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Scientologists Open Holy Land Headquarters in Israel (With 200 Staffers)

TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — The Church of Scientology has apparently found one place where its presence doesn’t set off alarms, protests and demonstrations, and that place is one of the world’s most religiously fraught countries — Israel.

In August, Scientology opened a gleaming new headquarters in the ancient port city of Jaffa, part of Tel Aviv. Since then, visitors and the curious have streamed through with no incidents.

Scientology Moves to Israel: New Headquarters Opens With Little Protest

In this Wednesday, Nov. 7, 2012 photo, shows books by American science fiction writer and founder of Scientology L. Ron Hubbard, on display at the Scientology center in port city of Jaffa Tel Aviv, Israel. (AP Photo/Ariel Schalit)

And this in a country where Jews and Muslims harbor clashing claims over the same holy sites, sometimes sparking violence, and competing Jewish streams disparage each other openly and often.

Scientology has confronted charges in many countries that it is a dangerous cult that brainwashes its followers and confiscates their assets. Its leaders deny that.

“Like any new religion, people have misconceptions and much doubt, but we simply use logic to think life out for ourselves and are taught to question and debate everything,” said Sefi Fischler, the church’s spokesmen in Tel Aviv.

According to its website, Scientology believes man is an immortal spiritual being with unlimited capabilities. Its practices include spiritual counseling.

Scientology Moves to Israel: New Headquarters Opens With Little Protest

This Wednesday, Nov. 7, 2012, photo shows the main hall of the Scientology center in port city of Jaffa Tel Aviv, Israel. Near the ancient market of Israel s biblical port city of Jaffa, a striking new white building has been erected amid the mustard tableau of surrounding stores and homes. The elegant 60,000 square-foot center sticks out for another reason: It is the new headquarters of Scientology in the Holy Land. Credit: AP

Created by American science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard in 1954, the Los Angeles-based movement claims millions of members worldwide, including celebrities like actors Tom Cruise and John Travolta. It has been blamed as the catalyst behind the well-documented breakup of Cruise and his ex-wife Katie Holmes.

Germany, France and Russia are among the governments that keep a close eye on Scientology, and court cases have been filed against the church in some places.

In contrast, there hasn’t been much public opposition in Israel.

While a 1987 Israeli parliamentary commission declared it a cult, the practice of Scientology in Israel is legal. The new headquarters has some 200 staff and claims to serve thousands.

Eytan Schwartz, a spokesman for Tel Aviv’s mayor, said the new center is a testament to Israel’s spirit of religious tolerance.

“Within just a few blocks of the center, you’ll find numerous synagogues, several mosques and churches, 4,000 years of Abrahamic monotheistic religions expressing themselves,” he said. “The Scientology center is simply showing that Tel Aviv is one of the most pluralistic cities in the Middle East.”

“When it comes to all we strive for, for freedom, to be included and embraced by one’s fellow man, there is no group that better bears these marks than Scientology,” Mohammed Kaabia, the prime minister’s adviser on Bedouin Arab affairs said in a statement issued by the Scientology center.

Kaabia and another representative attended the August opening, but the prime minister’s office has since distanced itself from the event, saying the two officials were not there in an official capacity, attending as individuals invited by an anti-drug organization.

Despite the lack of public protests at its new center, the church has no shortage of detractors. A group of Israeli Scientology defectors, claiming corruption within the church, started a breakaway center in the northern city of Haifa.

Scientology Moves to Israel: New Headquarters Opens With Little Protest

In this Wednesday, Nov. 7, 2012, photo a librarian goes through books at the library of the Scientology center in the port city of Jaffa Tel Aviv, Israel. Near the ancient market of Israel s biblical port city of Jaffa, a striking new white building has been erected amid the mustard tableau of surrounding stores and homes. Credit: AP

Yad L’Achim, an Israeli anti-missionary group, criticized the government for what it said was too warm a welcome.

“Politicians have diplomatically welcomed the center, because politics is all about being nice,” says Daniel Asor, a spokesman for the group. “Scientology is a cult, and this is a dangerous development.”

Israeli movie director Erez Meshulam said the presence of the new center is disastrous. “Scientology ruined my marriage by convincing my wife, in return for thousands and thousands of dollars, that her soul could be cleansed,” he said. “I fear this means more people will be fooled.”

Church officials dismiss such criticism as baseless.

Fischler said the center hopes to bridge gaps among religions in the country. He noted its anti-drug and literacy efforts and outreach programs to prison inmates.

“Now with the building open, we can invite everybody in and show them who we are,” he said.

