Andrew Sullivan is not exactly known for an ability to give unbiased analysis, especially where President Barack Obama is concerned. In fact, he’s generally seen as the fons et origo of some of the more unhinged ideas emanating from Obama’s supporters, such as the idea that Trig Palin wasn’t really Sarah Palin’s son, or the idea that all criticism of President Obama is built on subconscious bigotry.
And on today’s “This Week” panel with George Stephanopoulos, Sullivan showed why that reputation persists.
“If Virginia and Florida go back to the Republicans, it’s the Confederacy,” Sullivan sneered. “Entirely. You put a map of the Civil War over this electoral map, you’ve got the Civil War.”
Conservative columnist George Will rolled his eyes and fired back.
“A lot of white people who voted for Obama in 2008 watched him govern for four years and said, ‘Not so good. Let’s try someone else.’ The alternative, the ‘Confederacy’ hypothesis is that those people somehow, for some reason in the last four years became racist.”
Sullivan pushed back, claiming he was talking about the “Southernization” of the Republican party (which apparently persists in spite of the fact that the current nominee is from Massachusetts). He argued that the only places where the white vote was turning on Obama were in Southern states.
As Will pointed out, this is demonstrably false. The President is trailing with white voters nationwide, though the margins may not be wide enough to ensure a Romney victory in some states.
Watch Sullivan’s outburst below, courtesy of ABC News’ YouTube channel:





















































































































Comments (248)
Maidoff101
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:36pmYou think Their unhinged now, just wait till after Nov 6!
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PATTY HENRY
Oct. 29, 2012 at 12:28amOH GOOD GRIEF!!! IT’S TRUE…it’s all about OBAMA’S color (well TWO COLORS ACTUALLY:)
YELLOW
and
RED.
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BootsAreWalkin
Oct. 29, 2012 at 1:07amPatty…scores…direct…hit.
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BrianSTC
Oct. 29, 2012 at 5:48amAccording to Wikipedia, Andrew Sullivan “describes himself as a political conservative.” LOL! This guy is more liberal than Obama…
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Danthebugman
Oct. 29, 2012 at 6:20amWhen “johnny comes marchin home again….hoorah, hoorah……………” If my history serves me right, it was Southern white DEMOCRATS that supported secession. Although the Yankee North owned slaves as well, blacks were primarily slaves to Democrat slave holders in the South. Abe Lincoln, a Republican, was the author of the Emancipation Proclamation. THIS IS NOT ABOUT RACE LIB LOON! As the true white liberal Democrat from Louisia declared, this year, “it’s the economy stupid”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TruthMonkey
Oct. 29, 2012 at 7:10amWhat?? Dis aint true?
Dagnabit I already been cleanin my shotgun and storin grits for da fight. Ma and Pa told me we goanna shoot us some yankees. Even my old yeller hound daug was a ready to fight.
Really dis here man is lyin?
Well dats just not right for a feller to make a good ole boy get all excited for notin. I was just a hankerin for a fight.
Oh well guess I oughta just get on back down to da still and make me some more shine and sing Dixie.
What maroon. The left is really getting desperate now. As for this lying Limie shut the h.e.ll up and get the h.e.ll out of our country…
BTW sorry to all you good Yankees for having to listen to such a dumb a.s.s.
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Gonzo
Oct. 29, 2012 at 7:14amThe sky is falling! The sky is falling!
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cosette
Oct. 29, 2012 at 7:18am@Brian….. Wikipedia is about as honest and reliable as the administration.
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TruthMonkey
Oct. 29, 2012 at 7:25amGonzo
It is falling if your in Obamas administartion. Or maybe its a drone????
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poorrichard09
Oct. 29, 2012 at 8:59amPoor, pitiful Andrew. His messiah is just a mere mortal.
