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Who Will Catholics Choose This November — Obama or Romney?

This year, the Catholic Church made its issues with the Obama administration’s policies more than clear — particularly on the contraception mandate, which requires faith-based organizations and colleges to violate conscience. Considering the very public spat between church and state, many commentators have wondered how the fallout will translate, if at all, at the polls come November.

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President Barack Obama waves during a fundraiser event at the Capital Hilton Hotel Sept. 28, 2012 in Washington, D.C. (Getty Images)

Let’s take a brief trip down memory lane. In 2008, Obama captured the Catholic vote (about 24 percent of the nation calls itself Catholic) by a wide margin — 54 percent to challenger John McCain’s 45 percent. In contrast, in 2004, George W. Bush beat Democratic opponent John Kerry (52 percent to 47 percent). Depending on the election year, Catholic voters have been known to favor the Democrat or the Republican (it varies).

Despite Obama’s past victory among this cohort, believers are now showing concern — and tend to agree with the Bishops’ fears about the contraceptive mandate. Religion News Service has more about a poll that the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life released two months ago:

The poll, released Wednesday (Aug. 1) by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life as the contraception mandate took effect, found that among Catholics who are aware of the bishops’ protests, 56 percent say they agree with the bishops’ concerns, as opposed to 36 percent who disagree.

That’s stronger than among Americans at large who have heard of the bishops’ concerns, where 41 percent agree with the bishops and 47 percent disagree.

The same poll found, though, that these beliefs — that the Catholic Church is under siege by the administration’s controversial policy — have not yet translated into the political sphere. When the results were collected, Obama had 51 percent of Catholic voters’ support, while Romney had only 42 percent. There’s no doubt that these proportions can and have changed leading up to the election, as voters learn more about the candidates.

But the question right now, especially among campaign insiders, remains: In which direction will the Catholic vote swing?

Will the Catholic Vote Go to Obama or Romney? Polls Show Mixed Results

Photo Credit: Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate

New research analysis from the Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate (CARA) at Georgetown University seems to indicate that the Catholic vote is currently a toss-up — one that tonight’s vice-presidential debate could have an impact on. The center’s official blog reports:

Thursday’s VP debate will be the first with two Catholic candidates from opposing parties meeting in a televised national election forum. As they meet, the “Catholic vote” is back to “too close to call” with President Obama leading among all Catholic registered voters (49% Obama to 45% Romney) and Gov. Romney leading among all likely Catholic voters (50% Romney to 44% Obama). This week’s new data are from two sources; Gallup and Pew…Likely voter estimates are now revealing the importance of enthusiasm and turnout for the eventual outcome. Currently, 84 percent of Catholic registered voters say they will definitely vote in November.

Unlike in years past it will be more difficult to know which candidate “won” the Catholic vote in the end. Exit polls have been cut from 19 states so we will have no national picture of the vote. CARA will rely on Gallup and the National Election Study to track Catholic voting history. It’s unprecedented for two Catholic candidates to face off in a national forum that is likely to be so heavily watched. It will be interesting to see if faith becomes part of the discussion and if the debate moves the Catholic vote one way or the other.

Clearly, it’s a toss-up. And with weeks still left in the campaign season, anything is possible. Will Catholics decide that Obama is too hostile to the faith to be trusted with a second term — or will the contraceptive mandate and other related issues have little sway over voters? Only time will tell.

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Comments (115)

  • psadie
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 4:01pm

    With all that has been happening in our country and the world, HOW can anyone vote for Obama? I am a Catholic and I can’t believe that this may be a toss up for votes. Catholics can’t be that stupid can they? WE won’t have any rights left if this ROGUE PRESIDENT is re-elected.

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    • HKS
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 4:21pm

      Sometimes people come to light that cause people to do unthinkable things, like Charles Manson and many others like him. History talks of the Pide-Piper leading people over cliffs to their death. Strange as it seems it’s true, there are such people and Obama is one of them. People are literally following him off a cliff. One can only hope that enough people see through the maze and vote this parasite out and send him to pasture to save us all.

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    • gralc
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 4:21pm

      You can’t tell Catholics anything until they have lost all of their rights.(free speech & religion). I know I’m one of them. My friends from Catholic school are Democrats and the nuns were all Democrats. Very upsetting.