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Comments (69)

  • AmericaMustBeFree
    Posted on November 9, 2012 at 12:25am

    Hellooooooooooooo Israel.. You just let the devil in the front door! These people are almost like Sharia law.. What were you thinking!

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    • Aviefar
      Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:20am

      Scientology is rather a weird and small cult in Israel and it is not foresee to grow beyond its now deployment. From time to time rumors about inappropriate behave that take place in this cult are being spread on news, such as stealing their “believers’” money and cases of psychological and sexual exploitation among members. Those have a quite destructive impact on people’s mind.

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  • hearmeout
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:28pm

    What would be really interesting is to open a operation in a muslim country. wouldn’t that be daring??

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  • watashbuddyfriend
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 6:52pm

    Is the headquarters next door to the Dome of the Rock? If so, bad place to be!

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  • mzk1
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 4:39pm

    Oh, please. Missionaries and cults are not exactly popular here, given how so many groups all over the world spend enormous amounts of money trying to convert us. As the sign says, “we had enough last time with the Crusaders”. It says someothing that even the MSM here, which slanders every other right-wing-religious group, gives Yad L’achim a pass.

    Y’know, the Christian Arabs here could use some strengthhening of their religion. Why don’t the missionaries try to strenghten their faith and leave us poor Jews alone already.

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    • Patriot760
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 5:27pm

      @MZK1: This is not to argue with you about Scientology, but is a reply to your comment of ‘leave us poor jews alone’. I do support Israel’s right to exist, but in my view there is nothing ‘poor’ about jews. Israel continues to spy on the US, trades with the Azeris, does not recognize the first Genocide of the 20th Century, has supported Turkey, and provides arms to the Azeris who have vowed to kill Armenians. Not to mention the amount of aid they receive at the expense of the US taxpayer.

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  • Eblaze44
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 3:28pm

    Who cares? Here we begin another round of cultists calling other cultists names while they are all going to hell in a hand basket.

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    • skeptic101
      Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:22pm

      Trust those who seek the truth but doubt those who say they have found it

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  • The_Cabrito_Goat
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:42pm

    I see a lot of books in that library. It’s good that Scientology as a religion boasts many intellectuals, but could their intellectual freedom exist outside of Israel inside of the Holy Land? Probably not.

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    • Chatikh
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 3:59pm

      I assure you, scientology is not filled with intellectuals. Intellectuals can see their tactics, their absurd beliefs, their unsupported loathing of psychiatry, etc. I can see why people might believe in God, even though he isn’t real. It’s something you’re taught from childhood, like Santa. But very few people grow up with scientologist parents. Absolutely no person with any reason would believe that L. Ron Hubbard was a prophet or believe that Xenu or whatever is real.

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    • mzk1
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 4:42pm

      L. Ron Hubbard was a Golden Age science fiction writer who spoke about how you could start a cult as a scam, and then he went ahead and did it.

      And we Israelis are rather tired of all the missionaries and cults coming to convert us. Why don’t the missionaries help the Christian Arabs who are wavering in thier faith instead of bothering the Jews?

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  • MDECKER
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 1:05pm

    “This highway leads to the shadowy tip of reality: you’re on a through route to the land of the different, the bizarre, the unexplainable…Go as far as you like on this road. Its limits are only those of mind itself. Ladies and Gentlemen, you’re entering the wondrous dimension of imagination. . .
    Next stop The Twilight Zone. ” ― Rod Serling
    Do-do-do-do, do-do-do-do…

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  • NILAP
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:20am

    There are Thomas Edisons out there who will clear up all the spiritual wars and claims out there. Who will bring true spiritual light to humanity.

    What humanity needs instead of going to Mars is to find a safe bridge to experience heaven or the threshold of heaven. There are scientists out there who can make this happen. A NASA to bring Heaven on Earth. To experience heaven, to clear up all the various holy books, to meet the true prophets of God, to meet relatives we never met before, to meet other living souls, perhaps all humanity on a universal pilgrimage in heaven temporarily. This would reveal our true purpose in this life individually and as a group. Imagine the music in heaven and revelations from the Creator which are direct and not filtered through prophets or religious hierarchies. Real experience would replace faith. We would truly be able to bring world peace with real leadership. No more Hitlers, Ayatollahs gurus and various religious preachers and individuals claiming they know the truth. Heaven will come to Earth. Atheists and believers alike with met the various prophets like Jesus who will clear up all misunderstandings.

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    • Pontiaku
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:33am

      Oh boy, here we go…

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    • INTHEBROTHERHOOD
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:45am

      get some sleep

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    • Eastinfection
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 12:26pm

      Let me guess… we’ll travel there in a Delorian?

