Which Religious Group Is Most Likely to Abstain From Pre-Marital Sex? (The Results Will Surprise You)
A new study is likely to surprise evangelical Christians, who are typically more-than-vocal about the necessity that adherents wait until they’re married to engage in sexual intercourse. The study, from the American Sociological Review, found that Muslims and Hindus in the developing world are more likely than their Christian and Jewish counterparts to hold off on engaging in pre-marital sex.
“All major world religions discourage sex outside of marriage, but they are not all equally effective in shaping behavior,” Adamczyk told Religion News Service (RNS).
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The conclusion reached in the study came from an analysis of Demographic and Health Surveys (funded by the U.S. Agency for International Development). The data included was collected from 31 developing countries between the years of 2000 and 2008. Considering the focus of the study, the data used for the purpose of this study, which was led by Amy Adamczyk and doctoral student Brittany E. Hayes at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City, was based upon marital status and sexual activity.
RNS has more about the social science exploration, entitled, “Understanding the Influence of Islamic Cultures and Religious Affiliation for Explaining Sex Outside of Marriage,” and its findings:
The authors hypothesized that the larger the proportion of Muslims and Hindus in a country, the lower the rates of premarital and extramarital sex.
Adamczyk and Hayes found that 94 percent of Jews in the nations they studied reported having premarital sex, compared to 79 percent of Christians, 65 percent of Buddhists, 43 percent of Muslims and 19 percent of Hindus.
As for extramarital sex, 4 percent of Jews reported having sex outside of marriage, compared to 3 percent of Christians. Less than one percent each of Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists reported having extramarital sex.
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While some might attribute these results to theology, there are actually cultural differences that may lead Muslims, in particular, to more readily avoid pre-marital intercourse. In many Islamic nations men and women have limited interaction — something that generally leads to fewer opportunities for romantic involvement.
“The burqa really works,” the Rev. Paul Sullins, a sociologist at the Catholic University of America, told RNS. “When you cover your women head to toe with cloth to keep them from being viewed by men outside their family, and you keep them strictly segregated from men throughout their growing years until they get married, you’re going to have less premarital sex.”
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(H/T: Religion News Service)
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Karama
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:36amI don’t know if I believe this or not. I think these numbers are just as made up as our jobless numbers. I’ve seen too many stories about “marriage rape” where they marry a woman have sex with her and then either kill her or divorce her. Also I have read stories about babies over there being found left in trash bins, burkahs hide pregnancy very well. (Fabric does not stop rape, but a gun is very affective.)
Also the way they view homosexuality is very off too. Only the man on the bottom is gay.
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threedoor
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 1:54pmYep, and remember ‘buy a boy’ thursday before repenting on friday. Sharia says that there is no age of consent under 10 and children are property. Lots of gay child prostitution
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NOFX
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 2:27pmIf the study came up as “evangelical Christians” then I would know that the “results” would be completely wrong. Hindus make sense and Muslims makes sense on the woman’s part. Muslim men, however, are the group that has the highest rape statistics, no matter what their ethnicity. The ironic thing about many Christian sects is that many believe it is adultery to get remarried after a divorce but they don’t place as much emphasis on getting trashed and having sex outside of marriage. They rationalize it by citing that their situation is unique, that they are already “saved” so I guess anything goes just as long as they accept Jesus as their Christ.
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shorelineliz
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 2:46pmYou are right! this is UTTER CRAP! For instance. Did you know that in the Middle East if you don’t have sex with a woman’s ****** prior to marriage but you do have anal intercourse with her it isn’t considered sex? Yes! Do you know that in order for Muslims to OBEY the HADITH (Teachings of the Prophet) that they are required to believe in HIS VISION of seeing all women falling into HELL? So, at a matter of CULTURAL PRACTICE they impregnate their wives for having the children, BUT, at other times have sex with men? Can you say, “Pashtun” of AFghanistan and elsewhere? As young as 6 boys are “Poked” you know where getting them ready for male anal sex? My EX Iraqi brother-in-law told us everything about the sexual practices of “the DEvout” in the Middle East. STraight up perverts! This “study” is a LIE!
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GPS-Tech
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 2:46pmI was just talking to one of my relatives yesterday who is active duty in the Marine Corp. about the sick sexual habits of the afghan muslims. He told me that the older Afghan men have young “tea” boys living with them who are basicly their sex slaves. He has been on two tours of duty in Afghanistan and said that the Afghan soldiers haze the new recruits by raping them. He also told me that the whoever the guy is that cooks for the afghan soldiers within that company has the role of the “woman” in that group.
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DNOLAN
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 2:48pmTo all reading this story, understand this is propaganda. It is designed to build / implant the idea that the nation of Islam is a moderate, spiritual faith of respect and morals.
This is far from the truth.
BRANDIE05BAB has persistently provided false information throughout the comments, giving praise where it is not due.
The truth is this, the nation of Islam, and the countries under its control lead the world in instances of:
Rape
Public execution
public violent demonstration
Abuse of human rights
Inequality of sexes
lack of freedom and rights
“Brandie” is either a 3rd generation Muslim living in a western country, free of the bonds her counterparts face in true Islam nations. Or, she is a creation, a man spouting propaganda to mislead the public.
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philip
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 3:49pm? does this study include both partys or just the 9yr old girl ubducted into marrage?
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NOFX
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 4:14pm@Christians: There are a lot of sick things done under Sharia Law that is part of the Muslim religion in that country. Which means they are NOT breaking the law nor going against their religious beliefs. This study is not skewed. Christians are required to live a higher law.
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NOFX
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 4:19pmI’m sure most or all Christians have committed adultery. Christians were given that higher law, whereas Muslims were not. This story isn’t propaganda. Just stating the facts.
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brandie05bab
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 4:50pm@DNOLAN.. never heard of a 3rd generation muslim, sorry. And I am an actual proud muslim woman that is sadened by what CULTURE has done to women throughout human existence.
