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Charles Krauthammer Calls the Final Debate: ‘It’s Unequivocal – Romney Won’

During his post-debate analysis on Fox News, syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer argued GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney won Monday night’s final presidential debate unequivocally, saying “Obama went very, very small — shockingly small.”

“I think it’s unequivocal — Romney won,” Krauthammer said. “And he didn’t just win tactically but strategically. Strategically, all he needed to do is basically a draw. He needed to continue the momentum he’s had since the first debate.”

He continued: “Tactically, he simply had to get up there and show that he’s a competent man and somebody you can trust as commander-in-chief, a man who knows every area of the globe and he gave a lot of interesting extra details…which gave the impression that he knows what he’s talking about.

Watch the clip via Fox News here:

But there’s a third level, Krauthammer explained. He said “Romney went large” while “Obama went very, very small — shockingly small.”

He also pointed out that Romney made a “strategic decision” not to aggressively go after the president on Libya and Syria or other areas so Obama couldn’t accuse him of being a “Bush-like war monger.”

“Now, I would have gone after Obama on Libya with a baseball bat, but that’s why Romney has won elections and I have never even contested them,” Krauthammer added.

What Romney did concentrate on is the “big picture,” he explained.

“The high point of that debate for Romney is when he devastatingly leveled the charge of Obama going around the world on an apology tour. Obama’s answer was: ‘ask any reporter and they will tell you it wasn’t so.’ That’s about as weak an answer you can get,” Krauthammer said.

As Obama attacked Romney with petty charges like investing in companies in China, Romney stayed focused on the real issues in the debate, according to Krauthammer. Obama’s attacks were something you would expect in a race for “city council,” he concluded.

“That’s not what you expect from the president.”

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Comments (329)

  • Globmgmt
    Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:11am

    Anyone can make a case as to who won the debate. But one thing is certain – Obama didn’t do anything enough to change the momentum shift of the race towards Romney.

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    • Akridgerunner
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:31am

      I agree completely on this. Romney refused to dip to Obamas level and, as usual, was very civil.

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    • sickofitinca
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:31am

      I liked it when Romney said that the President’s attacks was not discussing the issues, or something like that. Good line.

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    • Libermerican
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:31am

      I dunno. A lot of “ig-nant” (ignorant) peeps watched that debate, and might be swayed by Obama’s aggressive presentation of lies (they don’t watch the fact checkers).

      For informed Americans, Romney looked Presidential. For the white trash, and all the other trash in this country, you know, dumber than a box of rocks, they’ll probably believe Obama’s lies again. It’s expected.

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    • Libertarian
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:32am

      Obama certainly won the debate. He controlled the message and almost took the message Romney was expressing.

      Not sure which debate Krauthammer was watching. I say this with absolute fear that the Marxist might pull off the election in 2 weeks.

      If this election is lost to the Marxist-in-Chief we will NEVER get it back. Was Ezra Taft Benson’s summation of Nikita Khrushchev accusation that Americans are stupid, that we will accept small doses of Socialism? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTkxQQXIWj4 In 2 weeks we will see if this statement is precognition.

      God help us

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    • Libermerican
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:35am

      LIBERTARIAN gimme that nick :) I settled for this one, gratz on getting the prize nick…

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    • Libertarian
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:41am

      lol thanks

      I am an avid Beck fan.

      Thank you Mr. Beck for inspiring me to run for office! I won the primary in a Democrat district in your home State! We will see how it turns out in November!

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    • TomSawyer
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:51am

      Romney accomplished at least three things:
      1) Told the American public he was not going to go to war with Iran.
      2) Focused the voting decision on economic policy by agreeing with Obama’s foreign policy mostly. He did not say or contrast any foreign policy in a way that would make a head line, and the only contrast he made was economic were Romney is more respected.
      3) Showed an in depth understanding of foreign policy.

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    • Puddle Duck
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:55am

      Cheer up Libertarian…how Charles described the debate is exactly the way It struck me…Obama came off as a snarky boor , bereft of real substance and worst of all left bleating the same old tired plaitudes he’s been barking about for the past 2 years. He came off looking very small as Charles rightly surmized. Even a dullard such as myself got that impression just by reading the play by play. Having stomached a number of key video snippets (post debate) only cements that reality further.

      Good luck in the coming election and never give up while there is still any chance at all….it only takes one to get the ball rolling….look at Beck for example. I was watching him back when he had his HNN show and now look where he is….One man can inspire many.

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    • AmericaMustBeFree
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 1:08am

      If anyone acted more Presidential it was definately Romney and I loved his closing remarks! He genuinely cares about all American’s!

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    • Libermerican
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 1:18am

      Good luck Libertarian, glad to hear it, please let us know how it goes. I for one am interested. Even if you don’t get it this time, it’s the fight that’s worth fighting. Fingers crossed :)

      “All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.” — Thomas Jefferson

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    • Puddle Duck
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 1:56am

      I would not have ruled out War with Iran….not until they completely dismantle/destroy their nuke weapons program AND drastically scale back support of terrorist groups worldwide. It’s high time we put some real heat on the Iranian regime.

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    • sillyfreshness
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 2:08am

      Be ready for the “chosen people” ran Marxist Media to declare Obama the hands down winner. The “chosen people” ran media will do whatever it takes to rig this election. Even if it means declaring Obama as winning the election weeks before it’s even happened.

      http://www.prisonplanet.com/133628.html

      You can trust commies about as much as you can trust rats. You know what you have to do with rats when they infest your house.

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    • survivorseed
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 2:21am

      I’m really surprised that any blazers would still vote for Romney considering he has moved further to the left than Obama has ever been. Heck, if he put a (D) next to his name he would be up by 80 points….from banning assault rifles to universal health care to a womans right to choose, diplomacy instead of war, timeline to get out of afghanistan, no military help for Syria….he’s in the wrong party for sure

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    • 1st a Father
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 2:23am

      It really doesn’t matter who won this debate.

