6 (Potential) Reasons Romney Lost the 2012 Presidential Election
Judging from responses and chatter on social media and television analysis, a plethora of Republicans are still in shock following President Barack Obama’s convincing re-election victory. And considering the high hopes that they had for a Mitt Romney upset, who can blame them?
Naturally, in the wake of the 2012 election’s conclusion, many are wondering what led to the stark defeat that will grant Obama another four years to refine his agenda. Today, CNN published a thought-provoking list of potential reasons why Romney lost the election. Let’s do a little Monday morning quarterbacking shall we?

US President Barack Obama celebrates with First Lady Michelle Obama on stage on election night in Chicago on November 6, 2012. Obama swept to re-election, forging history again by transcending a slow economic recovery and the high unemployment which haunted his first term to beat Republican Mitt Romney. Credit: AFP/Getty Images
While some may dismiss these notions, each may have had, to some degree, an impact on the electoral turnout and subsequent results:
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1. Romney Lost Out Big Among Youth People
The Republican presidential candidate struggled mightily to capture the youth vote. CNN claims that he “lost embarrassingly” among this important cohort. The Washington Post explains:
Younger voters and minorities came to the polls at levels not far off from the historic coalition Obama assembled in 2008. The reality caught off-guard Republicans who banked on a more monolithic voting body sending them to the White House — and who had based their polling on that assumption.
The outcome revealed a stark problem for Republicans: If they don’t broaden their tent, they won’t move forward.
As for the youth vote (individuals 18 to 29), the cohort represented 19 percent of all those who voted. And according to one exit poll, while Obama captured 60 percent of this group, Romney purportedly only took 36 percent.
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2. Romney Failed to Court Minorities
Much like the youth vote, minorities overwhelmingly chose Obama at the polls. And considering that they came out en force, just as they did in 2008, many projections were wrong. Consider politico Dick Morris, who incorrectly predicted that Romney would win in a landslide.
Morris’ explanation surrounding why his proclamations were wrong helps to explain why the GOP candidate (considering the party’s inability to, thus far, appeal to minorities) lost the 2012 election:
The key reason for my bum prediction is that I mistakenly believed that the 2008 surge in black, Latino, and young voter turnout would recede in 2012 to “normal” levels. Didn’t happen. These high levels of minority and young voter participation are here to stay. And, with them, a permanent reshaping of our nation’s politics.
In 2012, 13% of the vote was cast by blacks. In 04, it was 11%. This year, 10% was Latino. In ’04 it was 8%. This time, 19% was cast by voters under 30 years of age. In ’04 it was 17%. Taken together, these results swelled the ranks of Obama’s three-tiered base by five to six points, accounting fully for his victory.
I derided the media polls for their assumption of what did, in fact happen: That blacks, Latinos, and young people would show up in the same numbers as they had in 2008. I was wrong. They did.
So, there you have it. The minority vote came out strong for Obama again in 2012.
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3. Hurricane Sandy Interrupted Romney’s Trajectory
While some have dismissed claims that Hurricane Sandy did, indeed, bring with it unintended political fallout, Romney appeared to be on a positive trajectory before the storm hit. Considering the media’s understandable focus on Sandy and its aftermath, there was naturally less time to explore electoral prospects.
And with Obama responding, at least in appearances and statements in a presidential capacity, there was little Romney could do to attain relevant media attention (some may even blame New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie for his vocal support of the president, which certainly didn’t help).
“After being criticized in the media for focusing on ‘small things’ like Big Bird and ‘Romnesia,’ Sandy offered Obama a chance to once again look presidential,” CNN writes.
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4. “Squishy” Positions? Some Conservatives Blame the Candidate
It didn’t take long for some conservatives to begin pointing the finger at Romney, claiming that his “squishy” positions on social issues like abortion and same-sex marriage may have negatively impacted him. After all, Romney essentially “evolved” on the abortion issue, at one point taking a more pro-choice view, later — before running for president — transitioning to a pro-life framework.

US Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and his wife Ann wave after Romney conceded defeat to President Barack Obama on November 7, 2012 in Boston. Obama swept to re-election, forging history again by transcending a slow economic recovery and the high unemployment which haunted his first term to beat Republican Mitt Romney. Credit: AFP/Getty Images
But people are entitled to changing their minds on controversial issues, no? While the aforementioned claims may not be the problem, it’s quite possible that Romney didn’t hammer home his social conservatism hard enough among members of his base.
“What was presented as discipline by the Romney campaign by staying on one message, the economy, was a strategic error that resulted in a winning margin of pro-life votes being left on the table,” Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the pro-life group Susan B. Anthony List, told CNN.
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5. Obama’s Strong Ground Game
Last month, TheBlaze highlighted four signs that Obama might win the 2012 presidential election. Among the information presented, we highlighted the president’s stellar efforts on the ground in key states. As we reported on October 19:
Polls illustrate only a portion of the story. What happens on the ground in politics is also telling. And with weeks remaining in the election cycle, every second counts. From registering voters to educating the electorate about what’s to come, both campaigns have both opportunities — and plenty of room for error — along the way.
While the race is far from over and groundwork is only a piece of the overall battle, in a POLITICO report last week, Obama campaign field director Jeremy Bird said that grassroots outreach is more-than-healthy. In fact, he claims that the numbers and the outreach are better than they were in 2008, a potentially-troubling sign, if true, for the Romney camp.

CHICAGO, IL – NOVEMBER 06: U.S. President Barack Obama stands on stage with first lady Michelle Obama, U.S. Vice President Joe Biden and Dr. Jill Biden after his victory speech on election night at McCormick Place November 6, 2012 in Chicago, Illinois. Obama won reelection against Republican candidate, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney. Credit: Getty Images
In Ohio, Virginia and Florida, Obama had, by far, more field offices than did Romney — just one sign of structural issues (or, at least, a weaker ground game) for the GOP candidate. Today, CNN framed the discussion with the following information: “Democrats showed decisively that their ground game — the combined effort to find, persuade and turn out voters — is devastatingly better than anything their rivals have to offer.”
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6. Was Paul Ryan the Wrong Choice for Vice-President?
It’s no secret that some have wondered whether Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan was the wrong choice for vice-president. While many conservatives admire his technical mind and his ability (and willingness) to confront complex issues like Medicare, some critics have wondered whether choosing someone from a more contested battleground state would have been a better option.
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Read the complete analysis over at CNN.com.
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RavenGlenn
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:02pmKnow why he lost the youth vote? There’s a handful of major reasons:
1. Anti-gay marriage stance. I’m sorry, but gays are out now. Everyone in youth knows a bunch of gay folks and know they are decent people that just want to live their lives like everyone else. While you might disagree with their choice, the youth as a whole is perfectly fine with them.
2. Mitt’s declerations to defund Planned Parenthood. The problem here is that most young and poor women use Planned Parenthood to get their birth control. Without being able to get their birth control for free from PP, they simply cannot afford to get it. This is a HUGE reason why the women vote was lost.
