(Photo credit: Human Events)
With votes still being tallied in Ohio and Florida — and the Romney camp maintaining that, as of roughly 11:00 pm ET, it was still too early to call the state in favor of President Obama — the 2012 presidential race may not officially be over any time soon.
The ultimate winner may not be formally determined until well into December. The margin between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney is just too tight in Ohio. As of midnight on election night Romney actually surpassed Obama, and then vise versa, revealing that the margin that separates the two is negligible at best.
The automatic trigger numbers for counting provisional ballots in Ohio is one-quarter of a percent. This does not account for a potential request by the Romney campaign either.
Four years ago more than 207,000 provisional, valid ballots were at play in the Buckeye State. There are reportedly the same number or a greater number of provisional ballots in Ohio this time around. Such a recount could delay the outcome of the presidential race.
Ohio election codes mandate that Secretary of State Jon Husted has until December 7 to verify the results.
Rick Hansen, an election law expert, explained this rare occurrence to Wonkblog:
A new wild card this year is the [Ohio] secretary of state sent out absentee ballot applications to everyone in the state. Anyone who asked for an absentee ballot, but hasn’t returned one, if they go to the polls, they will have to cast a provisional ballot. This could add thousands of people, casting provisional ballots which won’t be counted until November 17.
In what the New York Times dubs a “labyrinthine recount procedure“ that will spur a “mountain of lawsuits,” election officials and legal experts hope for a result that will be “outside the margin of litigation.” The Times explains what a provisional ballot is and why it matters:
What sets Ohio apart is the large number of provisional ballots — those that election officials could not verify on Election Day for any number of reasons: because the voter had a new address, did not provide proper identification, did not appear in the state’s computerized voter registry or had requested an absentee ballot and turned up at the polls on Election Day. Under federal law, voters whose eligibility cannot be verified at the polling place must be allowed to cast at least a provisional ballot; such ballots must be counted if election officials later confirm that the voter is legitimate.
“We’re expecting 200,000 or more provisional ballots — that’s more than New York or California — and that means that an election is contestable here with a margin in the low tens of thousands of votes,” Daniel P. Tokaji, a law professor at Ohio State University, told the Times.
Under Florida law, a recount is automatically triggered in any race decided by a margin of one-half of one percent. If 9 million people vote in Florida — a plausible figure, given reports of heavy turnout around the state — that means there could be a recount if the presidential vote is decided by 45,000 votes or less.
In a recount, all ballots are submitted again into the tabulating machines to recount the votes. If the recount yields a margin of one-quarter of one percent, the local canvassing boards must then perform another manual recount to examine so-called “undervotes” and “overvotes” — ballots that recorded no vote for president, or multiple votes for president.
Any recount must be completed within nine days from the day it was ordered by the Secretary of State. However, state law also says any recounts must be completed within 12 days of Election Day.
Many will recall that this isn’t the first rodeo for Florida when it comes to recounts. President George W. Bush and Al Gore tussled in the Sunshine State during the 2000 election for weeks until the race was ultimately settled in court. Also, elections officials are still required to collect absentee ballots from those residing overseas for roughly 10 days after election day, according to the Herald.






















































































































Comments (94)
bdutcher
Nov. 7, 2012 at 1:26amI know I was going to reply to yours but by the time I got logged in, yours had disappeared.
Report this comment
mcbruce
Nov. 7, 2012 at 1:16amThey knew who was going to win before the race started .
