Following today’s report on the increase in applications for U.S. unemployment benefits, CNBC’s Rick Santelli decided to take on the Obama campaign and its claim that the president has created “five million jobs.”
“You can slice it any way you want!” Santelli shouted in his inimitable style. “The president was sworn in in mid-January of ’09.”
“If I go back and look at nonfarm — and I have all the data! — actual nonfarm payrolls, the establishment survey, the headcount survey, and I take the 818 minus thousand from January,” he added, referring to the monthly job loss numbers the president encountered when he was inaugurated, “he wasn’t sworn in until the middle of the month. Do the math!”
“You know what the math is? It’s a push. It’s a push. There’s zero jobs created. It’s a push. If you look at the minuses and the pluses, it’s a push!”
By “push” Santelli means “null” and/or “draw,” that is, zero.
“So where do they get all these numbers and they’ll say, ‘well, they were going down for’ — listen: whether it’s [Chicago] Cub managers or the president, January of ’09 to today, throw out January, it’s a push, basically zero.”
CNBC reporter Carl Quintanilla looked both apprehensive and amused.
“Hopefully, people are smart enough to know where they’re getting that five million, Rick,” Quintanilla said, “great point.”
“They’re not counting the minus numbers,” Santelli explained. “If I don’t count what my family spends, I’m a rich guy!”
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Comments (110)
blackyb
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:44pmIf the Democrats are found to be cheating this election, the expense of re-counting and investigating should fall on the backs of those who did this, the Democratic committees and the back of Eric Holder because he is not helping get ineligible voters off the rolls. Holder is not doing his job that he is being paid to do by the people of this country. He should be fired, jailed and made to leave this country.
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gwc7311
Oct. 18, 2012 at 1:10pmI must disagree with that punishment. My preference would be-arrested, castrated, hung for treason and buried in the Indian Ocean near Bin Laden.
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Blitz
Oct. 18, 2012 at 1:16pmNot “if” but when.
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SocialistSlayer
Oct. 18, 2012 at 2:04pmI think they should all be tried for Treason – starting with obama and working our way down. No presidential pardons – they should be tried and if convicted the punishment should be public hangings !
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bleuze
Oct. 18, 2012 at 2:26pmObama’s Democratic headquaters in Houston, Brookyln, and Minia have alrady been found to voted twice (once in their state and the 2nd time in a battleground state – the only only one fired was the Houston person! Why!
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desertspeaks
Oct. 18, 2012 at 3:10pmwould you like to see the jobs obama has created? obama czars 38, Michelle Obama’s Staff 24, numerous trips for michelle w/daughters and friends! secret service details, catering, flights, hotels.. they are quite the job creators as long as it benefits the OBAMA’S!
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Shasta
Oct. 18, 2012 at 3:22pmThe democrats committed fraud in the election of Al Frankin and the state of Illinois admitted it, yet Senator Frankin was already sworn in, and somehow he is still a senator today. So don’t count on a recount.
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Just_Bubba
Oct. 18, 2012 at 4:34pmHolder (along with Hillary) should face a military tribunal / courts martial as enemy combatants and traitors in a time of war. High treason should be the charge and when they are found guilty of said treason they should both be hung by the neck until dead as provided by the UCMJ. No civilian law at all.
A firing squad would be OK too (Pick-up dragging is our choice out here in Bubba Land) It all depends on how you think justice is best served.
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Max jones
Oct. 18, 2012 at 4:48pmBLACKY….So. what pray tell can we do about it? Turn into shrill protesters? Go on strike? Write our congressman? shoot somebody? I plan on stealing all those pens in he the SS office.
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jimbobago
Oct. 18, 2012 at 5:31pmActually, Shasta, although Illinois is notorious for voter fraud, Senator Franken is from Minnesota.
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TruthDarts
Oct. 18, 2012 at 7:04pmMakes no difference how many R or Conservatives vote
WHY?
FACTS:
–HTML code is loaded onto voting machines & NEVER CHECKED FOR WHAT IT DIRECTS!
–Former Senator Chuck Hagel “R” Nebr. now works for OBAMA Admin. & his company owns/runs 60% of voting machines in this country.
–People might go to polls & not allowed to because absentee ballot will be checked out to their name (unbeknownst to Conservative/ “R” voter)
–Holder will NEVER file any case against VOTER FRAUD.
SUGGEST:
PRAY, PRAY, PRAY these people be exposed
& their devious plans FAIL in rigging election for BHO.
After all…GOD is the One TRULY in charge!
