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Retired Porn Star Ron Jeremy Defends Smut (& God) During Church Speech: ‘Majority’ of ‘Porn Stars Believe in God’

Oct. 24, 2012 10:57am Billy Hallowell

Retired porn star Ron Jeremy found himself at an unusual place this past Sunday: Daybreak Church in Hudsonville, Michigan. Jeremy, who is one of the nation’s most well-known adult stars, wasn’t in the audience, though. Instead, he spoke to the 2,000 people in attendance from the pulpit.

His message? That “a lot of porn stars believe in God.” Rather than being out-of-control heathens without any regard for the Almighty, Jeremy, who has acted in more than 2,000 porn films, said that the “majority” of adult stars embrace God.

WZZM-TV has more about the controversial appearance:

“I don’t think it’s a problem having my kind of lifestyle as long as you’re honest,” he told the congregation. ”We’re not robots. “We don’t just play ‘hide the bacon’ and then go home and believe in atheism.”

Jeremy was invited to the church to speak alongside Pastor Craig Gross, a faith leader who runs XXXChurch.com. Gross’ ministry works to help Christians overcome pornography addiction. The rationale behind Jeremy’s appearance was that he has the ability to bring people to church who wouldn’t otherwise attended, WZZM-TV reported. The community was, naturally, divided about whether having him attend was a viable idea.

Goss has also ignited controversy in the past for working with Jeremy on an advertising campaign to better educate parents about the dangers of internet pornography. Below, see one of the ads produced back in 2011:

Today, Jeremy, though still referred to as a “porn star,” is retired from the industry. However, he still believes wholeheartedly in recreational sex. Among the other comments he made at Daybreak Church, the star admitted that pornography can harm families and that he only believes people who are happy and healthy should partake in it.

Jeremy framed the divide between himself and many evangelical Christians as hinging upon divergent views on pre-marital sex, The Huffington Post reports.

“The Lord is fine with marriage. We all agree on that,” he told the audience. “But where we differ is that I believe in recreational sex, and the religious folks don’t.”

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crusaderx9
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 12:44pm
hmmm, good for Ron Jeremy if he is a man of faith.

NOW, back to the election and the treasonous obama regime!

The obama regime LIED LIED LIED about Benghazi and wrote off ALL Americans at the consulate and annex by putting Campaign above National Security!

VEGAS? obama flew to Vegas after all that REAL TIME information streamed into his Situation Room?

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- ONLY4UANDME
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 1:10pm
  Well he does resemble Bob Beckle.
  
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- LEGION57
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 6:09pm
  RIGHT ON! IMPEACH OBAMA NOW ANYWAY he is a traitor watch 2016 movie- stinky b.o. is a sick *&^% and needs to be hung- but not like Ron J.– Dang he got fat and ugly- yes just like Beckle.
  
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- TruthMonkey
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 7:06pm
  I was told many years ago by my pastor half a loaf is better than none.
  
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- RaydocX
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 7:17pm
  sorry, if we don’t trust the statistics on unemployment, i’m not going to trust statistics that blame marriage dissolutions on porn…
  
  if spouse a doesn’t want spouse b looking at porn, find out why and do something about it. pretending spouse a is ‘changed’ by porn is laughable. pretending porn jumped out and made spouse a go use a prostitute is probably opposite the truth.
  
  people don’t change. men look at women, women look at men (and women)… pretending we don’t or acting like we shouldn’t is childish. real men and women, though, remember it’s not just the eye candy that attracted them to their mate… it’s the shared hopes, goals, dreams, similar backgrounds, similar beliefs, hopefully faith.
  
  everything does not have to be about addiction… it’s a crutch the LEFT uses to make us all less responsible. now if you’re opposed to pornography, don’t buy it, don’t view it, go on about your business. but don’t act like people who have seen the latest wardrobe malfunction or who know who last year’s playmate of the year is are destroying their marriage or are bad people.
  
  focus on the real issues… the people who want your money, to tell you what you can do or say or believe, who want to do that to your kids, and who believe they know better so they get to decide essentially everything for you and me both… THAT’s evil… that’s going to harm marriages
  
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- jwt
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 7:29pm
  most people believe in a god of some type.Most seem to prefer a god that likes their life style.
  
