Is It Time for the GOP to Abandon Social Conservatism?
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Is it time for the Republican Party to abandon social conservatism?
That question likely creates knots in the stomachs of pro-life individuals who also believe ardently in the defense of traditional marriage. But in the wake of President Barack Obama’s victory, an ongoing search has commenced for the basis of defeat and, simultaneously, for the heart and soul of the Republican Party. Naturally, some are certainly wondering where social issues fit into the mix.
And who could overlook the anxious excitement among some who’d like nothing more than to gleefully scribble an obituary for the nation’s so-called “religious right.” But are these detractors drawing conclusions too quickly — or are they correct in their assertions? With less than 72 hours passing since the conclusion of the electoral race, it’s hard to tell.
Before we get into the specifics and explore these claims, let’s examine where the general public falls on the two, key social issues of importance: abortion and same-sex marriage. To do this, we can look closely at FOX News’ exit polling data, which provides information about how voters view these issues.
WHERE AMERICANS STAND ON ABORTION
When asked to provide an assessment of whether abortion should be permitted, 59 percent of the 5,131 voters consulted said that the procedure should be “legal,” with 36 percent choosing “illegal.” Now, it’s important to note that people are only being given two options here — something that pigeonholes voters into choosing extremes, despite having potentially mixed views on the multifaceted subject.
When a separate question was asked — one that allowed voters to choose between different, more specified options, the results were fascinating. Only 29 percent of the nation said that abortion should be “legal in all cases,” although a combined 59 percent said that in should at least be “legal in some cases.” But on the flip side, 23 percent said that it should be “illegal in most cases,” with an additional 13 percent calling for it not to be allowed in any case. Here’s the table:

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From a policy standpoint, there’s no doubt here that the current schema is more favorable to the pro-choice movement (and that, if we’re strictly speaking about policy, pro-choice candidates may resonate with more voters). But, as stated, abortion is a complex subject — one that can’t be measured by one, or even two, polling questions.
In May, TheBlaze highlighted some of the ideological transformations that may be afoot when it comes to the issue of abortion. Among Gallup’s fascinating findings at the time, the proportion of Americans calling themselves pro-choice is at a record low — a decline that is seen among all three U.S. political groups (Democrat, Republican and Independent).
Overall, the 2012 results showed that 50 percent of the nation calls itself “pro-life,” with only 41 percent claiming to be “pro-choice.” In 2011, 49 percent of the nation called itself pro-choice, with an additional 45 percent claiming that they were pro-life. In 2010, the results were similar, as 45 percent were pro-choice and 47 percent were pro-life.
The 2012 number clearly show a shift in personal perspective away from abortion. But — let’s not forget the important difference between the Gallup question and the information being explored in the exit poll. While Gallup was asking for personal perspective, the exit poll focused upon policy. The point here: It’s entirely possible to call oneself pro-life, but to still favor laws that give women “choice” on the abortion front.
WHERE AMERICANS STAND ON GAY MARRIAGE
Same-sex marriage is another highly-controversial issue that social conservatives have overwhelmingly rejected. While politically-flammable, it’s also a subject that is seemingly easier to measure — and one on which Americans are firmly divided.
According to FOX News’ exit polls, 49 percent of the nation believe that their state should “legally recognize same-sex marriage.” An additional 46 percent, however, do not agree with this sentiment. On yet another issue, America is divided (however, the nation is more equally split on the policy perspective associated with this issue than it is on abortion).

According to Gallup’s 2012 findings, 50 percent of the nation supports gay marriage and 48 percent does not believe that nuptials for same-sex couples should be legally affirmed. In the past, The Blaze also analyzed the 2011 numbers, which found for the first time since Gallup began asking questions about same-sex marriage, that more than 50 percent of the American public supported legalizing gay unions (53 percent to be exact).
While the 2012 numbers showed somewhat of a decline in support when compared to the previous year, the affirmative proportion stands firm, at least for now, at 50 percent. The nation remains divided, but over the past few years there has been an intense effort to push for equal rights in relation to homosexual marriage — actions that may be paying off for proponents.
In 1996, only 27 percent of the nation supported gay marriage. By 2004, this proportion had grown to 42 percent. This year, despite the 2011 versus 2012 disparity, the situation is evolving. Normally, allowing constituents to vote on gay marriage has had disastrous results for those hoping to see the institution legalized.
But this electoral cycle, three states — Washington, Maryland and Maine — legalized same-sex unions (and with the population voting in favor of these rights). Previously, 32 similar attempts across the nation failed, with North Carolina’s earlier this year serving as the latest example.