      I have an aunt who believes that anything anyone comes up with against Obama is a lie and comes from racial prejudice. Absolutely illogical, but yet the truth. There are many who voted for Obama last time who will continue to deny they made a mistake.

      I firmly believe our only hope of ousting Obama is to convince all our conservative friends to get out and vote. Don’t waste your time on the those who cannot see. I’ve helped my 3 voting age children see the importance of voting for Romney this election and made sure that each of them is registered and I will personally drive them to the polls if needed. This is not a brag, it is merely an example of what must be done.

      I will be at the polls for early voting tomorrow. How many of you will be taking someone else to the polls who didn’t vote in the last election? I’ll have 3 new voters at the polls, how about you. Activate your friends now.

      It may be your last chance to bring someone into the fold of sanity. In my state, tomorrow is the last day to register, to be able to vote in this election.

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 2:45am

      My kids and I text during the debate and they felt that he’d lost and were really upset, until the end… then they were…oh, I see now !! WE ALL wanted ROMNEY to pile drive that twerp into the dirt over
      his bloody hands in Libya murders…that will come…but right now, Romney needs to get elected.

      ROMNEY’s Wrap up speech was terrific…it was as if he were sitting in our living room. Obama is just a smooth -a. talker… jive talker…slick talker…. and the thing is: HE doesn’t mean a word he says and he has a record to prove it.

      WHILE CNN, MSNBC, AXELROD, Ploueffe or whatever and that future witch Cutter were poised and ready to pounce..ROMNEY gave them butkus!!! It was like watching the master at work.

      NOW we focus on getting the vote out. PRAY HARD!!! 14 days!!
      PS: CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER you are the best…not because you said he won, but because you are honorable and people trust you !

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 3:02am

      I felt that Obama won as Romney and Obama sounded almost the same through the entire debate. Romney needed a home run here and he did not get it. We will see what the polls say over the next few days. I researched the newest polls put out today, and they show Obama +1.7 points overall. Not looking good for Romney, but that is what you get when you put up a Republican that is more like his opponent in his ideas.

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    • realindependent
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 4:22am

      Wow again the Blaze quote’s a conservative pundit saying Romney won. SHOCKER… SPOILER ALERT!!!! Hey drudge who do you think won. How about you Limbaugh. Lemmings again marching towards the cliff..

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    • Wildblue3
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 5:17am

      Agreed. More voters will now go for Romney. I wish there was another venue that Romney could go on now. I imagine they would eat him alive on Letterman. Leno leans to the Right but NBC would want a gatcha moment.

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    • 000degrees
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 7:26am

      real must have missed when the good doctor declared o the winner of the second debate…..you also need new talking points real….

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    • mersey
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 7:47am

      Romney clearly looked more presidential in this debate. Petulance is a quality that only progressives appreciate in a president. Another idiotic comment that Obama always makes is that Romney’s budget figures don’t add up mathematically. Really? This coming from a president who has already added over $5 TRILLION to our deficit and if reelected, his budgets could add another $4 TRILLION in the next four years. Note to progressives: larger numbers are NOT good when we have to borrow from others or print paper money, making it useless. Useless? Now there’s a word you can get your brains around.

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    • Abraham Young
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 7:48am

      @Puddle Duck:

      Go away warmonger. Blessed are the peacemakers. And that doesn’t mean you get to decide who has weapons and who does not. It means a good defense is the best offense, and the only Constitutional approach. Buzz off spending my taxpayer money for your wars.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 8:15am

      Charles calls things as he sees them, not as he would like to see them. He gave round 2 to Obama on points. I agree with his assessment of round 3. Romney came off as an adult and Obama as a petulant child. “The 80′s are calling and want their foreign policy back.”????? Can you believe a POTUS would utter something that childish in front of the world? BTW Obama, the 80′s weren’t a bad time for America in the world. I know you don’t remember because you spent the entire decade f***ed up.

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    • imsteph
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 8:37am

      he proved he could glower at someone for a shockingly long amount of time without ever lifting his eyebrows more than a millimeter above his sockets…
      the man looked like a petulant teenager whose dad just took his car away because he is failing all his classes and isn’t doing his chores yet steals money from his mom’s purse in order to impress his friends and show up his rivals—Oh WAIT! THAT IS EXACTLY WHO HE IS-LOL!!

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    • cessna152
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 8:51am

      When will someone ask Oblamo what his plan is for the next 4 years? My guess, complete and total government takeover…Oblamo’s answer “equality through government”. Someone please call him out on his 4 year plan…

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    • P8riot
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 11:18am

      OBAMA WAS SNARKY AND CHILDISH during the last debate. It was obvious that he’s never truly been challenged his entire life — IT WAS GREAT WATCHING OBAMA LOSE ALL SELF CONTROL – ha!

      Romney hit this one out of the park simply by keeping his cool. I’ve won plenty of juries by simply treating a hostile witness with total respect – even when he loses his temper with me.

      When the jury returns on Nov. 6th, Romney will win by a landslide.

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    • republitarian
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 11:20am

      IMSTEPH has the best debate summery. LOL. Thanks.

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    • wheatengurl
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 11:28am

      it gets scarier all the time with obama
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jhx_2TqffE

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    • Evileye
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 11:55am

      Obumbler grand plan
      #1 more of the same
      Tax the wealthy(They Pay over 60% of Income taxes Now)
      Side track Israel So Iran will Happy
      Hire more teachers( People graduating now cant find work)
      Power the nation with wind mills ( China Builds them)
      Bankrupt Coal Plants
      More natural gas (but not on Public lands) Natural gas has to be $7.00 per Gal for wind mill to
      be coast effective
      Love Radical Muslims. ( that will Make them happy and not want to kill us)
      Help Russia so they can give more aid to Iran ,More gun ship to Syria.
      Rebuild Engine on Air force One (they must be worn out by now)
      Run the national debt to $20 trillion ,So we will become so ineffective that Cuba can push us around.
      And last Make the Great prevaricator President for life.

