Father of SEAL Slain in Benghazi Attack Demands Answers as Grisly Details Emerge
Fox News’ Jennifer Griffin appeared on America’s Election HQ today to discuss the Benghazi attacks through the lens of one of her sources, who apparently recounted a number of brutal details about how the situation unfolded on September 11.
Griffin said her source detailed a frantic situation, with Washington repeatedly (and bewilderingly) telling American forces to “stand down,” and with promised reinforcements failing to arrive in spite of being well within striking distance.
The source in question was reportedly stationed at the local CIA annex, where a sizable number of US forces were holed up after being told to “stand down” and avoid danger, rather than attempt to mount a rescue for the survivors. Starting at 9:40 PM, these soldiers asked the base chief for permission to help at the consulate. The chief told them to “stand down” as he was trying to arrange Libyan help for the mission.
He apparently failed. The troops asked his permission again at 10:30 PM. Again, denied. Griffin added that in attempting to rescue the survivors and climbing the walls of the consulate to do so, deliberately putting themselves at risk, the soldiers, including slain Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods, actively defied these orders.
Upon returning to the CIA annex with survivors, Griffin said one of the soldiers got on the radio and asked, frantically, at midnight: “Where the blank is the Spectre?” (Griffin didn’t say exactly which expletive she had replaced).
“Spectre” is short for a Lockheed AC-130 Spectre Gunship, a type of aircraft which reportedly was meant to arrive to assist in Benghazi. Special Operations Forces are also said to have deployed to southern Italy, and would have been available to act as reinforcements, but failed to arrive.
In other words, Griffin’s reporting reveals yet more evidence that the American forces in Benghazi were left deliberately outgunned, with military assets that could have been used to protect the situation left unused. To that end, Charles Woods, the father of slain Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods, appeared on Fox News today to explain why his family was coming forward demanding answers as to why their son died.
“I knew that something was fishy. It just didn’t make sense that you’d have a long, drawn-out battle, and that no help would have been sent,” Woods told Fox. “I can’t say what their motivations are, and I’m not gonna speculate on that, but I do know that the Navy SEALs are incredibly honorable, and they have a code of ethics, a code of honor, and part of that code of honor is that they will never leave anyone behind…This was not necessary. I knew this could have happened, and my question in Washington, DC was, why didn’t this happen?”
Watch Woods’ appearance on Fox below:
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bcope01
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:25pmResign now!!!
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love the kids
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:35pmThis is nothing but a Republican withc hunt. Just remember, Obummer would make the same decision tomorrow, or I mean in 2 weeks, if he had to.
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Gary_K
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:42pm@love the kids
You mean indecisio don’t you?
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:46pmThis SHOULD be apolitical. No matter WHAT party you lean towards, you should be outraged by what happened, or what didn’t.
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dealer@678
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:37pmThe msm showed Osama in the situation room at hurricane headquarters . Lets see the video of the POS in the situation room when Americans were slaughtered in real time
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Red Meat
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:40pmMy sources inform me that the President was nearing a comatose state after self-medicating for most of the day.
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DOra Glasberg
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:42pmGrizzly details?
You mean there were bears there too!
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dealer@678
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:55pmIf America was under attack would this president tell our military to ‘Stand Down’ . I think he would. If that happened you wanna be in Texas
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Watermain
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:07pm@Dealer: Of course he is in the situation room. When it is just the threat of massive loss of life and property damage there is no risk of offending Obama’s muslims brothers. And trust me, he is only there for publicity. He doesn’t give a crap what happens to America and/or Americans.
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The-Monk
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:23pm@Dora
I feel your pain. I’ve known and counseled many libs that were about to explode with all the pent-up anger they felt for their side and themselves. Don’t worry… after your obvious upcoming mental breakdown we on the right will be here for you. It’s only a matter of time and time is running out for you based on the progression of you posts.
Yep, seen it many times. You’ll be a Republican in no time. Just keep up the hate. You know, just like Darth Vader. He turned and so….. will…… you……. here’s a nice happy face for you. : )
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RepubliCorp
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:32pmIs speaker Bonehead MIA?
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The-Monk
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:42pm@Dora,
Just look in the mirrorβ¦.. youβre toast.
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Displacedsoutherner
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:47pmMy new bumper sticker:
4 Died, Obama Lied.
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HKS
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:51pmObama should resign now and try to save some dignity for that office he holds. He is leaving a lot to be written and I don’t think the black community is going to much like what will be written. Talk about high crimes, he surely raised that bar.
