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Paul Ryan: Obama’s ‘Dangerous Path’ for America Threatens the Nation’s ‘Judeo-Christian Values’

Republican Vice Presidential candidate Paul Ryan issued some strong words on the religious liberty front over the weekend. Just one day after President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign released an ad praising the president for leading America “with faith values,” Ryan fervently disagreed.

During a phone call with thousands of Faith and Freedom Coalition members, the vice-presidential candidate warned about what a second Obama term would look like. Taking aim predominately at the administration’s controversial contraceptive mandate, Ryan said that the president’s plans would threaten the nation’s faith-inspired heritage. He also decried the “dangerous path” Obama has purportedly set America on.

Paul Ryan: Obamas Dangerous Path for America Threatens the Nations Judeo Christian Values

Republican vice presidential candidate, Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., gestures as he speaks during a campaign event at the Douglas County Fairgrounds, Sunday, Nov. 4, 2012, in Castle Rock, Colo. Credit: AP

“It’s a path that grows government, restricts freedom and liberty, and compromises those values, those Judeo-Christian, western civilization values that made us such a great an exceptional nation in the first place,” he said of Obama’s policies surrounding health care and religious freedom.

Ryan also noted that the Catholic Church is embroiled in a legal battle with the administration over the contraceptive mandate, which many Christians argue forces some religious people to violate conscience.

Paul Ryan: Obamas Dangerous Path for America Threatens the Nations Judeo Christian Values

Republican vice presidential candidate, Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., gestures as he speaks during a campaign event, Sunday, Nov. 4, 2012, in Mansfield, Ohio. Credit: AP

“We should not have to sue the federal government to keep our constitutional freedoms,” Ryan continued. ”Imagine what he would do if he actually got reelected. It just puts a chill down my spine.”

The candidate also thanked those individuals who are praying for and supporting Mitt Romney and Ryan. Additionally, he shared that he keeps a rosary in his pocket and that he prays with his family daily.

(H/T: BuzzFeed)

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Comments (125)

  • Tom Ballard
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 3:59pm

    Its more than just faith issues, Its personal freedom!

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  • DeavonReye
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 2:54pm

    Can someone give examples of “Judeo Christian values” being talked about here, along with scriptural backing? Thank you.

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    • JRook
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 3:23pm

      Not sure of all of them, but I’m pretty sure that blatant lying is not one of them.But that hasn’t stopped Romney with his Welfare to Work lie, Medicare benefit cut lie, Jeep jobs to China lie or Ryan’s auto plant closing under the PRESIDENT lie. Other good examples of behaviors which are in opposition to Judeo-Christian values can be found in the selective and biased reporting seen here everyday. When you knowing pass along, attempt to validate or even ignore a blatant lie, you are no better than the liar. Perhaps worse.

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    • theotherberean
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 3:57pm

      Judeo-Christian values are pretty much whatever Obama’s agenda is against.

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 3:59pm

      JROOK, I don’t have an opinion on what you posted. I don’t really follow politics much. What I’m interested in are the “values” and what scriptural backing there is for them.

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 4:14pm

      Again, I’m not wanting to get into any specific polititians. Just wanting to know what these “values” are, and scriptural context.

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 7:07pm

      Translated, “Obama is trying to destroy our Theocracy.”

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    • PurrrpleMtnMajesty
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:41pm

      A very recent example is encouraging people to vote for “Revenge”.
      Romans 12:19 New Living Translation (©2007)
      Dear friends, never take revenge. Leave that to the righteous anger of God. For the Scriptures say, “I will take revenge; I will pay them back,” says the LORD.

      Cancelling the National Day of Prayer because they didn’t want to offend anyone. (Christians of course are not considered ‘anyone’ as their offense doesn’t matter.)

      And then there’s lying…one of the 10 commandments… Romney did NOT kill anyone’s wife. How ugly can you get…..or lying about women’s rights. There’s a HUGE difference between denying someone the RIGHT to CHOOSE (birth control OR abortion) and forcing all taxpayers to fund something that is against their conscience and religious belief.
      And last…. we don’t want a leader who would deny a baby who was “accidently” born, the right to medical care…READ this article, THEN examine your own beliefs, whatEVER your faith:
      http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/09/who_would_fail_to_help_a_baby_fighting_to_survive.html#ixzz29nDVyy5U

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    • woody4_rom828
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 2:37am

      Abortion
      Psalm 139:13 For you created my inmost being! You knit me together in my mothers womb. I praise You because I am fearfully and wonderfully made.