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    • westtitus
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:19pm

      I think Romney showed he would reach across the asile and work with Dems. The President however showed it is his way or the highway. We need to fix this Country and arguing and fighting about class and who paid the most taxes. Get together and get it fixed, submit a budget and stick to it and make the hard decisions. Obama will not work with anyone but his cronnies and will not fill his cabinet becuase he has to hide what he is doing so the less that knows what he is doing the better for him. He really should be impeached for Bengazi if it is proven he tried to cover it up, 4 people died and is worse than Watergate by far (4 dead Americans).

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    • MIBUGNU2
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 1:25pm

      Romney didn’t get sucked into Obama’s Bullshi**,kept his cool..
      I really liked what he had to say about China.. He made a lot of
      good points, and kept obama on his heels..OORAH..Liberals
      keep saying obama won the debate, OK !!! But these people
      have had their heads buried in the sand for over four years now..
      Their “ROCK STAR” is about to retire back to Chitown…

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    • jorge_washington
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 1:48pm

      “This coming from a president who has already added over $5 TRILLION to our deficit and if reelected, his budgets could add another $4 TRILLION in the next four years.”

      President Obama inherited a 1.4 trillion dollar deficit from Bush. In case you don’t understand that, it means revolving debt every year. That’s almost 4 trillion dollars in 3.5 years. By the way, the last deficit under Obama was about 1.04 trillion, the deficit is going down. Add to that the $700 billion dollars for the bank bailout under Bush. Add to that the Medicare prescription drug coverage costing at least $100 billion dollars a year and auto bailout both under Bush. None of these items were paid for.

      What Obama has added to the deficit is addition funding for the US auto industry, extending the Bush tax cuts for 2 years and the $800 billion dollar stimulus. If you say or believe that the Obama stimulus did nothing, then you also believe Obama never had 10% unemployment.

      We are not spending, rather we have cut our income (taxes) that pays for things. Now Romney and the republicans want deeper tax cuts and in order to pay for these tax cuts, they want to cut services for those among us that have the least so those that have the most can have even more.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 3:18pm

      JORGE….nice try.
      Do you know why government revenue is down champ? There are less tax payers that are paying federal taxes. Less people with adequately paying jobs that qualify for Federal income tax. Obama has increased the number of under-employed that have either completely left the workforce for lack of finding a job, or are taking part time or home jobs for lack of finding adequate employment.
      Obama’s last joke of a budget had a proposed increase of $3 trillion in new spending. You’ll recall it was unanimously voted down in the Senate?
      Keep trying champ…..

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 3:34pm

      I’ve said this on another board but I think it bears repeating here because it dovetails with Krauthammer’s take as well as many other Blazers’ here….

      As a community organizer Obama has studied Saul Alinsky. Alinsky says to use ridicule..we saw Obama utilize this Alinsky principle with lines like “horses and bayonets”.

      As a businessman, Romney likely has read Sun Tzu and perhaps even Musashi’s “Five Rings”. Sun Tzu is not just applied to military settings, but also to business ones.

      Watching Romney last night I noticed he was applying some of Sun Tzu’s most basic principles. Sun Tzu says to never go looking for a battle if you can avoid it. Only fight where you’re assured of the victory. More precisely Sun Tzu defines “killing ground”. You don’t go to the ground your enemy chooses to fight you on, you fight on yours.

      Romney did this to Obama last night. Obama wanted Romney to appear hawkish and a war monger. Romney didn’t go to that ground, instead he attached himself to Obama and remained even-toned and on message. Obama was clearly frustrated hence the “horses and bayonets” ridicule to humiliate Romney.
      But Romney only needed two things from last night..to keep his momentum going and to not appear hawkish and pro-war. He won on both while making Obama seem petty and churlish. Romney strategized for a bigger conflict. A war as opposed to just a battle. Obama hurled bombs for merely a debate. Obama still doesn’t know what Romne

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  • leonardo44
    Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:09am

    Great job by Romney tonight. Solid, diciplined , intelligent, consistently taking the high road. He will make a great president.

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:15am

      I agree.

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    • S-O-B-E-R
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:20am

      I agree as well.

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    • iBeliever
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:29am

      I can’t believe this site has convinced some of you that Romney is actually going to win this election.

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    • RLTW
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 1:00am

      Ibeliever

      You are truly a sad little collectivist, after reading your past scribble it’s clear you’re an imbecilic left wing, hate freedom a$$hat.

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    • SITDOWNANDSHUTUP
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 1:00am

      IBELIEVER

      What non-oversampled (democrat oversampled) poll shows Obama leading? (in the past week, that is)

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    • iBeliever
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 1:24am

      I mean say whatever helps you feel better but not a single one of you actually thinks Romney has a chance. Why kid yourselves?

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    • Libermerican
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 1:33am

      President Romney WILL make a great president. Well, compared to Obama.

      As a Libertarian, I must admit:

      I like his tough stance on:

      +> domestic energy production (about frikken time)
      +> reducing regulations on businesses (he should know!)
      +> china ripping us off on trade dollar value and intellectual theft (Donald Trump gets full credit for this)
      +> ?

      That’s it.

      Let’s see… areas a Libertarian (or sane American might be disappointed):

      -> 10 years to balance the budget (wtf?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?)
      -> cut federal government, by attrition only (wtf?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!!?!?!?)

      That’s only the beginning, but I made my point. Sure, Romney will stop the direction Obama is going in… well… maybe in a few areas. Not really. The USA is still rushing off a cliff, even with Romney at the helm. The USA is doomed. Our children will not have it better either.

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    • mamapajamas
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 1:55am

      Ibeliever… re: “…I mean say whatever helps you feel better but not a single one of you actually thinks Romney has a chance. Why kid yourselves?”

      Answer: Actually, given that the pollsters have been oversampling Democratics all year, we’re reasonably sure that Romney is going to win in a landslide. We aren’t kidding ourselves OR you. We know this to be true. What… do you live in a large eastern or California city where you are in an echo chamber and have no clue what’s going on in the rest of the country?

