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Another Gaffe? Biden Says Lilly Ledbetter Act ‘Not a Big Deal’ in Terms of Equal Pay

Oct. 20, 2012 3:54pm
Joe Biden Says Lilly Ledbetter Act Not a Big Deal in Terms of Equal Pay in Florida

Vice President Joe Biden speaks to supporters during a visit to Lincoln Park Academy in Fort Pierce, Fla. on Friday, Oct. 19, 2012. (Photo: AP)

The Democratic Party has spent months pushing the narrative that Republicans are waging a “war on women,” whether the focus is 31-year-old Sandra Fluke and her subsidized birth control or Mitt Romney’s “binders full of women” remark.

Throughout the presidential campaign, President Obama has repeatedly cited the Lilly Ledbetter Act when asked about how he is rectifying unequal pay between men and women, touting it as one of the achievements of his presidency.

Obama added during last week’s presidential debate: “When Governor Romney’s campaign was asked about the Lilly Ledbetter bill, whether he supported it, he said, ‘I’ll get back to you.’  And that’s not the kind of advocacy that women need in any economy.”

But now, Vice President Joe Biden has somewhat contradicted the administration’s narrative, saying the act is actually “not a big deal in terms of equal pay.”

Speaking at a campaign event in Florida, the vice president explained:

Ryan voted ​against​ the Lilly Ledbetter Act.  All [it] said was if a woman finds out she’s been treated and treated wrongly– cheated in terms of her salary and benefits at work– that she’s able to sue from the moment she finds out.  That’s all it said.  Because they were locked out they said that if you didn’t learn within two years you were being cheated, then you’re out of luck.  But we changed the law.  It’s not a– it’s a big deal for women, but it’s not a big deal in terms of equal pay.  But it’s an important– and they couldn’t even support that.  Talk about being out of touch. [Emphasis added]

Biden clearly wasn’t trying to denigrate the act, but downplay it to say Republicans “couldn’t even support that.”  However, in stating it’s “not a big deal in terms of equal pay,” Biden appears to be undercutting the entire point of the bill– and any praise the president should receive for passing it.

Here is video of Biden’s remarks:

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Comments (54)

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  • GETLIFE
    Posted on October 21, 2012 at 8:34am

    Biden is not even trying to hide what he really thinks.
    I’d take him over Obama any day.

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on October 21, 2012 at 9:40am

      “All [it] said was if a woman finds out she’s been treated and treated wrongly– cheated in terms of her salary and benefits at work– that she’s able to sue from the moment she finds out.”
      Which is what I think is the current federal law.

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    • JonSigMan
      Posted on October 21, 2012 at 12:55pm

      @ DMERWIN

      You are correct, this law just opens the door for anyone (lawyers) to sue at any given point and time based on the last paycheck that supposedly compensated the “victim” regardless of when they truthfully felt as though they may have been paid unequally, The current Fed law allowed for 180 days, this one extends it to 2 years I believe, but it really doesn’t apply just to women, but to everyone, so I think they are playing it up toward women, but Joey B. let the cat out of the bag in a way, they didn’t really do anything for “women” per se, but are trying to claim that they did, sort of like claiming 5m jobs created, but not claiming the 5m lost leaving a net loss of 61k jobs….ya know? Just more BS for stupid people to believe.

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    • rickc34
      Posted on October 21, 2012 at 2:56pm

      Why did the choose Forward as their message, because the have driven as far as the can into the ditch and that is the only direction we can go now. And Biden needs to be in a nursing home for dementia patients, plus he has a load of Obama in his adult brief .

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  • Dont-hate-on-me-2
    Posted on October 21, 2012 at 12:32am

    Whatever happened to getting piad for what your worth, or how about getting piad for what you bring to the table. If I’m working a job in the same postion as a women and i produce more or do a better job I damn well better be piad better and if she does better she gets more. It is as simply as that. Live with it you communist pigs.

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    • Small_Craft
      Posted on October 21, 2012 at 8:36am

      The myth of women being paid less for the same work is perpetuated by excluding the number of hours worked. Women work fewer hours because of maternity leave and caring for elder parents. If you look at the number of hours worked, women, in many cases, are paid more than men for the same work. Google “damon koch small craft advisory” to read political commentary.

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  • TheBurningTruth
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 11:30pm

    Remember the news story a couple of months back that detailed the main Congressional offices that paid women HALF what they paid men? They were primarily DEMONCRATIC including Pigloski, Prince Harry and others. What you want to bet that Lilly Bedwetter (as someone else called it) exempts Congress?

