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Blogger Andrew Sullivan: Fox News Needs to Be ‘Demonized’ and ‘Cut Off’ Along With ‘Poison on the Discourse’ Rush Limbaugh

Nov. 10, 2012 1:24pm Madeleine Morgenstern

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Daily Beast blogger Andrew Sullivan said Friday that Fox News needs to be “demonized” and “cut off” along with “poison on the discourse” Rush Limbaugh.

“The first conservative who will be the future of that [Republican] party will be the one who says Rush Limbaugh does not speak for the Republican Party, he is a poison on the discourse,” Sullivan said on HBO’s “Real Time with Bill Maher.” “You see the media industrial complex on the right is so lucrative, they don’t want to lose him and it is now controlling a political party. That has to be severed, Fox News has to be demonized, has to be cut off.”

TheBlaze’s S.E. Cupp, also a guest, asked, “So we’re making arguments now to cut off speech instead of adding on?”

Sullivan said he was referring just to Republicans, not “everybody.”

“The Republican Party has to say, ‘We have no part of Fox News,’” he said.

Sullivan claimed last month that if Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney were to win Virginia and Florida, the “Confederacy” would be back.

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Small World
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:02pm
Whats the problem? Obama won in spite of Fox,Rush& Glenn.Maybe he is worried about Benghazi.Oh and we just gave Syria 34M in aid per Breitbart.

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- Faith1029
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:24pm
  Thank God for Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. The only ones telling the truth. If it weren’t for them, we would be no different than the other countries who use propaganda on their people and who don’t have a clue to what the truth really is.
  
  Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. Isaiah 5:20
  
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- vehoae
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:57pm
  Thank you, Faith1029. All that is taking place today has long been prophesied. Toward the end of the 1st Century, Paul wrote about itching ears (applicable to both secular & non-secular): “For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.” (II Timothy 4:3, NIV) Our Lord Jesus mandated in his revelation to John: “Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.” (Revelation 1: 3, NIV)
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 3:45pm
  VEHOAE This is the “falling away” the “apostasy”. Soon the son of perdition is exposed for the people of the world to see who he really is, so that a clear choice can be made. Only then will the Son of Man return to claim the earth. So I say:
  go bama go bama go bama go…….
  It will be much easier for the obama agenda to strip the unwashed of their delusion, than it will be for a thousand evangelists. Watch and see.
  
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- crazyrightwingmom
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 4:30pm
  Max: I agree with you. The country apparently needs to suffer more for them to “get it.” And I want Obama to “own it.” All the mess he wants to create…go for it!
  
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- DontCry
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 6:49pm
  Fox New lied to you. Do you not get it? Fox New reported that Romney had a clear path to victory, when everyone else knew the truth. Keep watching this evil channel that spreads hate. Pray for yourself, because a true Christian does not spend their day hating people.
  
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- yiska8
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:10pm
  @Faith1029
  I’m currently on the Book of Isaiah and it is very telling. As dismal and depressing as this week has been, and the knowledge that we will be forced to live in a Marxist Amerika under a tyrant elected by “Takers”, the Bible has been a comfort. And the rosary. Being Catholic, I feel that the liberal agenda is sick-minded and has even usurped the Catholic Church. Rush Limbaugh is not the problem in the Republican Party and he never has been. He holds them accountable. He nails Boehner, Graham, McConnell, and the Olympia Snows of the elitist wing of the Republican party. These people are the problem with the party. There is no other answer, but a third party with ultra conservative, fiscal guard dogs who adhere to the strict principles of the Constitution and who come to Washington to do the people’s will and not leave Washington as million or billionaires.
  
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- Jarhead 88
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 1:42am
  Don’t Cry – “Fox New”, twice you spelled it that way, Ebonics much? Learn English you stupid moron, then you might be able to understand how you are the one being lied to.
  
