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Atheists Release Report Card for Presidential Candidates to Help Secular Americans Choose
On Tuesday, the Secular Coalition for America (SCA), a lobbying group that represents atheists and non-theists, released its “2012 Presidential Candidate Scorecard.” The tool, which takes into account the Libertarian and Green Party candidates in addition to the Republican and Democratic front-runners, is intended to help non-believers select a candidate who is sensitive to their views on the role of faith in government.
Like any report card, candidates are given a grade that ranges from “A” to “F” (D wasn’t an option). Only those contenders who are on the ballot in enough states that they would, theoretically, be able to reach 270 electoral votes — the magic number needed to win the presidency — are included.
Naturally, one might wonder what the grades are based upon. According to a press release put out by the SCA, the candidates’ public statements and actions in five areas and on 17 issues were considered. The main focus of these topics, of course, is the separation of church and state and how it pertains to education, health and safety and a variety of other issues.
Here’s how the candidates fared:
- Gary Johnson, Libertarian: B
- Barack Obama, Democrat: C
- Mitt Romney, Republican: F
- Jill Stein, Green Party: Incomplete
A detailed analysis of the contenders’ stances on subjects ranging from the contraceptive mandate to “recognition of the U.S. as a secular nation” (Obama scored an “A” in this latter area and Romney received an “F”) can be found on the SCA web site. An overview of the scorecard, though, which is broken down issue-by-issue, can be found, below:

Photo Credit: Secular Coalition of America
The SCA maintains that the report card is important for non-believers, as it may help guide their actions at the polls come November. For atheist activists who hold dear to their secular values, it’s likely that the candidates’ opinions on the separation of church and state will hold sway.
But it’s also likely that there are many atheists, just as there are people of faith, whose deep concern for the economy will trump angst over candidates’ views on faith in the public sphere. Regardless, the SCA believes that the scorecard paints a telling picture about America’s need to return to its purportedly secular roots.
“This scorecard shows that our current politicians still have a long way to go in protecting the secular values that America was founded on,” said Edwina Rogers, executive director of the SCA.
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KathleenElsie
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 12:22pmAtheism should be officially recognized as a religion (faith) and thus not be allowed to preach and force others to adhere to their idea of separation of faith and government..
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DeavonReye
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 12:27pmBut atheism ISN’T a “faith”, therefore doesn’t match your definition of “religion”.
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Swimming-with-the-Sharks
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 1:18pm@DeavonReye. So let’s appeal to the dictionary to define “Faith”
The most common is: “belief that is not based on proof”
That pretty much sums up what secularists demand be taught, and which is being taught in schools about the big bang, origin of the universe, evolution, the origin of man, and pretty much everything secular. All pushed as truth even though there is as much of a dearth of scientific evidence behind many of these theories as atheist claim there is for those who believe it to be of intelligent design.
Whether or not you allow it to be cast in the same paradigm as religion, many of the people who do subscribe to it come together, usually to try and dissuade, mock and destroy the others who identify themselves as religious due to their faith in a higher power; but they act just like a religion unto themselves.
Atheism is a religion. Its just the word they hate.
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1digger
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 1:21pmIt IS a faith, even in 2005 it was a court that declared: “Atheism is [the inmate's] religion, and the group that he wanted to start was religious in nature even though it expressly rejects a belief in a supreme being,” the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals said.
Again in 1961, the Supreme Court has said a religion need not be based on a belief in the existence of a supreme being. In the 1961 case of Torcaso v. Watkins, the court described “secular humanism” as a religion.
They basically believe themselves to be god over their own lives and deny reality of the only one true God who created them and all that exists. It is plain but they don’t want to accept it, so they must attempt to silence the obvious so they don’t have to deal with their conscience that would tell them otherwise, there is a God.
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ChrisDiamond
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 2:03pmI actually had ‘Atheist’ put on my dog tags. You should have seen the looks on the faces of the folks in that office when I did it… it was like I sprouted red horns, a red tail, and a forked tongue. I looked at them all (whom I knew to be moronic, pathetic, imbecilic, meandering wind bags half full of fart gas, and half full of some kind of puss, or other malignant ooze) and said, “HAIL SATAN!” Which is, of course, a raucously funny statement that I could not possibly mean, since I do not believe there is such an entity. The shock value was too much to pass up. =P
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DeavonReye
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 2:39pmSwimming – Once again, it isn’t about “belief”. Atheism is a rejection of theists claims. That’s it! And as for “evidence of evolution, origins of the universe, big bang” vs. “intelligent design”, one CAN be concluded via the scientific method. The other is a faith claim [ID] that states that a magical being popped things into existence as they were. So no, Atheism isn’t a religion no matter how you try to spin it. You are trying to lump scientific discovery and atheism together. There are THEISTS who agree with Big Bang cosmology, physical laws as per universe developement, and evolution. Atheism is a rejection of theists claims!
