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7 Reasons the GOP Should Be Worried About Its Future
Tuesday night’s election result has left conservatives (and reportedly Romney himself) shell-shocked, dumbfounded and a little traumatized by the seemingly gravity-defying political skills of President Barack Obama. Obama, who has won reelection to the office of president with the highest unemployment rate since Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and facing Carter-esque trends in terms of the United States’ strength abroad, was supposed to be the most vulnerable president in recent memory, and arguably the one whose opponents should have felt most confident about defeating — especially in the wake of a late campaign surge by Republican Mitt Romney after a decisive debate defeat for Obama.
Because of these trends, many Republicans and commentators (this author included) dismissed early warning signs that despite running a terrible campaign, Obama was still leading in the polls because of an increasingly Democratic electorate. Polling samples showing increased Democrat leads were denounced as the result of media-biased induced sampling errors, rather than genuinely frightening signs of danger. As a result, Obama eked out a sleeper victory, and many Republicans — confronted with the brutal reality that their victory was not so assured as possible — have since wondered what exactly went wrong.
As it turns out, a lot more than anyone could have seen coming went wrong, which is why so many on the Right are now talking of the need for a drastic retooling of conservative policy positions, while (in most cases) still defending root conservative principles. After all, without a winning coalition, ideologies inevitably end up on the ash heap of history. The following are seven reasons why Republicans should be worried about facing this potential electoral wipeout.
7. How “Pro-Life” Became “Pro-Rape”
Prior to the 2012 election cycle, Democrats tended to treat their stances on social issues as distractions, and rarely grounded their case for reelection on them unless they were facing safe electorates. This was especially the case with abortion, where the radical feminist wing of the Democratic party had a tendency to stick its foot in its mouth by treating unborn children as parasites, and to argue that any restriction, no matter how titular, upon a woman’s “right” to an abortion was an attack upon the very idea of female self-determination.
This led Democrats to walk on proverbial eggshells while discussing the issue of abortion, usually couching it in vagueness. Republicans, by contrast, who usually argued for the issue being resolved at the state level (and for the retraction of the extremely dubious Supreme Court precedents cementing abortion as a right), could openly discuss their pro-life views without worrying as much about damaging their prospects. In fact, arguably the only thing Republicans really had to worry about was being careful to frame their views on abortion as still holding compassion for unwilling mothers, either by including exceptions for rape and incest, or by eloquently and carefully explaining the importance of not murdering innocents, even in those morally difficult cases.
All that changed when Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) uttered two words: “Legitimate rape.”
Those two words may go down as the phrase that put the entire Republican party on the defensive surrounding abortion. After Akin’s scientifically illiterate mega-gaffe (and the frantic push by practically every conservative in America to get him to drop out), liberals pounced. Previous skirmishes surrounding contraception – such as the controversy over Rush Limbaugh attacking Sandra Fluke – had already put the GOP at defensive pains to explain that it did not want to return to the sexual mores of the 50′s when it came to women’s health and reproductive freedom. Akin’s comments left the impression that he didn’t view pregnancies resulting from rape (actually a depressingly common phenomenon) as a problem worth even thinking about.
As a result, liberals were free to make the case that the GOP wanted to transform women into brood mares not only with dubious martyrs like Sandra Fluke, but also with the words of a candidate for US Senate. Subsequent utterances late in the game by Tea Party candidate Richard Mourdock only reinforced the unfair perception being peddled by the Democrats that “pro-life” meant “pro-rape.” Thus, the usual roles surrounding arguments over abortion flipped, with liberals taking the stance of outraged defenders of innocent people (in this case, rape victims) against conservatives, who had to frantically protest that they had no desire to hurt anyone.
Fortunately for conservatives, this particular problem may not last more than this election cycle, given that both candidates who reinforced it lost what should have been easy pickup seats. However, liberals are unlikely to forget the effectiveness of using sensitive issues like rape as rhetorical traps, and as such, the world is now a much less safe place for pro-life candidates.
And this isn’t the only problem the GOP has with gender…
6. The “Julia”-fication of the Female Vote
Back in May, the Obama campaign released what appeared to many at the time like an exercise in self-parody: A series of slides depicting the fictional life of a woman named “Julia,” who seemed to rely at practically every turn on government programs to lead a good life. Julia’s story stretched from childhood through old age, and as many remarked at the time, seemed to include a mystifying absence of any relevant community figures, whether they be friends, romantic partners, employers, religious leaders or even her own parents. What’s worse, all of these seemingly vital human relationships in Julia’s life had been completely subsumed by the government.
Conservatives laughed at this and kept on laughing when the Obama campaign released an even more insulting (and seemingly desperate) follow-up in late October in the form of the infamous “Lena Dunham ad,” in which a Hollywood actress all but explicitly compared voting for the first time to having sex for the first time:
The reason for this derision was and is quite clear: That liberals would win women voters seemed impossible, given how insulting, patronizing and seemingly creepy their view of women’s decision-making looked to conservatives.
Flash forward to election night. The exit polls show Republicans losing women voters to Democrats by 10 points. Single women, the group apparently targeted by both the above ads went 2-1 for President Obama. At best, this means that this view of women won’t do any damage to the Democrats. At worst, it may actually have helped them.
Granted, the exit polls do leave some room for optimism on this front. David C. Wilson at the Huffington Post has written an article showing that relative to the population at large, Romney’s very successful showing among white women actually means he won the majority of women (more about this mathematical oddity later). However, relative to the electorate, Romney still ended up losing the female vote because of wide turnout among women in groups that were more likely to see government as their potential husband, parent, provider, and yes, even sexual partner. That this level of enthusiasm existed, given the Democrats’ patronizing approach, is a stark philosophical problem for a party that believes personal responsibility is a political winner.
And speaking of the exit polls…
5. Romney Won on the Economy
To many conservatives, this may look like a reason for optimism. It actually is arguably far worse. One of the main arguments conservatives used to comfort themselves in the face of bad poll numbers late in the campaign was the idea that no president could possibly win with this economy. This was, in fact, the center point of Romney’s political campaign: “The President cannot manage the economy effectively, whereas I (Romney) can.”
The exit polls show Romney taking a razor thin lead on who would handle the economy better. By contrast, President Obama enjoyed a decisive ten point advantage on who understood average people better. Romney still ended up falling well short of Obama. The best case scenario for Romney’s campaign here is that the voters decided the evidence of who would handle the economy was inconclusive and went for empathy as a tiebreaker. The worst case scenario is that voters heard Romney’s pitch, agreed with it, and simply didn’t care that he’d be economically competent, because they preferred someone who empathized with them.
