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Report: Obama Offered Iran Full Diplomatic Relations in 2009, Including Reopening Embassies

Oct. 28, 2012 10:26am
Maariv Reports Obama Offered Iran Full Diplomatic Relations Including Opening Embassies

Maariv’s headline: When Iran Said “No” to Obama

Did President Barack Obama once offer Iran full diplomatic relations as part of his “open hand” diplomacy when he first took office in 2009? That’s what an Israeli paper is reporting.

Maariv’s Diplomatic Correspondent Eli Bardenstein reports in Sunday’s paper (as translated by TheBlaze):

A number of months after he was elected president of the United States, Barack Obama tried to gradually renew diplomatic relations with Iran, to the extent of opening embassies and establishing full diplomatic relations. The Islamic Republic rejected the offer, out of fear for the future of the ayatollah regime. This, according to two diplomatic sources very close to the American administration.

The American offer was part of an overall change in approach to U.S. foreign policy by Obama upon entering the White House. The program focused on emphasizing negotiations and by extending a “diplomatic hand.”

While the body of the report offers no further detail about what full diplomatic relations would mean, a graphic accompanying Maariv’s report (pictured above, beneath the images of Obama and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad) states renewed relations would include: direct flights between Washington or New York and Tehran; granting entry permits for American visitors to Iran and for Iranians to visit the U.S.; “security cooperation and defense of citizens visiting in the host country”; diplomatic dialogue at a senior level; and an exchange of senior officials’ visits.

If true, Maariv’s report provides another example of Obama’s long-held belief that negotiations can stop Iran’s nuclear march.

Last week, the New York Times reported that the U.S. and Iran had agreed in principle to one-on-one negotiations after years of “intense, secret exchanges” between U.S. and Iranian officials.

As far back as the 2008 Democratic National Convention, then-candidate Obama promised he would conduct direct talks and direct presidential diplomacy with Iran with no preconditions, a stark shift from President George W. Bush’s approach. The hope was that a rapprochement in relations would lead to progress on stalling Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

Maariv reports:

In the first stage, the Americans offered the Iranians to open interest sections in Washington and Tehran which is the lowest level of relations between states. Later, the American administration intended to enter the stage of detailed agreements […]

Maariv has learned that there were at least two direct meetings between official American envoys and Iranian officials on this issue beginning in the summer of 2009. Deputy Secretary of State William Burns and chief Iranian nuclear negotiator Saeed Jalili participated in at least one of the two meetings.

The Israeli paper reports that Burns and Jalili met on the sidelines of a 2009 meeting in Geneva about Iran’s nuclear program between representatives of Iran and the five permanent Security Council members and Germany, known as the P5+1. The U.S.-Iran direct meeting lasted one hour, per Maariv’s sources. Reporter Bardenstein writes that Jerusalem knew about and opposed the contacts:

According to an Israeli source apprised of the contacts, the Islamic Republic feared any sign of normalization with the United States and refused to give a “prize” to the Americans. Iran’s main fear was that the ayatollah regime would be harmed by American intervention in Iranian society.

In the wake of last weeks’ New York Times story on the agreement to one-on-one negotiations, Maariv quotes two senior Israeli sources who say recent messages conveyed to the Iranians did not include an offer to renew relations.

The U.S. National Security Council would not comment to Maariv. As TheBlaze reported last week, the White House also denied the New York Times’ story that the U.S. and Iran agreed to hold direct talks. National Security Council Spokesman Tommy Vietor said in a statement last week:

It’s not true that the United States and Iran have agreed to one-on-one talks or any meeting after the American elections. We continue to work with the P5+1 on a diplomatic solution and have said from the outset that we would be prepared to meet bilaterally…

Iran also denied it had agreed to one-on-one talks with the U.S. over its nuclear program.

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Comments (117)

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:32pm

    Yes Barry open an embassy in Iran and you can watch our ambassador get murdered live and in color.
    You could demonstrate how you deal with a foreign power that commits an act of war like the incident in Libya. You could show that you’re just as incompetent as Carter was because both of you anti Semites have so much in common.

