A website promoting Michigan’s pro-union “Proposal 2,” an initiative that would incorporate collective bargaining rights into the state’s constitution, claims hundreds of small businesses support the ballot measure.
However, according to a new report from Michigan Capitol Confidential, many of the businesses listed on the “Protect Working Families” website are there without the permission or knowledge of the business owners:
The specialty candy store Kilwins, for example, was listed on the website without the owner’s knowledge. This is all the more surprising considering the fact that it wasn’t too long ago Michigan unions were picketing Kilwins for using non-union laborers.
“What’s the address that they got that on?” Don McCarty, president of Kilwins Candy Stores, asked in a phone interview with the Mackinac Center for Public Policy. “Because that’s absolutely not our position.”
The MCC report continues:
A check of other businesses found that many had no public presence on the Internet or in web business data bases. One went out of business last year. Several were linked to activist websites, while some had no idea their business was listed on a Proposal 2 website at all. And some businesses that actively support collective bargaining in the state constitution did not want a union in their shop.
The Mackinac Center for Public Policy, with help from the Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity, visited a number of businesses on the “Main Street” list over the last couple of weeks. Nearly half were located in Macomb County on only a handful of streets.
To put it in political terms, what the Mackinac Center for Public Policy, with help from the Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity, found was the equivalent of dead people registered to vote.
“One of the things I could tell just by walking that block was that the Proposal 2 supporter who walked that block went door-to-door-to-door,” said Benjamin Yount of the Franklin Center.
Of the business owners who do recall signing something about ballot initiatives, many of them claim that they didn’t know that they would end up on a pro-union “Proposal 2” website, some say they didn’t know what “Proposal 2” was, and one business owner even claims she changed her mind after she found out what “Proposal 2” stood for.
However, that’s not to say every business owner in that area is opposed to “Proposal 2.” Some signed up to display a sticker in their shop’s window to “support their union customer base.”
“A sticker ended up in my window because they came door-to-door to businesses … and they want you to support the union and everything like that,” said tattoo artist Alvin Cardin. “Some things I support on the union, a lot of things nowadays I don’t.”
But even Cardin has some misgivings about unions.
“The union has gotten out of control and it has cost a lot of people businesses. It has cost a lot of people jobs. It’s going to hurt the economy in some ways,” he added.
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cassandra
Oct. 26, 2012 at 4:59pmUNION workers just don’t get it ( they are SHEEP ) they allow unions to TAKE unions dues out of their hard earned checks spend millions of dollars from the pension fund to campaign for someone who when gets elected raises their taxes and sends businesses packing so in turn they get laid off or lose their jobs WAKE UP
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CatB
Oct. 26, 2012 at 6:52pmJust posted this on Michigan NEWSPAPER website .. they are NOT reporting this FRAUD by the UNIONS.
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love the kids
Oct. 26, 2012 at 8:33pmI am a union worker in a coal plant under the IBEW. We are slowly being shut down and units are being taken off line. I have to pay high union dues and workers are being slid around wherever the company wants to put them even when it goes against the contract and sticks other union workers. The union leader seems to cut deals left and right with management and then looks you in the face and say that he won’t cut any deals. It is only a matter of time before we are shut down entirely, and yet, the union still passes out stickers saying that we support Obama, it is disgusting.
The strange part is that natural gas is one of the things hurting us so much right now. I wonder when Obama will stop fracking, he hasn’t said anything yet because he is using it to put the coal plants out of business, but once they are out, I guarantee that he will suddenly go after fracking, and then electricity will go up even more.
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G-WHIZ
Oct. 28, 2012 at 9:50am“SPREAD THE WEALTH!!” Not!! In Wisconsin…PUBLIC UNION wages and bennifnts so high the TAXPAYERS collected-taxes cannot pay their bill!! Then…guessWhat? EVERYONE IN THE PUBLIC UNION INSTANTLY LOOSES THEIR JOBS!! The Progeressive Democrats will NEVER loose 1cent of their millions of dollars in “state-funding” and perks, but As soon as the funding dries-up, THE UNION PEONS will be fired! The Progressive-Dems/leming-peons have bought tooooo much stuff on their credit and way-to much house/NOT paidfor!! They’re toooo GREEDY to take a paycut to save ALL their jobs! Lookit all the NONUNION workers who will also lose their jobs along with them!! The IN THE POCKET-MSM will nover tell you about them…they are told to SHUTUP!
