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‘Viewers Ought to Be Outraged’: Frank Luntz Explains Where Pollsters Failed in 2012

Nov. 10, 2012 6:37pm Erica Ritz

Frank Luntz Explains Where Republican Pollsters Went Wrong in 2012

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Pollster Frank Luntz– one of the many to predict a Romney victory last week– appeared on Fox News Saturday to explain where Republicans took a wrong turn in forecasting voter turnout.

He explained:

“Look– the published polls that the Romney campaign and the Republican establishment were trashing day after day turned out to be accurate. And all the polls that are being done for the Republican establishment– I know that the House candidates who lost were shocked at what happened, the Senate, Republicans were supposed to gain seats they actually lost…

“This is a bad day for Republican pollsters, and it’s something that they should be held accountable for. You have to tell your clients the truth, and you have to be accurate. And to miss so many states and to be this far off, your Fox News viewers ought to be outraged, because day in and day out they were told that Mitt Romney was going to win, and the fact is Ohio was never up, Wisconsin was never up, Pennsylvania was never up…the published polls were correct. Nate Silver was correct. But the Republican establishment polls were wrong.” [Emphasis added]

Luntz then analyzed a Republican Main Street Partnership survey where voters were asked which groups they think Republicans are “most interested in helping.” By and large, the respondents seem to believe Republicans only care about “the wealthy” and “big business.”

(Photo via Fox News)

“That tells you the communication gulf between what Republicans were saying and what the average American was hearing– hardworking taxpayers and the middle class, half as many people said that as the wealthy and big business– it tells you that the Obama campaign got through the message that the Republicans were out of touch,” Luntz explained. “That the Republicans were defending the groups they didn’t like, and if there was a signal that the messaging wasn’t working, this is it.”

Luntz then commented on another poll in which 65% said balancing the budget should be Washington’s top priority, versus 35% who said preventing tax increases should be the main focus.

“So much of the Romney campaign was about preventing tax increases on wealthy Americans, when it should have been about cutting wasteful, Washington spending,” Luntz added.

Noting that many Americans don’t want a tax increase, but would consider it if Washington actually implemented drastic spending cuts, Luntz concluded: “To fight over the taxes is to miss the bigger issue for the vast majority of the American people that Washington spends too much, it wastes too much, and [you've] got to stop it.”

Here is video of the interview, via Fox News:

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Arizona4Ever
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:14pm
Sure, some people stayed home rather than vote for either candidate, but 14 million Christians/Catholics/etc *knew* what was at stake here, yet they mysteriously stayed home or voted for Obama. After this president’s policies birthed multiple Tea parties and grass-roots activism never before seen in the GOP, do you really, truly believe that the American people voted to double down on failure? Really???? Don’t you find swing states’ voter turnout at 130% or greater very strange? This “let’s deal with it and move on” attitude is what got us into this mess. There’s a petition at Whitehouse.gov calling for a recount of swing states. Maybe people should go there and sign it. 2 or 3 million signatures ought to do it. If people let this go, they’re opening the door wide open for yet more fraud and national malaise when it comes to voting.

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- JDale
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:36pm
  Where do you get the figure that voter turnout in swing states was 130%? This would be massively out of line with turnout in the rest of the nation — so, where can we find the actual statistics to back this up? Hearsay won’t do. I know some precincts in PA and FL were like this. But I’ve only heard isolated examples. Please — post the site[s] where comprehensive statistics are.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:45pm
  Laura Ingram said that if the republican party can’t beat Obama – they should disband. Has there been any progress on that? Seems to me we should get rid of republican party and replace it with tea party
  
  http://www.minnpost.com/eric-black-ink/2012/09/laura-ingraham-if-repubs-cant-beat-obama-they-should-disband
  
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- SistaTriscuit
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:56pm
  JDALE – There were reports of bloated voter rolls all the way back in September in multiple states. There were multiple counties in OH as well after the ballots were counted that ended up turning out at more than 100%, along with CO, PA, and WI. Obama won Wood County, OH with 108% of the actual registered voter total.
  
  Now, it seems to me, if you’re a person of integrity, no matter whether you’re liberal or conservative, that should disturb people, because it means our system is being abused. If you’re a person of integrity, you want your guy to win because he won it fair and square, not because he won it by fraudulent means like dead voters, people voting more than once, and the suppression of the military vote. The military vote won’t be counted because it was a day late? Please. Provisional ballots won’t be counted for weeks yet. It all stinks to high heaven.
  
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- Jarhead 88
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:01pm
  That chance is gone now, thanks to the takers and idiots like yourself, Soy. You were warned, many times. You dumb SOB.
  
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- toiletclogga
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:10pm
  Mabe they should send out the military ballots NOW for the 2016 election!
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:12pm
  they are foul and name-calling because they have no arguments
  
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- ImaCracker
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:23pm
  There was massive voter fraud in all the swing states. Massive Voter Fraud in St. Lucie County, FL – 141% Turnout
  http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2012/11/10/massive-voter-fraud-in-st-lucie-county-florida-141-turnout/
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:32pm
  @IMACRACKER
  I have seen at least 5 people post that same link. Did you even read the St. Lucie County, FL results??? It clearly says 71% of the registered voters voted for president- and Romney got almost half. How is that election fraud???
  
  People have the nerve to call Ron Paul supporters lunatics and nuts….Where is the consistency?
  
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- FreeUsAll
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:40pm
  “they are foul and name-calling because they have no arguments”
  
  That’s right. Strange how the “right” and “left” are so similar. Are you catching the hint, Jar?
  
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- LibertyOrDeath12
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:55pm
  What is at stake? Romney would have continued the same agenda and he is Mormon!
- revelation2012
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 9:10pm
  O will GO for THIRD TERM
  
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- jakartaman
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 9:22am
  White single airhead women!!!
  WE have had a Muslim commie for president our next will be a closet gay socialist women.
  We have lost our great Republic – shame on us – our founders are crying in heavan.
  
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- RedinDenver
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 10:42am
  It appears that “Recount” website/petition has been REMOVED. I got a “404 Not Found” error when I tried to access the petition.
  
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- walkintruth
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 11:05am
  What I don’t get is how the president could be giving an acceptance speech when there were still people on line waiting to vote? They didn’t way in the absentee ballots. So every vote doesn’t count. Some states were very close and those votes could have changed the percentage. If it were the other way around and it was Romney giving an acceptance speech while voters hadn’t finished voting, believe me there would be riots in the streets. I think the world should have waited for the following day to announce the winner. At least let the people believe that their votes were counted.
  
