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Liberal Christian Group Begs AP to Stop Using ‘Illegal Immigrant’: A ‘Dehumanizing Term’ That ‘Robs People of Their Dignity’

Oct. 10, 2012 12:30pm

Sojourners, Pastor Jim Wallis’ progressive organization and media outlet, is circulating a petition to encourage supporters to convince The Associated Press, a news-wire service, to stop using the supposedly-dehumanizing term “illegal.”

This morning, an e-mail was distributed to supporters, blaming the media, in part, for the nation’s failure to “change the national debate on immigration.” At the center of Sojourners’ claims is that the media unfairly label undocumented immigrants as “illegal.”

From a denotative standpoint, though, this is the legal term for individuals who are not natural-born citizens and who have failed to go through the proper channels to enter and remain in the U.S. legally. Even Dictionary.com defines “illegal alien” as “a foreigner who has entered or resides in a country unlawfully or without the country’s authorization.”

But Sojourners maintains that the word “illegal” is a “dehumanizing term” that “robs people of their dignity.”

Sojourners Begs AP to Stop Using Term Illegal Immigrant | Dehumanizing

Jim Wallis (Photo Credit: FILE)

In an e-mail to supporters, Wallis’ group also maintains that when outlets like the AP use the term, it “prejudices readers against the needs and concerns of our immigrant brothers and sisters.” Because reporters and journalists generally rely upon the “Associated Press Stylebook” to guide them when it comes to crafting stories, Sojourners is particularly frustrated with the fact that the book tells reporters “illegal immigrant” is still acceptable.

On a web page setup to allow supporters to e-mail David Minthorn, the AP’s deputy standards editor and co-editor of the stylebook, with their concerns, the outlet presents the following letter for supporters to sign:

Dear Mr. Minthorn,

As people of faith we believe that each person is created in God’s image, and the dignity of all people must be protected. Language is a powerful tool that is never neutral. Descriptions shape perceptions. Words are used to persuade.

The use of the term “illegal immigrant” to describe immigrants living in the U.S. without documentation is degrading and inappropriate. The label assigns a status to the whole individual, rather than speaking to a particular aspect of their situation.

Given the authority and influence of the AP Stylebook in setting standards for media outlets across the country and around the world, I am writing to urge the AP to stop using the term “illegal immigrant” to describe undocumented immigrants and revise the guidance offered by the AP Stylebook when it comes to this term.

Sincerely,
[Your Name]
[Your Address]
[City, State ZIP]

Sojourners Begs AP to Stop Using Term Illegal Immigrant | Dehumanizing

A local illegal immigrant fills out an application for the "deferred action" program at the Catholic Charities of Santa Clara County headquarters in San Jose, Calif. on Wednesday, Aug. 15, 2012. (Photo Credit: AP)

In making its appeal to encourage a softer tone when it comes to undocumented individuals, Sojourners invoked scripture in its letter urging people to participate in the the e-mail blitz. The outlet highlighted Proverbs 15:1, which reads, “A soft answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.”

The e-mail concludes by calling for the “controversial” word to be removed from the AP’s media manifesto so that “a more compassionate and accurate conversation about immigration” can take form. In September, journalist Jose Antonio Vargas, himself an illegal immigrant, delivered a similar challenge to the AP.

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  • Rickfromillinois
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 1:01pm

    So using the term “illegal” is dehumanizing and we shouldn’t use it because it hurts their feelings? Instead of us stop using the term how about them stop coming her ILLEGALLY. They are ILLEGAL ALIENS. Good grief, what’s next, are we going to stop calling rapists, rapists, because it hurts their feelings? Should we cal them purveyors of non-mutual agreed upon sexual encounters? What a bunch of idiots.

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    • cessna152
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 1:28pm

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    • DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 1:32pm

      Some days I wish we could say “Illegal liberal”.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 1:42pm

      They’re ILLEGAL ALIENS. It’s factual, legal and historical. Even the Bible (KJV) uses the word alien.

      ALIEN, – A foreigner; one born in, or belonging to, another country; one who is not a citizen, or entitled to the privileges of a citizen.