And, as The Christian Post reported, “While voters in Washington, Maine and Maryland voted to allow same-sex marriage, voters in Minnesota turned back a proposed constitutional amendment that would have prohibited same-sex marriage if it were approved by law.” Plainly stated: One cannot help but wonder if the legalities are taking a turn in favor of gay nuptials.
All things considered, while abortion appears to be evolving based on new technologies and a slight pro-life tilt, gay marriage is moving in a much more rapid direction (one that is unfavorable to those who fervently espouse traditional marriage).
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION & THE AMERICAN PUBLIC
Another issue, immigration, based on exit polls, warrants a quick look. Overwhelmingly, Americans said that illegals who are already in the United States (65 percent agreed) should be granted “a chance to apply for legal status.”
Only 28 percent of the nation embraces the notion that these individuals should be deported back “to the country they came from” (on the whole, Romney voters overwhelmingly embraced deportation). Here’s the table showcasing these results (once again, respondents weren’t given many options and were forced to choose two extremes):

Clearly, both parties need to come up with palatable methods for protecting the borders to prevent further permeation. However, it appears that, for those who already reside here, a path to citizenship is the will of the people (at least according to this exit poll).
Perhaps Romney’s views on “self-deportation” did harm him on this issue, especially among Latinos (however, immigration was not one of the most pressing issues this cycle in voters’ minds). In a column this week, commentator Charles Krauthammer proclaimed that the GOP must embrace “amnesty” if it wishes to reform itself.
“The problem is hardly structural. It requires but a single policy change: Border fence plus amnesty. Yes, amnesty,” he wrote. “Use the word. Shock and awe — full legal normalization (just short of citizenship) in return for full border enforcement.”
HOW SOCIAL ISSUES PLAYED INTO THE 2012 ELECTION
Gay marriage, abortion and immigration, aside, there are many other social issues that emerge in the American political schema. However, it the first two issues that stand out as the most relevant, controversial and, arguably, the most talked about.
Based on Romney’s electoral loss, numerous outlets are questioning whether the “religious right,” a group that is monumentally pro-life and anti-gay marriage — and the cohort that helped George W. Bush win his 2004 election — is beginning to implode and lose its relevance.
“On multiple levels, Tuesday’s election results raised questions about the Christian right’s agenda on American politics, eight years after the movement helped sweep President George W. Bush into a second term and opened the era of state bans on same-sex marriage,” CNN’s Dan Gilgoff wrote.
Religion News Service, like CNN, framed the electoral losses and their impact on religious conservatives in the following terms:
Instead of the promised victories, the religious right encountered defeat at almost every turn. Not only did Obama win convincingly, but Democrats held onto the Senate – and the power to confirm judges – and Wisconsin elected the nation’s first openly gay senator, Tammy Baldwin.
Meanwhile, Republican senate candidates Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock went down to unanticipated defeat in large part because of their strongly anti-abortion views, and an effort in Florida to restrict abortion failed. For the first time ever, same-sex marriage proponents won on ballots in four out of four states, while marijuana for recreational use was legalized in two out of three states where the question was on the ballot.
Even Michele Bachmann, an icon among Christian conservatives, barely held onto her House seat in Minnesota while Tea Party favorite Allen West lost his congressional district in Florida.
Considering that Obama, a president who is staunchly pro-choice and who is actively advocating for same-sex marriage, was able to win, in the minds of some, showcases that the Christian right’s influence may be waning. However, such a standpoint fails to take into account other issues going on in America. Elections are multifaceted. Even within a voting bloc, there are intervening issues to consider that have a profound impact on turnout and candidate selection.
The Catholic vote, for instance, has also been a focus of discussion in the wake of the election. Despite Obama’s marriage and abortion views, which run contrary to Catholic teaching, he still won the Catholic cohort. This development was particularly troubling to some conservatives, especially following the Obama administration’s controversial contraceptive mandate, which was widely seen as an assault on religious liberty. However, numerous intervening factors, including views on immigration, economics and ethnicity, may have swayed the Catholic vote.
“Maybe Hispanic Catholics were not as moved by religious liberty-type arguments as by immigration and economics,” John Green, a religion and politics expert at the University of Akron, told CNN, thus emphasizing the role that Latinos played in Obama’s re-election.
This is, of course, just a mere snapshot into the presidential race. When considering how much social issues played into the campaign, it’s essential that one must, after exploring where the American people stand on these fronts, also assess which issues, overall, were on voters’ minds when they headed into the polls.
