Science

‘Unleashing the Monster’ of Climate Change, or a New Energy Source? You Won’t Believe What Researchers Are Doing With Alaskan ‘Ice’

(TheBlaze/AP) — A half mile below the ground at Prudhoe Bay, above the vast oil field that helped trigger construction of the trans-Alaska pipeline, a drill rig has tapped what researchers think could be the next big energy source.

The U.S. Department of Energy and industry partners over two winters drilled into a reservoir of methane hydrate, which looks like ice but burns like a candle if a match warms its molecules.

The nearly $29 million science experiment on the North Slope produced 1 million cubic feet of methane, according to the Associated Press.  Now, researchers have begun the complex task of analyzing how the reservoir responded to extraction.

“If you wait until you need it, and then you have 20 years of research to do, that’s not a good plan,” Ray Boswell, technology manager for methane hydrates within the DOE’s National Energy Technology Laboratory, remarked.

Alaskan Ice Could Be New Energy Source, or Unleash Climate Change Monster

In this 2012 photo provided by ConocoPhillips Alaska Inc., a drill rig at Prudhoe Bay on Alaska’s North Slope tests a method for extracting methane from methane hydrate. (AP Photo/ConocoPhillips Alaska Inc., Garth Hannum)

Much is unknown but interest has accelerated over the last decade, Tim Collett, a research geologist for the U.S. Geological Survey in Denver, added.

U.S. operators in Alaska, he said, may want to harvest methane so they can re-inject it into the ground. Crude oil is more lucrative than natural gas, which is routinely injected into North Slope fields to maintain underground pressure to aid in oil extraction. Japan, Korea, India and China, however, want to cut down on natural gas imports by burning methane. Japan is setting up for a production test on a gas hydrate accumulation in the Nankai Trough south of Honshu, its main island.

“That will be the first marine gas hydrate test anywhere in the world,” Collett said.

The U.S. Energy Department describes methane hydrate as a lattice of ice that traps methane molecules but does not bind them chemically. They are released when warmed or depressurized.

Methane comes from buried organic matter after it’s ingested by bacteria or heated and cooked. The gas migrates upward, under high pressure and low temperature, and can combine with water to form methane hydrate.

But global warming fears inevitably arise when there is discussion of a new source of energy.

Most deposits are below the sea floor off the continental shelf or under permafrost, and the Associated Press writes that shallow pockets of methane hydrate release a potent greenhouse gas that would exacerbate climate change.

Brendan Cummings of the Center for Biological Diversity said research money should be poured into renewable resources, not more fossil fuel sources. Methane is 20 times more effective at trapping heat in the atmosphere than CO2, though not as long-lived.

“Any exploration activities designed to extract methane hydrates run the risk of unintended consequences, of unleashing the monster,” he said. Even if methane is extracted safely, burning it will add to climate warming, he said.

Alaskan Ice Could Be New Energy Source, or Unleash Climate Change Monster

In this photo taken Tuesday, Oct. 23, 2012, a Ward Air floatplane makes a landing approach to the Juneau International Airport with a backdrop of the Mendenhall Towers in Juneau Alaska. (Photo: AP)

The world has a lot of methane hydrate, though not all of it is accessible. A Minerals Management Service study in 2008 estimated methane hydrate resources in the northern Gulf of Mexico at 21,000 trillion cubic feet, or 100 times current U.S. reserves of natural gas. The combined energy content of methane hydrate may exceed all other known fossil fuels, according to the DOE.

And it will not be simply dug out of the ground, Boswell noted.

“One of the basic messages is, we’re not mining,” he said. “It’s using existing drilling techniques.”

The Alaska research focused on a method aimed at preserving the underground ice structure. Researchers in a laboratory injected carbon dioxide into methane hydrate, and CO2 molecules swapped places with methane molecules– freeing the methane to be harvested but preserving the ice.

The DOE worked with ConocoPhillips and Japan Oil, Gas and Metals National Corp. to see if it would work in the field. They named the North Slope well Ignik Sikumi, an Inupiat Eskimo phrase that translates as “fire in the ice.”

Researchers are optimistic.

“From the lab data we had, it seemed like it was some strong evidence that it was not a lot of wholesale destruction of the solid hydrate,” Boswell said.

