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Ryan and Biden at Odds on Almost Everything in Testy Debate: ‘That Is a Bunch of Malarkey’

Oct. 11, 2012 10:33pm Jason Howerton

U.S. Vice President Joe Biden (L) and Republican vice presidential candidate U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) (R) participate in the vice presidential debate at Centre College October 11, 2012 in Danville, Kentucky. This is the second of four debates during the presidential election season and the only debate between the vice presidential candidates before the closely-contested election November 6. (Credit: Getty Images)

There were testy exchanges throughout the first and only vice presidential debate, with Republican Paul Ryan citing the death of the U.S. ambassador in Libya and the ongoing turmoil in the Middle East as evidence Thursday night that the administration’s foreign policy is failing. Vice President Joe Biden called Ryan’s claims “a bunch of malarkey.”

“Not a single thing he said is accurate,” Biden said in the opening moments of the debate.

With a little less than four weeks left before the election, both men seemed primed for a showdown seemingly rebutting each other on every point.

Ryan argued the current administration had provided insufficient security to Ambassador Chris Stevens, who was killed, along with three other Americans, in a terrorist attack at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi on Sept. 11

However, Biden sought to blame Republicans, saying the budget that Ryan authored as chairman of the House Budget Committee cut the Obama administration’s funding request for diplomatic security by $300 million.

Despite multiple reports that indicate there were requests for additional security at the U.S. Consulate in Libya, Biden claimed the Obama administration wasn’t “told they wanted more security.” The statement appears to be at odds with the official record.

Many times throughout the debate, Biden could be seen smiling sarcastically and shaking his head as Ryan spoke. Both men also interrupted each other a number of times, though Biden was a more frequent offender.

“I know you’re under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground, but I think people would be better served if we don’t interrupt each other,” Ryan said. But he didn’t exactly stick to his word.

The two men also tangled over the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, administration steps to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon and relations with Israel, an area where Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney frequently accuses President Barack Obama of letting down the United States’ closest ally in the Middle East.

Biden, 69, repeatedly accused Ryan of misstating the facts. “This is a bunch of stuff,” he erupted at one point.

But the 42-year-old Ryan didn’t back down. Iran is “four years closer” to having a nuclear weapon after Obama’s first term, he argued.

“You think Iran is not brazen? Look at what they are doing,” Ryan added.

U.S. Vice President Joe Biden (L) and Republican vice presidential candidate U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) (R) participate in the vice presidential debate as moderator Martha Raddatz looks on at Centre College October 11, 2012 in Danville, Kentucky. This is the second of four debates during the presidential election season and the only debate between the vice presidential candidates before the closely-contested election November 6. (Credit: Getty Images)

U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) speaks during the vice presidential debate at Centre College October 11, 2012 in Danville, Kentucky. This is the second of four debates during the presidential election season and the only debate between the vice presidential candidates before the closely-contested election November 6. (Credit: Getty Images)

U.S. Vice President Joe Biden (L) and Republican vice presidential candidate U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) participate in the vice presidential debate at Centre College on October 11, 2012 in Danville, Kentucky. This is the second of four debates during the presidential election season and the only debate between the vice presidential candidates before the closely-contested election November 6. (Credit: Getty Images)

The debate took place a little more than a week after Obama and Romney met in the first of their three debates – an encounter that has fueled a Republican comeback in the polls.

Following Obama’s poor performance in that debate, Democrats were relying on Biden to provide a much needed spark, which he did with a lively performance.

Biden also brought up Romney’s infamous “47 percent” remarks, the percentage of Americans he said pay no federal income tax and are reliant on entitlement programs.

In response, Ryan quipped:”The vice president knows, sometimes the words don’t come out of your mouth the right way.” The joke was obviously in reference to Biden’s tendency to commit gaffes.

“It’s about time they take responsibility” instead of signing pledges to avoid raising taxes, Biden said of Romney, Ryan and the Republicans.

But Ryan quickly recited the dreary economic statistics – 23 million are struggling to work, he said, and 15 percent of the country is living in poverty. “This is not what a real recovery looks like.”

Asked directly when they could reduce unemployment to 6 percent from the current 7.8 percent, neither nominee provided a straight answer.