It’s not just Islam. It’s everywhere, every religion, but more prominent in certain cultures. I’ll leave it at that. Not trying to argue w/people that don’t really care to learn about a religion & would rather go off what the media says.
Have a nice day.
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DNOLAN
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 5:02pm3rd generation, meaning your grand parents moved to a different country, making them 1st in your families generations to live in that nation, your parents, 2nd generation, were born in the new country, and more widely accepting of the new countries culture. 3rd generation means you are twice removed from the culture of Islam. You dont understand the culture because you only experience the watered down version told to you by your grandparents on special occasions.
Now, your assumption that “it is everywhere”.
My country, and my culture, my upbringing, all scream that rape is wrong and the fault of the aggressor, that all men are equal, and all woman are equal to men. That public execution is wrong, demeaning. That we are not granted but expectant of base rights as humans. That we deserve a right to equal and fair justice for all. That is NOT the norm of Islam.
Case and point, the young pakistani female student shot in the head last month for speaking out about equal educational rights for women. Ever heard of that happening in the US? No. But when it happens in Pakistan, theres no public outcry, no revolution, no response. Your Muslim culture accepted and allowed it to happen.
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brandie05bab
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 5:11pmTo be real honest, I don’t really care what your definition of a 3rd generation muslim is. I’m muslim & I come from all mormons & catholics, born in germany & Italy. Thanks for assuming, once again, quite the opposite. Please don’t respond. This is pointless & unnecessary.
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DNOLAN
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 5:20pmBut you proove my point there Brandie. You portray yourself as a Muslim, but you are in a western country. Your rights there are granted by the culture of the country you are in, not the culture associated with the religion you have been able to choose to follow.
Had you been born in Egypt, your parents would have been murdered long before you were conceived. If by a miracle you were somehow born, your Muslim faith wouldn’t be a free choice, it would have been forced on you at birth. And, your right to post online, learn to read and write, and freedom of speech would be non existent. As with most Islamic nations, women do not have the right to an education. You had one because of the western, and not Islamic culture you were raised in.
You portray yourself as the average Muslim female, but you are so far from it.
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moonstruck2
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 7:08pmNice reach sir! you probably engage in fornication if you’re not married,and it you are married whose to say you’ve been faithful and if you are faithful you probably had premarital sex with your present wife! Therefore, you think eveybody is like you!!
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4XGrace
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 7:22pmOdd that the religions most conditioned to lie (have no compunction against lying) are posting the lowest numbers.
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Chinishque
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 7:24pmWhat a complete pile of made-up crap!!!!! Even if this were all actually reported numbers it is full of shiite…First…the middle-eastern men and boys engage in sex with each other but it is not considered sex or homosexuality, so they don’t count that. Second, if a woman is raped (and there is a high occurance of that with muslim men, they don’t count that or report it because of the sigma and punishment…maybe death. Third…these turds have multiple wives so how does that play into things? Fourth, ever been to a strip club in Detroit? Full of ‘good & pious’ Muslim men buying hookers and drinking alcohol.
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Larry Holmes
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 8:30pmNOFX: You are correct, generally, in what you say about some christians believing they can do anything wrong once they accept Jesus as their Savior. However, this attitude is a fabrication of those sects which accept it, and does not ring true with what Jesus taught during his ministry, and what He has taught since His resurrection. In order to become a follower of Jesus and be “saved”, that is, have your sins forgiven so you would be clean and able to enjoy the company of God the Father, you must try to live as righteously as you can, which includes refraining from sex outside of marriage and outside of moral bounds (no homosexuality, or anything else mentioned here, etc.) If you think you can get a one-time round trip ticket to “heaven” and then live an immoral, wicked life, and be saved by Jesus, He will set you straight without hesitation. Of course, the judging is up to Him and not us, but we must still think things through so we know how to behave. The simplified version is: Jesus requires that we try to find ways to OBEY His laws and teachings, NOT that we try to find ways to obtain the ultimate blessing, and then spend our lives trying to “cheat” our way out of honoring our committments to Him. Why would a true disciple want to do that anyway?
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Southerner01
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:19pmI don’t know, i think the whole, we’re going to stone you to death if you do it, is a pretty good deterrent, although utterly evil and unacceptable.
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Eastinfection
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:40pmHey Brandi- girl……
the second photo in this story would make a great avatar for you…
that is… if you’re going to stick around for more than a day….
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GPS-Tech
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 12:34am@NOFX
What religion do you believe in?
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NOFX
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 12:54amI consider myself Christian. Regarding the adultery comment, I was referring to the scripture “whoso looketh upon a women and lusteth after her within his heart has committed adultery” or something close to that.
As for Muslims, the peaceful ones want a caliphate but they disagree with the radical Muslims that want to bring it about by violence. I think even westernized Muslims believe that Jews should be extinct. Islam, in general, bothers me cuz it’s much more than a religion.
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Luke21
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 9:26am@Larry Holmes / NOFX
While I would agree there is a big problem in the western church where “believers” go to church on Sunday & act like the world Monday-Saturday, we need to be careful in how we characterize the church (bride of Christ) and salvation.
Salvation is of God, not man – it is His work of alone (read Romans). There is nothing man can do – he is hopelessly lost without a savior (a substitute offering) before a Holy, Righteous, & Just, God. That is the point Paul makes when he declares: “O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? I thank God–through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.” (Romans 7:24-25).
No ‘acts of morality’ in your flesh will satisfy the Creator God. As it is written,” the Just shall Live by Faith” (Habakkuk 2:4). It is the Holy Spirit that gives the believer the power to live according to the Spirit. Without it, we are deceiving ourselves.
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Luke21
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 9:27am@Larry Holmes cont.
I cringed when I read:
“In order to become a follower of Jesus and be ‘saved’, that is, have your sins forgiven so you would be clean and able to enjoy the company of God the Father, you must try to live as righteously as you can”.
That path (self-righteousness) is the wide road that leads to destruction. It is the road the Pharisees were on.