A further, similar problem comes in the breakdown of independents. As Romney’s campaign predicted, he won by a double digit margin with independents. However, when it came to self-described moderates, he ended up losing. In fact, 17 percent of self-described “conservatives” even ended up voting for Obama! In a campaign where a candidate loses that many people he should win in spite of being successful in making his core economic pitch, the party who ran that campaign has a problem.
4. Swing States Swing Left on Social Issues
Prior to 2012, two vaunted causes of the Left (and in some cases, of right-leaning libertarians) had yet to enjoy victory at the state-level ballot box: Gay marriage and legal recreational marijuana use. The former cause especially suffered from a failure at the electoral level, as President Obama’s victory in 2008 also ushered in California’s much-despised Proposition 8, which now may end up before the Supreme Court as a potential civil rights violation.
2012 broke this trend, and broke it emphatically. Maine, previously a state that had rejected same-sex marriage, backed it by 54% over 46%. Maryland voters supported it by 51% to 49%. Washington state supported it by 52% to 48%. Minnesota rejected an amendment banning gay marriage by 52% to 48%.
Granted, these votes all came from relatively blue-leaning states. However, the really big shift leftward on social issues occurred in one of the states that ended up deciding the election for Barack Obama – namely, Colorado, where a law allowing all consumption of marijuana passed by a whopping 10 point margin. A similar law also passed in Washington state. The fact that a swing state like Colorado is moving in this direction, and that gay marriage is no longer a surefire loser, is a warning sign all on its own for the still majority social conservative GOP. Moreover, it may be a success for social libertarians that they owe to a similar share of the electorate being made up of young voters to the share that existed in 2008.
And on that note…
3. Young Voters are Social Liberals, First and Foremost
Thursday, Buzzfeed posted a story on the topic of the next generation of Republican operatives. It contains findings that may shed light on the giant generational gap that still showed itself on Tuesday night:
The younger generation is at least as conservative — in some cases, more conservative — about the role of government, many of them libertarian idealists and foreign policy hawks too junior even to have been on the front lines of Bush Administration successes and failures. But they also spent their early careers stifling disgust at a kind of gay-baiting politics that has little resonance even on young social conservatives who still care deeply about abortion; and they are similarly free of any sense of allegiance to, or guilt for, Richard Nixon’s Southern strategy, with its wink at the racist policies of segregation.[...]
The wide agreement among the younger operatives on the need for a generational upgrade is matched by a near consensus on a pair of issues: gay rights and immigration. That’s a generational shift reflected by supporters’ unprecedented sweep in four ballot initiatives and referenda on Tuesday around the country. On immigration, they believe in the rule of law and support securing the border, but also want their party to get credit for a compromise solution that normalizes the status of most undocumented people in this country.
Remember, those two paragraphs are about young Republicans. The wider demographic is far less cordial, and the numbers prove it. Obama won young voters by a stunning 60-36 percent. This is smaller than his 66-31 percent victory against John McCain in 2008, but not by nearly enough. What’s worse, it is still an improvement for Democrats over their performance in 2004, when Kerry enjoyed just a 9 percent advantage with youth voters.
Moreover, the share of the electorate this year that was made up of voters aged 18-29 might have actually increased since 2008. In states like Minnesota, where gay marriage was on the ballot, the number was even higher and may have made the difference for measures like the gay marriage initiative.
To their credit, Republicans tried to make the case to these voters this year by consistently emphasizing that they would get jobs under a Romney administration. They presumably theorized that the number of young voters who are unemployed would make this problem a winning issue.
They appear to have been wrong. Whereas the Romney campaign tried to win young voters as pocket book voters, most of the Obama campaign’s messaging to young voters focused on social issues like access to contraception, or gay rights. More than a few prominent celebrities made statements that went viral on social networking sites warning young people that voting on the basis of economic issues was effectively a decision to treat gays as subhuman. These tactics appear to have been drastically more successful, and the takeaway as of now could be that a socially illiberal Republican party – especially on the question of gay marriage – has no chance at all of winning young voters.
2. Demographics
As hinted above in the section on women, GOP nominee Mitt Romney carried the white vote handily. In fact, he won whites by a wider margin than Ronald Reagan, and also took independents.
Yet unlike Reagan, Romney lost the election. Why? Because mathematically, whites made up eight percent less of the population than during the Reagan coalition. The groups who filled that gap – mostly Hispanics and Blacks – were not nearly so cordial to Romney.
Part of this problem for Romney sprang a massive failure to turn out white voters, combined with a deadly effective push among minorities via the Obama campaign. However, any party that has to virtually write off entire demographics in its electoral map is still in trouble. And as the following graphs taken from political scientist David C. Wilson show, when it came to nonwhites, Romney was in dire, dire trouble.
The problem should be obvious – in every demographic where Romney technically won the white vote, even by a whisker, he was outpaced by massive margins among minorities. Why this might be the case is less straightforward than in the case of the apparently socially motivated young voters, but it portends a coming demographic apocalypse for the GOP, given that the minority population has steadily grown and the white population has steadily shrunk since the 80′s. The Reagan coalition simply isn’t big enough to win a majority of the country anymore, and new sources of votes need to be found.
The silver lining is that many Republican leaders already understand this problem. The day after the election, Newt Gingrich told CNN that “inclusion” had to be the watchword of the GOP when it came to minorities:
And just for our audience, there’s a difference between outreach and inclusion. Outreach is when five white guys have a meeting and call you. Inclusion is when you’re in the meeting, which inherently changes the whole tenor of the meeting. This will be a big challenge for the House Republicans. They’re a very comfortable majority; with a Democratic president they’re likely to stay a majority for a long time. The question is do they want to, in a disciplined way, create a schedule and a program and include people who are not traditionally Republican order to grow a party that in 2016 is competitive.
Moreover, the demographic groups involved here may shift with time. Megan McCardle at the Daily Beast writes:
Ethnic coalitions are inherently unstable. It used to be a sort of natural law that urban Catholics voted Democratic. Then Reagan won them in huge numbers. And–contra those who are saying that the GOP now has to move left–they didn’t win by getting more liberal. Rather, the Democrats got more liberal, on crime and bussing, and the white ethnics who felt victimized by these policies fled. The more ethnic groups you have, the more likely it is that you will eventually find the goals of those ethnic groups in direct conflict. And the Democrats sure do have a lot of groups.
McArdle also offers hope on the question of social liberalism, and her full article is worth checking out for those who want a shot of optimism. However, the challenge is still there, and signals a need for at least a shift in tactics.