3. Entitlements: This one just hurts. The youth want free stuff. Period. I don’t know how we change this.
4. Fighting taxes on the rich: While anyone with half a brain in their head knows that taxing the rich is not going to fix anything, the youth don’t understand this. College is putting them in MASSIVE debt and they don’t see it as fair for them to be so far in the whole while really rich people complain about paying more. I think the only way to fix this is to go after colleges and force the tuition prices to come down.
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AvengerK
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:11pmAround 7:00 pm EST last night BIll O’Reilly summed it up:
“The people want stuff — they like politicians to tell them they can have stuff.”
The GOP has to close the empathy gap that the Democrats exploit shamelessly.
Being technicians with the debt and deficit are essential but they can’t come across as technicians they must become therapists to the public instead while being technicians at work in office. Lines like “the poor, immigration, the needy, the infirmed” must come into the vocabularly the same way the democrats use them.
We can do this without compromising our principals but a change of trajectory is needed.
It can be done.
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BODYBAG
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:13pmEverything you’ve stated here revolves around YOUTH.
You have kids?
An 18 year-old’s mind isnt developed enough to take care of their own hygene much less
responsibility for other people’s lives.
Ive come to think that the collapse is now the only way. When you have to learn to survive
in the wilderness, starve, scavange, find shelter, etc. That will be a big priority reset and
a truly humbling experience for several generations of soft, weak, spoiled rotten people.
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airborneoathkeeper
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:14pmIt’s all about the peoples need for someone elses stuff……we as a country are done. The Republic is gone and now we are going to have to decide to either join the party or we can fight it. You can’t force people to be free if they choose not to and that was put to rest last night. There is not going to be a resurgence in the Tea Party’s nor is there going to be much resistance from the House of Representives. Hey, think about this; we’re all watching history unfold and we all will have a front row seat with popcorn and drink in hand to witness the fall of the American Republic.
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3monkeysmomma
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:15pmThe GOP lost “the youth vote” (a.k.a. “the Paulies”) because it went out of its own way to deliberately alienate them! The future GOP leaders are changing their party affiliations to “libertarian” or “Constitutional” as we speak.
We can find room in our “big tent” for gays, progressives and pro-amensty so=called “conservatives”…but sound money, non-interventionists are unwelcomed? REALLY?
justangry
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:17pmPeople want freedom. You can blame on people wanting stuff, but I don’t think that’s it. For some reason they think Obama is less of a monster in this regard than Romney. They’re actually identical. That being said, if Romney embraced the liberty movement he probably would have won.
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justangry
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:19pm@3monkeys, You forgot liberty lovers. We’re some evil SOB’s wanting freedom and rights.
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AvengerK
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:20pmRAVENGLENN…I’m sorry but the homosexual marriage thing is a minor issue. Futhermore..it can be manipulated. Instead of worrying about homosexual marriage the GOP candidates should begin talking about the disproportionately high incidences of HIV, syphillis and gonhorrea among homosexuals and how giving them the means to afford their healthcare without sending the entire country bankrupt or taxing everyone is a humane thing to do for all concerned.
It’s easy…”let’s have an honest discussion” is the opening line…being homosexual doesn’t make you less of a human being but it does come with some serious risks and having the ability to deal with them is important. You see? All of a sudden you’re not “anti gay”.
Another facet of this is wrestling control of the media away from the left I cannot stress this strongly enough. A great deal of the “acceptance” of homosexuality has to do with the constant portrayal of homosexuals as “normal” on television and other media. The reality of homosexuality has to be stated also…diseases, high incidences of depression..etc. The GOP has an “empathy” gap which can be closed without having one stop being conservative or libertarian.
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AvengerK
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:25pmBODYBAG…the greater concern isn’t “the youth” vote. Its’ the hispanic vote. Florida is mostly red but there’s enough “blue” enclaves with populous numbers of hispanic voters to negate that. This is what happened last night. The only way this is addressed is to identify districts with these dynamicsm, find the Marco Rubios of the party and get them elected there…at the local level. They’ll see the results for themselves and stop believing the lofty idealism of liberals like Obama.
Obama didn’t get as much of the youth vote this time around and I assure you…get the hispanic vote in your pocket and the youth vote will be even smaller for the democrats. This doesnt’ mean amnesty. It means giving them candidates that speak directly to them and get results in their communities. It can be done.
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hauschild
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:30pmIf we have to pander to these worthless slugs, I’d rather lose the election every time.
It’s about leadership – not fellowship.
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3monkeysmomma
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:31pm@ Bodybag…bullcrap!
At 18 I had already been on my own for more than two years, was working two jobs and going to college full-time and was very aware of what was going on in the world around me. Thinking like that is WHY we lost the youth vote.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:31pmThere are roughly 238 Million people over 18 in the US. For the POTUS election there were about 118 Million votes cast (49.5%). Obama got 60 and Romney got 58. So where did they come from? In the US there are 50M on government assistance such as food stamps. 23M work for the government in a non-military role. 12M more union members outside of government. We also know that only 85 million people had federal tax liability in 2011 on their returns per the IRS and only 150M people actually had any federal tax exposure to begin with. That leaves 88M that had no federal tax liability of voting age. So let’s start breaking it down.
Of the 88M that had no federal tax liability let’s assume 80% are democrat and 50% turnout. That’s 32M votes Obama and 8.8M for Romney.
Now we have the 150M to divvy up. We know that 23 work for the govt. and 12 are union. So let’s take them off the top and say our 80% rule with 50% turnout again. That’s 17.5M votes for Obama and 3.5M for Romney. We are now up to 49.5 for Obama and 12.3 for Romney. That takes our 150M down to 115M. We know that 50% voted so that leaves 57.5M to allocate (roughly). We know Obama got 60M so that means he got 18% of the private sector producer vote and Romney got 79.4%.
He lost because there aren’t enough producers in the USA. That and the fact he’s a RINO.
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RANGER1965
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:35pm“The problem with socialism is that you eventually
run out of other people’s money.”
- Margaret Thatcher
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:49pmAll of the problems with the youth that are described in this article could have been solved with the ideas that Ron Paul and Gary Johnson represent.
-Government has no business knowing who is gay
-Government has no Constitutional authority telling a state which drugs should be illegal
-Everyone should be taxed at the same percentage (flat tax or fair tax)….Currently, rich people avoid lots of taxes through loopholes in the tax code
-College is expensive because government is too involved in higher education. Government has put up bariers to new educational systems in order to preserve the current brick and mortar colleges. Remove the subsidies and remove the barriers to new education systems
-No more unnecessary wars
Do those things and many of our current problems are solved. In addition, you get a new wave of freedom loving supporters.
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DOra Glasberg
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:54pmI believe one major factor wasn’t mentioned above -
Any affiliation with a) the Republican party, + b) Tea Party + c) Norquist. = TOXIC.
Despite polls suggesting other wise, there was an 18 point gender gap.
