Bible rather than finding out for yourself. And you are misinformed at least, and consequently helping to perpetuate that lie about my faith. So claiming that I am attacking you, when you are attacking me, is typical Saul Alynsky.
  
  JOEY8, C’mere, I say C’mere, boy. That’s not a chicken. This here is a chicken. Now go get your reprogramming and then talk to me later son. Your snake oil is tainted.
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 10, 2012 at 4:44pm
  @the other
  Would you be willing to share with everyone what you found to be the origin of the Bible, the Bible being the compilation of the books. Who organized it? Who decided what qualified to go in it? What was left out? What authority did these men have to decide what was inspired writing and what wasn’t? what were they thinking with the songs of solomon? These are very critical questions that are fair to ask, and should be asked of the Book of Mormon too? Are you as critical of the Bible as the Book of Mormon? Why not? Shouldn’t they be held under the same set of standards as to what is true?
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:21am
  The reason I avoid you JOEY8 is because you’re a disgusting little puke with absolutely no morals, scruples and values, and you just go round and round in circles selling the JS snake oil brand. I have better things to do than waste my time trying to dispute your garbage. It speaks for itself.
  
  http://www.gotquestions.org/canon-Bible.html
  
  I’ve posted that link for you before, and all the answers and information you need to prove that there was no need for Joseph Smith to “restore” Christianity.
  
  And thanks again for engaging me. That just gives me a larger audience with which to share the real Gospel of Jesus Christ instead of the Mormon imposter, “which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ..” Gal 1:7.
  
  Here is another great source of information. http://utlm.org/onlinebooks/mclaimscontents.htm
  
  And here http://mormonisminvestigated.co.uk/
  
  And you can lie again and argue that last one is not from LDS members, but it is, and this can be determined by their words… “feeling isolated from my local LDS community because I value historical truth.”
  
  All Mormons (LDS) should read that site, and not just blow it off after a few words, like you did.
  
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Ledger
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 2:00am
I don’t like these children being sent on missions or put in the military at this young age. Science now shows that their brains are not fully developed until their early or mid twenties. People of young age take unnecessary risks with their lives and they are poor problem solvers. However they learn quickly and take orders from superiors without much questioning. I don’t think you can even rent a car until you are 25 at most airports. That is because the companies have done the math. The risks outweigh the rewards.

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- self-reliant man
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 9:56am
  I would have to disagree with you. I actually served an LDS mission at the age of 19 in the Northeastern part of Brazil. I didn’t know an ounce of Portuguese but am now fluent in Portuguese and Spanish. I learned to respect individuals and truly love them for who they are. I learned how blessed we are in the United States and what a wonderful country we live in. It taught me time management and how to handle rejection and work hard. It built a foundation for my life. it gave me the desire to serve my country in the Army and I served two tours overseas. My friends who didn’t serve missions have not changed all that much since high school. I now have a beautiful wife and two amazing sons, have a great job, and am only 29 years old. The mission experience changed my life and made me love God and country more than I could have on my own.
  
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- ImMormon
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 2:21pm
  I can say almost the exact same thing. I’m even 29 years old too. Although I’m expecting my fourth child. I own my own home. I live within my means. I serve my neighborhood and community. I feel I’m better prepared and more well equipt than most 29 year olds in this country and attribute a lot of that success to the lessons, work ethic, and service that I learned on my mission. What a blessing it was and continues to be in my life. I wouldn’t have traded the experience for anything.
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 4:51pm
  I say the same, I’m 27 with a wife and 2 beautiful kids, getting ready for graduate school. Serving the Lord for 2 years in England set the foundation for all the success I enjoy now. I feel I was a better Airman in the Air Force because of it, a better husband and better father. That doesn’t say anything bad about people who choose not to go, but it’s hard to match that experience.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 6:31pm
  Yeah JOEY8, you must really be proud of yourself lying for Jesus. What a pathetic thing to have to do. I bet you must hate yourself. You know, Jesus Christ won’t make you jump through hoops for your salvation. All you have to do is give up your Mormon (LDS, whatever) idols and turn to Him alone instead.
  