1. Ground Game
This is number one for a reason. Even given all the reasons above – the shifting demographics, the social liberalism of young voters, the increasing friendliness toward government among women and the desire for empathy among voters generally, Romney might still have been able to win, but for two gigantic factors:
- The Democrats turned out all the people who were most likely to vote for them, and appear likely to be able to for the foreseeable future.
- The Republican effort to get out the vote was a bug-ridden, data-deprived mess.
The power of the Democratic ground game has already been rehearsed, and is not something Republicans can really correct for, except to see its power coming. And as it turns out, that was precisely what the Republicans (and especially the Romney campaign) did not do. In fact, since the election, stories have trickled out showing a jaw-dropping degree of waste, incompetence and short-sightedness within the Romney campaign.
Don’t take our word for it – Ace of Spades’ account of the problems with the Republican GOTV (Get Out The Vote) program jokingly called “ORCA” sums it all up. In fact, conservative author John Podhoretz has been using his Twitter feed to retweet horror stories of ORCA’s ineffectiveness all day today, including grim jokes from Republican operatives that ORCA was “lying on a beach with a harpoon in its side.” As Ace notes, here’s what it was supposed to do:
The entire purpose of this project was to digitize the decades-old practice of strike lists. The old way was to sit with your paper and mark off people that have voted and every hour or so, someone from the campaign would come get your list and take it back to local headquarters. Then, they’d begin contacting people that hadn’t voted yet and encourage them to head to the polls. It’s worked for years.
But if failed. The nonfunctional nature of this supposedly state-of-the-art technological program, which was billed by the Romney campaign as a game-changing bit of political technology, left Republican operatives for literally hours doing nothing, when they should have been getting out the vote for their candidates.
To put it mildly, this kind of incompetence in the face of arguably the most sophisticated get out the vote and political data mining operation ever created (Obama’s) was never going to succeed. And yet the Romney campaign evinced mind boggling confidence about their operation. Why? Because as of 4 PM on election day, ORCA was forecasting a Romney victory of 290 – 303 electoral votes, based on up to the minute data from volunteers.
Actually, the program had crashed.
Fortunately for Republicans, this problem is almost certain to be addressed in the next election cycle. However, if the trends presented above persist, then even a drastically improved Get Out The Vote operation might not be enough to achieve victory. The GOP is in trouble – trouble of a systemic, tactical and practical nature.
And for the reasons outlined above, those who want to see it win in the future have a long way to go.
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Gimme Shelter
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:33amThey also have to worry about clueles voters voting for clueless candidates such as Elizabeth Warren. Just look at her press conference!!
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PA PATRIOT
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:43amAmen
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Bum thrower
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:50amWarren is a ‘dirt bag’ lying Progressive, and she KNOWS Darn good an well what she is doing.
It’s not about saving the country; it’s about preserving your slice of the pie paid for by other people. If you rob Pedro, to pay Pablo; Pablo he will vote for you every time and then some.
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JRook
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:05am“in every demographic where Romney technically won the white vote” mytheos is of course suffering from Belief Entitled denial. He fails to spend much of any attention to the FACT that Romney still did no get 39% of the white vote and lost the white female vote. Those groups would of course represent a good number of the independents who rather than vote based on their Belief Entitlement, actually consider the character, policies and actual record of the candidate. They are not part of Romney’s 47% and not part of the occupy movement. They are part of the group that will continue to elect the PRESIDENT after the Belief Entitled on both ends of the spectrum waste their votes. Romney could have gotten my vote if he had moved his money back to the US, spent more time showing that he understood the modern global economy and geopolitical landscape and, actually stated what his stances and policies were and why they would work. But rather than do that he impeached his own character by lying about his opponent… Welfare to work – lie, Medicare benefit cuts – lie, Jeep jobs to China – lie. The President being a Marxist, Socialist, Communist – lie.
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cloudsofwar
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:10ami’ve been a republican most of my life. now i’m just a conservative. i say we should do away with the GOP and replace it with the Conservative party with new Conservative Leaders. i will send NO MONEY TO THE GOP. i believe this election was FIXED there was no reason for obama(BO) to win. it’s not the voters it’s who counts the votes(stalin). remember anything can happen over the next 4 years to derail BO. he is a failed leader. just look at what happen in bengahzi.
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midwesthippie
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:12am…stooopid article…losing is just losing…America wants a small FEDGOV that stays out of our way and out of our faces…social issues have ALWAYS turned off young voters….duh…
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:24amThe only question is whether the republican party will cater to politics or adhere to the Constitution. As the article said, many young voters are more conservative than the party when it comes to the role of government. The republican party will survive only if they adopt the idea that non-Constitutional social issues should be left to the states and that the federal government should shrink in every other area.
The only thing the federal government should do is protect our natural rights and protect us from invasion by a foreign army. Currently, the federal government is not doing either. Young people grew up with the internet – they can understand the value of freedom, if republicans can properly explain it.
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darkknight91
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:25am7 reasons why Romney lost? I only need one: Welfare.
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Ilikepeople
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:35amOf course they won’t put much thought into who they vote for, because the earth has been destroyed. See, some Progressives understand that the Biblical [earth] isn’t the planet, but instead it’s the human mind.
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:37amMany, if not all, of these issues would have not been in issue had Ron Paul been the nominee. Guess Romney was the unelectable one after all!
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:51amAs wealth becomes concentrated in fewer and fewer hands, a political party that represents their interests will get smaller and smaller.
Heredity and tradition is the only thing holding the Republican Party together. Fewer and fewer people will remain Republican party members only because their family has always been Republican.
Support for policies that result in a more equitable distribution of the country’s is the only thing that will save the Republicans.
Here is the truism: “How do you turn a liberal into a conservative (democrat into a republican? Ownership.”
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:59am@Mary
“Support for policies that result in a more equitable distribution of the country’s is the only thing that will save the Republicans.”
Stop it, stop it, stop it. Voting someone in that will use people’s money to pay goons to run around with guns to steal from people in order to give it to other people is sick. There is no moral, legal or ethical case to substantiate that. You collectivists whitewash it up as compassion and fairness and the mindless idiots of this country go along with it. The truth is that if you really believed that you get your sorry **** up off the couch and come to my house and collect in person. You want to take from me and give to yourself of your political constituency? Fine, then do it yourself you coward. I’d at least respect the platform if you had the stones to do it yourself. Hiding behind big government is nothing short of bald faced, morally bankrupt, cowardice.
It’s time your BS little word games and spin stop and we call it what it is.
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Detroit paperboy
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 11:12amYou can’t promise jobs , to people who don’t want to work……PERIOD.