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Comments (142)

  • ClarityPlease
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 9:27pm

    couple of things that caught my eye. “Methane is 20 times more effective at trapping heat in the atmosphere than CO2, though not as long-lived.”. First recent research indicates that CO2′s effect on the atmosphere has been over estimated by 10 times. So that comparison does not work, who says that the data for methane retaining heat is accurate? Also the the article indicates Methane is extremely effective in trapping heat, but once burned it is no longer methane so what is the effect of the by products of burning? Probably a whole lot less. Also there is all this worry about global warming and methane releasing from the artic ocean. Let’s get it out and burn it so has less effect.

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    • AbrahamsSheepdog
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 1:22am

      True. Also I think that’s what is 1 of the quiet things being looked at there. Its fun to grow “things”

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    • NaughtyNala2k4
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 10:27am

      The methane leaking from the Arctic ice and sea floor is causing another hole in the ozone above Siberia. This in turn allows more UV rays from the Sun into our atmosphere warming the ice, which melts and releases more methane…………..it’s a circle of catastrophy.

      @BLACKCROW: It’s HAARP, not HARP

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    • landowner
      Posted on November 13, 2012 at 2:18pm

      You could also dispute the second hand smoke scare as the EPA had to light 10 cigs and hold the sensor over them to get enough “danger” to scare us all. Liars always lie.

      No I’m not kidding and I don’t particularly care one way or the other so no agenda. Just commenting that science is like a snowball anymore. Used to be to get the truth. Now it is to get the grant.

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on November 13, 2012 at 7:35pm

      This caught my eye: “Japan, Korea, India and China, however, want to cut down on natural gas imports by burning methane.” Natural gas IS methane. Sure, some other gasses come along with methane out of the well, but those are more valuable and are condensed and sold separately.

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  • ProbIemSoIver
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 9:16pm

    100% weather Manipulation
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEfJO0-cTis

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    • The_Pointy_End
      Posted on November 11, 2012 at 10:01pm

      No it is justification for a global tax. They cannot tax you for breathing air – because first off, they do not own the air and second animals breath. So, the UN has to come up with some other BS to tax that crosses country boundaries. So bring in Global Warming and Climate Change so they tax your output. This is just a back door breathing tax. Global Warming = a tax for breathing.

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    • BillyBobJoeJim
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 11:06am

      What on earth makes you think they can’t tax you for breathing? This is the executive order master! Not to mention “The One”. He will do what ever he wants. If Congress tries to stand in the way, he’ll just use his pen to make it law…….

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  • GlennaBeckski
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 9:00pm

    Do yourselves a favor and google Jesse Ventura and HAARP.

    HAARP is in Alaska .. it’s weather related.. 99% of the people don’t have a clue it exists.. much more interesting than this story… no offense Blaze.

    Messed up my Java today.. can’t paste : (

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on November 11, 2012 at 9:20pm

      I have been spreading the word my brother.

      There will be a class action lawsuit In which I will be a Plaintiff.
      You should file a claim also.

      They have been assaulting us. Bottom Line.
      I want to see heads on sticks !!!!!

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    • BlackCrow
      Posted on November 11, 2012 at 9:21pm

      I know exactly what HARP is. I maintained the warning radar at the HARP site from 95-07. HARP is nothing more than a beam steering experiment working in the HF, LF and VLF radio bands. It is not weather control, mind control or anything other than a radio beam steering project. Look up Phased Array Radar that is commonly used in aircraft then apply the same principal to radio in lower bands and you have HARP. If that is too technical for your pumpkin head then go right on and believe Nick Beggage and his lunatic friends.

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    • spfoam1
      Posted on November 11, 2012 at 9:44pm

      @ GLENNABECKSKI……if you’d stop drinking bong water Jesse Ventura won’t put such a thrill up your leg. Next time use plain water to make your java. If you need to add something else, try some Irish whiskey or brandy, as they aren’t as hallucinogenic.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 1:04am

      Why are the libertarians (a substantial chunk of them) so enamored with stupid fake conspiracy theories, instead of the real ones? Youtube vids instead of a thorough technical analysis? Yeah, that’s the ticket!

      Thank you guys for helping to reelect Obozo, effectively. Schmucks.

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    • Government_Goodies
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 8:05am

      I have an Anti-HAARP Personal Protection device. It’s made of metallic foil and you apply it directly to your forehead. It can be yours for 3 easy payments of $99.99.

      But wait, if you order now you get a biorhythm harmonizing bracelet absolutely free!!!

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    • starman70
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 8:10am

      The intense radar beams used in the HAARP experiments can cause upper atmospheric stimulation ad cause a Northern Light effect in a limited area. There is no way that HAARP can generate or control storms or droughts, no less where storms will travel.

