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Following Obama Victory, U.S. Backs New U.N. Arms Treaty Talks

Nov. 8, 2012 9:32am Tiffany Gabbay

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Just hours after President Barack Obama secured a second term in the White House, the United States supported the U.N. in its bid Wednesday to reignite talks over an international treaty regulating the $70 billion global conventional arms trade, according to Reuters:

U.N. delegates and gun control activists have complained that talks collapsed in July largely because Obama feared attacks from Republican rival Mitt Romney if his administration was seen as supporting the pact, a charge Washington denies.

The month-long talks at U.N. headquarters broke off after the United States – along with Russia and other major arms producers – said it had problems with the draft treaty and asked for more time.

A U.S. official said Washington’s goals have always been the same.

“We seek a treaty that contributes to international security by fighting illicit arms trafficking and proliferation, protects the sovereign right of states to conduct legitimate arms trade, and meets the concerns that we have been articulating throughout,” the official said.

“We will not accept any treaty that infringes on the constitutional rights of our citizens to bear arms.”

According to Reuters, U.S. officials have also acknowledged — albeit in private — that the treaty would not infringe on domestic gun ownership or sales and would only affect exports. Reuters adds:

The main reason the arms trade talks are taking place at all is that the United States – the world’s biggest arms trader accounting for more than 40 percent of global conventional arms transfers – reversed U.S. policy on the issue after Obama was first elected and decided in 2009 to support a treaty.

The U.N. General Assembly’s disarmament committee wasted no time after Obama’s re-election to approve a resolution calling for renewed talks March 18-28. The votes to hold new talks passed overwhelmingly. Diplomats allege that the vote was actually slated to take place prior to the U.S. presidential election but was delayed due to Hurricane Sandy.

Is a deal a mere months away? According to Reuters, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Sudan, Belarus, Cuba and Iran all abstained from voting on the treaty. China, however, voted in favor. Meanwhile, Britain, France and Germany joined China and the U.S. in support of the measure, which is expected to pass during a vote by the General Assembly.

Jeff Abramson, director of the gun control advocacy group, Control Arms, urged members states to sign on to stringent provisions, according to Reuters.

“In Syria, we have seen the death toll rise well over 30,000, with weapons and ammunition pouring in the country for months now,” Abramson said. “We need a treaty that will set tough rules to control the arms trade, that will save lives and truly make the world a better place.”

Brian Wood of Amnesty International said:

“After today’s resounding vote, if the larger arms trading countries show real political will in the negotiations, we’re only months away from securing a new global deal that has the potential to stop weapons reaching those who seriously abuse human rights.”

What’s more:

The treaty would require states to make respecting human rights a criterion for allowing arms exports.

Britain’s U.N. mission said on its Twitter feed it hoped that the March negotiations would yield the final text of a treaty. Such a pact would then need to be ratified by the individual signatories before it could enter into force.

The National Rifle Association has vehemently opposed the treaty.

Delayed negotiations on the part of the Obama administration likely point to political reasons that could have hindered his re-election bid.

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BODYBAG
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:18am
“This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it. ”
———–Abraham Lincoln

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- Popp40
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:39am
  @Plantloadin….just remember, it only took one shot to start the Revolutionary War (remember “the shot heard around the world”) and the Civil War.
  
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- Damocles
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:39am
  Easy there, Pantsload. There are a lot of veterans here, including myself, who have had to stand in harm’s way before, so be respectful or troll elsewhere. It is easy to sit in your comfy chair behind your monitor and run your mouth. If it wasn’t for the 2nd amendment, you wouldn’t have the right and luxury to troll this website.
  
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- dogmeat
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:48am
  (All you need is somebody willing to die first) Here I STAND!
  
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- Metallicat
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:57am
  @Popp40
  I agree. The next shot to start an American revolution will come when they murder an American citizen removing his Constitutional rights and the others waiting in line behind him become an army.
  
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- Rampart
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:57am
  Well this President and this DOJ know all there is to know about running small arms to foreign countries [i.e. Mexico, Syria]…Their experience should be helpful in these “talks.”
  
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- grimmster
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:58am
  Ive said this before,and i’ll say it again, try and take my guns………
  
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- JQuentinEvermann
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:01am
  I would gladly lay down my life to rid America of this tyrant. I spent 8 years in the Marine Corps defending this country and its people, not its government. Obama has become an enemy of the people, and champion of the sheeple.
  
