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Blaze Fact Check: Rachel Maddow Laments Election Scenario Where Boehner Becomes President — But That’s Impossible

Oct. 25, 2012 9:13pm Mike Opelka

What happens on election night if President Obama and Mitt Romney end up in a 269-269 electoral tie?

MSNBCs Rachel Maddow Wrongly Believes An Electoral Tie Could Create President Boehner

Image: MSNBC screen grab

Apparently, that is one of the hundreds of possibilities being talked about as the rest of the country endures the candidates’ swing state saturation sprint to the finish line. MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow seems to think that one of the possible situations would give Speaker John Boehner the presidency.

Here’s how Maddow explained the math:

If Obama and Romney each win the states currently believed to be solidly in their camp, the election comes down to a handful of swing states.
Obama could win Ohio, New Hampshire, and Wisconsin — that would give him a total of 269 electoral votes.
Romney could grab Nevada, Colorado, Iowa, North Carolina and Florida — which would put him at 269.
Neither man would have enough votes to be declared the winner.

This is where the wisdom of the Founding Fathers shines. According to the 12th Amendment to the Constitution, in the case of an Electoral College tie, the selection of the president moves to the House of Representatives. And, unlike the electoral votes assigned to each state, in this case each state gets a single vote for president.

If they voted the way their states did, Romney would win 29-21 over Obama.

Image: MSNBC screen grab

However, (again according to Maddow) there is no mandate or expectation for the representatives to vote as their states popular vote would indicate. Therefore, she speculates, that it is possible that the 50 states could be split right down the middle. This is where Maddow (incorrectly) thinks Speaker Boehner would become President Boehner (a concept that also appears to give her considerable tsuris… watch the video below).

Image: MSNBC screen grab

Since Ms. Maddow is confused, we went back to the words of the Founders and also consulted with two different Constitutional scholars (one who spent some time clerking in the Supreme Court). Both gentlemen agree with our position and one rated our analysis of the information as “spot on.”

The 12th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution spells out the correct procedures for resolving an electoral tie:

The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice.

One state, one vote. Right? Yes, but there is nothing in those instructions that says in case of a tie, the Speaker of the House becomes president.

There is some language about what happens if the House is unable to vote and select a new president by March 4th following the election.

And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. –]* The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President.

Based on the Constitution, if the House cannot get its act together and vote for a president, the vice president “shall act as president.” The selection of the vice president who “shall act as president” is in the hands of the Senate. Based on the wording in the 12th Amendment, the two leading VP candidates would go before the Senate (the newly configured Senate) and a VP to act as president would be chosen. So it is possible that Joe Biden could become president.

It is not possible that Romney would be president and Biden be forced upon him as vice president. However, our Constitutional scholar mentioned a previous situation where a president was forced to take a VP not of his choosing.

In the Presidential election of 1836, the election for Vice President was decided in the Senate. Martin Van Buren’s running mate, Richard M. Johnson, fell one vote short of a majority in the Electoral College. Vice Presidential candidates Francis Granger and Johnson had a “run-off” in the Senate under the 12th Amendment, where Johnson was elected 33 votes to 17.

Since modern day votes are cast for president and vice president as a ticket, 1836′s split ticket disaster won’t be repeated.

Got it? Let’s review.

If there is a 269-269 tie, the House will vote for the president, with each state being allowed a single vote.

Should the House be unable to reach a consensus or seat a quorum in order to vote by March 4th following the election, then the vice president will become president.

The vice president will be chosen by the new Senate, from the top two vote-getters in the popular vote and not the electoral totals.

By the way, Ms. Maddow credited ABC News’ Jonathan Karl for speculating about the possibility of the electoral tie, but Mr. Karl’s story never mentions John Boehner, just his theory that a Romney/Biden Executive Branch is a possibility. (It’s not.)

Image: ABC News / Getty Images

Rachel, we would like a correction. (We did reach out to her camp but did not receive comment before publication.)

UPDATE: There is a slight amendment to some of the information in this story. While the 12th Amendment made provisions for the steps to be taken in case of an electoral tie, the 20th Amendment changed the date that would trigger a Senate selection of the Vice President to “act as President.” Instead of March 4th, January 20th is the new date.

Here’s the segment from Wednesday night’s show.