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    • RWCT
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 4:30pm

      Answer: YES, they can be, based on the numbers. I assume though, that your question was a rhetorical one?

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    • Ilikepeople
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 4:47pm

      Half the people will choose Obama, and the other half will choose Romney, both sides making their choices to vindicate themselves, and glorify themselves, and they will say “Thank God.” Because apparently God glorifies you instead of the other way around. Now the Atheists will say “Thank myself.” I wonder who’s worse? Now 6 of 10 Americans won’t vote at all, and they won’t vote because they like playing both sides of the aisle. That 6 of 10 won’t vote because they are glory whores, and they can feel justified complaining about both sides no matter whether they are around Democrats and liberals, or Republicans and Conservatives. Me personally, I believe in the power of the individual (there’s stronger government inside an individual), and so I’ll cast my vote for who supports the individual more adamantly.

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    • T-2
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 4:48pm

      I’m a Catholic, I’ve always vote Republican.

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    • hereandnow
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 4:59pm

      The problem with Catholicism is that it is losing the practice of Christianity.

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    • dukeofpaducah
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 5:02pm

      @PSADIE
      I couldn’t agree with you more.
      Catholics that vote for obama need to check their rosary beads at the doors of their churches, excommunicate themselves and continue on with their devil worshiping ways.

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    • db321
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 7:19pm

      I can’t tell you how the Catholics will vote, but I can tell you how God would vote based on the Word of God. Catholics just like all people will be judge for every word and deed in our lives.

      God would not vote for:
      ***Abortion
      ***Gay Marriage
      ***Non Support of Israel
      ***and any political party where it takes 3 votes to put God and Israel back in the Democratic Platform. It should have never been taken out.

      It’s your eternity – Go ahead vote for Color of Skin, Food Stamps, Free BS Health Care (that’s not free), Welfare and Birth Control – after you cast your vote, you might want to invest in an asbestos suit.

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    • The citizen who cares
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 7:57pm

      @DB321

      You speak the truth. Even if the Republicans aren’t perfect and have many flaws, at least they keep God in the picture and have correct morals.

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    • snooop1e
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:24pm

      @db321 – Well said, I agree completely.

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    • The Third Archon
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 11:44pm

      Guess what *******–the Left had to put up with REAGAN, so I think you’ll survive a second Obama term.

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    • runnindeer
      Posted on October 12, 2012 at 8:59pm

      I have been wondering how Catholic or Jew can still vote for Obama? People who are at work all day do not keep up with the issues. Too many get little or no news and what they get is from local main stream media or local newspapers. So many are too involved with social engagements and lifestyle responsibility to be interested in politics enough to really keep abreast of what is happening or has happened.The Priest, and Rabbi’s and pastors of Church’s in this country can not or will not talk about politics outside the church as do so many ( most black pastors) in America toward their members.It’s no wonder that people still vote for the person they thought was a good person or that one they believe to be appealing or popular to the masses because of hype and media.

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    • Trinity33
      Posted on October 19, 2012 at 1:15pm

      No true Catholic would ever vote for obama.

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  • SITDOWNANDSHUTUP
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:57pm

    Sorry everyone, but the Catholics are like the Jews. Overall, they will vote for BS/BO because he is a liberal democrat. Even if is the absolute worst thing they could do for their religion or their race, they will still vote for BS/BO. You can’t fix stupid………and you can’t get these two voting blocks to vote with their brains.

    I know that R&R are up in the polls, and the CU computer picks them win 330 electoral votes…….but I’m not so sure. The American people, as a whole, are pretty stupid. With the current status of the USA, the Obama/Biden ticket should be finding it hard to manage 40% of the vote.

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    • fedupwiththebs
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 4:19pm

      A Catholic who calls himself/herself LIBERAL is NOT a Catholic…. This Catholic will be voting Romney/Ryan and praying they do what needs to be done to return this country back to its founding ideas of limited government and liberty for all…

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  • Cymry
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:56pm

    It should be fairly obvious that they will vote in a good majority for the Ryan(VP)/Romney(P) ticket.

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  • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:55pm

    I’m not Catholic, so I don’t know. They seem to swing both ways, politically.