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    • diverdan
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 9:18am

      You have to give IBELIEVER credit for being the typical liberal, meaning arrogant, dismissive and resorting to insult and attack.

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    • MadAsHeII
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 1:02pm

      SITDOWNANDSHUTUP, Well I always keep an eye on Real Clear Politics which is a conservative run polling site that publishes all the polls and give averages from all. They have been closer than most in past elections because the averages give a better polling picture. The main polls to watch are the swing states as they will ultimately decide who wins, and remember that there are quite a few Paul supporters in key states. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html
      You will notice that Obama still has the upper hand in these states. This election is not decided yet and since we have a Republican candidate where there is not a dimes worth of difference between them on issues, Republicans cannot say that Romney has this race sewn up. This is just what I get from these polls, and with Romney’s poor performance last night, I believe he is not going to defeat Obama. You guys can think he won, but they were basically the same. You guys need to stop listening to Fox and start researching everywhere. You cannot discount liberal sites, liberal news or you are not getting the whole picture across the nation. Everyone does not think like you guys, and you should not think so. Gary Johnson’s polling has been rising, and that can be credited to Paul supporters as they are starting to coalesce around him. You guys still think he will only get 1%, but from what I am seeing, it could possibly be as high as 15%

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  • zipzap
    Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:08am

    The Al Qaida flag flies over Libya. America’s Ambassador sodomized and drug through the streets; 30,000 innocents dead in Syria; Egypt beating the drums of war against Israel; an undetered Ahmadinejahd endorsing the President for re-election, pleading for 4 more years of Obama so the nuclear warheads can be completed and fired at Israel; Castro endorsing the President for re-election; Chavez endorsing the President for re-election; Israel begging for help in the face of obliteration, but getting “sure, Pal, we’ll be there for ya” response from the so-called leader of the free world. Looks like Obama scores an A+ on foreign policy. Mothers, do you want to hold your daughters a little tighter, knowing that the current administration fiddles while girls in Afghanistan and Pakistan have their genitals mutilated, are raped and then stoned to death for being prostitutes? My daughters know that the biggest danger to a woman is the propogation of Democrat foreign policy. My daughters shake their heads in disbelief as their liberal teachers tout Obama as defender of women.

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    • S-O-B-E-R
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:21am

      God bless your daughters.

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    • donkeykong
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:41am

      Zipzap –
      You pinged a concern of mine for ages now – the indoctrination
      of our young people in our schools for years now. Have your
      daughters EVER come home with an assignment to read
      the Constitution? Bill of Rights? I’ll bet not. It’s the slow
      creep of Socialism, and with every Democratic president
      it seems to get worse. The last Democrat I had any respect
      for was JFK, and since I was so young it’s only because
      my folks liked him. Glad to hear your daughters still haven’t
      been brainwashed by the Liberal schools we have now.

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    • Mrs.Cee
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 1:55am

      Just wanted to throw some hope manna into the crowds. There are a few of us, but we are out there, who are conservative and God fearing teachers in the public schools. I do not beat my drum, God help me if I dare, but whenever I get the chance I speak out for the values that make this country great. I hate the fact that my money is sent to unions which support everything I stand against, but I do not have a choice. NEA sends me their magazines with Obi’s picture on it and I toss it directly in the trash where it belongs. The union reps call me on the phone to tell what to vote for, and my answer is “okay, no problem, thank you for the call.” Why? Because we’re scared as if we were back in my own native communist country where I was also afraid to confront those in power, or with some influence over my livelyhood. I love being a teacher, and trust me whenever I get a chance I spread the truth.

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 5:52am

      Who gave us the Department of Education? None other than Jimmy Carter. I’ll bet this is when the indoctrination began in earnest. Does anyone think this organization has improved the education system? Young Americans today have been dumbed down to the point where a lot of them are dysfunctional to the point where they can’t live on their own. Today it’s not uncommon to see 30+ year old adults still living with/off their parents.

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  • thelaststandonearth
    Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:05am

    Obama just rambled on and on when Romney slammed him on many points, which left Romney’s points out there for everyone to dwell on and have sink in. Obama got a couple of punches in, but Romney stayed presidential, and even said, “When I’m President”, and landed many punches, including the Putin comment and the apology tour. Obama could not come back with anything of substance. He just babbled on about nothing and made little sense.

    I’m afraid that Romney’s calmness and demeanor will win out over O’s condescending ‘boat’ comments any time. Romney did have to debate slightly with B.S. (Bob Schieffer) but not nearly as bad as C.C. last time they got together, and Romney handled himself quite well with both of them.

    It also looked like Obama kept looking to B.S. for ‘a little help’ when ever Romney was slamming him. Those looks didn’t make him look good at all. It was almost like O was trying to signal B.S. to change the subject or something.

    I did wish that Romney would have litigated the Benghazi thing, but I’m not sure it was that necessary, considering all the other points that we learned tonight that put O in the hole.

    I have to confess that I am siding with K-hammer on this one even though I don’t like K that much.

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    • Restored One
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:14am

      Yes I totally saw that. “help me, help me” or “your gonna give me chance to talk right…..” Obama looked so tense, it was like he was in a marriage counseling session.
      I have also made a comment later in the posts. Sorry, not favorable to Mitt. Too many opportunities missed.

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    • Fla.Patriot
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:56am

      I think it’s true that Romney went Big and Obama….did not. Mitt Romney intelligently presented a world view with some pretty concise answers as to how he, as President would handle them. Obama spent the bulk of the evening defending his failures and attacking Romney in broad undefined strokes. Obama, (as always) was condecending and arrogant. He reminds me of a petulant child and I could envision him in my mind telling Romney, “I know you are, but what am I ?” As in the last 2 debates (as well as the days following the TERRORIST ATTACK in Libya) Romney came across as already being the President, and Obama behaved like a child caught red handed cheating on a test

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:58am

      Romney appeals to the last best generation we have….my Mom and Dads generation who came of age in the 50s known as the silent generation. They love civility and will reward Mitt with their votes. Obama panders to the young kids who have no skin in the game as far as ownership in anything, home, business, you know the things Obama is crushing. These kids could care less about foreign policies. But Mom and Dad know their time is limited on this earth and I believe they see what Obama is, they know the Left as only the hippy generation who fought against their country and are trying to ruin it now. Nixon got them to the polls for him in the 70s and I think Mitt will get them back out despite his Mormonism. Silent Generation! We need you to vote!