Report this comment
PATTY HENRY
Nov. 7, 2012 at 1:41amFour more years of her taking Millions of dollars of trips every other month; of listening to him do one thing and swear he did the other daily; of Valarie Jarrett ‘getting even’; of SCOTUS judges being appointed that will turn this Nation away from GOD, away From Church, away from our Constitution, away from FREEDOM but by golly… 50% of the people will be “getting that $$$ from Obama’s Stash”, Companies will not come back to USA; Our Tax money (what’s left of it) will be given to his Unions and His cronies; The Muslim Brotherhood will have a revolving door access to the WH; Israel is on their own – now more than ever – If they cheated then we let them ; They smeared a wonderful man and we all know it, THE MSM will be empowered now more than ever; crime will go unchecked in our big cities. He knows he was outclassed. He thought he’d lost last night. SO whatever Axelrod did with the Ohio, VA, and FL voting system..it’s up to the Decent people in those states to figure that out. The coal industry; the hope of being energy independent; the sell off of OUR minerals and riches to our ENEMIES will not be stopped. A Russian Sub is right off our Coast (just incase) and now I know for sure. THIS MAN is INDEED the ANTI-CHRIST. I’m not afraid because I know GOD is in control, but if you studied Revelations this man “who came out of no-where” is described perfectly and here he is. I would love to be wrong. I love my country with a passion, but I don’t
Report this comment
marybethelizabeth
Nov. 7, 2012 at 2:06amThe fifth column loses another battle.
God does not side with fascists
Report this comment
JACKTHETOAD
Nov. 7, 2012 at 5:41amMBE, when the time comes,either I’ll happily smile over your lifeless body, or you’ll stand over mine.It’s that simple.
Report this comment
AMENDMENT
Nov. 7, 2012 at 8:22amSo MARYBETHELIZABETH according to your comment he’s siding with communism? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNxEDomUlXw
Report this comment
AMENDMENT
Nov. 7, 2012 at 8:25amNext four years should be interesting to say the least http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK_6dzE7bxs&hd=1 wounder what gifts Obama gives the world….
Report this comment
BODYBAG
Nov. 7, 2012 at 1:16amI posted something similar earlier and the comment was removed
Report this comment
Okieflyover
Nov. 7, 2012 at 1:15amWe have now shown the world that we are a debtor nation, we will not respond to a terrorist attack on our embassy where 40 people are housed and defenseless. We are broke. Obama shows no signs of fiscal responsibility. God help us.
Report this comment
oswald
Nov. 7, 2012 at 1:10amits all over now, mitt just gave up on the fight , grab your guns stand your ground , i hope evry american buisnes owner wakes in the morning and anounces they are closeing the doors now befor obama can , and demand he steps doun . i never beleaved my vote counted , and after tonight , i know it dont…. please anyone tell me what would hapen if all buisness closed,?cause im shure gov. jobs would be forced to close as well
Report this comment
DadRocked
Nov. 7, 2012 at 2:33amHistorically would normally speak with chaos, civil disobedience and some form of civil war.
But that is from the past… Let’s jump to the present… Keep an open mind look at the Brit’s news sources of their reporting of Greece… You’ll find your answer…
Report this comment
LameLiberals
Nov. 7, 2012 at 1:07amDead people voting, people voting multiple times, illegals voting, no voter ID needed, military vote suppressed, –
Read a comment from a guy from Brazil. He was laughing at the USA. Brazil has BIO-METRIC identification while the USA does not even have VOTER PHOTO ID and if it does, that includes a library or college ID which is a joke. .
Report this comment
Walkabout
Nov. 7, 2012 at 7:20amWe need to count every vote.
To fin irregularities in the cote count such as more votes cast than registered voters or adults in a precinct. It is one way we will find voter fraud & get Voter ID laws.
We need to know how many people were truly disenfranchised like overseas military.
The closer the electoral college & popular vote is the less of a sup[posed mandate the Demoncats have.
Report this comment
TH777
Nov. 7, 2012 at 1:01amThe outcome of this election has put a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.
Report this comment
ENOUGHISENOUGH
Nov. 7, 2012 at 1:05amMine too!
Report this comment
Hodmokrin
Nov. 7, 2012 at 1:22amMine also!
Report this comment
bob2012
Nov. 7, 2012 at 2:04amI have a sick feeling also! This is a truly sad day for our country. I think we can say goodbye to America…the last 4 years has made it hard to recognize but I think in the next 4 years it will become a place that is far beyond recognition…which is what liberals wanted and now they have. They have kicked God out and without God’s blessing we can not stand as a great nation. I also believe that obama’s strategy since taking office in 2008 was to divide and conquer….he has certainly divided and now he just needs to conquer and we can say so long to the constitution and any rights we once had. So tomorrow go out and enjoy your freedom because it may soon be gone.
Report this comment
jettson
Nov. 7, 2012 at 3:26amIts frightening to think what is going to happen to our country. I hope there all so very happy.
