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President Obama Assures Audience Green Energy Is Not a ‘Socialist Plot’
At a $25,000-a-plate fundraiser in Los Angeles Sunday evening, President Barack Obama assured donors that his administration’s pricey and oftentimes risky involvement in the “green” energy is not part of a “socialist plot,” The Hill reports.
“On energy, I’m big on oil and gas, and developing clean coal technology, but I also believe that if we’re ever going to have control of our energy future, then we’ve got to invest in solar and wind and biofuels, and that it does make sense for us to double our fuel-efficiency standards on cars,” the president told an audience that included noted actor George Clooney.
“And that’s not a socialist plot for us to reduce our energy usage,” the president said to laughter, according to the transcript. “It’s the smart thing to do. It’s right for our national energy. It’s right for our economy. It’s right for the environment. [Romney] disagrees.”
Although the president’s remarks weren’t entirely specific, he was probably referring to the Romney campaign’s response to “new auto mileage rules for model years 2017-2025 that will ultimately require automakers to build cars and light trucks with a fleet-wide average of 54.5 miles-per-gallon,” The Hill notes.
The Romney campaign called these new rules “extreme,” and claimed they will “limit the choices available to American families.”
But there’s something else that should be noted: President Obama’s remarks to supporters in L.A. seem to imply Romney is anti-alternative energy. This isn’t entirely accurate.
Indeed, based on the energy plan put out by the Romney campaign, it would be more accurate to say the Romney campaign simply disagrees with how President Obama has approached it.
“[Romney] will allow the wind credit to expire, end the stimulus boondoggles, and create a level playing field on which all sources of energy can compete on their merits. Wind energy will thrive wherever it is economically competitive, and wherever private sector competitors with far more experience than the president believe the investment will produce results,” said Romney spokesman Shawn McCoy.
Based on how investments in companies such as Solyndra, Fisker, and Abound Solar have turned out, perhaps the Romney approach isn’t such a bad idea.
“The goal of my energy policy is straightforward: guarantee America the most affordable and reliable supply in the world,” Romney’s platform said.
“In place of real energy, Obama has focused on an imaginary world where government-subsidized windmills and solar panels could power the economy. This vision has failed … as president, I will unleash American innovation and productivity to make full use of our natural resources,” the platform adds.
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BasketFullOfPuppies
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:50pmIt’s all about monetary velocity. If the money slows down, then the music stops. Gotta keep it moving so that they can kick the can down the road. Otherwise, Obama is very likely to be in charge of the country when the economy collapses?
What would generate more monetary velocity than requiring the power network to completely reinvent itself and rebuild a large portion of its infrastructure?
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doomytram
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 8:13pm“And that’s not a socialist plot for us to reduce our energy usage,” (Not) Double negatives are fun….
Barrack Hussein Obozo -
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Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 9:17pmGreen energy doesn’t have to be a Socialist plot, Obama can dump so much money, $90 billion, into green energy scams he can bankrupt us without needing to call it socialist or whatever. I love the way Romney shredded Obama for the gas subsidies foolishness when Obama has spent 50 years worth of subsidies in just a couple of years. Obama will get destroyed in the next debate because he is an empty suit fool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLhzOPxcJNc
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kaydeebeau
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 10:27pmIt is just plain stupid and impractical to push windmills (that is so 19th century)
To replace the output of a small power generation station – the Commanche River Power Plant would require a swath of windmills 2 miles wide from Nashville to Chattanooga (that is 124 miles)
Now image that across the country to replace all power plants- there would be no realestate open for people or food production or anything else and let;s not even talk about the acreage required to grow crops to burn in our gas tanks as opposed to good old gasoline
STUPID – STUPID _ STUPID
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Detroit paperboy
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:51amThen use that green energy to get air force one off the ground ……….then maybe I’ll believe it ……
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BreeZee
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 5:25amit’s not a socialist plot. it’s an anti American plot
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damon_k
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 5:48amPresident Obama knows that you don’t need as much energy if the economy isn’t growing. Liberals want to take us back to 15th century windmills and 19th century trains. Read more insights at: http://smallcraftadvisorychronicles.blogspot.com/
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Bill Rowland
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 5:53amGreen energy is the future, but you don’t cut off our current system without a way to replace it. Throwing money at companies owned by big donors and setting it up so that we (the taxpayers) take it in the rectum is not a solution, it’s a way to pay off his buddies. It’s the Chicago Way.
