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Bureaucratic Nightmare: Pentagon Benghazi Timeline Contradicts CIA

Nov. 11, 2012 2:03pm Mytheos Holt

The election may be over, but questions over the Obama White House’s handling of the Sept. 11 attacks in Benghazi, Libya remain. And now that CIA Director David Petraeus has resigned from his post citing an extramarital affair, those questions are likely to either get a lot more difficult to answer, or a lot less difficult to answer, as more information trickles out.

And indeed, some information already has. On Friday, the Pentagon released its official timeline of the response to the Benghazi attacks through an anonymous official. Fox News caught the release of this information, and has done the necessary job of comparing it with separate accounts of the attacks by other sources including the CIA.

The accounts diverge and discrepancies abound. From Fox News:

Right from the start, the Pentagon and the CIA timelines do not match. (The CIA timeline, which was released on Nov. 1, states that at 9:40 p.m., “A senior State Department security officer at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi called the CIA annex and requested assistance.”)

A source at the CIA annex that night told Fox News that when they first asked to go and help, they were told to wait.[...]

For nearly an hour, no one told the defense secretary and Joint Chiefs chairman that a U.S. ambassador is in peril and his personal security officer has pressed his “personal distress button” which sends an SMS signal back to the command authority in the U.S. and a U.S. embassy has been overrun by attackers.[...]

According to the senior U.S. defense official who briefed reporters on the timeline, “There has been a great deal of speculation about the use of or desirability of military responses. Some have indicated manned and unmanned aircraft options would have changed the course of events. Unfortunately, no aircraft options were available to be used or effective.”

According to a source who debriefed those who were at the CIA annex that night, “When they asked for air support, they were told they could have an unarmed drone.”

Based on just this small sample, it should be clear that the CIA’s account of what happened and the Defense Department’s account of what happened cannot both be true at the same time. And the above truly is just a small sample of the bewildering differences between the CIA’s and the Pentagon’s stories.

Moreover, whichever one is true, many will find something to criticize in the response by the administration. The Pentagon source reportedly told Fox News that it took General Martin Dempsey and Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta more an hour (78 minutes, to be exact) to meet with President Barack Obama after they already knew the attack had begun. Such a delay arguably indicates either hubris or incompetence on the part of Dempsey and Panetta for not immediately bringing the subject to the attention of the commander in chief.

Finally, if the response by the administration was slow, the military’s response was even more sluggish. It reportedly took five hours for two Marine FAST teams to arrive in Libya, and one plane carrying military assets took 20 hours to arrive, even though it was coming from a location just two to three hours away. Survivors of the attacks have quoted particular radio dispatches which the Pentagon now denies ever took place, and the CIA and Pentagon records diverge as to when a rescue team sent from Tripoli arrived in Benghazi by 15 minutes.

In short, the waters have only been muddied when it comes to Benghazi, and answers now appear an even more distant prospect. In the absence of clear information, the finger pointing and mutually exclusive explanations are likely to continue apace.

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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 5:58pm
First it was Fast and Furious. Now it’s BenghaziGate. Nothing will become of any of this and we all know it. Treason and Murder in the highest levels of American Government and Military. And Preppers are called insane !!!

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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 6:16pm
  I am not naive and I will NEVER give up… I do not believe in quitting and OUR country would have failed tens of generations ago if we believed this crap from quitters.
  
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- Odyessy
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 6:47pm
  Just another bump in the road on the highway to destruction.
  
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- 2B
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 9:57pm
  I think the Republicans should not do ANYTHING about the “fiscal cliff” UNTIL we have all the answers about Benghazi! Barrack’s government is corrupt to the core and it is time the Legislature stood up and did their job! Barrack should have been impeached a long time ago. I called multiple times and the answer I got was it didn’t matter what the Legislature did, Barrack would not be prosecuted in the Senate with the Democrats in control. WHAT??? Your responsibility hinges on what someone else would do? No wonder Republicans can win the Presidency. Get some guts people. Either that or get out and let the Tea Party or Libertarians get some back bone in Congress. If the Legislature does not hold out and get answers on Benghazi, they are just as much of the problem as Barrack is.
  