Romney was the “I’m going to close/defund Planned Parenthood guy.
He and Pauly were on some level Santorum lite.
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Freebird
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 5:10pmThe other reason Romney lost was he didn’t go after the dead people’s vote!
I’ll bet it was 100% Obama there.
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IOUQuidProQuo
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 5:11pmBesides the obvious fact that Romney is a RINO, he failed to articulate or inspire anybody. The election boiled down again to choosing the lesser of TWO Evils. 52% choose the most Evil POTUS.
Romney failed to “Touch the Hearts and Minds” of the Youth Vote, and he did not inspire the Youth. Youth, by and large, do not want to take responsibility of “paying the bills,” but want all the creature comforts of home.
Another issue, with @10 States in play, Voter Fraud may have played a role. #VoterTurnOut LT 30% + #VoterFraud+ SCYTL > Spain Software Co ttl #ElectoralCollegeVotes = #FRAUD #FreedomWorks #LNYHBT http://www.westernjournalism.com/spanish-company-will-count-american-votes-overseas-in-november/
When the Spanish online voting company SCYTL bought the largest vote processing corporation in the United States, it also acquired the means of manufacturing the outcome of the 2012 election. For SOE, the Tampa based corporation purchased by SCYTL in January, supplies the election software which records, counts, and reports the votes of Americans in 26 states–900 total jurisdictions–across the nation.
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AvengerK
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 5:19pmNo GASBAG…the ‘major factor” was the media’s covering and elevating Obama while attacking his enemies.
Every utterance from Romney was scrutinized and demagogued to make him as unpalatable as possible. The media constantly and unfairly tied him to people Todd Akin. Getting over the propaganda wall of the American media who now actively work wiht the democrats is a tall order.
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enzomedici
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 5:20pmPretty much dead on and I would add Mitt’s anti-abortion stance. The GOP needs to reverse its stance on abortion and gay marriage if there is ever to be a GOP president again. Society has shifted to supported these positions, but the religious right of the GOP have not and will not, but there will never be another GOP president if they keep these views, trust me. This election should have been about Obama’s record and the economy, but Obama won on social issues. Plus, the GOP pretended like Ron Paul didn’t exist and did everything in their power to alienate him and his supporters when they should have adopted some of his positions and included him. How did that work out for them? The GOP leadership needs to resign and party leaders need to step down or the GOP will become a minority regional party doomed to the dustbin of history.
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VRW Conspirator
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 5:37pmThis is all BULL SPIT….all the CNN or FOX or MSLSD analysis is BULL SPIT…they are all political insiders and beltway boys and they still think in the old models…
It was SIMPLE…it was NUMBERS!!
We had LOWER turnout than in 2008 and the GOP was counting on 2010 numbers….only 118 million voters….that is pathetic….LESS than HALF of the America people decided to cast a ballot in the most important election since 1980….LOSERS…America gets what she deserves because her people have become complacent whiners…
Obama and the DNC only focused on the swing states…only going to CA or NY or NV to pick up LARGE checks from their richie rich donors….and it worked…he pulled minorities and youth on par with the 2008 numbers and that was the 5-6% that he won by in 2008…but he lost a LOT of Democrats that are older that couldn’t bring themselves to vote for him again and ALL the GOP that crossed over last time…hence the only 2% win this time….
Romney spent time in some states that he shouldn’t have been in and went too late to some states like PA and WI and MN that he probably COULD have won…Romney pulled less total votes than John McCain but got a bigger percentage of those that voted…
30 million unregistered…14 million unregistered Evangelicals…that would break 60-40 for Romney which would have put us at a 50-50 split but pushed us over in key states like PA and OH…
JUST NUMBERS!!
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RobbieTLHughie
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 5:41pmThe youth vote wasn’t big enough alone to win Obama the election, so partially you’re incorrect already.
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 6:00pmthe real reason Obama won is simple schoolyard politics…
Obama= cool….. Romney= nerd.. when is it ever not this way?
Going backwards…
Bush2= cool …. Gore, Kerry= nerds.
Clinton=cool …. Dole, Bush1= geeky
Bush1= not nerdy (yet)…. Dukakis= total dork
Reagan= way cool… Carter, Mondale= weenies
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Individualism
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 6:47pm1. Hes was a progressive
2. His voters lied cheated and stole things
3. He couldn’t show how he was different than Bush or Obama
4. He was a bought and paid for puppet
5.His platform was trash and no good for America.
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deloclem
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 7:21pmWhy not just give everybody a free college education? Hell, the government can pay for it! They are paying for everything else!
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cbrown
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 9:10pmUse some common sense: If people want stuff then why did the same folks vote for Republicans in 2010? What changed in 2 years? The answers are obvious but you will not get if you are in the echo chamber.
The smart republicans are already strategizing how to win back in 2016.
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Constantine Ivanov
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 10:00pm@RAVENGLENN:
Two short comments:
1. Youth is what we the adults make out of our babies.
2. Birth control costs max. $100 a year…unless you copulate non-stop 24/7 and do nothing else.
And of course, there is a very old method to avoid unwanted pregnancy: don’t spread legs before every second (maybe, even every first?) man on the street. It’s called “to be a decorous decent woman” (aka “not to be a slut”)
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Constantine Ivanov
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 10:52pm@CBROWN:
Where were smart republicans during the election cycle 2011-2012?
Why did smart republicans allow stupid republicans to prang up the great chance to get rid of the obama (abbrev., stands for Organized Bastards And Marxist Agitators)
Does the number of republican idiots exceeds the number of smart republicans?
Why do you then rely on smart republicans in 2016?
If non-stop lying Dems managed to outplay Republicans, it means there is a very serious problem with the latter.
“Never blame cockroaches for them being cockroaches; blame yourself for letting them infest your house” – Constantine Ivanov invented while witnessing America’s Fall from Grace -;)
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cbrown
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 11:05pm@Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
I hope you know that your math assumptions are wrong. Food Stamp numbers include kids, No federal tax liability folks include elderly, student, members of military, …
A interesting stat: Two ethnic groups that have the highest per capita income, rarely qualify for government handouts, many entrepreneurs, .. votes 70+% for Obama. They are Jews and Asians who make up 5% of the voters.Why?
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gradstudent
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:34amAVERGERK – the media did not unfairly tie Romney people like Akin. Romney did that all on his own. Romney did not, like many other Republicans, call for Akin to drop out of the race. Then there’s Mourdoch (sp?), the other r@p3 guy, who was the only candidate, besides himself, who Romney made a TV add for and refused to pull. And don’t forget Trump, who made ridiculous statements throughout the campaign season, that Romney also freely associated with. Was Romeny linked to a few unhelpful people? Sure, but, as I said, he did that to himself.
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PointBreak
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 5:35amLets lay blame where blame lies; The GOP. They ran a RINO when the country desperately needed a conservative and they **** on the Ron Paul people. THAT’S WHY HE LOST. Pure and simple.
