Pregnant Woman Dies After Irish Doctors Reportedly Refuse to Perform Abortion: ‘It’s a Catholic Country’
Savita Halappanavar’s story is a complicated one. The 31-year-old dentist died at a hospital in Ireland on October 28 following a miscarriage at 17 weeks. In the wake of her tragic demise, her husband, Praveen, is claiming that an abortion — which the hospital refused — would have saved her life.
According to Halappanavar’s family, the native of India asked numerous times if staff members at University Hospital Galway would terminate her pregnancy. Her husband claims that medical professionals repeatedly insisted that Ireland is “a Catholic country” and that, as a result, an abortion would not be permitted.
In an interview following his wife’s untimely death, Praveen told the BBC that he is confident that his wife would still be alive if the hospital complied with her request. While Savita’s pregnancy commenced normally and she was overjoyed at the prospect of having her first child, the situation changed dramatically last month when she began having back pain.
Once she reached the hospital, she was told that she was having a miscarriage and that it would be over in just a few hours. But the pain didn’t improve, so she asked for the abortion. When her request was repeatedly rejected, she was confused.
“They said unfortunately she can’t because it’s a Catholic country,” Praveen said. ”Savita said to her she is not Catholic, she is Hindu, and why impose the law on her.”
The story has attracted so much attention, that Irish politicians are speaking out:
The hospital, though, said that they could not terminate while a heartbeat was detectable, thus she was purportedly left to miscarry naturally. After three days later, Savita died. University Hospital Galway is launching its own investigation into the unexpected death as is Ireland’s Health Service Executive (HSE).
Pro-choice advocates are likely to hold the case up as an example of what might go wrong when abortion is ruled illegal. In Ireland, the procedure is not allowed unless the mother’s life is at risk (a health risk, though, is not considered a viable excuse). Savita’s cause of death was a blood infection. Additional details will likely emerge as the case progresses.
(H/T: BBC)
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1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 10:18pmThe easiest way to know whether a position is moral is to ask, “What if everyone did that?” then analyze the answer, and then make a value statement:
If EVERYONE who was 17 weeks pregnant got an abortion
- mankind would disappear
- bad
If EVERYONE who was 17 weeks pregnant and had a blood infection got an abortion
- some of the pregnant would die anyway and ALL the babies would die
- bad
If EVERYONE who was 17 weeks pregnant and had a blood infection was given adequate care in a free market medical system
- most of the woman and babies would survive
- good
Additionally, here is a moral dilemma for the baby-haters:
If EVERYONE who was 17 weeks pregnant and had a blood infection received an illegal abortion resulting in an incarcerated doctor; EVERYONE else who was 17 weeks pregnant and had a blood infection would have no one to care for them and die anyway.
Another one: If a woman has the right to kill her baby, and a person has the right to physician assisted suicide, doesn’t the physician have the right to refuse to perform the abortion or render the assistance?
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 11:26pmWhat if EVERYONE posted on the Blaze?
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RobKraft
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 5:51amI agree, this is more a function of whathappens in a socialized haelth care system than it is a religous dogma issue. Read fresh political commentary at: http://smallcraftadvisorychronicles.blogspot.com/
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G-WHIZ
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 10:13amIn our U.S.A. Catholic hospitals do not perform abortions unless it is a cattastropic situation of killing the mother. Does NOT matter who is entered into the hospital! Read Real Catholic Doctrin! Many “Modern” fake Catholics don’t READ THE DOCTRIN and practice it!! Here is a Whole Country whom never follows what they seem to preach(only on sunday)!
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zorro
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 10:47amI find it laughable they call Ireland a “Catholic Country”. It’s how I konw they’re lying and using this woman’s death as a political tool against abortion. It’s so much easier to call this a “religious issue” than it is to face the hard truths about the procedure. I have no doubt, absolutely no doubt, that when the facts come out, it will be something else which caused this woman’s death not whatever abortion laws are on the books.
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 3:12pmZORRO…
“I find it laughable they call Ireland a “Catholic Country”…..”
How so? Would you find it laughable that they call Iran a “Muslim country”?..
Almost 85% of the citizens of the Republic of Ireland are practicing Roman Catholics…
look it up…. it’s a fact, Jack…. They’ve fought centuries of wars over it…. and to some degree, still do.
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 3:39pmG-WHIZ…
please make another attempt at forming a sentence, in English, when you sober up.