  Many people in NJ and NY were unable to cast their vote due to the hurricane. How can the country proceed with an election when the east coast was paralyzed? Where is the outrage?
  
  Another thing is that the polls ran out of ballots. This just doesn’t happen. They know exactly how many are registered to vote at each poll. That tells me that something happened to those ballots. There were votes cast for Romney that kept going to Obama in many states. This is voter fraud and probably the worse ever.
  
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- PYPYPY
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 11:09am
  I hate to say this, but I hope the Christian bigots get what they deserve for not voting for Gov Romney.They have dragged us into the gutter with them!!!
  
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- Jack_Reacher
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 11:25am
  Yep, the Catholics showed what they’re really made of and what they really think of their own religion by voting for Obama. Catholic voters appear to care nothing about church doctrine nor anything the Pope says. In other words, Catholics voted against their church therefore making them complete frauds. But don’t worry, a quick trip to the confessional, a wink and a nod and all will be made right.
  
  And for the 69% of JEWS that voted against Romney and FOR Obama, the next time Israel needs help, call the TSA and they will grope their way to helping you.
  
  Disgusting religious frauds
  
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- jmresler
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 11:27am
  @Arizona4Ever, yes there were many, many voters that didn’t turn out. The claim is that they were Christians and as a Christian I honestly doubt this. I know, *who am I to judge and I am not*. Ultimately only God will judge us. I am merely making an observation here. If they did not know of the assault on religious freedom after 4 years then they had to have their heads in the sand or did not consider this an important issue.
  
  Ironically most charismatic Christians are Democrat, despite what the news would have you believe. So maybe that explains something.
  
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- boyd9
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 11:41am
  I am not sure the polls were wrong. There are too many anomaly’s in the voting this year. I do not trust the vote counters any more than I trust the main stream media. I waited a long time to vote, a lot more time than I waited during the 2008 election, so did most people, yet fewer votes were counted in this election than were counted in the 2008 election. Something is VERY very wrong, but I am not convinced it is the pre-election polls, far more likely it is the Post election vote count.Electronic voting machines are too easy to rig and in many states only UNION people can work on them. I don’t know very many people who thinks this dishonest and cowardly President should still be our President. Most people believe the single biggest impediment to a good economy is President Barrack Obama. The only thing we can do is help a few states Secede so that the people who want to live free of Obamacare and Obama Tax increases have a place to come and prosper. The US is no longer an alternative to Europe, it is Europe.
  
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- DeOppressoLiber
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 12:12pm
  We need to investigate this election down to the counties or lower if need be. How can you have more people vote then registered voters?
  
  What is at stake, our very freedoms, we are losing our country.
  
  Allen West needs to be supported to push this issue, to the Supreme Court, if needed.
  
  Keep an eye on the voting machines, see if they are being secured or are they getting their annual maintenance which happens right after the elections to wipe them clean.
  
  One last question is the Romney team looking into the voter fraud.
  
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- PYPYPY
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 12:19pm
  Let us not forget Gary Johnson!!! Well Done Johnson!!! Proud of yourself? You moron. U really think you would win? In your dreams maybe!!!
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 12:23pm
  all the gary johnson votes combined would not have won Mitt Romney a single state
  
  stop blaming other people. you shouldnt have nominated or put up with a progressive
  
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- smv803
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 12:30pm
  Nope….I still think there was massive voter fraud. The dumocrats stole the election. Who in their right mind would vote for this fraud? I would like to think there aren’t enough stupid in this country to make that much of a difference…..At least I hope I am right.
  
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- Kadubato
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 12:42pm
  Love your comment—Re-posting on Facebook—Hope you don’t mind—I did not know about the re-count petition—Thanks for the info—-
  
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- Bum thrower
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 12:48pm
  The old ‘cronies’ gotta go; McConnel; Boener; Cornyn; Graham, and of course ‘corpse McCain’.
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 1:05pm
  This nation has been stolen……There is a supernatural component that you won’t recognize unless you are a student of biblical prophecy. I have posted this development and have kept a scorecard for the last couple of years. Step by step the the installation of the new order is coming to reality.
  The manner in which this ‘election’ has been manipulated shows that there is nothing that will be able to stand in the way of Bah Rahk being elevated to the leadership of this new world order.
  You just don’t know who you are up against. But, you will, if you have eyes to see.
  You just don
  
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- Jim S
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 1:51pm
  I see no reason to be “outraged”. However, the Fox folks should be viewed with the knowledge that they do slant news and opinion. So does MSNBC. So what?. Being given false information by the left or right is still false information. The voters had a choice from known bad to unknown bad and choose the known. The best argument FOR Romney was how BAD Obama was, that’s a sad reason to vote for someone. Perhaps we can find some folks that are worth voting for rather than voting against.
  
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- MadAsHeII
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:47pm
  SistaTriscuit, It did not seem to bother you and other Blazers that Romney’s campaign cheated during the primary, but now you are all concerned that maybe the Democrats cheated?
  
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- NukeHaze
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:07pm
  The election was stolen by the greatest percentage in our nation’s history.
  
  NONE of the poll models were using turnout numbers from the 2010 elections where the liberal progressive propaganda and vote stealing machine was actually caught off guard and severely lost. Does anyone actually think the grass roots movement LOST momentum or that we reversed our course to remove this lowsy waste of skin from office? 2008 election turnout was used in all the polls and even some outlets were caught showing their results before the election. Republicans for the first time since early voting and absentee ballots together were cast and counted OUTNUMBERED democrat. The trend was a crescendo and should have been a tidal wave of removal from office of most of these progressive communists. 2010 gave them a roadmap of where exactly they could severely impact the voting in the states they could win or where they needed to quell it and no one can question the results because of the George Soros appointed Secretaries of State emplaced as well as the Spanish Soros company that was involved in working the election. It was not the voters that decided this outcome, it wasx those who count the votes. It may be painful to have to admit to there being voter fraud on such a large scale but the truth is the truth and it has no agenda. If Soros uses elections to take down countries, we need to remain aware of this and still investigate how some precincts got 99% Obama vote. IMPOSSIBLE.
  