      Gay Marriage
      Romans 1:26 Because of this God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust one for another. Men committed indecent acts with other men and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

      Truth
      Exodus 20:16 You shall not give false witness to you neighbor.

      Class Envy
      Exodus 20:17 You shall not covet your neighbors house. You shall not covet your neighbors wife, or servants or anything that belongs to your neighbor.

      Honesty and Giving
      Ephesians 4:28 And he who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work! Doing something useful with his own hands, that he may have something to share with those in need.

      There are many many more but only allowed so many characters.

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    • michael from Ga.
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 8:27am

      There is No such thing/name as Judeo-Christian.

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 8:35am

      Thank you for your input, Woody.

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 8:53am

      I know that many of these values were in the Hammarabi Code as well [older than OT texts], but understand that people were introduced to them in christian texts. Whereas I know of places in the bible that cast a bit of doubt on SOME of these values, I will digress at this time, . . . but am curious about the first one [though it is a bit of a change of subject].

      Psalm 139:13, being “created inmost being, formed in the womb, wonderfully made”. The implication being that a god directs each person’s outcome. I’m not just talking about a person who would eventually be more proned to “wanting to commit murder” [which is something that can be overcome with self control]. Maybe . . . not even those who desire someone of the same sex [I think of science discovering the "gay gene"].

      But what about the person who cannot “just believe” something? I fall in that camp. I cannot honestly “just believe” the stories in the christian Canon. In fact, I have found much fault in it. Was I “formed in my inmost being” to be anti-religious. . . . on purpose? I’m going under the assumption that there IS a god. If this is the case, . . . does that mean that 5 point Calvanism IS the case? Was I “created for destruction”, . . . for “His pleasure and glory”?

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    • woody4_rom828
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 9:05pm

      Deavon,
      I respect your honesty. As for me I put my faith and trust in Christ as stated in scripture that Christ came to seek and save those who were lost. I am sure you know John 3:16 ” For God so loved the world that he gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life. I strongly suggest reading a book called “Scaling the Secular City-A Defense of Christianity” by J.P. Moreland. It gives an intermediate level philosophical arguments for the truth of Christianity and history of the Scriptures and Biblical canon.

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 7, 2012 at 8:46am

      Woody, respectfully, . . . I have seen apologetic books. They aren’t compelling, and here’s why. I’m not sure what this book proposes [if you would like to give main points, that would be helpful], but even if the whole of the biblical Canon was historically correct [names, places, even some occurances], that still says nothing about whether or not any of the supernatural claims happened. BUT, even if these claims COULD be proven [which is impossible], I can only go with what I have. ~20 years of christianity, and it being completely empty. . . . . no “god” detected, . . . . scientific discovery running contrary to biblical accounts, . . . I can only BE honest in my world view.

      Yes, I am well aware of John 3:16, but see it on an entirely different level than mainstream christianity. I’ll leave it at that.

      But again, IF I am “formed from the womb in my inmost being”, then it is clear that this god created me with the makeup that could not “find him”. And IF this god insists upon “people finding him” before they can go to heaven, and the others, hell, . . . then it is a monster.

      I happen to think that this god doesn’t exist [nor any others]. Until I am shown otherwise, I keep my honest stance.

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  • DrNiblik
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 2:24pm

    One way or the other, the country is going to come unglued on Wednesday morning. I was hearing on the radio this morning that BOTH sides are already lawering up to sue in the event they lose.

    It’s a pity really. All this noise, muck-raking, and finger pointing. You’d think America would set a better example for the rest of the world.

    Apropos of nothing….., Can anyone tell me how to avoid getting my posts bumped off the board?

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  • petlar4421
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 1:50pm

    Know what’s wrong about Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney????
    They make sense and tell the truth.
    The American people have become so used to the lies and distortions and evils of a so-called “transparent” Obama administration, that we cannot trust anyone…..most especially the White House!!.
    What’s wrong with Mr. Romney and a Mr. Ryan????? They are right and they are just. They are who we need…….Right NOW!

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 7:09pm

      They tell the truth? Like caring about our debts and deficits, while voting to go to two unfunded wars, voting for a medicare part D unfunded? Voting for the auto bailout and taking stimulus money?

