Was Obama Once an Indonesian Citizen? Here’s What We Found When We Went There Looking
As part of our series on President Obama’s education and past, we interviewed Barack Obama’s first ever principal, Father Bart Janssen. Our freelance correspondent, Charles C. Johnson, went all the way to Indonesia to find out more about Obama’s past.
Editor’s note: Writer Charles C. Johnson will joined TheBlaze Editor-in-Chief Scott Baker to talk about this story on today’s BlazeCast:
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Enrollment documents viewed by TheBlaze confirm that a young Barack Obama was listed as an Indonesian citizen and a Muslim on school registration in the 1960s. And while the document has been reported on before, albeit lightly, TheBlaze has compiled the most complete view thus far of the document and the circumstances surrounding it – including an interview with the president’s first-ever principal while he was in Indonesia.
TheBlaze repeatedly photographed the document in the office of the current headmaster of Santo Fransiskus Assisis, a Catholic school that Obama attended from January 1968 to December 1970 in Jakarta. The record shows that Obama (or his parents) – at least for the period of his life – claimed to be an Indonesian citizen, that he took the last name Soetoro (the last name of his step-father, Lolo), that his religion was listed as Islam, and that he was born in Honolulu.
A picture of Obama’s school registration at the Santo Fransiskus Assisis school in Jakarta, Indonesia. The first line notes his name, the second line shows where he was born, the third line notes his citizenship, and the sixth line shows religious affiliation. (Photo: Charles Johnson/TheBlaze)
Another view of Obama’s school registration at the Santo Fransiskus Assisis school in Jakarta, Indonesia. (Photo: Charles Johnson/TheBlaze)
Arrows point to the relevant information on Obama’s school registration. (Photo: Charles Johnson/TheBlaze)
Fastforward: Why the School Obama Attended After St. Fransiskus Is Just as Important
While Obama’s time at Santo Fransiskus is important (and we’ll explore it in more detail shortly), it’s just as crucial to fastforward to when Obama left the school.
According to records at Santo Fransiskus Assisis, Obama left after 1970 because his family moved. That move was due to Lolo leaving Dinas Topografi, a mapmaking survey company that contracted with the Indonesian army—which is listed in the document we viewed—to join Union Oil where he became a well-connected government liaison officer.
That job came with perks, among them access to some of the best schools for young Barry Soetoro. That’s evident by the young Obama attending Besuki School, one of the three best public schools in Indonesia, after leaving St. Fransiskus. Besuki School is the sort of place the connected send their children when they are not already sending them to the pricy international school. (This is an important detail because once Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, got a job working for the Ford Foundation in 1980, and after she had divorced Lolo Soetoro, she began sending her daughter, Maya, to Jakarta International School.)
In a taped interview in Indonesian and subsequent email with Akhmad Solikhin, Besuki’s current principal, he told my Indonesian translator and me that, other than Obama, there has only been one non-Indonesian at the school—a Dutch student. That’s not surprising considering Besuki School, founded in 1934, was formerly Carpentier Alting Stichting Nassau School — a school run and controlled by the Dutch for the Dutch colonialists and the Indonesian elite. In 1962 — before Obama attended in 1970 — it was taken over by the Indonesian government. Besuki was then and is now a prestigious place where potential students sit on waitlists. In fact, in 2007 Besuki began using a mandatory admissions test to try and cut down on the number of Indonesian children trying to get in.
Why is this all important? Because given that history, it doesn’t seem likely that the school would have wasted one of their prized seats on a student not claiming to be Indonesian, especially when it was the sort of place that educated the children of government officials and the well-to-do.
The mosque located at the Besuki school in Indonesia. (Photo: Charles Johnson/TheBlaze)
Could Obama Have Gone to a Public Indonesian School Without Claiming to Be a Citizen?
Thanks to the political instability in Indonesia that took place between 1965-1967, public records for the 1960s are spotty, at best, for all levels of government. Only the Catholic school Obama attended – St. Fransiskus — had any records to speak of regarding claims of citizenship.
Nevertheless, my Indonesian-born translator and I were able to speak with several government officials about the policy governing adoptions and foreign nationals attending public school. Was it possible that Obama could have gotten into Indonesian public schools without claiming to be an Indonesian citizen?
“It is extremely rare that non-Indonesians go to Indonesian public school,” Liperty Marpaum told us. He is a staff member of the department of Law & Labor (Hukum & Pegawaian), which handles education policies for the Indonesian government. Foreigners must apply and ask permission for the department of education before they may enroll and even must give a copy of their passport and reasons for wanting to go to school in the country. Most of the foreigners, he said, are Asians—Filipinos, Thai, and the like, not Europeans. And Americans? “No. All of the Americans go to international school.”
We searched for any such permission document Obama may have submitted to the department of education by Lolo Soetoro or Ann Dunham, but came up empty. We also could not find records at Besuki School, despite requests.
So how did Obama get in?
It has been a source of speculation for some time that Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetoro. It is always a possibility, and it could explain at least the citizenship claim on the school form. However, it’s important to note that even if Obama was adopted and became an Indonesian citizen, he would not have lost his American citizenship under existing constitutional law (see the Supreme Court case Perkins v. Elg). Indonesia then and now does not allow dual citizenship, but under American law he would not have lost his American citizenship until he reached the age of majority and chose himself to give it up.