Get him a padded room, right next to the one Chris Matthews will be in.
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MRMADMAN
Oct. 29, 2012 at 9:28amDoesn’t even occur to these people that maybe its the minorities that might be racist.
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Jaycen
Oct. 29, 2012 at 11:54am@PATTY HENRY
Spot. On.
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SocialistSlayer
Oct. 29, 2012 at 12:28pmWhat’s a “Andrew Sullivan ” Some kind of newly discovered North American Ape ?
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Secret Squirrel
Oct. 29, 2012 at 3:24pm.
I remember when we laughed at the stupid things people said.
Now we call them “journalists”.
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lovesapplepie
Oct. 29, 2012 at 7:47pm@maidoff101 That post made my day
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wisehiney
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:34pmMany of the smart Yankees are moving South. I personally know 7 retired NYC police officers who retired early with very nice pensions and healthcare etc who have their NYC and New York State money sent to them here in NC to invest and spend here. They do not want their families in that jungle when the crap hits the fan. You do not wanna be there if the power goes down with this storm. Y’all keep sending your best and keep the rest.
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soybomb315_II
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:43pmIn VA they keep sending us their liberals. The southern exodus needs to stop
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Oct. 28, 2012 at 9:31pmYou can keep ‘em. We don’t need any know-it-all twig boys around here in SW Ohio. We’re doing just fine without them. I’ve been to NY and people just aren’t friendly there, traffic is hell. I hear the taxes are very high. Why anyone would want to live there is beyond me.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Oct. 28, 2012 at 9:32pmSOY. Those Libs know you’re voting for Gary Johnson and they want your dope. Birds of a feather tend to sniff each other out…. runny coke noses aside…
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love the kids
Oct. 28, 2012 at 9:39pmEveryone knows that racism still exists, the Progressives make sure it stays alive. The first time I am allowed to criticise a black president, and nobody calls me a racist, then I will know that a major step has been taken.
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Ilikepeople
Oct. 28, 2012 at 9:41pm“The Confederacy is back?” That’s the dumbest thing to say. I think it’s very clear to me that Democrats still keep blacks on the Democrat plantation. I look at it this way: in the old Confederate South plantation owners gave food, and clothes to slaves, and the slaves lived in run down shacks with dirt floors provided by the plantation owners. Poor people who worked farming who were not slaves lived in run down houses that maybe had wooden floor, but were dirty floors because the vacuum cleaner hadn’t been invented yet. Moreover, the ration in the difference of lifestyles between slaves and poor working free people is the same today as it was 165 years ago. Because blacks are still on the Democrat plantation.
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muffythetuffy
Oct. 28, 2012 at 9:41pmTHIS IS GOOD NEWS
The South is now the wealthy industrial power and the North is the slave state. Do it.
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drs1969
Oct. 28, 2012 at 9:45pmWell. NC wouldn’t have voted BHO in 2008, if not for all the fools who have moved down here in the last 20 years.
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muffythetuffy
Oct. 28, 2012 at 9:49pmThe Jungle they helped to make with their corruption and illegal activity. You really need people like them. What will you do when NYC checks stop coming.
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BIGWUN
Oct. 28, 2012 at 10:17pmTo summarize more succinctly Andrew:
Elect the Mormon. Dump the Moron.
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jrc99
Oct. 29, 2012 at 4:45amI did. I’m a native Oregonian who lives in VA now!…..That’s because I’m stationed there. :-D
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DIR
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:32pmAndrew Sullivan: If Romney Wins Virginia, Florida, the ‘Confederacy’ Is Back
Well at this stage anything is better than Barry. Nevertheless, don’t worry Andy, well maybe you should, the left is the one threatening riots and rebellion. I get it, you’re saying the left will reignite the confederacy. Well, youall give it your best shot. Andy he be singing: “I wished I was in the land of cotton, where my breath stinks and feet are rotten ……”:
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TruthMonkey
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:37pmYep and we are going to feed andy to the gators. YEEEEEEE HAAWWWWWW
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ShyLow
Oct. 28, 2012 at 9:03pmWhite people just aren’t hating other white people as much as the God-less,race baiting,femenized left needs to further their transformation of this country
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RamonPreston
Oct. 28, 2012 at 9:14pmI agree with you. If Jesus Christ told me to vote for Obama I would have to think twice about it.
