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5 Things to Watch for During Tonight’s Foreign Policy Debate Showdown Between Obama & Romney

Oct. 22, 2012 7:30am Billy Hallowell

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(TheBlaze/AP) — Tonight, President Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney will face-off in the final debate of the 2012 presidential season. The subject? Foreign policy — an issue that has surprisingly risen to prominence in the final months of the campaign following attacks and protests that broke out in the Middle East on September 11.

5 Things to Watch for in Tonights Foreign Policy Debate Between Obama & Romney

President Barack Obama (R) greets Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney October 16, 2012 as the candidates arrive on stage for the second presidential debate at the David Mack Center at Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York. Credit: AFP/Getty Images

While the campaign has mainly been about jobs and the economy, with new developments and debate surrounding the Obama administration’s handling of Libya, the pundits and the public will be playing close attention tonight.

Below, find the five things to watch for when Obama and Romney debate tonight:

1. THE TIEBREAKER: Romney ran away with the first. The two parties either tied (or Obama edged him — depending on whom you’re speaking with) in the second. Stakes are high for their third and final showdown. Does that mean a repeat of last week’s ornery tone? Or will the gravity of the issues — war, terrorism, world leadership — inspire more dignified discourse?

2. REMATCH ON LIBYA: It sparked one of the hottest exchanges of the second debate. And there’s more to it than when Obama called the consulate attack an “act of terror” (i.e. like inconsistencies coming from the administration for days following the attack) Expect to hear about failed security, intelligence lapses and the Obama administration’s shifting account of what happened in Libya.

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3. ROMNEY’S TEST: The former governor and businessman knows how to turn companies around — but he has, in terms of his time spent tackling issues — limited foreign experience. He took hits for comments that ruffled British and Palestinian leaders last summer, and for hastening to criticize the administration’s response even as chaotic events were unfolding in Libya and Egypt. This debate is the prime moment for Romney to display the knowledge and judgment to lead on the world stage.

4. ON DEFENSE: Obama must defend four years of foreign policy. Expect Romney to accuse the president of weakening America’s world leadership by mishandling Iran’s nuclear ambitions, the pullout from Afghanistan, the Syrian conflict and the U.S. relationship with Israel. Can Obama rebut that criticism and focus on ending the Iraq War and killing Osama bin Laden?

5. A NEW MEME? First Big Bird. Then “binders full of women.” Watch Twitter to see whether another phrase catches fire while the debaters are still onstage.

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watchdogmom
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 9:42am
will the word “Constitution” be mentioned, judicial powers,subverting congress,no bowing,ridiculous rules of engagement,stop nationbuilding,stop foreign aid. Military stratedgy, stop kissing muslim ass. Invoke Major General Paul Vallely’s-”Lily Pad” stratedgy. America here needs taken care of, such as our borders sealed and secured or Nothing else will matter.

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- Brother Winston Smith
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 10:06am
  No. The democrat and republicans (same thing) no longer declare “war,” as the Constitution demands. So democrats and republicans (same thing) will CONTINUE their UNCONSTITUTIONAL, BLOODY, BANKRUPTING, FAILED foreign policy of welfare, warfare, propping up and tearing down.
  
  …and the inevitable blowback will continue for decades to come.
  (good thing the two leftists no longer have to deal with Ron Paul in debate, right?)
  
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- Gold Coin & Economic News
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 10:12am
  Obama will get his clock cleaned tonight. His foreign policy is a mess and if Romney just hammers him on Libya it’s all over, especially since even Candy Crowley admitted Romney was right in the second debate when she defended Obama:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igCsKGXWacI
  
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- WakingSheep
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 10:33am
  Constitution ha! Federal reserve ha!
  The republicrats have no clothes!
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 12:01pm
  Indeed, unless this “October surprise” happens between now and tomorrow, I can’t see the president recovering.
  
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- Michael61
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 4:06pm
  Easy strategy to win the debate. According to Aaron Klein investigative journalist, 770 WABC:
  
  Lie #1. THERE WAS NO CONSULATE. Benghazi “consulate” is not an official consulate, but a secret mission by CIA operatives. That’s why there were no usual Marines security. It was guarded by a few Libyan soldiers and a private American security firm.
  