We’ve also got to stop this ‘more takers than makers’ sound bite thats making its way into the vernacular. Conservatives are NOT the minority – conservative candidates ARE. Mitt Romney is a RINO and conservative radio backed this clown. It’s time to flush the toilet and change the guard. ALL of you – Rush, Hannity, Beck, Ingraham, Savage – ALL NEED TO GO. We have to blame the GOP and it’s supporters or else we’re gonna end up running John Kerry as a republican in 2016. “John Kerry is a conservative? Well Rush says he is so I guess I’ll march off the cliff with the rest of the lemmings…what do you mean ‘Biden won’???”
Romney couldn’t even take his home town against the worst president in history. Need I say more???
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harrysmallcraft
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 5:51amIf Obama’s Sandy performance had any effect on the election result, then we have major problems in this country that go way beyond losing n election. Read fresh political commentary at: http://smallcraftadvisorychronicles.blogspot.com/
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Palter
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 7:30amThe problem was not Romney per se. He’s a decent guy who probably would be better in managing the economy. The problem is the fringe right wingers that force him to be the person he’s not (read: severe conservative that Dems tried to label him). If Romney ran as himself (moderate centrist), he would probably won.
Repubs have been hijacked by people like Murdoch, Akin, Sharron Angle, West, etc… who’s self destroying loud mouth deferring the attention on economy and gave enough bullet for Dems to ridicule Repus and its candidate. And topping it with fear mongering, void of intelligent, science rejecting lot like Rush, Palin, Beck, Hannity, driving independence (mostly centrist) Americans to vote for Obama.
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Rick Steele
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 7:47am7. Romney failed to appear on national talk shows, such as Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh. John McCain got more votes in 2008 than mitt did this week…that’s the Limbaugh Effect. If you fail to use all the tools in your kit, you loose.
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:00amRICK…. Rush doesn’t have guests on his show… ever. It’s just him and the callers.
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black9897
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:15am@SOY
Exactly.
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cybersecurity1
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:15pmYou are so right with the what you said.
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pap pap
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:02pmRomney wasn’t my choice but I have a lot of respect for him as a man after I got to know him better. Next time why don’t we counter with Allen West and Marco Rubio. Solid young conservatives which would help tremendously with the black and hispanic vote as well as work well with the Tea Party and rich white guys. I wish I was one of them.
Also having the convention so late was a terrible idea. The candidates beat each other up too long when Obama should have been the one getting beaten up. Mitt didn’t go after Obummer in the 2nd two debates like he should have. Mitt was too nice a guy when we needed someone with the tenacity of Newt to put him in his place and call him better on Beghazi and Afganistan, etc, etc, etc.
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Mutiny
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:47pmOr no.
Both of them have voted the raise the debt ceiling and supported bills that take away freedoms like the NDAA.
The GOP runs them out there next them it will be another defeat. We need to moving towards the Constitution not towards the Democrats.
justangry
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 5:12pmBy thinking Rubio or West would be good choices next time around tells me you didn’t learn a thing last night. They carry the same baggage as Mitt.
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 5:49pmJUST…
you got that right… except theirs is suede and Mitt’s is imported Kangaroo leather ;)
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Atomic
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:00pmMitt got less votes than John McCain did in ’08… Its hard to believe, but the republicans actually picked a worse candidate that McCain. The republicans picked a North East LIBERAL/progressive to run against a socialist… The far left was energized, the far right AND ESPECIALLY THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT were less than thrilled.
Because of a weak candidate (AGAIN), the republicans lost to a president that had 8% unemployment and deficits all up and down the economy, with a gun running scandals to the mexican drug cartel, and military scandal… + obama had about 9million less votes that ’08.
So next time, lets not try to out liberal that party by choosing a horrible watered down candidate that has more in common with democrats and will alienate major segments of the base. Lets work on repairing the base (lots of work to do there) instead to chasing votes YOU WILL NEVER GET.
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BODYBAG
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:05pm@ATOMIC
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:00pm
So next time
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I hate to be the one to break this to you but there isnt one.
Unless drastic measures are taken its all gone now. Done.
Roger & Out
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:06pmThey keep being told exactly what you say, and they keep ignoring it. You see, they’re so much smarter than the “base” that they continue to ignore and belittle at the country club.
The GOP is dead at the national level.
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Mutiny
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:18pmI completely agree the GOP picked a worse candidate than McCain. No one with conservative values could get excited about Romney. He is not and never will be a conservative. You Romney people should be blamed for this. We warned you to get rid of him because he was unelectable.
If we are lucky enough to have elections in 2016, you might want to start listening to the tea party and libertarians.
I voted with my principles and loved it yesterday. I wasnt going to feel good about who won yesterday regardless but my mind is free and clear. I will never bend my principles again like I did in 2008.
Where are all the asshats like time2end,
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3monkeysmomma
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:23pmThere won’t be a next time.
The Neocon geezers are dying off and the GOP establishment have run off the young conservatives who supported Ron Paul.
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phatman59
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:31pmIn my little town in WPA heart of the 9th Cong district at my polling station the following was posted as results. POTUS Obama 55, Romney 33, Undervote 181…what the heck, guess PA will soon have “none of the above.” Maybe we should look at the undervote numbers and that will clear the picture for a 2016 Tea Party Candidate cause the Repubs screwed up. The two party system ain’t workin’. Remember lastnight you went to bed a citizen, and woke up a servant!
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DOra Glasberg
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 5:00pmThe Tea Party turned the GOP into extemists – plain and simple.
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 5:45pmDORA..
“The Tea Party turned the GOP into extemists – plain and simple.”
Actually.. it’s not that simple..
The MSM turned the Tea Party into perceived extremists…
only after..
The GOP and the religious right co-opted the Tea Party…
The Tea Party had an identity crisis at the worst possible time…
They were Libertarian (past tense).. hardly extremist.
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Frodo RinosBane
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:59pmI was always struck by the way Romney sounded presidential when juxtaposed with Obama. Obama, in turn, still looks and sounds like a petulant child who loves to get crowds worked into a frenzied riot, a rabble-rouser. The 50%+1 day has come and Americans would rather have a “cool” president than one who knows anything worth talking about. Funny, Barry throws like a girl, but they still think he’s great. We have a different set of people out there today. Romney was no Reagan, but I’m thinking Reagan would have lost to the Chancellor, too.
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Capitalist Mama
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 9:17pmOf course he would have lost. Obama isn’t playing fair. Anyone notice how the last polling stations to send in totals are ALL democratic strongholds? Anyone notice how after the last conservative strongholds send in vote totals, the democratic polling places send theirs in quickly? Or how about how more than a million votes have been added to Obama’s total today, but none to Romney’s total?
“Lost” ballots are being filled out as fast as the democrats can, until they steal the election.