Instead, Biden repeated the president’s contention that the nation is moving in the right direction, while Ryan repeated the Republican view that economic struggle persists even though Democrats had control of both houses of Congress during the first two years of Obama’s term.

“Where are the 5 million green jobs” we were told would be created? Ryan said to Biden.

For Biden, Thursday night’s debate was his first since the 2008 campaign, when he shared a stage with Sarah Palin, then John McCain’s running mate.

Sparring over tax policy, Ryan argued the Obama administration wrongly thinks it can tax the rich to pay for their out-of-control spending.

“Watch out middle class, the tax bill is coming to you,” Ryan said.

One of the last topics that the two nominees tackled was the contentious issue of abortion.

Ryan said he personally believes that life begins at conception but he respects the people who disagree with him. He said a Romney administration would oppose abortion except in the cases of rape, incest and danger to the mother.

Biden said his faith requires that he personally be against abortion because that is the position of the church. However, he added that he refuses to enforce his values on the entire American population, saying abortion is a decision to be made between a woman and her doctor.

“The fact is that we are in a situation where we inherited a God awful circumstance,” Biden said in his closing statement. He slammed Republicans’ “attitude” toward the American people, again bringing up the “47 percent” comments and saying people jsut need a “fair shot.”

“We face a very big choice. What kind of country are we going to be? What kind of country are we going to leave our kids?” Ryan said in his closing statements.

“This is not what a real recovery looks like. You deserve better,” he added, saying Romney is “uniquely qualified” to be president.

Martha Raddatz of ABC News had moderator duties.

Watch a portion of the vice presidential debate below:

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The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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Comments (157)

ANativeSon
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:57pm
Biden was aggressive, intimidating and controlled the debate with the help of a complicit moderator.

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- rickc34
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:08pm
  Biden was rude and loud like the drunk in the corner. And if Obama and Biden continue with the same failed policies then we are in trouble.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:09pm
  Biden killed Ryan regarding the republican penchant for war in the middle east. The rest of the debate was a wash
  
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- TyrannyNoMore
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:15pm
  Aggressive ? Yes, he was that. …… Intimidating ? C’mon….. are you kidding me? He behaved like a spoiled 5 year old who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He came off looking like a condescending buffoon with high blood pressure. His self-righteous anger cost him the debate in my opinion. The scowl on his face grew more severe as time elapsed. I found this to be even more of a turn off than his laughing his way through the Iran issue. Just like Gore, with his contemptuous sighing, Crazy Uncle Joe blew it big time.
  
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- isobamamadd
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:16pm
  Good thing Obama /Gores Carbon Tax hasn’t passed congress , Joe would be Bankrupt!!
  
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- Tigress1
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:18pm
  If Biden’s performance tonight was an example of how the Obama administration runs things, then no wonder they couldn’t get anything done right! WHO could work with THAT???
  
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- Tigress1
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:23pm
  @Soybomb315-II, Yeah, right. That’s why Obama is sending in troops to Jordan. What does that make this? Obama’s 4 war now?
  
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- Tigress1
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:30pm
  correction: 4th war now
  
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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 12:05am
  @TYRANNYNOMORE
  Not only that, but with a moderator with a conflict of interest, who lost control early on, only helped Biden as he talked over, mocked, smirked, laughed like a spoiled child at the dinner table.
  Martha allowed Biden WAY too much time and let him ramble on, while she kept cutting Ryan short.
  She should never be allowed anywhere near a debate again.
  
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- Bluebonnet
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 12:45am
  Good Lord, what a mean spirited, condescending piece of crapola that Jack-Donkey Biden is.
  If he had wiped the smirk off his face, it could have been interesting. But NO, he had to let everyone know he was no dull, uninteresting obama.
  
  There’s no way I’d ever vote for Biden/obama for fear if something ever happened to obama we’d be saddled with that smirking A-hole Biden who didn’t seem to take anything seriously. How dare him act like that while so many are hurting, out of work with the worst economy ever, and the threat of a Nuclear war with a mad man running Iran. Not to mention the poor dead guys in Libya they couldn’t bother to get their stories straight on, so obama could go on to Nevada to raise more blood money.
  