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The_Jerk
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 11:24amWomen, blacks, and Hispanics… all “do for me” constituencies, are the threat to a free society and our future. That’s why black and Hispanic cultures are historically Third World.
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The_Jerk
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 11:30amMarybethelizabeth, if your truism were really true, then East Germany would have been a huge success and North Korea would be booming. Facts are in on redistribution models. They are failures. Ask Greece.
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mercenary4freedom
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 11:56amWhen the majority turns into moochers electing the looters that take from the producers, we have a problem. Like the lady that was in front of me a bit ago @ the market. Mainicured french nails, peticure, probably $200 worth of **** extension braids, nice clothes & jewelry, buying $300 dollars worth of food on our dime then buys a $8.00 pack of smokes & a twelve pack of Old English 800.
She looked like she was all dolled up going to meet up with ol’ barrack himself.
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P8riot
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 12:02pmOBAMA – 59 MILLION
ROMNEY – 57 MILLION
SERIOUSLY? I don’t understand why so many people are saying that anything needs to change. Sorry but 57 million voters thought Romney was a better choice.
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 12:03pmA healthy economy requires competition on both the demand and the supply side. Too few decision makers with disposable income results in economic stagnation.
Capitalists don’t make wealth.
Workers create wealth.
The wealth is then stolen from them.
It would be better if the thieves stole a little less. it is in their best interests.
again.
A healthy economy requires competition on both the demand and the supply side. Too few decision makers with disposable income results in economic stagnation.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 12:10pm@Mary,
If you believe that, which is likely, then let there be no doubt that you are an absolute moron.
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johnsnare
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 12:13pmUnfortunately,America has become a Nation of takers. We want free stuff, and Obama, is the head check writer. We have a new generation of Americans, who have a different take on what America should be. Free stuff, and less work. Welcome to the new brain dead America.
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 12:19pmMore equitable wealth distribution doesn’t mean taking anything away from people. It is deciding what happens to wealth that is being created now and in the future.
Chase the money out of the stock market and back into the banks where it can be invested in communities. Allow people with a small amount of savings to receive a return on their bank deposits. Enforce market concentration regulations that promote concentration because monopolies are bad for the economy. and so many other things that allow people to experience the American Dream.
The worst thing we can do is entrust the country’s wealth in fewer and fewer hands hoping they will trinkle some of it our way.
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The_Jerk
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 12:36pmMarybethelizabeth, capitalists create. Workers give meaning to their creations and are paid for their services. But, that’s the small part of the argument on redistribution.
Being paid to do nothing, from the earnings of someone else, is the problem. Government unions who trade votes for wealth, in a kick-back scheme, is the problem. 48% of a population making no investment in a society paid for by the other 52%, is the problem.
You did touch on another huge problem, the Federal Reserve and central banking. It must go. It has centralized too much power. These mostly Jewish Shylocks do not earn, do not work. They live off of the interest of the working man and woman.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 12:49pmMary
You confuse crony capitalism with free markets. We have crony capitalism in this country because government has distorted the way things should work. Republicans and democrat parties love crony capitalism because it keeps them in power and brings them donations.
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fungi2b
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 1:00pmThe GOP showed itself to be just as morally bankrupt as the leftists during the primary season. Principled people cannot support unprincipled party politics. If you’ll cheat your own people, you’ll cheat anybody. We had a candidate which could have won, but all the “conservatives” would not support him, and lied about him and cheated him and his supporters out of the nomination….then they wonder why they lost….they are not only immoral, but stupid, as well…including Beck and the other national spokes-people
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 1:17pmMr. The_Jerk,
Your Jewish bigotry is offensive. It does not belong here.
Anyway, what you have described applies to Bain Capital, and venture capitalists in general, much more closely than to the Federal Reserve (which is owned by the banks… and banks are not all run by people of Jewish heritage).
Mitt Romney is not Jewish.
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LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 1:38pmHeres the top seven reasons that democrats get elected
1. The liberal media
2. The liberal media
3. The liberal media
4. The liberal media
5. The liberal media
6. The liberal media
7. The liberal media
If you cant see this, you’re a blind fool
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wontyouguessmyname
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 2:06pmShe will become the new progressive Hillary Clinton mark my words, she will run for president and we will loose again. She will seem fresh in BO ideas…. She isn’t stupid she uses fear and other tactics watch her old stuff on utube.
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tzion
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 4:19pm@Jerk
What relevance is it that Jews only make up 1.3% of the populace? That would only be a relevant statistic if 100% of the populace had the experience and qualifications to be Fed chairman. As it is, I’d estimate that those fitting these requirements make up far less than 0.1% of the population, making your figure absolutely useless in determining the likelihood of the chairman being Jewish. Unless of course you think an infant born 10 seconds ago, a steel worker, a banker, and a high school basketball player are equally likely to be chosen as the next Fed chairman.
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The_Jerk
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 4:50pmTzion, good to hear from ya. Where’ve ya been? Now to the point.
Surely you’re not suggesting that Jews are more talented, experienced, or wiser than everyone else constituting 98.7% of the remaining population. You see, it was no accident the Mafia was controlled by Italians, though not all were Italians. It was not because of talent, experience, or wisdom. It’s ethnic nepotism, just like the banking industry… Hollywood… . Jews have always been exclusionary… I’m sure you know that.
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paleoconservatarian
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 6:08pmDon’t discount the effect had on the electorate of the billion dollar negative campaign. An unprecedented one on two counts, of the outlandish amount spent to secure a sitting president’s second term, as well as the record setting negativity (87% of the ads, a figure which doesn’t include the barrage of lies and character attacks, a product emitted non-stop by Obama’s surrogate slime factory). Millions of well meaning Americans were dissuaded from contributing to the process, resulting in a skewed vision of the final demographics. Nobody doubts that feminist activists make up a core constituency of the left, as well as racially baited and motivated minorities, nor should it surprise that the left can better organize along those lines and weather the negativity.
But we won’t always be opposed solely by those highly susceptible to propaganda. That’s a tactic that can’t long be repeated without inducing a political cost. The left is in a race against time, with hopes to instill dependency in another generation before their engineered failure puts them out of power. To counter, lets not waste time with identity politics in seeking to peal off members from the coalition of revenge seekers. Conservatives need to redouble their efforts to better express the principled stands we take with a mind to expand the electorate across the demographic board. We need to pick states where conservatives control, and have successes at which to point.