  Revolution is coming, and soon. Imagine “Occupy” with guns, and people who aren’t scared of them. All the Obama supporters can huddle into the tiny slivers of blue on the map that recognize him as president. Here, in Texas, we don’t take kindly to the lazy that rely on Obama to steal from us and give to them.
- Damocles
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:03am
  Pantsload when it comes to mouths, especially big ones, you bought the t-shirt, didn’t ya. I think the only thing you’ve ever served is a cheeseburger.
  
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- mikem1969
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:06am
  BodyBag, I am ready and willing to be part of a revolution to take our country back and get back to traditional AMERICAN values with an amended constitution with TERM LIMITS FOR ALL AND A YEARLY BALANCED BUDGET OR NO PAY FOR GOVERNMENT. I have my guns, ammo, and the will to do what needs to be done. I took an oath to protect this country from enemies both foreign and domestic years ago and will fight tyranny to my last breath.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:22am
  @JQUENTINEVERMANN
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:01am
  Revolution is coming, and soon.
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  I spoke yesterday with a rep at a well-known congressman’s office. He informed me that they have been flooded with tens of thousands of calls just like mine. He also stated that all it would take was someone [or small group of people] to step up and millions of Americans across the country would back them.
  
  I honor the Founding Fathers — Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Thomas Paine, John Adams, etc. If that makes me an “extremist” or “radical” then so be it. Chris Matthews can kiss my @ss.
  
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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:43am
  @Bodybag,
  
  Preach it.
  
  “I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.”
  - US Presidential candiate Barry Goldwater, accepting the nomination at the 1964 USA Republican party convention
  
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- scott4freedom
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:53am
  It is time for the revolution of change, this governemnt has strayed so very far from the pricipals that it was founded upon. It is time to “throw off” the government. it no longer serves the People, It serves itself. It is against everything the country was established for, it is time to move against it and take our America back to the ideals that it was founded upon!
  
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- bekhiet
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 12:02pm
  I think that day may come.
  
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- justa_thought
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 12:04pm
  These comments make me laugh. Im with you for sure but, what you dont realize is that all this has already happened. Its just that what you hear in the media is “some gun waving christian came to the door with a gun and we had to shoot him” and so we all breath a breath of relief that a bad guy went down, when all the time its the government breaking into someones house and blowing them away.
  Nothing to see here folks, just keep moving along with the other sheep. We have lost our country. We are prisoners and just are to stupid to know it. Like Ancient Rome, just give us a loaf of bread and a ticket to the circus and we will vote for you. Look at what happened tuesday. Exactly the same thing. We have half the country that are total idiots and they vote, we stay at home and then bitch about how the election went. We get what we have asked for. Another 4 years of crap. But, this time its on steroids. The country we grew up in no longer exists. Its been taken over by idiots.
  And voter fraud thrown in just to make it interesting. But they have been embolden by their success in doing so. It works, much to my amazement.
  
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- MittensKittens
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 12:16pm
  BODYBAG…Amen, and I certainly will be standing side by side those willing to pay the price and pledge my life, fortune, and sacred honor!
  
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- desertspeaks
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 12:30pm
  so now obama is AGAINST fast and furious gun running weapons into mexico? confusions reigns supreme between his ears!
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 12:46pm
  thats sure an Ironic quote considering Lincoln went to war with the citizens who tried just that. He was a hypocrite and a tyrant.
  
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- WCJ
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 12:46pm
  Looks like Abe had a big problem with the South’s Constitutional right of trying to dismember it.
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 12:47pm
  The 2nd amendment isn’t just a right, it’s a duty.
  
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- Xiccarph
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 12:51pm
  Interesting quote from Abe Lincoln, since it was his administration that went after the Confederacy when they all wanted to secede from the united States. Its OK to go against a government as long as its not yours, eh Abe? The 1860′s saw the end of the True Republic, and from 1913 on the Constitution of the Republic was pretty much had been thrown out as a nuisance to the grander plan of centralized government rule.
  
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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 1:25pm
  In January I began doing the daily dozen and running. My goal was, and still is, to be in the best possible physical shape I can be at 64 years old. I intend to be fully ready when needed. My oath sitll stands.
  