(Think of it this way: Your parents cannot decide you are no longer a U.S. citizen if you are natural born. But if you make the decision yourself once old enough —join a foreign army, for example — you could very well lose your citizenship.)
Defenders of the president (and detractors of the adoption theory) point to a 1958 Indonesian law that says a child cannot be adopted if they are over five years old and that Barry and his mother arrived in August 1967—after he had turned six. But Lolo and Ann Dunham married on March 15, 1965, when Obama was three and half and Lolo left for Indonesia in June 1966 while Obama was still four, according to Washington Post editor David Maraniss’s book, “Barack Obama: The Story.” Soetoro, then, could easily have filled out adoption forms, possibly in advance of the Indonesian school year that begins in July, in preparation of his wife and stepson’s arrival. We know that Obama’s mother suddenly reversed her previous position that her husband’s departure to Indonesia would cause undue mental hardship (Maraniss, p. 201) so presumably she had settled on living in Indonesia with her husband and child. Under Indonesian law, when a man married a woman with children, the woman’s children become Indonesian nationals, as well.
Additionally, the way Maraniss describes the relationship between Obama and his stepfather is like it were an adoption. “Like his mother, Barry took the Soetoro name. He called Ann mamah and Lolo papah and did not flinch when Lolo introduced him as his son.” (Maraniss, p. 230) So complete was the view that Barack Obama was Barry Soetoro that Israel Darmawan, Obama’s first grade teacher at Fransiskus Assisis, did not recognize who he was, according to one account.
A History of Mistruths
While the current headmaster of Fransiskus Assisis did not know whose handwriting was on the form, she said it was safe to assume that the information on it was provided by Obama’s mother — his stepfather visited only rarely during the three years Obama attended school. That raises another theory: Could Ann Soetoro, who was said to have been very interested in her son’s education so much so that she tutored him in the morning, have lied or stretched the truth regarding her son’s status to help him get into Besuki school, the best school she could? If so, it wouldn’t be the last time that she did everything she could to have her son get the best possible education.
Maraniss describes Dunham as “tireless at working the system, even from afar” as one of the reasons Obama got into the elite Punahou prep school in Hawaii. Nor would it be the last time he and his family would lie about his origins. Indeed, Maraniss notes Obama came from a family of liars who told tall tales about his origins:
“His grandfather [Stanley] had told strangers that the boy was a descendant of ali ‘i, native Hawaiian royalty. In Obama’s later memoir, he recalled boasting at Punahou that his father was an African prince. Some classmates remembered it differently, that first he claimed his father was an Indonesian prince.” (p. 268).
Maraniss is most likely referring to Kirsten B. Caldwell, who wrote in a 2008 collection that Obama had told her and her sister that he was an Indonesian prince:
“My sister and I remember Barry bragging about his father being an Indonesian prince (in his book, Dreams From My Father, he recalls telling people his father was an African prince, but we tennis court kids remember it the other way). We didn’t know it, but at that point, he was a young boy who didn’t know his real father, and had been living in Indonesia with his mother, stepfather, and half-sister, and had recently moved to a small apartment in Honolulu to live with his grandparents in order to attend a highly acclaimed private school on scholarship. What a culture shock! I can certainly understand how a new kid would want to seem more exotic when he was likely feeling a little insecure. I just figured he was an Indonesian prince who would go back for his legacy after graduation.” (“Our Friend Barry,” p. 69) [Emphasis added]
It doesn’t end there. Obama’s Occidental College classmate Amiekohel “Kim” Kimbrew of Los Angeles recalled rumors that Obama was a “Hawaiian prince” to the Chicago Tribune. (“Activism blossomed in college,” Chicago Tribune, March 30, 2007).
We also know from reports in the student newspaper that Occidental, which prides itself on its diversity and international relations focus, was trying to bring more minority students to campus at the time. Might Obama have tried to pass himself off as still more diverse? Could he even have lied to “seem more exotic” to an admissions officer at Occidental or Columbia?
Add all that to the fact that Obama embellished in his book, Dreams from My Father, as Maraniss has noted, and that TheBlaze has also revealed in the past he lied about a “transfer program” he describes between Occidental and Columbia in the same book (no such transfer program exists).
That raises the question: Were Obama’s parents lying when they told Fransiskus Assisis that he was an Indonesian citizen?
It’s hard to say, but the answers to such questions matter.
Author Charles Johnson pictured in front of Obama’s house in Menteng Dalam, luxurious by local standards at the time. (Photo: Charles Johnson/TheBlaze)
What the Founder of Obama’s Indonesian School Told Us
To find out more about Obama’s time in Indonesia, TheBlaze tracked down Father Bart Janssen. He’s the elderly founder of Santo Fransiskus Assisis who we found in a monastery in Den Bosch, The Netherlands. We asked him, through a Dutch translator, what he remembers of the young Barack Obama.
In the late 1960s, Janssen was sent by the Bishop of Jakarta to set up a church in the region, which at the time was a small village well beyond the city limits of Jakarta (though now sits practically in the middle of Jakarta due to the amazing growth of the city). And while his goal was a church, the school was a way to assimilate into the community.
“There were not Catholic churches or schools in that area at the time – it was quite remote, a little village, if you will. Offering a good education was a typical way to get the local people involved with the church and become part of the community,” Janssen told us.
