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Judge Rules That It’s OK for Feds to Install Security Cameras on Larger Private Properties Without Warrants

Nov. 1, 2012 2:19pm
Wisc. Judge Rules Warrant Not Needed to Install Camera on Property Because It Wasnt Filming the House

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A Wisconsin court has upheld authorities installing video surveillance equipment on a 22-acre property without a warrant, which ultimately led to evidence tying two men to illegal marijuana farming.

CNET reported earlier this week that U.S. District Judge William Griesbach found it reasonable for the Drug Enforcement Administration to install ”covert digital surveillance cameras” on the land without a warrant. Griesbach sided with U.S. Magistrate Judge William Callahan that the defendant’s motion to suppress evidence be denied because the cameras did not record footage of the property’s residence or curtilage, which is the property just around the home.

Marco Magana and Manuel Mendoza were charged with several drug crimes after the camera footage helped authorities gain evidence that more than 1,000 marijuana plants being grown. CNET reported that if found guilty, the pair could face life in prison and up to $10 million in fines.

In July of this year, officers entered the property, outside the curtilage, saw marijuana plants growing and installed cameras. Callahan’s recommendation records that a few days after this, a warrant was obtained to authorize the installation of the cameras.

Motions were filed that evidence from the video footage should not be presented in a trial, because the defendants believe under the Fourth Amendment authorization from the court would need to have come before the cameras were installed. Callahan wrote that the area under surveillance though is not protected under the Fourth Amendment, basing his argument using a 1984 ruling that found “open fields” were not protected. He continued writing that a court case decided upon earlier this year — United States v. Jones where it was ruled tracking vehicles with a GPS device required a warrant — reaffirmed open fields wouldn’t require a warrant.

“Magana and Mendoza urge the court to suppress because the locked gate, the alleged ‘No Trespassing’ signs, and the fact that the Property is heavily wooded could lead to a subjective expectation of privacy,” Callahan wrote. “In Oliver, however, the Court rejected this same argument, reasoning that, under a case-by-case approach, ‘police officers would have to guess before every search whether landowners had erected fences sufficiently high, posted a sufficient number of warning signs, or located contraband in an area sufficiently secluded to establish a right of privacy.’”

The judge stated that since it would be legal for a police officer to enter the property and collect evidence, it is therefore legal to install cameras because “the Supreme Court has upheld the use of technology as a substitute for ordinary police surveillance” before.

Timothy Lee for Ars Technica writes some of his concerns over this ruling:

But this illustrates the absurdity of automatically allowing the police to automate any surveillance activities they’re allowed to do manually. In arguments over warrantless GPS surveillance, for example, the government has insisted that installing a tracking device on a suspect’s car is no different than having an officer manually follow the car, an activity that has always been permitted by the Fourth Amendment.

But the police only have the resources to tail a small number of suspects at any one time, and a suspect is likely to notice a car following him 24/7. So allowing the installation of GPS tracking devices dramatically increases the government’s practical spying powers even if the formal law hasn’t changed. And that, in turn, can diminish the privacy protections that are the whole point of the Fourth Amendment.

It is also noted in Callahan’s recommendation that the record does not indicate whether the property was leased by the men or not. The magistrate judge did not feel this point needed to be addressed further to deny the defendants’ motions, because there were other grounds on which he believed it could be dismissed.

CNET reports that a jury trial for the case is slated for January 22.

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  • christianUSA
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:14pm

    Here a idea citizen vote approval 67% for US supreme court and 55% vote power to impeach if we feel they over stepped basic rights.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:24pm

      “A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”

      – Thomas Jefferson

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    • desertspeaks
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 4:10pm

      Mr Orwell, your coffee is ready.. it’s nearly time to bring these so called judges to task, THIS IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL PERIOD! this is an heinous interpretation of the law and an egregious crime by tptb.
      The government is fomenting revolution, knowingling or unknowingly. Any student of history will tell you, this will not end well for either side.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 4:20pm

      “The judiciary of the United States is the subtle corps of sappers and miners constantly working under ground to undermine the foundations of our confederated fabric. They are construing our constitution from a co-ordination of a general and special government to a general and supreme one alone.”
      – Thomas Jefferson

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    • Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 4:31pm

      This is why the system is broke. Judges are no longer moral pro republic. Many judges should be voted out or arrested for treason and tried. Words will not work. Talk will not work. It’s time for a revolution.
      Even the minority under the constitution has the right to seek a new gov.. We love our Country but hate our marxist gov..

