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Is There Life After Death? Scientist Attempts to Explain What Happens to the Human ‘Soul’
Over the past two years, the afterlife has been a subject of increased conversation in media. Most recently, Dr. Eben Alexander, a neurosurgeon, shared his own story of an alleged elevation to heaven during a near-death experience. TheBlaze has also told Colton Burpo’s story, the young boy who claims that heaven is, indeed, a real locality. Now, Dr. Stuart Hameroff, a scientist who studies quantum consciousness, is attempting to explain what happens to the “soul” after death.
In a recent episode of “Through the Wormhole,” a series on the Science television channel that is narrated by actor Morgan Freeman, Hameroff shared his views on life after death. According to the scientist, who is professor emeritus at the Departments of Anesthesiology and Psychology and the Director of the Center of Consciousness Studies at the University of Arizona, understanding consciousness is key to comprehending a variety of elements that continue to attract controversy.
Specifically, better understanding the dynamic would help to simmer debate surrounding what occurs during near-death experiences and what happens to the soul after death. Consciousness, according to Hameroff, is essentially part of the universe at large, a concept that, at the surface, is relatively complex. The Huffington Post has more about the researcher’s controversial theories:
According to Dr. Hameroff, in a near-death experience, when the heart stops beating, the blood stops flowing, and the microtubules lose their quantum state, the quantum information in the microtubules isn’t destroyed. It’s distributed to the universe at large, and if the patient is revived, the quantum information can go back to the microtubules. In this event, the patient says they had something like a near-death experience, i.e. they saw white light or a tunnel or floated out of their body. In the event that the patient is not revived, “it’s possible that the quantum information can can exist outside the body, perhaps indefinitely, as a soul,” he said.
Hameroff essentially believes that the human soul may actually be constructed from the very fabric of the universe. Quantum information, which purportedly exists within each person, in the scientist’s view, can potentially live beyond the body.
“I believe that consciousness, or its immediate precursor proto-consciousness, has been in the universe all along, perhaps from the Big Bang,” Hammeroff explains.
Here’s more about the theory, below:
This is especially fascinating, considering Alexander’s story, which was also captured for an episode of “Through the Wormhole.” You can read his story here or watch him explain it below:
Considering all of these elements, those who embrace religion may see these stories and theories as explanations of a system that is overseen by God. After all, if there is, indeed, a higher power who created the universe, why wouldn’t the human souls he also formed be an integral part of that system?
The theories are certainly fascinating, as they add to the overarching discussion and debate about what happens after death.
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Comments (196)
FlagWavingPatriot
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:35pmTry the Bible. It’s all in there.
Next topic.
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DeavonReye
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 3:22pm……right there with fire breathing dragons, unicorns, lightning that obeys deities, donkeys that see angels and talk to their rider, a man who looses his strength because his **** is cut, . . . etc.
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Ilikepeople
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 5:01pmDeavonReye,
I’m getting tired of dealing with this. When the mountains melt, and it’s written that God has a great killing it means that the population has greatly jumped in numbers. When the mountain melts then all the bullocks and unicorns come down for the feast. that means unicorns are people who worship one spiritual God, and they do for the lord, and the bullocks are also the kind who will chew on the things happening around them.
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theotherberean
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 5:12pmFor the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 1 Cor 1:18
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WhiteFang
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 5:52pmGenesis 2:17 “But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die.”
Genesis 3:19 “in the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.”
So, when we die we are actually dead, and we return to the dust. Let’s not invent belief’s that is beyond God’s simple statements.
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theotherberean
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 6:06pmHey @WITEFANG, how are you?
What are you saying? Something other than this…?
1 Cor 15:52in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we will be changed. 53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
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Valuable
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 6:13pmI was going to write almost the exact same thing!!
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WhiteFang
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 6:15pmThere will also be a resurrection of those who have died:
Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice29and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.30I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative; just as I hear, I judge; and the judgment that I render is righteous, because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him that sent me. (John 5:28-30)
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WhiteFang
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 6:55pmtheotherberean,
I will again try to have a constructive dialogue with you. But if you dive into insults, or arrogance, I will not continue with you.
Re: 1 Cor 15:52, That scripture is referring to a instantaneous spiritual resurrection to heaven for Christ’s anointed brothers, those who will be kings and priests with our Lord Jesus Christ. Revelation 5:6-10
Then, at a future time, in God’s Kingdom, the rest of redeemed mankind will experience a physical resurrection to the paradise earth. Revelation 21:1-4
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jcldwl
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 6:58pmYes it is all in the bible so this story should not be categorized under faith but under science. Science will never find the answer to heaven because it takes faith to understand and comprehend it. Science simply tries to find ways to debunk it because for some reason scientists think they are smarter than everyone else.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 8:37pmWhy is a scientist trying to figure out what happens to the “soul” when a “soul” hasn’t been proven to exist?