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bobdog19006
Oct. 18, 2012 at 7:23pmTruthdarts, I’m not a troll, but what you suggest just makes no sense and is clearly barroom talk.
There’s way too much crazy talk going around, particularly on the left. It doesn’t help to fan the flames.
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TruthDarts
Oct. 18, 2012 at 7:56pm@BobDog
As Glenn had at the very opening of “THE PROJECT” special,
“The individual is handicapped by coming face to face
with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.” – J. Edgar Hoover
I don’t frequent bars.
I frequent TRUTH.
FACT:
–Hagel was my Senator.
–Known fact he owns stock/co that has vote counting machines. Check it out.
–Check his BIO it says he works for Obama Admin.
–Know this a fact through previous office staff here.
–Check with ANY Election Commissioner of any county where they use fill in the box type voting machines. HTML code is NEVER CHECKED FOR WHAT IT DIRECTS…NEVER.
–Former Election Commissioner here always would say he could make the voting machines say anything he wanted…change one out of every 3 votes for “A” person to really be 2 votes for “B” person…etc.
I could go on but sometimes when you stick your head in the sand you are vulnerable.
TRUTH IS POWER.
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blackyb
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:41pmEvery conservative should have someone to take to the polls who votes conservatively and get this bunch of thugs and misfits out of our White House.
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overthecliff
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:40pmWhy hasn`t Romney figured this out? 5,000,000 jobs created but fewer people working? What kind of math is that?
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Dont-hate-on-me-2
Oct. 18, 2012 at 1:03pmHe already pionted out the workforce when he was talking about unemployment. and it is very clear that its not even a “push”. We have negative jobs created.
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jorskippy
Oct. 18, 2012 at 1:03pmRomeny has figured it out. Obama wants Americans dependent on the government. It is easier to take over a country and join in the One World leader crap that Obama wants. One job for each 6 people unemployed. That is awful. Advertising Food Stamps on TV. Wanting more people on government programs. People want jobs. People want to work. Obama worked in Community Action for too many years.
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BCanook
Oct. 18, 2012 at 1:13pmWould like to see someone – anyone – bring up the fact that 58% of Obama jobs are low wage.
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rolex1965
Oct. 18, 2012 at 1:25pmRomney still has one more debate…He needs to give ODUMMER a math lesson….Prove to the american ppl. that OBLUNDER has NOT created any jobs……
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blackyb
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:39pmIf any jobs were created it would be for their own party people. This is America and politics should have no preference over who is best for the job. They should have strick civil service tests, background tests and race, age and gender should not figure into it wherever possible. They are controlling who is hired and where and it controlls and guarantees they have a long dictatorship going. There done but hires, layoffs or firings and rehires so they can count the re-hires into the statistics of jobs created or filled.
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Max jones
Oct. 18, 2012 at 5:02pmThe government payrolls are larger…more IRS more FBI more EPA more, more big gov.. jobs– way fewer private sector. Either union or gov. nothing else is doing good. dead on plan right on schedule.
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TruthDarts
Oct. 19, 2012 at 5:27amBHO math
Person loses excellent paying job = 1 person less job.
Same person forced to get 3 parttime jobs = 3 persons landed NEW jobs.
Forget to deduct same 1 person lost job.
Net gain 4 jobs.
Repeat 250,000 times for each of 4 years = 4,000,000
Adjust for seasonal employment = add 1,000,000
TA-DAH = 5,000,000
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Gary_K
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:36pmI did find something barry is good for besides food stamps;
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/18/welfare-spending-jumps-32-percent-four-years/
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Shasta
Oct. 18, 2012 at 3:28pmGreat, now OBlamo has something else besides food stamp increases to be proud about.
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Gary_K
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:32pmThats what barry is, basically a zero, good for nothing.
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RJJinGadsden
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:31pmI wonder when Holder will send a SWAT team swooping into that studio?
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Zipit
Oct. 19, 2012 at 10:38amThey’re to busy right now with the Gallup folks!
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chips1
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:28pmIf you were employed by a company and were making enough to support your family, then got layed off, you will take any job to earn money. That job you manage to get at McDonalds, goes directly into the Obama “jobs created” list. The whole object is Obama’s goal to overthrow the U.S. Government. I say this because there isn’t one person in the world that could do so much wrong without it being “on purpose”.
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Max jones
Oct. 18, 2012 at 5:14pmCHIPS!… go to the head of the class grasshopper.
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elosogrande
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:27pmObama statistics are usually lies – sometimes they are completely true – but they are NEVER the complete truth. He lied…he lied…he lied!