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 4:36pm

      ” A democracy is nothing more than 3 foxes and a chicken deciding what’s for dinner.”

      - Not sure who this is attributed to

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    • goahead.makemyday
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 4:50pm

      Squid Ben Franklin said
      Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on lunch. Freedom is a well armed sheep.

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 4:54pm

      @GOAHEAD

      Thanks. I think Milton Friedman is responsible for that bastardized version of it but I’m not sure.

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    • Rampart
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 7:22pm

      Those cameras make fantastic targets…

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    • M1A2_Tanker
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 9:09pm

      If you suspect you have these on your land….Step One: Take out your cell-phone camera or camcorder at night you will be able to see the infrared led’s with the camera. Step Two: Turn them into targets with your favorite firearm. Don’t let the State Steal your freedom!!!!!!!

      I WILL NOT COMPLY!

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    • christianUSA
      Posted on November 2, 2012 at 11:37am

      Opinion Clearly a vote 67% would never work and yes in secular world democracy leads to tyranny; but also historicly very few fed judges or US supreme court have ever been impeached far fewer removed and congress therefore has rarely done its Duty to impeach judicial branch but not removed and not as protection of citizens rights, even when decisions have been grossly UnConstitutional based on No know legislated laws, Therefore this check or system of checks has not worked; instead conservative try to change thing by voting in conservative presidents and congress but that history bring US to today and has been failure; continuing the same in vain hopes of difference is insane. Congress makes a bad and political court also federal courts are extremely costly leaving poor zero protection and they act far to long after the fact so changes is needed for our rights protections and minority or Christian rights.

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    • SocialistSlayer
      Posted on November 2, 2012 at 6:13pm

      Welcome to Amerika Comrade !

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    • Jedi41
      Posted on November 3, 2012 at 10:22am

      “I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There’s a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts.” Ronald Regan

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    • OneCitizenOfTheRepublic
      Posted on November 3, 2012 at 11:36am

      Sorry, but our justice system is out of control, unwilling to rule on the law, rather they choose to rewrite it, and interpret it beyond it’s intent. Justices can AND SHOULD be removed for BAD BEHAVIOR

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    • FesteAinoriba
      Posted on November 3, 2012 at 11:50am

      Time to get an electronics ‘sniffer’ and confiscate any property the government has abandoned in place on your property. Does this also mean that private citizens can install surveillance equipment in public places?

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    • Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
      Posted on November 4, 2012 at 8:59am

      5% of the people, 15+ million people are more than enough to take back the Republic. In fact 1% would be enough. Your freedom does not depend how someone votes. You were born free under the Constitution. 15+ or just 3+ million people with side arms demanding change is enough to change America. When are people going to stand up take to the streets, refuse this crap, and demand leaders to be accountable to the Republic? It’s time to organize not bug out.

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  • term limits for congress
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:08pm

    I can’t take video of the cops, but they can video of me. Perfect.

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    • Cavallo
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:25pm

      Welcome to Oceania… make sure you are versed in Newspeak.

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      Cavallo  
    • pitboss711
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 4:29pm

      Sounds to me like there’s going to be a lot of money spent on vanishing and damaged surveillance cameras.

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    • texashuntre
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 5:56pm

      PIT That is what I am thinking. Good shooting practice from 300 ^ yards. BULLSEYE !

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    • TheBigKahuna
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 6:05pm

      actually, it is worse than that. we can’t video police on public property, but they can video us, without a warrant, on our private property.