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    • jaylew
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 8:49pm

      The notion of a dad leaving a confessional booth and then going out in his car…..parked in the church parking lot….and before the kids have even had a chance to buckle their own seat belts in the back seat…..dad is already screaming at the kids to sit down and shut the “F” up…..sort of diminishes the entire value of the catholic vote in my opinion…and my little reality scenario certainly does bolster yours Anonymous.

      I have yet to figure out how the typical Catholic mind works…..when it is so easy to be forgiven by a mere priest… it seems then that forgetting becomes even easier…..almost a habit in fact. And although the Catholic church has done tremendous things around the world in terms of relieving suffering and misery….history also reminds an honest person that the church has an often ugly and hideous past…the Spanish Inquisition comes to mind…….and so it is..that once again in the name of an organized religion human beings were killed and slaughtered like animals. I am not an atheist and am far from one actually….but through the ages of recorded history….the Catholic Church like so many other major organized dogmas and faiths…..suffers from the doctrine of unclean hands….and because of it’s very deep rooted concept of guilt…one never knows which way the Catholic Church and it’s most allegiant followers as well as it’s own ardent group of activists are going to vote as a “group”. Anonymous is right on the money on this one.

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    • im4data
      Posted on October 12, 2012 at 8:43am

      @jaylew

      The intention isn’t to ‘scare’ people away; it’s to inform people of the facts to make good decisions for themselves. This is akin to educating people about cigarettes and their harmful effect on the body. Most of us who understand these effects aren’t advocating bans on cigarettes but rather we want promote the message that it’s stupid to continue such a behavior. When it comes to “the pill”, most people are not aware of what it does to their body. It has been pushed on the market with very little concern for the women that use it, young women who’s bodies are still developing. These women are then are encouraged to stay on the pill until the point of menopause and are increased risks of blood clots, heart attacks, pulmonary embolisms, breast cancer, uterine cancer, pelvic inflammatory disease, depression, lower libido, and the list goes on. Here are just a couple of references to demonstrate the point: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9914611
      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9914611

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    • im4data
      Posted on October 12, 2012 at 8:45am

      Obviously I pasted the same link twice. Sorry. Here is the other one I wanted to point to:

      http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=amZT0X84_8zU&refer=home

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    • iampraying4u
      Posted on October 12, 2012 at 7:19pm

      who would vote for a mooslim commie quear?

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  • ronin_6
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:53pm

    I am Catholic.
    I am voting for Romney.

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    • Sonicviewlover
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:59pm

      I am Catholic, I am voting for Romney too, as will my wife!

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    • Ilikepeople
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:59pm

      Which one does the Pope like the most?

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    • Hollibrook
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 4:27pm

      I don’t care who the Pope likes more. As a Catholic, I look to the Pope on issues of my faith, not my politics or social justice or any other non-religious issues.

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  • team1blazer
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:53pm

    As a Christian, whether Catholic, Babtist, Lutheran, Pentacostal or whatever denomination, you CAN NOT support a candidate who stands in opposition to the basic tenants of Christian theology. Obama stands for infantacide (the murder of millions of innocent human beings). He supports gay “marriage”; sorry folks, but “marriage” is a covenant relationship ordained by God between one man and one woman, for life. If you want gay rights, I’m all for it, but it will never be OK with God, and will never be blessed by him. He supports Islam, which is in direct conflict with all of the tenants of Christianity. He is a blatant liar. He constantly bears false witness against his opponents. The list go au simply, if you are a Christian, you can not support this man. If you do, you ar

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    • dcgirl
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 4:00pm

      Absolutely I agree with you. Those that vote for Obama cannot call themselves true Christians or Catholics.

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  • Katydidnt
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:49pm

    Women of Grace this week is doing a week long series on the physical dangers to women who use contraceptives. The World Health Organization in 2006 classified birth control pills as a class 1 carcinogen, right up there with asbestos, dioxin and cigarette smoke. 21 out of 23 studies have shown a link to breast cancer formation. It greatly increases the chances of a woman having a stroke as young as her 30s. It causes some women to enter into an early menopause some as early as their 20s. It is also linked to so many other diseases that affect women, yet we hand it out like candy and practically require women to take it. It is the politically correct thing to do.
    You can go to http://www.womenofgrace.com and listen to the podcasts presented by practicing physicians.