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- librarylisa
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:10pm
  Why is no one talking about dubious voter turnouts that exceed 100%?! Even the USSR did not get that kind of voter turn outs. It sickens me to see even FoxNews being just a tad too anxious to accept the results. Fact Romney had huge crowds & Obama did not this time. The Left cheated as usual and what is REALLY SCARY is that henceforth, they will always win because they have figured out how to cheat (via programing and media complicity). How else do you explain Mormons voting more for McCain than Romney?! Because sw cannot determine a voter’s religion. Ergo, 130% voter turn out in Utah. DEMAND a uniform way to vote and election integrity reform. Diebold machines may be the most difficult to tamper. DEMAND it from your representatives!
  
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- shorelineliz
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:22pm
  JDALE: HERE is the website for MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD: http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.ca/
  
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- NukeHaze
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:27pm
  Diebold reprogramming…If you think they cannot or have not cheated in this manner, there is absolutely a way to do so using the diebold machine without showing ANY evidence of it having been tampered with. Please be open enough to view this video from youtube and consider the sources such as blackboxvoting that try to show us how elections are now stolen by the counters.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRHxIImau_M&sns=fb
  
  The dialogue for conservatives was immediately challeneged as the future of conservatism was by even Fox news. Fox is NOT our friend. They began by giving conservative fair and “balanced” views over the years but have slid the viewers slowly back towards the left exactly like the Overton window is moved. Now those of us who are conservatives are steady in our principles and values but find ourslves out of the window altogether because we are not progressives. There are still a few voices on Fox that act conservative but we have heard O’Reilly on gun control and Hannity now on amnesty to get votes for Republicans. When Reagan granted amnesty, Republicans LOST nearly 10% of the latino vote at the George H.W. Bush election. Amnesty is not the answer. Conservative core values are shared by the religious latino population. Entitlements are buying what actual votes they are getting. The rest are obtained through fraud.
  
  If you have not yet seen them, Obama 2016 and “Dreams from my REAL Father” Amazon Prime on demand. PLEASE see these videos.
  
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- NukeHaze
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:34pm
  There is no way in heck that the voter turn out would have played out in this manner with expected Romney vote count from the Mormon population added to the Catholic and Evangelical even. There simply are not enough real living legal voters that are not felons and that are legal citizens to counter the projected Romney vote. The answer is not to change our belief system but to impeach this dictator after voter fraud is found to be tied to him even in the smallest manner. Then we can find out why they went to any means necessary not to lose this election. Sealing the President’s records act they tried to pass a couple months ago smells fishy to me. Anything dealing with Iran and Libya at this point as well as the Brotherhood and its likely involvement in the election. Admittedly that great effort would have to have been used in order to fraud this election but we are dealing with very powerful people in key positions. Beck needs to not be standing back or down on this matter because the results do not follow any line of logic and they knew this when the pre-voting day results were coming in and the military were not even yet being counted and likely still are not.
  
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- Simonne
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:36pm
  Their the ones I’m angry about as they knew what was at stake & they stayed home. As far as Laura Ingraham, I have no use for her. Mitt was attacked by Republicans on Baines & talk radio never got behind him until the very end. The tea party was strangely silent. Palin never liked Mitt & showed it so I guess they deserve what they got, Obama. We will probably never be able to get the WH back, thanks to them.
  
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- jdondo
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:52pm
  I looked on the white house website, and the petition is still there. Here are two links, one for all current petitions and the second to the recount petition itself:
  
  https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions
  
  https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recount-election/ZQmy0Mlv
  
  I read in a reply to your post the site was down.
  
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- Mulder
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 5:18pm
  Yes, we Republicans must face the facts that the majority of the American people want to reduce the budget deficit through both spending cuts and tax increases for the wealthy. Many polls have shown this, and the Republican politicians idiotic refusal to increase taxes on the wealthy has hurt their image and cost them many moderate votes. We got our butts kicked in this election, so we need to make some changes. House Republicans must do the right thing and compromise with Obama, even if it means raising taxes for the wealthy. If Republicans do not compromise and we go off the fiscal cliff, Republicans will be blamed and they will lose the House in 2014. Do not let this happen!
  
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- ThatsWhy
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 5:21pm
  https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recount-election/ZQmy0Mlv
  
  This is the petition for a recount! Let’s get 1 million to sign.
  
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- rc30
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 6:02pm
  Here is where you failed. My brother was calling me two weeks before voting in Michigan. Telling me how Obama people was knocking on his door 2 or 3 times a week. Telling how Mitt wanted to end SSI and take away food stamps and put all poor people in the streets to pay for the dept all lies. You sir and many other told us this was in the bag for Mitt. That turn out with the DEMs would be low. How many people that was going to vote stay home because of this. I’m from Michigan moved to west Texas in Feb of 09. Here the problem your ground game sucks. The people on welfare came out like mad to save there food stamps. Because they don’t know any better. Why because they only be leave what they hear and see on CNN. You need get out like the DEMs and start fighting back. They lie and are not called out for it. When the hell are us REP going to start calling DEMs out on this. Mitt look like a tool on the last debate and yes Obama won that debate. I was watching and pulling my dam hair out going WTF. On the last debate Mitt agree with Berry more then he didn’t. We lost because the higher ups don’t have a clue. I’m sick of voting too make sure one man get the hell out. Just once I would love to vote for someone I want too vote for. Not for the less of two evils. Like Allen West he may loose in the recount. But at least he tells the truth. The higher ups are to scared to call the DEMs out with the truth. But the DEMS can say we want to take away womans rights. LIES they use and wi
  
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- Ex_marine_dude_8313
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 9:10pm
  Move on friend. We lost. Period.
  
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- ProbIemSoIver
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 9:12pm
  The United States government created a CORPORATION called the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhxrazdGyyo
  
  “The very word “‘secrecy’” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it.”
  
  ““For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covet means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.”
  - JFK
  
  “In the counsels of Government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the Military Industrial Complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist.
  - Dwight D. Eisenhower
  
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- dirtypolitics
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 9:20pm
  These analysts are stupid and naive.
  
  There are three reasons why GOP lost.
  1. no ID, more illegal votes
  2. Black President, black racists vote
  3. Computer source code turns Romney votes to Obama
  
  Frank Luntz. Stop making money by analyzing something that is obvious. Obama did not win fair and square.
  