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- Chamber
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 1:52pm
  So, the man who sent Federal troops into soverign states after they had succeded from remaining in a compact that they felt was oppressing them said this? Amazing!
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:17pm
  @WARMUNGER_AL
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 12:46pm
  thats sure an Ironic quote considering Lincoln went to war with the citizens who tried just that.
  He was a hypocrite and a tyrant.
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  Actually, to the small handful of meatheads here bashing Lincoln —– context & purpose matter.
  That war was solely and entirely about freeing an entire race of people who were being brutally enslaved by democrats. That was at the founding of the Republican party —— freeing people and abolishing slavery. Secession wasnt about breaking free of an overbearing government — it was about the desire to continue enslaving people for profit. It was wrong then, and its wrong now. Abraham Lincoln had the guts to do what was morally correct.
  
  If a group of states today suddenly began enslaving your white families wholesale and putting them into work camps, Im quite sure most of the cynics here would desperately want your President to rescue you and fight for your freedom.
  
  Amazing how ignorant many people are today of American History and its implications.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:23pm
  @XICCARPH
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 12:51pm
  Interesting quote from Abe Lincoln, since it was his administration that went after the Confederacy when they all wanted to secede from the united States. Its OK to go against a government as long as its not yours, eh Abe?
  —————————
  Its NOT ok to allow an entire population of your citizens to be enslaved for the profit of a few.
  And thats why he won — he was fighting on the side of whats right.
  
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- Joe_The_Patriot
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:28pm
  Keep Your Powder Dry !!!!!
  
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- old white guy
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:32pm
  obama backs it. not the u.s.
  
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- PubliusPencilman
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:35pm
  The president won the election, fair and square. The people have spoken and the democratic system worked just as it should. When you nutjobs suggest armed rebellion, you are suggesting taking away the democratic choice of Americans. That makes YOU the tyrant, not the president.
  
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- gunny9631
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:49pm
  Reading these posts puts a tear in my eye. I’m in. Sign me up. 14 yrs of defending these worthless no gratitude mother freakers.
  
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- isobamamadd
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 3:49pm
  http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121108/BIZ/211080344/Firearms-makers-rally-after-Obama-s-win?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s
  
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- JohnTwoFeathers
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 4:50pm
  From my cold dead hands…..
  
  Semper Fi
  
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- flyingpeters
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 5:40pm
  Revolutionary war! It’s what the left wants but, we would win hands down! So I think we need to get there soon…..before my rounds start to rust!
  
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- Armyvet706
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 6:19pm
  just like stupid liberals that you are! Your heads are so far up your @sses, you don’t know what the hell is going on around you. Guess you missed the elections. Freaking idiots!
  
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- Bad Kitty
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 6:35pm
  Yea, lets go start the 2nd revolutionary war then get pummeled by the best army in the world and get 900 nuke fall on us….
  
  yea, lets go.
  
  We should fight with words, and hopefully not, with guns
  
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- pantokrator
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 6:39pm
  PubliusPencilMan,
  
  So we should just bow down to the great president, then? He is the president, therefore, incapable of error. He cannot be wrong, and we should give 100% loyalty to them, no matter how corrupt they are. Even if he is wrong, he’s the president, and no matter how wrong he is, we should just bend over and take it, is that what you’re saying?
  
  “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” -Thomas Jefferson.
  
  “What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?” -Thomas Jefferson.
  
  Just remember, this wonderful nation you live in is the result of men resisting tyranny. Remember that.
  
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- cessna152
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 7:07pm
  At bad kitty
  Whom do you think the military is to defend? The people from the enemy within. Read the Declaration of Independence. It is our Duty to defend freedom… An obligation.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:04pm
  “Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it.”
  ― Thomas Paine
  
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- PubliusPencilman
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:58pm
  Panto,
  
  Believe it or not, there is a lot of middle ground between bowing down to an infallible president and advocating armed resistance to the winner of the election. Don’t be such a child.
  
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- LibertarianNinja
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:06pm
  You want quotes? Here’s one!
  “I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not, nor ever hav been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races. I, as much as any other man, am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.”
  ———-Abraham Lincoln
  
  I have plenty more and I understand the context of all of them! Enough of the Lincoln worship already! Lincoln was a tyrant and a war criminal who did not want to lose the Union on his watch!
  
  “Amazing how ignorant many people are today of American History and its implications.”
  —————Bodybag
  
  Do you mind if I use that quote in other posts?
- BODYBAG
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:38pm
  @LIBERTARDED
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:06pm
  Lincoln was a tyrant and a war criminal
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  I see you just arrived 3 weeks ago from Chicago
  No one is “worshiping” Lincoln. Just quoting him.
  