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TxSon
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:00pm
You liberal hypocrites really do make me laugh. In the same breath you can deride “hate” while you tell someone to go gas themselves. Are you really too stupid to see the irony?

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- CATSUEY
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:52pm
  Yes….. yes they are.
  
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- GodBlessed
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 3:09pm
  They are, they don’t even know what irony means. It’s that racist too?
  
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IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:00pm
When the msm do not pass out the truth and instead they bury it then they have lacked all respectability in front of God and people. The main purpose of a news organization is to keep people abreast of the news whether they agree or not as the people should decide and the government to be kept in check.
If we do not have truth in news we have nothing. A form of communism will take over and Soros will have won again.

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- DontCry
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 6:47pm
  As a Christian, how do you spread such hatred? Such hypocrites.
  
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- Wisdom7
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 9:23pm
  @dontcry
  
  You have no idea what you are talking about. Please point to the hate in that person’s comment. You are simply “christophobic”.
  
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- Salgofnir
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 9:28pm
  Dontcry,
  Please show what was said that was hateful. If you want to see hateful watch one evening of MSNBC. Al Sharpton is an anti-Semitic, homophobic, misogynist racist. The ignorant fat man would not know that the truth was if it bit him and is as hate filled as humanly possible. O.Donnell and Maddow. Next look at CNN.
  
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Chromo200
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:53pm
I believe that Andrew Sullivan should tell us what to think. He is such a great intelligent compassionate and understanding person. That before anything is said on Fox it needs to be checked by Sullivan. Conservative talk hosts should be monitored by Sullivan with a 10 second delay .. So if Sullivan does not like what is said, there is silence.

Welcome PRAVDA/Blogger Sullivan.

What really gets me is when things don’t work for the Marxists, they have two statements
“Sorry about that, I didn’t know”
” You did not tell me or you did not do a good job convincing me”

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Advection
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:52pm
They got one thing correct: Free speech IS poison to a tyrant.

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- Ceefour
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:07pm
  The TRUTH is poison to these bamster voting “citizens”…
  
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- CatB
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 4:25pm
  You only have to look at the price of gold and silver .. when it looked like Romney was ahead in the polls .. .and what has happened since Tuesday.
  
  http://www.goldline.com/gold-prices-charts
  
  These fools who support and watch these morons are going down with us . they just don’t know it yet.
  
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NotPoliticallyCorrect
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:51pm
Why that’s so loving and tolerant of you. I challenge you to listen to Rush for one week before you go showing off your ignorance again.

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- hatchetjob
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:19pm
  Here here!!
  
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Triple7
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:47pm
Observe the Marxists trolling propagandists on this thread. They will preface themselves as a good conservative and agree that Fox and Limbaugh or any other popular conservative should be curbed.
Free speech for all just more free speech for others!
It is always liberal?progressive?Marxists who bring forth the idea of suppressing speech. So the tactic on the subversives here and in the media is to always claim they are dissatisfied with Fox Savage Beck…funny how their audience grows. The Marxists are not at the point yet to simple remove opposing speech completely. But we saw how they took a low budget film maker and made him the patsy.
Animal Farm.

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- vehoae
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:59pm
  Kudo’s, Triple7.
  
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- Republic_of_Texas
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 3:17pm
  I question some of the motivations of the hard core libertarians who post here and wonder if they are in fact obamabots trying to poison the message by frightening off those who are checking out this thing called conservatism. Make it appear so narrowly defined that if you don’t believe in a conservative utopia, get thee gone progressive shill. Just like putting on a swastika t-shirt and attending a Tea Party.
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 3:49pm
  What scares them is the fact that firearm sales and CC permits are at an all time high, and most lefties don’t know how to clean a pistol.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 5:43pm
  REPUBLIC…..
  
  Yes. You’re right. Libertarians are sooo scary with their message of : Stop spending what we don’t have, Respect the Constitution, Quit nation-building, Get rid of the Patriot Act & TSA, Let States decide for themselves on social issues….
  
  oooooh… how frightening.
  