1digger – Because a court makes a statement doesn’t make it the case. Courts make decisions based upon [in these cases] a person’s rights. It doesn’t suddenly make atheism “a religion” like the understood definition. As I stated above, . . . Atheism is a stance.
Please demonstrate credible and compelling evidence of “the only one true god”. Please do so to where it “is plain” and “obvious” [that "they are trying to silence"]. You are making claims here. Show your evidence, else it is just your opinion, based upon “faith”.
I will tell you right now. My conscience is clear. There is nothing like “a god” out there . . . and until you prove otherwise, I have no reason to accept your claims.
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Treaty
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 5:24pm“protecting the secular values that America was founded on”
LOL at revisionists.
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davecorkery
Posted on October 19, 2012 at 11:00amI agree. Just like baptists, methodists, and all other religions should be forced back into their buildings and not bother intelligent people with their fantasies.
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Wayner
Posted on October 20, 2012 at 10:50amThese “idiots” claim to be free thinkers, but they have to go to a group for support and ideas… I would rather just go with my “knowing” there is God…. Faith is a gift from Him and I am sure glad He gave it to me.
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dswynne1
Posted on October 20, 2012 at 11:53am@DeavonReye Sorry, dude. You’re wrong, based upon three criteria. One, Webster’s dictionary defines belief as “the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true”. You believe there is no god, ergo you have a belief. Two, the theory of evolution is based upon natural selection, which postulates that, given enough time, random mutations will pop up; given even more time, some forms of mutations will prove to be advantageous to others, enabling survivability. The flaw is that you have to have multiple mutations in order to sustain a healthy population. The other flaw is that if the same mutated species interbred, you get one of two things: genetics flaws or even more mutations via “inbreeding”. Ergo, you would never have a species of creature with the exact same genetic structure that is both healthy and viable, not to mention that there has never been a “missing link”. You also fail to mention that in recent decades, the theory of evolution itself is under constant revision as technology develops better tools (like neanderthals no longer being direct ancestors to cro-magnons). And, three, IMO, secularists, atheists, etc. tend to support the idea that rights are defined by the state, and not by “god”, which is why they could easily support the idea that abortion is just a form of birth control, as well as believe that America is not an exceptional nation.
So, sorry, but you’re mistaken about many things, especially on
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child of God
Posted on October 20, 2012 at 3:47pm@deavonreye a faith or religion is anything that changes your thinking from what it was to what it is now.
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carrstone
Posted on October 20, 2012 at 6:10pmReal non-believers don’t care what your faith is or whether you have one or not, we just don’t want you to rub yours in our faces; it’s so boring, all that self-congratulatory proselytizing. But then, people of faith (christians and muslims alike) believe that they’ve failed if they haven’t converted everybody to their belief system.
And lo and behold, here’s The Blaze reporting that the reverend Billy Graham is doing what I’m talking about – calling for biblical values in poltics. When will these guys learn that the moral code is not god-given but the man-made glue that ensures that ‘e pluribus unum’ keeps its place as the primary survival mechanism?
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bravjim
Posted on October 20, 2012 at 8:06pmDeavonrey:
Sorry man, but it takes about a 1000 times more faith to believe in evolution than it does to believe in God. That is the plain truth. The reason is because evolution cannot explain exactly how life began in the first place. Or the thousands upon thousands of variations of life, plant or animal. It cannot explain how over 100,000 nerve endings in an eyeball can create sight, all by accident, or how an animal can just sprout the ability to hear, or how it can just evolve that way. Or the very symbiotic nature of nature could just happen by accident. Or the overabundance of life that you find on earth, along with all it’s variations. It is even more illogical than believing in an intelligent design or a creator. In the end, man has been unable in all of our knowledge and understanding to create life out of nonlife. All of this evidence adds up against the very concept that life could just happen by accident. And these are just some of the amazing scientific truths and don’t even scratch the surface on all of the coincidences that you have to consider. You have to be pretty damn obstinate to completely dismiss the possibility of a creator when you really consider all the the evidence.