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- KC1
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 9:46pm
  Luntz Knows what went wrong, watch this video if youd like to win in 2014 and 2016.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC9Q7ufUsl4&feature=youtu.be
  
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- cosette
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 10:02pm
  RE: Petition on Gov. website…. To all who will engage in this folly… You do realize, I hope, that once you self identify, this perverted, corrupt anti-American regime will have the capacity to seek revenge. We have lost our republic. It’s time to face it. We have fought the good fight, but, not unlike others who have gone before us, we have lost. It’s over.The last best hope we have is for a miracle from God to remove them from office. This attempt will get you nowhere except perhaps whisked off in the dead of night. Heed my words, unless you really do trust the slug-in-chief who you have been deriding these last four years.
  
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- clodius
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 10:31pm
  the address for the petition is https://petitions.whitehouse.gov
  
  You have to give them your name and zip code to register your dissatisfaction with the way they stole the election.
  
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- clodius
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 10:47pm
  Why does WPTV list “70.7% of the district’s 175,552 registered voters cast their ballots in the election.” When St. Lucie’s own release on the website at SLElections.com says almost 250,000 votes were cast? Found here: http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20SOVC%20REPORT.pdf
  
  Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_st_lucie_county/st-lucie-county-election-results-posted-after-hours-of-delay#ixzz2BycSf9uR
  
  The election was rigged. I guess the pollsters didn’t take that into account.
  
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- milez5
  Posted on November 12, 2012 at 1:56am
  There is another problem. If we believe that Romney was robbed due to wrong doing by voting officials, well then, who would oversee a recount? No, we need to face the facts, Obama put together a coalition of the young—more girls than guys, but still. Jews, gays, union members and assorted far left loons and that turned out to be half the country. Maybe, as some have pointed out, we should rethink this very republic. Why should Texas and Vermont be under the same government? There is nothing sacred about our borders, if they have served their purpose perhaps we should change them.
  
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- aiello78
  Posted on November 12, 2012 at 2:15am
  There is nothing mysterious about Christians/Catholics/Etc. staying home. When you have religious convictions, you do not vote for the lesser of the evils. Establishment Republicans have a hard time coming to grips with that because they think everything revolves around money.
  
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- CynthiaCOG
  Posted on November 12, 2012 at 10:07am
  My gut tells me this does not add up either. I read posts all day long from others posting their experiences while at the polls. Most reports were of packed poll lines and good enthusiasm for RR. I was pretty shocked to see it swing the other way considering the mood of the country. It just does not feel right.
  
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- sickofitall50
  Posted on November 12, 2012 at 10:13am
  I am not sure about your quoted statistics but there is definately voter fraud and probably on both sides. However this is a fact I know and that is the state university in PA where my brother attends encouraged and allowed students who were (non citizens) to fill out voter registrations so that they could vote. A girl in his class was so excited that she got to vote for Obama and she is not a citizen. When he questioned how she could vote, She said “oh they just said sign your name, we will fill in the rest for you”.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on November 12, 2012 at 12:26pm
  No…it’s not as simple as Luntz says.
  Look at Ohio and Florida..roughly 100K votes more for Obama in Ohio and roughly 40K in Florida. Allen West is proving that election officials are mishandling votes in Florida. In Ohio your clue is in the early voting there….the democrats registered and bussed to the polls students, skid rowers, immigrants..etc. While this is not illegal a hint that it can be abused came from the resignation of Pat Moran, son of Jim Moran in how “harvesting” votes can easily cross the line into cheating.
  Look at Indiana which went Obama in 2008 but solidly Romney in 2012 by a differential of 10.5%. What’s the difference between Indiana and Ohiom, two very similar states? Ohio’s early voting.
  Look….messaging is important and the GOP’s message is already poisoned by the liberal media and education system even before it’s delivered. But this can be changed this isn’t beyond fixing.
  The liberals are dying for conservatives to become “liberal lite” and thus ensure that democrats stay in power..but that’s not what’s happening here. It’s not a platform issue, it’s the ability to get the message out to an electorate not already poisoned to it and more stringent vigilance and control of the polls in some states.
  
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vic138
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:13pm
Maybe Luntz should ask his focus groups whether they think the election was stolen. Then he should ask them how to prove and then if it would help his career. Then he’d be back to blaming repub polsters. Loser.

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- Arizona4Ever
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:23pm
  You can prove it very easily – count & verify. What’s the matter, afraid the truth will come out? If Obama legitimately won, why not do so? Indulge us “racists.” It couldn’t hurt. Afraid people will find out that the Dems pulled off the greatest fraud in American history ? Oh, and those 54 people arrested (so far) for voter fraud have nothing to do with it. Nothing to see here, move on.
  
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- CatB
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:31pm
  I agree .. after all the garbage we have found out since .. and during a COUNTRY wide recount and verify is in order .. or a WHOLE NEW ELECTION!
  
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- momrules
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:43pm
  Arizona………I’m tired of hearing that evangelical Christians stayed home because we would not vote for a Mormon. I am one and every E. Christian I know voted for Romney even if we were just voting against Obama.
  Maybe some stayed home but some people are actually blaming us for Romney’s loss.
  It was also strange how quickly Romney conceded. That bothers me.
  
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- freeberty
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 9:11pm
  Mom,
  
  1 Lesbian senator, 3 gay congressmen elected, passage of legalized pot in 2 states, 2 states pass gay marriage.
  Seem like Christians are becoming as irrelevant as republicans.
  
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- hillbillyinny
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 1:59am
  Christians may be becoming “irrelevant” in society, but we’re very relevant to God, the only one who really matters! We offer to you to become relevant too, but it’s your choice. “Stuff” today, or Eternal Life tomorrow. . . easy choice for me!
  
  In addition, why is there little to no discussion of vote manipulation through technology–changing of the vote matrix, etc.
  
  Oh well, believe what the liberals/progressives say and get sucked into their future. I’m praying for you.
  
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- Pantloadian
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 10:07am
  MOMSATOOL . . .The sleeping giant has awoken! Christians won’t be silent anymore! God’s
  will cannot be ignored! We are the righteous ones! God is on our side!
  
  Anything else you still believe?
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 1:35pm
  PANTLOAD…..The left will fail….YOU. There is no compassion, no loyalty. You are no more than cannon fodder to its power grab. Buh Rhak has no use for you but to elevate himself into the position of top dog. And that is OK. It is the will of God.
  Until the the “beast” is in power and the ‘real’ agenda becomes apparent, there is no recourse.
  It cannot stand for long, for it is contrary to the law and precepts of God.
  Just remember you are being led by people just like yourself….that can’t be very comforting.
  