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Comments (191)

Buddynoel
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 10:20pm
Apparently, I’m not alone about Maine being the tie breaking vote. A poll shows that Romney may actually be leading in Maine CD2, but losing the state, giving him one electoral vote, thus 270-268. http://pinetreepolitics.bangordailynews.com/2012/10/25/romney-makes-a-play-for-maine/

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- BreeZee
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 10:28pm
  ALL conservatives need to get out and vote because ALL the states are important.
  
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- midcoastmainepatriot
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 10:30pm
  Right On The Money My Man!!!!!!!!!! How would THAT be !! …..But I think it’s going to be a Romney/Ryan land slide anyway, at least I’m praying for it !!!
  
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- WATER-THE-TREE
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 11:36pm
  Worrying about which states are who’s and what not does not matter half as much as stopping the corruption and voter fraud that will be perpetrated by the left, it will be staggering. I heard someone say that if the election were held today that so and so would win, actually Romney would win because the left would be caught off guard and would not have all of there voter fraud accomplished.
  
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- obrien871
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 2:40am
  ALL cinservatives need to vote no matter what or where it has to be a big decision and Romney needs to win thw popular vote and the electoral vote by big margins. Liberals WILL try and steal tbis election… they WILL cheat lie steal and stuff the ballot box as always demicrat and liberal districts like Madison WI etc will have 125% turnouts because they CHEAT so every vote is crucial.
  
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- GETLIFE
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 5:29am
  Obama surrogate msnbc/Maddow must be just pleased as punch with their little story– a clever excuse to get the Romney/ Biden visual image out there.
  
  Subconsciously, the viewer either associates Romney’s class with Biden, or Biden’s crass idiocy with Romney— either way, it’s a win/win image for the Obama campaign.
  
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- SocialistSlayer
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 8:50am
  Its going to be the biggest defeat of a sitting president in the history of the US ! The Commie-crats know it ; they are just trying to gear up for stealing the election.
  
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- WakingSheep
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 10:05am
  Maine were treated so well during the convention too!
  
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- apexmoon
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 10:06am
  Maddow would be kind of hot if she had a bit longer hair, looked a little less like a boy, stuffed her bra, was a little less shrill, and was a republican.
  
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- Sosorryforyou
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 11:57am
  APEX – here you go:
  
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/08/rachel-maddows-yearbook-p_n_640093.html
  
  But personally, I love her look now (and her politics too!)
  
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- O NEEDS TO GO
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 1:31pm
  BreeZee you are SO CORRECT. This is the most important election in the history of this country. I believe any fair minded person who looks at this mess with realize Obama is not the answer, heck Romney may not be, but I do believe Romney loves this country whereas Obama wants to cut it down to size to be on level with other countries which is unacceptable to me and most all Americans that I know
  
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- 19RANDY59
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 1:31pm
  I think Madcow has the hots for Moooochelle
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 3:24pm
  You blazers are terrible…stop beating up on Keith Olberman’s nephew.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 3:28pm
  APEX…you made me throw up a little in the back of my throat….
  
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- January24
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 6:02pm
  Is there a bottom to this ugly twit’s ignorance?
  
  It’s like looking into a black hole in a cave — a hole in which you can drop a boulder and never hear it hit.
  
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- Protoham
  Posted on October 27, 2012 at 2:10pm
  @Avenger
  
  That was funny!
  
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alrunner58
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 10:12pm
Rachel, you should be worried if anything happens to Obama. Do you really want the village idiot to be in charge? Thought you were a lot smarter, but you are a typical socialist.

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- oneshiner
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 10:41pm
  Thank the Lord I’ve never watched this misfit of a woman. Weird stuff comes from her mouth and I don’t even want to visualize what it might be, yuk, yukie.
  
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- mharry860
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 1:17am
  ONESHINER, I’m confused as to why people keep calling her Maddow, it’s Madcow! No one can refute this, it’s a fact, it’s true, just check the records!
  
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- carnivour
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 7:03am
  Waaaaahaha village idiot describes Mr. Q-ball balls perfectly.
  
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- Frederick_Douglass_Republican
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 9:07am
  I watched her talking with the sound off for about 5 minutes. She looks like someone who’s insane. Watching the first debate with the sound turned off gave oblamer the appearance of someone meandering about in a drug induced haze who is suddenly confronted by an authority figure wanting to know what they’ve been smoking. Getting the sound out of the way lets you look at their mannerisms and expressions without distraction. You see more of who they are and less of what they’re trying to sell. As for Bohner? He as a pink tie cry baby compromising loser. He needs to be voted out altogether IMO.
  