      “Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens.” Lam. 5:2

      “Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.” Isa. 1:7

      “Then ye shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their pictures, and destroy all their molten images, and quite pluck down all their high places: And ye shall dispossess the inhabitants of the land, and dwell therein: for I have given you the land to possess it. And ye shall divide the land by lot for an inheritance among your families: and to the more ye shall give the more inheritance, and to the fewer ye shall give the less inheritance: every man’s inheritance shall be in the place where his lot falleth; according to the tribes of your fathers ye shall inherit. But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you; then it shall come to pass, that those which ye let remain of them shall be ****** in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell. Moreover it shall come to pass, that I shall do unto you, as I thought to do unto them.” Num. 33:52-56

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    • blanco5
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 1:49pm

      Ditto CESSNA152!!!!

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    • floridareader
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 1:49pm

      Would he like “outlaw immigrants”?

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    • johnjamison
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 2:13pm

      Someone should ask Wallis if he against satan worshipping.
      Naturally he’ll say yes
      Then ask him if he would vote for a candidate that worshipped satan
      naturally he’ll say no
      Then ask him why?
      To which he’ld respond I don’t want to support a satan worshipper
      Then ask him does he support the murder of an unborn child.
      That should affectively scatter those who are truely Christian from his parish with the quickness

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    • naughtycal
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 2:35pm

      Some ask Wallis is he’ll stop using the term liberal Christian because it is SACRELIGIOUS.+
      No one can be Christian can support abortion,support herion use,support the ability of other to wallow in their hedonistic life styles,or remove God from their platform.
      Wallis crawl back under the rock from which you scurried.

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    • sillyfreshness
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 2:53pm

      They are right. I prefer ILLEGAL ALIEN. Illegal immigrant is too polite.

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    • Balpit
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 4:20pm

      What next?

      Slob = Hygienically Disinclined
      Sloth = Motivation Depleted
      Glutton = Compulsive Consumer

      Criminal = Socially Maligned
      Cat Burglar = Intrusive Wealth Redistributor
      Mugger = Confrontational Wealth Redistributor
      Poacher = Unauthorized Wildlife Population Reducer
      Vandal = Unrequested Property Artist
      ****** = Employed Pleasurer

      For the more serious criminals…er, socially maligned individuals:
      Child Molester = Juvenile Innocence Remover
      Rapist = Unwanted Sexual Advancer
      Child Abuser = Hyper-Aggressor Towards Underage Individuals
      Murderer = Life Ending Serviceman
      Serial Killer = Life Ending Addict

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    • rp454
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 5:38pm

      Drug dealers are now unlicensed pharmacists.
      Bank robberies are now non-customer withdrawals.
      Burglars are merely address challenged.

      Which part of illegal do these people not understand?

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    • shizam
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 5:42pm

      This is an example of “information dominance” – to suppress our awareness to a potential threat – shaping and dominating the perception. Another example: the “spontaneous” response to the You Tube Video or as Obama stated, the “natural response” (much more watered-down word version).
      Calling it “violent extremism” would be insensitive to Muslims. Information dominance is important and that’s why we see the disappearance of words like terrorist, jihad, Muslim, Islam and of course, illegal. The MSM and many of our leaders have to be self-sensored.

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    • Rampart
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 6:49pm

      Perhaps we should start calling rapists “Sojourners” and illegal aliens “Obamacrats…”

      Be careful what you wish for, “Reverend” Jimmy…

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      Rampart  
    • dmerwin
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 8:34pm

      Apparently, the truth is too much for them to deal with. They ARE illegal. End of story. Sorry if that hurts your feelings. I think non-competitive soccer may be the sport for you. I will personally grant you a participation certificate.

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    • Coonshine
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:29pm

      I think “*******” is better than illegal alien. Easier to say and has much more meaning…..