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ares338
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:13pm
The whole Republican machine is completely incompetent. We should have lost the house also. That way the country could have down the crapper sooner. Amerika will be a third rate country in 4 years under the benevolent guidance of the thing in the oval orfice. Save yourself and prepare for the coming conflagration.

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- Stuck_in_CA
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:18pm
  It’s not that we stayed home. They’re lying to us!
  This election was stolen with MASSIVE voter fraud! Watch this. It’s only one example of what’s possible. (Uploaded by ResistNWOrder on Jun 9, 2010)
  http://youtu.be/k_rMpQKqZhM
  
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- smv803
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 12:49pm
  I agree, The election was stolen. Jews, many Blanks, many Latinos and boatloads of Evangelicals came out to vote for Romney! And yes, We have and are being lied to. All in the dem party are the devils children; They were taken over long ago.
  
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- fdraiden
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 1:15pm
  Agreed. The sooner we crash and burn, the better. Then we can start to rebuild! Maybe the people will wake up by then, but probably not!
  
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kalli
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:11pm
Voter fraud was rampant this election. This admin and campaign were not worried about not being re-elected. The fix was in, they had taken care of seeing the biggest fraud in election history was attained. And they probably drank themselves silly all night while laughing about it.

Illegals were forced by union bosses to vote, military votes never got counted. There are just too many things that don’t make sense.

http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/11/breaking-florida-showing-massive-voter-fraud/

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- Arizona4Ever
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:18pm
  Everyone I know online was saying on the morning of November 7th that we had just witnessed a Marxist takeover of our nation. It’s voter fraud. To question it is to be a “loser” or a “racist.” But this is our last fundamental right — to vote. Why do people think Dems wanted the voter ID laws tossed or defeated? Provisional ballot flooding and voter ID fraud. Kruschev once stated that America would be taken without firing a shot. Well, if we don’t at least LOOK at these irregularities and call for a second look, this is exactly what will have happened.
  
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- momrules
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:46pm
  Yes Kalli it was massive voter fraud and now a massive cover up.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:30pm
  @Kalli
  Your link shows that in that FL county, 71% of registered voters voted. And Romney got almost half of the votes….How is that election fraud????
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:06pm
  Jude:4 For there are certain mencrept in unawares,who wee before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God to lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord, God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
  Jude: 8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
  Jude: 10 But these speak evil of those things they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
  
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Small World
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:06pm
Hello there is no Republican Party. Only one big Progressive bunch of thugs.I am so finished with them all.Ready to petition to withdraw from the US like Louisiana. America is home of the brave and free stuff.

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- Stuck_in_CA
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:10pm
  Voter Fraud 2012 — A very long list of what really happened on election day:
  http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com/
  
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- CatB
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:33pm
  Run all those registrations through E-Verify .. I bet the outcome would be different.
  
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- Look4DBigPicture
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 9:15pm
  Thanks, Stuck_in_CA … I’ve been hoping the fraud reports would come out soon.
  
  I haven’t thought for one second that this was an honest election – nor did I expect it to be. FoxNews pundits and pollsters seem to be clueless of the ginormous corrupt machine behind Obama. Glenn Beck tried to expose it, but he was mocked and ridiculed not only by the liberals, but by the very people he was trying to protect. Welcome to Texas, Glenn. We love you and The Blaze TV!
  
  Am I the only person who thinks FoxNews is just another arm of lame stream media? I thought they were supposed to be the conservative voice of America, and yet they did NOTHING to promote Romney to help people know him better. I’m done with Fox.
  
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:04pm
“So much of the Romney campaign was about preventing tax increases on wealthy Americans, when it should have been about cutting wasteful, Washington spending,” Luntz added.

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Though this may be true, one way gets you campaign money…the other does not…at least not as much.

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 10:05pm
  very true. very true
  
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myptofvu
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:04pm
I was watching Luntz’s focus groups after each debate and each time there were undecided voters who had made up their mind for Romney so I’m not sure what he’s talking about.

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- honor007
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 9:21am
  right? His focus groups were right in line with the polls or showed Romney in a BETTER situation with voters than the polls. I am not understanding why Frank is trashing the pollsters, I am assuming he is speaking of the Rasmussen Polls, because those were the ones who had the better numbers. What he fails to mention is that Rasmussen is the pollster than is the most accurate?!!!
  
  The pollsters were wrong because they did not include those votes that were fraudulent. Having a tough time with Frank Luntz and this piece. He never gave his “opinion” howver, his focus groups were right in line with the polls that had Romney leading.
  
  People, look at the turnout rate in Allen West’s district and Cleveland, over 100% should trigger recount. I must say I would like the whole Country to do recounts, match up the felons and illegals who voted. Clean up the “actual” vote count. Wonder what result that would bring us? curious!
  
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GoodStuff
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:03pm
They see the GOP as the rich party??

John Kerry was twice as wealthy as Romney.

Obama won 8 of the 10 richest counties in the country.

So where does this false narrative come from? The media of course.

The media is the enemy.

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- No Grass
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:15pm
  @GOOD You are so correct! The media equation is promote sensationalism, preferably on a different vector than your media competition. This guarantees maximum profits for all sides of the media, the truth be damned.
  
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- No Grass
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:28pm
  @GOOD You are so correct! The media equation is to sensationalize, using a different vector than your competition. This guarantees that all the media get recognition, record viewers and maximum profits during the election season. The truth be darned.
  
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- CatB
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:30pm
  Exactly … they could not have done any of the cr*p if the press weren’t corrupt. This misery … both now and what is coming is on the MSM.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:49pm
  Remember it was Bush that allowed the media to consolidate the way it has. When you have like 6 companies that owning 95% of the media all rubbing elbows with Soros and the other globalists in think tanks, laws originating from the Republican congress allowing the state to legally use propaganda on it’s citizens, it makes me wonder if they’re really opposed to all this crap. I feel we’re being played as fools.
  
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- Jarhead 88
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:28pm
  JustAngry – Go away coward. Don’t give me your BS military stories either, punk.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:36pm
  Jarhead – the stuff you write combined with your grasp of reality concerns me. I really hope you are doing OK. There is nothing wrong with help – and i mean no disrespect by it. Too many of our best come home not the same as when they left
  
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- bintalshamsa
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:39pm
  Look at what you wrote. Kerry didn’t win, either. Uber-rich, awkward, blowhards aren’t all that appealing to Americans. The GOP could have looked at what happened to Kerry and realized that Romney was not going to fair any better. Instead, they chose to ignore the facts.
  