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  • typical white person
    Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:02am

    Barry should bow and apologize to the people of the USA for selling us out.

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  • crusaderx9
    Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:00am

    obama is the most immature person I have ever observed holding high office – a petty incompetent national embarrassment, obama has made the world a more dangerous place…

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    • jettson
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 9:40am

      Yes your right obama is a slug and will destroy America. We must all do what we can to get rid of this jerk. SAVE THE COUNTRY VOTE ROMNEY I like how you didn’t give a capital letter to his name LOL

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    • MIBUGNU2
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 1:41pm

      Romney didn’t get sucked into Obama’s Bullshi**,kept his cool..
      I really liked what he had to say about China.. He made a lot of
      good points, and kept obama on his heels..OOORAH..Liberals
      keep saying obama won the debate, OK !!! But these people
      have had their heads buried in the sand for over four years now..
      Their “ROCK STAR” is about to retire back to Chitown…

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  • Delores at CH WV
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:59pm

    It was very clear that Obama wished that Big Bird would have showed up and responded to the answers.

    Mitt is very organized and solid. He actually knows how to look at the Big Picture and has sound judgement on how he would implement it.

    Obama can talk, and talk, and talk . . .He never shuts up. He makes a lot of noice; he can never put action to his words. Lies, without hesitation . . . you wouldn’t want to be married to him or be his business partner.

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  • obamas sin laden
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:57pm

    “Hey Candy, get the transcript. C’mon, help out da Choom-gansta”.

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    • ViewPointtt
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 2:24am

      An article published a few days ago asked some very interesting questions; “How did Obama know the moderator had that transcript, and when did he know it? What was the purpose behind knowing that Crowley had the transcript? What else did Obama know, and was there collusion?” Also points out; “Crowley stated on CNN that she collected questions from the audience on Monday and was reviewing them. The debate was Tuesday. Audience member, Kerry Ladka, prefaced his Libya question by saying, “yesterday we were sitting around talking about Libya.” If Crowley already had the audience questions assembled the day before, how could Ladka have been writing one after she received them? When Crowley was introducing Ladka, she announced “we are changing topics to a question from Kerry Ladka.” Shockingly, Obama walked over to the crowd and without any prompts from the audience, looked directly at Ladka and said “Hi, Kerry”. On tape, it’s obvious Obama realized no one told him where Kerry was sitting, then awkwardly pretended to look for Ladka and asked for his name (which he had just mentioned).”

      Was Obama given debate information beforehand?
      http://www.examiner.com/article/was-obama-given-debate-questions-beforehand-1?cid=db_articles

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    • raderby
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 3:36am

      of course there was collusion. The media and Obloomers are sewn together at the hip. They are ALL going down.

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    • fair2light
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 6:57am

      Viewpoint, I caught the fact Obama had a heads up in the 2nd debate when Candy announced that only she knew the questions and reiterated no one else knows…hummm that should go with out saying. So Obama got all the help he could get from the moderator and who knows what else. Still he couldn’t slam dunk it. At best he broke even. That being said, no one was swayed by Obama or Romney. Does anyone think there are undecided voters? Im not hip hip hoRomney but I will vote for him because Obama is unacceptable. Unexceptional. Unbelievable
      . Underwhelming. Im being civil.

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  • Flashydave
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:57pm

    Too bad we didn’t get to hear what Obama would have done if ole’Bob had asked him what he’d do if he got the 3 am call that Israeli Bombers were on their way to Iran. That was Romney’s great moment but we really know Obama would have said “so what?”

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  • Jenasus
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:56pm

    Google – Iron Mountain Blueprint for Tyranny Full RARE Video – and you will see who and what Obama is working for.

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  • ricckky
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:55pm

    dstrider–Like I said in a post yesterday–The LIAR-N-CHIEF is the biggest grifter ever to serve in the WHITE HOUSE–That’s saying a lot with the likes of Clinton!!!! He is a FLIM FLAM MAN TO THE NINTH DEGREE. I also stated he is a true pathological liar, and a clinical sociopath!!! The CON MAN IS TRULY MENTALLY ILL—-AND VERY DANGEROUS—THE DEVIL’S SPAWN!!!!

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  • american_rose_126
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:52pm

    Mr. K nailed it! Also…what I continually find disconcerting–is Obama’s propensity to mislead and outright lie. It’s pathological–shockingly so. Amazingly–for the first time EVER that I can recall–Obama talked about the importance of human rights for women and ‘minorities’ (read: religious minorities) in Egypt. Wow! I never knew he cared! Considering Christians are being CRUCIFIED, yes, literally, right now in Egypt–and women there–over 90% of which CURRENTLY suffer genital mutilation–not to mention the human trafficking–forced marriages of very young girls, etc…the evils against women in Egypt ALREADY abound–and the muslim brotherhood would only seek to INCREASE the horrors against women through Sharia law…and NOW Obama cares?? JUST NOW??? IN THIS DEBATE??? He FAILED to lead as Egypt fell to pieces…and now we have the muslim brotherhood in there–who are not only adamantely AGAINST our ally Israel, but they are ANTI-human rights for women, religious minorities, as well as gays, etc…

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  • ambrosia
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:51pm

    Oh yes,
    that was so delicious-
    Romney pulls out the kodak image
    of Oblameo’s bowing & apologizing two-step,
    recites his exact words
    and the little, evil Boll Weevil wiggles in his seat, denying it.

