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‘Wilkow!:’ House GOP Moving to Repeal ObamaCare Tax on States Without Health Insurance Exchanges

Nov. 8, 2012 8:26pm

House Republicans have taken on a new strategy in their fight to derail ObamaCare, using an expedited legislative procedure to upend targeted parts of the law. Roll Call reports that Republican Reps. Darrell Issa and Scott DesJarlais will back a resolution to nullify the upcoming IRS rule authorizing the distribution of subsidies through tax credits in every state as an incentive to get most Americans to buy insurance. Michael Cannon of the Cato Institute writes that the rule “unlawfully taxes employers and individuals” in the over 30 states that have not yet created their own health insurance exchanges as part of the 2010 law.

Republican leaders are preparing to launch the effort to repeal he rule during the post-election session that begins Nov. 13. Cannon joined “Wilkow!” Thursday to discuss the IRS rule in question, and Republicans’ plan to repeal it as a path to derail ObamaCare:

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Comments (40)

  • Saff SGT
    Posted on November 10, 2012 at 9:59am

    Fight, Fight, Fight, lets get this right as of now stop this noncense in its tracks just do not comply we have 56 million folks to support this defaet of obama care

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  • Saff SGT
    Posted on November 10, 2012 at 9:50am

    all good states should with hold sending money to Fed Gov in DC. Whats Obama going to do carpet bomb all these states??/ hahaha lets get Obama care down and out for ever lets fight back

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    Saff SGT  
  • Spitfire1938
    Posted on November 9, 2012 at 7:11am

    Think ahead people.! American’s are confronted by absolute disaster. Over the years the idea of “Social Security” has been legitimized and we’ve all bought into it. “When’ they collapse the dollar “Social Security” ends!!!! That’s why they insist SS is safe and solvent. That’s why reform has never been seriously pursued.
    This takeover has been ongoing for a very long time, and the ‘Theater” surrounding and protecting the secret of it’s clandestine implementation has been simply brilliant. I just lived my life as a loyal Democrat and NEVER suspected anything. The ‘brilliance’ lay in appealing to the American ‘Masses’ sense of what’s ‘Reasonable’ and ‘Just’! That ‘sense’ was, in part, shaped by the manipulation of ‘Media’ and the gradual destruction of ‘Education’!
    Now all they have to do is cut the money and suddenly ‘Everyone’s’ life is at risk; particularly those willfully or negligently dependent on Government largess. Significant numbers of people dependent on medication for their well-being and life will die, as well as the aged, the unprepared, and the young.
    Wow… “What did we do to deserve this?”, you might ask!
    We have murdered near 60 million babies; “Contracepted” away hundreds of millions more… for ‘woman’s right’s’ and the ‘unrestrained’ pursuit of our pleasure… while experiencing ‘No’ sense of guilt or remorse!
    I can’t help but think ‘Islam’ will be our judge….

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  • JACKTHETOAD
    Posted on November 9, 2012 at 5:30am

    Not according to “mr. speaker”. More like Mr. Reeker. Boehner stinks on ice!

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    JACKTHETOAD  
  • Goldilocs
    Posted on November 9, 2012 at 1:06am

    United States Congressional Record March 17, 1993 Vol. #33, page H-1303
    Speaker-Senator James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House: “Mr.
    Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11. Members of Congress are official
    trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in
    world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a
    blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner’s report that
    will lead to our demise.”

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    Goldilocs  
  • Goldilocs
    Posted on November 9, 2012 at 1:05am

    for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an
    established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955
    reads in part: “The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States.”

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    Goldilocs  
  • Goldilocs
    Posted on November 9, 2012 at 12:17am

    The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers,
    via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.
    All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating
    within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the
    Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers
    of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United
    States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an
    established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America.
    This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the
    Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the
    International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955
    reads in part: “The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for
    representing the United States.”

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    Goldilocs  
    • Oilfield_Trash
      Posted on November 9, 2012 at 12:29am

      WOW….. Not surprised, the communist party has been hard at work since before FDR’s time. But, if this is true, why the slow decades long transition that has been going on since that time. I mean, the actions that have been taken since that time, if you read the Cloward-Piven strategy, we are almost there, I mean why all the machinations that the Communists have had in play? (I honestly don’t know, can’t agree with or refute your post, does anyone have any additional information along these lines?) Regardless, thanks for the information, gives me somewhere else to dig!!