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chicago76
Oct. 26, 2012 at 4:59pmMe and my friends are voting straight republican. Yes prop1, No the rest of the props. Don’t need them don’t want them. All back door ways to increase costs to all of us and nothing more.
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Conservative2
Oct. 26, 2012 at 10:43pmAlready did that here via absentee ballot, couldn’t find a decent democrat to vote for either. Had to spend hours searching beliefs and affiliations of the Court candidates since Mi. lists them non political.
You know dam well that their affiliations matter too.
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Misty Williams
Oct. 26, 2012 at 4:51pmLive in Michigan. Don’t support Prop 2.
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SCREW-WINDOWS
Oct. 26, 2012 at 6:15pmThere are several Union power grabs on the ballot prop 2 and prop 4.
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Goobergregory
Oct. 26, 2012 at 6:31pmSame here… as a matter of fact I am voting no on most of the ballot proposals. I am uncertain about 6 though. Still thinking it over… would you give me your thought on it as well. I d not like anything that changes a State’s Constitution anymore because we have seen how once the camel gets it’s nose under the tent the rest of it can get in more easily!
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TulsaYeeHaw
Oct. 26, 2012 at 7:54pmAnd here I thought the locusts were moving on….That’s what I get for thinking, guess they aren’t done trying to destroy Michigan. :(
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SCREW-WINDOWS
Oct. 26, 2012 at 9:01pm@ Goobergregory
Do you want the say to build or not build the bridge which will most likely cost the taxpayers or give the state free reign to spend money on the bridge that will do little to help the state. Michigan is a logistical problem much like an island only a few ways in and a few ways out. A bridge to Chicago or any main route of traffic or trade route would be a good investment but we are isolated from major routes. I voted yes as I don’t want the State deciding where or when they build a bridge.
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Conservative2
Oct. 26, 2012 at 10:46pmSupport Proposal #1 yes, because the Idiots running Detroit blew it, what makes you think they do better the 2nd time around
All others vote NO, because they want to amend the state constitution and that’s a No No!
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Centurian
Oct. 27, 2012 at 12:09amI happen to live just outside of Flint, Michigan, and I am voting no to all of them. We don’t need to mess with the State Constitution.
By the way, no on 5 and 6 because they are being pushed by Matty Moroun, who happens to own the Ambassador bridge. Prop 5 makes it difficult for the Michigan Congress to change the current tax laws, which he doesn’t want done. Prop 6, if passed, would stop the building of a second bridge with Canada. Moroun doesn’t want this, because it would mean he would no longer get all of the toll money. The man is slime…
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cassandra
Oct. 26, 2012 at 4:49pmIF YOU LIVE MI. send this out to your friends VOTE yes on prop 1 VOTE NO on prop 2 VOTE NO on prop 3 VOTE NO on prop 4 VOTE YES on prop 5 VOTE YES on prop 6 state board of ED Todd A. Courser and Melanie Kurdys Uof M Regent Robert Steele and Dan Horning Mi.State Trustee Jeff Sakwa and Melanie Foster Wayne State University Michael Busutio and Satish Jasti Michigan Supreme Court-open seat Colleen O’Brien Let’s not sit down and let the unions take over our Constitution and let’s start taking back our SCHOOLS
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Conservative2
Oct. 26, 2012 at 10:49pmNOoooo!
Proposal 1 Yes, all others NO!
You don’t want the Unions fingers in our state constitution, you do not want the state constitution amended at all!
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Owt_Raged
Oct. 26, 2012 at 4:25pmUnions lying? You don’t say? Who would have thought?!!!!
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Michigan Vacation
Oct. 26, 2012 at 4:47pmIf you happen to live in Michigan – VOTE NO ON 2.
If you have relatives who live in Michigan – call them and tell them to VOTE NO ON 2.
If you have free time – go on some Michigan news website and blog VOTE NO ON 2.
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MyAlaska
Oct. 26, 2012 at 4:23pm“Yes, I would like my company to be at the mercy of my workforce. Yes, I would like my payroll to place my product into the non-competitve category. Yes, I would like to constantly live under the threat of being shut down by striking employees.”