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    • Ilikepeople
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:57pm

      It doesn’t seem there’s much credibility in differentiating [all Catholic voters] from [likely Catholic voters].

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    • jaylew
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 9:03pm

      We get it already…..anyone of any faith or stripe with one semester of simple biochemistry can if they choose to genuinely understand it….. the powerful dynamic of human hormones and the tweaking thereof. Having said that….with or without any knowledge of chemistry or biology…..humans beings are still going to copulate…and often do so like animals. It is not going to work to try to scare women or girls from having sexual relations….and frankly as sad and awful as my next sentence is going to be…i am tired of supporting other human beings illegitimate children. This matter is not a simple hormone problem….it is one of personal responsibility and the best way to differentiate a human being from nothing more than an animal is to not behave like an animal in the first place. You cannot scare “birth control” away…if you cannot hold a person or persons responsible for their own actions…and that includes the in’s and out’s of sex. As long as this society continues to literally and rhetorically and financially support poor decision making in the human copulation arena…..trying to scare anyone with the dangers of hormones is a waste of time.

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  • rjoco1
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:46pm

    Do people really understand partial birth abortion. The baby is partially delivered and then killed before a complete live birth. How can any Catholic support this. Odumbo should not get one Catholic vote. WAKE UP!!

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    • Swimming-with-the-Sharks
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:54pm

      I agree with one exception. If Obama’s mother had sought for an abortion (early or late) while she was pregnant with him, not only would I have supported her, I would have performed it myself if necessary.

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    • Trinity33
      Posted on October 19, 2012 at 1:18pm

      I agree!

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  • Exidor
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:42pm

    Add Hispanic Catholic to the equation and see if the numbers change.

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  • 123abc
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:39pm

    Any Catholic who chooses obama is not a real Catholic.

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  • Tom K
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:38pm

    How will Catholics Vote ? How will Black American Christians Vote and retain their Christian principles ? Check Bishop E.W. Jackson’s ” A Message to Black Christians ” .

    http://youtu.be/Oi_KaZ53eDg

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  • gypsy639
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:33pm

    Catholics and the Jews will vote for obama regardless of what obama does to them. Every Catholic and Jew who casts a vote for obama, deserves the miserable fate he will heap on them.

    In the words of that famous philosopher, Forest Gump, “stupid is as stupid does”.

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    • Hollibrook
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:45pm

      Don’t generalize us Catholics. The majority of us in the USA are not the same as Pelosi or Biden.

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    • dcgirl
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 4:02pm

      Well, 54% of Catholics voted for Obama in 2008 so that is a majority.

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    • Hollibrook
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 4:24pm

      I never answered a poll about my religious affiliation. It also is not on my vote. I do not believe most of the polls that are out there, why do you?

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  • kat747
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:32pm

    The ANTI-Americans will vote for Barry
    …we do NOT know his real, legal name yet
    The AMERICANS will vote for Romney
    …we DO know that his name is Mitt Romney

    Catholics are Americans who believe in freedom of religion
    and
    do NOT vote with their lady parts.

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  • Dushman Kush
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:30pm

    Catholics, like the rest of Americans, may vote for our Esteemed Comrade Obama or for our Esteemed Comrade Romney. Comrade Soros approves the Romney-Ryan ticket, FYI. Long Live the Communist International!! Socialism now, Socialism forever!!!

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  • EtchASketch
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:30pm

    What kind of question is this?

    The same kind of question as “who will Mormons choose?”

    Pointless and indicative of nothing other than boredom.