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YellowFin
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 9:47pmModerationIsBest,
Before we speak on any subject, moderation is best.
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yerffej
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 10:54pmMy exact thoughts, wave. Amen
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binge_thinker
Posted on October 30, 2012 at 12:12am@ Patriot
Isn’t it ironic that atheists accuse religious people of being unrealistic and intolerant, but end up making fun of religious people and insult them at every opportunity.
And that is celebrating ” reason.” Sounds more like hypocrisy to me.
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sanpedro
Posted on October 30, 2012 at 1:13amExperience trumps book learning. Learn to see your soul fire. Exhale over a mirror to see which of 5 shapes from your bottom 5 spinal energy centers your breath makes (square if from tailbone, triangle tip up if at navel, round at heart, etc). Get diagnostic breath chart from 5StarBreath.com or google Rama Prasad’s Science of Breath. Your soul print is visible as a 5 rayed blue star, one ray for each spinal center/breath shape, with each ray’s brightness and length corresponding to relative strength of your 5 energy fields around you: physical, pranic/aura/breath, electrical mind, magnetic heart and etheric spirit. Breath exercises are key to raising your energy to spinal center at heart level where spiritual growth and understanding beyond mere book/bible level happens. It also balances out your left and right brain activity.
I resonated on many points with the afterlife vision of first being a worm (Sumerians believed hell was full of dead in earthworm form doomed to blindly eat dust) then hearing music then seeing light then being a speck on a butterfly (4 wings symbolic of quadripolar tube torus magnetic energy field generated by our heart center, the CROSS in 3D. See HeartMath.com and videos by physicist Nassim Haramein).
If you want to hear the truth instead of just reading the pack of lies out put out by media/internet, get your magnetic energy field STRONG & stay heart centered. We are being tested by these lying crap weasels to see if we’re ripe for Truth. a
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DeavonReye
Posted on October 30, 2012 at 8:47amilikepeople, . . . that’s the rub, huh! When something doesn’t make sense to you, . . . it “must have been an analogy”. Welcome to your faith. What it IS. . . . . is a religion with congnative dissonance when faced with actual scientific evidence that is contrary to long held beliefs. Spinning previous stories to “mean something else”, like “messianic prophesy”.
Regardless, even if I gave you that “unicorns were analogies”, . . . that doesn’t answer all the other absurd notions [some mentioned in my post above].
Having said that, does this mean “there is no god”? Well, that is still up in the air. Can’t be proven or disproved. What it CAN say is. . . those who wrote the bible wrote out of ignorance of the natural world, being swayed by the superstitions of those times [many cultures were equally as superstitious]. Were you run into problems is exhalting the bible as an idol to where “it all MUST be true, or none of it is”. Why not see it as a history of how people once thought, wrong as it was? Should that damage your “faith”? I don’t see how it should. Remember, . . . MEN wrote the bible.
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OneofMany
Posted on October 30, 2012 at 1:38pm@FWP – you are right on.. it’s all there in the bible plain as day. Not only that, this scientist (of which I am one) fails to explain the experiences of people who ACCURATELY communicate conversations they heard in other rooms in their near death experience… so it’s more than just seeing old memories of grandma or seeing white light… I’m not saying those things don’t happen…I’m just saying the evidence points to more.
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snafued
Posted on October 30, 2012 at 10:04pmyep the god of my father and his father…said, in no uncertain terms, that you WILL stand before him ( if ya even make past saint peter at the gates )…and be judged for the life you have lived…if ya been a douchebag or a lib ( oxymoron )…well …outs ya go
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snafued
Posted on October 30, 2012 at 10:06pmummm
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FoxholeAtheist
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 2:07pmIlkpeople, we are also getting a bit tired of your kind. We are here to stay and we will not tolerate you any longer. Obama won so just shut up and sit down and let the grown ups talk.
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truthnstuff
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:24pmSome of the most educated people are “idiots” and attention hogs.
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binge_thinker
Posted on October 30, 2012 at 12:03amBook smart but life ignorant.
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The-Monk
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:59pmThe known can never measure the unknown….
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Eastinfection
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:21pmSo true MONK…
Especially for today’s High School grads…
they don’t even know how to read a basic tape measure:
http://www.comstocksmag.com/Articles/0812_SR_Education2_Losing-Ground.aspx
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The-Monk
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:25pmHi East,
That’s what happens when you takes the boys out of shop class and force drama class on them.
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The_Knower
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:32pmEmpty platitudes never explain anything either.
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The-Monk
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 2:46pm@The_Knower,
The beginning of Wisdom is “I don’t know”…..
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theotherberean
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 5:14pmWisdom rests in the heart of one who has understanding, and is even made known in the inward part of fools. Prov 14:33
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marvlus
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:52pmThe only way to know for sure is to die.