  Bon Appetite!
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 8:01pm
  @SELF and @IMMORMON
  
  I would never try and take away from you the experience you gained, or the good that it may have caused in your life. No one argues that Mormons typically exhibit good character. And no one finds fault with you for that.
  
  The problem is that your doctrines teach a different god, jesus and gospel than that of Christianity, and because of that, not only is your salvation at risk, but also everyone’s whom you may have also led astray.
  
  It’s hard to be respectful and talk about these things, but that is the essence of my feelings concerning Mormon missionaries. John 14:6Jesus said to him, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” 7If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on, you know him, and have seen him.”
  
  Unless you are worshiping that very same Jesus spoken of there, the One and Only Begotten Son of the Father, Jesus Christ, and no other, you could be in trouble come judgment day. And since Mormon doctrine definitely teaches a different jesus than that, in fact one who could easily be defined as an idol, are you prepared to answer for that?
  
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- self-reliant man
  Posted on October 10, 2012 at 5:08pm
  @ theother: You mean like this that comes straight out of the Book of Mormon in Helaman 5.
  
  O remember, remember, my sons, the words which king Benjamin spake unto his people; yea, remember that there is no other way nor means whereby man can be saved, only through the atoning blood of Jesus Christ, who shall come; yea, remember that he cometh to redeem the world.
  
  I know this is the only way. In and of myself I am nothing. But with him I can do anything. But I must turn to Him and if we love Him, we must keep His commandments.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:30am
  @SELF
  
  Wrong.
  
  Joseph Smith taught that there were certain sins so grievous that man may commit, that they will place the transgressors beyond the power of the atonement of Christ. If these offenses are committed, then the blood of Christ will not cleanse them from their sins even though they repent. Doctrines of Salvation by Joseph Fielding Smith, three volumes, 1962.
  
  The Mormon jesus only gains you a resurrection. The rest is up to you; “Plus all you can do.”
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 12:01am
  @theother
  How is what Joseph Smith taught any different from what Jesus said here:
  Mark 3:28-29 “Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation”
  Do you believe in this scripture? Jesus teaches that blaspheme against the Holy Ghost is not forgivable, Joseph Smith taught the same. Oops!
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 7:28pm
  JOEY8
  
  You have been trying for and claiming Oops for more than a few weeks now, only to find out it’s not an Oops after all. Ha ha
  
  Still can’t get past your pride I see. Pride is our worst enemy.
  
  The difference is that Joseph Smith taught that Jesus’ Blood Atonement is not good enough.
  
  Oops!
  
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dimbulbz
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:17am
Not sure why this is news to anyone outside the Church.

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- Liekiller
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:36am
  Then why did you click on the link?
  
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- ModerationIsBest
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:43am
  The way I read it is, “God changed his mind…..again! Trust me!”
  
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- Lonescrapper
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 7:17am
  Moderate, kinda like he changed his mind when he sent Jesus and then said the law of Moses if fulfilled you don’t have to live it anymore? Have you swallowed any camels today?
  
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- ksmike
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 8:43am
  Moderationisbest– It is a change in policy, not doctrine. Big difference.
  
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- TheCalvinistPastor
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 10:33am
  I agree, I think this is Glenn and Pat’s attempt of “normalizing” mormonism.
  
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- I am 'We the People
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 11:48am
  @THECALVINISTPASTOR get over your self. While I could understand a disagreement with some of the doctrine they preach, I cannot condone the hate and vitrol spewed out your mouth by a substantial and generally good church. Can your church list membership of almost 14.5 million members? I would say that this church has become normal no matter what you would have people believe.
  
  You are acting in a falacious manner, and anyone listening to you would be better off banging their head against a wall. In fact, your whole hearted attacks make me wonder if they may have something in their beliefs that rings true. I ask this because it seems that only things of truth are attacked with such relentless agression.
  