  Hope there are enough big- brother RINOs here to compensate for their belligerence!
  
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- strats
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:26pm
  The other day a ***** called me a *******.
  I laughed and we broke bread together,
  Didn’t know him from Adam.
  I think he was a Libertarian. Good time.
  We split the tip.
  
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- Republic_of_Texas
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:31pm
  EASTINFECTION – It is not the message. I agree with the message. It is the bashing of anyone who disagrees with them. The intolerance is too similar to progressives tactics and makes me raise my guard when someone professing liberty will not allow someone else the freedom to believe the way they want to. My statement was not against libertarian ideology. It was my suspicion that some who post here are progressives in libertarian clothing in order to frighten away those testing the waters. We want to win minds to the cause of liberty. Not drive the inquisitive away. Preaching to the choir will not win many converts.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 12:37pm
  REPUBLIC…
  
  thanks for the clarification. you definitely make more sense now.
  I don’t think many of the Libertarians around here are phonies but are possibly hyper- defensive as a result of getting pounded on frequently…. i do see your point, though. I believe the missing ingredient for the Liberty Movement is “Tact”.
  
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bigbear_awake
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:47pm
ndda yea think by bho

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llotus
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:47pm
They are not good winners. I`m guessing that makes them all losers. You can have winners that are still losers. Lotus.

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3Tesla
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:46pm
AS the death toll of 110 and uncounted misery of Sandy still marches on– here is what the compassionate tingler said:

Chris Matthews “I’m so glad we had that storm last week”

Did you lefties catch that ?? If Bush were Prez you clowns would be stroking now about the lack of concern for the ongoing tragedy that is SANDY !!

“Thank God for the storm a reward to the Godless.

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- Cavy2see
  Posted on November 12, 2012 at 5:39pm
  The more we talk the worse it gets…just like the first part of our nation…the founding fathers had all this chatter going on things were called different names but King George was like our president…taxing people left and right…some did not want to change to a new nation…we don’t want to change today either…back to working for ourselves…farming…and such….using our own resorses…clamping down our boarders…letting in people who want to do good into our nation…it is hard to control what is free…or to see what we have become when we are gifting to the masses…the old saying give them an inch and they will take a mile… is what we are seeing today…
  
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kalli
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:46pm
I’m really bored with these communist dolts thinking they rule this nation. Let’s relieve his heartburn and remove andrew sullivan from polluting the air we breathe.

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bigbear_awake
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:46pm
he thinks by demonize fox and Rush He might have what more viewers??

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mcnak90
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:43pm
this is off topic but has anyone here heard about louisianas petition to peacfully withdraw from the us? im wondering if anyone here has an educated opinion on it they wouldnt mind sharing?

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- Gourdy
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:48pm
  Didn’t they attempt that back in the 1860s? It didn’t go so well for them.
  
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- Advection
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:00pm
  Here is the petition:
  
  https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-louisiana-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/1wrvtngl
  
  The USSR broke apart, why not the USA?
  
  In any case, Louisiana and Texas do have the natural resources and geography advantages to become viable countries in their own right. Also, no more foreign wars. No more national debt. No more Prohibition. No more CIA. No more TSA. No more IRS. No more UN. The list goes on and on…
  
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- vehoae
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 3:03pm
  There are still two on-going efforts for secession. The thirteen or so southern counties of California have been working toward secession for quite a while. And then there is the secession project ongoing in Pima County, Arizona (which sits on the Mexican border, with Sheriff Arpaio’s Maricopa County on the north).
  
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momrules
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:43pm
Getting rid of conservative radio and Fox news has been in the wind for years now. With the talking point that the GOP has to give up on principle, get with the times, old white men ( really, old white women too)are worthless……..what did anyone expect?

Sullivan just got the White House memo and recited it. Watch for more MSM programs and liberal pundits to start talking about this very soon.