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BODYBAG
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:58pmCongratulations, American Voting Public…Here Is What YOU Voted For Yesterday
http://www.redstate.com/apaguy/2012/11/07/congratulations-american-voting-public-here-is-what-you-voted-for-yesterday/
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
YOU asked for this, voting public.
YOU left the country in darkness for four more long years.
YOU put your trust in a left-wing radical who hates what made America the greatest nation on Earth…a radical who will turn this country into a larger-than-life replica of Greece. You think there are spoiled brats in Greece crying because they aren’t getting their free taxpayer-funded goodies? Wait until unsustainable becomes reality in this country and our debt-to-GDP ratio buries our economy…watch what happens when the spoiled brats who sent Obama back to the White House throw their tantrums. The riots will make the Vietnam War protests look like a picnic.
Most of all, YOU, American voting public, and YOU ALONE will be held responsible for what America becomes. When businesses begin paring down their workforces or closing their doors…when the food becomes so expensive that your massively-devalued dollar can no longer pay for it…when China replaces the U.S as the premier economic power and the yuan replaces the dollar as the world’s reserve currency.
When these things come to pass, I want YOU, the American public, to remember that YOU were responsible for this devolution.
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chips1
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:11pmYou are in fact partially correct. The part that you left out was the part about the public not being the ones that selected Romney. The politicians choose whom we were permitted to vote for. Also Obama used our tax money to give free things to the lazy leaches of society. He in fact stopped the guarding of our borders in order to allow more illegals to vote. He covered all of the bases using every evil means within his muslim regeme. He was good at winning the game. America lost. Now time to pay the piper.
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cgent47
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:58pm4. “Squishy” Positions? Some Conservatives Blame the Candidate
6. Was Paul Ryan the Wrong Choice for Vice-President?
This is monday morning quarterbacking. The reason Obama won was he had the full support of the government leeches. Period!!
Free rent, free phone, free food, free power, free everything.
“Oh” and the brainwashed youth that has no clue what America really used to be.
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Mutiny
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:58pm1. The GOP had the youth vote in Ron Paul.
2. The GOP will never get the black vote. Quit wasting your time and pandering to them. The Latino vote is there but free stuff will prevail.
3. The hurricane is a poor excuse.
4. Romney is and always will be a progressive. If you didnt know that going into it, then you were not paying attention.
5. You have to inspire people to do the ground work. Romney didnt inspire anyone. He played the vote for me because you hate that guy game. It never works.
6. Paul Ryan was a ok pick. He was better than some of the other names thrown out there.
The main reason Romney lost is Romney himself. He was a bad choice from the start. He has been a progressive and his flip flops to more conservative principles were just a lame attempt to get voters. Romney never made a clear cut difference from himself and Obama outside of he owned a business and Obama hadnt. Outside of that, he mostly agreed with Obama. I mean hell he went soft on Obama over Libya, that was the straw that broke the camels back.
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JediKnight
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:10pm“The GOP had the youth vote in Ron Paul.”
********! I’m so tired of hearing this. Ron Paul may get a few votes from the youth, but the youth in this country want free stuff just like the rest of the 50% of the electorate that voted. Ron Paul would’ve lost even more because he wants a full stop to all of the entitlements. The electorate spoke yesterday and doesn’t even want entitlements to slow down.
The only way we’re going to change this country back to a more libertarian/conservative view is through either a complete economic meltdown or through changing the culture. The economic meltdown might actually be quicker and easier to do.
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justangry
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:22pmHe did have the youth vote because they’re sick of the wars, loss of freedom and are resentful of the debt the older generation keeps dumping on them.
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Solfire
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:22pmWhy are you tired of hearing the truth? Young people crammed into colleges and stadiums to see Ron Paul with enthusiasm and fervor the likes of which the Republican party hasn’t seen in decades. Ron Paul got young voters interested in monetary policy, for crying out loud. Let’s see Romney get kids excited about fractional reserve banking.
Almost every younger voter that I know was excited about Ron Paul, including life-long republicans and democrats. There are a lot of democrats that want fiscal responsibility but can’t stomach big government republicans.
Several people that I know gave time and money to the Paul campaign. When the gop knocked over old men (Henry Herford) and broke fingers to prevent a Ron Paul “takeover” (read: legitimate votes) of the party, they were practically shoved back to Obama. When the GOP refused to follow their rules (the sham vote lead by Boehner as one example), changed the rules months after the deadline, and flat out said that they don’t need the liberty movement, they cut off their nose to spite their face.
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Mutiny
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:45pm@jedi
Ron Paul wanted to phase out entitlements and give the youth options out of these huge failures.
Ron Paul would have won every state Romney won last night hands down and would have given Obama a run for his money in many other states.
Ron Paul would have crushed Obama in the debates because he had radically different views. Obama and Mitt agreed on pretty much everything by the third debate.
Ron Paul was never supported by the establishment, talk radio, or Fox news. He was ignored in the debates and still was able to clearly draw a line in the sand showing a difference between he and the rest of the Republican field.
Was Ron Paul the best speaker? Did he look the part? Was he flashy? No, but he made up for it in substance.
I do agree with you though the only thing that will fix this mess is a collapse. Its not a matter of if, but when. Hopefully we will return to the Constitution and sound fiscal policy.
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Sharon Rose
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:56pmThe young people who voted O will soon have a very hard lesson to learn.
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Gary_K
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:03pmI can hear them kicking and screaming now….they asked for it and they will suffer the consequences.
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Ortho
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:54pmI agree, I say let all the cuts begin now, don’t wait until December 31. It is what they voted for, so boots on , let it rip.
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justangry
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:56pmHis platform was weak. No one could tell me what socialist programs he was going to rid us of. It’s foolish to think he could have preserved the state, lowered taxes, expanded the military and balanced the budget. That’s not possible. He stood for the police state against the Constitution and he pissed off a lot of Constitutionalists, Libertarians, and Tea Party folks. It’s not all that hard to figure out.
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Mutiny
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:00pmThese people were warned. They are all in shock and its like they are just realizing what a crappy candidate he was. In month or two he will be hated like McCain.
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circleDwagons
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:07pmJust, just, just. We all know that the reason romney lost was because of the extreme right and that small band of Libertarians. Romney Was the Only one who had a chance of winning (sarcasm romnites) Love and Liberty
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justangry
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:11pmMutiny, I like her explanation. It’s just not that hard. I can’t believe people are dumbfounded by this. And they say we’re not grounded in reality.
“A year old prediction comes true. By rejecting the liberty message that young people understand and live by, and by refusing to commit to ending the social and military welfare state, the GOP ran to lose.” Karen Kwiatkowski
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3monkeysmomma
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:19pmDitto, my friends…we told them so!
(I say with no joy)
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djn1313
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:54pmAll you criticizing Romney are the real fools. He will do fine with his life. All of you that decided not to vote for him because of his religion and wealth, good luck with the black muslim liar you helped get re-elected.
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Sharon Rose
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:57pmRight on!