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- NeilChapin
  Posted on November 12, 2012 at 6:07am
  This administration’s scandals should have been enough to sink it for any chance of a second term, but Americans have become selfish and only care about what their government can give them “free”. Read fresh political commentary at: http://smallcraftadvisorychronicles.blogspot.com/
  
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johnannegalt
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 5:44pm
We need to get rid of these thugs and their lack of moral values..

http://markamerica.com/2012/11/07/establishment-pundits-miss-the-point/

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- Chromo200
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 9:12pm
  How .. without armed revolution, it won’t happen .. 50% of the country voted for the Liar in Chief because Romney made fun of Big Bird and wanted to cut off their killing fields.
  
  They are protecting Obama no matter what. Even Republican Congressmen are protecting him.
  
  I haven’t and will not forget all of this BS from Washington. But History will repeat it’s self and there will a world war and or revolutions where people may come to their senses. And the leader will be sent to the Isle of Elba.
  
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Crazy Times
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 4:36pm
WOW great story from Fox News.. and with that we see that Captain Obvious strikes again!

How about this Fox, why don’t you do your job, instead of sitting around like the rest of the MSM does and actually report on it WHEN IT HAPPENS.

Bullcrap from all, questions from none.

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wordsofwisdom
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 4:03pm
I can only assume that someone is lying. I can further assume no one is going to do anything about it. I can assume my self right into believing that we are about to enter some real turbulent times. If our government will not protect their own how can I expect them to care about me? I can’t! Fact’s are such that one could assume that we are in the last days of normal life as we know it. Maybe even “The End Times” http://youtu.be/vgDkznPS4zI and maybe not. But one thing is abundantly clear. Life is about to change for a lot of people in the world!

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Walkabout
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:11pm
It was seven years before the Russians decided to pullout of Afghanistan. We ramped up aid every year until then.
The Russians learned form that experience. Is the Turkish Prime Minister made of the same stern stuff as the Pakistani leader of the 1980s?
This time there there are more parties involved such as Al Qaeda & Hezbollah. Hezbollah has secured many rear areas for Assad. Hezbollah has committed at least 5,000 men compared to the Syrian rebels which have 30,000. But considering the 5,000 is an outside dedicated force that is in addition to Assad’s Army & however many Iranian also, it does not look good.

Besides the bulk of the Rebels are Muslim Brotherhood (MB) or Al Qaeda. So who are we going to support? If this is more than a bleeding operation, we lose. The MB will say TYVM under their breath as they go about trying to destroy us in the future after having helped them. So why is MAOBama assisting them?

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brtmchl30
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:10pm
George Bush hacked the white House sit room, the CIA, and State Dept ect, from his evil republican funded satellite orbiting the earth, that was originally designed to disenfranchize illegal immigrants but turns out it is useful in thwarting the big O’s peacful middle east policy. As soon as the call came in he interupted the signal and gave the order to stand down. Then went about his business of trying to get all the oil from the middle east, while simultaneously causing a Hurricane to demolish the rival democratic states in the northeast. But our fearless leader, fought through all of this, by finding out that it was Bush. He couldn’t prove the hacking part, but he did know that he was a silent partner in the evil you tube video. It will all come out in the end. Trust Him. His peace policy is a miracle, just one hug from him on Christie and he accomplished what he said in the beginning of his presidency. The waters receded and the nation healed. He will do the same in the middle east he just needs to figure out who to hug and how to shoot down that damn sattelite.

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- Justthefactsmam
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:40pm
  ROLFMAO!!! good one…thanks…needed a good chuckle
  
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- Justthefactsmam
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:43pm
  Sorry…ROFLMAO…am sometimes a keyboard dyslexic
  
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- piplovestheUSA
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:52pm
  Finally someone with the truth. Best post ever.
  