  So bright boy —–school everyone on how “Lincoln was a tyrant and a war criminal”
  
  Personally I think you sound like the product of the Progressive Re-Educational Camps
  but it should be interesting
  
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- LibertarianNinja
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:56pm
  Wow Bodybag, you have resorted to name calling. I am not surprised. No more snappy quotes? I have neither the time nor the patience to “school” you or anyone else in the truth. The information is out there to be found and perused by folks who are intersted in seeking the truth. For you to call me a product of progressive re-education camps shows me and everyone else here that you have no idea what the word “progressive” really means. I will waste no more of my time on you.
  
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- Meggars53
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:42pm
  The revolution will start here in The People’s Socialist Republic of California. With super majorities in both houses and Gov moonbeam, they will attempt to take our weapons starting next year. They can have mine when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers. I am a veteran.
  
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Pantloadian
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:15am
No one is coming to take your guns. And no one is hiding under the bed. And the mailman is not part of a sleeper cell. And Trump is not a human being. Stop believing the ridiculous.
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:23am
  - Said Hitler to Germany in the 1930′s
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:24am
  Pantloadian – Member Since: October 27, 2012
  
  New or retread troll.
  
  HeII, you are not even entertaining.
  
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- OnwardThroughTheFog
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:28am
  You sound like you’re full of a ‘pantload’. Just keep being naive. Trust us, we wouldn’t do anything to take away your Constitutional rights……..Obama’s been working at it every day (Fast & Furious cover-up comes to mind) and now feels real empowered to do it. Keep being a ‘sheep’.
  
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- Freedoms Patriot
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:53am
  “How we burned in the prison camps later thinking:
  
  What would things have been like if every police operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? If during periods of mass arrests people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever was at hand? The organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt.”
  
  Alexander Solzhenitsyn (1918-2008) Russian Novelist and Historian
  
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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:54am
  @Pantload,
  
  Perhaps you are right. You can resolve that in what is left of your new country. As for the rest of us, we’ll figure it out in the new constitutional republic that needs to be born. I pray I see it in my lifetime.
  
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- dogmeat
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:57am
  IF you truly think that,Then YOU TRULY are a FOOL!
  
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- Argo
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:00am
  Pantloadian, why don’t you go bait someone else becuase we’re not biting. Nor will we be.
  
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- Freedoms Patriot
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:06am
  “How we burned in the prison camps later thinking:
  
  What would things have been like if every police operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? If during periods of mass arrests people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever was at hand? The organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt.”
  
  Alexander Solzhenitsyn (1918-2008) Russian Novelist and Historian
  
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- Owt_Raged
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:18am
  We’re from the government, we’re here to help you. A lie, even bigger than “The check is in the mail”
  
  Evidently, you are not a student of history.
  
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- mercenary4freedom
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:33am
  LOADINPANTS = WaNGO
  
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- morerightrudder
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:52am
  It’s like the frog in the pan of water. If you put a frog in boiling water he will jump right out. If you put him in lukewarm water and gradually turn up the heat, he won’t notice it until it is too late. Same principle. I don’t trust any of them. If that makes me paranoid then so be it.
  
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- drphil69
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:57am
  Funny, every govt that does take away guns, always says they aren’t going to…
  
  Then, of course, the people inevitably become slaves to the state, and many are ‘eliminated’ for the good of society of course…
  
  Probably something you agree, huh pantsload? I got news for you, the “useful” idiots are the first to be eliminated.
  
  Good luck with that, pantsload!
  
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- arrjay
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:58am
  Pantloadian: Don’t be so sure!
  This is the “Arms Trade Treaty” that the Bush administration opposed. As the draft is written any small arm you purchase will be required to be registered; in your name, in the country of origin of the gun. That record must be held for 20 years!
  Popp40, you’re correct. Obama is not flying under the radar any more!
  
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- West Coast Patriot
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 1:20pm
  Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve, All of us have a chance at being part of the new Republic for The United States of America if we choose to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYleC7l86ys&feature=plcp
  
  It is set up and waiting for the collapse to take back our true government. Reps from every state, an interim President and Vice President, and the Constitution restored to its original true meaning and Bill of Rights. http://www.republicfortheunitedstates.org/
  
  The more that sign up for the new America, the stronger we will be when the time to pounce is here. Research it.
  
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- 83plus
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 1:58pm
  @Pantloadian
  
  Go ahead; prove to us that this treaty is what you claim it to be and not what we say it does. Prove to us that it in no way, shape or form corrupts, defies, eliminates or terminates the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution.
  