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- WakingSheep
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 11:01am
  Shut up! Shut up! Pinhead! -bill o
  
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- BlessedGirls2
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 4:48pm
  and that would be the morMan?
  
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garbagecanlogic
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 10:12pm
Perhaps if this mentally challenged moron would have spent less time chasing other females and focused on her studies in school, she would have at least an ounce of intelligence. I recently attempted to look up her background and was frustrated that I could not find it – then I realized I had been spelling it “madcow”.

Praise Be To Obama. Psalm 109:8

The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
The U.N. Out Of The U.S.

Praise Be To Obama. Psalm 109:8

The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
The U.N. Out Of The U.S.

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dinadp
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 10:08pm
Did she cheat to get her Rhodes scholarship??

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- CatB
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 10:19pm
  Yea .. like DUH … I knew she was wrong … plain old college graduate here .. I guess they give those Rhodes things out like Nobel Peace Prizes .. no brains required.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 11:18am
  Somebody should remind her just who and what Cecil Rhodes was.
  
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- BlessedGirls2
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 4:53pm
  Did you have to cheat to get your certificate allowing you to put those tips on shoe laces?
  
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Fatheroftwo
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 10:02pm
Here is another huge case of HUBs disease!!! If she ever pulled her head out it would be the POP heard around the world!!!!

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The-Monk
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 10:00pm
Does this mean we could have a President Biden and a VP Obama?

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 11:19am
  MONK, please, bite your tongue!
  
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scootervanneuter
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:57pm
Maddow has the IQ of Cocker Spaniel, but none of the warmth.

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- Bojaco
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 10:07pm
  I was thinking that she had more the IQ of a mosquito and ALL of the warmth…
  
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- BlessedGirls2
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 5:00pm
  Add your comments
  
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The-Monk
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:51pm
Hi Mike Opelka,

Thanks for the story. I’ve been wondering about this. : )

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Buddynoel
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:46pm
Interesting to hear if Romney has closed the gap in the Maine 2nd CD. I heard Carl Rove talk about spending money there, but an old poll shows the state being O +11.

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marcus_arealius
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:44pm
Poor dumb libs.. they live in 2 worlds simultaneously : 1) Where the world is what they perceive, far removed from reality, their Eutopia and 2) The Anticipitory Horrible Worst case scenario world where every awful thing will happen if they don’t get power to stop it.

The world of a lib is a true living HELL. A Eutopia they cannot, will never realize within a hellish world not of their making. Ughh.

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SITDOWNANDSHUTUP
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:43pm
A tie???????? Haha………..the dem lawyer army would be out in force trying to swing the closest state vote tally. They would count, and recount, and recount until they finally got enough votes. then they would sue everyone and their brother to rattify the Obama/Biden ticket.

Where do they get talking head people like Madcow????

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- Diane TX
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 10:23pm
  The Dems would find a box of “missed” ballots like they did with Al Franklin.
  
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- SITDOWNANDSHUTUP
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 11:31pm
  Where Madcow falls apart is her “what if” on the States vote. If 29 states vote for Romney, then there is NO WAY that 4 would switch sides. Also, there is no possible way to have a Romney/Biden outcome. What she is saying is not possible…….her input/output calculations are skewed.
  
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- Sosorryforyou
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 12:05pm
  Diane – and like the “misplaced” ballots for Scott Walker……
  
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- BlessedGirls2
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 4:56pm
  Sounds like bush/Gore 2000..exactly
  
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ZZBlueComet
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:41pm
This guy doesn’t know what he’s taking about – Romeny would be elected by the HOR – this dude needs to check his research.

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- Mikeramseyjr
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 10:43pm
  Yeah, and he was wrong about it being the next Congress too
  
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TommyGuns
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:37pm
I’m sorry, but I don’t understand your conclusion that it’s impossible for there to be a Romney/Biden result from an Electoral College tie. By your reasoning – that we vote for President and Vice President as a ticket – then it leads to the conclusion that a tie settled by the House necessarily binds the Senate to vote for the Vice Presidential candidate who ran on the same ticket. More simply, your reasoning says that if the House were to elect Romney President, then the Senate would have to vote for Ryan as Vice President. Sorry guys, but that’s neither how the XII Amendment is written, nor the intent of the Founding Fathers. They saw no problem with the idea of having the President and Vice President from two different parties.