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  • KidCharlemagne
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:21pm

    Ronald Reagan tried to reach out to Iran during Iran-Contra:

    ——————————————
    “Let’s start with the part that is the most controversial. A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that’s true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not. As the Tower board reported, what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages. This runs counter to my own beliefs, to administration policy, and to the original strategy we had in mind. There are reasons why it happened, but no excuses. It was a mistake. I undertook the original Iran initiative in order to develop relations with those who might assume leadership in a post-Khomeini government.”
    Address to the Nation on Iran-Contra (March 4, 1987), Ronald Wilson Reagan

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:31pm

      Apparently Reagan was an islamic sypathizer, American apologist, and weak on foreign policy……

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    • scuba13
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:33pm

      Reagan died some time ago. What does that have to do with Obama looking like an idiot again when it comes to dealing with an Iranian terrorist state? He’s an incompetent fool when it comes to Muslim jihadists or anything else he does for that matter.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:35pm

      And Ronald Reagan apologized to the American people on March 4th 1987, taking full responsibilty and showing himself to be a President and Commander-in-Chief who took responsibility for everything that happened or failed to happen under his watch. As it should be.

      Now where are Obama’s apologies to the American people eh??

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 1:01pm

      Ron Paul (under Murray Rothbard’s tutelage) along with Lew Rockwell have taught a certain naive and gullible segment of our society (second time Obama enablers) to hate their country and hate the likes of Lincoln and Reagan. It’s a shame that Ron Paul came grovelling back to the Party that he hated just in order to get elected by the totally naive and unnaware fellow Americans in his district.

      We are yet again seeing the effects of his demented and warped views this election cycle with his acolytes and their total and unapologetic brainwashing by a cult leader on par with Jim Jones… or L. Ron Hubbard…

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 1:33pm

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:35pm

      And Ronald Reagan apologized to the American people on March 4th 1987,
      ==================================

      Reagan only apologized for sending weapons to Iran in exchange for hostages…..

      He never apologized for attempting to open up a dialogue again with Iran.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 2:44pm

      LOL KID… a new spin on that one…. lmao.

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 3:20pm

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 2:44pm

      LOL KID… a new spin on that one…. lmao.
      ========================================

      Read ‘em & weep, T2:

      (pay particular attention to Reagan when he says: “what began as a strategic opening to Iran”)

      (LOL!)

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      “As the Tower board reported, what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages. This runs counter to my own beliefs, to administration policy, and to the original strategy we had in mind.”
      Address to the Nation on Iran-Contra (March 4, 1987), Ronald Wilson Reagan

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 3:39pm

      Still don’t get your circle-jerk here KID and the point… you praising Ronald Reagan?

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    • Black Eagle
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 4:53pm

      Actually Reagan gave the Iranians spare F4 jet parts to get the kidnapped embassy staff released. But as a kicker, he gave the Iraqis various satellite feeds to help them bomb those same rehabilitated jets. Oliver North played them off against each other, two massive Islamic armies grinding each other to a pulp, and thereby not bothering anyone else. It was brilliant. The exact opposite of Mr. Muslim Obama. Would that Romney do the same, get Iran in a shooting war with another Islamic state, or internally, the people of Lebanon might actualy free themselves of Hezbollah fanatics. Ugly stuff this “game” but they have much worse in store for us by their own schemes.

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  • Hobo Boondocks
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:17pm

    For the sake of discussion, did the ‘White House’ deny the entire Israelis’ news report? If not what part(s) are true? What’s it going to take, a mushroom cloud over a major city in America? A nuke brought in by a suicide bomber with dreams of a school busload of virgins waiting for him in their paradise? Oh, excuse me, ‘school busload’ was the wrong term to use, since educating women is unnecessary according to some of their number, actually dangerous in some circles. I guess the old saying has some merit “Fools never learn” and trying to suck up to people who have publicly stated their determination to destroy you comes under the heading of what fools do.
    Wow as of today I’ve been posting 2 years on The Blaze! For some that’s 2 years too many, but I appreciate the forum anyway. Thanks Blaze

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  • wilobe
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:12pm

    Benghazi, Libya—Biopsy From a Malignant, Failed Presidency

    Conclusion—Obama’s Choices: Lose or Be Impeached

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50633

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    • mercenary4freedom
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 3:01pm

      If we can get the Senate majority, obama can be impeached if he cheats his way back in. If he doesn’t step down/resign, then its time to deploy other methods

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    • kuhl
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 3:53pm

      Impeachment would require a Congress with a backbone. Something we haven’t had for 4 years. I would hope that if Republicans win a majority, they do what the people EXPECT a Congress to do and live by the Constitution. That includes enforcing the articles of impeachment.