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FesteAinoriba
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:54pmNot true. There is another way.
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oldguy77
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:59pmAnd the only sure thing is you are going to die
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marvlus
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 2:55pmand be taxed…
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tomizzle2
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:49pmInteresting the way everyone that claims to believe the bible discounts the biblical acct
that refers to where the soul dies when the person dies, “the dead know nothing”. All of
these so-called intellects have to do is disclaim the bible. Seems like something as simple
as the biblical acct. is much more palpable, especially if you claim to believe any if the bible.
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ThisGuysNameIsRandy
Posted on November 2, 2012 at 10:19pmIf your refering to soul sleep I know what you mean. I used to believe in that. The body and the soul are 2 different things. The body returns to the dust waiting for the rapture (resurrection) but the soul and spirit go to heaven or hell.
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Jobeycool
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:44pmIt is totally amazing how people pretend to know for a fact the origin of life when the bible even says it is a mystery and people must have faith to believe in God.Now watch all the faith haters go nuts because someone believes in faith.
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OniKaze
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:42pmIs there life after Death?? I would like to hope so… But somehow I doubt it…. I make no effort to hide that fact that I don’t buy into “man-made” religions… God is not found in some book or building… He is in all of us, and everything around us… THAT is all that matters…
I would like to think that after we die, everything we have done won’t amount to nothing…. But THAT is a possibility we ALL must be prepared for… (just in case..).
LIVE Life, LOVE Life, and don’t allow room to REGRET ANYTHING!! Whether you believe in “God” or not, we should enjoy the life we were given, and celebrate the potential of the world we have…
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Eastinfection
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:08pmONIKAZE…
Try this one on….
I believe the “Id / ego/ soul” part of you exists in a constant that goes in all directions at all times. Infinite past and present activity… Picture it like this..
When you die… you’re born again as the exact same person and live the exact same life you just did.
“Predestination” if you will….. But you actually have the freewill the whole time to make different choices….. but you never do because your always you… The “Id” part of you is dying and being born again an infinite amount of times per second in an infinite amount of dimensions…
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The-Monk
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:19pmHi East,
How many mushrooms at that Allman Bros concert???
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Eastinfection
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:59pmlol Monk…
um.. there were a few other times as well..
Combine that with a Jesuit High school education
followed by switching majors 3 times from Fine Arts to Literature to Philosophy before bailing on the whole thing and enrolling in Agricultural School…
….and you find yourself often “measuring the known vs the unknown” hypothetically in your head..
I have many more crackpot theories about all sorts of human nature related subjects.. ;)
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oldguy77
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 2:02pmOne would be wise to believe,since in the end the believer would lose nothing, unbelievers everything,if proved wrong.
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TRUTHSENSE
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 3:21pmONIKAZE, where did you learn all this? If it came from your brain, it sounds like a another “man made religion” to me.
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The-Monk
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 3:47pmHi East,
What do you suppose would happen to someone who actually figured “it” all out?
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theotherberean
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 5:17pmFor God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:16
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 8:42pm@OLDGUY77
I(an atheist) am in the exact same situation as you (I presume a Christian?) if Allah is God.
You are making a false comparison here and you would not “lose nothing” if wrong.
If you are wrong, you spent your whole life living a lie and being an unrelenting hypocrite by saying other Gods were wrong but yours was the TRUE God.
If you like being a hypocrite, that is your choice.
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INTHEBROTHERHOOD
Posted on October 30, 2012 at 9:55pmat ok.God is found in every book and building. Dont b mislead…by the way, its not God who we seek. Jesus was our redeemer. and through His spirit we can be saved
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ChrisDiamond
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:42pmWith all the information about how neurotransmitters like dopamine, seratonin and norepinephrine, and other chemicals released in the brain during NDEs like Ketamine and DMT, we should give no credence to these fantasies when we can explain these experiences with measurable, biochemical scientific data.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:16pmYou right. I mean, who is this guy? He’s only the professor emeritus at the Departments of Anesthesiology and Psychology and the Director of the Center of Consciousness Studies at the University of Arizona.
We should discount all of this and listen to you, an anonymous poster on a news story. You’re clearly WAY smarter than him.
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leuken
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 2:15pmChris,
I am very interested in DMT. It is a highly powerful hallucinogenic compound released by the Pineal gland in the center of our brains. Those who have ingested DMT/Ayahuasca have had similar experiences of those who have hade NDEs. However, the NDE experiences seem even more vivid and real than anything. It’s easy to assume that this is an easy scientific explanation to it all.
My question is: WHY? Why is there a gland in the center of our brains that invokes a dramatic transcendent experience? Why do we have this biological “God detector” in our makeup? The Evolutionary Biologist would say something like “well, you see, we evolved this for some reason, maybe so we wouldn’t fear death.” That seems a silly notion to me.