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- chalkdust
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 12:11am
  “Martin Van Buren’s running mate, Richard M. Johnson, fell one vote short of a majority in the Electoral College”.
  
  Actually, the assertion that Van Buren did not choose Johnson is wrong. He in fact was Martin’s running mate. In 1800, before ratification of the 12th amendment, electors from the states only voted on the President and second place became the Vice President.
  
  After this, electors voted for both President and Vice President separately as it still is today. Because both President and VP receive the same amount of popular votes, it makes it less likely that a President would be forced to accept a VP not of his choosing.
  
  The Blaze got this wrong.
  
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- chalkdust
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 12:24am
  “They saw no problem with the idea of having the President and Vice President from two different parties”.
  
  That is kinda true. Originally, as I posted above, whoever had the second most amount of electoral votes became the Vice President. After the tie between Burr and Jefferson in 1800, the 12th amendment ratification made electors choose the VP and part of the reasoning was to allow the President to choose his VP.
  
  So it is true the founders, at least some, had no problem with having a VP from a different party but after a short time the wisdom in that fell short and the 12th amendment is in part a result of that.
  
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eyesopened
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:36pm
for crying out loud, Rachal…..I don’t care how you do it…or with who or what…..but please,can you put on a little make-up?

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- 1911CK
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:40pm
  guys shouldn’t wear makeup
  
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- b1966w
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:47pm
  I thought it was Rickey Maddow or was it Martin well same same.
  
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- GumRock
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 10:12pm
  Genetically Neutral.
  or , a chick trying to be a dude ,, umm or a dude trying to be a chick..
  I’m So Confused !
  
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Landfill
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:34pm
This is a woman with WAY too much time on her hands. I think a much more important question is: If Arnold Schwarzenegger went back in time, could he kill Sarah Connor before John Connor was born, thus altering the future?

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- JesterJay
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 9:34am
  No because John was born, if he wasn’t born then there would be no reason to go back in time to stop it thus letting it happen. However if Marty Mcfly doesn’t go back in time to have his parents dance at the Enchantment Under the Sea, then Doc would never know that the Flux Capacitor worked. If he never knew that it worked he never would have bought black market plutonium from Libians. If Doc had not funded terrorists in Libya then then there would have not been an attack on Benghazi. WOW the Benghazi attack was due to Back to the Future!
  
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bhops
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:33pm
That Madcow dude forgot to color Michigan, Ohio, New Hampshire and Pennsylvania red. Regardless, if just one of these does in fact go red, well then I guess Romney is the winner!

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Ducky657
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:32pm
Good old Hateful Madcow can always be counted upon to reflect talking points which have no basis in facts. To quote Rodney Dangerfield “the last time I saw a mouth like that it had a hook in it!” Notice how she took the worst picture ever taken of John Boehner to make him look even worse. Most of what this woman talks about make no sense since none of their audience is close to being even a moderate –never mind any conservatives. What good does it do to spout your venom to people who already believe everything you are saying? Here is an idea–if you are going to try to sell a ridiculous story at least have it be somewhat related to reality.

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blackyb
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:31pm
Wonder whose little boy Maddow is trying to be?

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blackyb
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:30pm
Notice all the blue states are along borders or waters? They keep moving the illegals and leftists into this country and they seem to gather at the border states or oceans.

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foxrocks
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:30pm
And to think there are people dumb enough to watch the Ray Madcow show…..Lib idiot, babbling like Fat Ed and Chrissy tingles……get the wagon out for these three Nov. 6 when their dictater looses the election, and put em in the insane asylum, especially poor tingles…….that is one sick puppy

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blackyb
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:29pm
Maddow should grow a beard or become one.

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djeffcoat
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:28pm
And what if Barry and Joe are both impeached between now and inauguration day? Speaker of the House becomes POTUS. It could happen. I only wish.

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Stelex
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:26pm
Rachel….isn’t that a girls name? This is obviously a confused young lad, I do hope he meets the right woman and figures it out. The low cut V neck thing makes him look a little gay but I don’t want to judge. I don’t know this fellow……..but he is obviously confused. I’d hate to find out he’s “Gay”. Not judging just saying.

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- blackyb
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:34pm
  lol. That was funny. Couldnotta said it better meself. lol.
  