    It’s a good thing America’s memory is better than his.
    That image, alone demands that he be stripped of power.

    Time’s a’ wastin’-
    tell Ma Obama to pack up your little, Boll Weevil BVD’s
    and remove yourself from OUR White House.

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  • Jenasus
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:50pm

    Obama is not the POTUS.
    Obama is a mole for the United Nations.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:56pm

      So Obama would be the MOTUN. Mole of the United Nations.

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    • Restored One
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:08am

      I am actually po’d! Romney missed several points that Obama brought up. The only thing that I heard that Romney took advantage of was in the first talking point. Obama mentioned Russia and Mitt threw out the Putin comment which no one other than us would understand. Libya, Libya…………..silence. When Obama was going on about Egypt and the democracy yada yada, Mitt came back with praise. That was the time to talk the about the Muslim Hood. I am sorry, to the uninformed viewer, this debate may have been a wash. For me who knows what is going on……….well, I hope the uninformed stay uninformed.

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  • @MATHIASIAN
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:48pm

    I have not heard one iota out of Obama that resembles even the most remote notion of a plan going forward. For the people who claim he won this debate give us one policy that Obama has told us he will implement other than raising taxes on the rich.

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  • katzkiner
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:46pm

    Obama can talk with best of them, BUT, we have lived through 4 years of his destructive policies. His words can’t erase his failures.

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    • american_rose_126
      Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:52pm

      LOVE your comment!

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    • scarydave
      Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:56pm

      His flowery oratory has reached a low point. Something akin to talking into an empty tin can.
      “We The People” ain’t listening to his sales pitch. Time to go and sell used cars!

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    • antann
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:39am

      When Obama said “this nation” he always followed up by saying “me.” He doesn’t believe in “We the People.”

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    • fair2light
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 7:12am

      4 years of destructive policies….unless your a government employee or on welfare. Or a banker i might add. I am union Teamsters. Local 631. We got a 9 dollar an hour pay cut. Hoffa was out campaigning for O at the time last year saying O will fight for unions. Also we are in for a huge tax increase all of us if O gets elected and the Bush tax cut drop off in January. I saw a bumper sticker yesterday..’only teabaggers believe we didnt get the largest tax cut in history’. Huh? Oh the social security tax cut. Yeah obama’s policies speak for themselves if you care to pay attention.

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  • tonypro
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:44pm

    “That’s not what you expect from the president.”

    The only thing I’ve EVER expected from this douche is the destruction of our Constitution, and our country.
    I hate to say it, but unfortunately he met those expectations.

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    • tonypro
      Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:51pm

      Just wanted to add that this was a pretty good synopsis of the debate by Krauthammer.

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    • TSUNAMI_22
      Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:59pm

      He exceeded in that capacity, didn’t he?

      This is what I think about when I’m putting 1/4 of a tank of gas in my truck for the same price I used to get a full tank with. When a gallon of gas costs more than a gallon of milk, sooner or later milk is going to be astronomical.

      Pretty soon more people are going to start going hungry because that food money is going to go in the tank.

      Beck always says “watch the other hand”. Can anyone think of a greater distraction than being hungry?

      We so much need to get back to basics; 1776 basics.

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  • possom
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:43pm

    “The high point of that debate for Romney is when he devastatingly leveled the charge of Obama going around the world on an apology tour. Obama’s answer was: ‘ask any reporter and they will tell you it wasn’t so.’ Look’s like obie never realized that some of us have been paying attention and we KNOW he lie’s about everything.

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    • go2gym
      Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:50pm

      Was thinking the exact same thing. Ask any reporter? BS, I have been watching this idiot for 4 years. Those speeches are right there for anyone to read. No need to ask any of his brown-nosing reporter buddies.

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:02am

      Yeah, Americans from sea to shining sea spewed whatever they were drinking in a mass guffaw of incredulity at that remark. The only people who still trust the mainstream media at this point are the willfully ignorant, i.e. dyed-in-the-wool leftists.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:09am

      From Factcheck.org….
      “THE FACTS: Romney has indeed repeatedly and wrongly accused the president of traveling the world early in his presidency and apologizing for U.S. behavior. Obama didn’t say “sorry” in those travels.”

      Dont be a Sean Hannity parrot

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    • GoodStuff
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:19am

      @soy

      “Dont be a Sean Hannity parrot”

      Don’t be a RuPaul zombie. The brain dies first.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:25am

      Ron who?

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    • Jarhead 88
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:36am

      Soy you are one piece of work, idiot. I bet deep down you’d like to see our Constitution ripped up, just like your avatar. You are a coward and a fool.

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    • donkeykong
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:48am

      LOL! Yeah, ask any reporter……who is guaranteed to take
      Obamas side. The problem people in the public eye have
      now is that, unlike 20 years ago, you can’t just make some
      BS statement in a small crowd that isn’t true and not have
      it come back to haunt you. Wasn’t it Obama himself who said
      “words have meaning” ?? Yup – they do, don’t they Barry?

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    • DNOLAN
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 1:16am

      @SOYBOMB315_II

      LOL@Failure to understand how all Politicians exploit semantics to change all past statements to meet their current needs. Example:

      Barrack Obama did not say “Sorry”, he did however imply that the US has been imperialistic, abusive, and that his administration would work to change that.

      Same thing, different wording. Few words out, so he can deny he ever said “sorry”.

      Same tactic he pulled regarding the assassination. He did not label it a terrorist attack, he made a large all inclusive closing statement regarding terrorist attacks will not be ignored and anyone who kills Americans will be tracked down and brought to justice. it took Obama 14 days to actually label the assassination a planned terrorist attack. Of course, when called on it, he let it be known he had used the word terrorist attack in his first statement, and he had, but not in the context he tried to indicate it was in.

      Biggest laugh is when politicians remember meeting someone and discussing something of importance. “I met someone somewhere who agrees with my point of view and provides a form of evidence in their mere mention to strengthen my case”

      BLAH.