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StudyYourHistoryB
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 10:15pmThis article and the way it was covered makes me sick. Using language to promote abortion like it was the resolution to this womans problem, and the medical expert the author used to make this determination was the womans husband aka not a doctor. Abortion is obamanation no matter how you word your story. No nation that embraced abortion has ever survived the test of time. Stuff it progressives.
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Locked
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 9:18am“Using language to promote abortion like it was the resolution to this womans problem”
… she died of septicaemia and E.Coli -caused by- the miscarrying fetus inside her. If anything, the article is actually glossing over the actual facts; it outright lies at the end when it says “In Ireland, the procedure is not allowed unless the mother’s life is at risk.” Abortion is illegal in Ireland by law, no exceptions. The courts have ruled that it can be done if the mother’s life is at risk, but the law has not been changed to accomodate that.
This hospital also hosted a symposium in September that stated there is no case when abortion is necessary to save a mother’s life. Full stop.
Spin it if you want, but the hospital let this woman die. Oh, and the baby as well. If you consider this a moral victory of some sort, you’re no kind of Christian I’ve ever known.
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Dano.50
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:51pmGo back under your bridges trolls.
The doctors most likely did everything they could to save the woman and the child. And most likely, being Catholic, they weren’t just obeying some law, they were following their conscience.
I realize it’s an unfamiliar concept but, conscience, like a muscle, atrophies if not used.
Also, unless the husband is some medical expert his opinion ain’t worth squat.
And don’t go picking an extreme example to make your case. Doctors aren’t gods and bad things happen. If you want abortions performed if the mother’s dying, then at least grant the opposite. If the mother’s health is not in danger, no abortion.
And don’t “pattern” Catholic nations cause I got a bucket load of Islamic nation patterns. I’ve been through enough of them, and I’ve been to Ireland, and there was no comparison.
Which means you’ll probably say, “Well if the American wouldn’t keep everybody down.” bunk.
What keeps every Middle East Islamic nation I’ve ever been to down, is that the 0.01%ers actually do keep all the oil money, and unless you’re lucky enough to be in some oil sheik’s, family you better love herding goats cause that’s about as good as it’s going to get.
Pretty much all the successful business in those countries don’t come somebody with a dream. They come from somebody with an Uncle Sultan.
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repairsea
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:27pmWhater39 This story is about a country that has laws that some disagree with and want it politicized.Just like you, the Irish Catholics don’t like their belief system attacked.
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1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:36pmAbortion is murder, HOWEVER, I smell a political or litigational rat.
“…three days later, Savita died…”
THREE days? That sounds fishy…
Fact: 3.5 hours to drive from Galway to Dublin, 2 hours to ferry your car from Dublin to Liverpool, 15 minutes to drive to free abortions in Liverpool where the heathen would have had her way.
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repairsea
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 10:39pmYou are correct. This is the political exploitation of a dead mother, her baby, and her grieving husband. .
A society will be judged on the basis on how it treats it’s weakest members and among the most vulnerable, are surely and unborn and the dying. Pope John Paul II. (Hint – It’s a religious thing).
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VanceUppercut
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:24pm”Savita said to her she is not Catholic, she is Hindu, and why impose the law on her.”
Exactly. These people imposed their fantasy religion on someone else, and it cost that person her life. Praise Jeebus.
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1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:33pmReverse it and see how it reads:
”I said to the patient, I am Catholic, not Hindu, and why impose your immorality on me.”
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:35pmEveryone’s personal stance on abortion is somewhat irrelevant in this case. She knew abortion was illegal in Ireland when she moved there. You have to weigh all the mitigating factors of a culture before deciding if living amongst them is in your best interest. Blondes with big boobs aren’t going to relocate to SaudiArabia expecting to strut around in a bikini top like it’s the Sunset Strip, are they?
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FreedomPurveyor
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:38pmNot doing something is not “imposing,” it is refusing to provide a service. Forcing someone to provide a service which they disagree with would be “imposing.”
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repairsea
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 10:42pmThere you are. Let me see you type Praise Jesus. Why does the Lord Jesus Christ’s name give you such problem? Type it. Let me see.
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Mr_Ditters
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 10:48pmSo if you are a jewish deli owner, you should be forced to provide pork sandwiches?
The doctors were Catholic. The hospital was Catholic. If they are forced into becoming abortion butchers just because she is hindu that is them being forced to act against their conscience because of another persons beliefs.
This is all besides the point in that we don’t know what really happened. She died of an infection. An infection from what? A baby infection?