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- PATTY HENRY
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 4:28am
  CNN: RYAN 48 vs Biden 46; MSNBC RYAN 56 vs Biden 36
  
  OBNOXIOUS BIDEN…the Character of a worm, going to get caught in major LIES. But most concerning is his lies/attitude towards what happened in LIBYA !!
  
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- damon_k
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 5:32am
  Hopefully the electorate is educated enough to see through Biden’s bullying to the fact that this administration has done more harm than any in modern history. Read political commentary at: http://smallcraftadvisorychronicles.blogspot.com/
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 7:31am
  Ryan looked like a serious man. Biden looked like the drunken fool he is.
  
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- mersey
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 7:42am
  Only a progressive would think petulance is a quality a VP should display at a debate. This is what the DNC gives us with 6 days of debate preparation? No wonder we still have 23 million unemployed Americans.
  
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- Strait Talk Express
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 7:42am
  I did not watch this debate yet, but I heard it all on CSPAN radio, and the democrat speaker was better at saying things that seem right, the other talker was weak and seemed to be reading insted of telling answers so much as the other.
  
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leosmom
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:56pm
Biden is foul…I jsut have to say, this whole administration is makign me sick because of the Benghazi incident and the 4 deaths of Americans. If lies and deception would have happened during the Bush administration, the MSM would have already made sure that there was an impeachment. I really believe this. Why hasn’t there been more accountability with this administration? We truly need a better leader! Also…look at the crazy guy that Obama has taken on for his VP…people..he would be this far away from hitting the button on a nuclear bomb! Seriously…next in line from presidency…that is terrifying to me!

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- OhSuzieQ
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:01pm
  Omg! me too Leo.
  
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- getalong
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:17pm
  Biden – the gift that keeps on giving to the Republicans. He was rude and condescending. He was a perfect example of how democrats in the house and senate go about “finding compromise”. It is either their way or you are crazy and laughed at. Thanks Joe for the shining example of how Obama and YOU try to work with the Republicans. This attitude is why nothing gets down in Congress and everything is stalled in senate. After this debate, I believe more than ever that Romeny will be a much better leader and do more to bring us together as a country instead of demonizing the other side.
  
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- Moonbat
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:51pm
  Hi, Leo’s Mom.
  
  With all due respect, I’d like to remind you that the Bush administration didn’t have a great record with regard to facts. Remember how we were sure to find WMD in Iraq? Remember how the war wasn’t going to cost anything? Remember how there were just a “few dead-enders” holding out? Yeah. Believe me — if there was any possible excuse to impeach the President, y’all would have done it by now.
  
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- moreoilplease
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 12:21am
  Moonbat
  Do you remember that most of the worlds leaders and there respective intelligence agencies all agreed Iraq had WMD’s? Do you remember congress voting to authorize war? Do you remember even Hilary Clinton said they had WMD’s?
  Do you remember Obama seeking congressional approval for military action in Libya? How about congressional approval for boots on the ground in 70 plus countries? Do you try to forget the Presidential kill list? Do you remember the NDAA of 2012 authorizing indefinite detention of American citizens, here or abroad? Do you remember the President authorizing drone’s in the US? Any of this ringing a bell?
  
  I love the logic you use: Bush did bad things so you should give Obama a pass.
  
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- Moonbat
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 12:40am
  Hi, Moreoil –
  
  The difference is that we didn’t commit troops to Libya, while Iraq cost thousands of American lives (and trillions of dollars). I’m no fan of kill lists either, but there’s no question which party has committed more of our troops to more dubious causes. Leo’s Mom’s charge of a double standard is
  ridiculous.
  
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- moreoilplease
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 2:58am
  Moonie
  Yes, Democrats have committed more troops to wars than republicans. Historical fact. Cost of warfare has no baring on the constitutional requirement for congress to authorize war. We had boots on the ground and bombs dropping. And the cost of both wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is 1.3 trillion and counting. Not “trillions”. About a third of that has occurred under Obama in less than 4 years.
  
  Barrack Obama: “I ended the war in Iraq”. Uh, no. That is what we call A LIE. A big stinking bold face lie. That deal was inked in 2007…under President Bush.
  