  Watch now as you or “someone else” brings thirty scriptural sources supposedly stateing mormanism is false. That will only prove my surmise.
  
  Maybe I should look a little more deeply at their doctrines? Maybe more people should as well, it may prove enlightening and we may all learn something even if some don’t join them.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 7:01pm
  I agree. Beck needs to stop selling the Mormon snake oil on his show. That’s not what I pay him to entertain me with, and if it continues, I won’t be renewing my Plus subscription. He’s not the only radio clown in the world.
  
  Has anyone noticed that the letter “B” in the Blaze logo?” It sure reminds me of a picture of Moroni I saw somewhere. I get impressions of the angel blowing a trumpet. Probably calling everyone to that great Mormon orgy in celestial heaven with all their wives.
  
  It also kind of resembles a devil with a flaming tail if you ask me. That would probably better describe Moroni, if there were such a thing as a Moroni.
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:21am
  @theother
  “That’s not what I pay him to entertain me with, and if it continues, I won’t be renewing my Plus subscription. He’s not the only radio clown in the world.”
  Why do you continue to pay the Satan worshipper. Don’t you know he probably spends 10% of what he gets to the church of Satan and baby killings? You’re going to hell with him because your money is paying for babies to be eaten as we speak. I suggest you stop paying all together and leave his website, because each time you visit this website too, more money goes to Satan’s work. You’re best bet is to lock the basement door and hide in the corner with your Bible
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 10, 2012 at 3:51pm
  JOEY8, Wouldn’t you love it if I left?
  
  No such luck. LoL
  
  Tell your Mormon buddy Beck to stop selling snake oil on his show and I’ll go away on my own. Maybe you should send him a message via your secret encoder ring.
  
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Guitarcarl
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 11:24pm
The fact that Romney is a Mormon is nothing to be ashamed of. It’s a net positive. I bet everyone on this site deep down knows that his membership speaks to his integrity and commitment. The same way that we are all stunned that Harry Reed is such a lowlife and is a member. The overwhelming percent of members of the church are pro-life, pro-work, and pro-God conservatives. The church is an amazing force for good all over the world and most of you reading this have been affected for good by some member of the church in your life at some point. Very few of you can honestly say anything from personal experience where you were ever harmed by the church or it’s members.
Mission best decision I ever made, my choice. No one forced me or anyone I ever knew. But thousands more young people will be banging doors down to go because of this change because they know how wonderful it will be for them to get the chance. Our church is the only church that does this for their youth because no other church could pull it off, their youth won’t go the way ours will.

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- Miguel Sanchez
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 11:35pm
  Let’s be careful about how we speak about Harry Reid. I certainly cannot reconcile how he can support/say the things he does. Surely he will have to answer for it, but it is not good or helpful to simply disparage him.
  
  I sincerely hope and pray that he will wake up and stand for the constitution.
  
  Meanwhile I’m amazed at what the Lord can do with 18 and 19 year olds! Truly it is the work of God.
  
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- Liekiller
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:10am
  @Miguel Sanchez I’m not sure I agree with you. It seems Harry Reid is free to say horrific things about Romney so why should he be exempt from members expressing their opinions about him? At least our opinions are based on fact (quotes from him) while his accusations about Romney’s taxes have proven to be false (he bore false witness). He then states Romney has shamed his religion. Seems he’s trying to speak for the church and its members. I think he stepped over the line and could be subjecting himself to church discipline. (Notice we haven’t heard from him since his last asinine comment.
  
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- Guitarcarl
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 3:09am
  I stand by my statements regarding Harry Reed, he is far outside of the mainstream of the church politically.
  