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muffythetuffy
Oct. 28, 2012 at 9:47pmThe first US Articles of Confederations prior to the US Constitution was better than what we now have and can be easily reinstated today. Americans are ready to brake away and leave the neo-Communist to their own destiny. We will not allow them in to our new homeland. They can all go to hell. When the world learns of a new nation of Freedom and Liberty they will flock to join and we will be very selective of who we let in. We will be a major energy exporting nation and that will help.
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SIXFRIGATES
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:32pmWhy would anyone care what this tool says? He is clearly delusional and has no concept of objectivity.. To him it’s vote for the black guy, even if he wants to destroy you or you are a racist. He looks even dumber than he sounds.
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Oneirishman
Oct. 28, 2012 at 9:32pmYet it’s somehow not racist for 98% of the Black population to vote for the Black Boy!
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CatB
Oct. 28, 2012 at 11:41pmI am a northerner .. born and raised conservative — in Michigan .. got sick of all the unions and taxes and relocated to Florida (southwest FL conservative area) … if I remember correctly (and I think I do since I went to school before all the politically correct rewritten history books in school) the southern racists were DEMOCRATS! Robert Byrd ring a bell with anyone?
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mercenary4freedom
Oct. 29, 2012 at 12:05amAs long as his dear leader supports the gay lifestyle, thats all that matters to this toolbag & the likes. They will say anything to get their base to distract from obama’s epic failure. Sheeeit, obama can’t even lie very good.
We’re reading you like a book Barry, you lying manipulating coward.
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chucksue351
Oct. 29, 2012 at 6:00amuntil they figured out how to steal their vote and still keep them on the plantation (dole)
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chips1
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:30pmThis time they will be free from Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, Powell and the other Plantation owners.
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Do The Right Thing
Oct. 29, 2012 at 12:42amThe owebama gov’t will be over O only
B bad
A americans
M may
A apply
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Spinetti
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:29pmIf the Confederacy does come back because of Virginia and Florida going Romney on us, I guess Sullivan is talking slabery here. WOW–just picture it–if Sullivan is right about this–there will be slabes everywhere–not just in Virginia and Florida–but everywhere. They will be everywhere, they will be everywhere. There will be slabes all over the place–even in Minnesota I bet. OK, you are right–I know it is cold in Minnesota but slabes will still end up in Minnesota if Virginia and Florida go Romney on us. That’s just the way it works. Once Virginia and Florida go, everybody goes. That is, if Virginia and Florida go Romney on the world, get ready for everybody to Romney and start having slabes. Hitlery Clinton will have slabes, Walmart will have slabes–and yes–even Tiger Woodman will have slabes, too. There will be slabes everywhere. You know, you just know, you just know the whole slabery extravaganza will spread all the way to England and Queen Elizabeth, too–even Queen Elizabeth will end up having slabes along with the rest of us. You know this, you just know this. All this just because Virginia and Florida go Romney on the world. I can’t believe it, I just can’t believe it. Slabery will be the new I-Phone, slabery will be the new Big Mac, slabery will even be the new American Idol–hell, slabery will even be the new NASCAR. I am humbled, I am in awe. Thank you for your support.
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Just_Bubba
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:38pmDang…I about split a gut on that one. It was what I was thinking but I couldn’t do it justice.
You nailed it.
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soybomb315_II
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:44pmIronically, if VA and FL go for Romney – we will still be slaves to the federal government
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Just_Bubba
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:46pmI wonder how much a plantation license will cost. Should be able to balance the budget on slabery fees.
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conserve48
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:29pmWho the hell is Andrew Sullivan and who cares what he says. I’d bet he is a rocket scientist. Makes total sense to me. NOT…..
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DOra Glasberg
Oct. 28, 2012 at 11:01pmHe’s a Conservative who wrote for the NATIONAL REVIEW for a decade.