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    • cptenn94
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 5:34pm

      impeach him right now , not if he wins…because if obama goes who is left….biden….and we all know how that would turn out…..simply beat him now and or take over the congress…..

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  • Hickory
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:09pm

    Personally, I think we should support Iran’s efforts to bring nuclear energy to their country. Our first delivery of free nuclear material should be done with a fleet of B2 bombers.

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  • ginger100
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:05pm

    I believe Hitler had dealings with Iran which has similar meaning to Aryan. Why would they bother dealing with America who beat the crap out of their Axis friend during WW 2 the Big One

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  • KeithOlberdink
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:03pm

    Friggin Amateur.

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    • Advection
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:25pm

      No kidding!

      Obama understands geopolitics on a RISK boardgame level. The guy has actually made statements likening the size of different countries to their potential threat! What a moron!

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      Advection  
  • soybomb315_II
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:59am

    ““I have often made the point that the way we treat our fellow countries around the world is we tell them what to do, and if they do it we give them money. If they don’t do it, we bomb them… If you want to promote our good values and our democratic process, you can’t antagonize the people by literally killing people over there, because if bombs were falling on this country, we wouldn’t be all that happy with that.”

    Wise, or not wise?

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    • rflemingtx
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:08pm

      Not wise.

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    • Free_Thinker
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 8:15pm

      Yeah moron, we bomb every country that doesn’t do as we ask. That’s why we have been bombing Iran for years and years???????? You sound like your Exalted One Obama, make up outlandish tales and see if the sheeple will believe them.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 8:31pm

      @Free
      You forgot the word….”Yet”

      Iran is obviously a bigger country with anti-aircraft capabilities….that is the difference between them and the other countries. Dont worry, you will have your war soon enough

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  • davetrav
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:47am

    It seems Iran may be smarter than we are in trusting Obama at his word. VOTE OBAMA OUT.

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    • chips1
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:13pm

      Obama is offering you a choice. Either your burka or your guns. He took our military weapons away in more than one instance. Wake up America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:46am

    Epic FAIL === Odumbass FORIEGN policy………………PERIOD.

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  • justangry
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:39am

    I wouldn’t establish an embassy or normalize relations, but I think negotiation couldn’t hurt anything and might potentially make things better.

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    • U.N.hater
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:48am

      Umm. All islamic countrys are the enemy none are friends.http://www.france24.com/en/20121027-saudi-king-urges-un-action-against-religious-insults

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:01pm

      Hi Justangry,

      Third party Presidential debate is on C-SPAN now….

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    • U.N.hater
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:05pm

      Who was the democrats busing in to cast their early votes?http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/trial-offers-reminder-of-radicalization-dangers/

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    • justangry
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:10pm

      @U.N.hater, I never said they were our friends. I personally believe every country on earth resents us and aren’t really our friends. That being said, I’m not talking about being friends just negotiations.

      @Monk, Thanks man, but watched it streaming live.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:13pm

      Hi Justangry and Soybom315,

      I was channel surfing when I saw that but it’s over now.

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    • Individualism
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:21pm

      Iran hasn’t done a thing to anyone.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:24pm

      @Just
      @Monk

      That was a replay from last tuesday. You can watch it from the beginning on the C-SPAN website. That 3rd party debate from tuesday had 4 people in it and it turns out that the top two get to move on to the final 3rd party debate this tuesday (Oct 30). So the final debate will be just Jill Stein and Gary Johnson. It will be great to watch because it is Socialism vs Libertarianism.
      http://www.examiner.com/article/johnson-stein-win-3rd-party-debate-move-onto-dc-tuesday

      Gary Johnson made some great points based on reason. It is easy to see why they do not want anyone but Obama/Romney in the national debates

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:40pm

      @ Individualism Iran hasn’t done a thing to anyone?

      Tell it to my dead friends killed in Iraq with IED’s made in Iran you stupid SOB.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 1:21pm

      @Slayer
      So the blame should be on the country from which a bomb was made?

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    • Individualism
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 1:28pm

      Iran has the right to trade but just because they traded to another country doesn’t mean they did it. Iraq did it but Iraq was defending themselves from invasion so you can’t blame either for it. your allowed to trade and defend yourself as any nation. Iran didn’t do any wrong in that manner since trade is not wrong.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 1:39pm

      Soy Iran has been using super IED’s in Iraq for years not because they love Iraq it’s so they can kill Americans and they can spread their radical ‘religion’ ie kill infidels. I don’t think we ever should have went into Iraq in the first place I would have preferred letting Iran and Iraq continue their war and keep us out of it and let them kill each other. No we had to remove Hussein and later Barrry removed Mubarak now the region is united under the MB umbrella,it’s a worse situation.