  Go ahead present your evidence, or will we have to wait until it’s enacted before we learn what’s in it and what really does? Why not, the Democrats did that with the health care bill, ‘You have to pass it to find out what’s in it.’ The democrat’s ‘transparency’ did us a lot of good didn’t it; worked out well with the stimulus bill and those closed door meetings didn’t it?
  
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- old white guy
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:41pm
  i want to see one american actually stand up and do what they say they will do. i have read and posted for several years now and i see no evidence of anyone willing to really fight for their freedom. glen wants to pray. ok, pray. prayer without action is the same as us typing words into the blogosphere. it will fix zip, zero, nada.
  
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- Uechi
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:48pm
  You sure are a load a load of crap. If you think for one minute that the Messiah and his lefty horde wouldn’t strip you of every Constitutional Right to satisfy their commie agenda then you are the biggest dumbo on the planet. Any such resolution has to approved by the Senate Barry can’t just sign off. If the Dems want to commit suicide figuratively and literally go ahead and see what happens. Many gun owners will submit many more will not. You want a war try and remove the 2nd Amendment. From my cold dead fingers.
  
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- Sgt_Rock
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 6:05pm
  Said Chamberlain to the British after meeting with Hitler…Said Nixon to the South Vietnamese after we abandoned them…Said Carter to the Shah of Iran…
  
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- RepubliCorp
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:08pm
  OLD WHITE GUY……… agree 100%
  
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- GlenKnows
  Posted on November 9, 2012 at 7:59am
  Did any of these people actually read the article?
  Don’t worry no one is taking your guns, so you can still feel big and brave and keeps your guns.
  
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- Tachy320
  Posted on November 9, 2012 at 11:17am
  I hope they dont, but its happens in our lifetime in Australia and in our parents and grandparents in England. Its happened in New Orleans after Katrina. Lie i said, I hope it doesn’t happen, but i have plans if it does. It will start with so called assault weapons, then semiautomatic handguns when the rest of them.
  Just pray that our country will be intact in four years and there will be another election. I know who holds my future and it ain’t Obama.
  Im not a vet, but thank you to all those who have and are still serving me. No greater love hath any man that gives his life for a friend.
  
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Zeke48
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:13am
Stash your Brass, and do’t keep all your firearms in the same place. It won’t be long after they pass this Treaty that they will come to your house to collect them from you. Place an add in the paper to sell all of them, and when they come looking, tell them you sold them all. Don’t give up the one thing that could keep your family alive need be. This Administration, with that POS Holder in charge, you can’t put anything past him and his clones. Stay safe. Don’t ever forget that you are an American. Country, Duty, Honor. These bast$&@s work for us so don’t let them forget it!!!

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- MACCAFAN67
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:24am
  Amen. Exactly what i plan on doing!
  
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- 1000-yd-stare
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:31am
  Stand your ground on this. If you give them the 2nd Amendment they’ll take the rest.
  
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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:00am
  @1000 yard,
  
  You better change your avatar brother. The SS will be on your doorstep in no time. There are better ways to prove your point.
  
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- skippy6
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 3:54pm
  I think you are not to far off base…. The control freak in office can get away with anything…….He lets our people die and does not even care……
  
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- TheCalmOne
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 5:10pm
  1000-YD-STARE – do you think maybe the FBI might be reading this site occasionally?
  
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- RLTW
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 7:23pm
  I see a Christian cross imposed over BHO, fantastic he’s found faith.
  
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Popp40
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:11am
So who on here really thinks that if this treaty is passed will actually stop arms from coming into the countries this treaty is suppose to “protect”……or will it just limit the American citizens?

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- 00100111
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:05am
  It’s a warm fuzzy treaty that will make them feel like they’re “doing something about it” but will accomplish nothing but make it harder on people who never had any desire to smuggle arms or illicitly trade them, anyway. The US Govt is the biggest illicit arms dealer in the world, just look where al Qaeda and Syria are getting their arms. This will do nothing but make it harder on us for no reason.
  
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PA PATRIOT
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:11am
BHO + UN + H.Clinton = Global Governance

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- bekhiet
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 12:06pm
  That is NOT a pretty picture. With globalization they believe in extreme cuts to the population.
  
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petemg
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:09am
We do not need the UN to make decisions for us. Is this the beginning of removing more rights from us? Why is Obama trying to allow to dictate to us.