People are jumping all over this without all of the facts, just the words of a grieving husband. Lets find out what really happened.
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 11:36pmJewish delis sell pork all the time. Carnegie Deli has the best BLT on earth!… Orthodox Kosher delis are another story… no piggies there.
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TERossi
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 4:46amYou’re so indoctrinated you’re BEYOND stupid. A stupid person could understand the definition of “impose”, you obviously cannot, but you can repeat the brain-dead, bumper-sticker slogans from the Cult of Liberalism.
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Metallicat
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:23pmanother fine example of why multi-culturalism doesnt work. Now the pre dominant religion and its people are expected to abandon their beliefs to appease immigrants of another religion,that holds cows more sacred than human life. And the Catholics are called the barbarians by the liberally insane.
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Vedantha
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 1:59amYou should now about a religion before you make a comment, try to know more about India and it’s culture if you can, I am certain you will be amazed with your findings.
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robbielynn
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:15pmThe blood infection killed her not the miscarriage. They could have caught that without an abortion. Tests were not run to determine the cause, she was treated with the one size fits all socialized medicine & her blood infection “fell thru the cracks”. The new one size fits all will be what we have here soon enough. Enjoy!
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rickc34
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 11:05pmWas she septic? That will kill you.
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Locked
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 9:21am“The blood infection killed her not the miscarriage.”
The “blood infection” was septicaemia and E.Coli poisoning caused by the misscarrying fetus leaking fluid into her body.
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Black Eagle
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:14pmIreland once had a huge black-market in contraceptives. And a brisk tourism industry for women travelling overnight to Britain or the Netherlands to get abortions. As a result, they had the highest unplanned pregnancy rates, and abortion rates, of any European nation. Making abortion illegal drives up the numbers, because those who dislike abortion also dislike contraception. And as a consequence of all that, Ireland is awash in alcoholism. This is a pattern among Catholic nations. Celibate priests who hate women and sexuality, telling everyone else what or what not to do, and driving up the rates of unhappiness.
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1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:20pmYou’re right, life is so much easier when we ignore what God wants.
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sooner12
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:38pmWrong, idiot.
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josephcarlson31
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 10:45pmyeah that is just stupid. Catholic countries need to stand up for it’s rights, not pagan Hindu’s rights.
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TERossi
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 4:48amHooray for Soviet Agitprop!
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 3:36pmBLACKEAGLE..
“Making abortion illegal drives up the numbers, because those who dislike abortion also dislike contraception. And as a consequence of all that, Ireland is awash in alcoholism.”
lol… You’re not Irish, are you?
Ireland has had a problem with alcoholism since before legal abortions were an issue, or a possibility, anywhere in the world…
PS.. do Native Americans outlaw abortion? What about German’s? ..and Russians?
…is abortion illegal in Wisconsin because they drink like fish there?…. Geez… all i can say is: good luck with your junior year of high school.. don’t pick on the smart kids.
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Aldo
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:08pmI’ve lived in Ireland and seen their health care system. Odds are that the doctor was from Africa somewhere. They routinely park people on cots around the hospital because there are not enough beds. Induced comas are the norm for people they don’t know what to do with.
The hospitals are filthy. Odds are good that they never even knew if it was related to the pregnancy and probably still don’t. I recall one story about a girl who needed a kidney transplant. They had a kidney waiting for her in London, but ( in the whole country) they couldn’t find a helicopter to take her, so after 5 years on the waiting list, they gave it to someone else. ( no profit in emergency helicopters since everything is state run, so guess what…no emergency helicopter service available).
The “professional victims” (aka obobo supporters) will decry Ireland’s hesitation to perform abortions on demand. They would have killed the child to save the mother, but since they didn’t properly evaluate her, she died.
As for the “choice” question…why not tell it like it is. “In the US, it’s perfectly ok to kill your child to make your life more convenient”. That’s the law. The slackers have voted, and the producers will foot the bill.
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rghtwngcrzy
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 12:42amThis tragedy probably has more to do with the failures of socialized medicine than with abortion.
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TROLLMONGER
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:08pmWhats sad is that most Beckbots would agree with this primitive ideology. Its a good thing they are a dying breed.
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1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:19pmIn this story, actually, it was the pro-baby-murder heathen that died.
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:27pmlol.. The short version of my complicated opinion on this topic is that i am pro-choice… but i find it funny that you would call pro-lifers a “dying breed.”