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- Machtyn
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:05pm
  It is written that “ye should not judge (unrighteously) lest ye be judged.” Harry Reid makes that very difficult for some of us.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 8:08pm
  There are liberal Mormons and Conservative Mormons. Take Harry Reid and Romney as striking examples. The liberal ones like Reid and JOEY8 are total jerks and will say anything to win the argument. The Conservative ones are intellectually honest with themselves, and once led to the truth, will accept it.
  
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JosephsMyth
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 11:13pm
The LDS church is not a denomination. It is it’s own distinct religion. It’s disappointing that the Blaze’s religion editor does not know this.

“I was answered that I must join none of them (Christian Churches), for they were all wrong…that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight” (Joseph Smith History 1:19).

“…orthodox Christian views of God are Pagan rather than Christian.” (Mormon Doctrine of Deity by B.H. Roberts, p.116)

“…the God whom the ‘Christians’ worship is a being of their own creation…” (Apostle Charles W. Penrose, JD 23:243)

“The Christian world, so called, are heathens as to their knowledge of the salvation of God.” (Brigham Young, JD 8:171)

“Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls (McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p.177)

“The Roman Catholic, Greek, and Protestant church, is the great corrupt, ecclesiastical power, represented by great Babylon….” (O. Pratt, Writings of an Apostle, “Divine Authenticity,” no.6, p.84).

“Both Catholics & Protestants are nothing less than the “whore of Babylon” whom the lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness.” (Pratt, The Seer, p.255)

“Evil spirits control much of the so-called religious worship in the world; for instance, the great creeds of Christendom were formulated so as to conform to their whispered promptings.” (Bruce R. Mc

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- SUNTZU
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 11:52pm
  Be all you can be-USArmy
  My Wifes menu-Take it or leave it
  I am what I am and thats all that I am-Popeye
  It’s bushes fault-Obo
  
  FREEWILL-I AM THAT I AM.
  
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- Liekiller
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:35am
  While I doubt you intended your comment as a compliment I take it as one. After all Christ was condemned because he preached what was never preached before. In fact, the term “Christian” as used to describe followers of Christ appears only three times in the New Testament. The term “Saint” as used to describe the Lord’s anointed in the Old Testament appears 39 times. In the New Testament the term “Saint” as used to describe followers of Christ appears 62 times. So I proudly call myself a Latter-Day Saint.
  
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- Guitarcarl
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 3:03am
  How does that prove the LDS church is it’s own religion? You say we got the wrong Jesus we say you got the wrong Jesus, big deal! Been going on since the day Jesus died practically.
  
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- loneindividual
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 4:37am
  I’m a former mormon gone Deist.
  
  I still think Joseph Smith was right.
  
  I bear witness…even now….that the whole of the worlds religions destroy the individual’s liberty and the family structure through despotic means and usurpations of TRUE ORIGIN..
  
  PLEASE TELL ME THAT THE ROMANS DID NOT HIJACK CHRISTIANITY AND ***COMPULSE*** THAT PERVERSION UPON ITS CITIZENS WHILE FAILING TO LIVE UP TO TRUE & CORRECT PRINCIPLES
  PLEASE TELL ME THAT THE VATICAN DID NOT COMMIT IMMENSE ATROCITIES *IN THE NAME OF GOD*
  PLEASE TELL ME THAT CATHOLICS & PROTESTANTS DID NOT ENSLAVE THEIR FELLOW MAN AND LEAD THEIR OWN AWAY WITH PRIESTCRAFT & SOPHISTRY
  
  If you defend them by praising reformists then you only claim the glory that rightfully belongs to people that RECOGNIZE THE HORRIFYING TRUTH that there has been undeniable EVIL infused within these religions FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
  
  Don’t excuse their actions by pointing out those who are more obvious in their corruption. IF YOU BELIEVE JESUS TAUGHT THE TRUTH, THEN WHY WAS IT NOT IMMEDIATELY LIVED BY?
  
  If those who failed to keep God’s commandments passed on false traditions, then wouldn’t even you suspect them of being heirs to an USURPATION?
  