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    • Oilfield_Trash
      Posted on November 9, 2012 at 12:40am

      The provisions of the act were as follows:

      Title I
      Section 1. To affirm any orders or regulations the President or Secretary of the Treasury had given since March 4, 1933.
      Section 2. To give the President the ability to declare a national emergency and have absolute control over the national finances and foreign exchange of the United States in the event of such an emergency.

      Section 3. To authorize the Secretary of the Treasury to order any individual or organization in the United States to deliver any gold that they possess or have custody of to the Treasury in return for “any other form of coin or currency coined or issued under the laws of the United States”.

      Section 4. To make it illegal for a bank to do business during a national emergency (per section 2) without the approval of the President.
      Title II.

      To enable the Comptroller of the Currency (a post in the US Treasury) to take complete control of and operate any bank in the United States or its territories and to establish the terms and conditions under which bank is administered.
      Title III.

      To allow banks to not allow debt to extinguish the use of stock.
      Title IV.

      Section 401. To allow Federal Reserve banks to convert any US debt obligation (such as a bond) into cash at par value and any check, draft, banker acceptance, etc, into cash at 90% of its apparent value.
      Section 402. To allow the Federal Reserve banks to make unsecured loans to any member bank at an interest rate of 1% over the

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      Oilfield_Trash  
    • Saff SGT
      Posted on November 10, 2012 at 9:54am

      cute but 56 million folks many have Guns and thats what it will take to defend the real America. Use them if you have to

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      Saff SGT  
  • Goldilocs
    Posted on November 9, 2012 at 12:17am

    Someone forwarded this to me, it says we are no longer considered a republic…

    United States Congressional Record March 17, 1993 Vol. #33, page H-1303
    Speaker-Senator James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House: “Mr.
    Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11. Members of Congress are official
    trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in
    world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a
    blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner’s report that
    will lead to our demise.”
    It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been
    dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public
    Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent.
    H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress in session June 5, 1933 – Joint Resolution To
    Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the
    Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all
    United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further
    evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name
    only.

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    Goldilocs  
    • michaelmoron
      Posted on January 17, 2013 at 12:28pm

      @Goldilocs

      I hear you loud and clear.

      People are asleep. I have been trying so long to wake them up.

      I hope you are safe.

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      michaelmoron  
  • elderbat
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:40pm

    made up my mind a long time ago that I would not comply with this mandate…civil disobedience. they’ll have to jail me because I won’t pay any fines or fill out any of their forms, period. my ancestors did not fight in the revolutionary war for this. if enough of us take a stand, what are they gonna do? soldiers give their lives to protect our freedom. they do not do so in vain.

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    elderbat  
    • ALL4FREEDOM
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:56pm

      Exactly right. I am responsible for my own health care costs and will NOT buy health insurance. I see no lawful reason why I should be taxed or penalized (take your pick) for paying my own bills. When the tax kicks in I’ll stop filing tax returns. They can send me to jail where I’ll have three hots and a cot plus free medical care. Screw ‘em!

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      ALL4FREEDOM  
    • Oilfield_Trash
      Posted on November 9, 2012 at 12:09am

      I completly agree, I spent several years in the USMC, and I can’t believe that my service (and millions of others) has come to this. The moral degredation of the populace is completly appalling. We defiently need to take back our country, because if they get their way, there is no where else to go. We are completly divided, I have never had that type of attitude, but the last 4+ years have given me a “with us, or against us” mind set.

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      Oilfield_Trash  
    • Saff SGT
      Posted on November 10, 2012 at 9:56am

      good, many will do the same and regular folks like me who dant have a business will back you folks

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      Saff SGT  
  • Oilfield_Trash
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 11:13pm

    “TAXMAGEDDON” is coming, ObamaCare, Carbon Tax, Higher Tax rates, individual excemtions being cut, (not including what individual states / cities will have to adjust to survive) etc… Just sick and tired of being sick and tired. Regardless of anyone’s income level, whether they call it a “Tax” or not, get ready. Oh, and for the folks that are “ecstatic” that they have voted in their Messiah, look at Greece….. Oh yeah, it’s coming. I hope I’m wrong, but it sure feels we have lost the Republic.

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    Oilfield_Trash  
  • SandyfromChesterfield
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:44pm

    Missouri residents passed a law on Tuesday saying the governor could not make exchanges,

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  • Armyforlife
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:26pm

    I found this from AUG12…regardless of content it at least provides a map of how states break out

    http://www.kff.org/healthreform/upload/8213-2.pdf

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    Armyforlife  
  • capitalismrocks
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:53pm

    Are there enough Governor’s now to possibly have a Constitution Convention? Perhaps its time to stop the Fed cold by passing an Amendment that States don’t send their taxes to the Fed, that the Fed should have to request funding from States and then the States will generously give some money to the Fed, within a budget instead of the other way around where the States give the Fed all their money and then the Fed generously spreads a few crumbs back to the States, minus the Fed’s overhead… so how about putting the squeeze on the Fed and reduce it back down to size.