  Barrack Obama: “What we know is…uh, that a crude video insulting the prophet Mohamed…uh, was used to whip up crowds that attacked our embassy”. Again, LIE or dangerous incompetence. I would guess, dangerous incompetence. He would rather you think him a liar than stupid. And to add insult to, in this case, murder of our ambassador, we have the sheer stupidity to apologize for something that had nothing to do with the organized attacks on our embassies. A clear sign of weakness that will probably be paid for with more lives.
  
  Never have I witnessed a President that could lie like Obama does. Almost every speech he gives, he lies. And by “lie” I mean quarter lies, half lies, misrepresentation and just complete fabrication.
  
  So spare me your absurd comparisons to Bush and crazy defense of Obama. On his worst day Bush was not as incompetent as Obama. We will be dealing with Obama’s mess for years to come.
  
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One Match Left
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:55pm
ok so they say Ryan/Romney have no plan. But what is OBama/Biden plan? what is going to change? except for the worse (worst) and I like Ryan’s final statement. Biden throws in his horrible fate of being handed wreckage and Ryan’s was not “it might take us a while with this disaster” but We will take responsibility and NOT blame others. NICE

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ConservaTEA
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:54pm
To me, Biden came off as VERY un-professional by laughing almost every time Ryan was speaking. He may not agree with his position but the TOPICS were dead serious this made him look badly.

I do think Biden was more effective and convincing in his lying in this debate compared to his boss in the last debate, so I predict the media will be in a “Joe mopped the floor. . .” frenzy in the days to come. If you know the issues or are even moderately “informed”, you know that most of what Biden said was “Malarkey”, but the democrats are counting on us being dumb and not knowing anything but what MSNBC says, so. . . I do think that the stupid among us will think Biden did great (mostly the media).

Ryan came prepared, confident and full of genuine conviction and it showed. I think Ryan won convincingly.

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- Lachoneous
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 1:04pm
  The debate just shows the glaring differences in tactics between left and the right. The right tends to bring facts and figures, in the hope of showing people the failures of their opponent. The left brings “impassioned” talking points in hopes of making the whole contest emotional and not factual, (“Go with your gut, people.”) It is the same reason the Tea Party and Occupy people are polar opposites.
  
  All the Leftists will think that their guy won, because they see how well he used their tactics. The Right does the same. So, WHO people say won, will tell you which camp the are in.
  
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OhSuzieQ
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:51pm
That was a Vice President? He was a rude, and didn’t tell the truth more than one time.

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- KC1
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:17pm
  Niether were genuine when describing their views.
  The title said they were at “odds on almost every issue”. Ha what a joke, they argued about cliches and rhetoric.
  I had trouble identifying actual policy difference (yet again). If the Romney Ryan ticket were to grow a pair and take a stand for free markets and individual liberties they would be ten points ahead in the polls, but instead they decide to endorse in the same Big Govt solutions the Obama administration has proposed.
  
  Anyone notice (yet again) both want to sustain the Govt income from taxes instead of lowering them to enable the free market to allocate that capitol? How about the supposed “protector” of individual liberties and limited Govt Ryan, never mentioned how the TSA is molesting children at the airport? How about no mention of the Fed and their never ending QE? Its become quite clear both candidates for the executive office offer no real change on foreign policy or domestic policy. Both endorse in a centrally planned economy and neither want to reduce the govts spending or income from taxes.
  
  Do any of you RINO blazers see the gigantic mistake you have made by endorsing in a big Govt progressive? Can you now see that the Republicans have offered you no change from the previous administration? More Euro Socialism from both parties, the pomp and rhetoric may be different but the legislation will be identical.
  
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WashingtheBrainWashed
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:51pm
Romney won round one. Biden got tagged in and won round two.

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- Tigress1
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:55pm
  How can you win a debate if it wasn’t a debate? Tonight was a filibuster not a debate!
  
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- OhSuzieQ
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:57pm
  No way! He acted like a jerk.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:08pm
  acting like a jerk is what america likes to see. Romney knew that going into round 1 and Biden knew that going into round 2
  
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- dwilco77
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:21pm
  wow That sucks. I must have watched the debate on the wrong channel. The one I watched, there was this briiliant young guy being interrupted by this old man talkin out his a**.
  