  Please tell me that the whole of the worlds religions have not failed in their stewardship of God’s throne. Certain we have all fallen short of the Glory of God….but only the righteous have confessed their crimes in the time that they were alive.
  
  Go ahead & defend the guilty dead.
  
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- JosephsMyth
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 7:45am
  GuitarCarl,
  
  LDS leaders have never claimed to be just another Christian denomination, but rather the only “true Church.”
  
  Additionally, I would not make light of the differences in Christology and Soteriology between the two faiths. One faith can be correct or both can be wrong, but the two faiths can not both be correct. There is no way to reconcile how the two faiths view the Godhead or how they define the way in which man is reconciled to God.
  
  LoneIndividual,
  
  We agree that religions are man made constructs and as such are capable of all the evils that man is capable of. I am heartened to know that no religion or church can place me in right standing with God. Rather man can have an imputed righteousness provided by Christ through:.
  Sola Fide (Faith alone)
  We are judged righteous in the sight of God purely on the basis of our faith. The atoning sacrifice of Christ leads to righteousness being imputed to us as sinners through a legal declaration by God. This is often stated as Justification by faith alone.
  Sola Gratia (Grace alone)
  Salvation is the free gift of God to man. It is given by God’s Grace alone and not through any merit on the part of the Christian.
  Solus Christus (Christ alone)
  Christ is the one Mediator between God and man and our salvation is accomplished only through His death and resurrection.
  
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- TheCalvinistPastor
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 10:36am
  @Josephsmyth, lol im diggin your name, did you get that from HOTM? If so I love that show. That is the show that got me out of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. I was trying to get my girlfriend [now my wife] out of mormonism and upon learning how much the LDS church twisted not only the bible, but its own history, this caused me to look at my own religion. We are now both Christians, free from Cults
  
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- justin.blake
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 11:06am
  @ Josephsmyth…your semantic games are interesting here, as you are making the assumption that being a ‘Christian’ implies belonging to a particular group, to which ‘Mormons’ do not belong. However, would you explain to me then, how the differing theology of the over 40,000 + sects of Christianity keeps them all in the same classification as ‘Christian’, yet Mormons are not included? A simple historical analysis would paint a different picture.
  In A.D. 431 and 451, there were fundamental differences between several Christian groups, which ended with the branching off of the Assyrian and Miaphysite (Asian Orthodox) theologies from the main group of Early Christianity. Then, more major theological and ecclesiastical disagreements led to Great Schism, and the distinction of the Roman Catholic Church vs. the Eastern Orthodox. By the way, ALL claiming to be the one true church. Then we had sort of a reunion with some Roman Catholics practicing eastern rites, and western. Along comes the 16th century, with the Reformation, which gave rise to Anglicanism, Protestantism (from which most US Christian faiths derived), and Anabaptism. Then came the rise of Restorationism (Where the Mormon church falls). ALL of these arose from Early Christianity, and most argue that they are the only true church, or understand scripture better or more completely than others. No offense, but you are a prime example of the hubris endemic in many of todays ‘Christians’.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 6:51pm
  @JUSTIN, the problem for your argument is that the name Christian was coined to describe those who believe in and follow a particular person named Jesus Christ. Not just any person named Jesus Christ or any one claiming to be Jesus Christ, the the Only Begotten Son of the Father, Jesus Christ.
  
  Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses, for example, admittedly do not worship that same Jesus Christ, nor claim to believe the Creeds, which are an abomination to them.
  
  Is it reasonable then, for them to claim to be Christians?
  
  It’s because these “religions” have attempted to usurped traditional Christian beliefs, inserting their own doctrines, and while using the same words and names that Christians use, they describe entirely different people.
  
  Are ALL Mormons closet liberals? Liberals believe laws are only for dumb people, but not them.
  