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- GYSGT1985
  Posted on November 9, 2012 at 1:22am
  All of the walking dead who voted for King Barry and his court will be the first to cry foul when all of their rights are removed because their rights under the second ammendment went first. I am ready, willing and more than able to resist the tyranny.
  
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Bumpintheroad
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:04am
What the treaty does is decide for every country, every group of people around the world, whether or not thier cause is a just one by rewarding or withholding the right to buy arms.

It decides which groups can buy guns and defend themselves. it decides which groups are viable and which are not.

In short it sets the UN up to be the deciders of right and wrong, the deciders of freedom vs tyranny.

Has the UN be unbiased in all it’s history?

Is this something we really want?

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- PilgrimStuckInBizarroWorld
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:31am
  You are exactly right!
  
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- Southern Yankee
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:20pm
  Will Iran comply?????????
  
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huey6367
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:04am
My advice, buy a gun and hide it so they can’t take it later.

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- TSUNAMI_22
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:16am
  My advice, buy a gun and learn how to use it well, so they can’t take it.
  
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- highcarry
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 5:44pm
  my advice. learn the difference between the time to hide them and the time to get them out.
  
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- lbesq
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:35pm
  What Gun, I have not Guns! The ones I bought long ago, went to my Father when I joined the Military, because I could not transport them to Germany. He Died in 1991, I have no Idea what happened to them, I think they were sold to pay his Hospital Bills, Well over $500,000. What Guns, Wish I had one so I could hunt and provide for my family. Kinda sucks when you can not even make enough money to pay even the,house,fuel,Electricity, let alone food. I will defend my home/Family, with WHATEVER comes to hand when the time comes.
  
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AbrahamsSheepdog
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:00am
So the mid east can all have guns?

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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:36am
  AbrahamsSheepdog Member since Nov 5, 2012.
  
  I still think you are disturbed or a plant.
  
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AbrahamsSheepdog
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:55am
He cant have my heart. I choose how I react. I am royalty because my Father’s King. Time is up. Katie bar the door.

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- crazyrightwingmom
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:54am
  Love that. Yes! We are royalty. Our heart is ours!
  
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scrapadapolis
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:53am
Hey Obama,If you think any excutive order will give the UN any power over a system of laws that were written when this country was founded,And have based our lives on,You better becareful.And in the same breath since Islam is a cult of violence written and followed and lived by in the east,I’d like to see you disarm and change eastern ways of life.I think you wont open that can of worms.

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BlackCrow
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:52am
A month ago the NRA was telling me this was a dead issue. Think again! If you do not belong to the NRA and Gun Owners of America, join NOW!!!

They will get my guns…..bullets first!

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- Recceman90
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:07am
  Amen!
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:19am
  “This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it. ”
  ———Abraham Lincoln
  
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Popp40
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:51am
Guess Obama isn’t flying under the radar anymore!

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resme
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:49am
Revolution lets restore our constitution!

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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:57am
  Careful brother. There are perhaps more…tactful…ways of accomplishing that than screaming it aloud and charging the phalanx.
  
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- resme
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:26am
  Wouldn’t do that, :). Peaceful resist. No violence, yet. It will come to violence, Sadly enough. I hope people resist before it’s too late to resist.
  
  I hope and pray Good Americans get off their knees.
  
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- highcarry
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 5:42pm
  and drive the u.n. from our shores.
  
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Lady_of_the_Lake
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:48am
I will not abide by or yeild to ANY resolution,treaty or whatever they care to call the NWO agenda coming out of that Cess Pool of unelected MegloManiacs…….

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noslave
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:48am
right out of the how to become a dictator handbook,disarm the peasants??he already controlls the lame stream media keeping americans in the dark of facts?, his biased justice dept,etc.??the only thing left is to protect his cowardly ass from retaliation??

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JerseyBatman
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:46am
Liberals don’t have guns so they don’t want you to have them, but it don’t matter. I have plenty and just let anyone come and try to take them. The second Civil War is about to begin

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- Armyvet706
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 6:21pm
  I’m behind you all the way. Bring it on! Hooraah!
  
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- 1RealAmerican
  Posted on November 9, 2012 at 8:45am
  Count me in.. mig’ht me our only option,,,,
  
  Just sayin….
  
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dman78
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:45am
President Obama…Uphold your Oath…Keep you hands off my Constitutional rights

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- Gonzo
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:33am
  Why should he? He trampled the rights of American citizenry for four years and we re-elected him.
  
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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:58am
  Do you submit to airport porno scanners? If you don’t, what do you say to the mouthbreathers sticking blue gloved hands down your pants?
  