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The-Monk
Oct. 28, 2012 at 11:44pm@Dora
I feel your pain. I’ve known and counseled many libs that were about to explode with all the pent-up anger they felt for their side and themselves. Don’t worry… after your obvious upcoming mental breakdown we on the right will be here for you. It’s only a matter of time and time is running out for you based on the progression of you posts.
Yep, seen it many times. You’ll be a Republican in no time. Just keep up the hate. You know, just like Darth Vader. He turned and so….. will…… you……. Here’s a nice happy face for you. : )
Just look in the mirror….. you’re toast.
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DOra Glasberg
Oct. 29, 2012 at 12:53amSullivan still identifies as a conservative.
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mr.goodvibe
Oct. 29, 2012 at 7:11amDora,
The visionary Charles Daniels warned that the South will rise again, be afraid, be very afraid! moohaha!
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Gregory_Adams
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:24pmSullivan’s comments are in line with his previous comments. If you vote against a black president, you must be racist. If you don’t support gay marriage or the gay lifestyle, you are a homophobe. If you don’t support global redistribution of wealth you are a selfish 1%er. The fact is ABC invited him on their news show and treated his opinion as mainstream.
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Gary_K
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:21pmCOMCAST Brian L. Roberts CEO http://blog.comcast.com/contact_author.html?mailTo=Brian%20L.%20Roberts
Let the networks know what you think.
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PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:40pmThey are using fear to try to get white people to vote for 0. If whites don’t vote for 0 there will will be civil war or race riots. Well, I am not afraid nor will I be intimidated by a gay, white shill of the demon party because by cowering to this you will lose freedom of responsibility to vote you conscience, common sense, values, principles, and self-respect. I WILL NOT COMPLY WITH INTIMIDATION MENTALITY. Forthermore, I know right from wrong and 0 is so very, very wrong for America The Beautiful and A United People Under One Divine Trinity of God’s Grace and Prosperity for ALL.
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justasurvivor
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:20pmObviously! Just like when Reagan won them in 1984. You saw the Confederacy created from THAT win.
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Metallicat
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:19pmThat is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Republicans have won VA and FL before and it never resulted in “the rise of the south”. These race baiters are desparate.scare tactics and screaming racism is all they have left. stupid predicatable liberals.
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Gary_K
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:22pmIts all they have.
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762x51
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:40pmBesides, the Confederacy was comprised of DEMOCRATS, they fundamentally disagreed with Abraham Lincoln, a Republican, fka Whig. If the Confederacy agreed with Lincoln they would have freed their slaves and there would have been NO Civil War.
Andrew Sullivan is just another liberal moron educated by the teachers union.
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RJJinGadsden
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:53pmThe Confederacy was built by the Democrats. The post war South were primarily Democrats. These Southern states did not become Republican until the mid ’80s when the liberals ran them from the party. This is pure BS.
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The-Monk
Oct. 28, 2012 at 9:21pmHi RJJ,
Enjoy…
Lena Dunham: Your First Time PARODY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAkdHzpXXo0&feature=player_embedded
BTW; The Blaze will be doing a “best parodies” later on tonight….
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TeresaJ
Oct. 28, 2012 at 10:59pm“Republicans have won VA and FL before”
That’s exactly what I was thinking.
I wonder if this guy realizes that no one down here considers Floridians to be “Southern.”
Source- I’m a Floridian with ‘Bama roots (thats Alabama for the uninitiated).
Btw I voted today. ^^
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mercenary4freedom
Oct. 29, 2012 at 12:54amObama is really pushing this early voting. Somethings up, he may have a concocted crisis in order by the 6th. Keep an eye on this slimey, devious bastard.
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OccamsSword
Oct. 29, 2012 at 2:54amMerc, sure its just the Alinsky “vote early and vote often ” strategy.
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Stiggs
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:18pmAndrew – you so full of drama. Shame, because the Obama team has already worn out the words, ‘hope and change’, ‘jobs’ and ‘war’ and ‘racist’. Sorry, I left out ‘apartment’.