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debrarae
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:58pmI love the way the LIBS call this a GOP WITCHHUNT. when it’s the Parent’s of the 4 murdered embassy personal who are asking for the answers after OBAMA and HILLIARY CLINTON LIED to their FACES!
It’s ok when the LIBS question BUSH about anything, but when the media PROTECTS OBAMA as more and more evidence proves that OBAMA is a COLD BLOODED KILLING JERK who put POLITICS above the LIVES of EMBASSY PERSONAL YOU libs #LIE and call this a #WITCHHUNT Talk about HYPOCRISY #STFU
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Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:13am@ LOVE THE KIDS
We have 4 heros dead. That’s not a witch hunt. We have numerious lies swirling around. We don’t need moral truth to be the final victim in this matter. You are way out of line. If this was your son, you would be livid. Mr. Wood has every right to be livid and demand the truth along with holding those responsible for Tyrones death to be brought to justice.
Everyone please flood congress and senate with emails demanding a full investigation of all evidence.
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destrecht
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:19amanonymous. It is political. It shouldn’t be but it is. My father has become such a cheerleader for this and he seems to think that there is no reason for the president to tell anyone. He says president doesn’t owe any answers. unfortunately this is typical. We argue about it all the time.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:44amSome of you guys can deal with these troll creeps better than I can, so deal with this b/witch Dora
who seems like the most insensitive, crass, uneducated, ill-informed member of their dastardly group…yo dora… be careful what you “taunt” about, brat…. it will come back and bite you.
Apologies to the Parents of TY WOOD et al. We are sickened by this and another blogger is right, this is NOT ABOUT PARTY…this is about PATRIOTISM. That SOB in the WH can be all over the hurricane? THIS Benghazi will sink him for good as it should. Ty’s father said it best: Obama shook hands like he was a DEAD FISH and he wouldn’t look Mr. Wood in the eyes. I’m saying now that this is about COLOR (our criticism) of this dope in the WH… HE’S YELLOW and he’s RED.
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bonesiii
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:56amNixon resigned over far, far less than this.
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QuincySmith
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:09amkiddy;
I don’t know what a withc is, but this situation is NOT political. It is about decision making, leadership, and moral centeredness. oblama fails in every aspect! Benghazi is only the latest example. If you don’t understand that, you also fail to see how having honor and integrity is mandatory in a successful leader. oblama fails! He is a failed president. Again, if you can’t see that, you are part of the problem, not part of the solution (restoring American integrity and honor).
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sandrunner
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:36amthere is no such thing as a witch hunt. IT IS JUSTICE !!!!!! That we seek.
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BODYBAG
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:41am@THE-MONK
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:23pm
@Dora
I feel your pain. Iβve known and counseled many libs that were about to explode with all the pent-up anger they felt for their side and themselves. Donβt worryβ¦ after your obvious upcoming mental breakdown we on the right will be here for you.
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@MONK ——- LOL
As far as that last proposition ——– Negative.
After the coming humiliating defeat on election night, there will be a tendency to feel a little
sorry and empathetic toward those on the left —– DONT. Skewer the bastards then carry
them outside by their beltloops and shirt collars and dump them in the street.
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Hanna
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 5:14amPut yourself in this picture. You hear gun shots coming from the embassy. You want to go help, you are told to stand down. You listen to this for an hour, again you ask to go help, again you are told to stand down, but this time you deliver some explicative and you head for the embassy, loaded. You have just defied orders and will run a mile packing all the heat you can carry to respond to the hail of bullets and grenades being fired at the Embassy and the people who reside and work there. You get there, you do what you can. You then flee from the embassy taking with you the body of one who has fallen as well as 30 people that have been rescued and you head toward the annex.
The bad guys meet you in several places along the way with major fire power, nearly stopping you because you took numerous direct hits all along the way. Gee, it is almost as if they planned on needing to be along that route should anyone manage to escape from the embassy. Funny thing, because they didn’t plan on you being there did they? You finally get to the annex and again you are under fire. Again you ask for help, and again you are denied. You say but I have a laser and I have it pointed at this missile launcher. A missile launcher that Catherine Herrage said has a plate that has to be set in the daytime, in order to use it So that meant it had to have been set the previous day, well in advance of the attack. The attack that was on the embassy, but here you are at the annex facing majo
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loriann12
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 6:14amThis incident alone will turn all veterans away from Obama. Anyone who has been in the military knows this isn’t a decision that is made by some base commander. This would go all the way up the chain of command and the buck stopped at Obama. If we had that 80′s foreign policy back, we wouldn’t have lost near as many people, possibly none. Stevens was sacrificed for what he knew and everyone else was collateral damage.