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    • 226crimsontrace
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 6:54pm

      I wish someone would place fancy targets on my property

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    • Despiser25
      Posted on November 3, 2012 at 9:47pm

      What do Lawyers do when they grow? Contribute to a Politicians campaign to become a Judge.

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  • christianUSA
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:04pm

    Opinion problems with case law and judicial legislation activism instead of actual law and limit government Bound and boundaries set to protect US. This is about big brother control and might by police and military power hiding under excuse of lazy over worker under manned police and judges not about real protection. If as they say criminals were transporting it off why no warrant? So now the cameras can be on our properties X feet close to home so soon closer closer then what body heat vision at 10 feet then what can listen in on cellphones or TV cable box or computer or internet in house, oh sorry those maybe done now, or judgeless warrants, oh sorry that maybe done now; Hey what Privacy do we have? And Why do we have to ask judges? Seeing less and less difference from kgb.

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    • WarMunger_Al
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:12pm

      So, trespassing is legal for the feds. Nice of the court to blow off the constitution. Of course if the property owner were to detect the intrusion and shoot the trespasser…..

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:41pm

      The Corrupt American Bar Association brought forth Uniform Commercial Code in 1938.

      This is because the ABA is run behind closed doors by the Global Elite.

      They acquired the U.S. In 1933 due to the Bankruptcy (holiday banking act).

      Before that time one must have had a plaintiff or victim to be charged with a crime.
      Now, one can be fined and jailed for improperly pruning thier hedges.

      I for one, have had enough and I am ready to step it up in this Info war.

      Once My book is published, I am going to start a Media Outlet with a pledge to never sell out.

      I may start a Newspaper in the Tampa Bay Area to compete with the Liberal Biased competitors.

      My paper will be impartial to democrats and republicans.

      People need to start their own media outlets. You don’t need a press pass to report the news, only to access certain events.

      I bet the Press Pass was established after 1913 or 1933. Any bets ????

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    • 2ndrevolution
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 6:15pm

      These cameras will be good targets to sharpen one’s aim.

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  • demsrtraitors
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:58pm

    When police officers, judges and politicians don’t follow the laws then there are NO LAWS.

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    • Cavallo
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:24pm

      Just those with guns, that claim the “law”. Isn’t wonderful to live in such a “free” country. Shhhh bury you head in the sand, stick your fingers in your ears, close your eyes, and scream in an echo chamber “We are free, get out if you don’t like it.” Maybe delusions can make one happy.

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  • RLM
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:57pm

    They didn’t grow that. Somebody else did!

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  • momrules
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:54pm

    What the authorities (government) does to gather information on a criminal they will eventually do to the law abiding citizen.

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    • GENEPAGLIARI
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:09pm

      Oh so true.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 7:36pm

      And what constitutes a law abiding citizen is weighed on the changing political tide. Our founding fathers grew hemp and would you dare call them criminals? What is criminal is the war on drugs. Or any war on something other than a nation that has directly attacked our sovereign soil.

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  • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:52pm

    Cut YOUR tree down. Problem solved.

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    • demsrtraitors
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:56pm

      nice idea, however many towns and city counsels that are run by traitorous liberals and gimmedats require you get approval from them before you cut any tree down.

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    • WarMunger_Al
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:15pm

      Let guard dogs roam the property. It was posted no trespass..they should have enforced their own borders and shot the violators.

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    • geomann
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:38pm

      OK then, just come from the other side of the tree, take down the camera, and sell it at the flea market. Trash the transmitter, it probably has a GPS in it.

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    • Cavallo
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 4:07pm

      @War, The cops shoot pets on a regular basis, oft times for fun, and while on the property of a law abiding citizen. The last part of your statement means they would likely dispatch a SWAT team and you’d likely die “resisting arrest”.

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      Cavallo  
    • WATER-THE-TREE
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 5:43pm

      GEOMANN
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:38pm
      OK then, just come from the other side of the tree, take down the camera, and sell it at the flea market. Trash the transmitter, it probably has a GPS in it.