Paul makes it clear in the first 3 chapters of Romans that all men, religious & carnal alike, are in the same predicament: Sinners from birth, enemies of the Living God. It is Gods righteousness that Christ reveals – and God imparts to the believer (Christ’s righteousness). Paul lays this out in Romans, Galatians, & Hebrews, as he declares Habakkuk 2:4 “the Just shall Live by Faith” (Romans 1:17, Galatians 3:11, Hebrews 10:38).
Man’s righteousness is like filthy rags (Isaiah 64:6). So you can try to “live as righteously as you can”, but in the end you will not attain to the righteousness of God.
Jesus was clear:
In order to be “saved” – receive eternal life – one must be born again (John 3:7 – 21). Which means to receive the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and believe it (stand on God’s promise). “ if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved… “ (Romans 10:9-10)
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Luke21
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 9:31am@Larry Holmes cont.
In order to be His disciple, you must forsake all you have (including family & your own life), bear your cross, and follow after Him (in His footsteps) – Luke 14. I submit there are few disciples among us – especially in the western cultures.
Moral living on the other hand – is a by-product of becoming like the god you worship. If you worship the world, you will be like it (cold, materialistic, self-righteous). If you worship Allah you will be like “him”. If you worship the God of the Bible, you will become more like Christ.
I’m sure you know this, however the way your statement read about living righteously to obtain salvation caused a stir in my Spirit that demanded a clarification so that others don’t come away with an incorrect conclusion. The Grace and Peace of the Lord Jesus Christ to you.
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brandie05bab
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 11:00am@Eastinfection… thanks for your immature comment. I’ll be here well past one day & just for that comment, I’ve updated my avatar with an actual pic of myself. Thanks!!
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L.B.Stephens
Posted on November 4, 2012 at 2:16pmLarry Holmes, Good comment!
Luke, Are you suggesting we all just stop trying to live righteously because we are imperfect, and that God does not expect us to be like his Son, holy?
Ephesians 1:4
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DeVain
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:29amBeing stoned to death is a powerful deterrent….
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ThemDemsLie2much
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:45amTaqiyya! Obama uses it all the time.
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Libermerican
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:49amYeah, it’s a given, after you’ve been raped…
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stumpy68
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:50amThats what i was thinking while reading this
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brandie05bab
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 12:08pmIf you’ve ever been cheated on by your spouse you’d understand. Marriage is not a game nor a joke. When you commit your life to someone & they betray you in the worst way, you’dl wish someone would stone them too, no matter what religion you are. Difference is, SOME muslim countries still do it, but it drastically cuts down on extramarital affairs & pre-marital sex. DRASTICALLY, not entirely. Nobody wants to be cheated on & no child should be born w/out both parents. Strong families build strong communities. It’s what modern cultures are lacking now days.
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coachsmac
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 12:45pmABSOLUTELY! Stoning would definitely weaken the libido, but isn’t it amazing that another study says Muslim religion is best? Give me a frigging break!!!
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Veteran Patriot
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 1:29pmGetting stoned applies only to the women because, in order for them to accuse the rapist they are required to bring multiple MALE witnesses to court. The muslim “good-ol’-boy” network takes care of that little irritation. So, as a result, “everybody knows” the woman is raped, possibly even gang raped. However, since the men are not going to accuse each other, the woman cannot bring suffcient male witnesses to defend her so they are immune from prosecution. Therefore, the woman gets stoned for allowing herself to be raped by these guys who ultimately have each others backs.
What’s wrong with this picture…?
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JRook
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 2:07pmPerhaps but the evangelicals stance that all sin, their sins will be forgiven, we intend to get married always provides pretty good rationalizations.
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GPS-Tech
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 2:52pmHey brandie, Do you denounce the terrorists acts of Hamas and Hezbollah and do you think Israel has a right to exist?
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Go Glenn
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 4:03pmI agree………stoning, honor killings, etc might have a small impact. LOL
Then of course, the fact that where Muslims have a majority influence, infidels leave for fear of their life (rightfully so) if they might become pregnant. If they disagree with the doctrine, they leave the religion and the community completely.
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JeffJ1985
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 4:10pmOne would think hell would be a deterrent too, but that’s not a nice word to say anymore.
For the Protestant portion of the world, we can lay this at the feet of Martin “I could commit murder and adultery thousands of times every day and not lose my salvation” Luther.
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brandie05bab
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 4:42pmummm… @GPS-Tech. I do not, in any way agree w/terrorism or extremism. But what does that have to do w/pre-marital sex? Nothing. I’ve been cheated on & I know how bad it hurts & how it breaks up families & leaves children w/out both parents inside the home.
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DNOLAN
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 6:01pmBrandie, my wife did cheat on me a few years into our marriage.
Was I angry? Yes.
Did I want her stoned? No.
Cultural difference.
Instead of bringing her to the town square and having the village stone her to death, we sat down, talked it out, and moved on stronger than ever.
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TheGrtDcptn
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:56pmbrandie05bab wrote…
‘If you’ve ever been cheated on by your spouse you’d understand. Marriage is not a game nor a joke. When you commit your life to someone & they betray you in the worst way, you’d wish someone would stone them too, no matter what religion you are. Difference is, SOME muslim countries still do it, but it drastically cuts down on extramarital affairs & pre-marital sex. DRASTICALLY, not entirely.
1. God is NOT a religion…
2. Thou shalt NOT kill
I would never condone the murder of someone, even for infidelity, what a horrible mindset to have.
We will all pay for our sins…one day…It is NOT man’s place to cast judgement, (murder) it is God’s.
God gave mankind Free Will, we have the choice to seek him, or deny him…He is not oppressive.
Christians don’t bow to a religion, they have a relationship with God…
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GPS-Tech
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 12:43am@Brandie
You answered my question with a question therefor avoiding it. Come on miss peace loving muslim give me a straight answer. Do you denounce hezbollah and hamas? Yes or no? Does Israel have the right to exist? Yes or no?