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  • 70S_KIDS_FIGHTING_SOCIALISM
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:59pm

    Liberal Christian groups are not christian but follow exactly Satans teachings. Jesus is the Word of God and ALL Scripture is useful for… They follow the exact opposite. Someone tell me what sins liberals need forgiveness from. Not LYING They follow rules for radicals as their bible first and always. Not infidelity including homosexuality. Not putting worshiping idols or putting anything above God. Liberal Christian groups are there for ONE purpose only.
    Liberal Christian groups are doing Satan’s bidding by trying to destroy the True Church and its teachings (the Truth which is Jesus himself) the body of Christ by offering or Bride of Christ by offering up a harlot (whore) for the true Church and teachings of Jesus Christ.

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    • mydh12
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 1:11pm

      Jim Wallis is the equivalent of Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. His only purpose is to get votes for liberal Democrats. As long as he serves that purpose, the Dems and the liberal media will continue to give him a platform to speak.

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  • Lee_in_PA
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:59pm

    I am in favor of DEFIANT TRESPASSER myself. They know it is illegal to enter the US without a passaport, etc. So they are defiant to the laws of the US. That takes care of illegal…even though they still are here illegally. How about we call them sick birds?

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 1:05pm

      I choose “Trespassing Foreign National” — or “Trefnat” or “Treffen” for short.

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    • oldguy77
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 1:17pm

      I always liked the term”wet back”.Its not derogatory and it explains how they got here. Another term”pediphile”why not child lover?it sounds so much better.Or how about”necrophilia”lets change that one also.After all every body loves the dead,right?

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 1:34pm

      @ Oldguy77
      I heard that pedophiles want to follow the lead of homosexuals in the name game. Just as homosexuals have usurped the word “gay”, pedophiles would prefer the term “friendly.”

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 1:45pm

      When they don’t want to assimilate, and, when they have their own TV channels, radio stations, newspapers, school organizations, groceries, clothing stores, lawyers, courts, interpreters for everything, and other racist designated “Latino” or “Hispanic” things here in the USA, they’re NOT immigrants, they’re INVADERS. Wake up America.

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 3:21pm

      @ Colt — very good point. You make a good argument for states to invoke Art. IV, Sec. 4 of the U.S. Constitution.
      “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, AND SHALL PROTECT EACH OF THEM AGAINST INVASION” (emphasis in caps. added).

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    • Granny58
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 5:58pm

      @Colt1860 – Excellent point and a refreshing realization.

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    • Partygirl
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 7:34pm

      Jim Wallis of Sojourners? Ha! Well they are illegals. Why not just call them criminals then that is what they are. They have broken the law. Hurt their feelings? Too bad. I say just call them criminals.

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  • TEIN
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:57pm

    Pastor Jim Wallis…Legal; upholding, respecting, and obeying the law of the land…illegal; breaking, rebelling, disobeying the law of the land, hence criminal…. How else can you slice it?? If a person breaks into my house to do what ever they want, do I have to call the break-in has an “uninvited entity” as not to offend the criminal who entered my home illegally?? Such fools..trying to redefine common…

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  • NoMoreHopeium
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:57pm

    I am SOOOOO sick of politicall correctness – IT IS WHAT IT IS and calling it something else doesn’t make it “go away” – they are ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Send them home and they can be CITIZENS!!!!

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  • Steel
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:55pm

    I freely admit that I’m a prejudiced reader on this subject. An illegal alien is indeed, contrary to left wing loon liberals, a consummately appropriate term to describe this group of individuals. They are here illegally and they are not by any measure citizens of this country. Hence, they are “illegal aliens”. By liberal thinking, some creature from outer space should also not be labeled and “alien” because it would take away their self respect. How nuts can you get? Oh, just wait a minute for some other liberal to speak out loud. What part of “illegal” or “alien” don’t you lefty loon wing nuts understand? There’s simply no other way to adequately or correctly define and name them – illegal alines. It is what it is!

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  • dickdastardly
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:51pm

    There is no such thing as a liberal Christian..it’s like the term military intelligence…a clear oxymoron. Someone had to say it…so there!

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  • Indiana Patriot
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:49pm

    I’m partial to the term “Criminal Trespassers” myself. However Just because someone is ‘offended’ by the term illegal, doesn’t for one second, mean that it should stop being used.