      In stead of worrying about HAARP, RESEARCH AGENDA 21 and study all the implications that it can and will have on citizens in this country and worldwide. The UN is trying to take over the world and even your property rights. Many of our own cities, counties and states are abetting the process by passing laws and regulations in line with Agenda21 and which will secretly remove your rights without your knowledge.

      If we don’t wake up and stop this movement in its tracks NOW, it will soon be too late.

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    • BlackCrow
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 9:18am

      @starman

      Do you have any background in radio or microwave? Are you familiar with wave propagation or antenna theory? What you assert ignores the inverse square law. Look it up! Jessy Ventura is not a communications engineer. Nick Beggege is a herbal medicine salesman. They know NOTHING about the science behind radio.

      I spent thirty years as a radar/microwave technician. Twenty of those years working out of Eielson AFB and maintaining radar sets all over interior Alaska including Gulcona and Murphy Dome. But if you don’t believe someone who knows even if I don’t have a well know name or sell books go right on and buy our friends anti-HARP hat.

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    • marvlus
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 9:27am

      Is this the same Ventura that thought 9-11 was an inside job?

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    • NaughtyNala2k4
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 11:12am

      @STARMAN: You have to understand that these programs, Agenda 21 and HAARP, weather modification, are connected. One program is used to further the other. Weather modifcation is something the US Air Force has been using since Viet Nam and continue to use. Weather is the ultimate weapon for controlling human life everywhere on this planet. You can cause devastation to food production by causing floods and droughts (think of the past 2-3 years in the Midwest US) which in turn makes food prices soar beyond ability of individuals to afford. SO….governments step in and you and I know people, if faced with starvation, will do whatever to stay alive. How evil have we become all in the name of AGENDA 21. If you haven’t noticed “they” UN doesn’t call it by that name because it is becoming known. Now keyword is “sustainable living” – doesn’t sound so scary and how could anyone think anything “sustainable” is bad.

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    • grayling646
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 12:19pm

      If I recall correctly, when Ventura did his show on 9-11 there was no mention of the Popular Mechanics report which debunked every 9-11 theory with solid facts that even the average Joe (like me) could understand. Why didn’t he mention that report? It has to be one of two reasons. Either he’s a zealot or he’s just another hack trying to make a buck. Either way it’s bad. I wouldn’t trust anything this clown says about anything.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 2:58pm

      Radio Beam Steering Project ???

      There are hundreds of scientists with real credentials saying that this is for real.
      That makes you irrelevent.

      Popular Mechanics Debunked ? Once again another fool plays into the Global elite’s indoctrination
      via their “publications”.

      One is a disinfo shill, and the other is just purely ignorant.

      Debunk this:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo-T_KvLNdQ

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 3:02pm

      He knows all about High Frequecy Active Auroral Project, but he is the only one I have seen that calls it HARP.

      If it is just a “RADIO BEAM STEERING PROJECT”, why all the secrecy?
      Open it up to the public more than once a year, so we can determine what is going on.
      I am talking ALL ACCESS too !!!!!!!

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    • Government_Goodies
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 3:36pm

      @Blackcrow. You’re trying to use logic with conspiracy theorists, who by definition, are outside of logic because the propositions they are advancing are untestable.

      But for some interesting, non-insane reading about HAARP and some myths surrounding it, I direct you to the links below…
      http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4122
      http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4090

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    • donkeykong
      Posted on November 13, 2012 at 1:19am

      Blackcrow-
      U-R right. I worked at the CMEWS/PAR radar base in ND back
      in 80/81. Back then it was scary stuff to me, but it was
      my job. Don’t miss ND much….too windy.

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  • Chromo200
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 8:56pm

    Folks don’t worry about Alaska .. Obama is going to give it back to Russia. He is on a cost cutting action .. Alaska for Puerto Rico. He doesn’t want to buy new Flags. The trade is a State full of white people that love their religion and guns for a Hispanic island that loves Santa Clause.

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    • BlackCrow
      Posted on November 11, 2012 at 9:24pm

      He better not, My kid is up there. If anything they need to be granted their independence.

      Joe Volger was RIGHT!

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 12:53am

      Well, we Canucks would take Alaska, if push comes to shove. We may have some spare change from the oil sales to ******. Better than back to Russia, eh?