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      WATER-THE-TREE  
  • afishfarted
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:51pm

    This is just one more step to removing any privacy the Constitution protects. I don’t see anywhere in the constitution that says if you own land but don’t build on it, your rights are not protected.
    and you know the US supreme court will hear this case and affim the ruling. A few years ago, the court determined a local governing body can take your property using eminent domain to increase revenues.
    Yup, it’s about time we start electing supreme court judges who actually understand the Constitution

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    • taxpro4u03
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 4:24pm

      The REPUBLIC’s 4th Amendment REQUIRES a jury to ‘determine fair value’ for ‘seized’ property – Juries — ALL JURIES have the power to nullify — a natural American who knows in which capacity to ACT, (or not act, as the case may be) holds all the cards — so long as he/she is not trespassing on the ‘rights’ of the State – (CRIMEs against property or PERSONS – ‘agents’ are PROPERTY/subjects of the State — i.e. debt slaves –) – Do not misunderstand the fact that there are two co-existing constitutions… Here, court of COMPETENT jurisdiction is relevant. Know which jurisdiction you ‘may’ be faced with, and how to properly and appropriately apply rebuttals. If everything one does/doesn’t do is based on ‘law,’ WHY isn’t ‘law’ taught (indoctrinated) in the publik skools for the first 12 years, same as ‘Engrish?’ Due Diligence is an individual responsibility…. “git er done…”

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:50pm

    First Plank: Abolition of property in land and the application of all rents of land to public purposes. (Zoning – Model ordinances proposed by Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover widely adopted. Supreme Court ruled “zoning” to be “constitutional” in 1921. Private owners of property required to get permission from government relative to the use of their property. Federally owned lands are leased for grazing, mining, timber usages, the fees being paid into the U.S. Treasury.)

    That’s just one of the ten planks and we have attained the other nine and this anti-American judge’s illegal ruling strengthens my claim that we have no private property rights.

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    • Cavallo
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:05pm

      Just try not paying the rent you owe (property taxes) to the thugs at city hall. Not only will they come and take your property, they’ll do it with force and if you don’t like it, they’ll just shoot you. Remember to thank a vet for your lol freedoms.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:14pm

      All of this Progressive crap came to America when they seized a stonghold on our Government
      after the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. That is when federal Income tax began In America.

      We are coming up to the 100 year anniversary of the International Banksters owning this Country.

      I say 100 years was 100 years too much. End the FED !!!!!!

      People ask me how to save our Country.

      It is simple.

      We demand our government print it’s own money based on silver or some other precious limited resource.
      This will mean that we no longer have to BORROW with INTEREST !!!!!!!!!

      We also get rid of Credit Cards.

      The men that are destroying our Country make a majority of their money through Interest !!!!!

      Small percentages of billions of transactions equate to Trillions in dollars down the road.

      Cut off the Lifeline to these International; Banksters !!!!!

      Here is a quote from an Intelligent man:
      “But here is the point: If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill. The element that makes the bond good makes the bill good. The difference between the bond and the bill is that the bond lets the money brokers collect twice the amount of the bond and an additional 20 per cent, whereas the currency pays nobody but those who directly contribute to Muscle Shoals in some useful way.”
      - Thomas Edison

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    • WarMunger_Al
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:17pm

      You are only as free as you are willing to use force against an oppressor. It is not a right if you have to ask permission.

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    • QuincySmith
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:28pm

      Interesting post, Slayer. Do you have a link/reference to the First Plank?

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:54pm

      @Quincy I found this one http://www.criminalgovernment.com/docs/planks.html
      This one as well http://www.laissez-fairerepublic.com/TenPlanks.html

      Both sites list all ten planks and how they’re implemented in modern America.

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    • QuincySmith
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 5:47pm

      Thank you!