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yougottabekidding
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 7:54amLook it’s only coincidental that all the failing green energy companies are hussains supporters that somehow are not losing any of their money.
Only the American people can do that! Lose money that is, under his watch (his words) the cost of energy WILL necessarily go up!
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poorrichard09
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 8:06amDoes 0bozo have a solar or wind powered telepromter?? :-D
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DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 9:00amIf the whole green movement is not a Socialist plot, then explain why Mikhail Gorbachev is the “Founding President of Green Cross International, which he established in 1993 in response to the 1992 Rio Earth Summit call to create a Red Cross for the environment” (http://www.gcint.org/board/mikhail-gorbachev).
After the fall of the Soviet Union, Communists and Socialists began hiding behind the “green” label, using the environment as their new wedge issue to regain power. Al Gore was very comfortable among these fellow travelers.
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naughtycal
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 9:42amSomeone should ask Obama ,What then to you call an entire industry control but the government because it can’t survive without tax subsities. And industry that being fed tax dollars by the billions,and using government regulation to force everyone into it…….
He right it’s not a socialist plot ,IT’S A COMMUNIST ONE
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wisehiney
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:48pmNo, it’s just flat out criminal robbery. We may get rid of these weasels, but they will make off with more loot than any ever in history.
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 7:15pmWhere is the Solyndra money?
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randy
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 7:42pmI’m still waiting to hear where that 2.3 trillion dollars is the fed misplaced
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The-Monk
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 7:52pm@ Randy and 2….
What about the $6T Bernanke printed up and sent to 20 banks.. 12 of which were overseas???
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The-Monk
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 8:00pmhttp://www.wealthdaily.com/articles/bernankes-missing-cash/3551
http://www.empowernetwork.com/netguru52/bernankes-6-trillion-in-missing-cash/
http://markets.financialcontent.com/stocks/news/read/21681819/$6_Trillion_of_Bernanke%27s_Missing_Cash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzvdOJx6jsI
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 8:04pmI would bet anything a LARGE portion of the Solyndra money came back to the Kenyan POS in the form of “campaign donations”. Another portion was spent on his Hawaiian estate.
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mercenary4freedom
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 8:07pmThere he goes, PROJECTING again!
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oneshiner
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:41amAgreed, Green Energy isn’t necessarily a Socialist ploy, but the way you’re attacking it, it’ll break us faster than we’ll ever get payment back from the project. When you try anything, first you have to see if it even works or if it’s even cost effective. ‘YOU obviously don’t care if it takes our Nation’s wealth, or how much you’re wasting on losing projects.’ For a college boy, you’re not very smart.
(oh yeah, I remember no one saw you at classes, you got some ‘splaining to do, huh?)
You, Mr. Prez. kept pumping money into losing projects until we’re almost bankrupt. Then, you gingerly try to blame President Bush for your own failures. Don’t you ever learn anything? Even Mitt mentioned all the projects you pumped money into which were complete failures. no comment?
My comment is, I keep wondering if you’re doing all this on purpose to break our Nation? WHY?
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mash4077
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:45pmjust the fact that he has to come out and say it means that it is a socialist plot. whatever this POS has to say is a lie.
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neverending
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:51pmThere he goes again – open mouth – let those lies flow so smoothly. What a sorry sob
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John_Free
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:56pmO is the NWO’s agent in the White House. The DARK SIDE is just like Lucifer; the Father of Lies and Lord of the Flies.