Report this comment
kevinharper
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:59amRip gop
Report this comment
Alky
Nov. 7, 2012 at 8:34amIt’s not about GOP fool, it’s about the country becoming another Cuba.
http://www.therealcuba.com/index.htm
Report this comment
jeniffer
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:56amI am going to hang my Amerikan Flag and wear my Amerikan flag pin upside down tomorrow
Report this comment
DadRocked
Nov. 7, 2012 at 2:39amNot me due to my not flying my 50 star flag for exactly four years now.
The flag that has been flown has had a lot of questions over those years.
My response has stayed the course by saying that my 13 star flag is a reminder to all that OUR country needs to get back to the basics of what we’ve been about.
I was hoping to change it to the 50 star flag in the morning. God bless us all…
Report this comment
Chet Hempstead
Nov. 7, 2012 at 5:27amDadRocked
Yeah, well Obama won in ten of the 13 states represented by the stars on that flag, so you might just as well fly the current one.
Report this comment
mewnani
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:54amCome on Romney challenge this! This reeks of fish! We need a recount!
Report this comment
ENOUGHISENOUGH
Nov. 7, 2012 at 1:07amRomney’s not going to challenge anything. The Republicans are too weak! That’s why we lost. Romney waited too late to defend himself and he wouldn’t call Obama out on Benghazi or all his lies!
The American people have just sealed our fate!! The US is no more!!
Report this comment
mcbruce
Nov. 7, 2012 at 1:11amwhy is mitt conceding the military vote is not in yet . 64 percent black projects dole money all the haters of America has won to day . Hitler won all so .
Report this comment
Puddle Duck
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:53amThis race isn’t over by a long shot….FLA and Ohio will go to Romney…the MSM will have to eat it’s words in the next few hours.
I also refuse to believe that Romney garnered no more votes than McCain…that’s ridiculous. Something definitely stinks (not that I’m surprised).
Report this comment
Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Nov. 7, 2012 at 1:02amIt doesn’t matter. He had to have Colorado anyways. He lost, deal with it.
Report this comment
DadRocked
Nov. 7, 2012 at 2:43amHey PuddleDuck… What’s your connection to your SAC pic?
Report this comment
Frederick_Douglass_Republican
Nov. 7, 2012 at 3:02amRomney had a rally in Ohio so I went. When McCain came out as one of the speakers I felt like this was all meant to fail. Either the GOP meant for this to fail or they are so flaccid and obtuse that all they can do is fail.
Report this comment
HowardSternIsABigot
Nov. 7, 2012 at 7:29amI will never vote for a republicrat again. The grand old party died last night as far as Im concerned. Third party is the only option left. May Fat chris Christie melt in hades. If corruption wasnt involved ill eat my hoody. republitoads couldnt capitalize on the obama disasters? benghazi isnt even covered in the news? useless.
Report this comment
ConservativeJane
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:53amDick Morris was consistently tweeting every couple of minutes until about 2 hours ago then the tweets suddenly stopped. My guess is that these seasoned pros see something fishy. I voted in Cuyahoga county on Saturday. I do not trust them with my vote…
Report this comment
stevetherealist
Nov. 7, 2012 at 1:03amyou guys do have trust issues
Report this comment
jeniffer
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:53amOf course there will not be a recount, that would be racist!
Report this comment
jeniffer
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:51amThe only bright spot is to see the turmoil when people in Ohio lose their coal mines and US businesses close or go overseas. When there is $10 or higher gas, the govt takes your guns and Shari law is fully implemented. I am just waiting for an Ovomit worshipper to say one thing.
Report this comment
Chet Hempstead
Nov. 7, 2012 at 6:30amYeah, that stuff isn’t going to happen because the candidate who won last night is Barack Obama the real guy who actually exists, not Barack Obama the imaginary monster that lives in your head.
Report this comment
Seth Patriot
Nov. 7, 2012 at 8:25amHey Chet. How do your intestines look from the inside? Get your head out of your ass and wake up.
Report this comment
Alaskasfreedom
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:50amNot over yet folks!!!
Report this comment
Alaskasfreedom
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:46amIts not over yet folks!!!
Report this comment
Sosorryforyou
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:52amColorado has been called for Pres. Obama and Nevada will probably too, so he does not need Ohio, Florida and Virginia, although those will probably go to him too.