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- beckwill
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 4:05pm
  Watch the MSM nightly news carefully as your account of events could very likely be their explanation. Don’t believe me? Let’s consider Al Gore’s “altitude” explanation.
  
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- pitboss711
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 4:07pm
  Tell you what, Boris…come back and tell us how great “Fearless Leader” is after the economy collapses from his suppressive business regulations and out-of-control spending, and you’re digging your daily meals out of a trash dumpster.
  
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mjgma
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:06pm
No one is going to ask the right question to the right person and if they try, they’re going to hear “Executive Privilege”

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- nzkiwi
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 4:10pm
  @ Mjgma
  
  I don’t think so. The truth keeps trickling out at a steady pace and I don’t think that they can stop it.
  
  We are now aware that Amb. Stevens was heavily involved in supplying war materiel to the “rebels”, as well as recruiting. I say “rebels” because German intelligence has learned that as many as 95% of the so-called “rebels” are from outside Syria, and they are mostly MB/al-Qaeda.
  
  Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the US has been supplying the “rebels” through Turkey. Qatar had wanted Syria’s Assad to concede power to the Muslim Brotherhood and allow a gas pipeline through his country. When he declined, the Qatari leader assured him that he would be deposed. The USA joined these nations, and Turkey, to bring this about. Turkey’s government authorised war if attacked, with Mr Erdogan itching for an excuse to do so.
  
  Unfortunately for the plotters, Syria’s people mainly support Assad and the rebellion stalled. Then the USA got cold feet and wanted out. Why? Well if Turkey, a NATO member, attacked Syria in supposed self defence, that would require NATO forces, including the US, to support them in the war. On Syria’s side, by their own declarations, would be Russia, China, and Iran.
  
  Oops.
  
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- nzkiwi
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 4:15pm
  cont.
  
  So Amb. Stevens told the Turkish diplomat (I’m assuming) that they were not supporting the MB insurrection further. The Turkish diplomat walked through the MB roadblock that had already been set up and did not warn the ambassador.
  
  The attack began and Mr Obama (and it could only be Mr Obama) issued a general stand down order. He deliberately abandoned those men to avoid fighting the very people that he had been supporting, and to avoid the truth coming out prior to the election (my assumption). The Obama administration hastily put together a silly cover up story that began to disintegrate almost immediately, despite them clinging desperately to it for over two weeks.
  
  The Obama administration has been actively supporting regime change through out the Middle East and handing the entire region to the MB. Complicit in this is Saudi Arabia and Qatar, which are both MB/al-Qaeda sponsors.
  
  In doing so, they have broken US law, as well as international law. And in no small measure. Except for my two noted assumptions, those are facts and they must be addressed.
  
  Now the fight begins to avoid Mr Obama taking the same ignominious departure from the White House that Mr Nixon did.
  
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barber2
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:06pm
Want the investigation to also include: who was the female who gave this “tip” to the FBI ; when did she give them this; who / when in the FBI followed up; who / when in the White House was given this information; who / when told the president. THIS ENTIRE THING STINKS of DIRTY TRICKS and cover-up.

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AJAYW
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:03pm
keep in mind this was only a bump in the road for obama. He got over the bump and is laughing at the congress account he knows they will give him a pass.

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dickdastardly
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:56pm
Something has to stick to Barry just once…where’s the justice?

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- lel2007
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:08pm
  obama & Co are in charge of justice.
  Maybe obama will hold a beer summit with the new CIA head, the FBI, and any other military officials that may have been aware of theBenghazii situation. I’m sure the story line could be straightened out in a few hours.
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:13pm
  His time will come. Although just an idiom, where there’s smoke there’s fire will hold true – Time will catch up to this administration
  Cover ups are taken very seriously in our country. Forget that it is no longer for it is still OURS!
  So Carolina Congressman Trey Gowdy for one is not one to bloviate with… He does have the gonchas
  Forget Boehner, this is still politics at play and quite a few want his job for their political future.
  