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brandie05bab
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 11:13am@thegrtdcptn…
Islam doesn’t have the 10 commandments, per se. But I’ll give you the english translation of what the Quran does say about killing & war:
(Quran 2: 190-192) “Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than killing; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, kill them. Such shall be the recompense of those who deny the truth. But if they cease, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”
Verse 190 and 191 lay down unequivocally that only self-defense (in the widest sense of the word) makes war permissible for Muslims. The defensive character of the fight is self-evident in the reference to “those who fight you”, or “those who wage war against you”, and has been still further clarified as follows:
“Permission [to fight] is given to those against whom war is being wrongfully waged and, verily, God has indeed the power to succor them (Muslims)”[succor = Assistance in time of difficulty] (Quran 22:39)
So please, don’t listen to what the media wants you to hear. It’s unfortunate that so many middle eastern countries have used Islam as a way to harm & mislead others, including their own.
Islam is not what the media makes it out to be.
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brandie05bab
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 11:22am@GPS-Tech.. my answer is NO!! I in no way condone the actions of extremists. They do not, in any way, live according to the actual teachings of Islam. They have made their own rules/laws & to me it’s crazy. Even my Somali husband & his entire family in somalia, yemen, kenya & australia ALL think it’s ridiculous & misrepresents Islam.
I absolutely do NOT think Israel needs to be wiped off the map. Islam doesn’t teach that. It’s culture that teaches this. Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) even married a jewish girl. People in Islam forget that or are taught wrong about it. Jews are “people of the book” and are capable of going to heaven according to the Quran & it’s teachings. Muslim men are able to marry muslimahs, christian women & even jewish women. It’s very disheartening what is going on in that part of the world, but it’s not taught to have hatred to jews in the quran.
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TheGrtDcptn
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 6:00pmbrandie05bab wrote…
‘So please, don’t listen to what the media wants you to hear.’
The media has nothing to do with my reply, it was your very own words…
‘When you commit your life to someone & they betray you in the worst way, you’d wish someone would stone them too, no matter what religion you are.’
And again, a portion of my reply…’I would never condone the murder of someone, even for infidelity, what a horrible mindset to have.’
Your words clearly come across as someone who is condoning the murder of an adulterer…
‘SOME muslim countries still do it, but it drastically cuts down on extramarital affairs & pre-marital sex. DRASTICALLY, not entirely.’
Simply put…Thou Shalt Not Kill…
I would never honor a ‘god’ who condones one sinner to murder another sinner…
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cableguy03
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:18amI sleep with a 9 year old and a christian i am a pedophile.I sleep with a 9 year old and a muslim i am a PROFETT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:40amThe word pre martial is ambiguous. Are we defining pre marital as when two people contract with the gov. for a piece of paper that states they are approved by the gov. to be married?
This is an absurd statistic as most people who FAIL would have asked God’s forgiveness so what is the issue? Their FAIL is covered by the blood of Christ.
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brandie05bab
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 12:10pmReally???? Prophet Mohammed (swt) NEVER ever had sex w/his wife Aisha. NEVER. They did not have children & they did not sleep together. He took her as a wife to protect her & care for her so that she was not homeless & on the streets. He also educated her beyond what most women are educated even now days. Please educate yourself before making inaccurate & ignorant comments.
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threedoor
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 1:56pmum, no he married Ashi when she was 6 and consumated when she was 9.
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DNOLAN
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 1:59pmWow Brandie, that would make you nearly 1k years old, to be able to quote with such conviction that he never once visited that tent and took that woman.
Seriously Brandie, grow up. He married a child, and he likely laid with her too.
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brandie05bab
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 4:46pmGrow up? Wow. When you learn your history & have read the actual Quran & have studied this faith & other cultures, you will see what I was talking about. Until then, I’ll just chuck this convo up to non-sense & assumption.
You guys have a nice day.
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DNOLAN
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 4:56pmBrandi you are assuming I am an American and that I have never read the Quran.
I am not American, and I studied the Quran for 7 years. I found it to be abrasive. I felt it read more like a soldiers instruction manual than a religious text. That however is just my opinion.
Your statement boils down to “if its not in the Quran, its not truth.” Fact is, you are making a statement that he took a wife, and never once slept with her. Does that sound possible or likely to you? Why would he take a wife, and not have at it, he would have faced no social, political, or religious negatives for having done so. Taking a 9 yr old wife was a norm in middle eastern sudo arabic cultures in the middle ages.
So, as stated above, either you are stating religious dogma, or you personally shared a tent with that child. Either way, I choose to go with stated fact, not your slightly shifted opinion.
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brandie05bab
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 5:09pmLook, neither of us lived in that time so in all actuality neither of us really know if he slept w/her or not. I don’t & neither do you. I have read more than just the Quran & it was by my own choice that I reverted from a devout catholic to a devout muslim. Everything I have read & been taught is that he did not consumate the marriage. His true love was his first wife & had she not fallen ill he would not have taken on another wife. You don’t have to believe, but I choose to.
So, really, can we just stop this nonsense? You believe what you believe & I’ll believe what I believe, as stated in the Quran.
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DNOLAN
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 5:31pmBut your original statement was one of fact, not believe or opinion.
You misrepresented what you said, and expect now that my point has been made, and that of several others, that we should just ignore it and pretend it didnt happen.
He married a child, he had relations with a child. I personally dont care about it either way, it was culturally acceptable then and I dont judge him for that. But, you are making opinion based posts here, and passing them off as facts.
Your opinion, one you are entitled to, is that all women under the nation of islam, with the exception of a few rare cases, are treated with respect, honor, integrity, and love, with equal standing to the men they marry.
My opinion, one support by the leadership of 14 separate Islamic nations and their laws, is that the nation of Islam see women as property, belonging to their husbands, not entitled to opinion or vote My posts are my opinions, but are backed up by Sharia Law, Egyptian Law, Pakistani Law. Need I go on.