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  • Naram-Sin
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 8:48pm

    Waiting 30 to 40 years before starting to develop energy resources is our current energy policy. Unless, of course, it will cost us $5 trillion in new debt and return next to nothing,then we’ll act right away.

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  • South Philly Boy
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 8:46pm

    Fed Govt GETS TOO MUCH MONEY

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  • scrudge
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 8:37pm

    Ah Yes….. shucks I can do that just sitting on the pot

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  • Kevin M
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 8:28pm

    Just a head’s up for those not into science – 1 million cubic feet of methane is worth ~$2,500. So spending $29 million to get it is not cost effective to say the least.

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    • Al J Zira
      Posted on November 11, 2012 at 8:52pm

      Don;t know where you get your numbers from but I would tend to think if these guys are spending $29M on the project they expect to make $29B.

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    • LoboTX
      Posted on November 11, 2012 at 10:15pm

      Al J – he’s got his numbers right. I drill for natural gas. Prices are down from 5-10 years ago, but expect them to go up as Obamma shuts down frac’ing (which he’s just done on 1.6 million fed lands). I wish physics was mandatory in high school – nobody would be *issing away money on wind/solar. Take away foolish loans, tax credits, etc. and they evaporate.

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    • kralspaces
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 10:10am

      … add chemistry to that requirement too. Thorium Molten Salt Reactors are the new energy future and lets not forget about the potential of hydrogen either.

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  • revelation2012
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 8:19pm

    when ‘they’ grab the ‘internet’ none of us will be informed

    mind it will be for our ‘protection’ – we have been so deceived

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  • soybomb315_II
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 8:15pm

    thats funny, i did a high school reasearch paper on this subject back in 1998 but havent heard about it since!

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  • spfoam1
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 8:15pm

    Wasn’t Pat Benatar singing about this stuff about 20 years ago?

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    • grimjack3791
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 8:15am

      Don’t worry spfoam1, I got the reference even if nobody else will.

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    • VTDave
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 9:21am

      I got the reference. Brings back memories from over 30 years ago when I first started listening to her music at the ripe age of 13.

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  • Carrie3570
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 8:15pm

    This has got to be one of the most confusing stories I have ever read on The Blaze. I think this could have been explained in a way that was easier to understand.

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 8:14pm

    If it’ll lower our energy cost you can be sure Barry and his central planners will regulate it out of existence.

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  • Ded-Bred
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 8:05pm

    Erica, While you may believe you’re doing unbiased reporting & have reliable sources, you do not. If you’d just do a little more research you’d discover that there are relatively few in the scientific community who believe there is any such phenomenon like ‘global warming’, which has now been renamed “climate change”. The instigator of this latest fraud confessed he fudged the entire subject & just a year ago or so 300+ scientists showed up @ the U.N. to testify there was no evidence to support climate change & weather is cyclic; just once I’d love to read an article by a journalist that wasn’t steeped in lies & propaganda. But if I ever do, it certainly won’t be in the blaze-beginning to think you’ve been bought out by msnbc—hacks, weenies & morons.

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  • Grady
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 8:03pm

    For anyone who has lived a life in the HVAC situation since 1993, you can see this being banned. The Clean Air Act of 1993 made billions of dollars in extra costs to ban freon like R12 and an most recently R22 freon. This is fascism at best. This will be banned as an alternative fuel due to the greenhouse effect regardless of the effectiveness.

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  • Stelex
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 8:02pm

    Obamy is squashing America’s energy, right after the election he closed 15 oil rigs out west. The EPA has gone balls to the wall against the coal industry which you will see shortly. The fools that elected this enemy of the state will be the first to fall. For four years Obama had his foot on the throat of energy and business. Now comes the death punch……Cass already wrote all the choking regs and now Bamy will just impliment the one by one. As American business feels its death throws the people will slowly suffer. The nation has been fractured……and progressives know how to play the pieces. Thats why we lost…..and thats why the ecconomy will collapse. Prepare my friends make like minded friends and survive….Its gonna get ugly.

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  • Nehemiah6.3
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:56pm

    we don’t need no stinking methane and natural gas, there is lots of hot air now that we have elected a hot air in chief.