Thank you,
- Business
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jessieH
Oct. 26, 2012 at 4:17pmIn my opinion, the unions can take their support and shove it farther up Obama’s backside.
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Conservative2
Oct. 26, 2012 at 10:57pmIf you take a hard look at JOBS “saved or created”, isn’t it odd that the Unions were saved and created here in MI. Just ask SEIU, Granholm set that one up! Obama has fully supported the Unions, stimulus funds were spent saving Teachers, Fireman, Law enforcement and just about everything that is Unionized while private sector workers were left out in the cold! Even today his plan for the future is to hire more Teachers aka code words for UNION!
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SITDOWNANDSHUTUP
Oct. 26, 2012 at 4:05pmWhen will people wake up?????
Unions are killing this country. UAW, construction union workers, teachers unions, Hollywood actors unions, city street cleaners unions, grocery store union, airline workers unions, airline pilots unions, etc etc etc etc etc………..
None of the foreign auto factories in the USA have unions. The Toyota factory making Camrys was very clear…..”one hint of unionization and we are gone”. Workers at these factories earn very good wages.
I have seen first hand the waste and corruption with unions. They are the cancer to this country and they will ultimately kill us as a nation. Everything that can be outsourced, will be.
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mike551
Oct. 26, 2012 at 3:57pmMaybe the good citizens of Dearborne will chip in an extra few bucks from family overseas to pay the higher taxes. IMPEACH THE MUSLIM OBAMA NOW!!! GET US OUT OF THE UN!!!
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The-Monk
Oct. 26, 2012 at 3:56pmStore owner, “No, I don’t support any Union and I’m not on any Union website that I know of.”
Union rep, “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPOb3DlB7WA”
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hidden_lion
Oct. 26, 2012 at 4:07pmUnions are communist thugs and should be banned as gangs and terrorists. Individuals have a right to bargain for their own wages and benefits. If the employee knows what they are worth they can work for the company that values their hard workers and pays them accordingly.
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LSU007
Oct. 26, 2012 at 3:55pmJust another example of union lies.
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Mapex
Oct. 26, 2012 at 3:46pmI live in Detroit, I work in Detroit. Do you want to know what most Michigan residents call UAW members? Maggots!!
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Jimd2411
Oct. 26, 2012 at 3:17pmNote from Michigan: I’m voting “no.” Praying I’m not alone.
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hidden_lion
Oct. 26, 2012 at 4:10pmyou are not alone, but unfortunately, there is nobody against this commie prop that is getting the message out. I have received 3 calls advertising this garbage. Lucky for the southern lady on the phone, I was not home to answer or she would have received an earful.
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SCREW-WINDOWS
Oct. 26, 2012 at 6:21pmThe wise are with you.
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RaydocX
Oct. 26, 2012 at 3:10pmi trained with a doc who moonlit at a detroit automaker…
he had a union employee come in, saying he needed to go home, his foot hurt.
asked his job, he was supposed to get into a car and test the clutch/ brake/ accelerator… 5 cars an hour. and it hurt his ankle doing that.
‘so how are you doing to get home?’ my friend asked.
‘i’m going to drive, why?’
there are LOTS of great union workers… the vast majority.
and there have been cases where a union was VITAL to the protection of the worker.
that is not the case in the current auto industry, where the purpose of the union has become to further empower the union at the expense of the employer, the workers, and non-union workers… they have become what the initial unions were fighting against. and BHO and his minions have helped them.
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hidden_lion
Oct. 26, 2012 at 4:14pm“there are lots of great union workers..”
But 100% of those POS union members support communism and the destruction of the very business’s that they work for. Their dues pay for the hoffa’s and trumpkas and get demo-commies elected into office. Every last union dues paying bass turd needs to be banned from working anything but McDonalds.
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pap pap
Oct. 26, 2012 at 3:00pmUnions, liberals liars and spoinled brats all.
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HKS
Oct. 26, 2012 at 2:58pmWhy did Obama save the union wages and benefits and screw the non-union workers in the auto industry bailouts out of their benefits and pensions? Obama and Guitner conspired against all those non-union or (professional workers, engineers etc.) to ruin their lives at the expense of unions. Is that called payback to the unions? So when your talking about Michigan unions, know the whole story.