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    capitalismrocks  
  • EqualJustice
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:51pm

    Might as well go for it. SO many of BO’s friends and donors have WAIVERS anyway. What a JOKE.

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    EqualJustice  
  • TSUNAMI_22
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:48pm

    There’s an easy non-violent way to repeal ObamaCare:

    TAX STRIKE

    They can’t jail all of us.

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    TSUNAMI_22  
    • BODYBAG
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 10:10pm

      A New American Revolution! When Will It Start? How Will It Start?
      http://www.redstate.com/jkilgore1776/2012/02/17/a-new-american-revolution-when-will-it-start-how-will-it-start/

      “Believe me, there will be no change no matter who we elect. Even the most ardent Tea Party believers get elected and then find they don’t have the ability to change Washington. Either they can’t or they change their views because they don’t want to risk what they now have, meaning risk losing their next election and their cushy and powerful job in Washington. We will have to “force” change. Make no doubt about it otherwise it is not going to happen and what Ron Paul envisions will become reality one day.”

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      BODYBAG  
  • TORCH9
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:29pm

    Is there a list of these States please?

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    TORCH9  
  • 1_Smoot_Tall
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:27pm

    The voting parasites now outnumber the voting hosts.

    If we all refuse to participate in Obamacare they cannot fine/jail us all.

    I am now using a cash only doctor. Soon we will be back to house calls.

    An underground economy is already flourishing. By direct trade with one another whenever possible, we can escape the slavery of the parasites and programs like Obamacare.

    I have done work for everything from shampoo to frozen meats on occasion.

    I am also a member of trade exchanges.

    No cash = no taxes = no parasites = an end to my slavery.

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  • PrivateRyan
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:25pm

    You can fight it forever, but you don’t need to. Just buy some time, until things start falling apart and no one would care about Obamacare.

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  • Cosmos102
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:05pm

    This is the BEST NEWS I have heard all day. Keep up the fight House Republicans! Don’t back down. Repeal Obamacare! Yes.

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    Cosmos102  
  • BODYBAG
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:56pm

    Thank God in heaven we still have the House and some good people in it.
    At the moment that is the only thread the Republic is hanging by.
    I hope they ram it up Barry’s @ss every single day for the next 4 years.

    Im thankful my state was one of the ones that picked up a Republican Governor
    as well as many new Republican seats in its legislature. We’re dominated now
    by conservatives on the state level.

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    BODYBAG  
    • rickc34
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:07pm

      Go team go.

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      rickc34  
    • right-wing-waco
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:45pm

      I agree, refuse to cooperate with the commie in chief and if he writes his own laws, start impeachment proceedings. I do not intend to live or die under communism.

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      right-wing-waco  
    • Goldilocs
      Posted on November 9, 2012 at 1:04am

      United States Congressional Record March 17, 1993 Vol. #33, page H-1303 Speaker-Senator James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House: “Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in
      world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, ablueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner’s report that will lead to our demise.”
      It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress in session June 5, 1933 – Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the
      Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only. The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.
      All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of governme

      Report this comment

      Goldilocs  
  • DavidintheD
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:48pm

    Please anything to derail this abomination would be fantastic.

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  • vennoye
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:40pm

    Anything that will help undo Obamacare will be wonderful! The parts of it that have already been instituted in RX are terrible. Dr gave me a presciption for sinus/allergies that before would have $30. copay and because the insurance company had changed what part they paid on it, it would have been $216 copay. People just don’t know how badly they are going to be hit all the way down the line.

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  • CatB
    Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:36pm

    Whatever it takes .. I’ll bet those people in the states where they are setting them up .. are going to be P.O’d … I am in on of the 30 that haven’t.

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    CatB  
    • Eleutheria
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 8:43pm

      My state doesn’t have one and we just passed a ballot measure preventing any such exchange being implemented without legislative approval and a vote of the people.

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      Eleutheria  
    • FTHEDEMS
      Posted on November 8, 2012 at 9:40pm

      Eleutheria……If you dont mind,.,.,can you name your state???
      …I would like to read the legislation…

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      FTHEDEMS  

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