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  • Female
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:27am

    In the past few years, I have found myself checking with the Israeli papers to findout what is going on w/our middle east policies. I believe they could really tell us of what has been going on?

    I, also, imagine Iran probably doesn’t like his African, Hawaiian, Indonesian, white, muslim-christian brother, after all they are still being tribal in their own country.

    So, where does all the materials from our nuclear arsenal go, after O disarmed them?

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  • IMCHRISTIAN
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:24am

    It is Like making a deal with the devil. He did not hesitate to offer this right away to Iran but no offer to save the victims of four. MSM should be ashamed to not fully and truthfully report and God will forgive if truthfully asked.

    God rest their souls

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  • RamonPreston
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:16am

    I thought Obama’s “Divine Presence” would fix everything. “If I was there…”

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  • TelepromoterNChief
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:13am

    Come on people.
    Old news.
    That’s 2009.
    Haven’t you heard, there is a storm on the way.
    Obama will save us all.

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  • The-Monk
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:08am

    What else is a community organizer to do when he’s told (and thinks) he’s the New World Order guy?

    Barry is just trying to organize his community.

    (end sarcasm)

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  • rockymtngal
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:04am

    Why is Obama still in office? It sure makes ya wonder doesn’t it? Now he’s telling more whoppers about Benghazi…as is everyone else in his administration,the CIA, etc. There is no doubt that Obama should be held personally accountable for the lives lost.

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    • Female
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:29am

      Sometimes, you sacrifice the pawn (Stevens), especially when they know too much about your gun running to the middle east.

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  • RaydocX
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:56am

    What is it about Iran that derails awful democratic presidents? They are like our mine canary

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  • SocialistSlayer
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:55am

    Communist obama is a Radical Muslim himself – of course he wants to play in the same sandbox with the Iranians !

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  • Gary_K
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:53am

    Is barry’s ability to commit treason unbounded?

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  • paul1149
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:51am

    And he wouldn’t lift a finger to help the Iranian patriots in ’09, when they had a real chance to topple the world’s worst regime, possibly with a minimum of bloodshed.

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    • Female
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:19am

      Middle East policies of the past 4 years:

      Who did he help get rid of and what were their relations w/the USA?

      Who did he supply training and guns to?

      Who has since risen to power?

      Who’s USA relations has been destroyed or seriously injured?

      Who has been made promises that upon re-election…….?

      And why was Steven’s meeting with Turkey, beaten and assasinated?

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    • marybethelizabeth
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:33am

      “And he wouldn’t lift a finger to help the Iranian patriots in ’09″

      This statement is false

      The “uprising” was instigated by American intelligence agencies. We started it.

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    • Proud Stray Dog
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 2:22pm

      Uhh….Mary Methhead.,……got proof?

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  • Individualism
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:42am

    there is nothing wrong with that, be friends with as many countries as you can and do business with them.

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    • barber2
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:51am

      INDI: Carrying the naive Lefty Obama water much ?!

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    • SocialistSlayer
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:54am

      Individualism is a known Commie obama supporter. obama could pee on his leg and he would accept it as a wonderful thing !

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:09am

      INDI subscribes to the old Ron Paul mantra… hate, blame and apologize America first… love thy enemy even firster…

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:18am

      During the primaries and Caucuses…Ron Paul said he’s ‘closer’ to Obama than GOP rivals on Iran…

      “He certainly is closer to my position than the other candidates.”

      And the Ron Paul nitwits will throw there votes to Obama again this time around…

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 11:24am

      *Their*….

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    • Individualism
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:19pm

      your the communists that support NDAA, Patriot act, murdering people abroad, regulations, higher taxes, Obamneycare and big goverment. Romney and Obama are the same idiots. Paul and Johnson supporters are actually conservatives because there trying to conserve America an its constitution.

      Iran is not a threat to anyone and it if just radical christian crusaders that want to do of what they accuse the muslim radicals of doing. Obama sucks but he is a severely lesser evil on Iran.