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- mamatango
  Posted on November 12, 2012 at 3:47am
  @dickdastardly
  
  Oh, something did stick!!! —-Teflon
  
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endthemindlessspending
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:53pm
Tell us something we don’t know. We all know everyone in Washington has given us twenty stories, that was their plan from the beginning. Start mass confusion to prolong the investigation. Meanwhile, they’re destroying all the evidence. It’s the shitcago way of politics and always has been.

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- DadRocked
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:00pm
  Concur
  
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RaydocX
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:52pm
none of this matters, though…
the Administration has spoken… the vote ‘proves American wants Obama and his foreign policies to continue,’ or hadn’t you heard? It did not matter to the Congress before the election the myriad lies/ stories/ timelines, none of which matched.

Obama has given them Petraeus, a man too out of self control not to sleep with someone other than his wife, an apparently unstable woman who was ok cheating but could not tolerate the thought another woman also might be enjoying his attention, at that.

So we are going to be told (and Congress will believe) that HE was somehow the mastermind behind the ‘it was the movie’ lie that the ADMINISTRATION told for two weeks. The smokescreen to hide what the ADMINISTRATION was really doing will be bought by Feinstein and all the other leftists who are only looking for their own personal power, so that the ADMINISTRATION can go on with business as usual.

Don’t let them… Remind your legistlators, that even if Petraeus was so distracted playing footsie that he did advance the ‘it was a movie’ theory, it was NOT the belief of the miliatary, facts contradicted it almost immediately, and the ADMINISTRATION chose to perpetuate the lie.

And it was the ADMINISTRATION watching our people die and trying to begin spin control instead of trying to get in to protect our people.

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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:11pm
  You are so fixated on Benghazi, because 4 Americans regrettably died there, that you are not looking at the larger picture.
  
  As of mid-September, there was protest against the video all over the Muslim world.
  
  Was it not important to attempt to try to damp down this anti-American wave, artificially ginned up though it was, with statements emphasizing that A) the video does not represent America’s “official” view, and B) we do after all have something called “freedom of speech?”
  
  That is what Obama, Clinton, Rice et al. were trying to do.
  
  It does not make them, and maybe Petraeus too, less culpable for not having provided greater security prior to the event.
  
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DadRocked
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:49pm
Maybe… Just Maybe… The timelines are different for a logical reason. The moon cycles every 7 days. On 15SEP2012 it was in the New Moon phase – 22SEP First Quarter phase – 29SEP Full Moon phase – 08OCT Last Quarter phase – - – - So as illogical as this administration has been thus far maybe they work off of different time lines – or on different planets

Rotation period
Planet Days Hrs Min Sec
Earth 0 23 56 4.1
Mars 1 0 37 22.7
Jupiter 0 9 50 30
Saturn 0 10 39 24
Saturn 0 10 14 9
Saturn 0 10 38 9
Uranus 0 17 14 24
Neptune 0 16 6 36

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streetrodder
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:45pm
This whole thing is bull crap. Sombody told them to stand down who was it? Gotta be Obama or sombody would have been thrown under the bus by now.

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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:04pm
  The order was not to stand down, but to delay action until Libyan reinforcements could arrive. The order almost certainly came from the embassy or CIA in Tripoli. When help did not arrive after 20 minutes, the team from the annex went to the consulate anyway. Some Americans were rescued, but if the consulate was already on fire, it’s likely that it was already too late for Smith and Stevens. Even today, the president was probably the last person in the chain of command to find out what was happening.
  
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- barber2
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:10pm
  DRAKO must work for the Obama State Department…… LOL ( pssst: tell Dear Leader that the American people do not buy ANY of this garbage ) INVESTIGATION DEMANDED TELEVISED ON FOX..
  
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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:22pm
  Barber2: Sorry, I do this for free and for love of country, not for pay. I’m looking forward to the investigation too! I hope it’s televised live not just on Fox but elsewhere. There’s certainly a whole lot that we need to find out about Benghazi, about the failure to provide security prior to the event, about the actual events, and about the administration’s after-the-fact handling of it. I just don’t think it will be the political mother-lode you expect it to be.
  