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Texaskid2
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 6:22amDitto
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HKS
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 6:40amI don’t believe this to be a “witch hunt”, What I’m looking at is a “homicide investigation”, with Hillary and Obama on a gallows.
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HKS
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 7:18amEven if Obama wins the election he will still have to answer for his crimes. Difference being, we’ll have to impeach him first. Still going to end up in the same place, the gallows.
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patriot30-378
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 7:50amResign? Over this? You are implying that Obama has some integrity or honor. What the hell would give you that idea? He is no man. He is a coward.
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Gonzo
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 7:53amGlad you find humour in the betrayal and death of heroic American patriots Dora.
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CABERNETQHS
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 8:06amLoriann
I totally agree. It’s the most obvious answer.They wanted Stevens dead and didn’t expect those heroes to mess up their plan. They probably had that little video in their back pocket for months to use as an excuse or fuel to start an uprising and conveniently control the internet.
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QuincySmith
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 8:10ampatriot30-378;
“Resign? Over this? You are implying that Obama has some integrity or honor. What the hell would give you that idea? He is no man. He is a coward.” ~~~ You are correct, however, one would expect better from the cackling hag: http://www.blinkx.com/watch-video/clinton-on-qaddafi-we-came-we-saw-he-died/G_ct3joZFHe2HWlqc5cc7Q
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QuincySmith
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 8:17amCharles Woods: Defines grace, compassion, and honor. He spoke highly of his son, Ty; one must rightfully assume (from his heroic actions) that he was like his father. We a great American. Mr. Woods exemplifies all that is good about America, unfortunately, I don’t posses his reserve and dignity. May God bless and comfort you, Mr. Woods, and your family.
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Dismayed Veteran
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 9:04amEvery person who has a commission or has enlisted in every branch of the Armed Forces knows the deal. It is called keeping the faith and staying the course. You know that you may be wounded or killed while in combat and conducting the mission (staying the course). You know that if you are wounded or killed someone will come for you either to render aid or carry you body out (keeping the faith). You know that sometimes neither will happen but not from lack of trying.
Benghazi is more than Obama failing to keep the faith. It is the failure of the entire command structure to keep the faith. There was no effort of substance. The faith was broken at the worst possible moments. There is no way to predict if those men would have lived or died if help was sent when requested. But the faith would have been kept and the course stayed.
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Stuck_in_CA
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 9:31amβ¦The information I heard today was that General [Carter] Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.
General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.
The story continues that now General Rodiguez would take General Hamβs place as the head of Africomβ¦
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/was-africom-general-replaced-for-his-efforts-to-save-benghazi-security-officials/
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Walkabout
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 10:05amThe Monk,
Obama could win. But if he thinks it is bad now, It will be worse for him legislatively. The scandals will only get worse & he will be embattled.
Unfortunately he will put us all thru HeII by using executive orders to try to skate around Congress. It won;t work as well the next 2 years.
For some reason I think Dora is from New Jersey. He sure complains about it a lot. I think he might have lived in a few other states as well or has relatives in them,because there are a smattering of
b/tching about other states. But mainly it is about New Jersey.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 10:39amOBAMA is hoping that this will “go away” . DO NOT LET IT. And..for anyone who dares to insult the father of this hero, TY WOOD, go hang your head in shame. YOU like being a pawn for this demon in the WHITE HOUSE? THIS act of cowardice is the final straw for most Americans.
There are some interesting thoughts out there: MONK’S kidnap for exchange with Blind Sheikh ? Interesting. We do know that the WH most likely sent minions to dig into YOUTUBE for the most offensive junk they could find. What they screwed up on was that this had been posted on YOUTUBE in JUNE (months ago) and only had 34 views when they started this debacle.
Do not let this ‘go away’. THE FAMILIES deserve answers. As far as the blogger who says he doesn’t believe the father about the DEAD FISH handshake? WHY NOT? OBAMA’S soul is dead.
I’m amazed at this father’s restraint.
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GlennaBeckski
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 11:09amHe should resign! He should also take to heart the morals of this loving and forgiving family.
Should this country survive the next few weeks.. we should implement a law or bill that only Seals can run for the highest office in the land. They have proven their loyalty to this country and their motto that “no one is left behind” is one that our Presidents should willing adhere to.
The time should be over for your bank account determining who is eligible to run for office. How about LOVE OF COUNTRY AND IT’S CITIZENS being the Premise for Leadership. Gee what a novel idea….