While strong opinions abound over social issues in the U.S., when exploring the subjects of most importance to the voting public, abortion and gay marriage barely registered. In essence, this makes sense. After all, everyone knew that the economy was the number one issue this election cycle.
CNN’s early exit poll results the day of the election found that, by far, economic conditions were on voters’ minds, followed by health care, the deficit and foreign policy. So, while abortion and gay marriage likely shaped, to a lesser degree, how people decided to vote, they weren’t highly motivating factors (or issues that were at the forefront of peoples’ minds).
Considering voters’ priorities, it’s no wonder social conservatism seemingly played a small role in the election.
IS SOCIAL CONSERVATISM TO BLAME FOR ROMNEY’S LOSS?
So, considering these issues, was social conservatism at the center of Romney’s loss? There are, of course, one-issue voters who will reject or even accept a candidate based on a solitary social stance. When it comes to gay marriage and abortion, in fact, this dynamic is prevalent. Currently, conservatives and liberals, alike, are jockeying over whether the party is too right-of-center or – not conservative enough.
Still, looking beyond this debate and focusing more on strategy, others recognize that the Republican Party’s future likely hinges upon reaching out to groups that have not traditionally, at least in recent decades, embraced the GOP — young people, the religiously-unaffiliated (a fast-growing group) and minorities (the latter of which tends, depending on the sub group, to be highly religious).
“Defeat can be a very clarifying moment,” Faith and Freedom Coalition president Ralph Reed told The Wall Street Journal. “We need to find a way to combine core principles with an outreach strategy that is more welcome to voters who haven’t always been reached out to.”
While this ideal is certainly true, especially when looking at ongoing demographic changes, it’s impossible not to miss out on the overwhelming theme that this election was all about the economy. Building upon this notion, but with additional framing, lawyer and blogger John Hinderaker noted his belief that America, despite what the right has conventionally contended, is not, economically-speaking, a center-right nation.
“This belief is one that we conservatives have cherished for a long time, but as of today, I think we have to admit that it is false. America is a deeply divided country with a center-left plurality,” Hinderaker wrote. “This plurality includes a vast number of citizens who describe themselves as moderates, but whose views on the issues are identical or similar to those that have historically been deemed liberal.”
The blogger continued, providing a framing of the American public’s purportedly troubling reliance upon and penchant for government subsidies:
Put bluntly, the takers outnumber the makers. The polls in this election cycle diverged in a number of ways, but in one respect they were remarkably consistent: every poll I saw, including those that forecast an Obama victory, found that most people believed Mitt Romney would do a better job than Barack Obama on the economy. So with the economy the dominant issue in the campaign, why did that consensus not assure a Romney victory? Because a great many people live outside the real, competitive economy. Over 100 million receive means tested benefits from the federal government, many more from the states. And, of course, a great many more are public employees. To many millions of Americans, the economy is mostly an abstraction.
Then there is the fact that relatively few Americans actually pay for the government they consume. To a greater extent than any other developed nation, we rely on upper-income people to finance our federal government. When that is combined with the fact that around 40% of our federal spending isn’t paid for at all–it is borrowed–it is small wonder that many self-interested voters are happy to vote themselves more government. Mitt Romney proclaimed that Barack Obama was the candidate of “free stuff,” and voters took him at his word.
It is quite possible that the economic uncertainties, teamed with the aforementioned sentiments, played a major role in Romney’s loss. But — as for social issues, there doesn’t seem to be any evidence at the moment that they were central to the candidate’s fall.
A FINAL NOTE ON SOCIAL ISSUES
It’s far too early to proclaim that the religious right is losing its influence. After all, different election cycles call for renewed and divergent focuses. In 2004, national security was on everyone’s minds; in 2012, it was the economy.
We do know that religion is slightly declining in American society and that, of course, has a potential impact on electoral prospects. However, the obituary-writing and dismissive nature of social conservatism seems pre-mature. While a continued exploration is warranted, so is a look into government policy and its impact on dependency — and how these elements translate into votes for and against the nation’s major political parties.
All this in mind, keeping an eye on social issues is important, especially considering the trajectory that gay marriage is on. While it is entirely possible that social issues didn’t hamper Romney’s chances, if the nation continues to be more accepting of gay marriage, the party’s adherence to traditional unions (or, at least the sometimes tough, though principled, words on the issue) may harm future GOP candidates at the polls.