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usedCZARsalesman
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:08amare you kidding me? Do you have brain damage? You do know that doesn’t really still happen and the wave of molestation that did happen DECADES ago was a direct result of the Catholic Church allowing GAYS into the priesthood right? You liberals are simply too stupid for words…
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:16amThere is also, in regards to Islam, the fact anyone caught in adultry is summarily executed. Cuts down on repeat offenses.
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usedCZARsalesman
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 5:52pmReally hate when comments I reply to get deleted :-(
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RANGER1965
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:02amIf premarital sex had the same punishment as first degree murder for the offender, and would cause the offender’s family to face public shame and permanent loss of status as it does in Muslim societies, I imagine you would see a pretty sharp drop here too.
No surprise at all.
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dhaynes
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:23amNot to mention they will stone you if you are caught.
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MN NICE
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:38amYeah… Wouldn’t take a lot of rocks to the side of the head to kill the mood… Unless you like it a little rough
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CoGod
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:01amWhen they run a pole like this, they ask the person their religious affiliation. 1) just because someone replies that they are Christian does not make it so. The percentage of practicing followers in the USA is much lower than reported. 2) Muslims lie all the time. The Qur’an instructs Muslims to lie to protect the theology of their pedophile “profit” Muhammad. Look at our president. He does not ever give a speech without a multitude of lies and distortion. Also, Muslims may not consider rape or same sex activities as sex before marriage as these things are not seen as sin to the faith of Satan.3) People generally lie to protect themselves. The numbers are likey much higher than stated in all groups.
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TelepromoterNChief
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:58amIntercourse with animals is acceptable behavior, but by all means, noeating bacon because that is just pure evil.
To me, bacon is proof that there is a living and loving God.
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EtchASketch
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:27amBestiality is also legal in Texas. Coincidence?
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brandie05bab
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 12:14pmWhat does intercourse w/animals have to do w/Islam? NOTHING!!!
Muslims (along w/many other religions such as Jewish & a lot of Christian faiths) don’t eat pork because pigs are a filthy animal. They roll in & eat their own ****! That’s disgusting.
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rosegrower
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 1:12pmBrandi
Actually, the reason that Jews don’t eat pigs is that the laws of kashrut forbid you from eating any animal that does not have cloven hooves and chew cud. Jews also don’t eat horse, venison or ‘possum.
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brandie05bab
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 1:36pmI do stand correct. I did, infact word it wrong. What I meant to write is that Muslims don’t eat for that reason & it is to be noted that Jews don’t eat it & neither do many Christian faiths, for their own reasons.
Thanks for pointing that out.
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DNOLAN
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 2:01pmBrandie you fail again!
Of course, no religion encourages sex with animals.
But, only the nations of Islam encourage the rape and abuse of prisoners. proof? In the 2nd world war, allied soldiers were warned to not let themselves be taken prisoner by the turks. Why? They routinely raped the PoWs. It was encouraged, allowed, and overlooked.
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brandie05bab
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 4:54pm@DNOLAN… are you being serious right now? Are you saying that Islam encourages this behavior? I didn’t fail, quite the opposite. If you ever studied Islam you would understand. Until then, please stop with all the nonsense about Islam. What individual people do, should never represent an entire religion. There’s varying degrees of faith in every religion & this type of thing happens everywhere.
God will give due punishment. That’s what will matter in the end.
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DNOLAN
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 5:15pmBut this wasn’t an individual. This was an entire armed force given permission to rape and torture prisoners of war. You make the assumption this was just a few soldiers acting on their own. But it wast, it was widespread.
You continue to spout that the quran is different to that. But its not. It preaches violence with a promise of reward in the after life for those that serve in Jihad. You also state this is not a part of normal culture. But it is, from the leadership down.
Lets name 5 Islamic nations:
Iraq – (In the name of Islam, tried to wage genocide against an entire nation of people)
Iran – (In the name of Islam, seeks to destroy an entire race of people)
Syria – (leadership is currently engaged in genocide against a non Islam faction within its border)
Pakistan – (Leadership Actively harbors and supports extremist terrorists)
Afghanistan – (Actively harbored and supported extremist terrorists)
Now, lets name a few more Nations of Islam:
Egypt – (is committing genocide against Christians within its borders, enforces lack of female rights, in the name of Islam)
Libya – (Actively harboring terrorists, under order of its newly formed Muslim brotherhood leadership)
Now lets do the same for christianity:
US – Passed laws envoking equal pay and rights for all citizens
UK – Passed laws envoking equal rights for all citizens
Canada – Passed Laws envoking equal rights for all citizens
No matter how you slice it, Christian based countries tend to
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nomorpc4me
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:57amI noticed they specified Muslims and Hindus living outside the U.S.
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Libermerican
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:52amI recall the 9-11 terrorists while here in the US hung out at the local strip clubs.
They probably had BLT sandwiches too…
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brandie05bab
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 12:22pmExactly!! There are various degrees of faith in EVERY SINGLE religion. Laws are harsh in other countries. Here, if a muslim has pre-marital sex or an affair, it’s just frowned upon, as it is in most other religions.
And yes, I heard about the strip-club thing from the terrorists. The thing to point out about that is, again different degrees of faith AND the fact that a good & righteous muslim would never even think about being an extremist or a terrorist. One cannot kill others in the name of Allah & call themselves a muslim. Humans are Allahs creations & should be respected as such. The extremists/terrorists are a cult & are not worthy of Islam. It’s a disgrace & some weak & poor individuals fall for the leaders of these cults for the money. It’s sad.
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00100111
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 2:00pmDo we now have a muslim Media Matters troll on here, also?
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ViewPointtt
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 2:46pm“One cannot kill others in the name of Allah & call themselves a muslim. Humans are Allahs creations & should be respected as such.”
The findings of a study conducted by The Center for the Study of Political Islam exposed that 61% (most) of the Quran mandates the persecution, demonization, denigration, subjugation, and slaughter of non-Muslims… 75% of Mohammad’s bio consists of Jihad waged on non-Muslims. The Center concluded; “This groundbreaking statistical evidence expose the absurdity of excusing the Quran-inspired terror on the so-called, “selective interpretation,” of the verses of the Muslim holy book being taken out of context… Scientific, statistical evidence also reveals that Islam is an intolerant religion that drives its followers towards violent conquest of non Muslims.”