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- moreoilplease
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:48pm
  “Biden won round 2″
  Uh, No. He waved his hands around, smirked some and spoke like a true career politician. And referred to a comment by Ryan as “stuff”. Really, he won!? Best you can say is he didn’t flounder too much. Ryan certainly didn’t savage Biden but he was the clear winner.
  
  Good old two drink minimum Joe delivered about what I expected and Obama better be thankful he didn’t go meandering into gibberish.
  
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- Gonzo
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 9:58am
  LOL, good one!
  
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Tigress1
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:50pm
When discussing the Libyan embassy attack on 9/11, Biden SINCERELY said that they are working so that that would “never happen again”. Well, IT HAPPENED AGAIN TODAY! A security chief was shot 3 times in the head and killed today at our embassy in Yemen. Now Biden is full of malarky!

http://twitchy.com/2012/10/11/breaking-gunman-kills-yemens-security-chief-at-us-embassy-in-sanaa/

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crusaderx9
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:50pm
An unhinged Biden will backfire as the issues in this election are too great and severe to dismiss with a smirk.

Ryan will be seen as the stable performer while an emotional moderator could not control an erratic Biden.

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Robert999
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:50pm
I liked that Ryan took a strong stand on abortion, but why are they continuing to say they will allow in for rape, etc?

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- Atrum Angelis
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:02pm
  Ok, innocent life for incest and rape. But what about when the mother is in danger for her life?
  Would you allow it then? Lose one or lose both.
  
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- needmoinfo
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:17pm
  What will you do with a pregnant 8 yr. old rape victim who’s body is too immature to have a baby. Have you ever seen rape a victim? Some that live are scarred for life, mentally, emotionally and physically. Much like our returning soldiers. Got to judge case by case.
  
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- tugdiver
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 7:32am
  He said rape, incest and risk to the mother.
  
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- Robert999
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 3:57pm
  @NEEDMOINFO, 99.9 % of 8 year old girls are too young to get pregnant. If she has reached puberty at that young age and can get pregnant, then she can give birth.
  
  All Others, In the case of rape, why punish the innocent child for the father’s crime? If the girl doesn’t want the baby, she can give it up for adoption.
  
  In the case of death of the mother, the question is whether to save the baby or the mother. I doubt there are a lot of cases where this is really an issue. In those few cases, I come down on saving the baby.
  
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Joey8
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:48pm
What I don’t understand is how one second, Joe Biden is explaining that the Libya disaster was based off of poor intelligence, that was their excuse. Then, the next point on Iran getting nukes, Biden is claiming “our intelligence will tell us if they get the rockets needed to launch the nukes, don’t worry!” Really?

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- Tigress1
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:53pm
  Biden said that Iran is a “long way off” from getting nukes. Funny, just last week I heard they were 3 months away.
  
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- OhSuzieQ
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:54pm
  So very true Joey!!
  
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- moreoilplease
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:54pm
  Any time someone says trust me, don’t trust them. Iran doesn’t need a missile to attack Israel, they can just drive it over there. If you’re Israel, you do NOT want them to have any type of nuclear weapon. Don’t forget Israel is a 1 bomb nation. That’s all it would take to render the entire country uninhabitable.
  
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- Totally Domestic
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 12:59am
  Biden seemed to be making the case NO NEED TO WORRY.
  The little mad man in Iran will never find a way to deliver his bomb even if someday way way out in the future he finishes making it.
  