      Romney played this debate dangerously. Hes placed too much confidence in the Average voter to fact check independently from what the Media spoon feeds them. Obama came across as being in charge, and the only way Romney can redeem this one is if the press who normally support Obama actually provide real fact check resul

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    • Mrs.Cee
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 2:05am

      …ask any reporter on MSNBC (he was about to say). You know, like Chris “Chill up My Leg” Matthews, he’ll confirm it.

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  • TelepromoterNChief
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:42pm

    Obama, it’s okay if you need to all up your saggy white boyfriend Chris Matthews to cry a little bit.

    You lost all three debates.

    Way to stay on target.

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  • JeffersonWeeps
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:41pm

    Agreed, although the MSM is wonking it hard for Obama. Mitt clearly articulated that he understands the difference between a strategic threat and a symbolic action. Killing OBL does not do away with Al Qaeda. Leaving Afghanistan does not eliminate the threat. Also clearly understands that strong economy is necessary for strong foreign policy and influence. Obama seemed petulant, and once again failed to articulate any reason why we should expect the next four years to be anything different than the last. The nail was the Romney charge – nowhere in the world is our influence any better than it was four years ago. Also frightening Orwellian overtones – I’ve always been a friend of Israel. I’ve never apologized for the United States. Right, and we’ve always been at war with Oceania. Double plus good. It was like that old joke – who are ya gonna believe, me or your lyin’ eyes and ears?

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    • Freedom from liberals
      Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:48pm

      As long as Romney didn’t suffer any major damage he should be in pretty good shape. If Kraut says he won it means he at least did all right. I pray to God to get the POS outta here

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    • Hoosier-Daddy
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:44am

      I heard someone say today, when commenting on Obama’s crowing about how he was responsible for taking out Osama bin Laden, that “when I go to McDonald’s and the Big Mac is especially delicious, I don’t thank the Clown, I thank the Cook”. I can think of no better metaphor for the SINGLE Obama foreign policy success.

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    • Margyt
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 1:00am

      Masterfully stated!

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    • Fla.Patriot
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 1:17am

      At the risk of being pegged as “Captain Obvious”…was’nt it just this month that Barry and Hillary spent $70,000 of our money to buy air time to tell the entire M.E. how sorry we are about the video. Seems like the “Apology Tour” has been carried over. Our so called President basically Apologized for our First Ammendment. In the words of Joe Walsh…”Time to change the batter”

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  • Chromo200
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:40pm

    My vote is Romney. Obama needs a teleprompter or a rowdy group to shout the opponent down.

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  • Margyt
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:39pm

    I only saw the first 15 minutes (will have to see the replay) and for what I saw, I agree. BO sounded like he was challenging MR’s foreign policy like he was already in office making the decisions. It made BO sound even more detached and unaccountable than usual.

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  • dstrider
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:38pm

    I agree Romney won, however Obama has a way of speaking that allows him to make his lies sound believable. Probably should have been a used car salesman rather than President.

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    • veritas83
      Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:45pm

      lol nobody won this debate or any of them for that matter. Obama versus Romney what a joke they are clones. Enjoy the puppet show folks

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:55pm

      how can romney or obama win when they are up there saying the same thing!!!!

      And people around here wonder why we say Romney = Obama

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    • thelaststandonearth
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:10am

      Romney = Obama. That’s absurd.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:25am

      Yea, absurd like when Romney agrees with 90% of Obama’s foreign policy?

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    • DNOLAN
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 1:29am

      @SOYBOMB315_II

      you again must have been watching a debate differently to what I saw.

      Romney’s standing on foreign policy:

      For the most part, I would have likely taken the same action as Obama, Id just not have waited 3 years for campaign season to do it. You have however undermined our standing in the international community, and made us look weak in the eyes of rogue states like Libya. You also have done nothing to build ties with Israel, our strongest ally in the Middle East. In fact, you outright hung them out to dry, and haven’t even visited Israel once since being in office.

      Obama standing on foreign Policy:

      While campaigning, its nice to see that Romney finally agrees with my decisions, now that im taking action to win some swing votes. As for Israel, before I was president, when I was campaigning the first time round, when I needed to appear to be religious, I visited Israel once for a photo op. I also may have visited the holocaust museum and saw a blown up house or two. That makes me a true champion and ally of Israel. So much so that I need not visit the country ever again, or entertain its leadership when he comes to visit. Oh, and because I want an easier time while handling the Muslim middle east issues, Ill even state im putting distance between the US and Israel….Oh wait, elections are coming up, time to put some sanctions in place against Libya and pretend to be Christian again.

      Paraphrased, of course.

      In conclusion, I favor Romney for

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  • soybomb315_II
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:36pm

    Romney flip-flopped again tonight by refusing the idea of using our military in Syria, Iran, Libya, etc. Just last week he was saying Obama is weak and afraid to use military

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    • veritas83
      Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:43pm

      godlovinmom… I’m sorry but Romney is proving more and more that he is a monster He’s apparently all for drone warfare and expanding it. He agrees quite a bit with the president on foreign policy and wants to impose even tougher sanctions on Iran. Just so its clear to impose economic sanctions on a country is to declare war on that country. These sanctions never harm the government only the people of that country

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    • typical white person
      Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:56pm

      Sorry, troll. You didn’t get the first post after watching for an hour. You’re losing your touch. Soros will want his $20 back.

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:04am

      Verita…well I’m sorry too..Romney is no monster..I don’t believe for one minute that Obama is better on foreign policy than Romney…actually Romney will bring our allies back to us!

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:05am

      only trolls ignore points and make personal attacks. look in the mirror

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    • DOra Glasberg
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:10am

      Cbs poll, Obama 48% Romney 26% The rest a draw.

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    • resme
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:30am

      @soy, http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nfGMRjtv7DU

      What a patriot!

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    • Jarhead 88
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:38am

      You PaulTots need a quick kick in the posterior. I’m not even going to ask you to wake up because you are clearly brain-dead.