  Why wait for the 2nd to disappear when the 4th is already nearly gone?
  
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- Wyoming_Patriot
  Posted on November 9, 2012 at 11:05am
  I don’t comply with pornoscanners or groping by gloved hands. If I drive my own vehicle, I am not subjected to any scrutiny as yet and I get to see the scenery between point A and point B. I also do not have to provide any details about myself or my travels to anyone except those I choose.
  
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AbrahamsSheepdog
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:44am
Nimrods time is now. UN is collapsed but they have a roll. Game is afoot. Chess at its ugliest level. Played by demons. Much more to come. Goliath will fall again. God is still God.

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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:56am
  AbrahamsSheepdog Member since Nov 5, 2012.
  
  I still think you are disturbed and/or a plant.
  
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- Pizzoft
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:12pm
  I think this guy is a complete idiot!
  
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- Pizzoft
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:28pm
  Everyone has to understand that our president does not think the same as we do. He never went shooting with his father. His grandfather didn’t take him hunting in the woods. He doesn’t relate he is a foreigner, he grew up in other countries where guns are what the bad guys have. This is why you don’t elect a foreigner as the president of the greatest nation on earth, he wants to make it like all the crap places he grew up in.
  
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biohazard23
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:43am
And we are supposed to believe the UN and the regime because….?

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:00am
  BIOHAZARD, Morning. Where are all of those trolls who kept saying here how 0bama had said nor done anything if reference to gun control when we brought it up. Now, the day after the election he wants to control all guns and keep them out of the hands of the average citizen. So, to you libs who said this, and you know who you are. I’ll just call you a collective of liars or dupes.
  
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- biohazard23
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:16am
  Morning, RJ. I’m guessing those trolls are still recovering from their celebratory hangover. I just can’t believe that there are so many people who still believe that Dear Leader is an alright guy. What will they say and do when we run out of other people’s money and turn into Greece? They’ll be screaming about no one doing anything to save them and their handouts, that’s what. Meanwhile, they will have forgotten that they had a chance to put things back on the right track but they blew it. Looks like we will be suffering these fools for a looooong time to come.
  
  Like I said yesterday, I weep for our nation’s future.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:35am
  @Bio
  
  What will they do? They’ll blame us of course. They are cultists, their dogma is flawless, so any issues arising must necessarily come from others, not themselves nor their dogma.
  
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Displacedsoutherner
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:42am
As suspected, a 2% margin of victory in the popular vote is now a “resounding victory” for BHO and his policies. With Obama’s longstanding hostility toward and disapproval of the US Constitution, it’s only going to get worse.

The new 49 Percenters who believe in America as founded are in for a long 4 years under King Barry’s thumb.

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- Gonzo
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:10am
  Four years I could do standing on my head. This is the new normal. The country we loved is gone. We are basically Greece now, the bottom just hasn’t completely fallen out yet…but it’s coming.
  
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flyoverbob
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:39am
This is only the beginning,this is what four more years is going to look like

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- Gonzo
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:56am
  Roger that. Even though the great one didn’t campaign on this, he now has a “mandate” on it. Same goes for all the other things he plans on showing his ‘flexibility’ on.
  
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Cavallo
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:38am
Surprise Surprise Surprise… This is the part that will be under the radar. Wanna bet they can find enough RINOs to vote to ratify? They need what? 5?

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- Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:45am
  If anything they will achieve the same by executive order – unconstitutional yes, yet he has gone around Congress so much that it is not a hard leap of the imagination to see him making the effort.
  
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- resme
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:46am
  Graham, McPain, lieberman, That’s three.
  
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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:30am
  I wonder if this treaty will prohibit the CIA and American taxpayer from arming Al Qaeda to fight against oil producers threatening the dollar hegemony? Yeah, probably not.
  
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Voter713
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:38am
Can I invest in the blackmarket? BC soon its going to have major $$ flow.

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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:36am
Treaties do not override the bill of rights. Ever.

The article also notes it won’t affect domestic sales or rights. I dislike the treaty, but it’s probably not “all that” which some gun organizations make it out to be. That said, I’ll need to actually read it and get the factual details before I dismiss it (or rail against it).

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- copatriots
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:41am
  I noticed that comment also, GHOST, but feel like it’s “one step at a time”. Make no mistake…..the Regime wants to disarm the American people. Well….at least the honest, conservative, Christian ones.
  