      They’re just as big as hypocrites as every other politician.

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    • binge_thinker
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:35pm

      DOnt confuse the poor liberals with facts.

      Oops..too late.
      Obama Presidency by the Numbers

      1. U.S. sovereign debt downgrade: first in American history
      2. Federal spending (25% of GDP): highest since World War II
      3. Budget deficit (10% of GDP): highest since World War II
      4. Federal debt (67% of GDP): highest since just after World War II
      5. Employment (58.1% of population working): lowest since 1983
      6. Long-term unemployment (45.9% of total): highest since 1930s
      7. Increase in nonfarm payroll employment (0.5%) since recovery began 26 months ago: slowest job growth 26 months after a severe recession since World War II
      8. Home-ownership rate (59.7%): lowest since 1965
      9. Percentage of taxpayers paying income tax (49%): lowest in modern era
      10. Government dependency (47%). defined as the percentage of persons receiving one or more federal benefit payments: highest in American history.
      Sources: Standard & Poor’s, Office of Management and Budget, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Morgan Stanley, Joint Committee on Taxation,and the U.S. Census

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  • RightyRoughneck
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 12:26pm

    So sad to see the deterioration of Christian values in this nation. These values represent more than believing in a superior being, they are the moral foundation of decency in America. It is not by chance that these values have been methodically and intentionally demonized by the new movement in this country. These values that Christianity represent have been the glue that has held our nuclear families and this country together for so long contrary to the atheist belief system. In fact I would argue that man with all his achievements has not learned a thing other than arrogance on a monumental scale since his purging of the Christian faith. Its not about being a Christian you see, it is about the values that it represents. You can be an Atheist and still cherish the values of Christianity but of course most dismiss it all. Real Christianity is about the ethical treatment of one another regardless of race, working class, or belief system, what is so wrong with that? The progressive movement doesn’t just destroy the concept of Jesus they have totally destroyed the message that he represented. With the new movement we must hate the religious, hate the rich, hate other races, its all about division. My point is there is more to Christian values than a God many don’t believe in anymore. Without deeply rooted moral values there is absolutely nothing between us and the rest of the world. Freedom without morals is like a car without gas it just doesn’t work.

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    • THERAPTURCOMES
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 12:40pm

      Christianity is not about ethical treatment of others. This is just new age Hog Wash

      Christianity is the FAITH that is taught in Romans 10:9-10 it is all about belief upon Christ in spite of us living in corrupted flesh.

      It all boils down to John 3:18 and nothing added

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    • RightyRoughneck
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 1:04pm

      My focus is on Christian values not the intricacies of the Christian faith. Ethical treatment of others is an important value of of the Christian faith. I am not talking about watering down your religion I am stressing the value of the teachings of the bible applying to the way we treat one another. Save your fire and brimstone for your witnessing sessions. The values in the bible have promoted the best in all of us through our history and instilled a great legacy of perseverance even though often all odds are against us. I am talking about ethics, and values not soap boxing about doctrine.

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    • THERAPTURCOMES
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 4:06pm

      RIGHTY

      What don’t you understand about 2 Cor 6:14-18 & James 4:4 or for that matter Gal 1:8-9???????

      These verses, these GOD BREATHED verses are crystal clear. Anyone whom votes for either is guilty of promoting ANOTHER GOSPEL

      You vote your christian values and vote for a KNOWN cult member that has tithed MILLIONS to the spreading of that cults FALSE GOSPEL

      Gal 1:8-9

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    • RightyRoughneck
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 4:53pm

      Rapture I respect your comments and can sense a genuine concern and compassion for others and know you are trying to lead people to the truth because you are worried about there salvation. You cant force meat on those who are only ready for milk. I fear that in trying to help you may have had the unintended effect of chasing off many people you could have brought to the lord. I think you have a great calling but you must realize that those you seek to help could easily take your tone in a judgmental way? You come off as condemning the sinner, I understand that you cannot compromise on the word of God and respect that. You have a ministry and can save many I am sure but work on your delivery =). These days many people don’t know the word and to come at them full force in such a way easily can alienate them and send them back into the world when they could have been saved.

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    • THERAPTURCOMES
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 5:09pm

      RIGHTY

      The sinner is CONDEMNED John 3:18. The only thing I have done is REPEAT John 3:18.