Rising waters floats all
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tzion
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:05pm@Jerk
You missed my point in its entirety. My point was is that the number of people likely to be considered for Fed chairman is miniscule compared to the number of Jews in this country. You are using percentages to misrepresent reality. As you very well know, there are a significant number of Jewish bankers in charge of the major US banks, far more than 1.3% I’d guess. To use the entire US population is to commit a statistical fallacy. More importantly though, you use as proof only a small handful of of instances that you handpicked yourself, intentionally neglecting instances that disprove your point. The first rule of statistics is that number of occurrences doesn’t have to represent the probability and rarely does. This is especially true when, as you have, you only look at a small sample.
Take the simple coin flip as an example. 50% probability. I could, quite easily, find an instance of five heads in a row. Do I then conclude the coin is weighted? Only by taking a large sample, the larger the better, could I argue as such. You pointed to two Fed chairmen being Jewish, a statistically tiny sample. There are millions of Jews in the US. If I were to roll a 1 billion sided die twice got numbers that were both under 6 million would you accuse me of using an unfair die. After all, the numbers 1 to 6 million only make up 0.6% of the numbers on the die.
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PA PATRIOT
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:33am“America has made her decision. Progressives, liberals and LOW INFORMATITON VOTERS ruled the day and decided that Barack Obama’s record of epic failure and malaise was good enough. This motley coalition of “ME-FIRST” malcontents and fairness hustlers was enough to push Pharaoh Obama over the top and into another four years of despotic rule where executive orders pass for law and LIES pass for the truth.”
SPOT ON
Read the rest at http://sago.com/2012/11/07/america-r-i-p-1776-2012/
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Red Meat
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:36amI agree completely. This country is toast and we can thank the RINO’s in DC and FOX News for the countries failure.
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wardance
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:42amThe GOP wouldn’t be in the state some people are saying if the GOP told the amount of bare faced lies that the socialists did. The GOP spelled it out for everyone in basic simple language what they would do to help save the nation but faced with a sickening biased media lies and socialist lies they failed to get that extra 2% that would have seen Romney in power. Before the last Greek election the socialists told the people that there would be no cuts due to the billions given to them by the other EU governments, the idiots believed it and now the cit backs are causing civil disorder not seen since WWII.
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PA PATRIOT
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:47amRead the rest… It is impressive and Dead ON
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PubliusPencilman
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:13amLow information voters? Are you kidding me? Romney ran a campaign dedicated to denying the public any information about his plans. What information he did give the electorate he completely turned his back on as soon as he had to court moderates. Romney ran an exceptionally “low information” campaign.
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cloudsofwar
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:15amobama black thats why he won. thats the only answer i can come up with. first black prez had to get 2 terms.
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nueces
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:15amRed Meat,
Not really. The pols in DC are just a reflection of the populace. We are a debauched nation fast on the way to Sodom and Gomorah-like complete and utter lawlessness and corruption. We should expect this if we have ever read the bible even once. It is the story of mankind. Over and over again. It is absolutely assured in a nation of wealth and prosperity. The more people have the more they will practice and embrace evil. Are you ready to meet your God? Perhaps it is time to start taking Christ’s commandments seriously. The test coming will be unlike anything we have ever personally experienced. Most, perhaps nearly all, will fail. Even The Christ asked the question, “Will the Son of Man find faith upon the earth when he returns.”
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cloudsofwar
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:23amred meat….. thank the media not just fox news. and thank the voters who didn’t vote because they just couldn’t vote for romney so they didn’t vote at all. we lost house seats and senate seats. i heard that 3 million repubs didn’t vote thank them.
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encinom
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:48amThe problem is the Tea Party, with their assault on woman’s rights, a gay marriage, etc. Other than old, paranoid, bible thumping white men were the only group that voted for Romney. The Beckerheads shun Megan McCain, yet her socially moderate/liberal would have won over the libertarian youth vote. The problem is that Beck lies to you about you and your views being in the majority. Welcome to irrelevance.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 11:01am@Encinom,
The mindless rhetoric may work on your knuckle dragging minions of voters, but they don’t work for me. Try piecing together a factual and cogent argument and I’ll bite. The bumper sticker platitudes are tired and frankly representative of the fact that you have the depth of a parking lot puddle.
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LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:28amENCINOM, your ignorance is astounding. Your stupidity is amazing. You libs deny that you win elections because of the brainwashing done by the liberal media, but its a fact. Without the liberal propaganda machine, AKA, the liberal media, democrats would NEVER win an election. You can deny the truth all you want, but its still the truth.
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R.Waher
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 10:34pmRight, and what exactly was Barack Obama’s plan, Publius? Oh, right, he didn’t have one, never bothered, never got called on not having one. And even if he did, it’s not like he’d stick to it anyway. Remember his first plan? Cut the deficit in half? Shut down Gitmo? How’d that work out? And how about those foreign policy failures? Yeah, Libya worked out pretty great, too, didn’t it? Maybe the next time you swing by this website, Publius, you might want to be less of a low information commenter.
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moonsbreath
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:33amI got a story….”How the Democractic Party Goes Down in Flames”
1. When the debt bill comes due and there’s no more freebies.
2. When there really are “death panels.”
3. You’ve lost half of the work force.
4. When the stock market crashes.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:46amDon’t fool yourself. Greece is seeing riots not because people are rejecting their socialist government, they are in flames because people refuse to give up their socialist “entitlements”. People are not rational in mobs I’m afraid.
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:47amTrue….and that is what will happen. The conservatives should be there screaming from the rafters…’this is the result of liberal socialist democrats and obama.’
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 11:02am@GoJ,
It’s going to be a rock roaring time for sure. When the hopium stops flowing the hood rats go feral. It will be a target rich environment to say the least.
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Walkabout
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:32amDemographics don’t matter. Message does. African Americans voted Republican prior to the Great Flood of 1929 & the Depression. They felt the Republicans did not do enough. Fair questions. It is still a good question. what have the policies of the Democrats done for blacks? Blacks are now weaker due to Democrat policies. Unless you think shattered families makes you stronger.
Like Reagan said Hispanic Americans are conservative at heart. Build the Fence & then & only then Amnesty.
As someone pointed out Cleveland voted almost 100% Democrat. that is just not right. It is criminal. the Democrats manufacture votes. We need voter ID & other safeguards. As far as voter suppression charge, Republicans needs to register every eligible citizen in the country. That would be one less lie the Demoncats could tell.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:47amCleveland is shameful, without question. They daily deny Ohioans the rights you can get anywhere else in Ohio, and they do it while sneering and flipping the bird.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:43amIf history is any guide, the republican party will try to get the socialist voters rather than the ron paul vote
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 11:04amYou are exactly correct Soy. And they’ll sneer and lambast their libertarian wing the whole time, while expecting libertarians to vote for them.