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Fitzzz
Oct. 28, 2012 at 10:33pmAndrew is a Drama Queen, and I bet he will be the first to admit that
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lexington_green
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:18pmso this is all they have left huh? racism.
all else has truly failed the loony left. this will too.
let em riot. we need to cull the idiots from the herd anyway.
i wonder if they think that by stirring up the blacks with this craziness that they can create a situation that allows obama to declare martial law and seize power. i would not put it past these marxist freaks.
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:16pmIf we are for people standing on their own two feet, taking charge of their own lives, producing and not leeching…that is a good thing.
If the primary people who’d be forced to cope with this way of life happen to be “of color” then that is a coincidence. If you say it isn’t, then you are the racist.
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drs1969
Oct. 28, 2012 at 9:55pmIt’s no coincidence! You can call me racist or realist.
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Oct. 29, 2012 at 12:09pmBut in reality, we know it has nothing to do with race or color…as to how they act/behave & their ethics. Everything we criticize them for can be traced to manipulation by the left and their own leaders in order to create a power base for the Democrats.
In some respects, just as at one time, we counted their votes as 3/5ths…not to say their votes/opinions were less valued…but as a counter balance to those areas of the nation with large black populations. For –just as Ayn Rand once said– once the welfare community reaches 50%, all will be lost…for they will be the majority and capable of voting into law anything they wish.
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Lone Ranger
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:13pmWhat a moron. It was DEMOCRATS who made up the Confederacy. Republicans had to shoot a lot of them to end slavery.
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jhaydeng
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:17pmSo true! I laughed when I read your post! They just don’t get it! LOL!
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usamom
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:22pmif White are racist, why dis they vot for obama in the first place….. and why do the love Allen West
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Metallicat
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:49pmThe civil war wasnt about slavery.that was a convenient excuse to ravage the south,for taking their natural resources and leaving the union. Without those natural resources yankee industrialists couldnt get rich competing with other nations like britain and france for those resources.
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ColoradoDad
Oct. 28, 2012 at 9:42pmThat is so funny Lone Ranger. I was just thinking that when I scrolled down and saw your post. This guy is definitely an idiot and doesn’t know a damn thing about history. The south (confederacy) was mainly democratic and it was the republicans from the north that wanted to end suffrage. What a maroon!
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drs1969
Oct. 28, 2012 at 10:00pmMetallicat is right. History was rewritten to suit the conquerors.
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Lone Ranger
Oct. 28, 2012 at 10:18pmHere’s all you need to know about racism. Republicans founded the NAACP. Democrats formed the KKK. Reading democratic party platforms is like reading the history of human rights abuses and crimes against humanity in this country. From slavery to segregation to abortion, democrats never learn from their mistakes, because they never admit making any.
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NoSurrender
Oct. 29, 2012 at 3:18amTrouble is Lone Ranger you didn’t shoot enough of them
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Git-R-Done
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:13pmAndrew Sullivan provides more evidence of liberals being demented psychopaths.
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lovesapplepie
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:12pmEnough of the race baiting and fear mongering..Our Nation needs a President that will make bringing America AND both sides of the aisle together, a priority.
“STAND DOWN, Mr. President… Gov. Romney will take it from here.”
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HKS
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:23pmGood number.
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justasurvivor
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:31pmCorrection. President Romney will take it from here – January 20, 2013
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drs1969
Oct. 28, 2012 at 10:04pmCancer doesn’t co-exist w/it’s host, it consumes it, unless starved or removed.
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tango2006
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:09pmHey guys up NY and NJ take care be careful here in Miami we are praying for you
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RetiredAmericanNavyTaxpayer
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:26pmThanks. We need all the help we can get up here thanks to Chuckie Schumer and Ms. Gillabrand.
Since we don’t have early voting up here maybe you could pray for really, really heavy snow on Nov. 6 for NY City, Long Island, Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse plus Westchester county. Hmmm..better add Albany to that list. They had a Democrat machine that lasted for decades and people there haven’t yet realised that it’s not their fathers Democrat party anymore. Now out in the ‘burbs and rural areas people can see political things more clearly.