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patricking49
Posted on October 20, 2012 at 8:37pmBut atheism is NOT a religious faith. It is a logical conclusion to empiric life. We simply don’t want any legislation based on superstition. If you have a concrete reason to oppose or encourage some type of action, we’re interested in hearing it. But if you want to impose your mystical views on those of us who don’t share them, I can tell you, as an atheist for 51 years, we are not going to stand for it. Atheism is the fastest growing point of view in the world and we answer to nothing but logic. “Perhaps one day you’ll join us and the world can be as one.”
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MemphisViking
Posted on October 20, 2012 at 10:07pmDeavonreye – “Because a court makes a statement doesn’t make it the case.”
So you’ll agree we should do away with that ‘separation of church and state’ nonsense? After all, that is based on a court decision, not the Constitution.
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psklm2010
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 6:24pmYes, atheism IS a religion, as is communism, humanism, racism, etc. The distinct sameness is anyone against the Living God, Lord God our Creator, Savior. Call yourself nice, kind, happy; whatever name we invoke is religious. When I am asked what denomination I hail from, I say I am …… The response is: yes, but what is your denomination…I am thrilled God is holding back His judgment on all men across the Earth, love Him, am devoted to Him and His Christian people AND Israel. The KKK and Hitler(ites) were some of the most religious haters of anyone but Caucasians of European descent. History really rubs, huh?
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andreww88
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 12:20pmI am a Christian, but I am a Libertarian and I feel like the government needs to get back to the Constitution and limited government. This scorecard is pretty interesting. It shows who the “big government” politicians are and that they still want to govern people’s personal lives. Romney and Obama are the same. I voted for Ron Paul in the Primary, but this time around, we need to unite and vote for Gary Johnson.
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1digger
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 1:42pmSo what you’re saying is that you’re really voting for Obama. Any vote that isn’t for Romney is a vote for Obama; it’s that simple. You may not like either and Romney wasn’t my first choice, it was Santorum but there’s only one viable option now to vote out Obama and that’s to Vote Romney-Ryan!
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ChrisDiamond
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 2:15pm1Digger, your disability in argumentation is matched only by your general mental disability, which is considerable and unfortunate.
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Slowman101
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 12:16pmAnother report that doesn’t matter by people we don’t care about.
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andreww88
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 12:21pmThat is a very rude statement to make. “People we don’t care about”?? Come on, bro!
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Fartkiskis
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 12:40pmAnother report by braying jackasses. These atheists are a wealth of useless information.
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ChrisDiamond
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 2:20pm@Andreww88
Oh no, correct not thy Christian brethren. Though they claim the Christ, they speak with forked tongues and malicious hatred.
Question Israel? “Jew hater.”
Question God? “Idiot, moron, egoist, Satan-worshipper…”
So it appears to me that the Christians here only half believe Jesus’ command to love thy neighbor as thyself, because if you happen to be Atheist or to not support israel, they will attack you with overwhelming vitriol in their nonsensical rhetoric, straw men and red herring arguments. If you happen to be a Muslim, then they want you bombed to death by drones or soldiers. They likely want the same for liberals, socialists, communists etc. Really a pleasant bunch and positive representatives of your Christ.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 11:55amRelease the trolls!
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00100111
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 10:10amLOL! Hilarious. No one cares what atheists think. This report card will be appropriately filed away in File 13.
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BasketFullOfPuppies
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 10:03amAtheists and Muslims have something in common. They both deny history for their own gain.
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davecorkery
Posted on October 19, 2012 at 11:22amWrong. Atheists think. Muslims and christians obey, with their heads up their A***s.
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Individualism
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 9:32amGary Johnson is not an authoritarian nutjob like Obama and Romney are, no surprise glad there voting Gary Johnson than or supporting.
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woodyee
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 9:28amProbably just one person, if not a small handful, that the media is promulgating for it’s own propaganda.
We need no convincing that the media chooses which political candidate to support for office, and no method is too extreme to see their candidate gets elected (see Gaybama). But the media has more in mind than just getting political candidates elected; they want to take traditional American values and destroy them. In essence, if not fact, they want to achieve the same goals as Gaybama’s Bill Ayers, using the methods of Gaybama’s Saul Alinsky.
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Mikeil305
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 9:20amAs a nonbeliever, I really don’t like atheists. My rights have never been infringed upon, I have never felt like a second class citizen because our motto has god in it.