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    • THERAPTURCOMES
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:54pm

      The problem lies in the term ‘LIBERAL CHRISTIAN’ That is an oxymoron and there is no such thing as liberal Christian

      Real Christians should be spreading the gospel and preparing AFTER RAPTURE PACKETS for the left behind world

      http://youtu.be/ahEVxIzlxwo

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 1:03pm

      Sorry, Indiana Patriot, but the term “Criminal Trespassers” is confusing. It applies to U.S. citizens on property that they have no right to be on as well as foreign nationals illegally in America. The term “illegal immigrant” is also inaccurate — as it includes those here illegally who have no intention of “immigrating” in any sense (it includes those simply here “on business” — including the drug trade and terror missions). May I suggest “Trespassing Foreign Nationals”? It is accurate. It is all-inclusive. It cannot be confused with other situations. It IS sort of long, but could be abbreviated in conversation: “Treffen” or “Trefnat”, for example.

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  • Leader1776
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:49pm

    Once BHO is out of office we will finally be rid of Wallis and his corrupt, self-styled, pseudo-religion?

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  • The land I love
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:49pm

    Illegal immigration is a huge problem. These people should and can have rights if they do it the LEGAL way. The countries they are running away from should be blamed for any dignity being lost. We give everyone equal rights but when you are illegal you don’t get those rights, simply because they are ILLEGAL and they IMMIGRATED from countries that have abandoned, murdered, and exploited them, make any sense Mr. Preacher?

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    • randy
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:55pm

      It would not be A ‘DEHUMANIZING TERM’ THAT ‘ROBS PEOPLE OF THEIR DIGNITY’
      if they just left the country, stopped in their immigration office to fill out the proper paperwork, now would it?

      Until then, get used to the term ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT!
      I personally like Illegal Alien!

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  • bgotts27
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:46pm

    It’s acceptable for them to come here illegally and rob us of our national resources, but it’s not okay to call them illegal immigrants.

    Call them outlaws, then.

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  • kiwiburgerwithcheese
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:46pm

    Jim Wallis is misleading the public.
    He is trying to make Americans think that illegal immigrants are refugees. They are not.
    America already has laws in place to deal with true refugees. Illegal immigrants are not refugees.

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    • larmijo
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 2:50pm

      Exactly correct! Those crossing our southern border typically have jobs in their home country, have some money, and usually at least an 8th grade education. They are not in a war-torn country, or starving, or persecuted. Most read and write in their home language. We need to realize that greed is the motivating factor, not self-preservation or the need to feed their children. The U.S. offers them superior healthcare for chronic or advanced disease, better and free schools, instant citizenship for children born here, and work that is paid in U.S. dollars, which is worth more in their home country. If we as a country stopped all of these perks, the “walk-over-the-border” immigration would dry up almost instantly.

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  • Exidor
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:45pm

    Seems pretty clear to me. You immigrate here illegally. You are an Illegal Immigrant.

    And they left their dignity behind when they committed a crime entering the US illegally.

    What a crock…..

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  • chips1
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:44pm

    I’m offended by the word “banana”. I demand satisfaction!!!!!

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  • coyote1hell
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:42pm

    Fine, We will call them….Illegal Felon Immigrants

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  • normalmom
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:42pm

    Christian I don’t think so. It is not a dehumanizing statement, fact is it is the truth. If you don’t like it become a legal citizen or leave.

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  • Wool-Free Vision
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:40pm

    “Liberal Christian” is an oxymoron. Not because Christians are too strait-laced, but because the modern definition of “liberal” reflects a belief system which denies and disparages even the most basic tenets of Christianity.

    Liberals lie. Liberals cheat. Liberals believes that abortion is not murder. Liberals believe that the end justifies the means. Liberals deny and denounce God at every opportunity.

    Self-proclaimed “Christians” who adhere to the liberal ideology are being dishonest even with themselves and should do some serious soul-searching before they declare that they support liberal positions while also claiming they represent Christ.

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    • ThePostman
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:47pm

      If you didn’t say it, I was going to. Kudos.