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  • Jedrin
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:43pm

    And is it OK to put up cameras outside police stations to see the comings and goings of the Pigs? In court the pigs don’t give names or addresses but I have to. So the pigs are protected and I am not.

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    • WarMunger_Al
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:21pm

      That would be a good idea to test this case. Anybody with some wireless cameras willing to push the envelope a bit should do this. Start a website to post the surveillance footage. That is a great idea.

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  • NavyVetGreg
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:43pm

    The jury on this case needs some serious education in nullification.

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    • Docrow
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:48pm

      yup

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    • Cavallo
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:29pm

      Nullification doesn’t restore your right to security in your person and effects. Just lets the accused walk free. At most it would annoy the cops and the prosecutor. The law itself still does not protect you, including the supreme law of the land.

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  • Popp40
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:39pm

    Just look at them as targets to shoot on your property.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:57pm

      Wouldn’t the cameras become your property, after they were installed on YOUR property?
      If so, then they are yours to do with as you please, one would think. A little spray paint might help.

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    • Cavallo
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:08pm

      Nope, they would charge you with destruction of government property. Remember that you don’t own the land, you rent it from the government. Did you shake a hand of a soldier for making sure you are secure in your property and personal effects?

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    • WarMunger_Al
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:24pm

      Just redirect the feed and use them to watch your perimeter, or relocate them.

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    • Cavallo
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:32pm

      They’d charge you with theft of government property, or tampering or damaging government property (assuming they can prove it to be you).

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    • Al J Zira
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:36pm

      Cavallo: What is it with you dragging soldiers into this as if they have something to so with this ruling or are part of the problem? If you’re trying to be sarcastic fund another way to do it, your method so far sucks.

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    • Cavallo
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:56pm

      Did I hurt your feelings? Tough. Brave men and women are dying overseas for nothing. Not for freedom, not for liberty. To thank them for their services to a country that enslaves you is moronic, patronizing, and ultimately a lie. The fruitless, futility of their sacrifices should anger you (the general you not you specifically) , but it doesn’t. You’ll still wave a flag, and lie to them. You are not free, no aspect of your life is not governed in some way by a federal authority quite willing to murder you for non compliance. If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend in a delusion that they are defending you, go ahead. There is bliss in ignorance and delusion.

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    • Brejamin
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 8:34pm

      Cavallo

      I am a soldier and a veteran of two wars and I want you to know that your point is an excellent one. I can’t speak for others but your opinion is a refreshing and enlightened one. Not that you probably care but you most certainly didn’t offend me. It’s people like you that I would fight for if ever given the chance.

      Oh an I work on drones and all of the soldiers I know would NEVER allow the use of these on citizens but I will say the lazy cops that think they have authority over us are chomping at the bit to use this stuff and in 2015 the FAA plans on allowing the police to use small drones against private citizens. Which is a dangerous step in the direction we all fear.

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  • Micmac
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:38pm

    The utopian chain being rapped around us is built 1 small link at a time. One interpretation begets another ad infititum, until the chain is final. It’s simple for a liberal judge to move the laws one link closer. And with this Supreme Court, when Justice Roberts approves NoBamaCAIR because his wife wants it, proves that our justice system has been corrupted and needs a fixin’.

    NoBama > MoBama

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    • JRook
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:45pm

      Right as though the Obamacare reference deflects the imposition of most of the non-warrant type behavior as being driven by conservative republicans. I give you the Patriot Act. There is no doubt that the police should require a warrant to even enter the property. Private property doesn’t just reference the dwelling. The fundamental issue here is probable cause, which when time permits should be validated by a judge.

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  • AxelPhantom
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:37pm

    We are all living on a shrinking island of rights, soon the water will be up to our necks and we will be helpless to stop it.

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  • Oneirishman
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:37pm

    You didn’t grow that.

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  • mcsledge
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:36pm

    Don’t look now, but property rights are meaning less and less every day. This judge failed to uphold the Constitution. He is now an enemy to the Constitution and a disgrace to what America stands for.