  That’s the rub, in a nutshell.
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 6:59pm
  @theother
  So which Jesus are we talking about?
  The Jesus that teaches “faith without works is dead”? The Jesus that says “if ye love me, keep my commandments”? The Jesus that was resurrected with the same body that was laid in the tomb? The Jesus whose Father is greater than Himself? The Jesus whose God is our God, whose Father is our Father?
  You say you don’t believe in any of those things (which come straight from the Bible), but you still claim to be Christian? What standards are you using?
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 7:20pm
  Well, we’re certainly not talking about the Mormon jesus, who is not Jesus but an idol.
  
  I’m referring to this Jesus:
  
  16For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 17For God didn’t send his Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through him. 18He who believes in him is not judged. He who doesn’t believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God. 19This is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their works were evil. 20For everyone who does evil hates the light, and doesn’t come to the light, lest his works would be exposed. 21But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his works may be revealed, that they have been done in God.”
  
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dfwilcox
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 11:00pm
I am so happy for this change. “The work is hastening,” was the message I got. That’s very encouraging to me. I so look forward to the return (Second Coming) of the Messiah. Can you imagine how great it will be to be governed by Him who loves us perfectly?

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thegreatcarnac
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 10:56pm
I cannot say that I believe the way the Mormons believe. They seem to be a different version of Christianity that I am used to. I do, however, admire their enthusiasm.

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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 8:11pm
  Many Mormons are really nice people, but as with any group, 15% of them aren’t worth a hoot.
  
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brasasman
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 10:46pm
I strongly believe that the only way to change this world for the better is to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ, whatever denomination that it be. It has the possibility of making people treat others better than anything else out there. I say congratulations to this church for being willing to send more of these young people out in this complicated time for Mormons.

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SaturdaysWarrior76
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 10:45pm
The LDS missionaries are good boys. I have seen them out riding their bikes in summer heat that is in the 100′s, and bless their hearts they are soooooo grateful to ANYONE who will offer them a cold glass of water. A couple of times I’ve stood on my front porch with them and just talked, asked questions and asked them to pray with me about some personal issues. They didn’t hesitate to pray with me.
I was going through some rough times and the “Sister” missionaries came by my house and put paper hearts all over my door, with little encouraging messeges written on each heart: “don’t give up!” “God loves you!” “You are awesome!” it really touched me… it was just what I needed that day. They laughed and said they wanted to give me a “Heart Attack” with all the hearts on my door with loving, uplifting little messeges. :) I love those kids. Be nice to them. You don’t have to agree with their doctrines or theology. Just treat them with kindness. They are just kids really, and they are someone’s son or daughter, trying to serve the Lord as they think best.

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- riseandshine
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 11:22pm
  Nice.
  
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karzee
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 10:33pm
I was so jazzed to hear this news on Saturday. My 18 year-old son has been wishing he could leave NOW instead of when he turns 19 in March…Now he can!

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- Nehemiah6.3
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 10:54pm
  This announcement is a fantastic change. I have a daughter also who is and has prepared to go, and can go now. I am very grateful to these youth who sacrifice so much at a very important time in their life to go out into this world in order to help build family ties.
  Their great desire is to strengthen families against the onslaught of immorality, pornography, other addictions that tear families apart. God will bless them for this sacrifice, I know this because He has blessed my life and my wife’s life. We both served many years ago.
  The church has never and will never force any youth to go serve, or anyone to join the church. We believe God created us and gave us the freedom to choose for ourselves. That’s why missionaries go out to serve is to tell people of the Gospel, and give them a chance to see for themselves what The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believe and let them choose for themselves.
  
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point2ponder
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 10:28pm
Now is the time to make a stand! The time is short! We need many more able men and women who have the courage to make a stand and spread the gospel! The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the true church on the earth today! Read the Book of Mormon for yourself, pray about it, then do something about it! Your real Father, your Heavenly Father, is concerned for YOU! Make it a priority to repent, and keep the ten commandments!