It really is time to walk away. They won’t learn. It’s LP for me, McGee.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 11:10amYeah, but the justice is that they live in Cleveland. Go watch the “hastily made cleveland tourism videos” on youtube. They are hilarious and dead on. One line is “buy a house for the price of a VCR”. Another is “At least we’re not Detroit”. Ha.
The town is a shell of what it was. It has bled all the productive people out. The banks are all closing up and Key will be sold in the next 5 years and be gone too. Manufacturing is gone, jobs are gone. It is a blight on the country. They’ll lose pro sports teams eventually as well. They reap what they sow. If you are brave, drive over to east cleveland. 105th and Euclid. They live in squalor.
In the end you have to let people pick their own path and fate. You can’t protect themselves from themselves. These people chose to go BACK to slavery. So be it. You can live out your days in your little hovels waiting for government checks that buy less and less and shooting each other and stealing from each other and living on the crumbs of society with no dignity whatsoever.
We all know the whole thing is unsustainable. The Obamaphiles do too. They know there is no “fairness” that is going to happen. They know you can’t fix this. They soothe their white guilt with the thought of supporting people that they never would set foot in their neighborhood. It’s arrogance on a grand scale and rather pathetic. They hide from reality, and pat themselves on the back for caring. Sad.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 11:14am@Soy,
Aren’t they already? I mean look at McCain and Boehner and the Bush Era neocons. They are now trying to be better democrats than democrats. 90% of “republicans” will march right in line with them. For Pete’s sake. Look at the democrats. You have Obama expanding the wars and bombing indiscriminately and extrajudiciusly killing americans and trampling on civil liberties and completely subsidizing big corporate america. Everything they despised about Bush. But yet, these idiots would crawl a mile on broken glass to here Obama fart in a walkie talkie.
The country is run by, full of, and manufacturing more TOTAL MORONS!!!!!!
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funnymoney
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 11:50amThe Republicans make me so mad when they compromise all the time with the Dems. Like extending voting days. For years and years you either vote absentee (with a just reason) or on voting day. We don’t need early voting days. Set us up for voter fraud. But also, you should register at least 30 days prior to voting day. Now you can register and vote the same day. Dems are all about cheating. Sure some Rep. cheat but the majority don’t. But the Dems will cheat anytime they see an opening.
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ginger100
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:31amDon’t bring a knife to a gun fight next time dummies!
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blackbean
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:30amYou missed the number one reason, which is not going away, the number of people dependent on government has passed the tipping point. The santa clause party (dumocrat) has finally succeeded, after one hundred years, to get voters to this point so they will now be in charge until the country implodes to a third world, debtor, useless, nation. There now are enough people afraid to lose their government subsistance to insure santa clause party dominance for the foreseeable future. It’s time to give up and let them have their way. It’s pedal to the metal on the way down to the abyss!!
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Ruckus_Tom
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 12:14pmBingo. There are more takers than producers. We’re all the way up to free Obama phones now. It’s just something to think about the next time you’re in line at the grocery store and the non-English speaker in front of you is paying with a government debit / credit card … the person who’ll be voting for the candidate who punishes “the rich” and keeps a nice sized balance on the card.
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Gonzo
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:29amThe headline should read:
“7 Reasons America Should Be Worried About It’s Future”
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huey6367
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:58amWhat future?
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Individualism
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:28amIf you want to win the presidency in 2016 you will nominate Rand Paul or someone with a platform like his that can get them to your side.
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bpodlesnik
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:30amI would love to see Rand run next election. And you know, part of me is getting sick of how many people are saying conservatives should look to basically pander to a certain demographic to win them, I say speak the truth and actually do what you say you will, and what you believe in, and that is what will bring people over.
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mercenary4freedom
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 12:18pmAgreed INDI,
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jjoy
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 7:42pmThere won’t be an election in 2016…
2012 was our last chance… and the rinos blew it by nominating a loser that ain’t a nickel’s worth of difference from obama…
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Walkabout
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:26amThe “Julia”-fication of the Female Vote
There is no way that the GOP should change its’ message. A woman should find a partner if she wants kids. She should not rely on Uncle Sam. In the wild when a social group of animals take care of the young, it is usually those of the alphas. Government Health Care is not great. Britain still has problems, big problems. They have been doing health care since about the end of World War 2. That is 3 generations & change. They have not perfected it. Perfection might not be a reasonable goal for humans. but British Health care is not even close.
Gay adoption
Answer: Get a will & keep it up to date. If a person it is too poor their church should help them out. If the church does not, then what use is a church?
Glorification of gays in school
Answer: Home school. Get scientifically literate. Gays will put out that the brains of gays are different. Is it different because they were born that way or because their action cause their brain to become wired that way. Read up on psychology, biology, genetics. gays will tell the truth, but it won;t be the whole truth & nothing but the truth. They have a motive to lie. Get scientifically literate.
They will be pushing lies in the public school curriculum. Homeschool if you can. Use private or church schools. If your kids are in public schools, monitor the curriculum.
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Pantloadian
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:31amIf you’re gonna keep hitting yourself in the head with that bat, at least wear a helmet.
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TexasSenior
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:25amRepublicans must:
1. Stop moving to the left. They lost over 3 mil. voters by going moderate. Be conservative and give people an actual choice.
2. Realize the Dems will never play nice or by the rules. It is a war for the future of the country. They are fighting, we are playing games and shooting each other.
3. Train candidates to speak wisely and pick thier fights. You don’t have to say everything that comes into your mind.
4. The press and the elites will never like conservatives, quite trying or caring.
5. Find a way to communicate the truth with common sense and appealing to the public self interest. The media, education, and dem. party control the information going to the voting children who chose Santa Claus. Do Hispanics really want to destroy any hope of economic improvement by consuming the host? Do women really just vote their body parts? Do life long conservative democrats really understand what they are part of? The truth is not getting to the masses. Start young, retake the schools??
6. The rank and file need to keep pressure on the leadership or change it. They go to Washington and become Washington. The pressure is huge to conform and shut up.
7. Stop giving the leftists our money and support. Going to the movies, buying their products, watching their networks, etc. all empower them. We give aid and comfort to the enemy and then complain that they are taking over the country. We don’t care enough to sacrifice our entertainment and
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Miguelito
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:41amGreat points! I will choose not to do business with any business that is run by a liberal. I will not go to another movie. The country is divided so if the half of the country stop spending then the other half will not get the welfare. I believe in a hand up not a hand out.