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- stiffingtheworkingclass
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:52pm
  No truer words were ever spoken. I’ve been saying that since 2008 (along with a lot of other people). I don’t know want we can do as ordinary citizens but something HAS to be done to rein in this corrupt, dishonest, borderline treasonous, far left bias media. There are too many stupid people in this country that can’t think for themselves, in addition to being too lazy to research multiple sources, and they buy into this ridiculous rhetoric that ALL democrats are brilliant, caring, honest defenders of the middle class and ALL republicans are moronic, fire-breathing, racist, warmongers that only care about the rich.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 9:17pm
  Jarhead, Yawn….
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 9:59pm
  OR! maybe it comes from the fact that Romney said that 47% of the country is “not his concern” and the fact that the republicans strongest point was don’t raise taxes on the wealthiest americans….
  
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Polarized America
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:03pm
I wonder how many people on the right stayed home because they thought ObamO was toast
and how many on the left felt the same which made them stand in such long lines for hours..
i know i was willing to bet the farm on a Romney win on election night, but i still voted
a lot of people are ticked off at Christie and i would like to add Trump, John Sununu and the rest of the arrogant sob’s on TV that though a sure win for R & R ..

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- Verceofreason
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:44pm
  That’s the point Mr.Luntz is making.
  You were led down the primrose path by
  lying conservative pollsters who wanted to make you feel good.
  
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- dissentnow
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:06am
  “a lot of people are ticked off at Christie and i would like to add Trump, John Sununu and the rest of the arrogant sob’s on TV that though a sure win for R & R”
  
  If Romney was a fighter like Sununu there would have been far more Romney supporters standing in those lines waiting to vote. Romney was Romney’s biggest downfall. He ran a lackluster campaign and failed to attack Obama. In fact, he let Obama get away with murder.
  
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Triple7
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:02pm
Frankie is deflecting and trying to wash his hands for being wrong. He needs to be relevant so he can make money in the next election cycle.
Fraud.

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- Stuck_in_CA
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:06pm
  Barack Obama Voter Fraud 2012 — A very long list of what really happened on election day:
  http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com/
  
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- Max jones
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:09pm
  How the hell do you figure in cheating….Automatically give the lefties a 10 point lead and go from there?….and who is going to hold the media accountable?
  
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TheReasonableLib
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:02pm
You people denied facts, science and reason and got your @$$es handed to you as a result. Case closed.

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- cyacademy
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:07pm
  What fact did Conservative get wrong? Please explain.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:09pm
  So in West’s case if massive voter fraud is proven and it turns out West had more votes we can expect to see your retraction?
  
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- The_Almighty_Creestof
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:16pm
  @ TheReasonableLib
  
  We may all be in the same boat heading for the cliff, with no oars and a hole in it…but, whereas we fought against the coming horror, you surrendered and went willingly.
  
  We may have lost an election, but all you won was the knowledge you helped to doom us all.
  
  So go do your happy dance, comrade.
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:18pm
  CYACADEMY – Don’t hold your breath waiting for a response. A Resonable Lib’s track record shows that the often write crap then pull a hit and run feeling proud of themself.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:18pm
  BTW WTF is a reasonable lib? There’s no such being because all the libs I know aren’t reasonable at all they’re not very intelligent and prone to thinking with their ‘feelings’ instead of their brain.So you must be the exception huh?
  
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- My Two Cents
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:55pm
  Them & us. That’s it in a nutshell. I remember a time when “we the people” came before party affiliation, our citizens were civil, we didn’t go around with our fingers in each others faces and we weren’t trying to get our hands on each others wallet. Sadly, I doubt if our younger generations will ever know what that was like.
  
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- Crazy Times
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:26pm
  @ TheReasonableLib,
  
  what you just said..you are like the The Right Ordinary Horatio Jackson in the Adventures of Baron Munchausen
  
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- Pantloadian
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 10:05am
  PRONGDAZZLER . . .Why so emotional? That time of the month?
  
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Arizona4Ever
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:01pm
Of course no one wants anyone to question these election results. The facts in the coming days will show that thousands of precincts all over the country were flooded with provisional ballots that would be thrown out if recounted and verified. If we can’t trust our own votes, we’re done. No one will show up to vote. It’s the last stop before we’ve totally become a banana republic. Doesn’t Glenn Beck say to “question everything”??? Well, lots of people are questioning _this_ turnout, and they have every right to. Our votes are the only thing keeping us “free.” If you’re ready to give that up, then go ahead and let Obama turn us into Haiti.

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Cottoneyed77
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:01pm
The American electorate, lets face facts, is stupid. They are all Kim Kardashians. Stupid fools, looking for the path of least resistance. They deserve a wrecked economy, where a loaf of bread is $20, gas is $7 a gallon, and electricity is a $1000 a month. It’s coming, the reelection of the Chicago street punk insures that! Live it up, fools……………..you don’t deserve freedom…..

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- LadyGOP
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:07pm
  Sorry to say but you are right.
  
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- Mike Benton
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:20pm
  You can’t have a free enterprise system without enterprising people.
  The old work ethic this country was built on is a thing of the past.
  It is time to face that reality and start to build a fair government system around that reality
  
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- My Two Cents
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:00pm
  The twenty something lady who cut my hair the other day thought Washingtion D.C. was in New York. When I said it wasn’t she guessed Pennsylvania.
  
  Lord help us.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:19pm
  Glenn Beck was saying that if America elected Romney, they it would have signaled a new start and a genuine reformation. But the difference between a Romney and Obama presidency was only about 200,000 total votes in a few swing states. We are the same country as two weeks ago. But because Romney lost by a small margin – you guys act like all hope is lost. I dont get it – what were you expecting….Romney to win 70% to 30%.
  
  We have had big big problems for a very long time – they are not new. Which is why we needed Ron Paul more than ever. Papering over the problems with a moderate was never going to solve them.
  
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- honor007
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:47pm
  @Soy, I think most people are in shock, like myself, especially those who seen the excitement on the ground for Romney versus Obama. I mean I live in a lil’ blue County totally west in Ohio and almost to Indiana, the Blue stuck out like a sore thumb on the map; not so much here on the ground. We have Wright State University, but we also have Wright Patterson AFB.
  
  The Saturday before the election, you have 30,000 in West Manchester,
  Glenn sold out a place in Columbus 8,000 + that same night,
  the same day Obama drew a crowd of a whopping 2800 in Columbus.
  