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dimbulbz
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:56amSex is not exploited in these societies like it is in ours. I dont think its the Burka. But I will say that if I was a Muslim woman being asked the question as to wether I ever had sex before, what do you think I am going to say? My suspicion is the numbers are skewed.
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CoGod
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:13amYes. That’s where they don’t know what is behind the sheet the women wear to cover themselves. After two attempts revealing a donkey, a goat, and a camel, they give up unless it is a Bactrian Camel with two humps. Given the odds of the surprise under the sheet, they rape westerners instead (women and boys). Of course, that is not sex before marriage because their Imams say it is OK and their is no plan to marry their victims anyway. So much for the religion of peace.
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Jenny Lind
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:55amConsidering how women are carefully kept in servitude, it is no suprise. They have no life and are watched 24/7, that is not the same as choosing to be virginal at marriage. And of couse there is the problem of being killed if you aren’t. They have no choice, and God gives us the right to choose. I feel so sorry for the woman of Islam, they are our sisters and their lives are so sad, and their choices so limited. Every woman in America should be gratefull for their freedoms, and should and be gratefull to God to live in this country, we should show our appreciation to our Creator.
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brandie05bab
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 12:30pmWhy would you feel sorry for women-of-Islam? Have you personally met any? Have you become close to & been in the house of a Muslimah? There’s a difference between religion & culture. CULTURE is what suppressed women in Islam. Islam cherishes & protects women & in most cases gives women greater respect & freedoms. Muslim women are kind, caring, generous, humble, respected, humble & more.
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DNOLAN
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 1:56pmBrandie, when the country claims to be a nation of islam, and strictly adheres to the quran, the women are not equal, not entitled to education, responsible for being raped, expected to keep their entire body covered, and treated like a live in cleaning cooking sex slave.
Gotta love that respect.
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brandie05bab
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 4:57pm@DNOLAN… I think that until you know how muslim women in all muslim countries are treated & how they all feel, you really should speak on their behalf. Some cultures around the world are notorious for suppressing & abusing women. It’s a culture, NOT a religious thing.
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brandie05bab
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 5:14pm*you really should NOT speak on their behalf
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DNOLAN
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 6:07pmAnd what gives you right to stand up for them over me?
Neither of us have more experience than the other.
I vote we get the opinion of the young Pakistani girl that was shot in the head because she lobbied for the right of female education in a nation of Islam lead country.
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DNOLAN
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 6:28pmOh and for clarification:
I was raised in an extremely multicultural society. My childhood friends included several refugees from the middle east, and their kids.
Listening to how a mans wife from Afghanistan was killed by the father because she married without consent, gives me a little insight.
Or my friend, who was the product of a rape in Pakistan, whos mother fled the country to avoid being killed because she allowed herself to be raped.
Oh, then there’s the guy who asked me to read the Quran, also from Afghanistan. He was a freedom fighter as a young man, fighting against Russian invasion. He fought and bled for his country, only to come home and find his sister had been raped and murdered by other freedom fighters he knew. When he saw justice, he was arrested, spent several years in jail, and was eventually allowed to leave the country.
Lastly, my friend whos grandparents had moved to Israel back in the late 60s, had his mother, their settlement was in contested territory. When the Palestinians came to reclaim their land, they saw fit to rape his grandmother, his mother, and to scar his grandfather for life.
My aunt, who married a turk. He was so very sweet, until married. Then he raped her, beat her, and forced her to quit her job. Divorced now, TYG.
This vs your experience of : I met some nice muslim guy, he said all the right things, so I converted to marry him. But, we still live in Europe, and I dont really get to experience the full culture
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brandie05bab
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 11:36am@DNOLAN
“This vs your experience of : I met some nice muslim guy, he said all the right things, so I converted to marry him. But, we still live in Europe, and I dont really get to experience the full culture”
All your experiences are here-say. I have the right to speak about Islam & about the way it actually honors women, because I am a muslim woman. Your assumption is false.
I didn’t meet a nice muslim guy & convert. I don’t live in Europe. I was with an egyption/arab muslim man when I turned 18 in the USA. I learned his CULTURE from living with him for several years. He turned on me & beat me severly day-in & day-out. I could not work because I spent more time in the hospital than at home. Cracked ribs, broken nose, ripped out ****, black eyes, torn clothes, marks around my neck from being choked until I would pass out. This was what his father did to his mother & this was what he learned to do to me.
We lived next door to a cop that wouldn’t help me. I was severly beaten on the street & nobody helped me. My head was bashed into the side of a brick building & I was knocked out. Not 1 single person came to my side or even called for help. I eventually got the courage to call the cops & they did nothing. They arrested him, put him in the cop car & let his friend bail him out of the cop car. That’s when I had a broken nose & **** ripped out w/1 black eye & ripped clothes. That’s her in america.
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brandie05bab
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 11:47amAfter several years of recovery, counseling, & help, heavy drinking, etc, I was able to move on in my life & be a stronger person. I hated Islam. Wanted nothing to do with it. Part of my recovery, however, was to learn more about it. Which I did. I read & read & read & prayed (catholic) on it & it became clear to me. Islam didn’t teach this to my X. His culture & family taught this to him. After years of studying Islam, I made the sound choice to take Shahada on my own.
I’m not perfect & I learn more each & every day. But I know whats true & I know that Islam is my way. I THEN met a nice muslim man from Somalia. He’s been the best thing to happen to me. We married, and started our family. He’s kind, gentle, educated, peaceful, would NEVER hit or talk down to me. I have a rewarding career & recently went back to college (with his full support) to further my success. He owns his own business & I could not be happier. His mom is in Yemen & his father in AU. His family fled somalia from the wars & they are such beautiful people inside & out. They know the truth of Islam.