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Dan_o
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 7:51pm“Green Energy” is a myth. The socialist part is forcing the cost of other sources of energy through the rough via unelected divisions of government, such as the EPA, allowing them to drive policy while at the same time stealing from tax coffers to prop up phony companies supposedly making the mythical technology.
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starman70
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 9:39am“Green Energy” isn’t a myth. It can be achieveable. Not by being forced down our throats by a socialist governent, but by the free market, using the power of free thinking, inventive Americans, to create simple, cost effective equpment.
Americans are the most inventive people in the world. Put out a challenge: Invent a low cost, efficient green energy generation system.
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starman70
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 9:41amIf his lips are moving, he’s lying!
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steveh931
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:44pmNothing wrong with green energy, other than the federal government shouldn’t be involved in picking winners and losers while wasting billions in tax revenue. Let’s leave green energy to those willing to invest their own money, entrepreneurs, small business, and energy corporations shall we.
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 8:06pm“Green Energy” is 98% BS. When the windmill car can go 125 mph and pull a boat and trailer, let me know. Then I’ll listen.
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Exrepublisheep
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 8:25pmSTEVEH931. Agreed. Free market rules. Sadly, repubs are programmed to insult and belittle any attempt that may cause huge conglomerates to battle for profits.
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LeadNotFollow
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:44pm.
Obama, where’s the free health care you promised us over and over?
My premiums, co-pays, and the percentage of the doctor/hospital bill I must pay, went way up, so the womb to tomb welfare moochers can have freebies.
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Moozmom
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:44pmLiar liar pants on fire.
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CatB
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:42pmBull .. like all of Obama “ideas” … it is what it is .. and it isn’t about providing energy.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:45pmNot just a ‘socialist plot’ its also about cronie capitalism, failure, ‘of a necessity your energy bills will skyrocket’ and every other aspect of his communist nightmare utopian dreams.
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Gary_K
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:41pmEverything ole bath house barry does is within the communist plot.
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LeadNotFollow
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:49pm.
Donald Young, Larry Bland, and Nate Spencer.
Barry still has some explaining to do.
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:41pm“On energy, I’m big on oil and gas,…” The Kenyan sock monkey POS is 100% correct: He loves oil and gas when he sends MY money to Central and South America to support their pumping and thus their economy. His disdain is with the USA not with oil and gas.
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Chromo200
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:40pmWhat Obama doesn’t understand is that Green Energy maybe is a good thing but the way he is going about shoving down our throat is what people get angry about. Look at Spain It put it’s energy in the toilet.
I wonder what his new house is going to be powered by.
Using our tax money to float companies is what is wrong. Wasting our money is what is wrong. And before I get comments that the coal/electric/gas companies get subsidized .. I am opposed to that too.
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13th Imam
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:40pmOn one hand energy prices will necessarily skyrocket, on the other hand I’m big on gas and oil, and windmills and solar, on the other hand I will bankrupt big coal, on the other hand I think I will get on AF1 and go golfing, and on the other hand I’ve never worked harder, on the other hand Mitt is a felon, murderer. Lets give Barry a big hand and shove him out of our Whitehouse.
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capitalismrocks
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:39pmGreen energy is great on paper, just not in the realworld. Solar is severely inefficient and too costly. Wind is turning out to be problematic on safety, health and cost of maintenance. Hydrogen is the only viable future energy but its still about 15-20 years out from being small, efficient and cost effective, so while that technology is evolved, we should bring more natural gas online and supplant gasoline in all private vehicles, for $1,000 ANY car can have a converter installed with a selector switch to choose from gas/LP/CNG so then by having all private cars and also homes using CNG, then oil can be used for diesel for freight and for airline fuel, making the cost per gallon next to nothing, we could see $1.00 fuel again for the next 20 years until hydrogen comes online, CNG is much cleaner than gasoline, so that will make the greenies happy and we should also look to build 3rd gen nuclear plants to replace and add to our nuclear power needs. If we do more nuclear for electricity then we could export and sell our coal and make money from that too, all ways to pay down the debt. This is a REAL path to energy independence and low cost fuel for people and business.