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- ObamaForward_OverTheCliff
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 1:26am
  “Retired Porn Star Ron Jeremy Defends Smut (& God) During Church Speech: ‘Majority’ of ‘Porn Stars Believe in God’ ”
  
  Unfortunately for them, “believe in God” isn’t enough to save them from Judgment:
  
  “You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe – and tremble!” James 2:19
  
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tradcatholicgirl
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 12:31pm
Satan and all his demons believe in God too.

So what?

Latest statistics say that porn addiction has become an epidemic. It ruins lives every day. Like all “recreational” stuff, it can quickly get out of one’s control.

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- ginger100
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 2:30pm
  How about just shepherding your own flock and leave the judging to GOD, that way we can all get thru this world in the short time we have.
  
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- TEARS FOR AMERICA
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 3:32pm
  Exactly…pornography destroys families, marriages and people…so a porn star tells us all how recreational sex and porn are healthy and in a so-called “church”? And satan was an angel of light and beautiful until he rebelled against God…
  
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- tradcatholicgirl
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 3:51pm
  Ginger,
  
  I’m not judging. You missed my point. I was not comparing satan to people who view porn.
  
  My point was that when someone says” “I believe in God,”we Christians say:…”So what? The devils do AT LEAST that”
  
  In other words, simply “believing” in God is not saying much of anything.
  
  Do you see?
  
  Secondly, the statistitics about porn addiction and it’s devastation to families are also very true.
  
  Look it up. If you google it, it will take ten minutes of your time.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 6:20pm
  Maybe Ron feels like this… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vSAOrpKlgY “you get me closer to god”
  
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- donaldchar
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 6:43pm
  God is clear about one other relevant thing as well: (1 Corinthians 5:12-13) God takes care of judging those outside the church, but calls on us to “rightly judge” (Luke 7:43) those inside. “Judge” means discern and deal with appropriately; there’s another Greek word for “condemn” which is given to Jesus alone (John 5:22 & 1 Cor 5:10).
  
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- P8riot
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 7:37pm
  @TRADCATHOLICGIRL
  
  Great post! Totally agree.
  
  A lot of the comments here are a tribute to the folly of believing in “once saved always saved”… Sorry, but “accepting Christ as your personal Savior” does not suddenly give anyone free reign to sin all they want now…
  
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- Locked
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 8:02pm
  @Tears
  
  “pornography destroys families, marriages and people”
  
  BS. ADDICTION, of all stripes, can destroy those things (but even then it doesn’t necessarily do so). So can dishonesty; if a couple doesn’t admit that one (or both) watch pornography, there will likely be issues if it comes out later on… but that means the couple wasn’t ready to be married, in my view.
  
  Here’s an easy way to tell the difference: go find every happy and successful family, marriage, or person you know, and ask if they have ever seen pornography in their entire life. If your statement is true, they must respond no. If they say yes, then your statement is false.
  
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idontknow3
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 12:18pm
James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Believing in GOD and being obedient to GOD are two different things. Satan himself believes in GOD. That does not mean Satan is Godly in his actions or receives any kind of blessing from GOD.
GOD sacrificed His Son ( John 3:16 ) so that all of mankind would not have to suffer the impending judgement coming on all that is ungodly. This is what salvation is all about.
Those that are not saved need to be finding out what true Biblical salvation is. You can’t work for it. You can’t buy it. You can’t simply do good things to get it. You can’t ever be good enough to get it. Salvation is not measured by success in life or misery in life. It not measured by how long you get to live or whether or not you have or have not suffered catastrophic disease. The Biblical fact is that no human being can do anything that is within his power of ability or capability to acquire salvation.
Salvation is a gift of Love from GOD to mankind. It is a gift. Nothing shown above earns a gift. Fact is a gift cannot be earned. By it nature it can only be received or rejected. Salvation has to be received to be gained. To reject it is to keep yourself status quo. Lost – awaiting the impending judgement of GOD either after death or at the time of His second coming.
Ephesians 2:8-10 (KJV) exquisitely clarifies Salvation being a gift.

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- scarebear83
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 3:31pm
  But you do need to be obedient to what God has asked you to do. God’s word tells us that we need to first hear the Word Rom. 10:17 Then you must believe Hebrews 11:6 You must repent of your sins Luke 13:5 Confess Christ as the Son of the Living God Rom. 10:10 and then be immersed in water for the remission of sins Acts 2:38, 1 Pet. 3:21, Mark 16:16, Rom. 6:3-5, Col. 2:12. These things aren’t something that I came up with or that it is somehow earning your salvation by works of merit. These are things we read in God’s word, things He has commanded us to to in order to be obedient to His will. Faith alone will not save you. Luke 6:46-47, James 2:14:26.
  