As for abortion, the issue remains complex. From a policy standpoint, the nation continues to favor pro-choice policy. But personal views seem to be trending in a pro-life direction.
Considering these elements, it would benefit the Republican Party to consider its messaging and how it markets its social — and economic — policies. Very few issues in this world are black and white in practice. Considering the grey areas and finding balance, while remaining true to conviction can be a difficult practice. However, it’s something that both parties should regularly be doing, as social change comes to fruition.

Remember, while Obama captured the majority of the votes, the election was somewhat close. Obama won over 50 percent of the nation and Romney resonated with 48 percent of voters. Thus, an embrace of conservative values hasn’t yet diminished to dangerously-low levels or else the disparity between the candidates would have been greater.
In the Washington Post, Michael Gerson wrote the following about the GOP’s challenge in the coming years — words that are certainly fascinating (but ideals that not all conservatives will embrace):
This is the conservative task over the next few years: not to preserve a rigid ideology but to reconstruct a political appeal along improved but principled lines.
Some of the most important intellectual groundwork is needed on the role of government. Mitt Romney had a five-part plan to encourage job creation. He lacked a public philosophy that explained government’s valid role in meeting human needs. Suburban women heard little about improved public education. Single women, particularly single mothers, heard little about their struggles, apart from an off-putting Republican critique of food stamps. Blue-collar workers in, say, Ohio heard little about the unique challenges that face declining industrial communities. Latinos heard little from Republicans about promoting equal opportunity and economic mobility.
In the end, rather than abandoning social conservatism, it seems that the GOP has two major tasks at hand moving forward: Heed Reed’s advice to refine an outreach strategy that reaches new populations, while remaining true to values, and figure out how to tackle and address the pitfalls of government dependency.
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tommy.tommy
Posted on November 20, 2012 at 3:45pmThis started with evil Bush and continue with evil Obama. You have to realize? The Rino Republicans and the Demotards has sold out Americans for illegals. When evil Bush was in office? His **** buddies want to bring the wages down for Americans. The truth is? The Rino Republicans the Demotards, and the filthy catholics has poison Americans with lies and destroy America. Armageddon is coming.
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waspanglosaxon
Posted on November 18, 2012 at 2:00amSince when that the Republican Party ever really embraced ‘social conservatism’? Reagan was the only president ever – in either party – who could ever be termed even slightly ‘right of center’. And he was only a moderate conservative. Nixon was no conservative; Bush Sr & Jr. were both liberal Republicans and Juan McCain only differed from Obama by virtue of his skin color. Most of Romney’s GOP opponents in the primaries were pro-illegal immigration (Rick Perry and Gingrich being the two worst!).
I think this is why they constantly trot out the tired old issue of abortion in each election – merely so that we can tell the ‘liberals’ from the so-called ‘conservatives’. (And there position on abortion doesn’t really matter, since even the ‘antis’ never do anything about it, once they’re elected.)
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Flash287
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 12:13pmI always vote Republican because of the fiscal, domestic energy and second amendment issues.. But I am ardently pro-choice. The big umbrella is not nececssary. Getting abortion out of the platform would have an assured victory. The woman vote would be on board. It was the social issues that drove away woman.
Now Obama is going to push his EPA cap and trade. This will surely drive up the price of gasoline. Too bad Romney did not SPELL out to the middle class “the best way to get money into the pockets of the middle class was to make gasoline affordable.” Gas prices is the one subject that the middle class is very sensitive about. The spending of the discretionary dollars would be a boon to the economy. He should also point out that with an Obama victory with his crushing regulations would surely bring us up to $8/g like in Europe. Obama call it “leveling the playing field.”
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Rienzi
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 10:03amThere’s this blog I read about dating from a guy’s POV. It’s entertaining, but yesterday I checked it out and found this gem. http://matthatesdating.blogspot.com/2012/11/an-open-letter-to-rnc.html
He basically argues that they should abandon social conservatism, namely the “religious right”. I think his point is that we don’t deserve to say we are more American when we want to dictate morality. The true founding principles, according to this guy, dictate that the government has nothing to do with what belief system controls our personal behavior. I think he’s right. He also thinks the GOP should court the Libertarians and bring them into the fold. No one can argue with the message of freedom when it’s properly represented and argued. The GOP, has done neither.