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- AbrahamsSheepdog
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:56pm
  And where are the rich young black guys on democratic side? Oh same Guys! So morals or No morality? Right or left, but don’t be cowardly Or sore winners.
  
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- BuckarooBanzai
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 10:30pm
  And do you notice how the couch the argument for shutting down free speech of conservative tv and radio as being for our own good? They are clever. They know the tactics to use to undermine those who disagree with them. The progressives are truly frightening.
  
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LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:43pm
The poison is all of the liberal propaganda machine, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and CNN. They are the demons who are hell bent on changing the republic into a socialist state. The liberal media is the only reason that democrats are able to win elections.

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Rayze78
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:41pm
So if he thinks Fox, Rush, etc. are hurting the Republican party, then why would he want these shows off air or ignored?

And he is basically saying “I want all shows that disagree with my views to be gone.” Spoken like a true communist.

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- Chet Hempstead
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 9:51pm
  Because he used to vote Republican and he would like to see them once again nominate somebody he could support.
  
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- SimpleTruths
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:08am
  That’s not what he’s saying, what he’s saying is that the Republican Party allowed itself to be taken hostage to what proved to be the voice of a minority of Americans.
  
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Todd P
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:38pm
I don’t know who that guy is, but I can tell you truly that I don’t care what he thinks.

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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:36pm
Another do as I say, not as I do idiot. Alinskyite tactics to persecute others for what you are doing.

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- khandahar&jalalabad
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:47pm
  That’s the most annoying tactic too. Like when the dems said Ryan wants to cut medicare. Seriously!!!! Oh no no no trust us we didn’t raid 700 billion from medicare it’s streamlining hurumph hurumph!
  So infuriating, urge to kill riiisssiinng ;).
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:33pm
  @KHANDAHAR&JALALABAD
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:47pm
  So infuriating, urge to kill riiisssiinng ;).
  —————————————————————-
  If things continue in this direction [highly likely] you just may get that opportunity.
  Personally I cant wait.
  Sheer Progressive elimination EROTICA.
  
  Seriously, the sort of situation we’re in right now is what gives rise to Fascism.
  It wouldnt be a bad idea if it could be temporary —– long enough to take our government
  back, regain liberty, and cull off the progressive population.
  
  If you could take bac control of all 3 branches then just cut off all the freebies.
  Cold Turkey. The moochers would have to get used to it. Just like the got used to
  receiving the redistributions.
  
  It even has a theme song
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEnNEIVR9EM
  
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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:38pm
  Harrumph, Harrumph, I didn’t get a harrumph out of that man. Ahem, uh harrumph. You watch your ass. (From Blazing Saddles) :-)
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:56pm
  “Thirty-six hours
  Rolling in pain
  Praying to someone
  Free me again
  
  Oh I’ll be a good boy
  Please make me well
  I promise you anything
  Get me out of this hell”
  
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- khandahar&jalalabad
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 1:14am
  @mercenary, I hope your not referring to me, if so i think you misunderstood. Obama and the gang raided medicare to pay for the healthcare plan. Then they turned around and tried to say the Ryan plan raided medicare. Here’s another annoying one from the left, republicans hate women. I’m pretty sure abortion has killed more women than any republican. Oh and soldiers in Vietnam were baby killers that’s another good one. I need a drink.
  
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Stiggs
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:36pm
Methinks the democratic populace are controlled by the liberal media and their OWN propaganda. He wants to shut up the conservative populace by cutting off the #1 network for ten years. Shut up yourself, liberal.

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joehildebrand
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:32pm
So the republican party should ditch fox news and Rush but the Dems can keep CNN, NBC, MSNBC, Hollywood, ABC, CBS, et al? Come on. Does Rush come on strong? Yes. Does he go too far sometimes? Yes. But it isn’t anything that I haven’t seen done on the left as well.