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cozmacozmy
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 12:16pm
This church is a block away from mine. I find it odd they are always giving away a cruise or free Detroit Lions tickets to get people in the door…

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Government_Goodies
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 12:14pm
Trainwreck.

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denkat56
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 12:02pm
god hates the natural man, but he loves the sinner, no matter what. maybe we ought to let god decide.

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- Ilikepeople
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 12:09pm
  Why? Does the natural man learn anything? One can speculate that people learn from sin.
  
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- Ilikepeople
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 12:12pm
  The natural man doesn’t know anything, the natural man thinks the world is flat.
  
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- Ilikepeople
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 12:13pm
  The natural man was chased away already, we don’t want to go through that again.
  
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Cavallo
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:46am
At least he is honest. I’ll take a 1000 faulty Rons over 1 bigoted anti Christian atheist from FFRF. His history of smut is far less offensive than the black hearted hateful bigotry of the “atheists”.

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- ChrisDiamond
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 1:40pm
  Ouch, buddy. Ouch. I’m not black-hearted or hateful. Sure, we have passionate disagreements, voice our opinions, post facts and supporting evidence where we can, but… I wouldn’t classify a Christian as black-hearted or hateful unless they proved themselves to be so… but certainly not for simply being a Christian. I’ve endured some pretty harsh nastiness from Christians here; name-calling, snarky assertions etc, and I’ve responded in kind… Do unto others and all… if that’s how they treat me, it must be how they intend to be treated themselves. Likewise when people have been kind (even in disagreement), I have treated themkindly in return.
  
  If your Christ fills you and other Christians with such love, gratitude, and opns your hearts to kindness (even if it’s in pity for the poor unbeliever), then why does so much vitriol spew forth from so many of you? I’ve never been able to reconcile that with my knowledge and understanding of Christ’s teachings and Christianity.
  
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- PaxInVeritate
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 3:14pm
  CHRISDIAMOND… point well made and one I have a problem with as well when discusions about the Catholic Church comes up due to a story on the blaze. The ridicule that comes from both sides (Catholic and “protestant” Christians, and or Catholic and Athiests) is emberrasing and truly shows our fallen nature.
  
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- 7headed
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 3:37pm
  CHRISDIAMOND
  As a Christian, I say “well said” on your part. Many people on my side of the ledger tend to make purely emotive and obnoxious arguments. As believers and non-believers, we would do well to reason with one another without emitting venom.
  
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:40am
What a church. Anyone can be a pastor or make a church these days. Churches like this are destroying their members and insuring they will not make heaven. Everyone knows that even the devil believes in God and he trembles when thinking about Him. That does not make the devil a Christian or saved. Believing their is a God is not enough.

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Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:36am
If I looked like that guy and got laid twice in the same Month, I’d believe in God too…. If I got paid in the process I would shout it from the roof tops..

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- JenniDi
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:55am
  So, you don’t agree with Ron Jeremy’s lifestyle, and your response is to insult his appearance? That seems SUPER christian to me.
  
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- Granny58
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 1:13pm
  Don’t see that Ghandi/Repub stated he is a Christian.
  
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wouldubelieveit
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:32am
Yep it is true Jesus died for sinners But those who say it’s ok to live in sin may not like the end to much. As for you sir making a mockery of the gospel. I don’t think it is a good thing to mock the gospel. Ananias and Sapphira, I don’t think it worked out to good for them you think.

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- OKC08GT500
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 3:01pm
  For all you unbelievers on this thread, all I can say is; don’t take the Mark.
  
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OniKaze
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:28am
A man’s beliefs are only wrong if they are not the same as your own, huh Christians??

Prime example of the hypocrisy of organized religion… Love thy neighbor, indeed….

ALL religion is non-sense…. God is great, and created us all to be the way we are… MAN created religion (and all of its many contradictions and flaws) and it is meant as a means of control (as in enforcing some kind of moral peace, not control as in slavery)…

I love and celebrate God for what he has done for me, but I refuse to follow the will of men who have done nothing but hide behind the veil of religion.