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The Jewish Avenger
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 11:32am@Displacedsoutherner
CSN&Y Will be penning “Bengahzi” any moment now
“Bengahzi”
Ten pm and no ones coming
Were obviously on our own
They need us so here we come and..
Four dead in Benghazi
Gotta get down to ‘em
Muslims are cutting us down
Should’ve seen them run long ago.
Why wont the brass do it?
Rescue the way that we know
Were are those guns that we know?
Twelve pm and no ones coming
Were obviously on our own
This morning I hear the guns and…
Four dead in Benghazi
Why would Obama do this?
Is there more than is said
Is there something we should know?
What if your son was him?
Saw him dead on the ground?
How can we vote when we know?
Give credit, use and edit to hearts content but for the love of Pete Blaze,
Let this post.
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ccangel01
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:07pmNo, not a witch hunt. What if it were a family member of yours? Wouldn’t you want some answers if you knew they had asked for help and it was refused?
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jaylew
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 3:15pm@Dora leave it to you to try to make a little hardee-har-har yuck-yuck snark on this entire Benghazi matter. I can say with a fair amount of certainty that if Tyrone Wood’s father could get his hands around your bony wretched little neck after reading your snotty comment… that you would find nothing funny in this mess at all. I doubt he would finish you off….but there might be some marks left….and then you can decide going forward just exactly what the difference between grisly and grizzly is. Glasberg is it? That sounds like it just might be Jewish….and if so….and you have let your liberal mind rot to the point where you have apparently forgotten that which should never be forgotten…..then you indeed are far a more pitiful creature than most of your posts belie. You have crossed the line on this and frankly this forum would be better off having every one of your posts removed and your IP addressed banned permanently. That should be the star tattooed on the left part of your laptop’s keyboard.You are neither funny or relevant..you actually think this Benghazi thing is a joke? If I am correct and indeed you are Jewish….do you know what any typical fundamental Islamist would do to you if he or she could get their hands on you? They would rip you to shreds and hang your carcass from the nearest light pole. These American men and women in Benghazi are \ were trying to combat the Islamic movement…can you at least find that somewhat sobering?
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tikner57
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 3:49pmMake no mistake; itβs not just a feeling of sorrow for people in bondage, that makes men and women of a free nation willingly leave their homes, travel to a land that they have never seen, and fight with their entire mite to free strangers from tyranny!
No, it goes deeper than that!
You see, deep inside a person who has tasted freedom, the thought of people under bondage is repulsive.
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Mulder1
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 4:43pmWe are getting a lot of conflicting info from the Obama administration. They don’t want the truth to come out until after the election. It looks like Obama has lost both Libya and Egypt to Islamic fundamentalists who are anti-American.
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TJexcite
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:25pmIt will all come out at the trial.
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DeOppressoLiber
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:00pmIs this true? Need some Patriot in AFRCOM to step up to the plate and confirm or deny why Ham was moved.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/10/has_general_ham_been_fired.html
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Pouncing Porcupine
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:00pmAs delightful as that would be,
everyone knows it will never happen.
We may never know the full story.
And you can bet your bottom dollar that Bam’s next gig will be U.N. Sec. Gen.
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Gregb
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:39pmWhy are they holding the trial after the election!!!!
this is an outrage and obama needs to be removed now, not later!
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tradexpertbuysell
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:37pm@ Monk,
J W Booth was initially going to kidnap Lincoln too when things likewise got out of hand. I agree with you that the kidnapping theory gone out of control fits the variables best so far. I’ll go with that too.
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911Patriot
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:40pmMuslims cannot have anything to do with Ham.
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USAMama
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:52amRomney MUST win! If Obama wins and they have the trial, he gets impeached (or imprissoned like he should be!) we end up with… *gasp*… PRESIDENT BIDEN!!!!!!!! God help us!
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Case_Logic
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:24pmSend obama to Gitmo!
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theonounser
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:33pmWtr Brd
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Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:18amThe terrorist in the WH trying to destroy moral truth attacking those who seek truth demands we seek justice for the four heros who died. Email your congress and senate this week. Push this. We are in a fight for truth. Those who died would have fought for truth if they were alive. It’s up to us to take up their cause. Stand with Mr. Wood, stand with Glen Beck, stand with Truth. Demand truth.
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Small World
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:24pmHay Mr. President STEP DOWN and go directly to jail.