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- Tex Mex in San Marcos
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 1:07am
  Joey8. Who are you? I’ve read some of your posts on this and other subjects. I am interested in your line of thought. I am Catholic, but also know that my religion has strayed. You sound like an intelligenet “philosopher”. I have on may occasions considered myself a Gentile. (Meaning, from my point of view, someone whom doesn’t understand or is confused. Correct me if I’m wrong.) I’m still trying to learn and understand, and I’m 45 yrs. old. I would like to talk to someone who is knowledgable, which you seem to be, about “The truth”, without the BS. I know the Lord has put many on this Earth to make us understand, because so much has been falsely distorted. I want to know. Tell me what you know, please. The Lord has watched over me alllll these years. I’ll know whether you are true or false. My name is Alma Gloria Salinas. Translated into english, my name is Heavenly Soul Salinas. I am His child. Please email me @ alma_salinas@yahoo.com, if you would like to write to me, and tell me; how you got to know Him.
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 15, 2012 at 11:40am
  @Tex Mex
  Check that email, I sent you one. I’ve been gone all weekend at military drill.
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 15, 2012 at 2:40pm
  @TEX MEX
  
  I wouldn’t go looking for the truth from JOEY8. He has the teachings of men and the Bible says all men are liars.
  
  All the truth you need can be found in the Bible. Don’t listen to the words of men.
  
  Here is a site that will answer any question you have about Jesus and His Church. http://www.gotquestions.org/
  
  If you want to learn about JOEY8′s religion, look here
  
  http://utlm.org/onlinebooks/mclaimscontents.htm
  
  Or here
  
  http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/contradictionsinldsscriptures_verses.htm#Alma41v8
  
  Or here
  
  http://mormonisminvestigated.co.uk/
  
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- theotherberean
  Posted on October 15, 2012 at 2:58pm
  JOEY8 said: “I’ve been gone all weekend at military drill.”
  
  Actually you’re only 14 and your hormones are raging out of control so you had to go back to the temple for a reboot and a qt of snake oil. LoL
  
  Hey, did you hear Mormon apostle Quentin L. Cook speak at the October General conference?
  
  https://www.lds.org/general-conference/watch/2012/10?lang=eng&vid=1882749042001&cid=5
  
  He warned Mormons that if they have been on the Internet and discovered the truth about their church and it has left them in a “spiritual drought,” they should repent.
  
  Good advise. If you discover the truth and it affects your faith negatively, the solution is to repent. I mean, after all, your Mormon faith is WAY more important than the truth. Right?
  
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jmac1551
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:46pm
well thanks bidden after watching debate obviously your not very good at listening, how can you listen to the people of America if you can’t shut up for five minutes

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- 4GODUSAANDISRAEL
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:52pm
  Wish there was a like button for this.
  
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- TyrannyNoMore
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:56pm
  There was a point there toward the last third of the debate, I thought Joe was going to have an aneurism. The anger on his face was disconcerting to watch. I thought he was going to start throwing a tantrum at any moment.
  
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rookorami
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:45pm
The moderation seems to be fighting for Joe. How are you supposed to make a point with two people screaming over you?

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floridareader
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:45pm
I am disgusted with the moderator’s job. But at the same time, I loved Ryan’s closing statement. He didn’t speak to the moderator but to the American people, looked at us and told us: “you deserve better”.

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IntheDirt
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:43pm
Listening on the radio within one min of debate end Sam Donaldson says Biden Wins.

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- The_Hut_In_Co
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:50pm
  I’m thinkin dumb sam is on another wave length. WTH! Bidden is one arrogant, condescending, lyin bag of dog squeeze!
  
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- justa_thought
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:52pm
  you are lucky. I wish I had listened instead of watching plugs make his clown face all night.
  
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- IOWAGIR
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 6:24am
  Dog squeeze!!! LOLOLOLOLOL!!! Never heard that before. I might have to start using that if you don’t mind.
  
  And Clown face is spot on! Clowns creep me out. Biden is creepy!
  
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- The_Hut_In_Co
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 8:16am
  @IOWAGIR, Use it as you wish! I’m glad it brought a laugh to someone! That one goes back a few years. Oh by the way, I was trying to be nice so my comment didn’t get scrubbed.
  
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- The_Hut_In_Co
  Posted on October 12, 2012 at 8:30am
  Clowns creep me out too! Ever since “Pogo the Clown” my view of clowns has really changed!
  
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2THINKABOUTIT
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:42pm
Joe Biden acted like a jackal or better yet a hyena. The bigger the truth out of Ryan’s mouth the more Biden cackled. What an ass. Biden made an ass out of himself again. I can not wait to see Saturday Night Live. Joe Biden, condescending juvenile angry, angry man (laughing hyena lie detector).