We started our family & I proudly sent my children to the only muslim school in our area. They learn the right way & that school is in the top 90% in the western united states. That’s great!!
I have many pakistani female friends that were born & raised there. They have nothing but good things to say & they are not oppressed. They are proud muslimahs & their husbands cheris
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brandie05bab
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 11:53am@DNOLAN
My point behind this is that I have lived both sides. I have lived a very horrific life w/an extremist & a beautiful life w/a typical muslim man who lives according to the teachings of the Prophet. I have learned through experience that culture has everything to do with how people treat each other. It doesn’t matter that I live in the US. I have gone through experiences that many pakistani & arab women go through. But it’s not the religion, it’s the culture. I had to learn that the hard way.
That’s why I can speak on behalf of so many muslimahs out there. Because I’ve been there.
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DNOLAN
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 1:38pmYou state Islam respects women, but then go on to fill us in on your muslim partner abusing you.
You do not have a right to speak for all Muslim women, you are a convert in the US, and if you wish to comment on the state of all Islam, I challenge you to go live in Egypt as a single woman for a couple years.
Lastly, you state my experiences are here-say, I put forward that your understanding of Islam, and your view of the Muslim world is much the same. You have not experienced the truth and have no right to speak for all.
Fact is, you have argued that Islam respects women, that they worship their women, then provide proof to counteract that with your own life experiences, then presume to inform the rest of the world that other women married to men of your faith actually have a completely different and much more friendly experience.
That logic is so broken its unreal.
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brandie05bab
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:55pm“You state Islam respects women, but then go on to fill us in on your muslim partner abusing you.”
NOT TRUE. You misunderstood me. I was filling you in about that to show that my x was an Egyptian/Arab muslim & his CULTURE taught him that it’s ok to abuse women. My Somali muslim husband was taught by his culture to respect women. Do you not see?
“You do not have a right to speak for all Muslim women, you are a convert in the USA..”
Being a convert in the USA really doesn’t matter when we are talking about what Islam teaches. Islam teaches respect for women. Other countries & their culture, for whatever reason, teach the opposite. You are mixing the two. I am speaking of the religion itself.
“Lastly, you state my experiences are here-say… You have not experienced the truth and have no right to speak for all.
Fact is, you have argued that Islam respects women, that they worship their women, then provide proof to counteract that with your own life experiences, then presume to inform the rest of the world that other women married to men of your faith actually have a completely different and much more friendly experience.”
You have stories from your friends. I lived the negative aspect from an Egyptian man.
You stated that in Egypt women are treated bad, previously. = CULTURE.
My Somali husband was taught better in his CULTURE.
I have life experience, you have stories. I love Islam, reverted on my own (as a single woman).
You are clea
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DNOLAN
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:54pmBrandie, you are splitting hairs and trying to separate culture from religion.
In most western cultures, where there is a distinct separation from state and religion, you are correct.
In most middle eastern countries, where no separation exists, you cannot make claim that Islam is in no way to blame. When the country is a stated nation of Islam, follows Sharia Law, and openly punishes all who fail to follow the Quran, you are clearly using the religion of Islam as the core for both your culture and your government.
My stories are from my friends, sure that’s true, but it doesn’t make them any less valid than the evidence you provide, especially under Sharia law, where your evidence is worth only half the testimony of that coming from a male. You state that culture alone is to blame and religion plays no part.
I call BS on that.
If a country proclaims to be a nation of Islam, and has been under the guidance of Islam leaders for several hundred years, then Islam is to blame for the culture that now exists there. End of story.
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 4:44pmSounds a little like “Stockholm Syndrome” to me…
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brandie05bab
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 5:20pmStockholm Syndrome?! wow. So you mean to tell me that somewhere between 1.5-2.2 BILLION people (muslim population worldwide) have Stockholm Syndrome? Islam is the fastest growing religion worldwide. If it were really that bad like some ppl label it, that just wouldn’t be the case.
That’s my last comment on this matter.
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DNOLAN
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 5:37pmFastest growing because muslim dominant nations require you convert to islam to marry a muslim, and at the same time hunt and kill those of other faiths, as is the case in Egypt right now?
Stockholm Syndrome comment was aimed at you, it refers to when a person is taken hostage, and after spending several hours / days with the kidnapper, they begin to identify with and support them.
ie, after years of abuse at the hands of a Muslim man spouting muslim beliefs at you, you made the choice to ignore your own treatment at the hands of a muslim man and cry foul any who speak foul of the nation of Islam, and the treatment of its women.
Its actually kinda fitting.
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brandie05bab
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 6:18pmOh boy. Stockholm syndrome?!? no. You’re so wrong. I really feel bad for you. You are ignorant & like to assume you know everything about everybody.
And for the record, my husband is 36 yrs old, been in the US for only 8 yrs. He was not raised here. He fought in the war, was shot in the leg, and has lived that life. He has respect for his mother, his sisters, for me & all women. So do his brothers & his father, his cousins, etc.
And guess what, people don’t only move for religion or harms sake. People move for $$, because of wars, for family, for better opportunity & education. Have you thought of that? That’s the MAIN reason my dear friends’ moved here. You are so ignorant.
Crime happens everywhere. EVERYWHERE!!! murders, rapes, thefts, corruption, and so much more. Homosexuality, beatings, I could go on. Here in our own backyards it’s happening. A group of ignorant people in other countries do it in the name of Allah. That’s the difference.
You are NOT muslim & therefore should not be talking as though you know Islam, period. You don’t know anything about Islam except for what you see in the media & the polls you get online. YOU ARE NOT MUSLIM. why are you speaking as though you know what it teaches & how muslim women live? I give up talking to you. You are very judgmental & close minded. All I can do is shake my head.
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 7:41pmBRANDIE……
DNOLAN deduced correctly..
I was referring to your “whoa is me” bio….. not Muslims…
but, please, don’t let me interrupt… You were in the middle of angrily judging people while chastising them for being judgmental…. Proceed with your hypocrisy.