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nzkiwi
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:24pm@ Small world
You say that in obvious and understandable anger and frustration, but criminal proscecution is not entirely beyond the realms of reason.
I believe that the main reason for the cover up is that the Obama administration has been acting illegally, and the Benghazi tragedy is likely to expose this.
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The-Monk
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:02pmHi NZkiwi,
I’m leaning towards a kidnap of Stevens for a trade with the Blind Sheik and both sides were in on it but things got out of hand.
Any thoughts?
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GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:00amHi Monk, NZ Kiwi, Small,
There are three options:
1. Since Mr. Stevens was the gunrunner for Barry down there, he saw this as the opportunity of getting rid of an eventual witness against him.
2. Your statement: Blind Sheik in exchange for Mr. Stevens. You are not the only one thinking that because Iβve read that too somewhere else, but I donβt remember where.
3. Barryβs Taqqiya.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/10/obamas_taqqiya_unravels.html
To each one you must add some well-known characteristics of Barryβs personality: Evilness, cowardice, indecision, weakness, treachery, etc.
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nzkiwi
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:07amI thought about that, Monk, but it seems to me that such a scenario carries an enormous risk of failure. Mr Obama and the other main players can be accused of many things, but stupidity is not one of them.
To go to such highly risky lengths would require an outcome that brings considerable advantage to the plotters. To embark on this, in collusion with some very doubtful operatives (we are talking about a team significantly below SEAL capability), for the sole purpose of engineering the repatriation of the “blind sheik” seems to me to be a bit of a reach.
Personally, I discounted that as soon as I heard it.
That said; I cannot come up with a sensible reason for the attackers to do this.
What I do know is that it has exposed some highly illegal activity on behalf of the administration and others. I think that this is the reason why they did not attempt to even support the defenders, far less effect a rescue. It is also the reason why they came up with the silly video story as a cover, which started to collapse around them almost immediately. That seemed rushed and too reliant on the media.
Why they were attacked has got me stumped. Possibly it had something to do with the Turkish envoy, and/or repatriation of arms. Perhaps the “blind sheik” thing is disinformation. Not sure.
Everything else, however, is starting to fall into place.
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The-Monk
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:29amThanks GBTVfan and NZkiwi for the responses.
It could be as simple that a community organizer that’s trying to act as a Chicago thug got in over his head. Maybe Valerie Jarret cut Obama loose to try something on his own for once. (I still haven’t heard any news about her or seen her in the background photos since all this happened).
I’ll look for your posts tomorrow and get back to you after I’ve slept on this.
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UNALIEN
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:39amNZKIWI
The theory fits the known facts perfectly…
Obama is supplying aid to the Turkey MB/AQ “coalition” they had to get Obama re-electied or else it would be exposed
Turkey and MB plans a kidnap of the Ambassador, hires third rate thug operatives to carry it out
At some high level Obama admin is aware of it, if it goes south they have deniability, they aid in stand down order and prior security requests from Ambassador denied
The primary goal was to get Obama re-elected and he would have been if he could have acted the hero to get a kidnapped Ambassador released, back door deal would be the release of the blind Sheik but after the election when Obama would be unaccountable.
But, the plan goes south when the xseal/CIA guys defy the stand down order.
The Ambassador died of smoke inhalation and was found later by looters
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nzkiwi
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 2:31am@ Monk, GBTV, Unalien
It is a bit unfair of me to knock your ideas without putting forward my own. Therefore I reluctantly put forward this theory, but I stress that I donβt have nearly enough facts to back it up, and Iβm not fully convinced of it myself. Iβm quite prepared to be proven wrong:
At the behest of the Saudis and the MB, the USA has been arming the Libyan and then Syrian insurgents, transiting the weapons for Syria through Turkey (I have sources for this). Turkey strongly supports the MB and its goals. (ditto).
I believe that the Saudis are behind the MB push to gain control of the Middle East nations and Syria is their current project (unproven as yet). They require more arms and supplies for the βrebelsβ.
Amb. Stevens now refuses to supply the weapons in storage and refuses to route more, on instructions from a White House getting cold feet (pointers, but unproven). He conveys this to the Turkish envoy (conjecture).
The local MB figures that they might as well grab the weapons that are stored in warehouses near the compound and launches an attack on a seemingly near defenceless target (some evidence, but unproven).
The White House is alerted, realises what the target probably is, and refuses support in the hope that the evidence of serious and damning illegality will disappear with the attackers (complete conjecture).
Then the cover up begins.