You find God in your heart and mind… NOT in a church…

(I wonder how many Bible thumpers will try to quote some bible verse to “prove” me wrong… Which are nothing more than verses from a MAN-WRITTEN text that is over 1000 years old…)

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- Ghandi was a Republican
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:42am
  Man didn’t resurrect Christ. Not with the technology available at the time. Man didn’t engineer his own quantum genetic leap at the Garden of Eden. O, Indoctrinaire of the Church of the Holy Cliche, hollow-ed be thy brain…
  
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- john vincent
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:43am
  kaze-
  heres something to chew on, NOT from the bible:
  
  better to be silent and thought to be a fool,
  than to speak and remove all doubt.
  
  You have just hung yourself by your own stupidity.
  
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- JenniDi
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:51am
  You’re totally right. Even if the bible was divinely inspired (which I don’t believe), what we have now is so far removed from that original divinely inspired text. It has been translated multiple times, not to mention that before the printing press the only way to duplicate a manuscript was to do it by hand. No way there could be any mistakes there!
  
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- 7headed
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:55am
  OniKaze
  “A man’s beliefs are only wrong if they are not the same as your own, huh Christians??”
  “ALL religion is non-sense….”
  “You find God in your heart and mind… NOT in a church…”
  
  It sounds to me like you’re criticizing Christians for having beliefs that are exclusive. But, then you turn around and list a few exclusive claims of your own? I’ve got some news for you: all belief systems are exclusive. Christians, Jews and Muslims exclude other religious beliefs as untrue (at the fundamental level). Atheists/secularists exclude the beliefs of all religions. And, relativists exclude the exclusivists! There’s no way around this and to criticize someone for it makes no sense.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 12:40pm
  @JENNINIDI
  
  Ok genius, name an error. And I’ll show you that it’s your knowledge that is flawed, not the Bible.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 12:44pm
  “A man’s beliefs are only wrong if they are not the same as your own, huh Christians??”
  
  If we didn’t believe that, we wouldn’t be Chrisitans now would we. That would be like saying, “Well, I like Jesus well enough but you know, that Buddha made some good points”. Idiotic. It’s not if you don’t believe the same as me. It’s if you don’t believe the Word of God. Jesus loved the church and died for it. All the apostles traveled around Asia and Europe and Africa starting CHURCHES. In fact, dying as martyrs in the process.
  
  You’ve invented your own God in your mind. You have a right to believe what you want. But don’t pretend to know anything about my God because you clearly don’t.
  
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- 4truth2all
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 12:54pm
  Yo Onikase:
  
  ” the heart is deceiptful above ALL things”
  
  ” there are ways that seem right to a man but lead to his destruction”
  
  ” my people parish for lack of knowledge”
  
  God gave us HIS WORD and it says that this mans is foolish … he, and anyone who agrees is deceived. There is NO truth in what he says , and Christ is truth …. you do the math
  
  NOT my word … it’s Gods … good day
  
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- OniKaze
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 2:56pm
  Many of the people on the blaze do not share my belief.. I accept that… But That is because I refuse to be TOLD what God is by another MAN.. NO MAN knows God until they leave this existence.. You can revere God, and hold him in the highest regard (which I agree with) but claiming to understand or know God is PURE arrogance.
  
  And to base that knowledge off of a MAN-written book (the Bible), shows lack of productive thought.. IT IS FACT, that the bible has been changed and edited over time by religious organizations (thus multiple revisions of the bible) and it is MOST certainly had its intent and words changed by man to fit the editors narrative and needs…
  
  I love God, I always will… I hope you ALL love God, and always will.. But I want people to use the gift of thought that God gave us to be able to pull away from MAN’s religions, and realize that NONE of us REALLY knows the truth.. And we won’t EVER know, Until GOD wants us to..
  
  The Bible is a good moral compass with some great ideals that help mankind… But to hold the Bible as “God’s word” is the assumption that you know the TRUTH about God…. Which NONE of us do… We can only speculate and hope we are right in the end…
  
  And once again, Quoting my Bible verses is NOT evidence that either of us is right or wrong…
  
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- john vincent
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 3:41pm
  kaze-
  your point about the ‘many’ translations, etc. argue against you. The word of God is the anvil that has worn out many a hammer, and still remains as the monarch of books. Its truths are unpenetrable, but piercing; old but relevant; simple, yet complex; they require a correct heart to fathom, where the depths cannot be measured by man. God’s word has been attacked, maligned, misinterpreted, doubted, scoffed at, yet its contents have, and will change lives for the good. No other book can make such claims.
  