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    • momrules
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 1:24pm

      Wool-Free Vision……….I agree. We were warned about men like Wallis, proclaiming to be men of God but the exact opposite. They will fool the ones that do not have a true relationship with Jesus Christ. They will fool the ones that embrace tolerance instead of real Christian values.

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    • JRGJR
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 2:12pm

      Romans chapter one talks about people like this pastor.

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  • red_white_blue2
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:38pm

    OMG–Please change it, feel free. I’m still going to call them Illegal…sorry Jim–sucks to be you!

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  • friedwatermellon
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:36pm

    What dignity??? If the Illegals had even an ounce of dignity and self respect they would come in LEGALLY.

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    • oldguy49
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:42pm

      amen

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    • wvernon1981
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:51pm

      Which is more moral? Bringing your family out of abject poverty by moving across the border illegally, working hard, and providing a living or keeping your family in poverty when you have the means to escape it because you decide you’re going to obey American law. I fully support the immigrants’ choice to move here but I also fully support our right to enforce our laws.

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    • 00100111
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 3:24pm

      Vernon, everyone understands their desire to make their lives better and to have better opportunities. We welcome anyone willing to come here the right way and do the right thing while they’re here. Desperation is not an excuse to break our laws. Personally I’d like to see a facility like Ellis Island opened up again, but a bit more streamlined. Yes, our processes currently are slow and complex, but until they’re changed it is what it is. Being here illegally is being here illegally. If they don’t like how it feels, they shouldn’t do it.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 5:13pm

      The US has absolutely NO obligation to accept everyone and anyone into their borders. Aliens do not have a right to be accepted into the US. Naturalization and immigration is a PRIVILEGE, not an entitlement. No man can illegally cross an international border. No one today can enter illegally into Guatemala, Mexico, China, or any country, fortify themselves there, demand rights and benefits, and expect to be treated like a Citizen of that country, especially if not even GRANTED permission to be there. While immigration may be necessary for a nation to thrive internationally, it is not to be employed at the expense of that nation’s sovereignty and independence. EVERY single politician in office took an Oath to uphold and support the Constitution of the US. The preamble states, “We the People, of the United States”. For our politicians to assist, aid, and make laws for the benefit and in the interest of foreigners (especially those here illegally), over their own People (US Citizens), is treason.

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  • SquidVetOhio
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:36pm

    Hey Wallis, quite calling yourself “Christian” you god-forsaken heretic! It robs real Christians of our dignity.

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    • momrules
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 2:06pm

      Since we were warned about men like Wallis someone like him only increases my faith. He is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

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  • Ironeagle
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:36pm

    OK lets use a more accurate phrase: illegal criminal alien invaders

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  • yougottabekidding
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:36pm

    You are here against the law!
    You are invading my country
    You are what you are!
    Dont like it T. S. get out!

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  • Popp40
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:34pm

    Fine stop using “illegal immigrant” and call them what they truly are…..Criminals or Felons!

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    • naughtycal
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:38pm

      You can’t be liberal and Christian……Fact is the liberal actually booed having God has part of their platform…..there’s video to prove. So I argue all liberal who claim to be Christian and stay in the liberal party are nothing more than liberal plants trying garner support from actual Christians by posing as one.
      The perverbal false prophets the bible speaks of.

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    • Popp40
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:50pm

      @Naughtycal not only did they deny God….they denied God 3 times which is a very important number and real Christians know the relevance of the # 3!

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    • majahn
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 3:59pm

      Just call them, Freeloading dirt people. Honest as can be.

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  • Obama Snake Oil Co
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:33pm

    Now thats an oxymoron…christian and liberal in the same statement?

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:43pm

      Sorry, I just made the exact same point before seeing your comment. When I started writing mine, there were still 0 comments on this story.

      Nice that we agree. I have noticed that your comments very often align with my own opinions quite nicely.

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    • PAUL_THE_APOSTLE
      Posted on October 10, 2012 at 1:44pm

      Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Frodo RinosBane
    Posted on October 10, 2012 at 12:32pm

    How about Freeloaders?

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