Atheists do not need to group together. I am convinced there is not a god, but I don’t need to hang out with other people just because they share the same conviction. The same way I don’t hang around in a group where everybody agrees that the sky is not purple and the oceans are not made of cheese.
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OhioRifleman
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 10:04amThank you for the courage of your convictions stated in a civil and non-assaulting fashion. You will get a ration of flak for showing such courage, but at least some of us respect differing opinions around here.
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DeavonReye
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 11:02amMike, I see no evidence of “a god”, nor “feel like a second class citizen” either. However, it IS a lot harder to find a quality group of friends, as a non-believer. My social life is basically non-existent. I hang out with siblings. That’s it. So, in a way, . . . I DO feel like an outcast in some aspects of my life.
As for this topic, . . . .whatever the issues are, I hope to see Obama packing his bags in a short while. . . . . . . . . . .and not on YET ANOTHER vacation, but in a move to his other home.
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Mikeil305
Posted on October 18, 2012 at 11:24pmI wouldn’t blame religion for your social struggles. I have friends from all walks of life. Just know when and with who to have religious discussions. Some people are open, others aren’t.
Plus, there’s always some good Christian girls looking for the bad boy.
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MemphisViking
Posted on October 20, 2012 at 10:11pmAll of creation is evidence of God.
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GodFearingAtheist
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 9:14amThis is not a report card, just more BS to sift through while trying to find the middle ground of common sense and maintain respect for American traditions, no matter what you believe – or don’t.
Why does Osamabama get a N/A for definition of religious freedom? It’s quite obvious, to me anyway, what he believes (narcisisim), despite his claims to be a christian.
the Secular Coalition for America (SCA) does not represent all of “us”. Atheists are different as much as Christians. I will vote for Romney, not because he is a Christian/ Morman but because I believe he is a decent man who walks his walk, and more important, one hell of a good business man.
Obama? ……what a lying grifter, POS. BTW, Nice ring obama. I see right through you.
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termyt
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 9:04amWe were founded as a secular nation, that is true. But “Secular” does not mean “Atheist.” A secular nation is one that does not hold any one religion as preferred over another, that we may all worship God (or deny His existence) as our own conscious dictates. It does not mean that atheism is the national religion, as SCA would seem to want us to believe.
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jrc99
Posted on October 19, 2012 at 3:16amWrong! We were founded on Christian Principles. There is no evidence anywhere to prove that the US was founded on secular humanism. In fact it’s a hoax.
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vaman
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 8:58amI would prefer someone who uses rational, intelligent thought processes to govern, rather than someone who is going to ask advice from a fictional character and pass judgment on others because of their personal superstitious beliefs.
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ChrisDiamond
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 2:48pm@VAMAN
Have you ever heard Christopher Hitchens talk about what religion empowers people to do with regards to evil? I won’t do a terrible injustice to the brilliance of his arguments by trying to restate them here, but would encourage you to search him up on youtube and listen to some of his debates and comments.
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Bohump
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 8:58amThe Atheist’s,.. Alway’s Vote for the GODLESS, ,.. “Gee” how Hard was that to Figure Out ?
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conservativemom99
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 8:57amIf Romney scores an F with athiests, then he’ll definitely get my vote! Can I get an Amen?
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Gin_Ichimaru
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 9:20amAmen!!! Halelujah!!! Praise the lord!!!!!
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FAITH47
Posted on October 20, 2012 at 2:28pmAmen!Amen!Amen!Amen!Amen!
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anAmericanVet
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 8:56amSo, according to this scorecard, secualr people are ignorant of America’s history.
Anyone that researches the founding fathers, has read the Federalist Papers, looked up the verbage of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution in a 1750 – 1828 dictionary (to learn what the words meant to them at that time) will KNOW that they believed the United States to be a “religious” nation. Religion – meaning in 1789 – “the Christian faith, and any other false religion”.
Anyone arguing that America was designed as a secular nation simply does not know history. But then why should they, they have been taught by this sorry state of public schools.
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justangry
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 9:38amCan you please reference the sections you’re referring to?
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ChrisDiamond
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 1:46pm@AnAmericanVet
First, thank you for your service. I mean that with the utmost sincerity.
“Religion – meaning in 1789 – “the Christian faith, and any other false religion”.