Maybe there is a reason for this and NDEs are real and we are experiencing a transcention to a different form. Why is it so difficult for scientific-minded people to imagine possibilities outside of conventional wisdom?
We as humans have consciousness and a soul that loves and creates. Why would we assume that we are the first beings in the Universe to do these things?
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Watermain
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:35pmFascinating that a guy with that incredible title at some university can explain away with scientific mumbo-jumbo something that most people fundamentally either believe or they don’t believe. I don’t remember learning that the microtubules contain quantum information. I thought they had to do with cell reproduction. Oh well, I am not a professor emeritus of anything.
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hi
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:33pmIt’s the mind vs the brain. That is a huge difference that scientists cannot explain.
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beckistheking
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:39pmLOL. Please! my ribs!! Who fed you that hogwash?
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Eastinfection
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:56pmBECK…
i think Hi’s point is that the relationship between the “Id” and the “organ” is unique and cannot be fully explained scientifically without making a significant amount of assumptions and suppositions…
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TRUTHSENSE
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 3:31pmThe mind is who a person is. The brain, if all is working properly, is able to express the mind, or the person. Do you think you can see yourself in a mirror? You only see the “house” that you, your mind, lives in. You really don’t see “you”, who you really are. Death is simply when the “house” is no longer inhabitable and the real you leaves to spend eternity in one of two places.
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JoMama4
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 5:45pm“You may have mind control, but I have brain control.”
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TEIN
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:24pmGenesis: 4 ¶These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
Why is it so hard to comprehend that there is spiritual matter and physical matter and that each has their own set of governing laws?
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chips1
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:24pmOn the other hand, Obama is the exception to the rule. Lucifer doesn’t have one.
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yerffej
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 11:03pmgood one
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Calm Voice of Reason
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:13pmHere is an excellent dismantling of the “Heaven Is Real” account that made all the news recently:
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/this-must-be-heaven
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WHATYOUSAY
Posted on October 30, 2012 at 9:52amAnd here is an excellent rebuttal to Mr. Harris’s article.
http://www.skeptiko.com/sam-harris-wont-debate-eben-alexander-on-near-death-experience-science/
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Calm Voice of Reason
Posted on October 30, 2012 at 11:45amUmm, yeah. “Transpersonal psychology”, “non-local consciousness”, “past life”, and “reincarnation”; These are essential ingredients to every concoction of genuine snake-oil.
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binge_thinker
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 8:45pmSam Harris?? Puleez
I often wonder why do you people that believe God isn’t real, spend basically every waking minute spewing emotionally charged invective at him? Sounds more like the mumblings of a mad man.
One wonders if good ol Sam expends as much energy ranting about Tinkerbell or Bigfoot. At the very least Sam should be consistent.
Don’t ya think?
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louie louie
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:12pmNo atheist has been willing to take me up on my bet, which is this:
If I am right, and there is life after death, then you will be my slave for eternity.
If you are right, and there is no life after death, then I will be yours.
Any takers?
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beckistheking
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:15pmThat’s just stupid. That’s why you’re feeling so lonely there sport. wow
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OniKaze
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:36pmI would say that is a one sided bet (which would explain why NO-ONE will take you up on it…)
If you win, you get a slave (which I am sure God would LOVE you for… Enslaving someone’s soul… What a “kind” thing to do over a silly bet) and if you lose, NOTHING happens…
So you have no skin in the game (so to speak)… No wonder not a single person would take you up on it… There is NO give-or-take on your part… Just take…. Only Obama supporters would be so stupid..
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SmithandWesson
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:46pmJust tell the atheists since they don’t believe in God, for their sake, they better be right.
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DeavonReye
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 3:17pmAnd if some OTHER god or goddess was the true one. . . .or ones, . . . and not Yahweh, . . . what will YOU do?
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God_Is_Not
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 3:34pmWhat if you’re wrong about Allah?
Now all the sudden we have the same answer.
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Words_of_the_Buddah
Posted on October 30, 2012 at 6:44pmI would take that, but it would have to be modified.
If there is a life after death in the Christian sense of it, I will gladly become your slave.
However, if there is an afterlife in the sense that I believe in, that is, Reincarnation, then you must choose to be reborn as an untouchable in India.
How about that?
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torxed
Posted on November 4, 2012 at 6:39pmI will take that bet anytime or place without hesitation.
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Calm Voice of Reason
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:08pmStopped reading after “quantum consciousness”. Quackery, through and through.
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beckistheking
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:14pmIt is absolute nonsense. Trying to use science to support claims of the supernatural is ludicrous.
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:21pmThere is some quackery alright – The part where he talks about the bogus “Big Bang Theory ” !