  To say the least, it just seems a little bit fishy to us on the ground, talking to others, alike and different as well. I seen one Obama sign for every 30 Romney and I drove around to different towns also.
  
  This Ohio vote that was reported, didn’t feel like anything I was feeling in my Little Blue County where no Obama excitement was present?
  
  Just sayin’??
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 9:28pm
  @honor007
  Yea and Ron Paul was drawing 10,000+ to some of his events towards the end of the primary. So either Ron Paul was cheated in the primary, or you cant base national support on a few rallies.
  
  After what happened with the Supreme Court Obamacare decision – was this election really that shocking? The republicans banked on the fact that their candidate wasnt Obama and had a clean record. Turns out, the American people want to believe in something. They like candidates who stand for something other than the opposite of the opponent. Honestly, someone like Ron Paul would have lit so many mental wildfires, it would be impossible to contain. But now we are just left with an empty campaign and worse off than we were before it all started. That is the true tragedy of this situation – and it is shameful
  
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- sWampy
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 9:50am
  Sorry Mike, you can’t make a FAIR GOVERNMENT, doesn’t exist. FAIR GOVERNMENT is like working socialism, can’t happen with humans involved. If you aren’t forced to work either at the heal of a boot, or for personal gain, most won’t and you end up a 3rd world nation every time. Some of us aren’t so lazy we will put up with 3rd world level of success.
  
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sWampy
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:00pm
Voter fraud and lack of back bone standing up, fighting, and not giving in. Clearly your youth are brain dead though.

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justangry
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 6:58pm
The Republicans have been screwing up royally in everything they do. Who is going to pay the price? I kind of expect to see the same people screwing up again in during the next cycle. We’ll see the same neoconservative pitching for war, the same fundamentalists shoving their losing / unconstitutional / progressive social policies down our throats, apologists supporting the welfare state, and bought and paid for corporatists screwing up our economy.

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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:02pm
  Who’s going to pay the price? All of us even OBAMAZOMBIES because their gravy train will be derailed soon and we’ll all be made equally poor.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:48pm
  Just, i am still cracking up over your “warmongering based on prophecy” comment. Did you come up with that?
  
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- justangry
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:51pm
  But the folks that caused this will be fine. We have the most regulated, advanced banking system the world’s known. Yet when all those crooks destroyed us, not one of them did any jail time. They seem to be a protected class.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:14pm
  Soy, Yeah, because it’s true. It’s why I believe they’re so easily manipulated by the CFR owned media. I think it’s a weakness really. They WANT to believe the globalists. They can duck the responsibility because “it’s what’s supposed to happen”. The biggest problem I see with prophesies is they’re often sell-fulfilling. If it’s inevitable there’s no impetus to try and stop it.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:26pm
  True man – thats why it is so funny (and sad). I would add “warmongering based on INTERPRETATION of prophecy”….LOL. It’s like biblical heresay – if Glenn Beck says Iran is the anti-christ they are all over it.
  
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Arizona4Ever
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 6:56pm
Check this out – from St. Lucie County — 141% voter turnout. Local News channel reports lots of blatant irregularites here. http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_st_lucie_county/st-lucie-county-election-results-posted-after-hours-of-delay#ixzz2BnaZZjja

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- PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:10pm
  I just sent an e-mail to the RNC telling them to get off their butts and get involved or do something.
  
  I sent them all the links to all the info that is coming out on the fraud. So, Frank you can stop apologizing now and get in the fight with the rest who are not going to let this election be stolen…You apologetic talking head…We don’t need another apology tour, this time from our side. We need to get a correct count in all the Swing States and probably more. TIME TO WAKE UP AGAIN…Don’t go back to Sleep NOW people. Please get involved. There could be as many as 16 million missing votes.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 10:04pm
  maybe you should check the article first because it is clear that 71% of registered voters voted, not 141%. Do your homework before you start banging the doors of the liberal republican establishment
  
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- RavenGlenn
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:11pm
  SOY, maybe YOU should dig a little deeper. Go find the actual report from that county. Their own unofficial report shows 141.1% voter turnout WITHOUT counting provisional ballots.
  
  http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20SOVC%20REPORT.pdf
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 8:07pm
  Yes Ravenglenn, i have looked at the details and the conspiracy you guys continue to put forth is garbage. This is so easy to debunk that you should be ashamed of yourselves. If you are going to promote a conspiracy – at least make it somewhat believable. Go to the official county results. You will see there was 71% turnout. The reason is says 141% in some places is because they counted total ballot sheets (2 per person) versus voting population.
  
  http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/rescan/GEMS%20ELECTION%20SUMMARY%20REPORT.pdf
  
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Cottoneyed77
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 6:55pm
It doesn’t matter what the republican message was or wasn’t. The MSM is not going to convey that message honestly. In short, they LIE. Until your message is conveyed honestly to the people, and a way is found to do that, the problem continues. The MSM is nothing more than State run media. Unfortunately, many people only get their information from them.

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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 6:52pm
All of this Monday morning quarterbacking is useless even with the massive voter fraud that helped the maniacal mulatto retain power.It doesn’t matter because the candyasses in congress are going to raise taxes to appease the collectivists demanding that the ‘rich’ pay their ‘fair share’ and it won’t make a difference,we’re being dragged down the drain where the parasites reside and we’ll be made equal,equally poor.

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DadRocked
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 6:51pm
Never paid attention to the polls anyway… Was too busy trying to get the vote out.

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- Republic_of_Texas
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 10:08pm
  You’re the man! We win this battle one person at a time, one mind at a time. We have a superior product to sell. My daughter-in-law was a flaming progressive two years ago, having worked at the local CBS affiliate. Little by little the rest of the family presented the case for the constitution and small “r” republicanism. At least I got to vote for one in Rick Cruz. While I can’t know for sure, I believe she too voted against the progressive candidates.
  
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Arizona4Ever
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 6:51pm
No, they need to do a recount. Many counties all over the place are reporting Obama winning in counties where voter tunrout is 110% to 141% of registered voters. Check out the Allen West recount – see for yourself. Problems in Ohio and Colorado, too. Amazing that even The Blaze isn’t talking about this.

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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:02pm
  Agreed, for I had heard on the radio some interesting B.S. so I looked them up for myself and found that in Philadelphia, GOP poll inspectors were forcibly removed from polling locations.
  
  Obama received astronomical numbers in those very same regions. Some locations he received “over 99%” of the vote.
  