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TROLLMONGER
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:04pmWOW! And just think how many more women would die if Romney was elected. We are talking mass murder here all in the name of religion!!!!
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Keatonc333
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:17pmTrue! very true!
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1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:24pmShe moved to a country with Oblahblahcare style medicine then died from lack of care. The baby did not kill her at 17 weeks. One day you will stand before your judge with blood on your lips. If you do not believe in that judge, then why are you wasting your very short temporal life on this site? I would be parasailing if I were you.
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hillplus
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:25pmPathetic statement not rooted in fact.
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:30pmTROLL, KEATON
you guys are being somewhat disingenuous here. you know very well that Romney had zero intention of limiting abortion and that was a flip/flop designed to dupe the religious right faction of the GOP base into supporting him.
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1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:02pmAbortion is murder, however, I smell a political or litigational rat.
“…three days later, Savita died…”
THREE days? That sounds fishy…
Fact: 3.5 hours to drive from Galway to Dublin, 2 hours to ferry your car from Dublin to Liverpool, 15 minutes to drive to free abortions in Liverpool where the heathen would have had her way.
Merseyside Clinic
32 Parkfield Road
Liverpool
L17 8UJ
Tel: 08457 304030
OR they could have made Paris in 15 hours if they wanted to double it as a romantic get-a-way and try to find that “special spark” to try again.
Mouvement français pour le planning familial
Lundi de 14h à 19h, mardi de 10h à 13h00, jeudi de 11h à 15h
10 rue Vivienne – 75002 Paris
Tél. : 01.42.60.93.20
Métro : Bourse ou 0800 803 803
Free French abortions announced on HuffPo:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/26/france-free-abortion-bill_n_2023729.html
One day we will discover that this woman had other choices and did not take them for political reasons and died by surprise when her actual goal was to challenge the law Sandra Fluke-style. She made her own bed.
Save the babies!
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:39pm1_SMOOT_TALL…
That was an enjoyably creative argument.. The Francais was a nice touch… tres bien!
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JEANNIEMAC
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:59pmGod created the mother and child. God chose to take the mother and child.
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TROLLMONGER
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:06pmSimple answer from a simple person.
In reality, man took womans life. Nature took the childs life. Its called murder.
Religion is a virus to humanity.
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Keatonc333
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:10pmwow. Gods kind of an A-hole huh?
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Verceofreason
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 10:23pmThe mother could of survived with proper sane medical treatment.
Besides, according to republicans god has his hands full planning rapes.
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mewnani
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 10:16amActually if you think about it this guy is correct. God determines when you’re born so naturally he determines when you die and how. I feel really sorry for the family, but I don’t think it was the lack of abortion alone that killed the mother. It seems they have no strong antibiotics or doctors over that way, and that scares me. In the US this woman could have been saved without aborting the child (not that it mattered, since they said the child was dead inside her anyway she would have expelled it), but over that way I doubt they could have saved her even if they did an abortion. They should have taken her to a more advanced hospital; that probably would have saved her life right there.
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mewnani
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 10:34amGah, I read later the poor kid still had a heartbeat. Still though, abortion or not if they couldn’t treat her infection she would have died anyway.
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BlackCrow
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:55pmThese pro-life zealots are every bit as bad as the Muslim Iman who killed his 5 year old daughter. To force your version of right or wrong on others regardless of consequences is just wrong. It is truly unfortunate that.in order to preserve the majority of liberties it is necessary to ally oneself with people like this. If your religion contradicts abortion don’t have one but don’t feel it is your place to force that decision on others, it’s not.
“It matters not if my neighbor holds to one god or twenty, it neither picks my pockets nor breaks my legs.” Thomas Jefferson
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1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:05pmYour way would have observant doctors being forced to do something against their will.
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Aldo
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:15pmBlack crow,
I got it! How so you rationalize the fact that its legal to kill your child up to (and just a little after)? Furthermore, how do you rationalize the public funding of abortion thru planned parenthood? Seems to me, that’s picking my pockets. Last but not least… Would you have considered someone who defended the imam’s 5 year old daughter a “pro life zealot”.
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BlackCrow
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:16pmNo: but in a case of this nature the option should be available. The Republic of Ireland is primarily not exclusively Catholic. Absolutism in and of itself is counter to good sense.
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1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:30pm@Blackcrow, “Absolutism in and of itself is counter to good sense.”
Are you ABSOLUTELTY sure about that?