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leuken
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 2:27pmSir,
You do realize that the notion that the Earth revolved around the Sun was, at one point in time, “Quackery”
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God_Is_Not
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 3:35pmGerm theory was also ‘quackery’ at one point.
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Calm Voice of Reason
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 4:54pm@Leuken: No, ’twas “heresy”.
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Chatikh
Posted on October 30, 2012 at 1:25amThe difference between this and all those other theories is that all of those had evidence to support them when they were proposed. This has none.
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COFemale
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:06pmAs one who had an out of body experience, I can tell you it is an interesting feeling. I had the flu. I went to bed and before I knew it I was floating above my bed looking down. It did not last long. I was not in bed long enough to have fallen asleep. I was lying on my back so I think my heart stopped briefly. I have a mild case of sleep apnea and sometimes jolt myself awake gasping for a breath. I now sleep on my side so that does not happen often, but sometimes even now just lying on my back watching TV and drifting asleep I stop breathing.
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hi
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:24pmSleep apnea causes very serious medical problems.
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Eastinfection
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:25pmI had an out-of-body experience once, too…
though it was after eating a bunch of mushrooms at an Allman Bros. show….
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hi
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:35pmPS you can treat sleep apnea is what I was trying to say! Need to get treatment!
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NILAP
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 11:57amSomeday a Thomas Edison like scientist will create a way where all folks can experience the actual ‘light at the end of the tunnel’ or the light emanating from the door or gate of heaven. We will not actual be in heaven but be in the presence of heaven before us.
This profound experience will change the priorities of all humanity, where each soul will continually be looking out for the welfare of all others. For example, a ‘Donald Trump’ would realize that living surrounded by wealth and riches is meaningless based on experiencing the presence of Heaven. He would use his talents and we all would to make sure all humanity is cared for. Right now, humanity as a whole does not have this consciousness – hence the divide between the left and the right.
This light that a Thomas Edison type figure or group of scientist inspired by God will illuminate the souls of all humanity. Crime would be a thing of the past, having experienced the light of Heaven and the innate awareness, not belief, that God exists and loves us.
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NILAP
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:01pmIn summary, Heaven will truly be on earth and we will all know first-hand without the need for belief that we live forever.
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Eastinfection
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:23pmSounds like the movie “Flat-liners”
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Lotus503
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 11:54amI’m not sure about life after death…but I’m reasonably positive about death after life….
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OniKaze
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:37pmToo True
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Thomas
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:15pmThe death philosophy is the selfish view of life and determined to be a fact because of a majority. Few that are that find the way that leads to life.However we must reap what we sow.
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voting-for-romney
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 11:47amDon’t you think God gets insulted, every time he hears the phrase “why are we here”? That questions just pretends He does not exist, yet find one highly intelligent person, who thinks they are smarter than the rest of us, not ask this question?
Here is the answer to why you are here, God said be fruitful and MULTIPLY? Get busy people? :)
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ChildOfTheKing
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 11:55amwrong. WE ARE HERE TO SERVE THE CREATOR………..duh.
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hatchetjob
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:04pmCHILDOFTHEKING, Right on, to serve and know God.
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beckistheking
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:06pmNonsense. Mixing the term science with a lot of superstitious, unproven nonsense changes nothing. This is all hogwash, just like all religions. Superstition, hogwash, false narratives that have never and will never be supported by proof and facts. Grow up people. It’s 2012.
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Eastinfection
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:20pmVOTING…
“Don’t you think God gets insulted, every time he hears the phrase “why are we here”?…”
No, i don’t…
In fact, i think God would be pleased to hear this question asked as often as it is..
i think figuring out “why we are here” IS why we are here…
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ChildOfTheKing
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 2:08pm@beckistheking: I wish I were a fly on the wall during your last breaths. I will just bet you that YOU WILL BELIEVE IN GOD THEN. Oh, BTW, it is NOT enough to just believe in God; even the demons in hell believe in God. It is ONLY thru Jesus Christ’s sacrifice on the cross for you and me, that you will be saved, but ONLY IF YOU PERSONALLY ASK JESUS TO SAVE YOU.
Christianity is THE ONLY RELIGION TO OFFER MANKIND THE A SACRIFICE OF GOD’S SON.
No other religion on the earth offers that. DON’T YOU THINK THAT THIS REQUIRES YOU TO DO MORE HOMEWORK ON WHY YOU NEED THE SAVIOR TO ENTER HEAVEN?
Smart men and women, who actually believe in something greater than themselves, will do the research on this and come to a viable decision that will affect their eternal abode somewhere.
AND, if you really believe that you SLEEP and never awake again, then you are saying that GOD MADE US IN VAIN and that the sacrifice of His Son, Jesus, was a lie.
BOY, WILL YOU BE SURPRISED WHEN YOU GO TO YOUR GRAVE.
Hope it works out for you, BUT I KNOW IT WON’T.