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Smug
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 9:43amI usually don’t post on anything concerning social issues. But wanted to on this. I get upset when it comes to Abortion. I think we should do everything we can to protect life. If you look at all these social issues whether it be Abortion or any of the rest, they all come with a lot of emotional pain. And while I may not agree with those that support or who are involved in these issues. My heart goes out to them. I think they are just lost and need more than anything our love, compassion and prayers. I also wouldn’t judge anyone’s personal life. God knows I have my own issues to deal with. But in answer to the question. No, I don’t think conservatives should change their stand on social issues. I would just like to say to the people who do support these things don’t be angry if I don’t happen to agree with you. I won’t force my beliefs on you and please don’t force your beliefs on me. We are largely a Christian nation, our laws are set up by Judeo-Christian beliefs. We as conservative’s (myself being semi-conservative) can’t give into what you would want us to accept as normal. It simply goes against our spiritual core. The lines can’t be blurred. When we lose all sense of right and wrong we become void of compassion or empathy.……..MSSMUG
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Ivabig1
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 10:02amThat was probably one of the most heart felt post I’ve ever read on The Blaze. Compassion and Empathy are decidedly lacking in the liberal persona. They believe they have it, but it is simply their lack of a moral compass them feel nothing for life at the beginning or end. Only people that are of their age and beliefs get a pass.
YAM-IB
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liltexasgal
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:31amLet God sort it out at judgement day. God gave us free will to choose between good and evil. People know in their hearts that abortion is sinful in nature, but they choose to sin because it fits into their lifestyle and is much easier than taking responsibility for their own decisions. We can’t legislate morality as human beings. Only God can do that and He will one day soon.
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lillith70
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 6:57amGoing more socially conservative is hardly the answer. moderating and finding common ground might be. NO one is going to go along with the hard right religious conservatives who hold to complete abortion elimination. Akin and Mourdock make that case. Didn’t see voters dropping dead running to the polls or to the right to mandate that loser issue. It isn’t majority whites who are aborting, guys.n It is the sex without responsibility people.
The difference in socialism and communism is force. Socialism is creeping gains inch by inch and communism is brute force. Obama’s telling words of frustration” You can’t change it from within?”
Abortion absolutists look like brute force to the secular humanists but a moderated effort of allowable in cases of rape, incest, and to save the life of the mother (also, toss in mental health of the mother for sweetener so those who just must kill their fetuses can continue) would make it more palatable to the majority who hat abortion but do not want to intrude on a woman’s choice. Women have been self aborting in desperation, terror, panic, self-preservation with manual and herbal ways since time began.
Limiting abortion is preferable to facilitating and perpetuating it by absolutism. We wouldn’t be in Ayers and obama’s socialist clutches today if they had continued the Weatherman way of absolutism and force instead of incremental gains.
Look to ourselves–the only fixable positives.
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Ragnars Repos
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:53am‘…some who’d like nothing more than to gleefully scribble an obituary for the nation’s so-called “religious right.”’
That’s me.
The GOP is compromised, of course. They are now the GOProgressives, in my book.
“R’s” will lose big time on an anti-gay/anti-abortion agenda–the ash heap of history, to be exact.
YOU believe that YOUR god is against gay marriage and abortion, but the rest of us ain’t buying it, see? Until your almighty pays a visit (fat chance there, BTW), we are stuck with making up our own minds as to what is best for each of us.
As it is, you are providing the collectivists with huge numbers of victims to corral. This isn’t good for the human race.
For example, lining up by the thousands to support Chik-fil-A/strut your anti-gayness was a monumental mistake, when gays are now mainstream and accepted by huge numbers of Americans, especially young people.
And tell the average, over-sexualized, dumb, sugar-daddy-lovin’ single American female that she can’t have her birth control, I mean abortion whenever she wants and “hell hath no fury”, my holy friends.
You tear them down and the collectivist picks them up, stokes their anger, and aims it all back at you, aka, election 2012.
*But none of your problems are bigger than your “social safety net” notion, conservatives. It will destroy us all. In the end, Gov’t cannot be “compassionate”, only murderous.
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lillith70
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:29amRead the above, conservatives, and get to know the enemy and warped but set in stone mindset. They ain’t moderating.
We can’t bend them or even find common ground because of their raging hatred. (Not believing in God, why should they recognize an opposing dark force that holds them in his grip?)
Meanwhile we can address what is fixable. Ourselves and our coalition. The rules of war oriental man (cna’t remember his name) changed to match the opponent and the opponent’s expectations. GOP too predictable. Time to go common ground on abortion. Makes it a states rights issue as Mitt would have. Big government wants to dictate from top down and the metros want to rules the provicials as all through history.