In the dictionary under “redundant” it says “see redundant”.
Under “ironic” it says “see Blackcrow”
Now we all know you THINK like a shallow High School freshman with black fingernail polish and backwards underwear.
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Brejamin
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 10:49pmIn Ireland, the procedure is not allowed unless the mother’s life is at risk (a health risk, though, is not considered a viable excuse). Yea I found that in the article that you are commenting on so your statement. “No: but in a case of this nature the option should be available” shows you didn’t even read the article.
I find it amazing that you would use a quote from Jefferson about not stealing from him to argue for abortions paid for with universal healthcare.
What about the doctors rights? What about all of the slaves of the leeches rights? Why is it always the rights of select groups over others?
Sounds like the arguments of the Dixiecrats all over again.
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RedheadTexan
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 11:20pmSo by your logic, we shouldn’t judge those who have their daughters undergo female genital mutilation, or people who like little boys. Maybe we shouldn’t have laws at all. Who are we to judge someone else by our values? That is part of what makes a society you idiot… deciding on a shared set of values and definition of right and wrong.
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mewnani
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 10:18amUm…. you know aborting a child is murder right? That kills somebody.
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Locked
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 10:39am@Brejamin
The article is wrong. Abortion in all cases is illegal in Ireland by law. The courts ruled 20 years ago that exceptions should be allowed in the case of the mother’s health, but the laws were never rewritten with this exemption and abortion in all cases remains illegal.
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whater39
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:36pmStraight up murder!!! That’s so wrong of the hospital. They murder that lady. They leave her to basically die. Then they hide behind religon as the reason as their reason for it. Total BS. I hope they get a massive law suit agaisnt them.
The people who say there should be no abortion are stupid. This is an exact sitatution where it shows why they are stupid. They would prefer the mum & kid to die. Then just the kid to die. And they don’t consider over population.
Maybe rape babies are a gift from god. Geez glad that guy didn’t get elected.
I also love the oxymoron people who are Pro-life & also for the death penality. But are prob against euthanasia.
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BrotherWill
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:50pmYou are an idiot. Murder the baby because it MAY save her? It said she died of an infection. How is murdering her baby going to fix that? Moron.
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buckhead patriot
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:07pmFirst, maybe we should blame the socialized medicine in Ireland….While it’s sad, the blood infection may have caused the miscarriage and the woman would have died without proper care regardless of the miscarriage. For you to say that Pro-Life people are hypocrites because we don’t believe in capital punishment is a ridiculous argument. Someone is being punished for a CRIME & the frequency of capital punishment is a pittance compared to abortion.
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1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:07pmShe took three days to die and could have had a free abortion in Liverpool in less than 6 hours.
Fact: 3.5 hours to drive from Galway to Dublin, 2 hours to ferry your car from Dublin to Liverpool, 15 minute drive to free abortions in Liverpool – heathen gets her way.
Nope, she was an activist that miscalculated.
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1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:16pmThe unborn are innocent and cannot freely choose to harm others. People on death row are guilty and freely chose to be violent. Doctors are people who try to keep others alive and healthy – like Chirst did. Conversely, a culture of death glorifies only the Adversary.
Abortion was the first step, allowing doctors to help people die is the second step, government doctors deciding who lives and who dies is the third step, bloody revolution follows.
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Verceofreason
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 10:24pmAn infection caused by a decaying fetus,
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toiletclogga
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:35pm14 out of 100,000 births end with the mother dying. 22% of pregnancies end in abortion. 22% of 100,000 is 22,000. 14 mother’s lives traded for 19,986 babies lives. I’ll side with the babies on this one. Stop the slaughter!
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toiletclogga
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:42pmMy math is bad, 21,986 babies traded for 14 mother’s lives.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 7:03pmThe famous human shield that protects abortion. That, and ‘cancer screenings’ and other such devices which are nowhere to be found in your average abortion mill.
I don’t care if Aushwitz passed out Tylenol. That doesn’t justify it’s existence.
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Chromo200
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:29pmSavita Halappanavar’s story is a complicated one, and sad that she passed away. I wish the Dr.s did more for her, but it seems that the 300,000 babies that are killed every year many people don’t have sympathy or tears for.
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whater39
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:39pmBut it’s not a baby, it’s NOT BORN. Worry about the living, not the un-born.
If your really worried about the living. Then how about end the war on drugs. And get the military out of war zones. How many LIVING are dying there
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toiletclogga
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:43pmDrugs turn you into the walking dead. Put down the pipe!