I would argue the exact opposite. The GOP needs to acquire more outlets and organizations to get their message out. The Blaze is a good start. The Dems are very good at coordinating their talking points no matter who is talking. The GOP not so much. It would help if the GOP had their own Hollywood hype machine too. That way you can just present your candidate as the “hip and cool” choice. That is how style beat substance in 2012.

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TexPat
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:32pm
Spoken like a true Communist. Shut down any opposing talk and ideas in order to continue the lies and indoctrination.

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- TxSon
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:02pm
  Spot on!
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 4:57pm
  Sullivan is confused. He wants a flat tax, limited government & is against the welfare state & yet he hates supply side economics.
  
  What is is really saying is that he works hard as a pundit, writer & editor to make money, lives in a high cost of living metropolis, so why are you making my life so hard by taking my money and giving it to a person who works naught.
  
  Conservatives are not against charity or welfare, but believe that what Benjamin Franklin believed. there cannot be a social safety hammok (instead of a net). The poor must not be made to comfortable. As Rush Limbaugh, who Sullivan reviles in knee jerk fashion, has said we spend $60K on every poor person or/family. Why is there a problem? It should have been fixed long ago.
  
  The problem is is that Sullivan has not studied economics in systematic & rigorously mathematical fashion. As such he does not understand Supply-Side Economics & is thus doomed to failure for the foreseeable future.
  
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Gourdy
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:31pm
Ya’ll don’t realize that Fox News and guys like Rush are selling a product, and their market is the angry white male. They make money hand over fist because of it. The hitch is that this demographic is shrinking every year and is helping the current GOP lose elections. I am, by the way, a middle aged, white — but not angry — male.

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- Triple7
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:39pm
  “..Fox News and guys like Rush are selling a product, and their market is the angry white male.”
  You sir are a full of sh** propagandist for the useful idiot masses.
  
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- Todd P
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:41pm
  Well, chin up. I saw a cover of NEWSWEEK that said “We’re All Socialists Now”.
  
  Pretty soon the white male will be extinct in Amerika, and we will achieve Utopia.
  
  Yea.
  
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- Metallicat
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:43pm
  playing nice is why we lost. too many “white guys” like you who “go along to get along” have sold us out for far too long.
  
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- Gourdy
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:53pm
  Triple7, it’s not propaganda at all but a verifiable fact. Jon Stewart’s market is young liberals — does he not skew his content to keep them happy? I think Sullivan is an idiot to suggest Fox or Rush should be demonized, but you have to keep in mind that those outlets are pandering to you so that you stay tuned in……they in turn reap the ad $$$. TV and radio have never operated any differently.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:00pm
  the republican entertainment complex
  
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- Lord_Frostwind
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 4:47pm
  Seriously? You are actually going to take the advice of someone who is a die hard Liberal and Obama fanatic on the subject of “how conservatives can win in the future?” That’s like taking bomb disposal advice from Al Qaeda! Sullivan would like nothing more than to see the GOP be destroyed utterly, or at least become the twin of the democrats, you think that might have something to do with why doesn’t want to see Rush, Glenn, or Fox around anymore? Please, please don’t be this big of a fool, otherwise we really are doomed.
  
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freenj
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:31pm
The Dumb and Dumber show!

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freedomisasfreedomdoes
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:31pm
Some other past regime called for suppression of speech

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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:47pm
  Look up the word “regime.” Andrew Sullivan is not a regime. He is a Republican who would like his party to return to sanity. He is calling for the grownups in his party to call on El Rushbo in the same way Bill Clinton called out Sister Souljah.
  
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- TxSon
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:08pm
  The difference, you freaking moron, is that Rush NEVER calls for anyone to be killed. Unlike Sista who called for a week of blacks killing whites “for a change”.
  