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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 8:14pm
  Not all Mormon share your zeal:
  
  http://mormonisminvestigated.co.uk/
  
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point2ponder
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 10:25pm
The time is getting short. Its time to make a personal decision for each one of us whose side we will be on when we depart this life. Now is the time to make a stand, to repent, keep the commandments, and be a part of the greatest church on the earth today! Its your choice! Your real Father, your Heavenly Father, is concerned for you! The 10 commandments are not the 10 suggestions, they are just that, 10 commandments. The Church needs many more able and worthy men and women who will have the courage to stand for the right and spread the gospel to the ends of the earth! It is exciting! It is awesome! Be one of those missionaries today!

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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 10, 2012 at 3:58pm
  No thank you. I prefer to go commando.
  
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churchlady
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 10:02pm
Awesome! Those kids work hard – even when people trash them. The LDS missionaries have high standards and morals which only adds to an area. Good on them!

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blackyb
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 9:43pm
I do not think the LDS story is wise. Leave the recruiting of religions out of this for it is doing nothing to help the man running for President. Shouldn’t that be in their church bulletin?

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- riseandshine
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 9:47pm
  The Blaze likes hits…many many hits $$$
  
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- rx4nv
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 9:49pm
  just so you know, the Prophet of God does not wait for anyone. If God says do something, you do it. God is not political, therefore his Prophet is not political either.
  
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- Liekiller
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 11:57pm
  This story is listed under the “Faith” section along with other religious stories. It’s got a rightful spot on The Blaze. The announcement has nothing to do with Romney’s campaign either. The church has strict rules against intervening in anything political. (If it didn’t it would have B***h-slapped Harry Reid long ago.)
  
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soybomb315_II
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 9:18pm
i would think the LDS would keep their head low until after the election

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 10:10pm
  to avoid the ‘extra’ attention during election season (since their guy is running for president)
  
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- karzee
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 10:28pm
  The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not ENDORSE any person for any political position. It encourages their members to study and pray about candidates, then vote for those whom they feel is the person who best will accomplish what the member feels is right.
  
  Those of you who think that Romney is the LDS Church’s “candidate” and that he will push the “Mormon” agenda need to re-think those thoughts. Romney is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but not all members will vote for him. We all have our freedom to choose whom we feel is the best candidate…after all, Harry Reid is a member, also. I don’t see the media making a big deal about him being LDS.
  
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- riseandshine
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 10:35pm
  Yeah I know what you were getting at.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 10:40pm
  Oh Karzee there was a ton of self-proclaimed Mormons that buzzed around this website during the primary talking non-stop about how great Romney is. Most of them left after the primary. Maybe you are right but it’s not like Romney is just some casual Mormon, he was bishop leader for all those years and he got Vietnam war deferments so he could do his mission work. Lets not pretend like the LDS is not fully supporting him.
  
  @RISE
  Where did your comment go???
  
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- riseandshine
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 11:15pm
  Soy
  I often times have my posts removed for different reasons.
  
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- Kenszen
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:18am
  @Soy you are so ignorant it is amazing!
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:26am
  @Kenzen
  If i am ignorant about something – then you should point it out. That means you are equally lazy
  
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- Liekiller
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:39am
  The church should stop attempting to spread the gospel just because one of its members is running for president? I didn’t see the Pope remaining silent until the Kennedys were out of politics.
  
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- Individualism
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 11:49am
  what is their age of consent again? watch out i hear they take advantage of it to.
  
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- ImMormon
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 3:30pm
  @ Soy,
  
  I’m guessing the “Self Proclaimed Mormon” you were referring to was probably me. Nope, I’m still here, regardless of where you wish I was! Still a Romney supporter… even more so now than I was in the primaries. Wish Ron Paul could hold a cabinet position, but I think his fanatical groupies robbed him of it. However, I’ll still hold out hope. Until next time Soy, keep up the bashing! You are good at it!
  
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bullcrapbuster
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 9:17pm
Now this ought to bring out the haters in droves.