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DNOLAN
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 11:49pmSo when I said your husband was born and raised in a western influenced nation, and left before it became lead by a radical Islamic movement, I was wrong? But, you just said thats what happened.
Obviously also rape and violent crime happens everywhere. The difference is the law behind it. In the US, the rapist is to blame, under Sharia law the woman is to blame. In the US, the government prosecutes violent crime, under sharia law the government ignores it when its perpetrated against women and homosexuals. You are claiming that the nations of Islam that do this in their name of their faith are the exceptional few, and that is also a representational.
Of the 51 predominantly Muslim nations, 43 are in the top 50 for bad human rights records. So, as I have stated here, multiple times, you are misrepresenting the facts, and are not in a position to speak for the average Muslim female. Period.
As stated multiple times, I spent 7 years reading the Quran. Just because I refuse to use it to justify my argument, does not mean I do not understand its meaning. Using a religious text to argue against real world factual data is pointless.
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HollyRye
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:54am“The burqa really works,” Best quote ever! lol
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tiki886
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:49amThey discovered that paper bags are not as effective.
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Konservative PUNK
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:53amC3-PO: “Nobody worries about upsetting a droid.”
Han Solo: “That’s ’cause droids don’t pull people’s arms out of their sockets when they lose. Wookiees are known to do that.”
Chewbacca: “Grrf.”
C3-PO: “I see your point, sir. I suggest a new strategy, R2 let the Wookiee win.”
Replace ‘Droid’ with Christian.
Replace ‘Wookie” with Muslim.
This gives a pretty good idea of why Christians are lax about sin where Muslims are not.
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The_Jerk
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:49amWho cares? Why waste time on this nonsense?
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Mr.Fitnah
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:48amNo this is not a surprise.
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thibx
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:48amsex or stoned to death. choose your choice.
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Eastinfection
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 4:39pmI prefer having sex AFTER i get stoned.
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term limits for congress
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:47amWe obviously need more Planned Parenthoods and free contraceptives in the muslim and hindu areas. Where are N.O.W., Code Pink, and Sandra Fluck? The health of these women is being seriously neglected!!! I bet they all need a breast exam.
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brandie05bab
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 12:33pmHmmm…. muslim women take care of their health. Just because they CHOOSE to have sex w/one person in their life doesn’t make them bad, unhealthy, wrong, immoral. It’s respectful. It’s not against Islam to use birth control, either. Just fyi.
But notice how this article is about men AND women.
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DNOLAN
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:55pmHe was being flippant, and implying the higher rate of pre-marital sex in the west is due largely to its support from government in the form of free contraception, free health checks, and free sex ed at the age of 10.
Fact is, hes right. Back in the 50s, pre marital sex was far less common, because contraceptive was harder to come by and both parties were well informed of the negative consequences to their actions.
Today we are taught:
Don’t worry, we got the morning after pill! Oh, and if you forget that, don’t worry, we will give you a free abortion!
That is a change in western culture that I do not agree to. I am 29, I was a virgin until I met and married my wife at 22, she was a virgin too. Why? Because we were both raised in and around church.
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inchbyinch
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:47amCould have something to do with Sharia Law and the fact you would be murdered. The little things that stop us from sin.
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Travers
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:46amWell, first: you will be stoned if you do have premarital sex.
second: men have sex with little boys, I guess they don’t consider that premarital sex, because the men do not get stoned to death.
This “Religion” if you label it that way, is EVI!!. What other religion in creation, commands you to have jihad on the infidels and gives you permission and rewards you if kill them??
Here is another story to homongonize and elevate Islam..
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DetritusScreener
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:45amIs this a joke? Any soldier who has been to Afghanistan knows that they r@pe little boys until the girls are old enough.
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TelepromoterNChief
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:56amYes, but it’s not “sex” unless they say it is.
Man Love Thursdays are not applicable to the laws.
2+2=5 or something like that.
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txannie
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:44amThis doesn’t surprise me. When the penalty is death it’s easy to just say no. duhh….
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malleus-maleficarum
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:43amPrematital is also basically the same as pre-teen in those countries too..
So it’s not the same age pool. Plus are they counting all the guy on guy going on 6 out of 7 days of the week over there? Doubtful…
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rpp
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:42amUbiquitous sexual and porn images in the West are the principal reason for this. That and the ready availability of contraceptives. Proof that both pron and contraceptives are bad for society.
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magadog
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:40amI nominate Pelosi and Wasserman-Schultz for Burquas…a humane gesture for America (…someone get PETA on that please…).
Then again, they probably do not have a problem with extra, intra or any other ‘tra sexual activity…never mind.
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RaydocX
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:46amHahaha, thanks for making me laugh this morning.
If your parents or other family are ALWAYS around when you’re with the other sex, and/ or if you are wearing clothes that keep your appearance concealed from the hormone addled eyes of a young man, it’s no wonder there’s less pre-marital sex… and no wonder it’s seemingly so easy to coerce young men into even wanting to have to deal with 72 virgins (shudder)
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Mobuy
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:39amI wonder if these researchers considered the impact of honor killings. After all, I wouldn’t have premarital sex if my father/brother/uncle would kill me for it! It’s not the burqa, it’s the culture of believing a woman’s body is not hers, it’s her male relatives’.
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colascguy
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:50amMy thoughts exactly. Christianity is a religion of forgiveness that does stone people people to death. It makes sense to me that a Muslim women in the developing world would not engage in per-marital sex. Not only that but if you get married off at 12 are you really thinking about sex even after you are married.
Just sayin
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clayrunnels
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 3:56pm…or the culture of “honor killings”?
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majahn
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:37amWell, I guess when you’re stoned to death, that really puts a damper on premarital sex.
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biohazard23
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:42amYeah, that would kinda kill the mood alright.
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jungle J
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 10:43amoutstanding reply.
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Idahodawn
Posted on October 31, 2012 at 11:04amExactly!
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The_Pointy_End
Posted on November 1, 2012 at 12:11amAlso would not allow you to be around to take the survey! This would skew the survey results.
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