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PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:53pmVery well said! I have been listening to T. Boone Pickins for quite some time and liquid natural gas stations and vehicles are the way to go. All of your other energy ideas are right on the money. We need a 20 year energy plan that makes use of our resources and keeps us secure and independent as a Nation. 0 only wants to by environmental votes, he’s transparent alright. Everything he does is transparently political for votes. He has NO common sense and does not like capitalism where everyone thrives.
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idaho1
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:36pm“[Romney] will allow the wind credit to expire, end the stimulus boondoggles, and create a level playing field on which all sources of energy can compete on their merits. Wind energy will thrive wherever it is economically competitive, and wherever private sector competitors with far more experience than the president believe the investment will produce results,” said Romney spokesman Shawn McCoy.
YES! Absolutely YES! Why is this so hard for the progressives to understand?
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pookieamos
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 2:14amprogressives don’t want to understand ! If you understood UN AGENDA21 , you know their goal is the end of progress , the end of technology , the end of automobiles , the end of electricity , the end of sinlge home ownership, the end of fishing , boating’ hiking , bike riding . Their end goal is to control the entire planet , reduce population to below 2 billion , meaning over 4 billion must die. They want to build Eco apartments and force us to live within a mile of your work zone and travel by mass transit ! These people are highly insane to out future . BY THE WAY DON’T BE convinced to take their mandatory shots, NO SHOTS !
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pookieamos
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 2:17amWhat is the blaze now sensoring GBTV viewers ?
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SIXFRIGATES
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:36pmIt is a socialist plot.. but. Other than that it’s an idiot’s plot. If people understood the amount of energy required to charge an electric car to go the same distances of a gas-powered vehicle they would give up green energy in a second. Not to mention the harm to the environment that disposing of an electric vehicle will cause…
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Wool-Free Vision
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:36pm“That’s not a socialist plot for us to reduce our energy usage, and these are not the droids you’re looking for.”
Sorry Obama Wannabe Kenobi, but your Jedi mind tricks are useless against those with eyes that see and ears that hear. Those actually ARE the very droids we were looking for, and you cannot go on about your business. In fact, you’re fired.
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Mattsbay18
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:35pmWhy does he feel the need to reassure people that it is NOT a Socialist plot?
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CatB
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:43pmBecause it is a Marxist plot …..
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2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:43pmParticularly the mindless dolts who worship at his alter: George Clooney.
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eternal_vigilance
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:34pmSo, Mr. President, where EXACTLY do you stand on Agenda 21?
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Impenitent
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:34pmObama said Romney would break wind (credits?)
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momrules
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:34pmOh please. Every thing Obama does is part of a socialist plot.
Even he is part of a socialist plot!
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LeadNotFollow
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:33pm.
Obama, just keep saying it over and over until your mindless followers believe you.
Those brainwashing techniques have been working pretty well for you.
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JaketheDog
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:32pmKind of like we were assured Obamacare would not pay for abortions?
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RepubliCorp
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:32pmas CA pays $5 a gal. Beyond laughable
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702TruthSeeker
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:32pmwhat’s the ROI mr president? solyndra-like? gm-like? fannie and freddie like? you don’t have too good of a track record with investments, when that happens to a ceo, they usually get fired
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chips1
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:31pmThere is the proof we need. Obama denies it. Can’t get any better than a confession.
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RightUnite
Posted on October 8, 2012 at 6:30pmWho does he think he’s kidding??
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GumRock
Posted on October 9, 2012 at 12:03amIt only works on the ones that drank the Kool-Aid
Obviously, you my friend are Not sporting a Blue Mustache.
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