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    • DNOLAN
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 2:04am

      And only douches try to make statements without providing some kind of evidence or information to support their point.

      Douches and Presidents running for 2nd term.

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    • chips1
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 1:20pm

      SOY:
      Boing!!! Boing!!!! Boing!!!! You really got stomped last night. Your all over the place. Your on an Obama appology tour. LOL

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    • LeaveMeBe
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 2:36pm

      From President George Washington to all Obama/Romney supporters!!
      17 All obstructions to the execution of the Laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle, and of fatal tendency. They serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation, the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common counsels, and modified by mutual interests.
      18 However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people, and to usurp for themselves the reins of government; destroying afterwards the very engines, which have lifted them to unjust dominion.

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    • LeaveMeBe
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 2:40pm

      22 The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.
      23 Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind, (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight,) the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.
      24 It serves always to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration. It agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which find a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.

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    • LeaveMeBe
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 2:47pm

      43 In offering to you, my countrymen, these counsels of an old and affectionate friend, I dare not hope they will make the strong and lasting impression I could wish; that they will control the usual current of the passions, or prevent our nation from running the course, which has hitherto marked the destiny of nations. But, if I may even flatter myself, that they may be productive of some partial benefit, some occasional good; that they may now and then recur to moderate the fury of party spirit, to warn against the mischiefs of foreign intrigue, to guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism; this hope will be a full recompense for the solicitude for your welfare, by which they have been dictated.
      WASHINGTON SAW COMING EVERYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS AGE. READ HIS FAREWELL ADDRESS MORE THAN ONCE AND THEN AGAIN, OVER AND OVER, UNTIL YOU CAN RECITE IT… AND THEN CALL ME PAULTOT, PAULBOT OR ANY OTHER NAMES YOU MENTAL MIDGETS HAVE.

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  • godlovinmom
    Posted on October 22, 2012 at 11:35pm

    He’s right
    Romney’s plan…5 points…bipartisonship
    Obama’s plan…attack Romney
    Nice!

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    • gradstudent
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:01am

      What makes you, or Romney, think anything is going to change should he be elected? The GOP would need to bring their number up to 60 seats in the Senate for anything to change. Do you, or Romney, think that we, liberals, are just going to forget the record filibusters used against Obama? Are we supposed to forget the last four years of Beck et al. calling us stupid or evil, or both? Why would we agree to any bipartisanship?

      I for one won’t forget how I, and my beliefs, have been portrayed by Beck and his ilk in Congress and I won’t let my senators and representatives forget either. Though, for the record, I predict an Obama victory and more of the same gridlock and demonization (both literal and figurative) of liberals and our philosophies.

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:09am

      Hey Grad…you don’t sound very smart to me…sticking up for a guy that hasn’t produced a budget in FOUR YEARS…hopefully my friend you don’t run your “up and coming” household like Obama’s been running our country…as far as Romney’s presidency will go.. thanks to Obama…alot of us have woken up and WILL keep these politicians in check…just watch!

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    • gradstudent
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:22am

      So your first response is an ad hominem attack? Also, I was not merely “sticking up” for Obama, I was asking why I should forget the slights aimed at me and those who happen to believe as I do. But I’ll tell you what, responses like yours sure do make me want to participate in some bipartisanship. How could I not!?

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:26am

      whether you participate or not my friend…we will be taking our country back from the likes of you librals…as you call yourself…and you can take political correctness and stick it where the sun don’t shine…as you can see I’m sick of it!

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:29am

      By the way…talk about slights aimed towards ya…ever since obama took office…christians have been ridiculed to death…so welcome to my world…have a nice night!

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    • Wango
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:46am

      GODMOM. . . How have Christians been ridiculed?

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    • Wango
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:46am

      GOD MOM . . .”stick it where the sun don’t shine” is politically correct

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    • Farmhand82
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 4:20am

      Grad you say that as if you utterly forgot the way liberals acted when Bush was in office. You guys have no room to stand when crying about demonization. That’s called cognitive dissonance by the way. Mental gymnastics aimed at validating your beliefs. Liberals have been treating conservatives like garbage for decades. You control pop culture and many would argue the mainstream media. The likes of Limbaugh and Beck would not be nearly as prevalent as they are were it not for said disenfranchisement. We sought out alternative media where we weren’t being vilified and were we thought we could actually get a fair shake. If you think Beck is a monster, it is a monster you guys created. Ill take it a step further. Phlosophtically liberals support large meddling government and redistribution of wealth. Conservatives just want to be left alone. Self reliance and small government. We figure if you lefties want to donate all your money to charity, knock yourselves out. However your philosophy is to be generous with our money, often spending it in ways we definitely do not agree with. It is because you big government guys, by nature, won’t leave us alone that the conflict arises and thus your meddling causes our hatred.

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    • AlwaysAmazed
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 9:47am

      Debate Score: GODLOVINMOM & FARMHAND82 vs. GRADSTUDENT & WANGO

      On Content: GLM & FH = 100
      GS & W = 0

      On Style: GLM & FH = 100
      GS & W = 0

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 12:44pm

      Wango..please read Farmhands response..pretty much sums it up
      Alwaysamazed…lol….your name fits me to a tee…I too am always amazed at how some people are…librals love to debate…but like obama..don’t have a leg to stand on!…and then the name calling :(

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    • Wisdom7
      Posted on October 23, 2012 at 3:56pm

      @GRADSTUDENT

      Do you, or Obama, think that we, conservatives, are just going to forget the record filibusters used against Bush? Are we supposed to forget the last decade of Matthews and the rest of the liberal media calling us stupid or evil, or both? Why would we agree to any bipartisanship?

      I for one won’t forget how I, and my beliefs, have been portrayed by Matthews and his ilk, and liberals in Congress and I won’t let my senators and representatives forget either. Though, for the record, I predict an Romney victory and more of the same gridlock and demonization (both literal and figurative) of conservatives and our philosophies.

      Your selective memory is astounding.

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