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iamnotu
Oct. 26, 2012 at 2:48pmUnions, who needs em? Oh right, probably half of the auto workers, otherwise they would be out of work for being lazey theiving drunken aholes.
These proposals in michigan, both 2 & 4 are directly driven by Unions themselves. If you see a commercial where they say kids will die cause we can’t bargain for equipment, Lie! First of all, when do they ever bargain for equipment?
Number 4 is driven by SEIU to pump up their member roles and dues and that is all it’s for.
I wish someone would put a vote on the ballot to amend the constitution and make unions in MI illegal. I’m with you PROGRESSIVESLAYER, F EM all!
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hidden_lion
Oct. 26, 2012 at 4:15pmI second the motion
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Goobergregory
Oct. 26, 2012 at 6:37pmI sooooooo agree… Unions had thier place a very long time ago… but the time is over and “We the People” have had enough. I get so pissed when I see that stupid commercial saying it is for “The Kids” LIARS ALL!
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Conservative2
Oct. 26, 2012 at 11:19pmPeople have to realize there are consequences to a Business being unionized, union employees think it’s great since a job like assembly line worker with absolutely no skills what so ever, place a screw or set of screws into a designated spot as each car passes by him. A minimum wage worker at best right?
Well the Union defines that job as $27 and hour plus benefits, way out of touch but then again your dues are based on percentage of this amount! 10% of $7.50 or 10% of $27, get it now? So in the appearance they are helping these workers, all they’re really doing is padding the Unions funds.
Now IF you think us Non-union workers are not effected by this pay scale BS, think again! I worked for GM Oldsmobile division in 69, bought a brand new 442 with employee discounts for $2800. Now compare that to today’s modern equivalent Chevy since Olds is now gone, the costs now are in the range of $30,000! Now you can’t tell me costs of materials and improvements drove that price that high! Nope! It was the Unions steadily increases in wages that are passed on to the buyers, because inflation has not increased that much!
Another example of Union wages and how it effects our costs, NFL, use to be able to buy tickets for $7, then $12, $18, $24 and now the current ones, all went up because of the Unions!
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HKS
Oct. 26, 2012 at 2:38pmWow, did I miss something, since when do unions speak for business.
AmericanScientist
Oct. 26, 2012 at 2:38pmWhat are the laws for this type fraud action should be taken to correct this. They may be testing the waters to try fraudulently voting in the president. I believe it’s going to be a land slide victory for Romney but if there was voter fraud and the president got in would he be ousted or would they just shrug their shoulders and say deal with it?
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PAPPA_BEAR
Oct. 26, 2012 at 2:37pmThe Michigan “Collective Bargaining” Proposals in Michigan are downright scary. Massive, massive attempt to put the unions into control via our State Constitution.
As a Volunteer Firefighter, I’ve got people coming up to me at the grocery store telling me they will support the firefighters to get more gear and equipment. The unions are running a complete and effective campaign of deceit. Once I explain that I have been called a “Scab” by some that support this proposal, they look at me like a stun grenade just went off.
It’s bull**** and I hope it will draw conservatives to the ballot boxes.
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denbren52
Oct. 26, 2012 at 2:28pmIf Proposal 2 passes, it is the end of the road for Michigan’s economy. No business would EVER relocate to a State where collective bargaining rights are in the State’s Constitution and taxes will be outrageously high for the people that remain here. They may as well call it the economic suicide proposal.
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PatriotDadOfSix
Oct. 26, 2012 at 2:25pmThis was the Union intimidation story from Gov Walkers recall snafu. Remember? They were telling businesses and shops to put the sign up ‘Or Else’? Prop 2 is going down in flames as are the Unions.
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JBaer
Oct. 26, 2012 at 2:23pmWow! How sleazy can they get? Where is their integrity?
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barber2
Oct. 26, 2012 at 2:29pmJB: Remember, we are talking UNIONS here . Integrity ? No , Intimidation.
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progressiveslayer
Oct. 26, 2012 at 2:14pmThe unions and that idiot Granholm have killed enough jobs in Michigan and I already voted no on prop 2.
These union pigs will say or do anything to protect the monopoly that is unions,F EM all and make them extinct.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Oct. 26, 2012 at 2:10pmThe unions know their Obama-gravy train is about to derail soon, and are going mad.
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