You do realize that, “any other false religion,” could be construed as including Christianity as a false religion…? If they did not intend for the insinuation to be that Christianity is likewise a false religion, would they not have stated, “The Christian faith, or some false religion,” without the conjunctive ‘and any” in there?
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justangry
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 8:55amCan anyone tell me why the ones that received the worst grades from atheists are the worst in terms of God’s law?
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bpodlesnik
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 10:52amBeing the most secular candidate is not something I would be proud of.
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CHUBADAMS
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 8:49amTo speak about your faith is “to witness”. I find that Atheists have a stronger witness regarding their non-belief than most Christians have about their belief. Why? “If you are not with me, you’re against me”.
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johnjamison
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 8:58amThey need to be called what they are not atheist They are anti-Christian is most forms and anti-religious in all forms. They are an embodiment of anti-1st amendment and are not called on it.
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ChrisDiamond
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 2:38pm@ChubAdams
From my experience, atheists tend to attack the arguments regarding religion, and very rarely attack the believer. Christians, on the other hand, either do not understand their faith and religion well enough to make cogent refutations, or lack the skills in argumentation to provide much more than ad hominem attack and vitriol toward the atheist. It seems to be almost completely beyond them that I could even claim to love with my whole heart, or to be moral, since I denounce the likelihood of the existence of God, and denounce it quite strongly. The truth is that I love Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Taoists, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witness, Branch Davidians, secularists (ad infinitum)… because we are all human beings. We all have to struggle through this crap together, and I would much rather do it all amicably, in peace, and with sympathy and compassion for each other… but many times here, you’re left with little option but to “unload” on Christians who attack you, even though their attacks are often pathetic, illogical, straw men, red herrings, or nearly wholly unintelligible.
@JohnJamison
From your statement and attack it is easy to deduce that it is, in fact, you who hate the 1st amendment. I DEMAND that you keep your right to worship whomever, however, wherever and whenever you want precisely because I demand to keep my right to not worship at all… and to think you’re wasting a lot of time and energy worshipping nothing.
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justangry
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 8:49amHmm, The guy that gets the best grade from atheists is the only one that doesn’t want to bomb people. Go figure. Neocons suck!
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00100111
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 10:16amOh NOEZ! Its teh NeoCawnz!
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bpodlesnik
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 10:43amYou’re right. He much rather supports people murdering babies through abortion.
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Individualism
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 10:53amObama and Romney support abortion
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justangry
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 11:07am@bpodlesnik, The candidate I supported would have let the issue of abortion be handled by the states as per the 10th amendment effectively over turning Roe v. Wade overnight. Something Romney said he wasn’t interested in doing.
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danettekientz
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 8:48amAmerican was not founded on secular beliefs. We were founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs. The congress actually published an American Bible to be distributed to all schools! They published about 200 of them with government money. Read real history, not the fake stuff the secularists would have you believe, people!
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22AUTOMATIC
Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:09pmAbsolutely true. Our nation is the most prosperous and charitable nation in world history and is the only one founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs. Currently 252 million of our total 315 million identify themselves as Christian, non-denominational Christians, Jewish, or are children under 18 with Christian parents. In the 20th century more people were murdered than in all other centuries combined (165 million) and those responsible were Communists/Socialists/Nazis (anti-God & Occult) and radical Islam. That being said, American atheists are much different than those overseas (much more charitable- kind- moral) because of the environment they were brought up surrounded by. That’s the reason we’ve not had a “Hitler – Stalin – Mao – Lenin” rise up…..yet. Christianity should not be pushed by our government; I believe in absolute free will. We must, however, teach everyone that this amazing house we inherited was built with the tools of Christianity and by men/women who used the Bible as the blueprint (even those like Jefferson who weren’t born again realized the Bible’s positive influence on civilization).