The school started in February 1967 and attracted about 50 students in the first years: “It was quite a challenge in the beginning, especially to attract children and grow the school and the church in such a remote area, but it became a success after a few years.”
Obama was signed up for the school in 1968 as part of the second class of students entering the school. He was six years old at the time and attended first, second, and third grade there. Janssen doesn’t remember who registered Obama, but he recalls that Obama’s mother didn’t speak Indonesian at the time, so he thinks that both the stepfather and the mother would have been there together to register their son. He also doesn’t think the details in Obama’s registration document should be considered official declarations of his faith or citizenship because it wasn’t a government form and people played loose with such facts at the time. For example, it was typical to register as Indonesian and Islamic just because you were living there, so the religion indicated may just be what his father put down because it was the normal thing to do.
“That was just the norm,” Janssen explained.
It was, Janssen added however, well known that Obama was American and came to the school from Hawaii. And Janssen said he also had an understanding that Obama was raised Christian, though not Catholic, because his mother and natural father were known to be so. Janssen also said he knew that Obama’s birth father was from Kenya and that his mother was American.
And it wasn’t a requirement to be Indonesian or Catholic to attend the school. Things were loose in terms of citizenship requirements in Indonesia, Janssen recalled. He himself had Dutch citizenship when he first set up the school in 1967 and it wasn’t until 1982 that he changed his citizenship to Indonesian. He switched citizenship back to Dutch in 2005 when he returned to the Netherlands.
Obama at Age Six: I Want to Be President
Though Indonesian citizenship wasn’t required, courses were taught in Indonesian and Obama learned the language in three months. Father Janssen recalled that when Obama took his Indonesian speaking test for the school, the young student told the class that he wanted to be president some day.
“He said he would like to be president, but he didn’t say president of which country,” Janssen said. “It ‘s quite remarkable that he had that idea back then and now, in fact, he is president of the United States.”
While Father Janssen didn’t teach classes and has no direct recollection about Obama’s performance as a student, he said Obama’s teacher told him that Obama was a good student and received good grades.
“He learned Indonesian in 3 months, after all,” he said.
He added that Obama’s parents rented a house nearby so that their son could attend the school, and also remembers that Obama was quite a bit bigger than most other students there.
Obama wasn’t the only foreign student in the school, but Janssen doesn’t recall how many were Indonesian students and how many came from other countries. He said about half the students were Catholic and the rest were other religions, including many of Islamic faith.
“It wasn’t a requirement to be Catholic, but they would be taught Catholic principles and values.”
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Where does all this leave us, then? Here’s what we know:
- The document for the first-ever school Obama attended in Indonesia lists him as an Indonesian citizen (born in Hawaii) and a Muslim.
- Those claims would have benefited a young Obama as he continued his schooling.
- The Catholic priest who started the school, however, says it was not odd to lie about such things.
- We know that Obama and his family have a history of mistruths.
- But it’s also not far-fetched to consider that Obama’s step-father, Lolo, could have adopted him – thus making him an Indonesian citizen as a young boy.
- Even if he was adopted and was an Indonesian citizen at one time, though, it would not have affected his status as a U.S. citizen per the Supreme Court.
Still, that leaves many questions. And the truth lies somewhere in those facts. Ultimately, only Obama knows for sure what that truth is. And depending on what happens on Tuesday we may or may not know anytime soon.
An exit after one term from the White House could act as a catalyst for more information more quickly. An Obama win, on the other hand, would likely keep any information – at least from the president himself — sealed for at least four more years.
Voters on Tuesday, then, may be deciding more than just who the next president is – they could help decide how much more we know about the one we have now.
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SaturdaysWarrior76
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:25amSo I guess it’s safe to say he never attended any Fourth of July Picnics with fireworks and apple pie. This man has no concept of American values whatsoever. His whole life has been shrouded in lies. Lying has simply been a continual part of his existence… it’s all he knows.
GOD help us tomorrow. God help this country wake up and vote BHO out.
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:47amIf Communist obama had been around during Adam & Eve – He would have played the role of the Snake ! He is as Evil as Hitler !
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jodygirl58
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:49amI agree with you 100%!!!! This country is doomed if BHO is re-elected…..Better get your hand baskets out if Romney doesn’t prevail.
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Ilikepeople
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:56amYou’re going to have to help yourself tomorrow, God’s busy. Besides you want God’s son born with $250,000 worth of debt on his soul – so why should God help?
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nichevo
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:01amI’m really starting to pity you Blazers at this point. It has been a painful transition from amusement to pity but it was ineviable. I guess when you have nothing positive to say about Gov. Romney,you are left to this desperte grab for attention. This approach wrked well for you in 2008 and it looks like a repeat in 2012. When will you evr learn!! Peace!!
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Ilikepeople
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:24amOf course it’s a repeat of 2008, and even Ryan is a male version of Palin.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:43amThere are very distasteful trolls on board. This Troll situation is probably going to get worse, the more Soros figures out that he’s been foiled, the more they will slime their way onto this and all decent blogs.
They are easy to spot. I’m going to ignore them, try to pray for them if I can without throwing up…but they are more proof that this landslide is coming. Wouldn’t it be horrible to have their mindset???
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barber2
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:09amPATTY: Agree. The anger, the hat the lies, and the arrogance of the Left is proof positive of their origin.