As I say, Iβm not convinced myself…
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nzkiwi
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 2:45amOne thing that is absolutely certain, however, is that this whole ugly package is sitting at the front gate of 1600 Pensylvania Avenue “with a big pink bow around it”. (Quoting Mr Obama.)
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UNALIEN
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 9:31amNZKIWI
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 2:31am
@ Monk, GBTV, Unalien
At the behest of the Saudis and the MB, the USA has been arming the Libyan and then Syrian insurgents, transiting the weapons for Syria through Turkey (I have sources for this). Turkey strongly supports the MB and its goals. (ditto).
I believe that the Saudis are behind the MB push to gain control of the Middle East nations and Syria is their current project (unproven as yet). They require more arms and supplies for the βrebelsβ.
Amb. Stevens now refuses to supply the weapons in storage and refuses to route more, on instructions from a White House getting cold feet (pointers, but unproven). He conveys this to the Turkish envoy (conjecture).
The local MB figures that they might as well grab the weapons that are stored in warehouses near the compound and launches an attack on a seemingly near defenceless target
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We are talking theoretical here of course. and I agree with the arms for Saudi/Turkey/MB/AQ to take over the region, but the biggest risk to the continuation of arms supplied to them and exposure of the operation is the election of Romney. Killing the Ambassador right before the election increases exposure of gun running and risks Obamas re-election. It doesn’t make sense, the MB is in the WH. Their primary motivation is to get Obama re-elected and killing the Ambassador puts that at great risk. So, it must have been a failed kidnapping.
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UNALIEN
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 10:28amFurther, the Ambassador died of smoke inhalation and was found later by looters. this lends more credibility to a failed kidnapping rather than an assassination.
The MB has infiltrated the WH, so killing the Ambassador would work against their interests and risk arms deals exposure. the question is who knew, who ordered the stand down, who was involved in the conspiracy.
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nzkiwi
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 4:42pm@ Unalien
As I said, I’m not convinced myself. I’m a great believer in Occam’s razor but the problem is that we are much too short of facts.
Basically, I don’t know. I’m pretty sure that more information will continue to leak out at a steady rate. This whole thing has shocked people to the core. I’m convinced the the truth will be apparent soon enough, as people who know the truth decide that they can no longer abide the lies.
This tragic scandal surpasses partisan politics and I hope that the guilty parties are not allowed to walk away, regardless of the outcome of the election.
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kickagrandma
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:23pmAnother thought: as soon as phone lines are restored to Washington, D.C., we must all begin calling reps, senators, OUR HOUSE, the Pentagon, etc., etc., etc. DEMANDING the arrest forthwith of the non- commander-in-chief and ALL who serve him for treason and dereliction of duty.
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3Tesla
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:22pmThank God — for the Blaze
Try to re-post any news like this onto Yahoo where you are not preaching to the choir and watch where your post goes–if it is not outright edited it is placed into obscurity. The total domination of the left wing media is unbelievable . The evidence is SO overwhelming that even if Obama wins he will eventually be impeached. The media HAVE to know that — and THEN — we get Drunkle Joe– also unbelievably — THEY have to know that. FRIGHTENING but true.
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:43pmYep, a vote for Obama will now be a vote for Biden. If he doesn’t get indicted as well.
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chalkdust
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 6:42amI’m trying to figure out why you think their will be a trial. I certainly don’t oppose that but I have a hard time believing that would happen.
It’s possible there is enough to impeach, assuming he is reelected. Possible but not likely. Everyone points to previous situations like Clinton and Nixon but this is very, very different.
Of course this situation is far more egregious but the political will to put Obama through impeachment will be scarce. Just a political reality. Can you imagine the media would shred the republican house as racist, you name it it will be thrown at them and it will work. I could be wrong, just how I read this.
Since the man was elected I’ve thought he’s pretty much untouchable. This is what makes him so dangerous. Way too much power for any man to have. We cannot have an untouchable President!
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chips1
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:20pmObama uses people just like Charley Manson. Both are cult leaders.
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pwatkins
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:04amWe could put Biden in Gitmo and tell him we sent him to Libya to straighten things out and he would believe us, so don’t worry about what to do with him. We just need to remove Obama by votes or impeachment and then worry about what to do afterwards.
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BODYBAG
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:46am@CHIPS1
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:20pm
Obama uses people just like Charley Manson. Both are cult leaders.
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Or Jim Jones also comes to mind.
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kickagrandma
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:20pmIt makes me sick to my stomach.
May GOD IN HEAVEN have mercy on the souls of the traitorous sobs that did this because I guarantee you that HE will be the only ONE WHO will.