  Ward 4, which also had a poll watcher dressed in Obama attire, went massively for Obamawhere he had 99.5% of the vote, beating Romney 9,955 to 55.
  
  Voter turnout in Philadelphia was around 60 percent, according to state election figures while in these precincts it was well over 90% according to House Speaker Sam Smith of Pennsylvania.
  Clear fraud, odd percentages, and numbers that don’t add up?
  
  Same thing in 44 Cleveland districts where he won 99.8% of the vote. In Ohio, Obama won in a county with 108% voter registration!
  
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- k8ti
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 1:44am
  I know….this makes me sick! WE ALL KNOW there was massive voter fraud….just take a look at the 2012 “heat map” where is shows by county how they voted. The WHOLE country is a SEA of RED for Romney….only in the big urban city areas was it blue (but those few counties with the big cities decided the election for the rest of the country). So much of the numbers just don’t make any sense….we got robbed, and this was planned a long time ago!
  
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unsafe
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 6:49pm
The only problem is we are out numbered by the Bottom Feeders!! Now cut them off and see how much they love the taitor in chef or the half breed or what ever you care to call it.

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AJAYW
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 6:48pm
As always a Monday morning call

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banjarmon
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 6:47pm
Republicans should have been hitting on ALL of BHO’s failed policies!!!!

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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 6:53pm
  According to some that I even know, BHO had NO failed policies… Can’t change Stupid !
  
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S-O-B-E-R
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 6:44pm
I am.

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MatrixRedPill
Posted on November 10, 2012 at 6:44pm
We need to reach the young people. This is their future after all.

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- unsafe
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 6:51pm
  F them dumb ass kids I sick to death of the freaks…
  
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- honor007
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 6:52pm
  The young people will figure it out after they are called out on their debt owed to the Government through Obamacare via their student loans. Or after they figure out it’s no fun living at Mom’s and not having a job opportunity in the field they studied.
  
  They just have to “suffer” a bit more.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:00pm
  Um we did reach the young people this time around. And then the establishment crapped all over the guy that was reaching them. We’ll be fine as soon as they’re in charge and the socialist security religious zealots are finally out of there way.
  
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- myptofvu
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:01pm
  The young must be beyond reach. They are aware of the employment situation they face once they leave college so in their own self interest jobs should be their #1 concern. They had their choice between a job destroyer and an MVP, ProBowl, Superbowl ring wearing jobs creator. They chose the former. For the life of me I can’t understand why. You can say that its due to Liberal indoctrination but still people will vote what’s in their self interest so why didn’t they vote ROmney?
  
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- justangry
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 7:26pm
  @myptofvu, Perhaps they realize it’s not the president’s job to create jobs. Perhaps they understand the benefits of separation between the state and the market. Maybe they’re weary of the wars, understand the difference between capitalism and corporatism. Perhaps they realized that we can’t preserve the state, expand the military, lower taxes and reduce the deficit. Perhaps they realized Romney wasn’t planning to end socialism he was only offering to make it work better than the other socialist. Maybe they’ve read the constitution and understand why we’re supposed to have the right to due process, privacy, and to peacefully assemble and protest. Perhaps they get it more than the old timers because the person they rallied around actually told them the truth and made them aware of the evils of the Federal Reserve. Actually I found it refreshing that so many that were indoctrinated in socialism actually rejected all of it rather than just the parts they don’t like.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 8:16pm
  its amazing that people around here act like it is impossible to reach the youth and lower income people. But they ignore the fact that they trashed the only guy who was capable of it (and he happened to be the most Constitutional).
  
  I guess it is part of the pure schizophrenia of the republican party
  
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- FreeUsAll
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 9:00pm
  The youth vote was with Ron Paul. You want the youth, then start LISTENING to the youth. The twenty-somethings, though slightly younger than I, know something that old republicans don’t or won’t get. They see things for what they are, not what they are perceived to be. Listen to them! Listen to us!
  
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- BigSky
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 9:29pm
  @MatrixRedPill: Which ones should we listen to? The Sandra Flukes of the world or the ones swimming in college loan debt sitting in their parents basement on their laptops accusing me of not paying my fair share of their debt?
  
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- BigSky
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 9:30pm
  @FreeUsAll: Actually the youth vote was with Romney. Ron Paul wasn’t even on the ballot.
  
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- revelation2012
  Posted on November 10, 2012 at 9:37pm
  for the love of GOD
  
  JESUS CHRIST IS LORD!
  
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- eek
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 4:25am
  You can’t reach young people unless they want to be reached. Perfect example: my sister’s friend is a student and was working part time, got laid off. One company laid him off due to budget cuts, the second company closed shop several months after he was hired. His girlfriend left him because she was sick of spotting him money for his bills and there he sat with his finger joining his head up his rear end with college loans out the ying, no food let alone electricity or gas, and an eviction notice because he was 3 months behind on rent, luckily for him his mom took him back home. He proudly told us at a bbq that he will vote straight democrat and we will never understand how promising they all are and how they want to help each individual person especially people like him. He said he’d rather go hungry or without a place to live before he sees a woman go without birth control or a gay couple not able to get married.
  
  Can’t argue with logic now can we?
  
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- Bluenoser
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:23am
  The Primary process killed Romney and the GOP. Every single opponent called him a liar through the process. Then had to stand behind him. None of that can overshadow the fact that in the last 40 years when the GOP was in power there was no reduced spending and no reduction to the deficit.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 12:24pm
  romney killed romney. he should have let someone who represents the party and real ideas be the nominee. at the end of the day, his ambition is what motivated him
  
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- justangry
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:31pm
  Yeah Soy, Romney killed himself. My mother who’s a Democrat, in name only. She’s really a libertarian, that doesn’t realize it but old an stubborn. Anyway, she voted for Romney because she was convinced he’d repeal Roe vs. Wade. Now the ‘conservatives’ hated Romney because they believed he was pro-choice. That’s the cost of flip flopping. The only thing he didn’t flip flop on was being a fascist authoritarian.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:32pm
  Meh.. She voted for Obama because she thought Romney was pro-life.
  
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- Annapurna
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 5:01pm
  Well, “Just Angry” you can’t fix stupid. Anyone who voted due to the politician’s abortion stance is an idiot.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 5:19pm
  @Annapurna, Tell me about it. I tried to tell her that her candidate didn’t even support our right to a trial, but she voted for him anyway. Talk about stupid.
  
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