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ChiefGeorge
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:13amI just hope we can put this person behind us post haste come Tues or Wed morn.
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rickc34
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:15amObama’s past is shrouded in secrecy, he is protected by a group of people that are using him to change America and its role in the world. America is gutted at this point and unable to help like in days past. We have to borrow money just to keep our government running on a daily basis. He (Obama) has lied so much you cannot get the truth out of him or his people. If Obama wins what does it mean for America? deeper in debt , less personal freedom, rationed healthcare and starving children . Welcome to Obama’s America.
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Salamander
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:23amHis American values are ONLY whatever it takes to ‘work the system’! He grew up that way and it is instilled in his character today!
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:57amHow long has Mr. Beck been sitting on this story, hiding this startling revelation (that is 5 years old) from the American public?
Who are the behind the scenes powers that told Mr. Beck to Stand Down!! and not print this vital news??
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RobbieTLHughie
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 11:01amlol some of you are serious, others are shouting “NO IGNORE THE IDIOTS THEY ARE LEFTIST TROLLS” before long this website is just going to turn into Prison Planet 2.
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DeOppressoLiber
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 11:14amI watched America 2016, the key player in his life was his mother.
She is the Anglia Lansbury character, Eleanor, from the Manchurian Candidate (book written in 1959, by Robert Condon). She went out of her way to make sure little Dear Leader had anti US views and also views to want to be President. She Trained him well, when her husband Soetoro was not communist enough she divorced him and found somebody else to train and indoctrinate little Dear Leader.
The questions have to be answered why? Why would a little kid of nine want to be president? Who has their stuff together at that age to understand that? He had to be indoctrinated to talk like that.
This guy has been trained and indoctrinated by his mother with the help of handlers (FMD, Bill Ayers A Who’s Who from the radical left that had ties to enemy Foreign Intelligence Services) to be a anti US radical communist (stated in his books) and to want to be President.
Please read before voting.
http://www.ushistory.org/paine/crisis/c-01.htm
To many doors where opened for this guy to be a coincidence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXEoQJ7ZMZs
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Canyouhearus
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 11:22amI agree that Obama has to be voted out, but I don’t on anything I read in this article. It seems an awfully lot like Obama…. lots of words and no substance. It tells us nothing we haven’t heard over the last 4+ years! “WAS OBAMA AN INDONESIAN CITIZEN? ” Catchy headline, then nothing new in the article.
I don’t believe Obama is a Natural Born Citizen.
I believe him to be Muslim or Muslim leaning.
I believe him to be a Socialist/Marxist.
I believe he hates America and that his desire is to see us fail, thus all the things he has done to destroy our economy and our place in the world!
On these things alone, we cannot have him in office again.
Really, Glenn, You are far better than this tell nothing story!
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cloudsofwar
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 11:23ammy wife and i can’t wait to vote tomorrow. ROMNEY
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nichevo
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 11:31amMy wife and can’t wait to vote tomorrow. Obama!
theaton
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 12:04pmFourth of July picnics with fireworks and apple pie don’t represent American values anymore than the Easter Bunny and Santa Clause represent Christian values. These things do represent what most Americans believe are American and Christian values. At the next Fourth of July picnic or firewroks show go up to strangers and ask them what hte Fourth of July is about. I’m guessing 80% of them won’t be able to tell you. Obama has a good concept of American values. He hates them and is working very hard to destroy them.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 12:34pmHaving grown up with it all his life, lying is just a normal part of life for him.
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TheBlazeeditorialboard
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 12:39pmI’m pretty sure George Washington and Thomas Jefferson didn’t grow up with 4th of July festivities either (not sure about Apple Pie)- where did they get their American values from?
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gbo
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 12:52pmThis country is only doomed if God chooses to abandon it. We can all do a better job of voting, and living our lives accordingly.
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VigilantGuardShark
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 1:17pmObama’s whole life has been built on lies. It’s all he knows and he is a stranger to the Truth. He is a great Deceiver and is unqualified to be in a office such as the President of the US, the last four years are a testiment to that.
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jblaze
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 2:06pmIt is not through Mr. Obama’s black father that he (Obama) was eligible to become the 44th President of the United States of America. It was through the blood-line and heritage of his very white mother that he (Obama) was blessed with this birthright and privilege. For the race card to be constantly used as a dumbing down of anyone asking a question or even speaking in a negative tone toward him, is rather an oxymoron.
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encinom
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 2:21pmSo Mitten’s Magical Mystery Underwear Tour is failing, in come Becky-Poo and the Blaze to raise a 5 year old Birther Legend from the grave.
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neverfinal
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 2:39pmMost of us knew all of this before the 2008 election. We told you about it all and sent you all of this many times. WND News has had all of it. Now you report and go there, a little late now. Or where you to afraid to put out earlier? You laughed at us and belittled us about this?
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jblaze
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 2:43pmencinom
“The Truth Lives Here”, sorry about your luck!
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encinom
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 2:58pmjblaze
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 2:43pm
encinom
“The Truth Lives Here”, sorry about your luck!
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So the Blaze’s tag line is another of Becky-poo’s lies, like fair and balanced over at Fox.