I am so grieved for my country, that we have come to this.
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maddiesnonnie
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:29amAnother grandmother here…………….For months I have been grieving for the country that I was raised in. I’ve done all the “stuff” a good citizen should do: Rallies, Marches, Visits to capitols (state and DC), Calls, Letters, Emails. Somewhere along the way I realized that all that was useless. I quit that, but stayed on top of the news, always optimistic that we would all “live happily ever after”. Recently, with a heavy thud, I realized it is too late. It was too late when I began to be politically active about 6 years ago. Now, we mourn, and we pray. Evil prevails throughout our political system, judicial system, and economic system. From local boards of education up, and including, the WH. At this point, will prayer be enough?
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Small World
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:17pmHay Mr.President STEP DOWN and go directly to jail.
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banjarmon
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:16pmMr BHO I demand you resign as President of the USA!!!!
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baxsam
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:40pmI second that!
There needs to be a petition started demanding his resignation.
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pwatkins
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:05amI will sign it.
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dealer@678
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:14pmThis president is a coward. The worst of the worst. An abomination !!!!!!
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Fatheroftwo
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:13pmAll you Progressives should pay very close attention to this situation, because, there but for the grace of God go you!!!!
May Gods grace and blessings find those who where abandoned that day!!!!
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standtuff
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:13pmThis was a botched staged event to make Obama look like a hero. Trading custody of the Blind Shiek for the release of Stevens and Smith right before the election. It would have dominated the news for Obama all fall. At least Carter tried to rescue the hostages before the election. This is far worse because it wasnβt a botched rescue, it was a botched βaiding and abetting the enemyβ for political gain. Someone needs to step forward in a hurry and expose this.
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Windwalker
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 7:42amMy guess is if Obama is not elected, the blind shiek will be released in the lame duck session anyway.
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mike551
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:11pmWe all know.
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Stuck_in_CA
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:14pm…The information I heard today was that General [Carter] Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.
General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.
The story continues that now General Rodiguez would take General Hamβs place as the head of Africom…
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/was-africom-general-replaced-for-his-efforts-to-save-benghazi-security-officials/
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rickroland
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:03pm@STUCK_IN_CA
General Ham’s second in command needs a full-on courts martial.
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:47pmRick-
and a punch in the face.
This whole thing is eerily reminiscent of the plot line of last resort. I wonder if the writer didn’t have an inside scoop…
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The-Monk
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:11pmTo all The Blaze staff and everyone that live and work in New York and the surrounding areas.
Our prayers and best wishes for your safety through this nasty storm.
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youshuthehellup
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:19pmI thought you were gonna write: “our prayers are with you to keep safe from all the nasty lefty’s in New York!
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The-Monk
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:24pmWhy, all the good people have a conceal carry permit.
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strawberry411a
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:08pmThe media, Obama and now our military officers are all lying bastards.
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neverending
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:24pmAn absolute nightmare!
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Clara88
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:07pmThank you sir for your son’s brave service to our Beloved Nation. I am so truly sorry for your precious loss. I believe that your son deserves a medal and that the one who calls himself Obama deserves to be arrested for treason.
God Bless You And Your Family
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SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:45pmThat poses another problem who wants a cheapened medal awarded by a traitor kind of a slap in the face.
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Clara88
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:00pmTHIS brave soldier’s father would NEVER accept a medal from the one who calls himself Obama. THAT would be an insult BEYOND insults. The one who calls himself Obama will be in prison>>God Willing
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bdandsl
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:06pmObama’s goose is cooked.
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StupidLiberals
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 11:55amObama himself should be cooked!!
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DEFCON4
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:04pmSpectre also referred to as “Puff the Magic Dragon” in military “circles”…….
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smokeysmoke
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:13pmor spooky
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politicianssuck
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:01pmyou will never get an answer. It will be deemed classified and only after the years have gone by and we are all dead will the answer come out I am afraid.
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Slowman101
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:01pmObama will never give an honest answer.
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Texaskid2
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 6:23amThat is because obama is not an honest man.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:00pmWhat happened in Libya was an act of war and had nothing to do with a video and it’s obvious to even your typical simpleton Obamazombie. The coward in chief allowed those men to die,he’s a vile man indeed,no shame and his lust for power is limitless.They could’ve been saved and we all know it because we had the firepower and the men capable of handling the situation,the problem is we have a coward as commander in chief.
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Gary_K
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:12pmSlayer
I believe what happened in Libya was an act of was perpetrated by the gay muslim communist pos in the White House along with his henchmen.