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  • ronwagn
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:53pm

    There is ten times as much natural gas in ocean beds as on land. Natural gas is the future of energy. It is replacing dirty old coal plants, and dangerous expensive nuclear plants. It will fuel cars, vans, buses, locomotives, aircraft, ships, tractors, air conditioners, engines of all kinds. It costs far less. It will help keep us out of more useless wars, where we shed our blood and money. It lowers CO2 emissions. Over 2,600 natural gas story links on my blog. An annotated bibliography of live links, updated daily. The big picture of natural gas.
    ronwagnersrants.blogspot.com

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    • drs1969
      Posted on November 11, 2012 at 11:54pm

      And it’s too cheap for Big Oil to profit. That’s why they keep pumping it from Arabia and importing it here. They can keep the market held captive this way. Every time you buy gasoline, about half is imported. They wish it all was.

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    • pdw
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 7:32am

      I worked in the oil-patch in the 1980′s and I know off-shore they burned off gas as it was not cost effective to ship. If you have ever been out near a off-shore platform you have probably seen a flare burning.

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  • thedirtmover
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:36pm

    Excuse my redneck schooln, but doesn’t methane burn cleaner that everything else except hydrogen?
    Or did I skip class that day? And of course the ECO freaks hate that too.

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    • Stelex
      Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:52pm

      Methane burns pure…..your dead on. With the amount of Sht coming out of Washington……we should be set for life.

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    • drs1969
      Posted on November 11, 2012 at 11:45pm

      Just remember, the Global Warming crowd is sponsored by Big Oil(notice the BP commercials) and the Federal government who want more of our money and are willing to tell any lie to get it.

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  • Grand design
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:36pm

    How long will it be before Obama shuts it down?

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    • revelation2012
      Posted on November 11, 2012 at 8:12pm

      ‘he’ has more tenacles than an octOpus – ‘he’ wants to ‘surprise’ yet again

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  • ThePostman
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:30pm

    Pretty funny that “japan wants to use methane instead of natural gas”. Is a high school degree required to be a writer anymore?

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    • Gary_K
      Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:35pm

      Natural gas’ main component is methane (CH4).

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    • COFemale
      Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:52pm

      Apparently not based on your statement.

      Methane is a component of Natural gas, thus other parts exist, such as carbon dioxide, nitrogen and hydrogen sulfide. Thus methane can be separated from the other hydrocarbons.

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    • Nehemiah6.3
      Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:53pm

      @Postman,
      you cant blame the scientists for not knowing that natural gas is mostly methane, they believe that we came from apes.

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    • Pontiaku
      Posted on November 11, 2012 at 8:33pm

      Nehemiah6.3, it is not scientist that “don’t know” but rather the writer whose audience of simpletons believe man spontaneously appeared in the image of some god that existed in an infinite amount of time before us and just happened to need eyes to see nothing, a nose to smell nothing, a mouth to chew nothing, legs to walk on nothing, hands to grab nothing, and a tongue to talk to himself.

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 10:23am

      @pontiaku correction, time did not exist before Him.

      “How does God acting before time began get around the problem of God’s creation? There are two possible interpretations of these verses. One is that God exists outside of time. Since we live in a universe of cause and effect, we naturally assume that this is the only way in which any kind of existence can function. However, the premise is false. Without the dimension of time, there is no cause and effect, and all things that could exist in such a realm would have no need of being caused, but would have always existed. Therefore, God has no need of being created, but, in fact, created the time dimension of our universe specifically for a reason – so that cause and effect would exist for us. However, since God created time, cause and effect would never apply to His existence.”

      http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/who_created_god.html

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    • Pontiaku
      Posted on November 12, 2012 at 11:40am

      The_Cabrito_Goat, creationist fabrications to protect bronze age myths doesn’t negate the fact that they’re still “myths” fabricated by ancient men no more honest than Joseph Smith & L. Ron Hubbard.

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  • Mike Benton
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:28pm

    Some time Monday some EPA regulator will be all over this… writing regulations.

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    • revelation2012
      Posted on November 11, 2012 at 8:07pm

      I’m sure that they have ‘them’ PRINTED and in a lovely BINDER ready to go

      re: REGULATIONS

      like everything else that is happening at the speed of light THEY had to WAIT

      till after the election,,,,,,,,,,,, NO ONE READ OBAMACARE in its current form

      what was voted ON in House was set aside and another lovely binder presented

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  • Gary_K
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:28pm

    I hear there is a lot of methane in DC. There are 3 major sources, The House, The Senate and the White House.

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  • loriann12
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:23pm

    Come on, have you never seen Alien VS Preditor? Stop digging in the ice! Sorry, a little levity.

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  • Odyessy
    Posted on November 11, 2012 at 7:22pm

    You don’t need to go to Alaska, the largest source of methane on earth is coming from all the @sses in Washington D.C

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