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- saranda
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 9:44pm
  Hater =. Anyone who challenges your truth with their own truth.
  
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- Liekiller
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:45am
  @SARANDA Is that what you called the Jews and Romans who condemned Christ to his crucifixion?
  
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jwt
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 9:17pm
Who cares??

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- Liekiller
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:13am
  You clicked on the link didn’t you?
  
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 9:16pm
If that is what they CHOOSE to do fine, just so long as it is by their own free choice.

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- bullcrapbuster
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 9:36pm
  Get Serious Snow.Who on Gods green earth can FORCE 60,000 teenagers to go (many time half way around the world) and serve a mission full time for 2 years without pay. Up by 6:30 am bed by 10 pm,no mummy’s cooking,no booze,drugs or shmokin etc etc just work at bringing souls unto Christ. They go voluntarily because they have a desire to serve the Lord. Some youth choose not to go and a small percentage either quit or are sent home for rebellion against the rules before they complete their missions but for the most part they finish their missions honorably.
  
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- riseandshine
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 9:40pm
  …and it is.
  
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- BlueJDN
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 10:34pm
  I am a Mormon, and when I was a teenager I chose not to serve a mission. Instead, I joined the Air Force. Fortunately for me, in the eyes of my church, I am no less a member in good standing than those who did serve missions. We all have that freedom of choice in my church.
  
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- sandy21957
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:36am
  Military service is viewed as just as important as a mission. I know many young men and women who are LDS who serve and serve valiantly holding on to their faith and their hard-held values. Kudos to both religious and military missions. It is a growth experience that will make amazing adults out of young men and women.
  
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- sandy21957
  Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:36am
  Military service is viewed as just as important as a mission. I know many young men and women who are LDS who serve and serve valiantly holding on to their faith and their hard-held values. Kudos to both religious and military missions. It is a growth experience that will make amazing adults out of young men and women.
  
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wisehiney
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 9:16pm
This fellow Christian sees the most admirable qualities in you good Mormon folks. This is no time for people on the side of right and good to be fighting over theological and doctrinal differences. The devil runs loose in the world. We will settle this later. Same as the differences between people of the Conservative and Libertarian political persuasions. We can bicker and die or join and rebuild.

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- HI_Don
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 9:27pm
  SUPERBLY PUT. I stand with you.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 9:36pm
  @Wise
  Easy to say ‘join now and fight later’ when we are the ones expected to compromise all of our principles without getting anything in return
  
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- neverending
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 9:38pm
  Amen to that!
  
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- wisehiney
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 9:41pm
  @soy – And it seems that it is easy you for you to side with the most evil bunch of low life’s to ever run this country. You will see what a fool you are if your oBUMMER wins.
  
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- Sgt_Rock
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 9:55pm
  I absolutely agree. But, in order to rebuild you must first put defeat what threatens you. We must all stand together, shoulder to shoulder, shields up, spears out. A time will come when we will need to make a stand, be it literal or figurative. That time will be upon us soon. The election, no matter who wins, will not change the assault upon good moral principles and spiritual / religious freedoms. It may slow it down but it will not stop. That fight will be at ground level, in the trenches. In the school board meetings, city councils and churches, especially the churches that compromise moral and gospel principles for the sake of membership.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 10:08pm
  @WISE
  wow, what a disingenuous person you are. At 9:15 you say the libertarian and conservative types need to join forces and by 9:45 you are calling libertarian types Obama supporters and fools. Bravo man. You are surely winning us to your side with that kind of logic
  
  I am voting for the best person on my ballot. May God forgive you for wasting your vote on the republican party. By the way, are you interested in fixing the election laws or are you content to yell at the wind every 4 years?
  
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- wisehiney
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 10:10pm
  SGT ROCK – There have been periods of renewal before in this country. But we are surely in a deep pit this time.
  
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- Sgt_Rock
  Posted on October 8, 2012 at 10:33pm
  Right, but we can still see the light from the exit, dim as it may be.
  
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