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Mutiny
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:06pmIt had nothing to do with his religion or his wealth. It had to do with his crappy progressive views he had all his life until he tried to run for president. Then the flip flops came and people like me and others on this site realized the man had no spine. He would say whatever it took to get elected.
Pro choice
Pro NDAA
Pro bailouts
Pro FED
Pro Ben Bernanke
Pro global police force
Pro UN
Pro amnesty
Pro gun control
Pro national health care mandate
Do I even need to go on?
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kaydeebeau
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:53pmThe main reasons are a trully uninformed, selfish electorate cam out in droves to vote and those who could halt them stayed home or left their values and principles in the care when they did go vote –
we have got to take control of the schools away from the marxists
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MemTN
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:05pmAny wonder now why I have homeschooled my children for the past 12 years?
Was it easy, NO!! Do I have the patience of Job? My children would say NO!!
Was it the right thing to do, YES.
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RANGER1965
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:52pm(1) Romney was shoved down our throats by the elites of the RNC, a compromising big goverment progressive which excited no one, and pissed off the conservative base.
(2) Romney wasn’t a conservative so he couldn’t sell anyone on the conservative message. It became a choice between a big government socialist (Obama) or a big goverment republican (Romney) or just call him (Obama light).
(3) A significant percentage of our base didn’t bother to vote, voted a 3rd party cantidate, or wrote in someone because Romney wasn’t a conservative.
(4) As Rush says. No one votes against Santa Claus…no one.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:10pmExactly correct.
And the GOP will learn nothing from this. If they learned nothing from Dole, nothing from McCain, they’ll learn nothing from Romney.
The Libertarian and Constitutionalist wing really need to get over their fear and just start outright voting for the Libertarian Party. Let’s call out the GOP hangers on with their own twisted rhetoric, that they are CLEARLY wasting their vote, voting for a progressive GOP party.
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justangry
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:24pmYeah really. How much do you want to bet they’ll be shoving Jeb Bush at us in four?
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resme
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:30pmIt will be Rice or Marco Rubio, Both Statist pigs in 2016…. It’s time we ditch the GOP and start anything…
Freedom isn’t popular never will be. People hate freedom. Freedom = Personal responsibility.
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Freebird
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 5:05pmI’m predicting Jon Huntsman in 2016
He’s got the “good looks” and same empty rhetoric as the past Republican candidates.Plus,he’s very progressive,the GOP likes that in their choices.
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White Devil
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:52pmI want Reagan back.
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Tractorboy
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 5:08pmMe too.
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ewoodard
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:51pmRomney lost because he was wrong. 51% of the population will vote themselves largesse, not 47%. From now on, the Republican party can always be outvoted nationally, and so it is DEAD DEAD DEAD. Just as it has been blamed for the economic woes of the last 4 years, it will be blamed for the coming ones too. The least bad solution is to crash the economy NOW and try to take advantage of the chaos. No debt ceiling raise. Let the world economy crash, and we’ll start a new country, like 1776 and 1861.
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djn1313
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:59pmDividing the nation between the Conservative states and obama’s progressive welfare states makes sense. Let the progressive elitists pay for their enslaved minorities and stupid white middle class that believes the demorats care about them.
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White Devil
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:48pm“1. Romney Lost Out Big Among Youth People”
Blaze, Don’t you mean “YOUNG People”? Not youth people? That makes no sense. And I’m ashamed that the Blaze would stoop as low as to be like libs and play the Blame Game on Hurricane Sandy. I doubt that had anything to do with the rest of the country’s vote against “Romley”, as Candy Crowley oh-so-elegantly put it; Romney was out helping Sandy victims while Obama was out… campaigning. If anything, that shows how much the president doesn’t care.
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djn1313
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:57pmDoesn’t matter what you call them, youth, young, kids, they cast their votes for the black liar. Obama is the reason there are no jobs, yet they re-elected him. They deserve NO JOBS.
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:08pmObama helped hurricane victims and then went out and campaigned. Romney tried to do both at the same time when he made campaign speeches at an alleged hurricane relief event and staged a photo op in which volunteers took cans of food out of cartons and packed them in other cartons. That cynical opportunism is the reason Chris Christie, one of the Republicans most well respected by independents, went on Fox and Friends and stopped just short of saying “Mitt Romney? **** that guy,” when asked whether he would help the candidate stage further photo ops.
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wildwood
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:48pmNO MATTER WHO THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE WAS , REPUBLICANS WOULD HAVE LOST!!!
Obama had the government worker, the union, the welfare flock, add that to buying the Sandra Flukes, the HISPANICS AND THE GAYS AND HE HAD IT IN THE BAG!!
Mitt offered jobs, and diginity, Obama offered welfare and his flock grabbed his coat tail and hung on for dear life!! It a sad day for the 50% that has to support the other 50%!!!!
The question is, WHERE IS HE GOING TO GET THE MONEY TO TEND TO HIS FLOCK!!???????PRINT MORE MONEY AND DEFLATE OUR DOLLAR MORE, ANOTHER FOUR YEARS AND A DOLLAR WILL BE WORTH LESS THAN FIFTY CENTS
PETER IS BROKE
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bhelmet
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:47pmHard to win the 18-29 vote when they see Socialism as superior to Capitalism. Well, they will experience first-hand “sounds good in theory, but fails miserably in practice”.
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Countrygirl1362
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:46pmAnother reason is that the RNC, Romney for President, state RNC, Crossroads GPS and other republican groups harassed people so bad, that some would not have voted for a republican if they were the only one runniong. Some people had over 50 repeated calls from these groups. I only had about 30, and even after repeated request for them to stop calling they totally had no respect for the people. If they show that type of disrespect while running for office, many dreaded what they would be like in office.
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bummerh8tr
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:45pmThey never should have given the 18 year olds the vote. These idiots will vote for anything that is popular.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:53pmStatistically, things have gone downhill since women’s suffrage in 1920. Look at the value of a dollar before and after that time. Government expansion since then? Maybe we should repeal the 19th amendment.
I kid I kid….relax ladies.
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Sharon Rose
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:54pmSo true.
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JRook
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:54pmVery cogent and reasonable discussion billy. But Romney and Ryan lost because the youth and independents vote based on rational thought, no merely as an extension of their beliefs. And both were turned off by Romney lying about every position on every issue and of course countless lies he floated about the PRESIDENT. Romney lost because he did not offer a real substantive alternative to the status quo. His own words were effectively used to impeach his character and show him for what he is. And most people don’t think a president should keep their money in offshore accounts and shell companies for the sole purpose of avoiding taxes.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:30pm“youth and independents vote based on rational thought”
Ha! That’s hilarious. Go hang out with some 18-24 year olds and tell me how “rational” they are. You are selling some whoppers today man.
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AvengerK
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:40pmLOL…I love that JCROOK..”rational thought”.
Manufacturing jobs are bleeding out. The debt is ridiculous and “independents and youth voted on rational thought:”? The youth voted on “cool”, empathy and social issues they have no grasp of the fiscal nightmare just around the corner and the media and Obama and idiots like you do their utmost to keep that hidden. Obama’s the quintessential kicker of the can down the road.