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  • PATTY HENRY
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:23pm

    THIS CATHOLIC is totally behind ROMNEY/RYAN. I’m a PATRIOT; PRO LIFE; PRO AMERICAN; anti Communist; Marxist; Muslim Brotherhood; I don’t think our country will last one more year, much less 4 if Obama gets in. WE KNOW WHAT HE’LL DO…we can’t survive with him.
    Aside from the total lack of character; THIS MAN IS A COMMUNIST.
    HE wants to do away with our RIGHT TO PRACTICE OUR RELIGION.
    HE arrogantly thinks he can tell our CHURCHES what to do.
    Most Presidents write 10 Executive Orders during their Tenure…THIS ARROGANT TWIT has written over 940 EXECUTIVE ORDERS….he has been tying us up in every way he can.. under the radar…hard
    for right and left hand to know what is going on…but if he gets re-elected…BOOM!!! He springs it all on us. Forget the LARGEST TAX HIKE in HISTORY; That’s chicken feed compared to the other
    CONTROLS this freak has put into place…so NO, I’d never vote for OBAMA, for the Sake of Human Life, for the Sake of our Country, for the sake of our AMERICA – NO MORE FOR THIS DICTATOR WANNA-BE….look what HE did to our Ambassador in Libya!!!! Look what he’s doing to our SOLDIERS??? HE’S a TRAITOR, folks. pure and simple.

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  • ShyLow
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:18pm

    God bless Sinead O’Conner. I love her version of House of the Rising Son

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  • Scott Ryan
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:18pm

    I’m going to ruffle some feathers. There is no such thing as the “Catholic vote” and hasn’t been one in my 41 year lifetime. The notion is a myth. Catholics in general go to mass on weekends and holidays. They listen to the priest and leave it at the door. That is why the vast majority of them vote PRO-ABORTION, even PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION candidates. Their union bosses have more influence on them.

    Rick Santorum, the man I supported in the primaries, a true CHRISTIAN who is for some reason a Catholic: Where did the vast majority of his votes and small donations come from? Evangelicals/Protestants.

    To who the Catholics will support is naive. They do not support anyone – as Catholics. They support whomever they feel caters to their personal desires.

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    • zorro
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:27pm

      I agree there is no such thing as a “Catholic” vote. Those so called “Catholics” whom you described aren’t really Catholics at all. It’s a good thing Protestants\Evengelicals are perfect Christians to be casting such stones at their Christian brothers and sisters.

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:28pm

      Scott: “FOR SOME REASON A CATHOLIC”….. really? Way to turn off 28% of the voters, dude.
      We don’t have to defend our great faith…the ROCK that Jesus spoke about with Peter. The BIBLE the CATHOLIC CHURCH wrote; the Centuries of research. IF you don’t go to a service and know the faith, don’t knock it, okay? I know there are many routes up the MOUNTAIN to JESUS then to HEAVEN, but I thank GOD every day that HE led me to my CATHOLIC FAITH….

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    • tradcatholicgirl
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:56pm

      Scott,

      I know a lot of trad Catholics who would not consider voting for anyone unless they are pro-life. It is true, there are too many cafeteria Catholics out there who do not know their faith and who only practice the parts of it that are convenient to their lifestyle.

      They would not consider the inconvenience of natural planning or chastity or giving birth to a child not planned.

      It is sad to realize that many will not fully practice their faith until it is tested in the fires of tyranny, and many will also fail that test.

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    • Scott Ryan
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 4:34pm

      True Zorro. I didn’t mean to imply that Protestants are better. The Protestant “church” is in bad shape as well. There is no Methodist vote, Episcopalian vote or Presbyterian vote either. But there is an “evangelical vote”. Santorum and Gingrich, both Catholics could count on them.

      But this column was about the fictional “Catholic vote” which does not exist. No offense, I came from the Catholic church as well. Most of my family who I love dearly are Catholic.

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  • lukeshop
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:14pm

    It’s hard to believe that good Catholics would vote for a muslim?????? Unbelievable!!!!

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  • marcus_arealius
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:06pm

    Any Catholic voting for ANY demorat is NOT A CATHOLIC. Period.

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  • floridareader
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:06pm

    I don’t understand how a Catholic can be liberal. For me is a contradiction. Liberals hate the Ten Commandments, promote abortion, love gay marriage, curse all the time, disrespect their elders, steal whenever they see the opportunity, lie all the time, disregard or deny the existence of God. They are all the opposite of what a Catholic is supposed to be.

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    • angelcat
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 4:02pm

      Many Catholics think that helping others only means GOVERNMENT helping others or think that if they think something is right that it is ok to follow their own conscience. And many grew up as Democrats and just stay that way like sheep following a shepherd, even if the shepherd leads them over a moral cliff.