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  • noslave
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 7:49pm

    i just placed the stupid bidens grining,i knew i’ve seen it someplace before,hed did the doggy dentures commercial?as for the lilly lardazz law the obama govt pays it women 18% less than their male counterparts??there hypocrites,like people giving you marriage advice,while there out there screwing around in their marriage??

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    • mend54jc
      Posted on October 20, 2012 at 8:41pm

      Out of the mouth flows the abundents of the heart. Their hearts are just being revealed like Glenn Beck said they will soon be proud to say we are socialist. And the only way we can we can shut them down is holding them to there words. He tried walking back from it but when you aren’t slow to speak your heart is all the more shown that is why we need God in our life. Keep putting Biden out there so America can truly see what they think

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 7:21pm

    Ledbetter did nothing. There were laws already there for this issue.
    34 lawsuits under Lilly bedwetter in all the time since. It was a giveaway to lawyers and a strawman issue used by dems to point to and say look what we did ……knowing their constituents are too dumb not to know it was already a law before then

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on October 20, 2012 at 7:49pm

      Obviously the law did something: it allowed suits that could otherwise not be filed.

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  • G.E.R
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 7:02pm

    @Tony

    It doesn’t take much greymatter to win debate against you ninnies

    @Wool

    I really hope you’re incapable of reproduction

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  • Enchanted
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 6:37pm

    he reminds me of a drunk uncle I used to have. You never know what he was going to say, but you knew it was always something stupid. biden is an idiot.

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  • Wool-Free Vision
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 6:20pm

    Oh, I see. When the subject is a democrat, we are supposed to infer their meaning, even when their words say something different. Only republicans are required to be literal, democrats can say whatever they want, because they don’t always mean what they say, they sometimes mean whatever it is they meant to mean… Does that sum up your ridiculous position?

    According to Biden’s own words at the debate last week, and he was VERY firm about this point, “I always say what I mean.” Was that another lie? (I know it was, but G.E.R. you can’t have it both ways)

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  • tonypro
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 6:09pm

    Wow gerber how do you keep that tiny little peanut brain from exploding coming to this site?

    I’ve been reading your comments, and you are so clearly unequipped, and so way out gunned in the
    intellectual battles here.

    I’m sure you would be more comfortable on one of your ocommie sites.

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  • G.E.R
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 6:00pm

    Watch the video. That’s not how it’s meant, it’s not a contradiction. And if you conclude anything else other than that, you are delusional.

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  • Wool-Free Vision
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 5:53pm

    FYI, those were his actual words. No one had to twist anything. Did you not read his remarks?

    Defining delusional: You are faced with two identical quotes, yet one of them is apparently “twisted.” I would like to point out the word “identical.”

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    Wool-Free Vision  
    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on October 20, 2012 at 9:06pm

      The above comment was originally made in reply to G.E.R.’s absurd argument that the author of this story somehow managed to dupe us all by taking Biden’s exact words and quoting him word-for-word.

      Apparently, G.E.R.’s comment was reported (by him) after he lost the debate by reverting to childish insults instead of defending his position.

      Just for the record.

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    • G.E.R
      Posted on October 20, 2012 at 11:10pm

      The conclusions you come to are really ret@rded

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      G.E.R  
  • MountainMamaw
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 5:11pm

    Everything Obama and Biden say is” inconsequentail pieces of nothingness” to most people I know.My husband and I have talked to people all over the country and we have yet to hear anyone say anything good about obamas polices.It is plain he does not like his job,only the perks that come with it.I’m sure Michelle with give him hell after he is voted out,because she will have to stop all these trips and lobster parties for their friends in the White House.

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  • coyote1hell
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 5:10pm

    The Two of the top Dems..Big “(o)” and Joey B…showed up in a Clown Car….

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  • Wool-Free Vision
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:57pm

    The gender gap is a myth. Democrats have to run on lies and propaganda because they can’t run on their records.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/04/16/its-time-that-we-end-the-equal-pay-myth/

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  • Gary_K
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:56pm

    October SURPRISE….

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obama-cuts-deal-with-iran-over-nukes/

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  • scrudge
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:52pm

    Ah Yes…. you know some V.P.’s are like SLINKIES… when you push them down the stairs it brings a smile to your face

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  • The-Monk
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:39pm

    I just read that Bill and that’s not what it says….

    What it says is that anyone who finds out they are being discriminated against, pay wise, can go back 2 years once they find out, to recover the difference in pay. (2 years only… so you’re out of luck if you’ve been with that company for 20 or 30 years and just find out)

    The word “woman” is no where in the Bill. Read it for yourself……

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-111publ2/html/PLAW-111publ2.htm

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    • CatB
      Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:49pm

      I understand that the Obama regime pays women on average 18% less than men … so I think they should sue …btw this is nothing but a handout to ambulance chasing lawyers.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:51pm

      So, if you’re a liberal woman, a liberal disabled person, a liberal young person or a black liberal the Democrats are lying to you.

