Officials: Only Handful of Gen. John Allen’s 20K-Plus Pages of Emails to Jill Kelley Are Potentially Problematic

U.S. Gen. John Allen, top commander of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Forces (ISAF) and US forces in Afghanistan gestures during an interview with the Associated Press in Kabul, Afghanistan, Sunday, July 22, 2012. Gen. Allen says this year’s pullout of 23,000 American troops is at the halfway point. He told The Associated Press in an interview Sunday that a significant number will leave in August and early September. (Credit: AP)
WASHINGTON (TheBlaze/AP) — Two U.S. officials say just a handful of the emails between the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan and a Florida woman are potentially problematic, but the vast majority of the 20,000-plus pages of documents reviewed by investigators were routine.
The disclosure puts a clearer perspective on the breadth of questionable communications between Gen. John Allen and Tampa socialite Jill Kelley. Officials have described some emails as inappropriate and “suggestive.” Allen has said he’s done nothing wrong.
One of the officials put the number at five. The officials were not authorized to publicly discuss the investigation and spoke on condition of anonymity.
Kelley is a key player in the scandal that uncovered ex-CIA Director David Petraeus’ affair with his biographer and led him to resign.
Allen’s nomination to lead the U.S. European Command is on hold while the investigation continues. He continues in his job as commander of the Afghanistan war.
On Thursday, the “shirtless” photo of the FBI agent who initiated the investigation that led to Petraeus’ resignation was uncovered. Despite being marketed as potentially suggestive and inappropriate, the photo showed the agent, Frederick Humphries, jokingly posing next to two target dummies after a work out because they looked so similar to him.
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loveliberty83
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 1:21pmokay if they want to play ask who she was visiting in the WH–hmmm valerie jarred (she is the power behind obama) , what did they pay her to start this crap ? hey where is her surgeon husband–come on reporters how come you haven;t located him if this is a sex , how come know & yes no one has tried to talk to the husbands come one folks we know how these things work all Bs good reporters do not protect the husbands
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YAHSHUARULES
Posted on November 18, 2012 at 2:50amAll these comments about emails that have sexual innuendo – that is not the issue! Focus on the fact that there were 20,000 pages of emails what do you think was being said?
This might give you a clue:
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/56333/jill-kelley-helped-muslim-nations-hezbollahs-lebanon-infiltrate-central-command-macdill-base-go-to-girl-for-muslim-parties-w-generals
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hookshot1
Posted on November 18, 2012 at 7:01amloveliberty83: Where in the hell did you go to school???
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anothercomment
Posted on November 18, 2012 at 9:15am@YAHSHUARULES
Personally, I keep looking for the other hand and what it’s holding, or hiding. This article is incredible, and yet NO ONE has even mentioned this in the hearings. I agree with Debbie Schlussel, there is far more to this story. This doesn’t excuse or even explain the behavior of these high ranking men, it just shows how many avenues the enemy has managed to infiltrate.
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EM2T93
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 12:54pmOh, ok then. So, Mrs. Kelley, just a few are problematic. And, just a few were problematic for national security interests.
ONE that is “potentially problematic” is enough! I wonder how many of the “non-problematic” emails were just excuses for this man to contact that nitwit woman in the first place? As I’ve stated previously, while he was ticking away on the keyboard in Afghanistan, the troops were fighting and dieing at that very second. Also, I know what it’s like to stand by someone during deployments, so for his wife of so many years, I am extremely empathetic as well.
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YAHSHUARULES
Posted on November 18, 2012 at 2:45amNo the problematic ones to them are the ones with sexual inuendo…but maybe you ought to look into problematic like these twin sisters are promoting Islamic interests and corrupting and influencing America’s top generals to that purpose as self-appointed, non-registered lobbyists 20,000 pages of email and all officials are worried about are a half dozen? What is in the other 20,000 this may give a clue…
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/56214/petraeus-catfight-did-ex-cia-director-have-more-girlfriends-other-lessons-i-learned-from-the-general
or better yet:
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/56333/jill-kelley-helped-muslim-nations-hezbollahs-lebanon-infiltrate-central-command-macdill-base-go-to-girl-for-muslim-parties-w-generals
If the links don’t work just go to http://www.debbieschlussel.com and look them up.