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oldguy77
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 2:19pmThats the trouble with people who are gay.They cant do math.They can not multiply.
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Chatikh
Posted on October 30, 2012 at 1:35am@OLDGUY77
Same with old people, lets take away their rights too.
Just because some people don’t have children on their own doesn’t make it unnatural. It means people come in all forms.
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MrButcher
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 11:45amWell, there is only one way to find out….
We all have it coming, kid.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 11:42amInteresting. I’ve always believed that God works withing the laws of science that He created. A “miracle” is nothing more than proof that we don’t always know every aspect of science and God does. Perhaps there are exceptions to the laws of physics we have not yet discovered? Does not this happen all the time in science? Maybe there is a scientific explanation to the Red Sea parting or other miracles in the Bible. I have no problem believing this.
If the people of Moses’ day seen today’s scientific achievements, wouldn’t they believe them to be “miracles”?
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ChildOfTheKing
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 11:50amRomans 1:22: Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools
Barnes’ Notes on the Bible:
Professing themselves to be wise – This was the common boast of the philosophers of antiquity. The very word by which they chose to be called, “philosophers,” means literally “lovers of wisdom.” That it was their boast that they were wise, is well known; compare Romans 1:14; 1 Corinthians 1:19, 1 Corinthians 1:20, 1 Corinthians 1:22; 1 Corinthians 3:19; 2 Corinthians 11:19.
They became fools – Compare Jeremiah 8:8-9. They became really foolish in their opinions and conduct. There is something particularly pungent and cutting in this remark, and as true as it is pungent. In what way they evinced their folly, Paul proceeds immediately to state. Sinners of all kinds are frequently spoken of as fools in the Scriptures. In the sense in which it is thus used, the word is applied to them as void of understanding or moral sense; as idolaters, and as wicked; Psalm 14:1; Proverbs 26:4; Proverbs 1:17, Proverbs 1:22; Proverbs 14:8-9. The senses in which this word here is applied to the pagan are,
(1) That their speculations and doctrines were senseless; and,
(2) That their conduct was corrupt.
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beckistheking
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:17pmOnly a fool would believe ancient writings of superstitious ignorant people are factual. They are not.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:11pm@BECKISTHEKING
You stay up all night coming up with that brilliant response? Freaking troll.
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:23pmOh btw, those “silly” ancient writings have been proven to be historically accurate in every way we can measure them. Ask an archaeologist. Also, the amount of Old Testament prophecies that have been fulfilled EXACTLY the way they were prophesied is statistically a miracle. But, I guess you don’t believe in that new fangled MATH thing do you?
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The_Knower
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:36pm@SquidVetOhio
You can’t just say that the prophecies were fulfilled; you have to point them out and demonstrate them. Otherwise, you are just pulling proof from your behind.
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DeavonReye
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 2:18pmUh, . . . I’ve seen otherwise . . . on the “historical evidence”. SOME real cities or locations, sure. But so what! That prove nothing at all. Other “mystical writings” used real locations. Are they automatically true? No.
And messianic prophesy is hardly credible or compelling either. VAGUE parts of stories [not the whole] can be made to say anything, if you spin them the right way. Parts that DON’T match are “not a part of the prophesy”, conveniently.
No, there is nothing compelling in the bible.
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theotherberean
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 5:33pmQuestion: “How do I know the Bible is not just mythology?”
Answer: http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-mythology.html
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 11:40amYes. Thank God.
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Thighmaster
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 11:39amThis is what I’ve been saying all along..
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NILAP
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 11:38amI would like to read his explanation of what happens to a newborn, fetus or young child if they die. Does their quantum information progress and grow as a soul ?
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Ravings of a lunatic planet
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 11:33amJust ask someone that has had a NDE……..they will tell you that they know God is real………the hell with these scientists…………maybe they should just stick to Global Warming…..something that they really know all about………..give me a break. ugh.
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ChildOfTheKing
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 11:53amYes, these are SECULAR WISE MEN, which does not mean they are SPIRITUAL WISE MEN.
Frankly, I would prefer the 2nd one over the 1st one because ETERNITY IS A VERY LOOOONNNNNGGGG TIME NOT TO BELIEVE IN GOD, THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE, MANKIND, AND OUR SOUL.
If you believe in the Big Bang or you do not believe in God, then eternity will be very long for you WITHOUT GOD. So, this is what I tell those people who do not believe in God and divine providence:
If YOU ARE RIGHT in believing there is no God, then I will have lost NOTHING.
If I AM RIGHT in believing THERE IS A GOD, then YOU WILL HAVE LOST IT ALL.