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Duddio
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:47pmThe unborn are living, with unique DNA. If a single functioning cell were found on a distant planet, the world’s scientific community would hail the discovery of life on another world. Yet, thousands of cells in the womb of a mother are dismissed as “not living.” Anyone who believes a child in the womb is not life is deceived.
A life is a life, whether inside the womb or outside the womb. Both mother and child should be given equal opportunities for survival. Stop the genocide of innocent babies.
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THXll38
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:50pmwhater39 -
I try to tolerate people like you, but when the sperm meets the egg, it is a human — this is a fact. When there is a heartbeat, this is life — a fact. It is silly and moronic to believe that if something is not born, it is not a baby.
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Metallicat
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:17pmI love how one side of the liberal party claim they were created “that way” in the womb,while the other half of the liberal party says that life doesnt begin in the womb,and your nothing but a lump of cells. Liberals contradict themselves so much,its like a watching a dog chase his tail.
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glassaudioguy
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:32pm@Whater39- I DARE you to tell some pregnant woman that what she’s carrying isn’t a baby! And don’t forget the expression “if it’s not a baby you’re not pregnant.”
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Metallicat
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:43pmDuddio
Excellent post!
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repairsea
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 10:09pmYou should see the movie Silent Scream before you make that statement about the unborn. It is murder and you can choose it in the US but not in Ireland. If you want to take up a cause for women, how about teaching women self respect for their bodies and minds.
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repairsea
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:24pmHow sad for the husband to lose his wife and child.
Many countries have strong laws like this. Lets not forget the stoning of a woman or honor killings. You need to understand the laws before moving to that country.
Attacking Ireland is not the solution. Educate yourself.
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PubliusPencilman
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:28pmStoning and honor killings? What the heck are you talking about?
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Keatonc333
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:17pmI do agree! not allowing abortion is similar to an honor killing! its essentially the same thing!
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repairsea
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 10:22pmI have to throw in stoning and honor killing. It is bait for those liberal coexistence bumper stickers that apply to all but the Catholics. Should I have mentioned instead that I just ate a piece of their Indian gods for dinner or would that be in poor taste?
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 7:05pmlol you ate their Gods?
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blackyb
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:22pmThis is totally none of American business. We have enough on our plates than to take on the characters of people in other countries who have to make their own decisions. As for me, she should have been able to make that choice since her life was in danger, but I am not living in a Catholic country. It seems people do not have common sense to act or trust God enough to even save a woman’s life, nor do we know the whole story. I am very much against abortion, but to save her life, the woman should have made that decision. I do know people who have been faced with aborting and held off and both were saved, but each case stands on its own merit.
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Pantloadian
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:44pmYes, the “woman should have made that decision”. It should have been her “choice.”
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BrotherWill
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:54pmNobody has the right to murder another human being even if its growing in her womb. Sorry, its another human being you’ll just have to suck it up.
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Tractorboy
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:19pmHey pants, see we have some pearls of wisdom spilling from your dirty diaper again…….how about we give the kid a “choice” let the kid grow to about 20, then they can flip a coin and see who gets to die? since your all about fair and all.
Abortion is a selfish barbaric act.
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Pantloadian
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 10:39pmBROTHERWILL . . .So I assume you’re against capital punishment.
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Gourdy
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:22pmSadly, this is the reality of Sharia like law in Western countries. There isn’t much separating this law from Islamist law in the middle east.
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whater39
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:41pm@Gourdy. But this is Catholic Law!!! Stop trying to mislead others to a differnet topic.
Learn how to make a proper arguement.
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repairsea
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:44pmI support his argument. This isn’t even about abortion. It is about you attacking the belief of the Catholic Church and the Irish. So in your argument, we have established you hate people of Christian faith, the Irish and the unborn.
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1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:46pmScrewy reasoning. Catholicism stands against abortion out of respect for innocent life and the gifts it brings; while Shariah stands against innocent life in many cases and they are not pro-life out of a love of innocent life but out of a strategy to systematically populate the world in obedience to their dog of a moon-gawd and false boy-loving pro-fit. Get it?
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mewnani
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 10:24amOk, lets compare the differences between Ireland and a country under sharia law:
In Ireland: You can’t abort unborn children
Women have the same status as men
It is illegal to murder someone
You are free to go under whatever religion you like.