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bobdiamond
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:29pmRick is the best, I’m surprised that the godfather of the tea party still has a job at left-wing CNBC. Read political commentary at: http://smallcraftadvisorychronicles.blogspot.com/
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KernelOfTruth
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:23pm“If I don’t count what my family spends, I’m a rich guy!”
… And there is the Obama strategy of lies, captured in a nice simple sentence.
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Ducky657
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:21pmThe only jobs Obama will ever create are the ones needed to administer O Bummer Care. What cracks me up is even CNN came out a few months ago and said the gains versus losses were basically a push! Unfortunately there are still too many Americans who listen to the progressive media (ABC, CBS, CNN, and ABC) for their news. You gotta love Santelli–I’ll bet the higher ups hate it when he does this!
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PaulreveresDarknight
Oct. 18, 2012 at 1:14pmHe makes you want to pump your fist and yell “get em, Buddy! Yeah”
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FightingBear
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:11pmThe last analogy is awesome! It simplifies it for even the dumbest among us. (I’d be willing to bet that even the Obama phone lady might be able to comprehend that.)
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AvengerK
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:21pmFinally someone calls Obama’s “5 million jobs created” bluff. We’re at a deficit of jobs. Obama hasn’t even brought back the jobs we lost in 2008/2009. He hasn’t “created” any jobs because job creation is growth not deficits.
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zorro
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:24pmYeah such a simple analogy and yet it really clears it up. It’s how I intend to describe it from now on.
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Oneirishman
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:47pmYo don’t yus go pushin on Bama, yo. He be in pres yo. Romney suc yo!
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Ben__Franklin
Oct. 18, 2012 at 1:37pmIts really sad, but the Obama-phone lady would still not get this even with that simple analogy. The lady does not pay bills. Obama takes care of dat, and he gonna do more!
What Obama needs to do to buy more of the stupid vote is to give free Obama-Teeth to these people.
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ultor-de-deus-exercitus
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:10pmA TIME TO CHOOSE 2012
Imagine a leader who fears God instead of one who thinks he is god.
Imagine $2 gas at the pump.
Imagine higher wages.
Imagine a world that respects us compared to the one that is now controlling us.
Imagine a China that fears us instead of owning us.
Imagine keeping more of the money you earn.
Imagine a declining national debt.
Imagine less people on welfare.
Imagine not being called a hater for calling radical Islam radical.
Imagine a world with fewer abortions.
Imagine people taking care of themselves instead of taking from others.
Imagine controlling your own future instead of your future being controlled.
Imagine being able to give to people who are thankful compared to being forced to give to people who think they are entitled.
Imagine a society of respect instead of a society of envy.
Imagine having respect for the creators and distain for the takers.
THE CHOICE IS YOURS. . . THIS TIME
Romney VS Socialism
LAST CHANCE AMERICA
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KernelOfTruth
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:21pmImagine a place where people are not afraid of hard work.
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TJSON
Oct. 18, 2012 at 1:02pmImagine the total dismantling of government regulations
Imagine an unregulated financial market
Imagine a country where industries can poison the air and water without fear of repercussion
Imagine not having health insurance
Imagine the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer
Imagine another war in the middle east
Imagine massive funding cuts for the schools your family members depend on for education
See, I can say things too. Assertion is not the same as argument.
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SITDOWNANDSHUTUP
Oct. 18, 2012 at 1:09pmImagine a place where you can speak the truth, and not be called a liar.
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Just_Bubba
Oct. 18, 2012 at 4:57pmImagine:
A world where self serving puds like tjson actually understand that there are no guaranteed outcomes for lazy pukes.
A world where logical arguments take the place of self-serving mindless regurgitation of things lib tards hear.
A world where the reason health care costs are escalating faster than my earnings can keep up is actually discussed.(lawyers and insurance against lawsuits)
A world where lib tards realize that poor people hire no one.
A world where gov’t doesn’t create needless regulations simply to justify their existence and hire more lackeys to enforce them.
A world where I didn’t pay taxes for failing schools.
A world where you could tell idots that they are in fact idiots without worry of PC.
A world where we simply turn the enemy to glass without a bunch of PC posturing. (You kill one of us we kill all of you.You don’t mess with us and we won’t mess with you.)
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Former Patriot
Oct. 18, 2012 at 6:08pmUltor- spot on! Sounds like you were describing 2008. Sadly I’ve hedged my bets. If voter fraud is bad enough the keep that obama a$$clown in power I’ll be departing this formerly great nation and taking my tax dollars with me. Bush wasn’t the best statistically, but much of the economic collapse blamed on him occurred starting the evening of Nov 6th, 2008. I wonder what happened that day (sarc)
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Reddbehrens
Oct. 18, 2012 at 7:15pmImagine a leader who doesn’t constantly lie, and who actually puts the country’s interests ahead of his own and his party’s.