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ArmedPatriot
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 3:35pmThe irony is Lolo Soetero (as portrayed in 2016) was a genuinely good person who believed in free enterprise and capitalism. That’s why Obama and his mother rejected him and hated him. Obama is the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people.
Touching and beautiful and moving as his appeal to VENGEANCE was this weekend, let’s hope he is rejected tomorrow.
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Protoham
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 4:00pmMy family can’t wait till tomorrow to vote:
Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Romney, Obama
Yeah, there is always one, but we still love her!
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armyofnibiru
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 4:54pmmy wife and I can’t wait to vote tomarrow.romney 4 beats 2…romney.
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RepubliCorp
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 7:45pmWord of the day……. charlatan
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johncilbup
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:40pmImpeach Obama, even if he loses
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ishka4me
Posted on November 6, 2012 at 12:47amI would first like to say that I am not a birther conspiracy guy. Next , this has been out there. On Glenn’s show he ridiculed the info on Obama’s past. Joe Arpio put doubt into the legitamacy of birth certificate, ssi card, citizenship and Glenn laughed at it. I would just like to know the truth. Kind of late to this party
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on November 6, 2012 at 1:39amIt is entirely possible that he did in fact attend “Fourth of July Picnics with fireworks and apple pie.” During the four years that he attended school in Indonesia he returned home to Hawaii every summer.
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sillyfreshness
Posted on November 6, 2012 at 2:07amThat’s why he won’t release any of his college applications. He put down he was not a US citizen. Not a big deal though. You don’t need to be an American to be president anymore. Thanks to the commies.
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Jim in Houston
Posted on November 6, 2012 at 8:16amHe said he wanted to be president, I agree just not here, but in some third world sh#t hole like Kenya!
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dadsrootbeer
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:24amThe inexperienced international man of mistruths. Barry, we hardly even know you. Wait a minute, yes we do and thanks for the destruction Mr. Socialist.
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HKS
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:52amThe line that designates his religion explains a lot of his actions. Muslims have exemptions for murder as in Benghazi and all the lies he tells also has provisions in that religion. So from that point of view he uses different standards than most Americans. That standard does not set well with me personally and I think most of this country will have a problem with that. I certainly have a problem with Benghazi.
“Remember Benghazi”
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BehindBlueEyes
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:21am@HKS
I believe the American disaster in Benghazi went down the way it did because the commie in chief is a communist Muslim that’s in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood.
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barber2
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:06amBEHIND: Not sure if the international Obama Lefties actually love the Muslim Brotherhood or if they just hate capitalism/Israel / America more. Hard to figure them out. They are Dysfunctional and hate-filled for sure. NOBAMA 2012
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alrunner58
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:21amAmazing we’re finding this out now. There is so much we don’t know about this mysterious person. After the election when Romney wins I hope there is an all out investigation on who he really is. Also the entire administration needs to be investigated for wrong doing, especially Holder. I want to see these crooks prosecuted and thrown in jail.
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searcher
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:25amactually this has been known for years. Beck ignored it then.
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RSHLUVER
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:50amThis news is four years too late and 16 trillion dollars short.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:47amFYI: GLENN BECK was and is and has been one of the best sources of information and TRUTH. He normally passes along information using the voice/video of the actual person. He is one of the only talking heads who constantly remind their audiences to LOOK IT UP FOR YOURSELF.
SO I guess the game plan today is to knock ROMNEY, RYAN and BECK. You trolls would be more productive watching paint dry.
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wvgirl
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:53amYes, this IS OLD information. As much as I love Glenn and all that he does, I find it interesting that with his incredible research staff that he would wait until the eleventh hour to mention this. He has continually mocked the birthers and wouldn’t touch it. Perhaps thes Blaze staff works independantly from Glenn?? It is perplexing and seems desparate at this point coming from Glenn, if in fact it is him, and not the Blaze staff who decided this was worthy at this late date.
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DOra Glasberg
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:21amAnd this is a “discovery”?
What next, he ate some dish that had dog meat in it?
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corchem
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:36amI agree with you on this, however the old news is that this BHO is a dedicated Marxist / Communist who believes that the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. I mean it is his words.
Did you actually read his book “Dreams from my Father” you know his father, the guy who wrote a paper indicating that taxation at 100% is perfectly acceptable ?
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:49amAnd, DORA, if you are too lazy to actually read the book, it comes in an audio version which is far funnier in 0bama’s own words.
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Walkabout
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:58amDora Gasbag
His citizenship is listed as Indonesian. His religion as Muslim. this matters except to the left. This is the point where the left sticks their fingers in their ears & yells la, la la ,la, …
Which is basically what you are doing.
You post remind me of an infantry tactic I read about the Battle of the Bulge. An American soldier recounted that they were attacked by German infantry who kept coming in waves even though it was futile. They were all gunned down. Given their available equipment & tactics they could not have succeeded. Nevertheless they attacked. He pointed out that the attack did prevent them from lightly manning the line in his area & sending reinforcement to where the Germans did break through.
That was the point of the seemingly futile attacks. It was to keep up the PRESSURE so as to prevent reinforcement being sent to the point of breakthrough.
You comments are like that. They cannot be defended. The point is to send enough trolls to defend the indefensible so as to achieve breakthroughs for the DEMONCAT party elsewhere.
You should be so proud of sacrificing your intellect, dignity & honor for the Democrat party.