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- Metallicat
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:08pm
  Since when is Andrew Sullivan a Republican?
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:13pm
  Lloyd if you don’t think this government and economy are going to collapse in less than two years you’re in deep do do.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:33pm
  METALLICAT, I suppose that he is about as much a Republican as Joe Scarborough claims to be a Republican.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 2:39pm
  @LLOYD DRAKO
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:47pm
  Look up the word “regime.”
  ————————————————–
  Ive completely halted all attempts at communication with numbnuts like you.
  You’re too dense to even know who you are or where you’re at.
  Nothing’s changed except now that progressives have succeeded in their
  smear and terror campaign to continue in power, they’re trying to convince gullible
  GOP’ers that they should become liberal too.
  
  Sorry, I was born at night —- but not last night.
  
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- Metallicat
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 3:03pm
  @RJ
  Not very familiar with Sullivan,but the few things I have heard him say didnt sound very Republican to me. Labeling us Racists or trying to limit our free speech doesnt make him a champion of conservatism in my book. hes a fake liberal claiming to be Republican so liberal rhetoric aimed at Republicans seems credible when he backs it up and says thats whats wrong with “his” party.
  
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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 3:29pm
  Txson: Rush in his witty way did once suggest that Republicans should replace the levees in New Orleans with bags of money, which would then be stolen by poor people (read, black people), leaving the city vulnerable to a hurricane, which would then wipe it out, leaving Louisiana with an even more reliable Republican majority than before. This and other pronouncements from the Attila the Hun Chair at the very least suggest a callous indifference to human life, provided it is of a dusky hue.
  
  Metallicat & RjjingGadsden: Yes, Sullivan is a Republican who has never renounced the party as such. In the primaries, he backed Ron Paul, though he ended up backing Obama in the general elections.
  
  ProgressiveSlayer: Time will tell. Consider changing your screen name; someone might think you want to kill people, like the good Sistah.
  
  BodyBag: You seem to want to continue to communicate after all, so OK. It’s not progressives who want the GOP to become more liberal; they’d prefer to see it continue to veer rightward into sheer irrelevance. Real conservatives, if any are left in the Republican Party, would like to see it become less lunatic, not more liberal.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 3:50pm
  LLOYD DRAKO
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 3:29pm
  Real conservatives, if any are left in the Republican Party, would like to see it become less lunatic
  ———————————
  Alright, please define “lunatic”.
  Define “real conservative”
  
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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 3:56pm
  Some further thoughts on Rush. Many times I’ve expressed myself to the effect that he is one of the greatest radio presences, and one of the greatest propagandists, of all times, worthy to be ranked with Dr. Goebbels–and I mean that as a compliment! His wit is merciless, and often dead on, especially when he is skewering liberal smugness and hypocrisy over things like multiculturalism and the environment.
  
  The trouble is that his brilliance at rallying the troops is increasingly irrelevant in the country at large. Yesterday, for example, as conservatives from Hannity to Krauthammer were walking back their previous opposition to amnesty for illegals, he came up with a wickedly funny suggestion: immediate amnesty for all illegals, provided they disclose the length of their illegal stay and are barred from voting for as many years. An Indian student who overstayed his visa by 2 years? No vote for you for 2 years. A Guatemalan small businessman here illegally since 1990? No vote for you for 22 years.
  
  Of course, he wasn’t serious; he was advancing a hard-core anti-illegal policy while making fun of the backsliders. He’s one of those who thinks immigration policy is less important to Latinos than “stuff.” But don’t suppose recordings of that little performance haven’t been set aside for future use with Latinos when the electoral time is right.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 4:48pm
  @LLOYD DRAKO
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 3:56pm
  Some further thoughts on Rush.
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  You need a napkin to wipe the drool off your chin.
  
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- LucyFurr
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 5:24pm
  Lloyd Drako – Shut up
  
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Thornyrose13
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 1:30pm
And when Fox and Rush are silenced, then we have to put an end to “poisonous” blogs, and other radio talk show hosts…funny how people with free speech, like a blogger, feels the need to suppress the rights of others to say what they think.

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