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MAEBE
Oct. 18, 2012 at 9:06pmJust_Bubba you are my frickin’ hero….could not have said it better in response to tjson…..
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uptickusa
Oct. 19, 2012 at 12:44amGreat Theme
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razhunter100
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:09pmhttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-18/obama-pursuing-leakers-sends-warning-to-whistle-blowers.html
Obama Pursuing Leakers Sends Warning to Whistle-Blowers
Eric Holder, attorney general under President Barack Obama, has prosecuted more government officials for alleged leaks under the World War I-era Espionage Act than all his predecessors combined, including law-and-order Republicans John Mitchell, Edwin Meese and John Ashcroft.
The indictments of six individuals under that spy law have drawn criticism from those who say the president’s crackdown chills dissent, curtails a free press and betrays Obama’s initial promise to “usher in a new era of open government.”
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Silversmith
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:08pmFinally someone says it. It seems like such a thin ploy to count jobs created without counting jobs lost for a real picture of what is happening. This kind of accounting has to end or we will never see what our state of the union actually is. Shame on those who perpetuate this kind of lie of omission.
Silversmith
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huey6367
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:08pmNo kidding
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The-Monk
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:04pmFYI,
EtchASketch is a paid troll…
Don’t bother replying to it because that’s what it wants.
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SocialistSlayer
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:03pmGiven hell Rick !
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RodT82721
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:03pmThe thing that Mr. Santellli is forgetting, is that perception is reality to most uninformed voters.
So as long as the administration can produce their “filtered” or “adjusted” reports, and Barry can go out on the stump and claim 5 Million jobs he created, that’s all that matters.
Now if anyone in the media, like the NY Times, would instead of parroting the messiah’s claims, would actually tell the truth, maybe all the perception would be replaced with the real reality, not the lies of the administration.
Maybe if a Republican gains office, the media will go back to looking for truths again.
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Bonnieblue2A
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:42pmThe 47% of Obama’s taxpayer subsidized base doesn’t watch CNBC and have never participated in the stock market. Therefore, the truths Santelli has been speaking for years will never reach their ears.
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Max jones
Oct. 18, 2012 at 5:24pmMy landlord, 65 yr old white man is voting for obama again. he’s not aware of the socialist/communist connection or of the lies. He only gets news from msm. He really believes all the dumbo says…pitiful.
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culpeperminuteman
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:02pmMan, the Obama attack dogs are gonna eat this poor schmuck alive. They WILL NOT allow anyone to talk bad about them and get away with it. Just ask Jim Cramer. They virtually destroyed that guy in retaliation for him slamming the administration and they are gonna do the same thing to Rick Santelli.
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Apple Bite
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:02pm“If I don’t count what my family spends, I’m a rich guy!”
EPIC QUOTE OF THE YEAR.
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gyro
Oct. 18, 2012 at 11:57ammore fellows for msnbc to lay off — stop telling the truth guys if you want to keep your jobs !!
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thom1
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:23pmThere’s always room for another FOX type station on the air waves. Fair and balanced.
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contkmi
Oct. 18, 2012 at 11:57amYeah, the Obama administration seems not to know the differences between gross and net.
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johnjamison
Oct. 18, 2012 at 12:15pmFirst things first Obama never created anything, when you take from the tax payers and use their dollars its those who are paying into the system that are creating.
Secondly when you take money that people earned and give to those who don’t earn you’re cutting jobs and destroying the service industries. If the tax payers had more disposable income they would spend more on items and services thus create a damand and a need to employee people to fill that demand. Obama stole billion to pump into businesses that supported his 2008 elections all those businesses are belly-up or going belly up. Thoses billions did nothing but put us farther into debt.
Thirdly and most disappointedly is the fact Obama after stealing hundreds of billions and openly giving it to the people that donated the most to his 2008 election HE STILL HAS A CHANCE OF RE-ELECTION..That is a downright shameful the amount of ignorance it takes to achieve that……if this speak for the intellect of half this country it might be time to fly the stars and bars again..
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U.N.hater
Oct. 18, 2012 at 11:56amThis is what obama want’s for americans.http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/18/welfare-spending-jumps-32-percent-four-years/
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NDPINDNT
Oct. 18, 2012 at 11:56amMaybe be true, but if you take away all the temporary government jobs and food service job like working at Burger King or McDonalds, there would be a big negative number.
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