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LRC
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:31amPoor Dora, her candidate tells lies. First rule, ignore proof of lies, just keep repeating the lie. Lots of people will still believe the lie.
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DOra Glasberg
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 12:05pmHis father was out of his life at 2 years of age.
Let it go.
What ever happened to D’anish D’pruna?
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Annapurna
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 4:51pmGasbag, haven’t you heard? The marriage to BO senior was for appearances only. When BO Jr was only four weeks old, his mother packed him up and they moved to Seattle, where she attended college. BO senior remained in Hawaii. Sr was NEVER in Jr’s life. A bit more research on the sham that is the life of Barack Obama might be in order.
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formerlyFreedomOverFear
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 7:45pmDora I know youre a woman so I’m going to take it easy on you as you are already mentally handicapped. However, if you were to read the story it’s talking about Obama’s “Step Father” not his biological father. Now go get in the kitchen and bake me a cake you female dog.
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:20amDon’t go over board on this. At the age of 6, my parents filled out everything and told ME what I was. Including that I was christian (I had no personal knowledge of the Lord yet), that I liked liver (yeccch!), hated ice cream & girls (Waaaaaayyyyyy wrong!)…so, don’t read too much into a kids legal forms he had no hand in.
Besides…if it said “Barack Obama, christian, US citizen”…would we like him? I don’t think so.
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Zoe
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:29amExactly-
I was only told I was born at an early age, in a hospital, because I wanted to be near my mom.
My sister said I was hatched on a farm in Alabama-?
Can only one story be possible?
For the life of me I can’t recall what went down that day!
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ares338
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:19amObama will lose tomorrow!
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:09amYes he will…now we have to worry about what he does in his last few weeks. What EO’s will he pass…who will he pardon…who’s sentence will he commute.
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nichevo
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:11amNot bloody likely!! You and Dick Morris are in for a rude surprise late tomorrow night!
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:16am@ nichevo
I suggest you trade your Obama phone in for the classifieds in this sunday’s paper…your free ride is over.
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ADNIL
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 11:01amHey, do those free obumma phones come with free obumma minutes?
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Advection
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:15amOf his parents changed his legal name to Barry S., and he never bothered to change it back to Brack O., does that make all of his subsequent signatures fraudulent? It’s not a small thing.
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kenboo1
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:21amThis is all behind us! Lets work to put it way behind and not make such a One Big Ass Mistake America again…
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Jaimo
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:28amI’m more concerned that if Lolo adopted him and he became an Indonesian citizen and he didn’t lose his American citizenship if he was natural born. I don’t believe he is natural born, one of his parents was not an American citizen, therefore he isn’t natural born and would have to reclaim his American citizenship upon reaching the age of majority making him native born and ineligible to become President.
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kat747
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 6:01pmIt would be interesting to know exactly what his LEGAL name is during his term of President.
You need legal paperwork to change your name. So, for the history books, what is it ?
As for where he was born, there are pictures of a monument in Kenya proudly announcing
his birthplace in Kenya. Were his parents legally married at that point in time ? His father was legally
married to his second wife at the time of the birth. Is there legal paperwork to the marriage
later in Hawaii of his mother and father? His name at the time of birth since he was illegimate
would have been “Dunham” so where are the legal adoption papers changing his name to Obama ?
Then he is adopted by Soetoro, now where are the legal papers changing his name to Soetoro ?
Then he goes to college at Occidental and Columbia under the name “Soetoro”. At what point in time was a legal name change done back to Obama ?
When you are nominated for the Office of President of the USA, your name at the very least should be legal and you have to be a natural born citizen of the USA. The Democratic Nominating Committee is responsible for this paperwork to be legal and in order to prove a person’s right to run for that office.
So now I ask you…..WHERE IS CONGRESS ?
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ShamanWorld
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:15amWhy doesn’t that fat boy Glenn send some of his ****-sniffers to investigate why Cheney ordered F-16′s who could have intercepted the hijacked planes to “stand down”. That would be worth the American people’s attention. Lastly, Obama’s mother is American. That is all I need to know about Obama’s birthright. You “bright” Repubs are really brain dead “NON Patriots”.
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TheePolitinator
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:24amWow, hey Blazers we are Republicans. Pfft NOT!!
Your post is imbecilic, moronic, and in the scheme of things shows why this Nation is where it is.
Go back to Media Matters
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JoanofAmerica
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:26amMy friend is an f16 pilot and they were NOT told to stand down. Not sure where you get your info.
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sndrman
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:26amwow dude/dudeete you’re coming undone?what’s up? getting sick of defending a loser like yourself?open your eyes all we have ever posted is known facts,we’re not like liberal/socialist/communist blogs where the post unknown or unproven stories………..so if the truth is hurting you don’t get upset,JUST LEAVE,DON’T GO AWAY MAD JUST GO AWAY PLEASE GO AWAY………..and yes tell the dnc,obama’s people, you did your job of posting and to send your check…………
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skiz
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:30amMoron speak! All anyone is doing is laughing at you. lol
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338lapua
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:42amPlease take your meds.
Do you need a hug?
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:53amJOANOFAMERICA, He’s getting his info from others posting here saying the same thing. My father in law is former Air Force and a Vietnam vet. He is still in touch with his old buddies and some of the more recent service members who have said the same thing that stand down order never being given.