      Can you tell me why all of the apostles were killed in violent deaths with the exception of John? It is because the WORLD hates Christ and those that are His fellow workers.

      The Gospel to the sinner is OFFENSIVE

      It makes no difference how the gospel is presented because the gospel is confronting the sinner with his or here sin.

      Did you know that Christ taught more on hell than He did on any other subject? I am doing no less, Hell and the Lake of fire are waiting and I am serving warning.

      Tell me, how many will go to my video ‘How to make your own AFTER RAPTURE PACKETS’ after the resurrection/rapture takes place?

      I am warning all that will listen, Believe upon Christ, the REAL Christ Romans 10:9-10 before it is to late. They are being told, what is going to happen before it happens.

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    • THERAPTURCOMES
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 5:10pm

      RIGHTY

      I ask you yet again, What don’t you understand about 2 Cor 6:14-18, James 4:4, Gal 1:8-9???

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    • RightyRoughneck
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 5:49pm

      You have a lot of pride. And the blood of all those you chase from Christ is on your hands.

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    • luxlife
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 6:36pm

      @Righty – ” You cant force meat on those who are only ready for milk”
      Wonderful turn of phrase – is it from anything?

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    • wvernon1981
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 7:37pm

      Hanner,

      You’re making excuses for your god. It seemed your god had no problem imposing the death penalty for lesser “crimes” such as disobedient children and homosexuality but yet doesn’t impose any kind of penalty for holding slaves?

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:10pm

      The same Judeo Christian values….that lead them to owning slaves and not allowing women to vote.

      Yup. sounds like religion to me.

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    • binge_thinker
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:45pm

      Mod

      Only someone as dishonest as you could possibly write the tripe that you do.
      Christianity has been the foundation of the abolition of slavery, freeing women from oppression, caring for the poor and needy, giving to charity, building orphanage institutions, preventing infanticide, forbidding human sacrifice, equality for all, caring for the wounded such as the Red Cross, erection of hospitals, these have their origins in Christianity. None of these are attached to deceitful atheistic schemes of man. None.

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 11:34pm

      @BINGE_THINKER

      HAHAHAH.

      So wait, which is it.

      Were all of the founders Christians(as nearly everyone says on here)?

      If so, they were Christians, who wrote about freedom, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, WHILE owning other human beings.

      Again, they wrote about “all men being created equal” while denying women the ability to vote.

      Caring for the poor and needy? You mean like Mother Thersea who KEPT people in poverty because she saw it as a virtue rather then helping people get out of poverty?

      How about the churches, who lied to the people of Africa by telling them that condoms helped spread aids?

      To say that Christianity has been a force in ending these things is only half the argument, since Christianity(and religion) was a major force in STARTING these things.

      Don’t tell me religion fights for equality of women because it’s just not true.

      There are many Christians on here who say they will NEVER let a woman become a Pastor in their church because they “don’t think it’s her role.”

      So please, either admit that the founders weren’t ALL Christians, or admit that Christianity has played a huge role in this country for the enslavement of black people and the subjugation of women and the ONLY reasons there were advancements in those areas is because it had to get dragged kicking and screaming through the generations.

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    • woody4_rom828
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 2:59am

      @Luxlife-
      Righty was using words from Apostle Paul for example I Corinthians 3:1-2 “Brothers, I could not address you as spiritual but as worldly-mere infants in Christ. I gave you milk, not solid food for you were not ready for it.”

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 3:46am

      Mod, how do you expect anybody to respond to that?

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 8:49am

      @THE_CABRITO_GOAT

      I know, the truth hurts doesn’t it?

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 12:14pm

      Okay then, everything you say is true and right. May I know where you found this damning evidence, so I may pursue knowledge?

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 4:13pm

      Hello? Is this thing on?

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    • From Virginia
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 6:48pm

      @TheRapture Comes – It’s John 3:16, but more to the point, Christianity IS about Faith. However, the Book of Romans is THE life how-to manual. ALL of it is how to direct your life and what pitfalls to watch out for.

      So, RightyRoughNeck is right – our country, when it was a Christian country, actually VALUED those teachings that Romans taught us. It was called the Golden Rule and was taught by our parents, our churches and reinforced by the teachers in our schools.

      Civil society was completely destroyed when lousy leftists started chipping away at the very foundation that held our society together.

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  • OTBoxer
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 11:58am

    Someone plse define “Judeo-Christian values” already! Which pol came up with that term??