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JohnnyinthePedros
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:24amI don’t know if it would make much difference at this point, but if the party really wants to attract young social liberals while simultaneously showing that they truly believe in freedom and liberty as opposed to the neocon ideas of freedom and liberty, they should stop supporting the drug war.
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Just_Us2
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:50amYou missed one….there has to be something to compete with comedy central as this is the PRIMARY news source for many. Simple minds go no further than their closest liberal comedian to get direction for their life. This leads me to believe that we need to allow the country to go over the fiscal cliff. Conservatives will NEVER EVER EVER EVER be portrayed in a positive light, but if these people have no home, they will have no TV, no TV no cable, no cable, no brainwashing. Some people are so ignorant that the only thing that will sway them is life hitting them in the face.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 11:17amBologna.
The only reasonable option is secession. People are not going to see the light. The math has tipped. The minority exist to be exploited by the majority. The minority can’t outvote them. They can’t fight them in the courts because the majority controls them. They can’t appeal to the senses of the majority when the majority has no sense.
You submit and accept your role as a slave.
OR
You leave and carve out a homeland for yourself.
Those are your choices. The sooner we accept that the sooner we can start dealing in reality.
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Couyon64
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:24amThe dumbazes out number the intelligent. Our Country is screwed.
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huey6367
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:24amThis is what I believe lost the election. The Republicans don’t divide and conquer. The Dems do. instead of the Republicans telling people “this will benefit you” they say something to the effect “this will be good for the country”. Well, the people that vote for Dems don’t care about the country. They are concerned with what it means to them. So, by telling them it benefits the country, they read it as “it will benefit big business and the wealthy” so, without any further thought involved, they won’t vote Republican.
The Republicans have to change their message if they want to survive.
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Cymry
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:24amThe country formerly known as the United States of America is dead.
The upside is, is that Jesus is probably returning much sooner.
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Dushman Kush
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:18amThe GOP has no Future. The “Conservative Movement” has no Future. The “Tea Party” has no Future. Following the 2014 elections, these realities may begin to sink in. Following the 2016 elections, there will be Zero doubt as to the Veracity of the predictions. The Communist Party USA will continue to represent the Workers of America; an Application for Membership is available online. As a genuine Patriot and as a Comrade of the First Order, I realize that my fellow Americans require Membership in a Party with a Future. Good Luck to all my fellow Patriots and Comrades.
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barber2
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:26amDUSH: Communism never works, Comrade. Read up on the USSR. You have been brainwashed .
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TexasIndependant
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:28amDeath Before Communism! Who are you to steal from me? Legal Plunder is no different than a robber with a gun in your house! You fight for your ideology and I will fight for my family and home! Lets see who wins! We are many and we are not afraid! Come get ya some!
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Cymry
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:31amunfortunately, a civil war would break out before the communists try to overthrow the government and the rednecks would win that fight. remember the vast majority of current and former SOFs are conservative white
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Walkabout
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:35amDushman is a word of Persian origin, meaning “enemy”
The Russians in Afghanistan called the mujaheddin Dushman
Kush -A high grade strand of marijuana.
Dushman Kush is probably Wango our OWS b/tt muncher.
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mercenary4freedom
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:05amDOUCHENOZZLE DUSH, you’re no American son. There is a storm coming and you commies are going to be directly in the eye of the this storm. May the the crosshairs of many real Americans be upon you & your red brothers. So go ahead and keep exposing yourself, continue to step out into the open, keep making it easy for us. Communism WILL NOT prevail here in America.
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ResistSocialism
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:16amCome on who needs another party anyway with such a kind, caring, decent leader Obama. We don’t need any more presidents now. Just Obama. Yay
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Iamaduck
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:16amThe GOP is over. The segragated, racist, discriminatory, homophobic America of the 60′s will never come back.
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capitalismrocks
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:22amSegregated? GOP has more blacks/latinos than the DNC, racist, read the first part…
Stop with your liberal lie-fest and grow up.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:29amHey DUCK, Catch the reports about the businesses that making massive lay offs just since 0bama won this election? You better hope it does not effect your parents, or you may not have that safe basement to hide away in any longer.
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Locked
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:42amIAMADUCK is obviously a troll.
That said… @Capitalismrocks
“Segregated? GOP has more blacks/latinos than the DNC, racist, read the first part…”
Blacks voted for Obama 97 to 3. 75% of Latinos voted for Obama. Gingrich’s quote is spot-on: inclusion is actually including minority groups, not paying lip-service with token candidates. Despite what you might say, racial groups don’t have a Pavlovian response to voting only for their race. Do you think if Herman Cain won the candidacy, we would suddenly see a 50-50 black vote? Mia Love and Allen West lost their races, I might remind you.
Race will always be a small factor, but there needs to be a policy shift if we want to actually win elections. The sooner we accept that and stop claiming blacks and Hispanics only vote for their own race, the sooner we start winning elections again.
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Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 11:19amWait, wasn’t it Republicans fighting democrats for civil rights laws?
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:15amFair article.
I wonder if any of the stalwart GOP noticed the inclusion of the word “libertarian” more than one time?
You can keep conservative positions without alienating libertarians. You cannot however offer social conservatism AND leftist economic positions and expect even normal GOP to vote for you, let alone your rather considerable libertarian wing.
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capitalismrocks
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:13amThe GOP is counter-cancelling its stances, look Conservatives and the GOP are supposed to stand for better fiscal policy, this must be upheld. However, on social issues, here is where the problem comes in and the GOP is fighting against itself. GOP/Conservatives believe in individualism, that you are responsible for yourself and your actions, that Gov’t should not interfere or get involved in personal lives. So:
Drugs – GOP should want to stop drug trafficking, but should leave drug laws within the States, if you want to allow people to smoke pot, you give them that ability, however you also clearly state that there will be zero tolerance for anyone caught driving under drug influence with stern mandatory sentencing. Also, you want legalized drugs, fine then no more taxpayer methadone clinics, you make your bed, you die in it.
Abortion – It is time for the GOP/Conservatives to step away from this toxic issue, toxic on a political level. This is a Religious/Moral issue and the new stance must be “Such decisions are personal and individual, up to those whose religious/moral values must decide, not up to Government.” However, no funding to any entity that provides abortion, its an elective surgery and people must be responsible for their own actions/decisions, not the taxpayer nor government.
Time to step away from these issues, time for the GOP to realize that they can’t be for the individual and at the same time demand gov’t control of these things.
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Locked
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:43am“Time to step away from these issues, time for the GOP to realize that they can’t be for the individual and at the same time demand gov’t control of these things.”