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ShamanWorld
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:53am@JoanOfAmerica… Cheney ordered the F-16′s that could have been scrambled in 15 minutes from 3 different East coast bases to “stand down”. Our skies are constantly patrolled,but on that day they were nowhere around? That is not a coincidence Joan. Do some research and turn off the tv/radio. If your source wasn’t told to stand down,then why didn’t they intercept the hijacked planes?
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biohazard23
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:58amTruthers are just adorable, aren’t they? Bless your little heart, dear.
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PrzLesu
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:42amAlways the name calling and no facts for you boy? Huffpost is calling, go
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barber2
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:49amSHA: ” fat boy…****-snifters” : Fee, Fi, Fo, Fum : I smell the words of an Obama Lefty ! Such anger..such class…such arrogance …such a blast from the nasty 60s…be gone! NOBAMA 2012
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Apple Bite
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 11:39amYour friend being an F-16 pilot doesn’t mean he was given authority to assist in the situation.
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bluesingincat
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 3:42pmYou read?
U.S. v Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898).
The Supreme Court did not look to the Fourteenth Amendment to define what a “natural born Citizen” is. Rather, both courts said that the meaning of that term must be found by resort to the “common law.” First, they show that there is a difference between a Fourteenth Amendment “citizen” and an Article II “natural born Citizen.” What do both of these Supreme Court decisions tell us? First, they show that there is a difference between a Fourteenth Amendment “citizen” and an Article II “natural born Citizen.” If the two terms were the same, the Supreme Court in both of these cases would not have said that the meaning of a “natural born Citizen” is not contained in the Constitution, for the Fourteenth Amendment was already part of the Constitution and the Court could have easily said that the definition of a “natural born Citizen” is contained right in the Fourteenth Amendment. Second, the Supreme Court in both of these cases also said that the meaning of an Article II “natural born Citizen” is not contained in the Constitution but rather in the “common law.” Here we have clear evidence that the United States Supreme Court itself has recognized that the Fourteenth Amendment does not define what an Article II “natural born citizen” means.
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eyesopened
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:15amonce AGAIN (rewrite history)….Natural Born Citizen is CONFUSED with a Citizen or a Naturalized Citizen
I do not give a crap where he was born….his father was NOT any kind a citizen of the United States of America ….so he is NOT a natural born citizen
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JoanofAmerica
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:26amExactly!
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DivisionByZero
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:14amAn interesting video to watch is called “Dreams from my real father”. I can’t personally tell you if everything in it is accurate but it makes an interesting case that Frank Marshall Davis may be Obamas real father. Watch and decide for yourself. If nothing else it is entertaining. It’s available on Netflix and Amazon Prime.
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ScreaminEagle
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:14amUnder the Constitution he is still not a “natural born citizen” ie Law of Nations (Vattel).
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floridareader
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:44amWorld Net Daily (WND) has been putting out this info since 2008 and just like other sites were called birthers, racists, bigots, etc.
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Erkel
Posted on November 6, 2012 at 2:44amI agree. The article is mostly irrelevant information that has been reported previously.
The birthplace (location) of an individual is not what’s important. It’s the citizenship of BOTH parents at the time of the birth. Both parents must be U.S. citizens (by any of the legal methods). Don’t know why people (TheBlaze, Bill O’Reilly, others) don’t get that.
Obama could have been born in the Lincoln bedroom in the White House and still not be ‘natural born’ citizen because his father was not a U.S. citizen (even though his mother was).
On the other hand, a child of my wife and myself, could be born on that big square thing in the middle of Mecca and it still would be a ‘natural born’ U.S. citizen because my wife and I are both citizens.
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louise
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:14am“You will no longer remember the oracle of the LORD, because every man’s own word will become the oracle, and you have perverted the words of the Living God, the Lord of hosts, our God.” ~ Jeremiah 24:36
This liar in the White House expects Americans to be tolerant and accepting of all things. After all that is the pc way of the world. To tolerate all things is to stand for nothing.
We can read this also in the book of Jeremiah~~~ “Is not My Word like fire?” declares the LORD, “And like a hammer that shatters a rock?”
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ricckky
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:13amIt was not put to bed creep–that’s just the point you idiot—Can’t wait to see you cry tomorrow night when Mitt wins by a LANDSLIDE STUPID!!!!
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Small World
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:12amIt’s a little late now.
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biohazard23
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:12amHe’s still a putz.
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kickagrandma
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:12amNice piece of investigative journalism. Well done. We could have a REAL REPORTER/JOURNALIST here, AMERICA.
Thank you, BLAZE and thank you, Charles Johnson!
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Stoic one
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:43amAmen.
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jackact
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:12amThere are many questions that will be answered in the future about Obama.
Including his proof of US citizenship (No, Indonesian), college transcritpts (D-), relationships with convicted terrorists (Weather Underground) and communist indoctrination (Frank Marshall).
She he remain in office then the treason of Benghazi-Gate and the political manipulation of the 2nd amendment (Fast & Furious) will be answerable to “We the People” and our constitutional law.
Either way Obama will be revealed.
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1217chic
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:11amEither way…….Pack your bags imposter, you are history…….
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Ponyexpress
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:09amSlice it and dice it anyway you want, this man is not an American in values, ideiology or interest.
Too late, and we the people elected him…Shame on us and the organizations that did not insist on vetting him.