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    • Hanner
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 12:20pm

      The Old Testament was Judaism with all of its Mosaic Laws. The New Testament establishes the Church and Christianity that Christ brought in through the Cross. Jesus said in Matt 5 that he did not come to destroy the Law but fulfill it. He had been prophesied about all the way back to Moses. The Lord also says that “Until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or tittle will pass from the Law until all is fulfilled.” The Lord did away with the earthly temple and made all of us a spiritual temple. As for all of the moral and ethical commandments of the Old Testament, they are still completely valid! Upon closer examination of Jesus’ teachings you will see that he actually taught all of his lessons out of the Old Testament. The OT actually tells us to love our neighbors as we would ourselves. The term Judeo-Christian is appropriate because of the inseparable link between the OT and the NT.

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    • NineteenEighty4
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 12:32pm

      Well some of the original Judeo-Christian values are selling off women for gold and cattle, oh, and the divinely-sanctioned enslavement of non-Christians who weren’t killed through divinely-sanctioned conquest. So moral, wouldn’t you agree?

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    • God_Is_Not
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 12:59pm

      Knowing your limits when beating your slaves is a deeply cherished judeo-christian value.

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    • Hanner
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 1:13pm

      Ninteen-yrs-old—-Slavery was a normal activity in the world at that time. Proverbs 22:7 The rich rules over the poor, and the borrower is the slave of the lender.(Modern day slavery) Don’t sit in your small little box of a world and spew the stupidity of a small mind…….moron.

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    • Hanner
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 1:32pm

      God is not—- Don’t sit in your little bubble thousands of years later and judge the customs of that day. You are the servant of whoever you work for today. You are the servant of whoever you owe money to. House and Vehicle ring a bell? You will get beat down your back with the legal system if you don’t pay them. You are just as stupid as the other post.

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    • God_Is_Not
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 5:47pm

      Hanner,

      You fail. Is slavery right or wrong? Slavery was normal 200 years ago, does that make it right? I thought you held to moral absolutes? The problem is, your divinely inspired book doesn’t. Your god changes his mind.

      And no, being in debt is not the same as being literally owned. There is a reason why the bible is so specific about physically beating your slaves! You don’t beat your borrowers and expect to have a tyrannical god on your side. Fool.

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    • Hanner
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 6:53pm

      God is not–Psalms 14:1–The fool has said in his heart there is no God…..I don’t agree with slavery, but neither will I live in a small world and spit on the customs of other people and other times, I wasn’t alive then. I don’t live in a glass house. Throughout biblical times slavery was a common practice. The bible does not condemn slavery but has clear teaching on how slaves should be treated, which was often counter-cultural to the practices of surrounding nations. Biblical slavery amongst Jews was often an act of mercy to provide for the poor rather than an act of exploitation. The bible condemns the abuse of slaves and the forced enslavement of people and slaves were to be treated well in both Old and New Testaments, but being as you don’t believe in God or the bible you will just naturally spit out stupidity and ignorance like you do without knowing the truth. If you don’t think slavery exists today just quit paying your bills and you will find out who owns you. Quit paying taxes and you will also find out who owns you. Slavery is still here, it has just changed faces. Educate yourself.

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:06pm

      Don’t forget stoning rape victims if they are city dwellers or forcing the victims to marry their rapists, those are also Judeo-Christian values.

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    • God_Is_Not
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:23pm

      ‘The bible condemns the abuse of slaves’ (Hanner)

      When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-2)

      You are simply lying. Study cognitive dissonance and you’ll understand how we view your apologetics.

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 3:44am

      Trolls,

      http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/slavery_bible.html

      context, context, context.

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    • God_Is_Not
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 6:45am

      Thanks for the laugh.

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    • Hanner
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 7:32am

      What I find absolutely hilarious is a bunch of Godless Atheists quoting scripture to me! This is great! By arguing with me, you knotheads have to look up scripture to dispute me. God works in mysterious ways! hahahahahahahaha

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 11:52am

      Hanner, . . . not all “godless atheists” were born that way. Some spend years of their life in the church, in bible study, in church doctrine.

      Having said that, Exodus 21:20-2 IS an issue. You seem to be suggestion that “biblical slavery” was about debt payoff and an act of compassion. Which is it? Compassion, or rule [with beatings]?