Moderate gay marriage issue by fostering gay unions as a compromise. hard headed absolutism on this issue will see gay marriage win because of the reason Ragnor postulates. To heck with the legislated defense of Marriage act. Laws that don’t fit liberals agenda are steam rolled over by those who have no respect for the rights of others different in view from themselves–the dictatorial instinct of the people oppressors through history. Bible clingers will recognize this since t hate is just a milder form of murder.
If the hard right will not moderate and actively foster gay unions as an alternative to gay marriage which impinges on the traditional rights of marriage, they will see gay marriage installed by hook or crook and liberal court legislating fr
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Ragnars Repos
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:47pm“Read the above, conservatives, and get to know the enemy…”
If you are bent on theocracy, then yes, I’m your Huckleberry. You can have your church, just keep it over there, to yourselves, that’s all. We can leave each other alone to live as we want. Don’t like gays, don’t hang around them. Don’t like abortion? Don’t have one. LEAVE ME ALONE! YOU DON’T OWN MY EXISTENCE! I say the same thing to the collectivist brand of mystic.
“We can’t bend them…because of their raging hatred.”
Principles aren’t bendable. Principles are indifferent, not at all “hatred”.
“Not believing in God, why should they recognize an opposing dark force that holds them in his grip?”
I saw this in an episode of Star Trek once.
“Meanwhile we can address what is fixable. Ourselves and our coalition.”
Your church is not compatible with limited government, period. The left will drink your milkshake on this as you advocate for merely a lesser degree of collectivism–they’ll always out “freebie” you. They don’t have your ethics. “Turn the other cheek” and they’ll rip it off. You must build, maintain, and fight them, but they only have to steal and destroy.
“Moderate gay marriage issue by fostering gay unions as a compromise.”
Wasting your time, sacrificing your country, slow-motion suicide, “Screw them! I’ll screw me!” yada, yada, yada…
“If the hard right will not moderate…”
Where’s the hard right? Me? Nah, I’m Thomas
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Ragnars Repos
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:49pmI’m Thomas Jefferson, 2012 style, baby!
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American_Conservatism
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:39amSIGNATURES NEEDED BY DECEMBER 07, 2012 TO REACH GOAL OF 25,000
Peacefully grant the State of Louisiana to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.
As the founding fathers of the United States of America made clear in the Declaration of Independence in 1776:
“When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
“…Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government…”
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-louisiana-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/1wrvtngl
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k8ti
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 1:58amSimple answer is: NO, it’s not time…..because the election was RIGGED…we all know it was, the numbers in so many counties don’t make sense!
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justasurvivor
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 10:45pmWol, sure we should abandon our principles and values. The Bible is full of examples of how God blessed those who turned their back on their principles and lowered themselves to do whatever it takes to get a vo…..huh……what did you say? Oh…He DIDN’T?
Oh, well then, I guess we shouldn’t. As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord! (whether we win elections or not)
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AllAmericanGirl22
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 10:08pmWe didn’t lose because Romney was conservative, it’s because he was too much like Obama. We need to present conservatism in a way that shows people why it works. We cannot abandon it.
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lillith70
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:42amYah, Yah yah. we heard that before but didn’t see any abortion rights people or gay activists or women rushing in to vote conservative values.
Liberals used to be ashamed to call themselves liberals, becoming progressive and “fiscal conservatives instead” (Clinton and Newt compromises-Clinton moderated his commie/socialist goals after Hillarycare failed (it wasn’t Romneycare model after all if one was old enough to remember that attempt. obama resurrected Hillarycare and added taxes on the middle class and working poor into it. The non-working poor have iphones and more civil rights than the white majority thanks to obama adjudicating more. and school grants for non-whites? Someone told me they have vanished. Go to work out of high school, Whitey, if so. The less than white needy want more $300 tennis shoes? If this is so, young whites have brought it on themselves. Me and mine through me are going native–native American with our drop of indian blood shared by most whose ancestors came over on the Mayflower. Elizabeth Warren and Ward Churchill, democrats, have shown the way. I wonder if adoption into an Indian tribe counts and if their citizenship papers are for sale?
A DNA proof of white blood for oppression of rights under the post racial admin? It would eliminate obama if you had to haave less than 50% white blood to have special privileges, perks and money rewards. His real father is Frank Marshall Davis J, by his own admission a mentor.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 9:16pmThe Republicans aren’t going to get more people to vote for them by being exactly like the Democrats on social issues.
The left does this every time. They claim that the Republicans need to move to the left in order to gain more votes and when they do that, they end up getting fewer people to vote for them.
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