Let us only pray that we vote him out decisively tomorrow, and hold congress and the “4th estate” accountable.
I believe many are guilty of breaking their oath of office and some, even traitors.
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Hanner
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:26amAt this place in time it doesn’t matter with only 1 day left. Whoever is still undecided is just brain dead or so apathetic it won’t matter to them anyways. A lot of people don’t learn their lesson until they get burned really good by a horrific choice in their life. This learning lesson has been painful for everyone, especially for those that did not vote for this evil man. Tomorrow is the day to learn from a terrible mistake and correct a horrific wrong done to this country.
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Jenasus
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:08amIf Barry was a natural born American citizen than he would release his records.
Since Barry will not release his records he is hiding the truth of his past, present and future life.
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dylan
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:06amThe Ring, the Ring. Says it all.
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golfer8805
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:18amYou evidently believe every silly chain-emial that you receive. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/weddingring.asp
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HYPNOTOAD
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 11:59amHe GOLFER8805, SNOPES has been exposed as a leftist tool. Every time you lefties quote it, you show you are a liberal troll. Nice try.
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saranda
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 12:36pmAre you sure gb wasn’t translating the ring through a hat? TheBlaze sure missed the boat on that one.
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golfer8805
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 1:08pm@hypnotoad. Regardless whether or not you trust snopes, look at the pictures. They show squiggles, not Arabic text. This is simply a ridiculous, pathetic conspiracy theory, but keep making your tin foil hats if it makes you feel better.
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mike551
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:06amNow.. now? You should have been there 5 yrs ago.
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mikem1969
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:24amIt would not have done any good back then, the lame stream media would have covered it up, just as they have covered for his failures over the last 4 years, and just as they are covering his **** on the Lybia terrorist attack. This election is unfortuneately in the bag for him because of all the union members, activist groups, NAACP groups, and U.N. groups getting in the way of our election and no one is doing anything about them. If this were a republican, things would be burning up the air waves. I TRULY BELIEVE THE TIME HAS COME TO USE THE RIGHTS OUR FOUNDING FATHERS GAVE US, it will soon be our only option left.
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Mia Cav
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:27amGlenn, Rush, Hannity, Levin – they were *all* on it 5 years ago.
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Greenmanilishi
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:03amIts a shame but nobody really cares. You could have a video of Obama killing babies and puppies and the mainstream press would not care, But They would wear one out of Romney’s dog in a cage on the roof of a car.
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forthepeople
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:23amThat blows my mind too … remember how they treated Dan Quyale and he is a rocket scientist next to Ol Joe . My wife is younger and thus was turned democrat in college and drinks the kool-aid daily .I say Words and Actions , who’s all words and who is action? IE: Chartable giving Romney 14% of gross vs the whole President and cabinet is under 5% . They love to spend other peoples money .
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barber2
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:17amTHE source of this disjunction ? The MSM which is a propaganda outlet for the international Left. Soros knew where to place his big bucks. Media Matters and George knows just like Goebbels knew !
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bannedfromCNN
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:00amLittle Barry Soetoro – international ‘man of mystery’.
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barber2
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:15amBanned: emphasis on international rather than on American….unfortunately for us. NOBAMA 2012
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Bobby D
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 7:58amOnly God will, now, hold this fool to answer, and save America!
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:36amAmen.
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whywonder
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 12:53pmSnowblow sure is on top of every story. When are you going to leave mommies basement?
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Proud Stray Dog
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:26pm@WhyWonder:
You first. It’s a cruel, nasty world here in reality. Might want to stay on mom’s basement. You might get a bad case of whoopass.
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SoiledDove
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 7:56amI think the more important question is this: Why waste your time on this story? This whole thing was put to bed LONG ago. Do you ever get tired of sharing useless information?
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ThomasUSA
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:12amI believe we should know the truth about all public officials… Will this tid-bit make any difference? Who knows…. But I applaud the Blaze for exposing all they can about this President. I think he is a danger to this nation and the more he is exposed the more people will understand why.
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KE_in_IA
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:13amThe only time information is “useless” is when no one can learn something from it.
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raderby
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:19amuseless? hardly.
how about the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
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joeslick
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:23amIt is usless now, because enough bed wetting dumb masses voted this POS into office four years ago. That damage is done. Hopefully tho, enough people have been awaked to the truth and will arise to stop any further damage.
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Jenasus
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:30amWith Barry it is lies, all lies and nothing but lies.
Blaze, Can you find out who’s social security card Barack is using now?
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Stoic one
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 8:37amOh Gee.We know Bush was an alcoholic,had crappy grades in college, joined the reserves to stay out of Vietnam,when is daughters first started drinking, on and on..
Yet we know very little about Bathhouse Barry. mainly because ‘folks’ like you dismiss it as old news. If this were old news, the Blaze would not bother doing the research.
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barber2
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 9:13amSOILED previously stated that the American people love to give their tax dollars to PBS , that Far Left propaganda outlet !? Talk about ” useless information.” This dove is more than soiled ….
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Deane
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 11:31amHmmm that mosque located at the Besuki school in Indonesia sure looks like a madrasa . I can see Barry’s cute little face, squatting with his koran…swaying back and forth chanting “death to Jews death to America”
such wonderful childhood memories for him I’m sure
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