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    • Joe_The_Patriot
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:45pm

      Maybe those mushrooms you have been eating weren’t shitake…… WOW

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    • TRUMPETCALL
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:28pm

      - –

      What are YOU smoking???

      Seriously. . .

      There is nothing “spiritual” about Scio-Logos – with the exception that it is a lie straight from the pit of Hell. Period. Their stated goal to “Clear the Planet” has only ever been about the money.

      And ruining lives.

      But that is another heinous story.

      I could go on.

      ANY group that panders to the pseudo-intellectual stylings of one Calypso Louie and his Merry Band of Moooslum Followers — to say nothing of the upright moral character of Tom Cruise, Travolta and the other Hollywood Elites — can only be in it TO SELL THEM BOOKS!!

      And get them signed up on course!

      **Hint: (They’ll be the ones selling tickets to Armageddon)

      - -

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  • TheCalvinistPastor
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:47am

    Great, we got Scientologists in Israel, now the only CULT left we need to open a headquarters in Israel is the Jehovah’s Witnesses

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    • Eblaze44
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 3:34pm

      Last years report said there were 1,296 witnesses in Israel with an increase of 5% over the year before,64 were baptised last year, & there are 18 Congregations, 840 people are also having bible studies with the Witnesses,& 2,523 attended the Memorial of Christ’s death last year in Israel.

      The first seeds of Bible truth to take root in the country were sown in 1913.The first congregation was organized there in 1920.

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    • Eblaze44
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 3:36pm

      Yes, there are all the cults of Jesus, called the Christ, in Israel. Some of those cults call themselves Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Catholics (of various sects), Church of God, of Christ, of LDS, of whatever other cult names we give to those that purport to believe in Jesus the Son of God as GOD.

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 4:06pm

      EBlaze44,

      Thank you for your figures for the JW activity in Israel, the report for 2011 is actually more than what you provided. Every year the figures go higher, not only in Israel but all over the world.
      http://www.jw.org

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    • mzk1
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 4:45pm

      A lot of Christians fool Jews by starting “Bible classes” and then start sneaking the Christian Bible in.

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    • YellowFin
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 4:56pm

      mzk1,

      No, Really?
      That’s hard to imagine they would do such a awful thing.
      How dare they use the Bible.

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  • v15
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:05am

    This is why I am glad that Romney lost. If he had become President then he would have made spending cuts that would have made him unpopular and he and the LDS church would be persecuted and attacked. You saw an honest man lose and go out like a peaceful follower of Christ.

    As for Scientology, I think they made a ballsy move here. Farrakhan may accept them in the USA but I doubt Arabic Muslims will do the same.

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    • LibertyGoddess
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:31pm

      I think the LDS church has bigger shoulders than you give them credit for.

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    • Joe_The_Patriot
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:48pm

      There is NOTHING positive about another 4 years of Barry and his AGENDA…

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    • mzk1
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 4:48pm

      I wish they would go after their fellow Arab Christians. Instead they go after the Jews. (OK, not the scientologists. But Christians here really could use some spiritual help. But do the missionaries help their brothers-in-faith? No, they’re more interested in completing the destruction of the Jewish people.

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  • GenBurnside
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:26am

    I have not posted on the Blaze in several months, but when I saw this story I felt compelled to…

    I appreciate the Blaze for being this story to light simply for the opportunity to pray for the folks who will be impacted by the presence of Scientology in the Holy Land.

    This cult will offer free communication classes and claim to make you a “better” Jew, Christian, spouse or____ (fill in the blank), then they will convince you that anyone in your life that expresses concern about your involvement is a “suppressive person” and then “ironically” force you to cut off communications with them in order to protect scientology.

    There is absolutely no redeeming value to this organization in this world other than to remind us that folks are looking for the truth and some will be conned by liars. Please pray for the potentially lost souls and those who care about them as there will certainly be ruined lives and families.

    I know…because it happened to me.
    And how ironic is it that a cult is more motivated to reach out to Israel than our own president…..

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    • copatriots
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:34am

      As I read your entry, I knew you were speaking from personal experience before you said it. Thank you for your unique perspective and for your humble reminder to pray for the lost. Blessings to you!

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    • Konservative PUNK
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:40am

      Sounds a lot like Mormonism.

      “Scientology is a cult, and this is a dangerous development.”

      It is time for the church to strip out all the garbage and worship Christ.

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    • SanRemo1959
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 12:15pm

      Question: would you ever vote for a stalwart conservative, who happened to be a Scientologist, for POTUS? If not, why not, since you voted for Romney, an elder in a super secretive cult? LDS is a far more powerful and dangerous mind control cult than Scientology.