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beckistheking
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 12:12pmChildofthkin, you’re use of threats and fear tactics are silly. You’re all wrapped up in all kinds of superstitious beliefs that are false. They’re unproven. They’re stories made up by men who never even used dental floss and who thought the world was flat. This article is also a load of hogwash. This so-called scientis has no proof to support his theory and he should be ashamed of himself for behaving so unprofessionally. We people die, they’re dead just like every other living thing. We’re no different and to think we are is the height of arrogance and ignorance.
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louie louie
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 1:07pmBECKISTHEKING, the height of arrogance and ignorance is to go around bombing everyone else’s posts calling them false, silly, superstitious, and hogwash just because YOU don’t agree with them. You’re not God, and you’re certainly not all-knowing. To assume you know what happens after death is beyond arrogance. Do you also think water that evaporates is gone forever just because you can’t see it any more? If you were honest, the most you could say is that you don’t know what happens after death. Your claims are nothing more than your beliefs. You are free to believe whatever you want, but don’t try to pass off your belief (or non-belief) as fact or science. It’s nothing of the sort.
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DeavonReye
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 2:13pmBut “dead and gone, like any other lifeform” has actual evidence. “Living in a blissful or hellish afterlife” doesn’t. Yes, people are free to believe what they want, . . . but when one side tries to use scare tactics to convert, you’ve already lost the war. If it has merit, . . . it will stand on its own without scary imagery. If it doesn’t have merit, . . . use of threats is a common theme.
There is arrogance on both the side of the atheist AND the theist. That’s why “agnostic” is the stance I take. I lean towards “no gods”, but still consider the possibility. However, “just believing to keep me out of hell” would never be an honest one . . . unless all there IS. . . is a “believe and worship me or die horribly” type of being out there.
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ChildOfTheKing
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 2:17pm@beckistheking: Threat? Huh Trolling again are you, Encinom?
I get my info from the Holy Bible, the ONLY book in the world that offers God’s Son as the ultimate sacrifice to mankind, IF THEY CHOOSE TO BELIEVE SO. No one is forcing you to do anything and I certainly am not threatening anymore, but, the fact does remain that if you are right, you will find out that I was wrong and whatever you believe will be proven as correct. However, if you are wrong, then you will never see or have hope of an eternal life with God, the Father.
I feel sorry for you and it is very sad that you are so closed and narrow-minded.
There are hundreds of pagan religions out there, but NOT ONE OFFERS GOD’S SON AS THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE FOR MAN’S SOUL. Christianity is the ONLY one. DOESN’T THAT MAKE YOU WONDER HOW THE BIBLE WAS ABLE TO COME THIS FAR, OVER 2,000 YEARS WHEN OTHER PAGAN RELIGIONS EITHER DISAPPEARED, HAVE LIMITED FOLLOWERS WHO DEPEND ON GOOD WORKS ONLY to get them into Heaven. which is CONTRARY TO THE HOLY BIBLE?????
It just proves that YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, just like some of these so-called experts who claim there is no God.
Look, it makes me sad that anyone will argue against God, but believe me when I say, it won’t matter to me if I die and you still aren’t a believer in a God who made you and this universe. It will be no skin off my nose. I WILL BE WITH JESUS IN HEAVEN. Where will you be? Too bad for you and I am sorry for you, as well.
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ChildOfTheKing
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 2:24pmAll of you:
You shadow your personal vengence against God with calling us, who tried to get you to open your eyes, as threats. THOSE ARE YOUR WORDS, not mine.
However, the Bible does state THAT THERE IS ONLY 1 WAY TO HEAVEN AND THAT IS ONLY THRU JESUS CHRIST. If you call it a threat, then take that up with God. HE GIVES YOU A CHOICE so stop whining that He or I is threatening you. CHOICES. We all have them, don’t we.
If you choose not to believe, fine. BUT KNOW THIS, YOU ARE CALLING GOD A LIAR IF YOU TELL THE REST OF US THAT THE BIBLE IS NOT TRUE OR THAT HE DOES NOT EXIST. You will answer to HIM, not me.
God will NOT be mocked, says the Bible and He certainly will try, until the day you die, to get your attention, to draw you to HIM, because HE LOVES YOU THAT MUCH. God cannot and will not allow evil into Heaven and that is why you must make a choice between Him or not Him. God is perfect and without sin. YOU AND I ARE so that is why mankind needed a sacrifice to take care of all those sins, present, future, and past. WITHOUT THAT SAVIOR, you and I would be doomed to eternity elsewhere (even I do not like to say where).
The devil would just LOVE to keep you from believing, which means HE ALREADY HAS YOU.
I hope you will dig into the Bible and find out what God wants for your life. Start in the Book of John in the New Testament. It will tell you God plan for mankind and what you need to do to see Him and be with Him for eternity.