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kickagrandma
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:17pmI would change “coward” to “traitor”.
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Gary_K
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:17pmact of war……wish I could type :)
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BODYBAG
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 2:01am@PROGRESSIVESLAYER
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:00pm
The coward in chief allowed those men to die, heβs a vile man indeed, no shame and his lust for power is limitless.
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As soon as someone gives the order to Storm The Castle —–
you’ll see these big talking self-important monkeys trembling under a desk when things get real.
I want Lt Col Allen West in charge of Libya investigations & interrogations. Id give him full
authority to get to the bottom of it by any means necessary. That means water-boarding and
if he has to he has full permission to discharge his weapon by the head of Hillary, Susan Rice,
Joe BlowMe, and Barry.
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Tal-El
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 8:58pmNYT endorsed him, of course… not a word about any of this
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barber2
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:49pmThe NYT is a Lefty propaganda rag . Obama and the Far Left’s mouthpiece. The American version of Pravda. Hopefully they will soon earn what they so justly deserve. And that is NOT the American medal of Freedom !
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jaylew
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 3:25pmThe New York Carrier Pigeon???
Nobody reads that rag….soon it will be the do-do bird of printed media. The sooner the better. How many of it’s writers have been caught plagiarizing and literally making stuff up in the last 5 years?
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UNALIEN
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 8:54pmthe ambassadors kidnap botched, Obama watched
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standtuff
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:12pmThis was a botched staged event to make Obama look like a hero. Trading custody of the Blind Shiek for the release of Stevens and Smith right before the election. It would have dominated the news for Obama all fall. At least Carter tried to rescue the hostages before the election. This is far worse because it wasnβt a botched rescue, it was a botched βaiding and abetting the enemyβ for political gain. Someone needs to step forward in a hurry and expose this. If the administration can stoop this low, they can now use the hurricane to suspend elections.
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Gary_K
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:30pmbarry’s inaction amounts to murder , the overhead drone was armed and could have been used.
barry went to bed…what a pos he is !
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Gary_K
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:40pmhttp://theulstermanreport.com/2012/10/28/american-drones-armed-and-ready-to-attack-benghazi-terrorists-but-obama-refused-to-give-order/
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UNALIEN
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:54pmObamas politburo must be in full panic mode now… but like a cornered animal they are capable of anything before the election….
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red barchetta
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:25pmI don’t understand how Barry trading that filthy sheik for the “kidnapped” ambassador would make Zero look good. If this kidnap scenario is accurate, the same questions would remain, Zero not respondng to a islamist attack on our embassy in addition to the kidnapping. Am I missing something in this kidnap trade scenario? One thing is for certain, Barrack Obama is a coward and a traitor to this country, I have no idea who controls this disgusting man in the White House but I do know he is unfit to serve this country as his actions of done nothing but harm and degrade the United States. I suppose that is the intent of all progressive liberals.
My heart breaks for these men and their families.
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UNALIEN
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:51pm@RED BARCHETTA
so far it is speculation.. of course it will come out in the trial,,, but
The plan was to kidnap the Ambassador and then Zero gets him released before election, looks like a hero and easily wins the election. The blind dude gets released after zero is elected when he (Zero) is untouchable. The goal was to ensure Zeros re-election after that he could do anything.
The xseal/CIA guys acting against a stand down order to save the Ambassador likely unknowingly changed the course of history rescuing America from another term of destruction by Zero and this Marxist cabal. They are true heros beyond belief..
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barber2
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:08pmCommander-in-chief ?? Reminds me of the open borders/ federal suits against states . Who IS the federal government acting in behalf of here ? Not the average, tax-paying citizen. So who is this new and mysterious recipient of federal protection ? Another one of those ” new fundamental changes” in the Obama America ? NOBAMA 2012 NO DEMOCRATS 2012
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Windwalker
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 7:53am@ Red Barchetta
“I have no idea who controls this man in the White House”?….don’t forget Valerie Jarrett. Research that wench…her background, her affiliations and those of her relatives.. My guess is this whole mess goes a lot deeper than anyone realizes…another gun running saga this administration is classic at pulling off. In a court of law (not that this debacle will EVER get that far) the accussed celebrates dead witnesses. Stevens is a dead witness.
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Gary_K
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 8:54pmThe country demands answers…..but we already know what a pos barry is and what he did to these brave men.
http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/10/28/mr-president-they-know/
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NancyBee
Posted on October 28, 2012 at 9:53pmUlstermann report….a good web site
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