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- endthemindlessspending
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:33pm
  @LLOYD DARKO
  
  Why in the world should an American Ambassador have been waiting for Libyan Militia to protect him? That is the stupidest thing to ever do. He should have never have been there in the first place, yet not given ampul security for his safety.
  
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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:58pm
  @EndtheMindlessSpending:
  
  “Why in the world should an American Ambassador have been waiting for Libyan Militia to protect him?” An intelligent question! Why indeed? Requests for greater security for Benghazi were sent to Washington in August, but (obviously) were not acted on. My guess would be that our Libya policy since the original uprisings against Qaddafi has been to keep our strictly military footprint there as small as possible. Probably the desire to avoid mission-creeping into another Afghanistan or Iraq is at the root of this hands-off attitude. The Libyan government is friendly, and the bulk of Libyan opinion, so far as it can be determined, seems to be pro-American. So why not rely on friendly Libyan forces, along with military contractors hired by CIA, to provide security? In retrospect, it was not enough, but I think you will find nothing that rises to the level of criminality or treason, however much you may wish it did.
  
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:43pm
No nightmare for the people who are paying attention: just more proof of the massive cover up of this mess that keeps changing, morphing and evolving into one more lie and denial by the administration. They cannot get their own stories straight – and I have to wonder if some patriots on the inside are doing all they can to silently ensure this is so.

Just a hunch on that part.

Benghazi and all the other scandals and treasonous activities have to be brought out into the light and all involved stripped of office and held to account under the law. That goes from Emperor Caligula-Obama on down the line.

Understand that our nation no longer is governed by, for and of the people; it is now governed by and for and of the unions, radicals, internationalists, globalists and those who wish to turn us into a true communist state once and for all.

We are closing on a time when Obama will say enough is enough and unleash a bloodbath on the people who refuse to conform and surrender to his madness.

I will not be silent, I will not comply and I will never bow to any man.

Once before others tried to force such from me and took an eye and nearly my life; they have no hold on me for I belong to God.

Until freedom rings loud and clear or I go into the night, I will never surrender.

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- SaturdaysWarrior76
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:57pm
  @SNOW I’m with you. I will not comply eiether. I’ve lived long enough to know the difference between true liberty and what this Administration offers. I say “No thank you.” I think there is a book out there titled: “How to kill a million jews” or something like that… it talks about how the Jews trusted Hitler and quietly complied when they were told to get on the trains… They can’t do ANYTHING if we all stand together, arm in arm and say WE WILL NOT COMPLY. As God is my witness, if I have to, I’ll die saying it.
  
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- Ducky 1
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:09pm
  We need more Americans like you Snow!!
  
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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:15pm
  Until last Tuesday you were predicting that there wouldn’t even be any elections, because Obama would foment civil unrest, proclaim martial law and cancel them. What makes your fervid prophesying any better now?
  
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- kvan
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 3:46pm
  Absolutely Snowleopared,
  In 1962 I was a naive 17 year old Navy Recruit who believed in the US Gov., it would never lie to the American people, I was ready to give my life ot the country I loved. I wanted to fight the forces of evil in the world, namely communism. Look how far we’ve come, they’re in the White House now.
  
  I began to realize how corrupt the Federal Gov is in 1967 when i went to Viet Nam, by the time I returned 2 1/2 years later I basically no longer trusted the Gov because I knew that most of what they and the press told us were lies. Many Americans hated the military by the time I came home, we were despised and spit at, not many of us really understood why, we were just serving our country like our Fathers before us.
  
  There were riots in the streets on a regular basis, bill ayers and his weather underground, sla and others were everywhere and many of the liberal news sources loved them (enemies of America). These are the types of people now in control of our country.
  
  Race relations are much worse now than in 1962, sure we have laws but it seems that every group demonizes the other groups. There is a contest to see who is the most “victimized”!
  