      And you seem to forget the other actual slaves that were allowed to be taken from the cultures they [Hebrews] conquered! There was even a case where everyone was killed, expect for the virgin girls. Or, the “wives” taken from those conquered people, . . . giving them a short time to grieve the loss of their family. . . . . . as they are now amongst those who KILLED their family!

      Those verses are in there. They [Hebrews] were WRONG. They were IMMORAL. Where was the commandment saying, “Thou shalt not keep slaves”? The TRUE answer is, . . . you didn’t have a commandment where it was MEN who “believed their actions to be divine in origin”. Men made these rules. Barbaric, uneducated, immoral men. Just like most of the other cultures of the time. THEY were “god”.

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    • Hanner
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 3:11pm

      Deavon– why do unbelievers, backsliders….etc who have turned their back on God keep wanting to discuss God? If you don’t want no part of God and his word, why all the drama? Just walk away and forget about God. You made your choice. My belief, and service to the Lord is none of your business. My point is this…..You reject God, I don’t. You no longer have a dog in this fight. Walk away. Your disputing me will not change my mind, nor will I change yours. You obviously are have some guilt or conviction issues or my posts would not bother you, seeing as you don’t want anything to do with God anymore.

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 4:01pm

      Hanner, just to clear up some misconceptions on your part, . . . I am not “a backslider”. I am not “guilty or convicted”. I have not “made a choice to walk away from any deities”. First, . . . the “deity” has to actually exist FOR me to “walk away from it”. It is illogical to “turn my back” on a fictional character, or “choose against it”. This “god” being would have to [first] be proven, without question [and not "see how awesome a flower is?"] before any TRUE “choice” could be made. Do you choose to reject all Faeries, turning your back on them?

      As for “having a dog in this fight”, . . . when you throw out Psalms 14:1, you open yourself up to criticism/critique. Do you actually expect to insult people and them NOT say anything to you?

      So no, I will not “walk away”. Not when you specifically attempted to draw a favorable light on slavery by only bringing up the biblical slavery accounts that you did, . . . while neglecting the more heinous form of it.

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  • jefftavolieri
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 11:28am

    This is how stupid the GOP thinks you are: convincing you that you need to elect a mormon to save your judeo-christian values…

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    • THERAPTURCOMES
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 11:44am

      Paul Ryan being a Catholic is a member of a cult that is a perversion of the real Christianity. Both he and Romney spread ‘ANOTHER GOSPEL’ Gal 1:8-9.

      Anyone voting for either candidate has fallen for the trap. We Christians in these last days need to be doing two things

      (1) Spreading the gospel Romans 10:9-10

      (2) making AFTER RAPTURE PACKETS http://youtu.be/ahEVxIzlxwo for the left behind. The resurrection/rapture is at the door.

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    • vaman
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 12:18pm

      After rapture packets?! Hahaha, you’re crazy. Oddly, no matter who wins the election, an ultra liberal or the christian crazy, the world will not be ending.

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    • THERAPTURCOMES
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 12:43pm

      VAMAN

      The bible says what it means and means what it says. It is a full 1/3 prophecy and those prophecies have one by one come to pass.

      Soon you will see the resurrection/rapture with your own eyes and when you do, watch my video again and Google all the articles that I have shown in the video and by a good solid KJV bible while you still can

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    • Hemhum95
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 8:53am

      Ryan is Catholic. And Romney is of the Mormon faithful, who are charitable pro-life people who respect Christians and all other good faiths. Would you prefer an athiest, Marxist society?
      If so, plz stay home and forget to vote!

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  • 1Epistle
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 11:25am

    I’ve never understood the whole “Judeo-Christian values” label. Jews and Christians are as far apart as you can get. Immigrant Jews started the movie studios in Hollywood and still dominate it, they were integral in the establishment of the NAACP, the feminist movement, the ACLU, Marxism, the Bolshevik uprising…the list goes on. Ever wondered why your Christian values are mocked in Hollywood? Listing facts doesn’t make me anti-semetic, I’m just trying to show that there’s no correlation between the two. Judeo-Christian values is a myth.

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    • RepublitarianPrime77
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 11:51am

      Be careful about painting with too broad a brush! There are plenty of conservative religious Jews out there too.

      For example I like to listen to Michael Medved on the radio.