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DeavonReye
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 3:12pmchildoftheking, your words just don’t hold any water these days. The christian message expanded BECAUSE of threats and violence when other religions were equally valid, yet were conquered by the more powerful armies of Rome, when it “converted to christainity”. And when you know HOW the bible was put together and how the Hebrews were before christianity rewrote much of it, you can only see it as the works of man.
You mention that christianity is the “only one with a sacrificed god for sins”. So what! It is immoral to even REQUIRE a sacrifice [something dying bloody] before a “powerful god is satisfied”. It is barbaric. The very ideology SCREAMS human invention, in fact. . . . as many of the concepts in the bible prove as well.
Feel free to see my response as “anger at god”. It is absurd for you to conclude that, however. First you must prove that “a god” exists. Then you must show that “a god actually interacts with the natural world”. Then that it is actually one that CARES for humans. Finally that ANY works of man [written language] could fully explain, without misunderstanding and personal influences, this type of being . . . that NEVER shows itself in the first place! The words you read were from a man’s mind. That’s it. Prove otherwise.
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theotherberean
Posted on October 29, 2012 at 6:00pm@DEVON said: “That’s why “agnostic” is the stance I take. I lean towards “no gods”, but still consider the possibility.”
I appreciate your intellectual honesty. There are no atheists in foxholes. ha
I claimed agnostic once, but I have studied how the bible came to be for several decades now and I am convinced the Bible is everything it claims to be. I don’t believe it’s works of man. It was penned by men but it revealed itself to me as “God-Breathed” when studied in depth.
Of course we can’t prove that God exists.That knowledge can only come from the Holy Spirit through the Gospel message and by reading the Bible. Try a Mac Arthur Study Bible. Lots of explanations, and Scripturally accurate on the important issues.
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mandmsgirl
Posted on October 30, 2012 at 1:24amThey can ask me…I died in 89, the doctor said I was dead and they were wheeling me to the morgue, one minute I (my spirit)was on the ceiling, the next minute I was in hell…If Christ had not come to me at that time I would not be alive today
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DeavonReye
Posted on October 30, 2012 at 8:37ammandmsgirl, that runs contrary to the christian religion that says you loose your chance after death. Once you die, then the judgement, thus if you were “on your way to hell”, you were judged already and was going there. . . . . . . . . . . IF you believe the christian doctrines, of course, which I don’t.
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beckistheking
Posted on October 30, 2012 at 4:54pmChildofthekin, your beliefs are false. Your delusions are not my burdens. You will be the one who will be surprised when you see that your mythical savior has not returned to earth when you’re nearing the end of your life. You’ll remember that I told you that myth would never become a reality too.
The Christian myth of sacrifice to wash away sin is primitve thinking. It’s like scape-goating. Sins were placed on a goat and it was sent off into the desert to carry them away. Nonsense then and nonsense now. Superstitious claptrap. The very idea of Jesus dying for sins is repulsive and ridiculous. Utter nonsense is what it is. Just as bad as that virgin birth story and just as false.
BTW goober, your glee from the thought of another fellow human being being tortured for eternity is very typical of you so-called Jesus followers. At heart many of you are fearful, vindictive, mean-spirited people who hide behind your faith for selfish reasons. You think you’re going to get some great prize when you die because you pretended to believe in your god and a bunch of ancient writings that were cobbled together. The truth is, you will die just like everyone else and that will be the end of it. Life now is all we get. It’s better to live it free of delusion, fear and negativity than to be a slave to some collection of false beliefs. Off you go now.
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beckistheking
Posted on October 30, 2012 at 5:02pmChildofthekin, if the only way to heaven is through Jesus, then I suppose all the people who died before Jesus did are excluded then. And what about the Neanderthals who made art, played music, buried their dead with flowers etc. and aren’t even mentioned in the Bible? They were people too. Why are they left out? The bible is not the word of any all-knowing deity. We know enough about our ancient history, science etc. to easily see that the religious narrative is false now. You have a lot of emotional issues and I truly feel pity for you. You’re brainwashed into believing false things about the supernatural realm and that’s a shame.
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binge_thinker
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 8:51pm@ Beck King
You seem to be under the delusion that you made a point. As to delusions and hallucinations much of Darwin’s Origin of the Species should be at the top of the unscientific list, but their is no reason to burn it. Biochemistry, genetics and the Law of Biogenesis long since indicated that Darwinian macro-evolution beyond the species level (genera, families etc.) and involving changes in morphological types as incompatible with the scientific method.
I mean the logical failures, the obvious ignorance of Christian theology, the rant against the despotic sky bully, and let us not forget the multiple examples of argumentum ad Hominem — it was all so utterly typical . I’ve rarely seen a comedic send up of atheist irrationality so spot on as this one.
You need to take this off Broadway my friend and embark on a national tour. I’m happy to launch a Kickstarter campaign for you. Comedy such as yours must be shared with the rest of the world.
P.S. They’ll be laughing at you, not with you.
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