  What other spiritual book has been cast in such a dark light by the infidel, yet has only grown stronger? There is none. As to your idea that it was written by man, and suspect to error, know this: it is GOD breathed, therefore it was given through his mind through his servants hands. You were already called to produce one error, alas you cannot. It silences all opposition and has no equal. It IS ‘sharper than ANY two edged sword-cutting between the joints and marrow…’ If I was Satan, I would attack that which is perfect, and that which leads to a Creator…..The book is perfect
  
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- 4truth2all
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 4:12pm
  Yo Onikaze:
  
  I will not attempt to add the the wisdom of “johns” responce to you.
  To “know” God after death is to late.
  God is not created inside “your” mind which you seem to do.
  If you studied the factual history of how we have our modern day translations you would see the truth that they have not changed in meaning … some aspects may have been retranslated poorly but God leads to His truth.
  In Genesis satan says to Eve … “did God really say” … he lied then and he lies now and you seem to believe that very same lie … you should stop accepting the regurgitated lie that God’s Word has changed.
  
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dacorvi
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:28am
Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.
19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.
20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
22Claiming to be wise, they became fools,
23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.
24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves.

2 Tomothy 3:1 But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty.
2 For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,
3heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good,
4 treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
5 having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.

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- Ilikepeople
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:51am
  “Avoid such people?” Why, do you really think they have power over Timothy? Moreover, do you really think “Timothy” was written by Timothy?
  
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- Ilikepeople
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:58am
  Or how about this? When your children are gathered in their bedroom being lovers of their toys, and your eldest bullying the youngest – does the dad say I’m not going in there?
  
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- 4truth2all
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 1:08pm
  Yo Ilikepeople:
  
  Did you really write what you wrote, or did Ihatepeople write it ?
  
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- castuslonginus
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 1:33pm
  Dear Ilikepeople:how do you know Timothy didn’t write it?
  
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rosegrower
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:24am
“he only believes people who are happy and healthy should partake in it.” Every person who becomes addicted to porn, or who starts having affairs because they believe the grass (or whatever) is greener, believes they are “happy and healthy.” Truth is, porn is like acid – it corrodes the act of sex and the attitudes surrounding it. And Mr. Jeremy is totally out of touch when he says that religious people don’t believe in recreational sex. According to statistics, religious people often have recreational sex WITH THEIR MARRIAGE PARTNER and have much happier, healthier sex lives than do their secular, atheistic counterparts. This pastor must by trying to pump up attendance, but went about it in a kooky way.

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- tradcatholicgirl
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 12:53pm
  Thanks for bringing up the elephant in the room. Porn is not healthy sexuality.
  
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Eastinfection
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:23am
I’m expecting a barrage of the usual vitriol directed at sinners to be lobbed at Ron Jeremy here by the most righteous and judgemental of us but, i kinda like this guy….
I watched that season of the surreal life where he and Tammy Faye became friends.. and came away from it respecting both of them more than i previously had….
He’s nothing if not honest.. and i’ll take an honest pornstar over a dishonest cleric any day.

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Ilikepeople
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:20am
It is written that Jesus came by water and blood. I think people don’t even understand what that means. For instance Congress will not tell Americans the true state of the Nation, because then you could come by waters and blood, that is knowing the cause of your pain. But all you really need to know is that you were numbered by Satan receiving a Social Security number, and that lead to what you have now, and the coming pain.

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- Ilikepeople
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:29am
  See, Satan likes to count knowing the total number. As a matter of fact now I reminded of John McCain getting made fun of because he didn’t know how many homes he owned. Is it really a bad thing to not know how many homes you own? Yet, I bet if he started losing his homes he would start getting a count.
  
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- Ilikepeople
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:32am
  See because Satan stands up the most in people when they start losing the things they have. That’s why scripture says when the time comes don’t go back into your house for your things.
  
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- SimpleTruths
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 1:13pm
  Satan inspired Social Security Numbers? Wow that’s a new one. You seem to have a lot of close personal information about Satan, friend of yours?
  (btw, you know you’re delusional right?)
  
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TalonsPoint
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:19am
Well if this isn’t just the dumbest stunt ever.