      The problem is, AS ALWAYS, the LIBERALISM. There are plenty of Liberals of all types (Jewish, Black, White…)

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    • WhiteMaleMinority
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 7:12pm

      1EPISTLE: Jesus was born and raised in the Jewish cultures, traditions and law. The Messianic idea was a Jewish construct and Jesus, as Messiah, is the completion of the Law of Moses and the OT Prophets. The Apostle Paul, who preached to the Gentiles, was trained in the OT Law and taught with that as an underpinning to the message of Jesus, who was the Christ (Messiah). While modern Jews do not recognize Jesus as their Messiah, excepting Messianic Jews, Christians recognize the OT Law and Scriptures as an integral part of the life of the Christian.

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  • Individualism
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 11:05am

    there both Catholics.

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  • Tigress1
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:48am

    Most of what attorneys do is all about REVENGE. Social Justice has an underlying theme of REVENGE. Obama’s entire Presidency was all about REVENGE. It was no mistake or coincidence that Obama told people that voting was the best REVENGE. That’s what Obama is all about!

    Is REVENGE what is most prevalent in your soul, or is it LOVE? Romney was right. Vote for LOVE OF COUNTRY!

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:08pm

      I am voting for love of country, I am voting against the liars, Romney and Ryan who will work only for the 1%. I am voting for Obama who will represent the entire nation.

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    • PurrrpleMtnMajesty
      Posted on November 6, 2012 at 2:19am

      ncinom
      you mean the lies of saying Romney killed a woman?
      the lies of saying the terrorist attack in benghazi was about a video and some
      non-existant mob?
      The lies that Romney will be taking women’s rights back to the 50s when in fact
      all he’s saying is that it should not be on the taxpayers dime. Conscientious Objection
      kept people out of wars, but we won’t allow it when it comes to something that we believe
      is the killing of innocents. You can choose for yourselves and fund Free Clinics to give
      what you need There are as many wealthy Democrats as Republicans….but don’t make
      people pay for something that is against their conscience or creed.

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  • The-Monk
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:42am

    One more day…..

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  • Tigress1
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:30am

    It seems that since Obama has been elected there is a new way for people to get rich. People don’t have jobs. Obama doesn’t share the American value of hard work. Redistribution of wealth is the way to go! A great way to get what somebody else has without working for it is to SUE! Ambulance chaser attorneys have no shame. They advertise on TV. “Been in a wreck? SUE!” “Have any of these diseases? SUE!” “Taken this medication? SUE!” “Boss is mean? SUE!” Who needs jobs anymore? Just sue someone and get money for free! That’s Obama economy!

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  • Tigress1
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:15am

    People should not have to sue the federal gov. to keep their Constitutional freedoms, and the federal gov. should stop suing everybody under the sun, from states to private enterprises as well! Obama is good for business alright – ATTORNEYS! Obama has created crony capitalism for his own buddies in his own occupation – law.
    Romney understand the law, and has a law degree, but his heart is in business. A great combination.

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    • barber2
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:26am

      Obama came from the Far Left Alinsky school of Community Organizing whose goal is ” to take power from those who have it ” and to give it to those who don’t. Bottom line: they were taught that capitalism was the cause of all evil and, thus, capitalism must be destroyed. Obama has a mission . Can you guess what it is ? NOBAMA 2012

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  • mbriz
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:14am

    A bigot, and a liar. Glad that douche won’t be in the White House, what a phony.

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  • justangry
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:12am

    Judeo – Christian values? You mean the values that led to English common law, which led to our Bill of Rights, which PAUL RYAN voted against every chance he got? Mkay.

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    • Ilikepeople
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:30am

      Wow the earth of thought is so destroyed. You don’t have a Bill of Rights, and if you truly had a God given Bill of Rights, then they wouldn’t be able to regulate them as they are regulating. The only God given right you have is the right to the earth of thought – that’s it. The Bill of rights is a Bill of Privileges, and the first two privileges secure the other privileges. But as you can see people have allowed for their God given right [to think] to be destroyed.

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    • Ilikepeople
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:43am

      If you don’t fix your actual God given right [to think], you can bet the United States as you know it is over with, and it will continue to fall apart until it’s no more.

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    • DOra Glasberg
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:48am

      Ryan better pray he wins hos seat back
      as long as he likes praying so much.

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    • resme
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:51am

      What values? I don’t understand… Is one person’s values better than another?