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Secret Squirrel
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:42pm
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Martha did a good job of keeping Biden in the game.

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ssfloatnfly
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:42pm
WAKE UP AMERICA !!! tHIS ADMIN WANTS AMERICANS DEAD AND WEAK LEADING FROM BEHIND!!! EVERYTHING HE HAS DONE IS TO WEAKEN OUR STANCE IN THE WORLD!!! THIS ADMIN’S PUBLIC DISCOURSE IS RUDE AND DISGUSTING. LIES, LIES,LIES

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4GODUSAANDISRAEL
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:42pm
WWould have been nice to see Ryan get a full point out before being interrupted by Biden or the moderator. I guess having a moderator who’s wedding was attended by Obama was a huge plus to the democrats.

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- TerryDo
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:57pm
  Martha Raddatz interruped Paul Ryan almost as much as Joe Biden did. There was a time they were both pouncing on Ryan to answer another question, while he was still responding to the first question Raddatz asked. I
  t was long and boring and Biden was a complete idiot, with his ostentatious outrage, rude interruptions and forced laughter.
  
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- ambrosia
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:42pm
  Raddatz was horrible.
  She wouldn’t let Ryan finish his thought, leave alone an answer.
  When he brought up the failed foreign policy, she quickly “Moved On”-
  as they all tend to do,
  when they know their “Boy-King” is going to take a whipping.
  
  Worse of all, besides Biden
  was the camera setup, it was totally annoying.
  It had Ryan looking off screen
  & that wide, white line down the middle
  for the split screen shot
  made the whole debate look like a bad infomercial.
  It was horrible !
  
  Raddatz lost control of “Bazooka-Joe”
  and started screeching, like a jilted witch, she was ALL wrong as a moderator.
  The moderator should have been Megyn Kelly-
  smart, classy & in control….simply the best.
  
  I think, in another life,
  ole’Joe would have loved to played the part of John Forsythe’s “Charlie”
  in “Charlie’s Angels”-
  he fancies himself, as so debonair.
  
  I suppose with this jerk, anything would be possible-
  how the hell did he get to where he is today ?
  Time to retire, “Charlie” !
  
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cliKKer
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:41pm
Did you notice the moderator? watch the number of times she is talking over/at Ryan while Biden is interrupting. Also notice… they constantly asked Ryan what would Romney/Ryan do. Yet, can anyone name when Biden was asked… ok you don’t agree what Romney will do. What will you do? You say “CUT RICH PEOPLES TAX CUT” ok you get all their money 800billion…. then what? and listen to Iran issue…. THEY CAN GET THE EXPLOSIVES… but they don’t have the place to put the bomb and launch it in. “WHAT THE!!!!!” what is easier to get the Rocket to deploy the nuke or the nuke material. These people are morons.

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rgavin
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:41pm
Joe was a laughing Hyena, it was more than annoying. Very disrespectful for a VP

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crusaderx9
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:40pm
Biden is putting on a brave smirk as his ship is sinking…

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ssfloatnfly
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:39pm
when your record is bleak and foreign policy is a failure and worst is costing AMERICAN LIVES you attack and demean. This administration is rude and discusting in all aspects. Joe Biden is one rude SOB and Obama is GAY. MAN’s Country LOOK IT UP. His allegience is to allhaahaahaa look at his foreign policy.

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Sickandtiredofextremists
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:39pm
“Uncle” Joe’s smirks were so frequent as to be both planned fake.

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progressiveslayer
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:38pm
Biden with his constant laughing and interrupting got his ass kicked and it’s time the lifetime politician gets fired.

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electrician8
Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:35pm
Biased moderator kept interrupting Ryan and also never put Bidden in check for doing the same.

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- Kupo
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:43pm
  I thought she pretty fair, actually.
  
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- Joey8
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 10:46pm
  I thought she did alright, maybe my expectations for her were just that low.
  
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- Ronko
  Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:21pm
  Agree, she was definitely biased. I prefered the other guy, at least he let Obama and Romney debate instead of picking one side 75% of the time. Who would have thought that PBS was more fair on debates.
  
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