  Lie #2. THERE WAS NO RIOT. It was not a consulate but a CIA operation center arming Libyan, Syrian, Jordanian, whatever, militants, INCLUDING AL QAEDA militants, all over Middle East. Something went wrong, and our spooks were killed by one of their partners – militias, or by one of their competitors, or by Iranians, or… who knows…
  
  That’s why nobody sent QuickResponseTeam with helicopters to help them… which were just an hour away in Italy… sending QRT would be an admission of illegal operations…
  
  That’s why the White House lied for weeks about some mythical spontaneous riot in Benghazi… Nonexistent riot in front of nonexistent consulate…
  
  This is Obama’s Iran-Contra in development… Run by one of the original Iran-Contra guys, btw… Stay tuned…
  
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- TJSON
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 5:18pm
  @CJMamaJones
  
  Thank you for your thoughtful post. I find a parallel between what you are describing and my own feelings for the war in Iraq. I found that my tax dollars were going to uses that I did not believe in whatsoever, things that were immoral. I think I can understand why you wouldn’t want to pay for contraception, from this perspective.
  
  However, I disagree with the previous commenter’s suggestion that I am not capable of having a reasonable discussion on the subject. It is a difference of opinion that does not require one side or the other to be ignorant.
  
  From my perspective, I believe that everybody should have access to healthcare. I also believe that contraception is a crucial part of healthcare, and that everybody should have access to it. If the state doesn’t mandate it, then millions of people will lose access to important care and have their quality of life diminished.
  
  The very fact of living in a society requires that you are willing to compromise. If the nation decides (through an election) that health insurance should cover contraception, would you be willing to compromise with the wishes of the majority?
  
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- MIBUGNU2
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 5:36pm
  Romney to HAMMER O’Bumbles for being Incompetent..
  This total ROOKIE administration is a DISASTER……..
  on all points, but bumbles is a GOOD LIAR and he has
  a LOT of STUPID LIBERALS that carry his water………
  
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RushEcho2
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 9:32am
Again, we are fasting and praying for a great show of Conservatism.
“Conservatism wins every time it is tried”, says Rush Limbaugh

The Creator, Jehovah God is in control and answers our humble prayers. .!.

If the other side would pray, they would have half a chance, but they don’t have.
Winning the ‘debate’ on ‘points’ is immaterial when it comes to revealing TRUTH.

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- AZfreeman
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 10:44am
  Liberal/Progressive/Dems care ONLY about winning. This is just another sports event for most of them. Many are so far gone they can’t see or really care about the truth, substantive issues or American values. Never mind explaining the reasons to cut funding to public television…just throw out the word ‘big bird’ and they will listen. Never mind explaining why taxpayers shouldn’t fund birth control and planned parenthood…just throw out ‘war on women’ and they will listen. Progressives have reached their goal of dumbing down the population through the Union agenda and NEA public schools. So, don’t look for important issues to be discussed tonight. Look for silly catch phrases which will be on a 4th grade level. The goal will be ….that was kool, I’ll vote for him.
  
  “America deserves the fate we have stood silent and allowed happen” ..rf
  
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- TJSON
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 3:43pm
  Please explain why taxpayers shouldn’t fund birth control. I’m perfectly willing to listen, but I haven’t heard a coherent argument that isn’t “because god.”
  
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- CJMamaJones
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 4:39pm
  Attn TJSON —
  Birth control is covered under most peoples private health policies — and therefore covered by private money (as in premiums) — When the government steps in and buys birth control and abortion with taxpayer dollars, it undermines the individuals rights of choice… Do I get to choose where my tax dollars go? only if I can convince the majority to vote my way or am willing to fight up to the Supreme Court to protect my tax dollars from being spent on things I don’t believe in….
  
  The orginal argument of this campaign “season” is that the Catholic church does not support any form of birth control – per their belief system – it’s a matter of principle… and while I know many Catholics don’t follow that rule, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s a rule with them.
  THEREFORE – the Catholic church does not feel that it should pay for the birth control NOR should it pay for the premiums that pay for the birth control
  
  the main point is – that if you don’t believe in a thing – why should you have to pay for that thing?
  
  I’m sure you can argue that same point on many issues — and if you understand the Constitutions stand on the scope of government, there are many things that should be taken back from the government & put in the hands of the people.
  
  AND quite honestly, I think the people should be more attentive to government … AND more attentive to the needs of their fellow citizens. How many of your neighbors are you helping?
  
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- conservative510
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 6:11pm
  CMama: I believe it’s a human rights issue. At the very least, if an unborn baby has a heartbeat and brain activity which happens at 6 weeks, it’s a human life with the same rights as anyone else. And I don’t want to pay (via my tax dollars) to have that life terminated. That’s why I agree we should remove public funding from planned parenthood. I’m all for helping people with health needs at organizations that don’t perform “contraception” (birth control by terminating human life). I don’t believe in that, and I don’t want to pay for it. I have a right to believe that as an American and a citizen of planet Earth.
  