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  • jungle J
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:35pm

    They did this to ensure it would go to court so that the progressives could ultimately have drones used against the good people of society while the predators run wild….only the very stupid or mentally ill can’t see what is going on. Think outside the plastic bag you live in ..your brain is dying.

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    • JRook
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:55pm

      Spare me with the progressive reference. It was conservative republicans who put through the Patriot Act. Interesting to note that bankers who commit fraud against the whole world in terms of fixing the LIBOR rate get a slap on the wrist and a fine that represents 1% of what they made manipulating the market. But 1,000 plants get you life in prison and $millions in fines. And you think the bank bailout was not a case of large corporations and the wealthy owning this country. We have the best politicians money can buy on both sides of the isle. And it is the wealthy and the large corporations that can afford to buy them and own them. So perhaps most here should take a step back and stop worrying about the ideological parlor games the wealthy distract the masses with while the federal government continues to be a vehicle to move wealth from the middle class to the wealthy. Seriously, wake up people. You think 401Ks were devised to help the middle class. All they did was flood the market with money and send PE rations from 5-6 to 10+. It does nothing more than allow companies to raise cheap money through equity and inflates stock prices for the insiders.

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    • yheitman
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:02pm

      You’re exactly right! As soon as I read this I thought this ruling is just opening the door so that drones can spy on Americans. This is out of control. Obviously they knew they needed to get a warrant or why get one after the fact. Judges like this need to be thrown off the bench as our rights are fast being eroded. If we had a Supreme Court that wasn’t so partisan, let alone with a backbone, this case would be thrown out.

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:33pm

    Private property! You think you have private property rights in this country? Lmao Dream on people and this ruling is just another example.If the feds suspect illegal activity get a warrant,oh what am I thinking relying on the constitution,who needs the constitution when we have fascists on the bench like this.

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    • tonypro
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:39pm

      Welcome to the ongoing police state.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:39pm

      Hugh Hefner has a large estate. Video surveillance with public access might be acceptable in some cases. :-)

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    • bertr
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:43pm

      Its bad enough when we throw away freedom over ‘national security’ issues, but not we’re kicking freedom out the door over weed

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    • NavyVetGreg
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:45pm

      Jury nullificaion is in order here.

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    • Cavallo
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:15pm

      Selling pot might be the only way to make a living in a few years if this economy keeps headed the way it is.

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  • Dont-hate-on-me-2
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:32pm

    If I find cameras on my property I’m pionting them at the idiots in the house next to me plug it into my T.V and grab popcorn and watch the show.

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  • Zer0
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:30pm

    Of course it’s a Wisconsin court. Progressives are fascists.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:30pm

    We have no more freedoms left under Obama.

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    • Despiser25
      Posted on November 3, 2012 at 9:48pm

      While I completely agree with you the GOP isnt much better and is in serious need of a house cleaning.

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  • NeverFalterNeverQuit
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:27pm

    This is outrageous. This ought to be appealed until it is overturned.

    What if the two druggies had found the cameras and destroyed them? Would they have been charged with destruction of government property?

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  • coyote1hell
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:27pm

    The Buh’rack Hussein obama, Pinko minions, are out to controll you, like the Russians do…

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  • justangry
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:26pm

    If he were a decent judge he’d say the DEA were unconstitutional.

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    • riseandshine
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 4:18pm

      Amen to that.

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    • Eastinfection
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 7:26pm

      i wish…

      but, unfortunately it’s only going to get worse. Eventually they will have flying cameras the size of insects that can be controlled remotely to look in your windows, etc….

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  • TSUNAMI_22
    Posted on November 1, 2012 at 2:22pm

    And we’ll tear them down.

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    • Al J Zira
      Posted on November 1, 2012 at 3:45pm

      We’re not going to tear anything down. No one has the organization, money or balls to start going after the people and government institutions that need to be torn down in this country. EPA is the best start,then the FED, the NEA. All great places to start but until you have a congress that isn’t corrupt, forget it.

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