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bambam1800
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:16am
Love the ad……”wake up Tommy!!!!”……Hilarious!

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- THERAPTURCOMES
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:22am
  He and his female porn stars have acted as stumbling blocks to millions for decades and all involved in this pron industry are stumbling blocks to those that daily wage the spiritual war with the perverse flesh
  
  The resurrection/rapture comes and will weed out the fake from the real in the twinkle of an eye http://youtu.be/ahEVxIzlxwo
  
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- 4truth2all
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 1:35pm
  Yo Rapture:
  
  The parable of the seeds says otherwise …
  trials and tribulations do the weeding …
  God is the master gardener …
  
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:13am
“Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.”

James 2:19

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In the O.C.
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:12am
Oh, geez. This world is in a very big mess, isn’t it?

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- minorityconservative2
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:25am
  You said it! Why would a pastor invite someone who believes in things against what GOD says to talk to his church? That is letting the wolves into the hen house. Or maybe I have that wrong, but it is some such saying. The point is we are polluting our churches with pastors who say it is ok to have gay sex/marriage, premarital sex, abortion and every other type of sin against GOD.
  
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john vincent
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:12am
Hey Ron:
you believe in God?? thats great….

‘the devil believes in God…..and trembles.’
the word of God; book of James

You may be able to pass your depravity on the masses, but decent people will never buy it.

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- JenniDi
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:33am
  Enjoying sex doesn’t mean that you aren’t decent. In fact, enjoying pornography doesn’t mean that you aren’t decent. Human sexuality is normal, and not something that we should be ashamed of.
  
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- 4truth2all
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 1:26pm
  Yo Jennidi:
  
  Sex is enjoyable BECAUSE it is a GIFT from God …
  NOBODY has a right to that gift unless married … so when used as recreation you use it “illegally”. This means you have violated a “law”, and when a law is violated punishment ensues.
  The law of God is eternal and all encompassing … that includes Ron, you and me.
  I have violated this law and asked for forgivness … therefore, I am forgiven and no longer under punishment … those who do not are not , that’s the law!
  
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- PaxInVeritate
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 2:10pm
  “The Lord is fine with marriage. We all agree on that,” he told the audience. “But where we differ is that I believe in recreational sex, and the religious folks don’t.”
  This is going to happen everywhere. Those who are devote followers of Jesus Christ will be forced to witness this in the house of God and told that what is an abomination to the Lord (sexual immorality, same sex marriage, contraception and abortion… etc) is acceptable and pleasing to Him.
  
  JENNIDI… read this message please:
  
  http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/fornication-pornography-and-prostitution-all-mortal-sins/
  
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- tradcatholicgirl
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 3:37pm
  I agree that enjoying pornography does not mean someone is not “decent.” But that person is filling a natural, God-given need in a very unhealthy way.
  
  Just spend ten minutes googling: “statistics on pornography addiction.” Do some research. It is not a harmless recreational tool.
  
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Ilikepeople
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:11am
That’s because Satan believes in God, but doesn’t love God.

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DesdemonasCrew
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:11am
Wow! I mean…just…Wow!

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TelepromoterNChief
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:10am
Honestly, I do not beleive there is an “atheist.”
Everyone has a belief .. . hope. . .that there is a purpose to this life and something. . anything happens after they die.
I certainly do.
The ones who fight so hard against diety (lower case to be unspecific) hope to solidfy their overtly vocal defiance.
In the case of Barak Obama. . .he just thinks he’s a god (lower case intentionally.)

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BacktotheFounders
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:07am
You believe in God? So what? Satan and all evil entities believe in Him, also. The crucial question is whether or not you are obedient to Him. That determines which side you are on.

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- Exrepublisheep
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:17am
  All of us believers are faithful on a part time basis. We all sin. It’s why Jesus had to step in.
  
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- mrsbose4jesus
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:30am
  Yes, we all sin and Jesus forgives us. The difference is is that we acknowledge our sin and ask for forgiveness and then try to change and do better each time we fail. The trouble these days is people think they can do whatever feels good and think because Jesus will forgive them that it is ok. It’s not and he is leading people astray by saying this.
  
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thibx
Posted on October 24, 2012 at 11:05am
the pastor is as dumb as him.

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- 4truth2all
  Posted on October 24, 2012 at 4:18pm
  The pastor is far worse … as scripture says !
  
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