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jhubbard
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 9:31am
The one main thing I want to know is just what Obama meant when Obama thought his microphone was off and he told Medvedev (in their March 26, 2012 meeting) that he would “have more flexibility” to deal with issues like missile defense after the november elections, and asked Medvedev to pass the info along to Putin.

According to Reuters “President Barack Obama was caught on camera on Monday assuring outgoing Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that he will have “more flexibility” to deal with contentious issues like missile defense after the U.S. presidential election.

Obama, during talks in Seoul, urged Moscow to give him “space” until after the November ballot, and Medvedev said he would relay the message to incoming Russian president Vladimir Putin.” — http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/26/us-nuclear-summit-obama-medvedev-idUSBRE82P0JI20120326

So…is Obama planning on further weakening the U.S. by caving on deployment of the European missile shield? Can our allies no longer depend on us if Obama gets elected? God I hope Romney asks him about this one…..

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- Cavallo
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 9:47am
  And what could anyone do about it if Obama decided to unilaterally disarm the entire American nuke deterrent? If he decided to do anything at all, what could anyone do about it? Impeachment? That’s a laugh. Good luck in getting the Senate to convict. A second term Obama can do anything he pleases, constitutional or not.
  
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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 1:44pm
  CAVALLO
  That depends upon whether the Republicans can take a majority in both houses in November.
  Hopefully it won’t come to that if Mitt wins.
  
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- seriouslywhy
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 1:54pm
  JHubbard…have you not seen 2016 Obama’s America? OF COURSE Obama want’s to further weaken America! We all know what he meant…after he’s re-elected (notice no question from O that he would be re-elected) he would be FREE to do whatever he wants to do…including disarming America. Please people – if you haven’t seen the movie…do so. It’s very enlightening!
  
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Tigress1
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 9:30am
I disagree that the 2nd debate was a “tie”. Romney won that debate clean and clear IN SPITE OF the moderator interfering. Romney’s SUBSTANCE was clear, open and honest, while Obama had NO SUBSTANCE. His mouth was moving but nothing of substance was coming out.
Tonight, the media is DESPERATE. Even if a Romney victory is obvious to anybody with one brain cell, the media will say it was an Obama win or at least a tie. Ignore the pundits after the debate if you haven’t made up your mind yet. Go with who YOU think won! The media’s purpose is to mislead you.

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- OBAMANATIONOFDESOLATION
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 9:39am
  Romney may have won but Obama didn’t lose.
  
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- WakingSheep
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 10:35am
  Neither won!
  Economic debates without mentioning the fed or it’s manipulations of our currency!
  Republicrat FAIL
  
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Eastinfection
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 9:26am
The photo on the Blaze home page for this story ought to be of great interest to OSHA….
Considering it violates several workplace safety standards enacted by the Feds…..

This is another photo from that day…

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.deseretnews.com/images/article/midres/1023779/1023779.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765613155/Debate-moderating-a-thankless-job.html&usg=__sDsoBStzB8fDUC_lMACCaXkFGtE=&h=405&w=600&sz=56&hl=en&start=0&sig2=bU6pqyeYbiOnduP1otEaTg&zoom=1&tbnid=QcnkU77g4i74VM:&tbnh=139&tbnw=221&ei=XUiFUMrMOITk8gSbxYHACQ&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=134&vpy=91&dur=4228&hovh=184&hovw=273&tx=101&ty=143&sig=106843936989629192850&page=1&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:77

Or are all those fines just for non- union small business contractors like myself?

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- Cavallo
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 9:51am
  Yes.. If you have friends in the Politburo you can bypass the restrictions that are for the little people.
  
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Dismayed Veteran
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 9:19am
I want Romney to come out Presidential. He needs to draw clear lines about what he will do and what he expects/plans for the end results. I think voters want to know what he is going do since we all know what Obama has done.

I would offer up that Romney does have foreign affairs experience albeit in only one area. As the person who lead the turnaround of the Salt Lake Olympics, he had to deal with representatives of countries and the OIC. I think there was a lot of negotiations going on because of the dismal state of the US Olympic organizers. This is certainly more experience than Obama brought to the table in 2008. I also suspect that in his role at Bain Capital, he dealt with foreign business and governments.