In Sharia Law: Women are treated like cattle
It’s legal to stone a woman for being raped
Abortion is illegal (to my knowledge)
They will kill your butt if you don’t follow Sharia Law.
Something’s wrong here….
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freeberty
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:21pmCan’t argue with God’s Will, hopefully 1 day all miscarriages will be investigated by the authorities to make sure that there wasn’t criminal intent.
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Kupo
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:33pmLOL are you high?
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freeberty
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:53pmLOL, just wanted to see if I could out crazy the crazies, most of the time I’m seriously outmatched.
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jaemd
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:06pmThat’s absurd. As many as 50% of pregnancies end in miscarriage and doctors can rarely even explain why they happen.
http://www.webmd.com/baby/pregnancy-miscarriage
At least try to educate yourself on female biology before making outlandish statements. Clearly your idea of a ”free country” is one where women are subjected to perpetual witch hunts.
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DoomsdayProphet
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:15pmThe law is the law. About time someone followed it. Go Ireland.
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Pantloadian
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:45pmYes, yes . . . The law is the law. And the law in America is that abortion is legal. Keep at it, you’ll be an American one day.
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The-Monk
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:05pmHowdy Wango,
Missed you today after you left at 11:45 am. LOL
Where you been son?
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The-Monk
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:10pmHey Wango,
Come on back I got something for you…. seriously. I swear!
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Walkabout
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:14pmWhat cause the blood infection. The placenta tearing? Or was the blood infection causing the miscarriage?
I think Jewish law permits abortion in the case of the mother life being at risk.
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Jenny Lind
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:13pmHow unbearably sad. Now she will never have a baby or live a happy married life. I believe in abortion to save a mother’s life, this was just poor medicine. Her grieving husband has a right to have some answers.
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repairsea
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:31pmThis is horribly sad story but that is the law in that country.
BTW – 48 million women have died from abortions since Roe VS Wade. We know what killed them. The abortion.
1.29 women in the USA in 2002 died from abortions. You assume the abortion would save her. You don’t know what her prognosis would have been but you are willing to blame the doctors because they are Irish Catholics.
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Pantloadian
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:43pmYes, yes, horribly said . . .unbearably sad . . . thank GOD idiots like Romney and Ryan and Akin and Mourdoch didn’t win.
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whater39
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:46pm@repairsea.
That’s someone else’s life & their choice how they want to live it. Not yours.
And women also die from child birth. Where is your stat on that? Oh….. missing. Only want to think of one side of the topic.
And where is your stat on how many womens lives were saved from one?
And what if a person wants to put off having a child to later in life. Say they are a teen, and want to finish school first. Once again, their life, not yours.
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1_Smoot_Tall
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:58pm@Water39 – “And what if a person wants to put off having a child to later in life. Say they are a teen, and want to finish school first. Once again, their life, not yours.”
No, they waived that right when they spread their legs. A woman does not / should not have the moral right to choose TWICE (sex + abort) and the male only ONCE (sex). That is also not equal protection under the law. She decides to screw then a moral society decides it’s a life. Simple.
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 3:23pmWHATER39…
“And what if a person wants to put off having a child to later in life. Say they are a teen, and want to finish school first.”
i am politically pro-choice. Stupid statements like yours do far more harm to the pro-choice movement than good… It makes as much sense as “what if she has a really important vacation to the Bahamas scheduled in two months… and she’s already bought the tickets?” or “what if she likes to play guitar and her fat belly will make that difficult?”.. Please don’t advocate for abortion per convenience/ selfishness. It does nothing to advance “Women’s rights” whatsoever…
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capitalismrocks
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:08pmThe questions though are:
Was the blood poisoning directly tied to the baby?
The baby had a heartbeat so it wasn’t stillborn or miscarried.
Why did the mother feel an abortion was going to change her health status?
So until some further information is given, this is another politically motivated rush to judgement.
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Gourdy
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 8:28pm17 weeks? There is no way that baby would have been able to survive. This is like the Dark Ages.
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jaemd
Posted on November 14, 2012 at 9:11pmThe hospital told her she was having a miscarriage. When the miscarriage is incomplete, as in this case, the result is sepsis.
As many as 50% of all pregnancies end in miscarriages. Doctors can rarely explain the cause. In this instance, an abortion would have most likely saved this woman’s life. It was already clear to the doctors that the pregnancy was non-viable.
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TERossi
Posted on November 15, 2012 at 4:55am@JAEMD – as many as 50% of all statistics are bull crap.
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