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- blackyb
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:35pm
  I think she is a girl, well sorta.
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:39pm
  It’s a major goal of man-hating lesbians like Maddow et al to replace the men in the Liberal sphere. They realize that the supposedly “straight” Liberal females have basically castrated their men, so they will in time… step in to fill the male roles in a Liberal society.
  
  It is OUR job to stop ALL of their agendas. We can leave the Liberal male unichs the way they are though… we need someone to go fetch the wood and clean the latrines etc…
  
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- timarina
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 10:06pm
  Have you ever felt an emotion that wasn’t hate. The answers you seek are inside yourself. Good luck.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 10:15pm
  Hi TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12,
  
  Didn’t Star Trek, with James T Kirk, do a show on your idea?
  
  Landed on a Planet ran by women….
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 10:26pm
  LOL… MONK. Yes I remember that. Can’t remember it all that clearly, but I think they were far better looking than our man-hating Liberal Lesbians… but looked to kill Kirk and crew in the end anyways… right??
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 11:51pm
  Hi TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12,
  
  The way I remember it the men were household servants and sex slaves. When they tried to make Kirk a sex slave he pleased the head “woman” so well that she fell under his “spell” and the “society” was set right. LOL : )
  
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- TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 5:32am
  @MONK…. okay, will have to try and catch a rerun and set my mind right! Lol.
  
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- CaptPK_in_the_Gulf
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 8:51am
  “Spock’s Brain” – The men of the society that steal Spock’s brain live on the surface of the planet like neanderthal while the women lived in an underground “city” in scanty clothing. The women had all the comforts of a controlled environment (controlled by Spock’s brain) and tricked the men on the surface to bring them below to perpetuate the species (as it were). Nothing was mentioned about “recreational encounters” however. In the end McCoy was able to re-install Spock’s brain to it’s original enclosure which forced the women to return to the surface of the planet and learn how to live with the “brutish” men. Interestingly enough, the women of this society were complete morons with the I.Q. of four year olds.
  
  Although I was a Scify nut and Star Trek fan from it’s first airing in 1967 through all of it’s iterations (except “Voyager” and it’s female captain – sorry) I will be the first to say that the social ideas behind most of the Star Trek stories were VERY progressive and liberal. There were several stories that addressed the (supposed) befits and pitfalls of a matriarchal society.
  
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- CaptPK_in_the_Gulf
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 9:32am
  Here’s an interesting little tidbit – “Spock’s Brain” was the first episode of the third (and last) season. Apparently, because of budget cuts from NBC, The entire production crew felt this was THE worst episode filmed during the entire three year run.
  
  Seems the network run by liberals, lesbians, gays, and a high-school mentality have been “mucking” things up since the 60′s! This also explains why I no longer find anything worth watching on the Scifi channel – it’s owned by NBC. (oh – sorry – SyFy – these high-schoolers can’t even spell Science Fiction right)
  
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- topper4125
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 11:21am
  OF COURSE HE’S CONFUSED! That’s what the entirity of this television stars First Show (The wonder years) was all about. Things would have been so much better if he would have just hooked up with little Winnie Cooper.
  
  Google Rachel Maddow looks exactly like Fred Savage.
  
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Psychosis
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:21pm
that Rachel dude ( weird name for a dude) is a bumbling rhodes scholar IDIOT

by the way lib trolls, to be a rhodes scholar does not require you or prove you to be intelligent in any way , as evidenced daily on his/her/its show

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- 1TrueOne55
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 10:02pm
  Clinton was one to and he was not smart enough to keep his pants zipped.
  
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- historyguy48
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 7:24am
  1tureone55; Would you keep your pants zipped if you were married to Hillary?
  
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- RedDawn2012
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 10:01am
  Rhodes scholarships, founded and funded by a Marxist, go only to those who are STRONGLY amenable to Marxist socialism, and the curriculum is thoroughly saturated with that philosophy. Obama would have been a perfect candidate for it, but he had already been selected to go the Columbia/Harvard route instead. I’ll take a Mormon anytime over one of these evil fools.
  
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sillyfreshness
Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:20pm
I really like her manly haircut.

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- blackyb
  Posted on October 25, 2012 at 9:38pm
  Maybe you really like his girly haircut. Lol. Hillary must really be pleased with this Doberman.
  
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- BlessedGirls2
  Posted on October 26, 2012 at 4:58pm
  I am sure she realy cares about what you think..is it with your brain or are you using another strange body part for this function? just curious!
  
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