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marianner863
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 10:30amWhat better way to deflect the incompetence of the Obama administrations handling of Benghazi then to discredit and malign anyone who can prove your incompetence? They vetted Gen. Petreaus before making him CIA chief – they didn’t know about his affair then? And this Kelly women has visited the White House on several occasion, including 5 days before Petreaus resigned. She also thinks she’s an honorary diplomat. Need to stop wasting time on this stupidity and find some Congressmen and journalists who are interested in getting to the truth behind Benghazi.
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barber2
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 8:47amTwo important issues here : One, ” White House Talking Points.” Ever here that phrase used so much before ?? In the New Far Left Democrats dictionary ” talking points” means BS. Two: What ever happened to the ” stand down ” order ?? THAT is the issue our White House is trying to evade with their ” talking points” now in their Lap Dog Media. The American people want the ” stand down ” order investigated. Stop with this sex soap opera distraction. EMAIL. Get this back on the burner. Do not let the White House smear the military and evade this REAL issue here. Four Americans died in this leadership fiasco , the day before Obama campaigned in Las Vegas…..
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G-WHIZ
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 10:11amKing-O’commie voted PRESENT and 4-U.S.A. LEGAL CITIZENS DIED!! MSM has no problem with that!
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HowardSternIsABigot
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 8:35amHow many problematic ones does it take? what a joke. This so called general illustrates the sell out politicians that populate the DOD. There isnt a broom big enough to sweep out this mess. Even Obama and his mop wont be able to handle the human waste.
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G-WHIZ
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 10:13amIt should….itsa: COMMUNIST/SHARIALAW MOP!!
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watashbuddyfriend
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 8:10amHow is Mrs. Allen handling all of this? Yo sins will find you out!’
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ares338
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 7:28amInstead of writing 20,000 pages of emails do you think he might could have actually paid attention to his job. Dumbass needs to be a second lieutenant.
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johnpaulkuchtajr
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 7:50amGeneral Allen was one of the first Commandant’s of the US Naval Academy from the Marine Corps.
Allen gained immediate negative notoriety in his new post by firing faculty who enforced rules, regulations and traditions by demanding push-up’s and such from offending cadets. Allen seems to adhere to Obama-like philosophies of governance based on theory, not practice. Take the Obamnomic theory of spending your way out of debt. Allen would back an idea like that!
“Remember Benghazi”
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leftcoastslut
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 7:23amas the POTUS smears the military, Isreal is burning
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Eastinfection
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 7:14amI won’t read anything that has more than 300 pages unless it’s written by Ted Bell, Dean Koontz, or Brad Thor.
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bikerdogred1
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 6:57am20 K,he must of had his whole staff helping him e-mail her.20K don’t you think that is a little too much.
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asybot12
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 6:50amLike I said before the agent is holding up two dummies with little holes in them like a trophy nothing to it.
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Detroit paperboy
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 6:42amWe could eliminate 75% of all government employees, and the average American would never know the difference……………..
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sizzlinsexybeckster
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 5:19amI think this guy’s shirtless photo is just himself being silly – he really does look like one of the dummies – there was nothing sexual about it…. you see sexual crap during rated G television shows with close to naked woman bending over in porn displays for trashy Victorias Secret commercials… so why not target that company instead.
If this man has sent emails containing government secrets – then that is a problem – because he should know his email could be tampered with by the enemies on the other side (oops, I guess they are on BOTH sides, now aren’t they…). Secret government information should never be sent in an email but spoken about in person, however, this is none of this woman’s business. I think spreading personal government information is more important than this man’s flirting – except to his wife….. is this guy even married???
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Gonzo
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 4:36amAfter seeing the Frederick Humphries photo, I completely agree with this article’s assessment of it…nothing to it. It was obviously meant to be humorous and it was. I hope the Allen emails turn out to be equally innocuous.
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Chuck Stein
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 4:01amThe volume of communication alone is a problem
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Kerbouchard
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 8:13amReading the comments on this story has been a real dissapointment. Use your brains people! I suspect the 20k figure is all printed email pages, to and from, between Allen and Kelley and that it includes the usual chain mail forwards and other such nonsense. The FBI and press counting and considering the emails this way, in printed form and considered en masse, is completely archaic and silly. The other five, or so, pages? One or two real exchanges that the FBI really has no business reading anyway. Most people do not print their emails and two lines would fill “a page” of a printed email.