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 4:29pm

      angelcat – I think you are right. They do not understand true social justice and have fallen for the progressive version of it. Older Catholics were always Democrats. Now they are just uninformed. I know one older Catholic couple that is so worried about losing their healthcare if Romney wins they will move to Canada. They just have not keep themselves informed and are unaware of O’s real agenda. Thats not an excuse, they should know better.

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  • Cavallo
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:04pm

    Working for a Catholic Hospital, likely I’ll lose my health insurance. In a choice between God and Employee Insurance, the insurance is going to lose with the Archdioceses every day of the week and twice on Sunday. So who should I blame? The employer who was asked to violate their dedication to their faith and God, or the Fascist State that demanded they do so?

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  • angelcat
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:03pm

    Our parish is actually having a talk on Catholics and voting next week – the well-informed Catholic conscience and who Catholics can/ cannot vote for based on policies. It will NOT mention any candidates, but anyone who has an iota of intelligence will clearly see a vote for Obama and many of the Democrats running is a vote against the well-formed Catholic conscience and God’s laws. This is the first time such a talk has been held. We have had 2 homilies recently about religious freedom and government infringement on it. Again, no party or candidate was mentioned, but the meaning was clear. I hope other parishes across the country are doing the same thing. Unfortunately, there are many Catholics who don’t have well-informed consciences or misunderstand Jesus’ desire for US, not the government, to help those in need and thus support Obama. So sad!

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:18pm

      Our parish priest has already discussed the Church’s dogma and doctrine and what it may mean to your immortal soul without mentioning any candidate or party. A person would have to have the IQ of a rock not to clearly hear the message.

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  • PontiusPirate
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:01pm

    Contraceptives prevent abortions. Figure it out church.

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:14pm

      I take it by your name (A parody of the Roman who killed Jesus Christ) that you are here to post reasonable, debate worthy topic-starters.

      Let’s hope I’m right.

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    • tiredofbeingtired
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:16pm

      you pay for them stupid

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    • Cavallo
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:21pm

      Good morals (and some common sense) prevent abortion. Being a drunken loose wh@re will likely get you with not only STDs, but unplanned children. If you don’t like being living by Catholic Law then don’t be a Catholic. I’m not a Catholic but I don’t demand that Catholics violate their faith for utilitarian reasons.

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    • Katydidnt
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:33pm

      Many contraceptives cause abortions. They don’t allow the egg to implant but don’t stop actual conception.
      Contraceptives encourage promiscious behavior. If a woman lives in an urban area, by the time she is 19 about 1/3 of them will have clamydia. This and other diseases can lead to an increased risk of infertility, and cervical cancer.
      If she is taking the pill and she smokes she has an increased chance of stroking out especially over 30.
      The pill allows her to be treated as a sex object, someone to be used.
      A healthy body can reproduce. These pills take a healthy body and purposely interfere with normal functioning.
      There are several methods of natural family planning out there that are very effective. That teach you to respect your own healthy body and understand it and its cycles. It might mean you have to wait a few days if the timing isn’t right. Horrors, but it increases the communication between the spouses.
      The divorce rate among couples practicing Natural Family Planning is 2%.
      You want to plan your family, you can. You don’t have to use artificial means that destroys embryos, and disables a healthy body.

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    • Tom K
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:42pm

      @ PONTIUSPIRATE : Not committing adultery prevents pregnancy AND abortion.

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    • zorro
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:42pm

      Then why do we still have so many abortions? We’ve been pushing pills on our little girls for well over a decade. By now, abortions should all be gone, right? Figure that out, chump.

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  • LeadNotFollow
    Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:00pm

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    Anyone who walks with God, will pick Romney.
    Anyone who walks with Satan, will pick Obama.

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    • floridareader
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:07pm

      Short and concise. Agree!

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    • MaleneSBrown
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:18pm

      I have to agree.

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    • Tom K
      Posted on October 11, 2012 at 3:43pm

      @ LEADNOTFOLLOW : Bing ! We have a winner !

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    • jettson
      Posted on October 12, 2012 at 8:27am

      If you plan to vote for obama you are wrong. This is the worst president that America has ever had. The country will take years to fix. The demorats can go to hell. America save our country we MUST vote them OUT. NOBAMA in 2012

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