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    • LibertyGoddess
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:33pm

      Sanre – you are out of your mind. You remind me of the lying cockroaches in the liberal party.

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    • lovegbeckandtheblaze
      Posted on November 15, 2012 at 10:48am

      thanks for writing. I agree with you completely and have been dealing with my son for the last 5 years, and particularly after his fathers death, being “drawn in” by this cult. He is very intelligent and I am hoping he sees the light eventually. What you stated about the cult’s approach is exactly what they tried to do with my son.

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  • Metallicat
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:17am

    Just a ploy to make scientology appear to be a relevant religion by placing it in the Holy land among mans oldest religions.

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  • DeavonReye
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:12am

    Well, . . . there goes the neighborhood.

    Just curious, does anyone else think that part of the seal [in the second picture] kinda looks like a taco shell?

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    • fantasypoliticsusa
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:05am

      Yes. That is the secret taco logo that can be found in all Scientology Centers worldwide. If you read it correctly you can find catering. From what I can gather catering is just beyond those doors to the left of the stage (stage right). Normally the secret logos are better hidden and people can starve before they ever find catering. You could possible survive as a Scientologist.

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:18am

      Well, . . . I . . . LOVE tacos. It really is one of the only foods that is truly hard to mess up. Maybe the Scientologists have something. I mean, . . . we gotta eat! And it looks like another symbol has the shape of a piece of pizza. I’m just sayin’.

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  • Eastinfection
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:08am

    Well… at least now the Jews and Muslims will have a common enemy!

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  • cassandra
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:50am

    MARYELIZABETH are you out of your mind or just plain stupid Glenn Beck went to Israel to support them scientology is a CULT of mindless drones

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    • marybethelizabeth
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:12am

      Yes, you are right.

      Mr. Beck got his minions to pay for a Holy Land vacation for him and his entourage. Who wouldn’t go if it was free, regardless of the Israelis that took to the streets encouraging him to leave.

      And when Mr. Beck returned he announced he opposed selling arms to Israel.

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  • SquidVetOhio
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:36am

    So when is the Mecca branch opening?

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  • marybethelizabeth
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:36am

    Another Theblaze non story,

    although it can be pointed out that by opening a business in Israel, the Scietologists are standing behind that country more than Mr. Beck ever will.

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    • Eastinfection
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:06am

      “I also want to congratulate Glenn Beck for winning the Miriam and Sheldon Adelson award, the Defender of Israel award. Glenn, you can be sure that if Sheldon and Miri Adelson put their name to something, it must stand for a lot. You stand for a lot. You’ve been fearless in defending Israel against the slanders that are hurled against it. You’ve done that with considerable personal cost but you’ve never backed off, you’ve never flinched, you’ve walked away. And I want to tell you how deeply we appreciate this stand of courage and integrity.”

      -Benjamin Netanyahu November 2011

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    • marybethelizabeth
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:23am

      From Thinkprogress.com:

      All Israelis might not view Beck the way Netanyahu does. This summer, when Israel saw its largest protests ever in the name of social justice, Beck denounced the gathering. Despite 88 percent approval for the protests among Israelis, Beck, in a typically conspiracy-laced tirade, derided the prostesters a leftist-Islamist-Nazi plot to bring Israel down.

      Beck also launched an attack last year on liberal billionaire George Soros. Michelle Goldberg of the Daily Beast called the episode of Beck’s now-defunct Fox News Show “a symphony of anti-Semitic dog-whistles.” The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) chided Beck’s remarks as “horrific.” Later, the ADL also criticized Beck for comparing Reform Judaism to radical Islam, this time eliciting an apology from the radio host.

      The Los Angeles Times also rounded up some of Beck’s contrversial statements about Jews:

      He has several times had to fend off allegations of anti-Semitism. Last year he appeared to endorse the notion that Jews killed Jesus Christ; his list of the world’s nine most “dangerous” people includes eight Jews…

      An official from the liberal Israeli organization Peace Now told the paper: “If this is the only kind of friend Israel’s government can find around the world, that’s a very poor sign.”

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    • 1Flashlight
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:16am

      Marybethhelizabeth – Are you a Scietologists? It looks like to me your acting like one!!!!

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    • Eastinfection
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:29am

      lol.. Marybeth

      That’s the same source i got my quote from.
      Do you have any criticism of Glenn’s stance on Israel that’s NOT from a Leftist or Anti-Zionist?

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:44pm

      *crickets*

      doesn’t appear so.

      She who speaks the most says the least.

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  • jcldwl
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:30am

    It is nothing but a cult. L. Ron Hubbard started the religion to get rich. He is quoted as saying, “If a person wants to get rich they need to start their own religion.” Enough said.