You nailed it. Spot on.
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Chromo200
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:44amThey did step away and they lost. The GOP will for ever be a minority party and the scapegoat for all the ills of the world. We can voice our opinions on the Blaze, watch Glenn Beck,Fox News, and read conservative columnist but the Democrats give free stuff period. They also educate their politicians to say nothing just small sound bites that come from the DNC.
Watch next year when there will be no budget and the GOP will be blamed. When we have food and fuel riots, the GOP will be blamed and most will believe it.
You want to survive, forget politics, become debt free, find a way to hide you “wealth” and follow the Lords way and post on the Blaze to relieve stress and tension.
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Locked
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:54am@Chromo
“They did step away and they lost.”
Did you watch the same election cycle I did? I seem to recall that the Democrats turned the topic to social issues, and the socially conservative part of the GOP was happy to engage them… and got trounced in the polls because of it. We should had stuck to the economy and not mentioned the social side besides “Let the people decide.” Because really, that’s what the government’s role is: getting itself OUT of people’s lives and letting them decide for themselves.
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NineteenEighty4
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:13am“Time to step away from these issues, time for the GOP to realize that they can’t be for the individual and at the same time demand gov’t control of these things.”
This is the root of the GOP’s problem. Social conservatism is a dead movement. The religious right has lost its choke-hold on society and it is time to jettison these religious zealots who advocate for rape babies. When the GOP advocates for authoritarian bans on contraception and abortion, how can they still claim to be a party of small government? Their ideology of fiscal conservatism would be much more attractive to many Americans if it was packaged with personal freedom as opposed to imposed religious morality.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 10:50pm1984 – We’ve tried your way of “compromise” and it hasn’t worked and it’s never going to work. We’re not going to get the perverted social liberals on board even if we give them what they want.
Excuse me that you don’t have a right to kill your baby. I also don’t see the same hypocritical same sex marriage supporters pushing for polygamy or incest or other alternative forms of marriage when they’re screaming on how marriage is a right.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:12amIt will be up to us, the people who are conservatives, to redefine our cause and dispose of the old guard who caused the loss of so much of the nations people to the ‘stuff giver’ of Obama.
He followed the time honored tactic of bread and circuses: give the people stuff, keep them entertained with messages and ‘feel good’ rallies and such, and control the messages (via the media) and he wins every time.
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BlackCrow
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:12amGive the Tea Party more time to clean out the RINOS. At the same time it is evidently going to half to get a lot worse before the idiots wake up. Well let the taxes go up, let the sequester go into effect, let the new “full time” (28 hours a week) kick in for the few who can get a job, let them see the government employees living like kings, let the small businesses fail. Maybe when the misery of Communism starts to hit them where they live then possibly we have a chance to take it back.
Or let the red states form their own country and let the Communists and idiots wallow in their own filth.
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justangry
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:18amThe Tea Party has been co opted by the media and religious right. The religious right are progressives that care about as much about the Constitution as their progressive counterparts on the left.
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:30amNo doubt, JUST..
It’s kind of like mainstream music in the “Alternative” section of the CDs…
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CorpsmanToPA
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 11:37amyup – I saw that co-opt coming out of the GOP as soon as the loss of McCain happened in 2008. They thought they could sneak in and take over, actually, for the most part they did. The problem was the Tea Part was not organized enough to keep the fakes out. Then we of course ended up with a weakened and diluted Tea Party. Then all the dedicated Tea Partiers fell for the spin and jumped in lock step when the marching orders cam to back the candidate they were told to, just as the said they never would again. So eveeryone fell back into the locks of the two-party power that just takes turns passing power, acting like it is not planned. “We the People” are all sheeple, led to the slaughter.
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Cavallo
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:12amI’ve voted my last election. I’m done with it. The guys I do get elected are spineless or worse become closet Statists. I hold no loyalty to the GOP, nor to this country. Both can go spit.
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barber2
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:18amDon’t worry Be happy. Have some of that pot that the Lefties are pushing. Goes so well with the anarchy that their economically disastrous policies will create .
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Madriky
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:20amAt 61 years old, I have cast my last ballot. Virginia has gone blue. I’m now no different than a conservative in New York or New Jersey. My candidate will never be nominated, much less win. I won’t was my time voting for some establishment RINO.
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Small World
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:12amThere is no GOP…..GOPP [ grand o’l progressive party!
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justangry
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:12amSocial reformers are progressive filth that has tainted the GOP like mold. They are neither constitutionally or fiscally conservative.
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Locked
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:30amSOMEONE GETS IT! HALLELUJAH!
Sometimes I feel like I’m talking to a brick wall while posting here. When a party thinks that being conservative means “let’s make the government bigger, but have it support what WE want, not what THEY want,” that party has simply become a “Other Party Lite.” How about we offer a real alternative: stop campaigning on social issues, start offering solutions to the economy.
Romney’s economic strategy was basically, “I’ll keep up spending deficits for at least 10 years, but I’ll get us into more debt by buying things our party wants!” As said: Obama-Lite. How about “My sole goal is to cut the deficit to zero and start paying off our national debt so our children have a future. And what’s more: I’ll let the people decide the social issues, because it’s not government’s role to be your parent”? I would vote for that candidate in a heart-beat!
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:56amYou’re exactly correct Locked, it’s what I’ve been saying as well. You can’t be small government only for things you like, if you’re small government, then abide by the Constitution and get the government at the Federal level out of everybody’s business. If states want to have certain policies, then that’s a state’s rights issue, not a Federal issue.
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B-45
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:11amThey forgot to mention rampant voter fraud by the liberals…..
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barber2
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:16amAgree. And will probably remain as hidden as Obama’s school records.
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justangry
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:19amOr warmongering based on prophesy.
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Pantloadian
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:33amAll you have to do is prove it. And you tried that before the election. How’d that work for ya?
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:55amYes…..I am acquainted with someone who addresses those problems and there were too many to investigate. The blatant vote tampering of the democrats and the amount of it would make people completely sick if they knew of all of it. Machines were tampered with all over the country. Early voting ballots were changed by the thousands in every state. We cannot put up with this….people.
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Pantloadian
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:19amTHIS JUST IN! . . .The Great Carnac is “acquainted with someone” who says Dems stole everything. What more proof does anyone need?
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barber2
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:38amTHIS JUST IN : Pants were unloaded. Now spilling forth on The Blaze. Read . What more proof do you need ?
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soybomb315_II
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 10:49amLOL just!!
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AJAYW
Posted on November 9, 2012 at 9:09amwhat a story
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