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- U.N.hater
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:43am
  It’s the U.N. how much more info. do you need!? How much does this POS have to do before we rise up and say NO MORE!
  
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- Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:44am
  @Ghost:
  
  I don’t think such niceties as laws and such matter any to Obama; he will use such a treaty to do as much damage as possible to the second amendment even if just by executive order.
  
  The man cares nothing for the nation, and all too many of his followers will disarm themselves by choice if he calls upon them to do so. Homeland Security and other departments will find it much easier to use those guns and millions of rounds of ammo on an unarmed or limited arms bearing population.
  
  Somehow even having ‘grandfathered’ in guns will not mater.
  
  Obama will control all and rule all or destroy it completely.
  
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- Southpaw
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:51am
  That’s what I thought, Ghost. Dick Morris was on a local radio station here. He stated that treaties DO take precedent over the Constitution. I’m not a scholar, but Dick Morris isn’t likely to lie about that. They were even talking about this, but it was a few months ago before it was put on hold until the election. The hosts asked, “So if the Senate ratifies a treaty and the President signs it, they can take away freedom of speech?” Morris responded, “Yes. That’s why this election is so important.”
  
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- Banter
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:54am
  Ghost,
  
  My initial reaction is similar to yours concerning this specific treaty. However, as I have said many times here, we will see more and more UN influence on our government policies if obama is reelected, and this is one example.
  obama supports the UN, and since he believes that America pillaged the third-world countries, it is only natural he would support a UN whose sole purpose is to right those perceived wrongs by stealing the wealth and sovereignty of America (global warming, LOST, agenda 21, etc.)
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:58am
  @South,
  
  Dick is incorrect. Treaties become law of the land ALONG with the Constitution. It’s right there in the Constitution. Ergo, if a treaty were signed that said “The Constitution is now null and void”, according to the Constitution that would be contradictory and thus invalid or unenforceable. Since the BOR is part of the Constitution, well, there you go.
  
  @Snow – I agree law means nothing to them. That said, they wouldn’t need a treaty to try and ban firearms in that case, they’d just try it.
  
  There’s a 110+ million gun owners out here. That’s larger that pretty much the sum of worldwide militaries combined. Nobody wants to set that “army” off, I guarantee you. They will try incrementalism, and very slow at that, if they ever try to disarm us. Big sweeping “laws” would result in their immediate extinction, and they know it.
  
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- copatriots
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:08am
  Evil relentlessly pursues it’s agenda. Incrementalism indeed. Much as marijuana is becoming legal and gay marriage is advanced, disarming Americans will no doubt push FORWARD.
  
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- 1911CK
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:26am
  @Southpaw-Morris is trying to sell more of his stupid books. As Ghost of Jefferson says a treaty cannot supersede the Constitution. Morris has no credibility left. And to all of you NRA members in PA, in OH that voted for Obama, I hope they do come and take your guns away, because you are clearly too stupid to own a firearm.
  
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- studdgage
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 12:02pm
  Treaties do over ride the bill of rights if it gets ratified by congress then it becomes law! Dont put it past obama to do an executive order to make it law. And if the treaty does pass then they can disarm us with in that treaties law.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 12:45pm
  False Studdage. Read your Constitution.
  
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- galtsgulch
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 1:22pm
  Ive read the first draft, and what it DOES do is set up mandatory registration for EVERY small arm in the countries that sign. Also sets up plenty of new agencies and gestapos. I dont care what they do. this treaty will be null and void in my mind and i wont comply. What kind of suicidal idiot would give there enemies a list of every weapon they have? This is a no brainer.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 2:10pm
  @Galts
  
  You would be wise to avoid any type of registrations, yes, clearly.
  
  Rights are rights after all, not privileges and not subject to leaders conditions. One doesn’t register when one buys a newspaper, same here.
  
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- ChappellGirl5
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 3:01pm
  “how to cook a frog” comes to mind here. In case you don’t know the answer, it is this: Take a live frog, put it in water that is the same temp as its bog/pond. Let it sit there for a bit, then turn up the heat just a little bit, after a little while turn the heat up again, ever so slightly, eventually you will have the heat up full & the water boiling. The frog could have jumped out anytime in the early stages, but didn’t realize his danger until it was too late. That’s what’s happening to this nation.
  
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- uzi4u2
  Posted on November 8, 2012 at 5:49pm
  We are so boned. Thanks all you liberal/progressive aszzwipes out there. I hope you like the fire.You’ll be the first to go, useful idiots always are.
  
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