http://vimeo.com/39816772
http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/33826735
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=204_1334864931
http://youtu.be/bls2D0jMK84
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22AUTOMATIC
Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:27pmAbsolutely true. Our nation is the most prosperous and charitable nation in world history and is the only one founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs. Currently 252 million of our total 315 million identify themselves as Christian, a non-denominational Christian, or are children under 18 with Christian parents. In the 20th century more people were extinguished than in all other centuries combined (165 million) and those responsible were mostly Communists/Socialists/Nazis (anti-God & Occult) and radical Islam. That being said, American atheists are much different than those overseas (much more charitable- kind- moral) because of the environment they were brought up surrounded by. That’s the reason we’ve not had a “Hitler – Stalin – Mao – Lenin” rise up…..yet. Christianity should not be pushed by our government; I believe in absolute free will. We must, however, teach everyone that this amazing house we inherited was built with the tools of Christianity and by men/women who used the Bible as the blueprint (even those like Jefferson who weren’t born again realized the Bible’s positive influence on civilization)
http://youtu.be/T5djPIzPe4U
http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/33826735
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=204_1334864931
http://youtu.be/bls2D0jMK84
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22AUTOMATIC
Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:41pmAbsolutely true. Our nation is the most prosperous and charitable nation in world history and is the only one founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs. Currently 252 million of our total 315 million identify themselves as Christian, a non-denominational Christian/Jewish, or are children under 18 with Christian parents. In the 20th century more people were extinguished than in all other centuries combined (165 million) and those responsible were mostly Communists/Socialists/S.S (anti-God – Occult – Marx/Darwin) and radical Islam. That being said, American atheists are much different than those overseas (much more charitable- kind- moral) because of the environment they were brought up surrounded by. That’s the reason we’ve not had a “Adolf – Stalin – Mao – Lenin” rise up…..yet. Christianity should not be pushed by our government; I believe in absolute free will. We must, however, teach everyone that this amazing house we inherited was built with the tools of Christianity and by men/women who used the Bible as the blueprint (even those like Jefferson who weren’t born again realized the Bible’s positive influence on civilization).
http://youtu.be/T5djPIzPe4U
http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/33826735
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LOTO
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 8:18amThis is not a report card only for atheists, it is information for all voters.
It gives information many would never know.
Looks like Romney is strong in this area.
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poorrichard09
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 8:12amHow about we just govern by the Constitution and the rights of ALL people will be preserved??
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irish_5
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 8:07amRomney received an F on aethiests’ report card? Surprise! Surprise! That guarantees my vote for Romney.
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justangry
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 8:53amGuaranteed my vote for Johnson, but let’s face it we had already decided. You were going to vote for the warmongering bishop anyway and I was going to vote for the candidate that will honor the Just War Theory of Christianity even though you’re a believer and I am not.
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kickagrandma
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 8:06amThere’s satan’s guide for voting, folks.
JESUS GOD, LORD, help! Thank YOU for loving us enough to wake us up, those of us who love YOU and who want to serve YOU with ever fiber of our being. Thank YOU for granting us courage, strength, love and joy as we stand with and for YOU this day. Help us be silent no more, LORD. Bathe us in the light of YOUR love, the wonder of YOU, as we put on the spiritual armor of GOD and go forth into a dark world that neither wants nor loves YOU. We do, LORD. Come walk with us. YOU ARE WELCOME here. In JESUS’ mighty name we do pray, amen.
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Tractorboy
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 12:01pmThanks Kickagrandma, that takes care of half my prayers for the day, lets keep those prayers coming for our republic. God Bless
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ChrisDiamond
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 2:45pmKickAGrandma:
Tsk, tsk, tsk… praying ‘outloud’ and ‘in public places’ are we? Liken to the Pharisees, hmm? Yes I recall quite clearly that Jesus taught against doing that.
It is tremendously saddening to see so many well-meaning people completely fooled by the machine called the American politik; owned by the banks and corporations, their misdeeds and evils funded through the theft of the American people, atrocities committed by them in our names, and a media complicit in making sure you believe these things are right and just, in the interest of ‘safety’ or security… yet you all stand behind one guy believing HE will change it all and seem to disregard his past, who owns him (and yes, he is owned as much as Obama is), and are willing to tolerate a similar slavery under Romney that you’re not willing to tolerate under Obama. How about we just do away with the slavery altogether?
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RightUnite
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 8:05amOh gee!! Surprise, surprise!!
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roach
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 7:57amGary Johnson is the only candidate worth voting for.
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danettekientz
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 8:49amRoach, your name suits you.
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kurtnut
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 8:55amThen go vote for him and keep your worthless opinions to yourself.
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vaman
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 9:03amHis opinion is not worthless because every vote for Johnson is a vote Romney is not getting, leading to an Obama victory perhaps. Think of Bush/Clinton. Ross Perot allowed Clinton to win. If Perot had not run, Bush would have had a second term. Perot voters were more likely to vote for Bush and Johnson supporters for Romney.
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00100111
Posted on October 17, 2012 at 10:19amDon’t worry, there’s not enough Johnson voters to really matter. Now go on back to 4chan.
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