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turbo
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 9:08am
Ok Romney, we’ve seen enough charming and pleasant. Tonight is a hostile takeover!
Show us how to do some tough business, because busting up the bankrupt FUBAR federal government will be a task like to other. Set the example for the entire world to follow.
Don’t hide from conservatism and reverence of holy God. Embrace it, shout it, OWN IT!
Show the country what a demagogic reprobate Obama truly is. Tell his supports that if you support Obama, then you become what you vote for.
And do all of this with the love of Jesus Christ flowing though you.

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- WakingSheep
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:45am
  He’s too busy attacking china about their currency manipulations to look at our own.
  The Federal Reserve!!!!!!!!!!!
  
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DeOppressoLiber
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 9:02am
Energy independence is a key factor in building a solid foreign policy. It will give the US freedom of maneuver in what it wants to do or not do in the world. We will not be beholden to the middle east.

Ask Dear Leader if he gave anti aircraft missiles to Al Qaeda, and who will take the blame if a 737 gets shot down here CONUS. Ask the Libyan op if they have 100% accountability of the SA-7

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/obamas-libyan-war-leads-to-first-ever-sam-attack-on-israeli-chopper/

A Hudson High study that is very good

http://tarpley.net/2011/03/24/the-cia’s-libya-rebels-the-same-terrorists-who-killed-us-nato-troops-in-iraq/

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GilbertAcct
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 8:57am
Just like Romney in the last debate consistently tried to out-Democrat Obama on the economy and domestic policy… in the next debate you will see Obama trying to out-Republican Romney on foreign policy. This is a recurring theme among the two parties, and no matter who we choose in November, we will see bigger, more intrusive government, huge deficits, and more war.

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- WakingSheep
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 1:27pm
  Yup,
  
  Oh but bush was just sooooo great!
  He was sooooooo Constitutional!
  
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- WakingSheep
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 1:29pm
  That’s why the republican hound dog lawyers tried their best to keep Johnson off the ballot.
  
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Wyoming
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 8:29am
Why haven’t we heard a word about SECURING OUR BORDERS? Is that now a political hot potato? Would that risk losing the Latino vote?

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- Brother Winston Smith
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 10:19am
  Shhhh… Callate! The leftist democrats and leftist republicans have NO INTENTION of deporting ANYONE (which is, ironically… CRIMINAL). The thousands of American dead BECAUSE OF THE INVASION are just… collateral damage… to the MANY, MANY political benefits to illegal immigration.
  
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Penn
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 8:20am
I hope someone tells Romney he should begin the next debate like this: “Before we get started, I want everyone to know that Ms. Candy Crowley has publicly admitted she was wrong when she said that obama referred to the Libyan incident as a terrorist attack in his Rose Garden comments. In her own words, in an interview with Senator John McCain, Ms. Crowley asked him why it took the administration 17 days to give a “sort of definitive statement” on the attacks.”
Personally, I’d like to know why obama was so quick and confident to ask Crowley to “check the transcript” and how quickly she responded, it looked like, without even looking down? Did she have the transcript in front of her? Why would she? I smell a couple of rats, a fat one and one with big ears.

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 8:32am
  PENN, Dittos to that!
  
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- invisible
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 8:41am
  You are so right. If you listen to Obama and his pundits explain something – they always say they’ve discussed that last week. Well, me, who watches a lot of t.v. never saw an explanation. Why does Obama get away with saying blah,blah,blah and no one – NO ONE – pursues a more clear answer. We all know the general public doesn’t even know what’s going on. I cringe when I watch these reporters ask citizens to identify a picture of a prominent person and they have no idea -same with policy questions. They just know they’re for Obama but they don’t know what the reporter is talking about when he voices something in the news. Give me an uneducated high school person everytime. The college ones I worked with are way out of touch.
  
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- Augydoggy
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 9:10am
  Oh Your saying that the Lefty Dumbocrates would cheat? Really now.
  
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- lamba44
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 9:17am
  lmao, I agree, I like that two rats, a fat one and one with big ears!!!! I believe the majority of Americans know what a cess-pool of gutter rats are bumbling around in Washington and around the country and are ready to see them go back down into the gutters where they belong.
  
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- BehindBlueEyes
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 9:56am
  Penn
  I picked up on that too. Obama immediately said “get the transcript”. I think the whole thing was a scripted trap.
  
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justangry
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 8:12am
Yeah, I’ll pass. It’s obvious where these men stand on foreign policy.