Please..”rational thought” you’re an idiot. The youth voted on social issues and cool and “where’s my stuff”. Idiot. They’ll learn though..the hard way.
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circleDwagons
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 5:39pm@bum. Nice streotyping. At 17 i supported Dr. PAUL and voted Libertarian until algore ran. As a Vol. I thought it was my duty to vote against the fake southern.
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Nevermind
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:45pmtoiletclogga
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:40pm
These are the reasons Romney lost:
1) He’s white.
2) He’s rich.
3) He’s Mormon.
4) He’s not black.
5) He’s worked in the private sector.
6) His opponent is black, never worked in the private sector, isn’t Mormon, and promises 47% of the population that he’s going to take money from the Romney’s and give it to them.
**********
The waahmbulance needs to be called, stop making bs excuses. I wouldve voted for Huntsmen and he is a rich white morman but i knew where he stood, romeny has no core and the voters took notice. The GOP turnout is why he lost, it was down from 2008 due ot having a worse nominess than Mccain.
For a party that talks about ” personal responability” all i see is you all blaming others rather than yourselves. The GOP turnout was down so youonly have yourselves to blame. Ryan couldnt carry WI. , Romney was Gov. of MA and lost and has a home in NH and lost.
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toiletclogga
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:50pmThe US is a Liberal nation now. Huntsman is a liberal, moreso than Romney. Stop your non-sense! The have-nots carried Obama.
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White Devil
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:50pmThe GOP turnout was so low because the Idiot voter turnout was sky high.
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djn1313
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:50pmSo I guess you chose obama because he is black, a peaceful muslim, and a community organizer moocher? What the hell does Romney’s religion have to do with his credentials to lead this country?
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:52pmI would love Huntsman….unfortunately he’s not Republican enough for the conservatives.
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toiletclogga
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:56pmI voted Romney. I was citing the reasons why Obama’s voters went for him! Understand now?
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Mutiny
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:52pm@toilet
As I stated in previous posts, people like you are the reason Obama has be reelected. You are the type of person that doesnt care about principles and will vote for who ever Bill Oreilly tells you to vote for. You are a perfect little sheep.
Thanks a lot man. You deserve four more years of Obama, my kids and I dont.
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toiletclogga
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 8:06pmI can’t help it if you didn’t understand my post. I’m a Romney supporter. I voted Romney. Obama was carried by those whose thoughts I enumerated. Good God, I’m a hard right conservative. You’re stuck on stupid!
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Mutiny
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 12:59am@toilet
I know you voted for Romney. You are a sheep that was lead to the slaughter last night. Many of us on this site warned people like you that Romney was a bad pick. I cannot help you are ignorant to the truth. You are no different than the dummies on the Dems side that blindly follow what the lame stream media and their liar in chief say.
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hauschild
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:43pmWe all know – deep down inside – why Romney lost. He is NOT a conservative. At least he didn’t govern like one, or necessarily aspire to be like one.
I keep saying it that we must have a candidate that can contrast sharply, and also be an a-hole – nice guys finish last.
Twice now, we’ve nominated the wrong person. Back in 2008, nobody was available. In 2012, there were at least two more conservative options, but our own kinda cannot recognize one of its own.
It’s about “really” being conservative, stupid!
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JediKnight
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:06pmIn case you’re not paying attention, strong conservatives lost too. That’s probably because they don’t know how to shut their mouths, but the fact is that the takers are no longer interested in doing things for themselves. Romney/Ryan were going to start cutting all of that and they weren’t going to have that.
The only thing that will stop the takers now is an economic meltdown. A few more trillion dollar deficits is all it will take. Once the economy melts down and the checks stop flowing, the takers won’t know what to do. Then the rest of us can pick up the pieces and start over.
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hauschild
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:26pmI agree also, but I’d like to see a candidate successfully make the point time and again “why” being a taker is wrong. Kinda like Reagan when he essentially challenged people and told them to get off their lazy azzes.
Another reason why I miss the 1980′s – it wasn’t cool to be a slug. Now, it’s all the rage.
But, you’re right that kids have to understand this. When I was a kid, while me might not have always practiced it, deep down, we understood it and most buckled down at some point. Now, we expect kids to buckled down when their worthless parents won’t?
It’s something I feel will never change and it is probably the foremost reason why all empires crumble.
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djn1313
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:43pmRomney lost for one reason: newer Americans and younger Americans are just plain STUPID. They believe they are entitled to wealth, hard work is not in their vocabulary. You cannot connect with people that have no concept of sacrifice and hard work. Minorities have been on the gravy train for 50 years and believe they are entitled to live off the work of others. These people deserve obama, after all they believe he is god.
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Iamaduck
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:41pmNumber 7. He is Mitt Romney.
Number 8. The atheist vote.
Number 9. He is a mormon.
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Ben__Franklin
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:50pm10. Obama had the free phone vote
11. Obama had the free Obama Cash vote
12. Obama had locked up the stupid vote which tips the scale
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:41pmRepublicans started caring more about social issues then they do fiscal issues.
Gay marriage for the country is coming whether you like it or not. If you continue to try to pass Constitutional amendments, you will continue to lose gay people and their friends(which is A LOT of young people).
If you want to overturn Woe vs. Wade, you will continue to scare women.
If you keep with your rhetoric on immigration, you will continue to get destroyed among Latinos.
You don’t have to become a Democrat, just be a little less crazy in your stances.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:50pmActually, while I feel strongly on some social issues and disinterested on others the fact remains that it isn’t the social issues that cost the election. People want free crap. Period. They don’t care about honesty or integrity. They are too dumb to realize that the Fed is taxing them every second of every day. The money they have in their pocket is worth less by the minute. They are massively uninformed and uncommitted to becoming so and are easily misled by propaganda.
“Most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker, but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.” – Michael Rivero
“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.” – Joseph Goebbels – Nazi Minister of Propoganda
“The lie can be maintained only for such time as the state can shield the people from the political, economic and military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the state to use all of it’s powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the state.” – Joseph Goebbles – Nazi Minister of Propoganda
“Until they become conscious, they will never rebel and until after they have rebelled, they cannot become conscious.” – George Orwell
“There are three classes of people: those who see, those who see when shown and those who don’t see.” – Leonardo da Vinci
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bhelmet
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:50pmNope – still comes down to education – their minds are poisoned and full of lies. Until we return to critical thinking in our education – we are done. We must teach HOW to think, not WHAT to think.
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freedan
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:51pmA moderate is just a liberal without the backbone to say that he is.
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Gregory_Adams
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:51pmStill, how to you resolve gay marriage if you are christian?
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BrandiRae
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:55pmBtw…..it’s Roe v. Wade. In case you didn’t realize the mistake.
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Mike777
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:56pmBull crap
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jima9426
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:57pmAh, the anti-abortion scare tactic. Tried but never true.