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:37am

      That’s funny, Muhammed said the same thing.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:50am

      I hope L. Ron enjoyed his Earthly riches…eternity is a long, long time.

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    • Konservative PUNK
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:43am

      Gonzo, I find myself in agreement with you quite often.
      I am also very amused at your sense of humor.
      Keep ‘em comin’ brother.
      See you on the other side.

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:09pm

      Joesph Smith started Mormonism to escape the law and build a personal fortune. Not all that different is it?

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    • LibertyGoddess
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:35pm

      Simple, Joseph was 14 when he had his vision. I’m not sure you are getting the truth from your sources.

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    • DeavonReye
      Posted on November 9, 2012 at 8:46am

      I thought he was married when he “translated the plates”? Wasn’t that the reason the religion started? Regardless, . . . you’re talking about someone [age matters not] that claimed to “have a vision”. The thing about “visions” is, . . . . . no one else can corroborate them. In other words, . . . it COULD have been a true vision. . . or “translation of actual plates”. OR, . . . he was a fraud. There have been many before him, . . . many after. Which is more likely?

      Each person is free to believe whatever they wish. For me, . . . I refuse to accept the words of any mere person, when that person makes an extraordinary claim. Your mileage may vary.

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  • copatriots
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:28am

    Well…..why not? The world is hellbent and hellbound. Strange to witness it firsthand.

    We were born for such a time as this. Stay strong, Christian Soldiers.

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    • momrules
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:38am

      Morning Copatriots……….Yes. I am at peace as never before Tuesday night. I truly believe we are living in the end of this earthly age. I slept better last night than I have in weeks. This is all in God’s hands and His plan.
      We who love Him should fill our hearts with happiness and smile.

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    • copatriots
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:54am

      Morning Mom! I found peace yesterday….His blessed peace. Although you and I both predicted the election outcome vocally here, I admit it was tough to reconcile in my soul watching it unfold. I feel like Jeremiah with warnings falling on deaf ears and indoctrinated, deceived minds. The SCOTUS ruling in July was the catalyst confirming my fear that this country was no longer a God-fearing, Bible believing nation. THAT was a tough reality.

      The world is now rushing full speed ahead into globalization as written in Revelation. Thankfully, that time will be cut short due to God’s elect. Blessings upon you and yours through this phenomenally tumultuous time.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:04am

      Hey Mom, me too! I feel better today than I have in months! I have been far too worried about this earthly kingdom and now that it’s gone I realize how little an earthly kingdom means anyway. We are going to see amazing things.

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    • kickagrandma
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:25am

      After grieving so deeply yesterday, we, too, slept better last night than we have in months. Glad to be standing at this time in GOD’s history. HIS BLESSINGS AND MERCY on all you “guys”.

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    • Konservative PUNK
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:50am

      Here Here!
      America was a beautiful thing. It demonstrated the best that men could muster.
      However, I too am at peace knowing that we will all go home soon.
      I do believe there will be lots of pain before we reach that destination, as it is written:

      Revelation 13:10
      “If anyone is to go into captivity,
      into captivity they will go.
      If anyone is to be killed with the sword,
      with the sword they will be killed.”
      This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God’s people.

      Pray my brothers and sisters, Pray with all you have.

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    • netmail
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 1:20pm

      I too slept better last night. There is peace in resignation and a deeper understanding of the truth.

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  • Minnaloushe
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:28am

    “The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.”

    William Butler Yeats (1865-1939)

    THE SECOND COMING

    Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

    Surely some revelation is at hand;
    Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
    The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
    When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
    Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
    A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
    A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
    Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
    Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.

    The darkness drops again but now I know
    That twenty centuries of stony sleep
    Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

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  • 1Flashlight
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:26am

    All I can say is “St. Petersburgh Times”

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  • justa_thought
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:18am

    Anything but God. Anything. Im sure no one will challenge this, but, put a Christian church in the middle of the desert and all hell will come down upon them from every direction.

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  • Individualism
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:17am

    there are radicals in every group but Israel is tolerant good now if they would stop begging USA to attack Iran things would be fresh.

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:39am

      Yea, if we would just let the Iranians wipe out those pesky Jews, the world would be better eh?

      What are you so bitter about? Your guy won the election. Obama appreciated your Gary Johnson vote. FORWARD!

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:15am

    satan surely dresses up to impress, doesn’t he?

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  • randy
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:05am

    “Politicians have diplomatically welcomed the center, because politics is all about being nice,”?
    Stupid Politicians.

    Ok, so maybe we should let Iran do a surgical, one block radius nuclear strike in the ancient port city of Jaffa.

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