  Where are we headed, I really am afraid of the answer. I don’t see Americans pulling together again until the whole country collapses and we have to start over if we are lucky enough to have the opportunity to start again.
  
  God Bless America and God Bless All Americans.
  
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- starcross1
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 5:15pm
  In the world/nation of the blind, the one eyed man is king. [hand salute, sir.]
  
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- HappyHarriet
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 5:31pm
  WOW, SnowLeopard. You and the folks who responded to you are my kinda people. I’ve said these exact same things and you can only image what kind of a misfit I am here in Greecafornia.
  
  My Grandfather 6 generations back fought the British for independence, along with his 13 sons, and every generation since has done their part to carry the flag of freedom.
  
  I’d rather be shot in the head than to bend my knee to any of this Government control, Obamacare, or anything else, including taking any “innoculations”. At least I can meet my maker with a clear conscience. And since I strongly believe in an afterlife, I feel very sorry for any lackey who does, for example, shoot me in the head while I’m standing up for freedom because I will haunt them forever and I WILL WIN and have the last say. I may live in God Forsaken Debased Greecafornia, but I’m from New York and continue to act as if I am.
  
  Thanks, guys, for being REAL men and women and being willing to do the right thing. At least I know I’m not the only person in the world who thinks like this.
  
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- zapparules
  Posted on November 12, 2012 at 8:38am
  you run with that bud
  
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powedj
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:41pm
It’s George Bush’s fault!!!!

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- zapparules
  Posted on November 12, 2012 at 8:42am
  Now you’ve got it!
  
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Gregb
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:41pm
wont make a difference..communists are already in control of our country

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Yaya2
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:39pm
Has Obama ever had his feet held to the fire for his questionable choices? How can he hold his head up and face our nation is beyond me. Perhaps when one does not have a conscience it’s not difficult. I hope he, Clinton, Panetta, and Rice are grilled relentlessly.

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ares338
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:35pm
Muddy waters are where governments operate best. Plausible deniability, top secret, eyes only…blah…blah…nauseating blah. This is over as of now……the rest is saber rattling.

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Displacedsoutherner
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:34pm
Obama has never ever seen “The Buck” much less made any attempt at stopping it. After all, what are minions for if not to sacrifice themselves for the good of the King.

And we were told Don’t Ask/Don’t Tell went away, it’s just back Obama style : What did you know; when did you know it?

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AJAYW
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:28pm
Someone told me that obama’s,panetta’s and hillary’s actions and or lack of actions resulted in these four deaths.

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kalli
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:23pm
Obama lied; 4 Americans died. Voter fraud gave this nation a dictator til its end. When a nation defies the laws of our Creator, judgment comes upon it. Woe be to those who follow this man. Look for our sovereignty to be given to the UN.

Our Lord is in control and works everything together for good for His purpose. Keep your hope and trust in the Lord who has already won the victory for us.

And, thanks to all our VETERANS today for their service and protection given to this country. As I hear the F-16s fly over right now, I pray for His blessings and peace be upon you all of you.

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Sickandtiredofextremists
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:20pm
“It’s all Petraeus’ fault”……….only he won’t live long enough to testify!!!!!!!!!! (just sayin’)

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- Gregb
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:39pm
  the communist party bribed the voters. The voters were bought with freebies
  
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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:36pm
  How so? Did Holly Petraeus buy a gun?
  
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shagstar
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:20pm
who is gonna confront these liers? John Boehner? he’s too busy shedding tears! it’s time for a 3rd party who aren’t corrupt yet.

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Ducky 1
Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:08pm
I am pretty sure that some how the POTUS will figure out a way to get a pass on this.

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- U.N.hater
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:10pm
  No shi! sherlock….
  
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- 2MINUTESTOMIDNIGHT
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:14pm
  No question.
  
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- Gregb
  Posted on November 11, 2012 at 2:38pm
  the communist in chief already has a pass.
  
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