Here’s a fact for you. Even if Roe is overturned — which would be a long shot even if a GOP President could somehow eject the liberals from the bench and nominate Bork-like conservatives to confirmed by without being filibustered — do you know what would happen to the legality of abortion in this country? Nothing. The matter would simply be returned to the states. And no serious person would argue there is a single state that would ban abortion outright. And if one did? Well, plenty of women would simply vote with their feet.
But keep scaring folks if that’s what it takes to win elections. Never mind offering them something like Hope.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:58pm@Gregory
You peacefully try to convince others that it is morally wrong, while at the same time leaving them free to sin and be judged by God in the hereafter.
Wasn’t so hard, was it?
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:08pmModeration gets us John McCain another progressive we can all live without. You can talk all you want about social issues gay marriage etc. they aren’t important,the only thing that matters is job creation and you do that by getting the government off the backs of businesses and allow them to grow.
Unfortunately the electorate is comprised of idiots who care only about what government can give them,food cash whatever to keep them comfortable in their so called ‘poverty’. We had a choice of a crony capitalist and a Marxist,you know who won so I rest
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:16pmmy case. We have a nation of brain dead rejects who didn’t know any better or parasites simply draining the host take your pick.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:18pm@ROTHBARDIAN_IN_THE_CLEVE
I’m a white working male. I pay my taxes. I’m personally fiscally responsible, yet I’m glad Obama won. I didn’t vote this time but if I did vote, I would’ve voted for Obama. Not because I think Obama is great, and not because I”m anti Romney. The Republican party and their stances on the issues is what is making me not interested in their party(despite voting for them in every previous election).
@GREGORY_ADAMS
You can be against something, but that doesn’t necessarily mean you have the Constitutional authority to ban it. You can’t argue for limited government while trying to stop gay marriage and abortion. It’s not logically sound.
@JIMA9426
If it’s so unlikely, then talk to the Republicans in States who continually try to ban it, or passing legislation to force probe ultrasounds for women who do want to get abortions.
@BRANDIRAE
Haha, thanks for the correction. I knew something seemed off as I typed it out, but i didn’t bother to spell check it.
@GHOSTOFJEFFERSON
Exactly. There are all things that we think are wrong, but that doesn’t mean we have the Constitutional authority to ban it. I heard people like Santorum saying that the Government shouldn’t be engaged in social engineering….and then he says he wants to ban gay marriage.
Republicans will lose the fiscal conservatism argument if they keep running candidates like Perry, Palin, Akin, Mourdock who have extreme social views.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:40pm@Modertion,
Why do you think I care what you have in your pants and what color it is?
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AvengerK
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:47pmReally Orwellianly names Moderationisbest? You feel Romney is wrong? So Obama is right?
He hasn’t passed a budget in four years. His debt is at record levels. He has recored underemployment levels. He wants to tax more to spend more. He’s for bigger and more intrusive government and you feel Romney’s wrong but Obama’s right? Get better material you idiot…the “good lefty/bad lefty” routine isn’t working for you.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 5:00pm@AVENGERK
Romney is a progressive too.
Why don’t you stop caring about who I think is right and wrong and instead look in the mirror and ask yourself how you could vote for progressives like Romney and Ryan. Don’t you supposedly hate progressives?
Face it, you guys got it handed to you last night.
You will either realize that and adjust, or just go with the same, “Well Romney wasn’t a TRUE conservative” and go more right wing.
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AvengerK
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 5:26pmLOL…you’re the one who brought up that you thought Romney was “wrong on the issues therefore you wouldn’t have voted for him Orwellianly named MODERATIONISBEST. I merely called your bluff.
So you were going to vote for Obama again were you? Why? You like his debt? His spending? His lack of a budget for four years? His higher taxes? Is Romney “wrong” because he wants less government intrusion? Less government spending? What is Obama “not wrong on” Orwellianly named MODERATIONISBEST that you would vote for him over Romney?
Get better material you idiot.
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ModerationIsBest
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 5:40pm@AVENGERK
Re-read what I wrote.
I said that the Republican party is the reason the Republican party lost.
Romney when he was Governor wasn’t THAT bad, but he had to run further to the right to win the nomination.
It’s not because Romney wasn’t “conservative enough” it’s that he became TOO conservative to win the nomination.
In 2016 if you people are still arguing for the same things and taking the same extreme stances, you will lose AGAIN.
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Pontiaku
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:52am►►IT WOULD BE REAL NICE IF THE BLAZE WOULD STOP REFRESHING PAGES AS I TYPE A COMMENT◄◄
[It’s not because Romney wasn’t “conservative enough” it’s that he became TOO conservative to win the nomination.]
Fiscal conservatism didn’t hurt him. Social conservatism likely did. Don’t lump the two together.
ModerationIsBest
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:11pm@PONTIAKU
Yes but with this current Republican party, unless you stand in lock step with all of those social issues, you will be deemed a progressive and thus “aren’t conservative enough.”
Only when the Republican party goes back to caring more about fiscal conservatism then it does forcing their social views on people will it succeed.
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toiletclogga
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:40pmThese are the reasons Romney lost:
1) He’s white.
2) He’s rich.
3) He’s Mormon.
4) He’s not black.
5) He’s worked in the private sector.
6) His opponent is black, never worked in the private sector, isn’t Mormon, and promises 47% of the population that he’s going to take money from the Romney’s and give it to them.
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White Devil
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:44pmThat’s true. So very true.
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Ben__Franklin
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:47pmBingo! Oh and the free phones man, the free phones!
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jima9426
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:48pmConsidering the emerging demographics of the nation, that’s exactly right. So he should have picked Suzanne Martinez as his running mate. In doing so, he would have definitely won FL, CO and NM.
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Exrepublisheep
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:49pmHHhhmmmm, 3 out of 6 of your reasons are about race…you have a race problem.
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Gregory_Adams
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:49pmAt this time, I am unable to produce a lucid rebuttal to your post. Crap!
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 3:49pmThat’s pretty much it and as a bonus when the depression starts the Marxist mulatto POS fraud who never worked a day in his life can blame Bush for it.
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BODYBAG
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:02pm@PROGRESSIVESLAYER
I spoke with someone at West’s office today. They’ve been inundated with tens of thousands of calls all just like mine. They told me if one person steped forward to lead a revolt they’d be followed by millions of people all across this nation.
Just sayin’
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jrc99
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:09pmWhat can I say but, yep!
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:11pmBAG This is bad brother really bad, I can see a depression in two years or less. Impeachment is out of the question since the dems still have the senate. We might actually have a revolution soon,we’ll see.
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Danny78
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 4:57pmHe lost because the GOP couldn’t put together a candidate that could beat the most vulnerable president ever. No room in the tent for Liberty and the constitution. Maybe nextime they’ll make room.
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Sundayze
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 5:20pmThe Republican Party is incompetent, need to dismantle and start over. We need a grand new party.
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