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    • KidCharlemagne
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 12:28pm

      barber2
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:51am

      INDI: Carrying the naive Lefty Obama water much ?!
      ===========================

      Barber2…..

      A staunch opponent of America’s Founding Fathers?:

      ——————————
      “To cherish peace and friendly intercourse with all nations having correspondent dispositions; to maintain sincere neutrality toward belligerent nations; to prefer in all cases amicable discussion and reasonable accommodation of differences to a decision of them by an appeal to arms; to exclude foreign intrigues and foreign partialities, so degrading to all countries and so baneful to free ones; to foster a spirit of independence too just to invade the rights of others, too proud to surrender our own, too liberal to indulge unworthy prejudices ourselves and too elevated not to look down upon them in others; ”
      -James Madison, Author of the United States Constitution, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1809

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    • DLV
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 1:15pm

      time2- I still don’t understand why you don’t like Paul’s policies. I’ve asked you twice before and neither time have you responded. Paul is for maximum freedom, limited govenrment etc. That was what our founders wanted. So tell me are you against our founders?

      Individualism- If you really don’t think Iran is an enemy and wants to kill Israel and us then God help you. You have your head in the sand. They have said it numerous times. Don’t ignore facts. Although I wanted to see RP be our nominee, I want Obama out first. I want him defeated. Listen to the Rand Paul and Glenn Beck interview. Interesting stuff when he makes the differences between Obama and Romney. Two differences I really like? Obama Pro-choice, Romney pro-life. Obama pro gay marriage, Romney marriage is between a man and woman. And although I would admit he is progressive lite, I would still say he has a mix of capitalism in there. I mean if you ran a PRIVATE business and don’t want government getting involved in your company, you have to be a little capitalist. Not to mention, Romney has invoked the constitution on several occasions while Obama has come out against it on several occasions. These are a few differences I can think of.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 2:08pm

      @DLV

      A question for you…How can you possibly say Mitt Romney is pro-life? His record as governor is not pro-life and he has stated in the past that he is pro-choice. Just because he claims to have changed his mind when running for president – does not mean he is pro-life….It means he is a politician

      ——————————–
      “I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970, as a US senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v Wade has been the law for 20 years, that we should sustain and support it. And I sustain and support that law, and the right of a woman to make that choice.”
      -Mitt Romney (October 25, 1994)

      I will preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose, and I am devoted and dedicated to honoring my word in that regard.”
      -Mitt Romney (2002)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lNDsyKnQIes

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 3:12pm

      DLV. The reason why I’ve never responded to you is that I’ve never seen you post to me before. My list of grievances with Ron Paul is a long one and I’ve posted them on here for well over a year and in great detail many times over. I don’t have the energy and desire to type a full-blown account of all my postings over that period of time… but I will say the start of my problem with Ron Paul dates back to Viet Nam and the lack of character he displayed with the cowardly assignments he sought out upon his draft (into the Army I might add) and then moving on from there…

      I’m all for Liberty, freedom, small government and of course… The Constitution… just not Ron Paul’s diseased Rothbardian and Rockwellian zealot driven strain of racist, anti-semitic, isolationist, anti-war/military, morally repugnant, debased and bankrupt Liberal-tarian vision.

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    • DLV
      Posted on October 29, 2012 at 9:38pm

      Time so basically you don’t like his character/history. You like his policies. Alright that’s fair.

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    • DLV
      Posted on October 29, 2012 at 10:26pm

      Soy- honestly, I don’t have a problem with him switching once. I’ve changed my mind on several different things over the years that doesn’t mean I’m a politician. Romney was no doubt more liberal in the 90s and his time as Governor of Mass. However, he has made it clear he is pro-life now. If he switched again, I would have a huge problem with it. That’s a flip flopper. If you change your mind once, I would not classify that as flip flopping. His change was for the better and I’m fine by that.

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  • psadie
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:42am

    WHEN will our govt. and the Congress learn that the only way to deal with the Islamists and all of the Arabs is from strength and not from weakness. That is what they fear the most. We need to stop the BS and come at them hard.

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    • Couyon64
      Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:49am

      I agree. Better yet, develop our own energy supplies in our Country and let them rot back to the stone age.

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  • whiterightwingchristianmale
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:38am

    Thank God we will have a new administration soon. Pro Israel, Pro American, Romney/Ryan

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on October 28, 2012 at 10:34am

    Yet one more example of the treason of Obama.

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