Report this comment
Pietas
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:45amUnited States Of America
Born July-4, 1776
Died Nov. 7, 2012
God be merciful to her and those who kept Faith with Him. 2012. Yeah, the propheices were right. All we can do now is Pray!
Report this comment
BODYBAG
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:53am@PIETAS
Posted on November 7, 2012 at 12:45am
United States Of America
Born July-4, 1776
Died Nov. 7, 2012
——————————–
That pretty much sums it up. Now what are Americans going to DO about it?
Report this comment
buttpatriot
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:45amgb got it wrong.? why has the prophet been forsaken?
Report this comment
jackie60
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:45amI have never been so amazed …We must pray.. because only God can help us now….. I hope these people who voted for him understand that Hitler was also elected by the German people
Report this comment
Puddle Duck
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:55amHilter was not given a majority either…he seized control through intimidation and dirty tricks.
Report this comment
Walkabout
Nov. 7, 2012 at 7:26amHitler no mandate?
Intimidation? Brown shirts street brawling with people for a decade. They swept the streets clean of communists. Makes it easier to intimidate people in subsequent elections.
Majority? Hitler never was elected fairly by a majority. the NAZI party got a plurality during the early days of the Depression & financial panic of 19929. Because of this Hindenberg appointed Hitler Prime Minister to keep the peace & keep an eye on him. Hitler used that opportunity to engage in political shenanigans such as burning the Reichstag (Parliament building) & blaming non-ethnic Germans. The rest is history.
Any election after 1933 were run under the rules of machine politics.
Report this comment
Jetstream001
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:44amGOP needs to apologize to Dr. Paul. They are reaping tonight what they sowed in the primaries.
God will not be mocked. Especially by the party that claims He is on their side.
Report this comment
Chet Hempstead
Nov. 7, 2012 at 6:32amAw, did that mean old GOP not give the nomination to your boyfriend just because he didn’t win any of the primaries? Poor baby!
Report this comment
elderbat
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:42am…reports of voter fraud, voter intimidation, no id shown, not all the states counted, something stinks here. way too much funny business.
Report this comment
Sosorryforyou
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:49amIt now doesn’t matter if Pres. Obama wins Ohio, Florida or Virginia (although it looks like he probably has) because if he wins Colorado and Nevada, which is highly projected, then he will win the Electoral College!!!!
Report this comment
drs1969
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:50amSame way he won the first one.
Report this comment
Teazn
Nov. 7, 2012 at 1:15amMy friend tried to vote at 5:30 (polls closed at 7:00). She was told that her name had been purged from the rolls. I wonder how many times this happened at the last minute across the country?
Report this comment
Hobbs10
Nov. 7, 2012 at 10:08pmAny of these shannigans that have been pulled need to be reported just so there is a paper trail to be followed up on instead of being lost in the shuffle and forgotten. There were 2 instances in Utah that I know of. Whenever a person voted a straight republican ticket, the answer automatically came up for Obama so anyone knowing what was going on had to vote individually for each person and questions. I know one case in Oregon where a woman was personally mailed 3 absentee ballots in her name. If she weren’t honest she cold vote 3 times. If no one checks????? OBAMA
Report this comment
NDPINDNT
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:42amThe Republic has just been lost. Socialism has won out. God help us all.
Report this comment
spirited
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:42amPray that Romney does not throw in the towel –yet.
Report this comment
Alaskasfreedom
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:45amNot Yet!!
Report this comment
AdmiralQ
Nov. 7, 2012 at 1:17amSadly he has. I believe Civil War is only a matter of time. Electoral needs to be changed.
Report this comment
AdmiralQ
Nov. 7, 2012 at 1:19amHe did. I live in occuppied land. Electoral college needs to be changes. No more winner take all.
Report this comment
ConservativeJane
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:41amSo we are to believe that Romney got the same number of votes as McCain? I refuse to believe that.
Report this comment
denkat56
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:36amGod help us all.
Report this comment
CatB
Nov. 7, 2012 at 12:42amKeep praying .. for America and Israel.
Report this comment
Frederick_Douglass_Republican
Nov. 7, 2012 at 3:05amPeople who said this is in Gods hands and we will get what we deserve have their answer. Vladimir will get what he’s after as well.
Report this comment