      The changes made were to;

      Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990
      Rehabilitation Act of 1973
      Civil Rights Act of 1964
      Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967
      and the SCOTUS ruling in “Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co., 550 U.S. 618 (2007)”
      Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967

      That it…. you are being lied to. And the liberals “limited” you to only 2 years of back pay “if” you win your case.

      So why are you voting for Obama/Biden ????

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:56pm

      Hi CatB,

      Yep…. and did you know this;

      “36 Obama aides owe $833,000 in back taxes”

      http://news.investors.com/politics-andrew-malcolm/012612-599002-obama-white-house-staff-back-taxes.htm

      Also:

      ‘Almost Uniformly White’: How Diverse is Obama’s Campaign Staff, Really?

      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/almost-uniformly-white-how-diverse-is-obamas-campaign-staff-really/

      So all you liberal trolls out there that love Obama please explain these things.

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    • CatB
      Posted on October 20, 2012 at 5:09pm

      @ MONK .. exactly .. btw .. I tried calling the EEOC once after being passed over for a promotion — they brought in someone less qualified (a boy who’s daddy was friends with the owner) .. I can tell you that one phone call convinced me .. the government will do nothing to help you. I went out and got myself a “promotion” by finding a new job :-) You should have seen the look on his and the owners faces when the only person who REALLY knew how to run their computer system turned in her two weeks notice ;-)

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on October 20, 2012 at 6:52pm

      Good for you CatB !!!!

      Nicely done. : )

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      The-Monk  
  • indy1
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:38pm

    The lib media is too busy trying to Palinize Paul Ryan to note the daily verbal diarrhea dribbling out of Idiot Joe’s big mouth.

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    • CatB
      Posted on October 20, 2012 at 5:13pm

      Watch for Gloria Allred .. she isn’t going to go after Romney .. she is going to find some bimbo to lie about Ryan and try to Cain him.

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  • Mike Benton
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:29pm

    It’s like Mitt said in his joke at the Alfred Neuman dinner: “Every time Biden is seem on TV we have to add the line “This is Mitt Romney and I approved this Message”"

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:46pm

      The rumors have been circulating for years that Biden may be a closet drunk, has dementia or when he was in surgury for a brain anuerism… they nicked something of great importance and now he’s just a babbling fool. I’m going with babbling fool for whatever the reason that may have caused it (birth?)

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  • Mike Benton
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:26pm

    Add your comments

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  • Sy Kosys
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:19pm

    “Im Mitt Romney, and I approve this message”

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    Sy Kosys  
  • 1TrueOne55
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:16pm

    And that is why Republicans most likely voted against it since it really does nothing but line the pockets of Ambulance chasers like Gloria Allred.

    Women are paid an hourly rate equal to men but the problem is that they don’t work as many hours as men to get the same take home pay. When schools have sick children who do they call(?) 99% of the time it is the child’s mother. And then she has to take off work to take the child home or Dr. and that creates the argument for the Progressive Democrats to push the “EQAUL PAY” war.

    And if you say any different they drag out the Ledbetter legislation as a straw man or what I would call a false flag.

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  • The Third Archon
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:14pm

    “ANOTHER GAFFE? BIDEN SAYS LILLY LEDBETTER ACT ‘NOT A BIG DEAL’ IN TERMS OF EQUAL PAY”
    Well it’s not. I mean, it’s better than NOTHING, but it clearly hasn’t SOLVED the problem when women make roughly 7 to 8 tenths of what men make in comparable occupational positions.

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    • drbage
      Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:22pm

      The “gaffe,” if you will is that Obama, Biden, Reid, Pelosi, etal cite the law ad nauseum yet the women in their own offices earn an average of 18% less than the men doing the same job.

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    • Southerner01
      Posted on October 21, 2012 at 8:58am

      Actually, it is worse than nothing. It doesn’t help equal pay and it creates tons of new frivolous lawsuits.

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  • Wool-Free Vision
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:08pm

    Biden’s gaffe here was letting the truth slip out. His boss is the only one trying to convince people that the Lilly Ledbetter Act was some kind of great stride for women’s rights. I, for one, am sick of hearing the name Lilly Ledbetter. Just like the DNC, to take some inconsequential piece of nothingness and try to divert everyone’s attention to it while the nation is burning to the ground around them.

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  • The-Monk
    Posted on October 20, 2012 at 4:03pm

    “The Democratic Party has spent months pushing the narrative that Republicans are waging a war on women….”

    And just minutes ago on MSDNC they were discussing how to win women back over to their side.

    Seriously…. : )

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