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- Jarhead 88
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 8:57am
  Good for you PaulTot.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 9:10am
  “Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone.” Ayn Rand
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 9:37am
  “The problem is that when you scratch a cynic you’ll find a disappointed idealist underneath.”
  
  -George Carlin
  
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- Individualism
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:00am
  Obama: We must appease the Islamists and put America last
  
  Romney: We must appease the Zionists and put America last
  
  Johnson: America First and no appeasement.
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 12:02pm
  Johnson is a big government progressive just like Ron Paul :P
  
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- MIBUGNU2
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 5:42pm
  The Cheat, Lie and Steal administration will do ANYTHING !!
  
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jackact
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 8:01am
1.) Bush did it.
2.) Susan Rice did it.
3.) Hillary did it.
4.) The cartoonist did it.
5.) Eric Holder didn’t do it…..

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RepubliCorp
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 7:59am
Romney should run this ad http://www.hulu.com/watch/40609

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- Individualism
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:09am
  aka vote for ron paul, rand paul or gary johnson, romney would be Rockefeller.
  
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rEt_fiELdoP
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 7:55am
Agree with Gonzo… IF, and that is a big word with huge implications, if foreign policy was a weight that “tipped the scale”, BO never had that experience. During the second debate, he alluded to the fact that the Gov didn’t understand or hold any experience in that department (to be clear about what I’m referring to: foriegn policy). What a bunch of junk IF you know what I mean…

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Gary_K
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 7:52am
” 3. ROMNEY’S TEST: The former governor and businessman knows how to turn companies around — but he has, in terms of his time spent tackling issues — limited foreign experience. He took hits for comments that ruffled British and Palestinian leaders last summer, and for hastening to criticize the administration’s response even as chaotic events were unfolding in Libya and Egypt. ”

This is a non issue. When would any sane person care what the British or Palestinians think when someone speaks the truth? We all know what went down in Libya was a sham to further the globalist communist agenda.

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chucksue351
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 7:51am
foreign policy, mind your own business, we have enough problems of our own

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Lemonade Grandma
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 7:46am
Gov. Romney – Ask President Obama WHY the cover-up in Libya? Is it the Arms Deal to Syria or an Attempted Kidnapping to trade Amb. Stevens for the Blind Sheek?

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GP100
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 7:46am
Don’t forget the Mexican disaster known as Fast-n-Furious.

This is rich fodder for Romney if he does his homework. Aside from killing bin Laden, Obama’s foreign policy has been an abject failure.

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Gary_K
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 7:43am
6) miss barry’s lies that hamas, the muslim brotherhood, al quaida are nice guys just looking for democracy in the middle east.

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NancyBee
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 7:42am
I’ll be praying for you……….Governor Romney..

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chucksue351
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 7:40am
they are both bought and paid for by the elite of elite, just vote for romney and then in four years get someone else and so on and so on, don’t let anyone have 8 years for awhile, the main damage is done in the second term, so deprive them of that opportunity

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- SCREW-WINDOWS
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 7:49am
  Another view is the more you put on the Government benefits package the more the taxpayer is on the hook for makes as much sense as offering early retirement.
  
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 7:40am
Here is my new phrase to use:

“Obamafied” – the moment when you show how utterly bankrupt your ideology, morality and character are in additon to being shown as completely insane.

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TelepromoterNChief
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 7:39am
I’m so sick and tired of all this.
Obama is going to win.
Race is too close for Romney in all honesty to win.
It’s over.

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- Cavallo
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 9:56am
  Depends on the level of fraud that we will see this time around and it also depends on the motivation of legit voters as well as the bias of the polls you are seeing that it is saying that it is that “close”. Romney does need a substantial victory to overcome the fraud, but I am not convinced that it is over yet. Tonight might be make or break time.
  
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Gonzo
Posted on October 22, 2012 at 7:39am
If Obama’s argument is that we can’t elect a POTUS with no foreign policy experience…he is admitting his own election was a mistake. Reagan never held office higher than Governor when he ran and he did pretty well.

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on October 22, 2012 at 8:31am
  GONZO, Gotta agree with you on that. After watching Carter flounder around with a then weak and unstable Iran. The Soviet Union stepped up their activity. But later while I was still in the Army, and even though Bush 41 was in office, the Soviet Union collapsed because of what Reagan started. After spending 6 1/2 years in Europe and the first tour very close to the Czech border, then the East German border, that really brought us all some relief. Just seeing the Berlin Wall coming down on TV brought chills down my spine.
  
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