NOBAMA
**2012**
The end of an errOr.
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PatriotDadOfSix
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:29pmTango, Now I’m offended. You’re a racist because you’re from the south; assuming that I can’t pray for myself. Racist I tell you, Raaacisssst! LOL. Thanks actually, I think we’re gonna need help up here.
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football lady
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:09pmWhat a total assinine remark!
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ClaudeRains
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:09pmThis is one Puerto Rican voting for that “Confederacy”. Nobama.
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RetiredAmericanNavyTaxpayer
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:27pmGracias !!
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BODYBAG
Oct. 28, 2012 at 9:23pmWelcome to the REVOLUTION our PR friends. You are our brothers in arms!!!!!
These idiots can call this whatever they want, racist, bigotry, confederacy, extremist——
The fact is the Monkey-Boy King is going down hard.
We value FREEDOM in this country.
Please people, let’s not go through this again in the future.
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HKS
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:06pmIf Romney wins the election, there won’t be anymore ambassador assassinations for sure and the one we just had will get justice for all the guilty parties. That’s the real fear of the Obama administration.
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AlwaysAmazed
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:57pmWHEN Romney wins…
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DOra Glasberg
Oct. 28, 2012 at 11:04pmObama currently has 277 Electoral votes by most polls.
Maybe Ryan needs to wash more already washed dishes at empty soup kitchens?
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The-Monk
Oct. 28, 2012 at 11:23pm@Dora
I feel your pain. I’ve known and counseled many libs that were about to explode with all the pent-up anger they felt for their side and themselves. Don’t worry… after your obvious upcoming mental breakdown we on the right will be here for you. It’s only a matter of time and time is running out for you based on the progression of you posts.
Yep, seen it many times. You’ll be a Republican in no time. Just keep up the hate. You know, just like Darth Vader. He turned and so….. will…… you……. here’s a nice happy face for you. : )
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The-Monk
Oct. 28, 2012 at 11:45pm@Dora,
Just look in the mirror…….. you’re toast.
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Diane TX
Oct. 28, 2012 at 11:46pm@ Dora,
Sorry, I don’t take the Huff Po seriously at all, and they’re ones projecting the 270 for Obama. That’s not even close to the truth. On October 21, Romney 206 ; Obama 201.
Here’s the link.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map_race_changes.html#previous_changes
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Psychosis
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:05pmsomeone needs to slap the stupid out of this joker ……….not sure if it can be done though
these losers are desperate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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QuincySmith
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:57pmNo one could hit him that hard.
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DOra Glasberg
Oct. 29, 2012 at 12:54amSullivan is a William Buckley conservative. not a Tea Party loon conservative.
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OccamsSword
Oct. 29, 2012 at 3:05amI’ll try…
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MAULEMALL
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:04pmYou can’t watch more than 1:21 before your head explodes with the intolerable ignorance spewed by the trolls on that “Panel”.
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whiterightwingchristianmale
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:04pmLiberals are racist.
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Dano9375
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:10pmLiberals really are racists. They see race everywhere. They are really a pathetic group of people. They also forget that a Republican president was the one that freed the slaves. Liberal polices are what have ruined the lives of so many african americans.
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db321
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:15pmI agree – Liberals are Racist and do not care one bit about Blacks other than their Vote.
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drs1969
Oct. 28, 2012 at 10:09pm‘Jewish Bolsheviks’ are racist and blacks are their ‘useful idiots’. Been this way since FDR.
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DOra Glasberg
Oct. 28, 2012 at 11:06pmRomney’s going to lose.
I guess if you post something -that makes it true.
El Fartbo has a beautiful head of hair – on his back.
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The-Monk
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:02pmTo all The Blaze staff that live and work in New York and the surrounding areas.
Our prayers and best wishes for your safety through this nasty storm.
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HKS
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:07pmDitto on that and everyone that lives their as well.
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The-Monk
Oct. 28, 2012 at 8:23pmDitto on the “everyone” HKS…
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