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    • Ilikepeople
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:58am

      People make the mistake that God needs them around, but God is the grand farmer of the field, and he’ll separate the few fruits that he likes, and turn over the ground plowing the rest underneath.

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    • resme
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 11:22am

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiXup3fWX7w&t=28m0s

      monk,just,east

      I know i already gave this to you east, I skipped to a good part.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 11:51am

      Hi Resme,

      I saw that yesterday someplace on The Blaze. I saved the link.

      Thanks for re-posting it and thinking of me. : )

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  • chucksue351
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:02am

    watch out ryan catholic romney mormon, then the sunday laws will be put in place, remember to keep the Sabbath (saturday is the 7 day of week it has not changed)

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    • Polarized America
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:23am

      yes …Sunday -God was very busy at work – “let there be light ”

      And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning——-the first day.

      btw ..i’m not a 7th dayer ————-i’m just sayin

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  • jman-6
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:55am

    I certainly don’t like him but Obama is only one of many in America that are responsible for us losing Judeo-Christian values. The main culprit of this was the yellow bellied churches who didn’t stand up to the assault on this heritage. The go along to get along didn’t work out very well! Goes to show you that a little sin ruins the whole loaf!

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  • tomavitabile
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:53am

    DEAD HEAT–Boom! Today and Election Day. I’m in a hard hit area hit by Sandy so I’m heading to the polls early. While I’m casting my ballot I want everyone voting to join me in honoring a fallen soldier, veteran, or someone who is currently serving, by saying a silent prayer. Let’s all “Take A Hero To Vote” and say thank you to someone who gave the ultimate sacrifice for us, this country, and our freedoms. Click Here to Find Out More.
    http://tomavitabile.wordpress.com/2012/11/01/take-a-hero-to-election-day-and-say-thank-you-as-you-cast-your-ballot/
    Tom Avitabilie

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  • acovenantinblood
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:53am

    What Judeo-Chritain values? We seem to think that having the Republican Party legislate those values is the Christian thing t do. Instead of waking up and realizing that it’s the failure of our Christianity here that has brought all this upon us then repenting and changing this culture back by living like we actually believe God is sovereign and doing what He says.

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  • tomavitabile
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:48am

    Boom! Today and Election Day. I’m in a hard hit area hit by Sandy so I’m heading to the polls early. While I’m casting my ballot I want everyone voting to join me in honoring a fallen soldier, veteran, or someone who is currently serving, by saying a silent prayer. Let’s all “Take A Hero To Vote” and say thank you to someone who gave the ultimate sacrifice for us, this country, and our freedoms. Click Here to Find Out More.
    http://tomavitabile.wordpress.com/2012/11/01/take-a-hero-to-election-day-and-say-thank-you-as-you-cast-your-ballot/
    Tom Avitabilie

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:47am

    If Obama gets another term, then the only religion that he will allow are those that tow the party line.

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  • Ilikepeople
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:46am

    Well early voting should have never been allowed to happen in America (because voting is a privilege, and people are generally excited about having a privilege), but your first mistake was making voting [a right], because people don’t exercise rights because they think it’s always going to be there. Riddle me this: if people don’t have a right to get into Heaven, then how can you possibly have a right to vote? Don’t tell me this is a nation of Christian values.

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    • Ilikepeople
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:57am

      You don’t have a Bill of Rights either, but that it’s a Bill of Privileges, because [people work much harder to exercise privileges] than they do rights. And it feels good to have privileges.

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    • Ilikepeople
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:04am

      You can argue with me all you want to, but the proof is in the pudding, and the pudding says they are regulating your perceived right’s, because they aren’t rights – they are privileges.

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:18pm

      Nothing like A Tea ****** arguing to limit the Rights of Americans. Voting is a Right, period, end of story. Too many real American Patriots, spilled blood to ensure Americans can exercise that Right, not fake patriots in tri-corner hats.

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  • ZAP
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:45am

    COMMUNISM = ‘Dangerous Path’ for America Threatens the Nation’s ‘Judeo-Christian Values’

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  • Proverbs17-12NLT
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:39am

    Socialism is “For the People”, Not the Socialist. Do as I SAY not as I Do.

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  • Tri-ox
    Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:37am

    obama’s Black Panthers plan to “monitor” polling places, AGAIN …

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20121105_Will_New_Black_Panthers_be_back_this_year_.html

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