I can imagine the FBI reading an exchange like “Jill, it was great seeing you last month at Joe’s retirement and I hope to see you in DC next time I’m stateside. -John” and thinking – oh my, so unprofessional and inappropriate! By the way, that was probably three pages printed with the metadata and undeleted text from the last email.
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barber2
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 8:28amKER: With this White House and their Lap Dog Media, I would expect just what you say. From phony videos to the Zimmerman media witch hunts, to the Secret Service scandal, to Fast and Furious, to this latest smear the military, this White House has an agenda. It seeps from the General “Be-tray-Us ” agenda of old. They want to “change ” America. A few reputations at a time….
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GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 1:15amWhat amount of BS and cheap crap needs to be written with a married whore in order to fill 20.000+ pages?
To give some context, Leo Tolstoy’s “War and Peace” has 1208 pages…
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TreeTrimmerJim
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 3:15amDepends on over how long, how many forwards and how long.
If email are used like texts and tweets the count could add up fast.
What the too many to legal/ethical limit on emails these days?
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GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 12:43amWell, the behavior of these two Generals and their priorities could explain why US is no longer winning the wars. Those two bastards, behaving like teenagers with these two whores, are real traitors to every soldier who died in their watch. Every single flag handed by them to the soldier’s families are stained with their hand’s dishonor….not to mention their treason to the rest of your country.
How is possible to write more than 20.000 pages of mails in two years when you are in charge of a war in The Middle East? The magnitude of the incompetence of these Generals is really inconceivable and unbelievable….
As for the government, I’m sorry Americans, but it seems the honest people in your country are really alone and without any support of any kind….
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barber2
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 11:41pm“Two US officials “….and just who were they ?? Perhaps the ones who changed Petraeus’s CIA ” White House talking points?” WHAT is going on in America ? Is this the New Obama America : the ” more flexible ” America ? The Obama Media 24/7 : The Media helps to hide those school records but LEAKS anything the White House wants to distribute ? Only one week into this four years : BAD THINGS ARE COMING….Big Brother is very active…the media is the message..
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Artlife
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 11:23pmIt’s 20,000 PAGES not EMAILS. And if you’ve ever printed out emails, especially if they retain signatures in forwards and replies, plus kept previous back and forth, it can take reams of paper for just a few. So the actual emails is likely considerably less, and we do not know the span of time. It is problematic that someone like her is taking up the time of people who quite frankly should not be spending so much time on a “socialite” who apparently spent most of her time talking out her ****.
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blackyb
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 11:20pmWhen did he have to do ‘Generalling?’ Too bad he never ‘squeaz’ (as the old timers say) a bit o’ time in there to be helping run the military. His mama needs to spank his azz for failing to TCB.
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mrs.janet.murgatroid
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 11:14pm20,000 emails at a reasonable 1 minute each is over 333 hours spread over two years time is half an hour a day he spent emailing this skank.
WHY? Every day, day after day, spending half an hour daily emailing her. WHY general WHY?
I don’t even spend that much time daily taking a dump, thank the Lord.
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Margyt
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 11:12pmThank God! If you looked at my e-mails, you’d probably find 5 that could be interpreted as “suggestive”…and then discover they were to my kids or something and not suggestive at all. Anyway, I hope he gets vindicated because this is none of our business unless he and Petraeus were having group sex with Kelley while simultaneously feeding her national security secrets. She may think she is Mata Hari but until she is proven to be so, I’d rather be out of the loop on this one.
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EM2T93
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 1:02pmIt is our dang business! What the heck was he focusing on with 20,000 emails while our troops were fighting and dieing? He was in charge of Afghanistan, Margyt. You think the troops and the families appreciate him screwballin around chasing some broad instead of taking care of immiment business over there? Who the hell is she that she justifies that much of his time? NO ONE! As someone who has stood by someone during deployments, it makes me mad as hell. Have you experienced deploymentts? If so, your concern should be greater for our troops as well as our national security.
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valleyfever
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 11:12pmWhere does a top commander of ISAF find time to write some bimbo in the states 20,000+ emails??? He might not be doing anything wrong but he sure isn’t doing much right if he wasting his attention on some skirt while his people are getting killed trying to fight a war. What do we pay these people for anyway?
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Duddio
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 11:44pmPAGES. not emails. 20,000 PAGES of emails. When you print an email, especially if it has been forwarded or cc’d to a large group, which most of these were, you could have 5 pages for one email. THEN, how many were simply things that the Gen. forwarded to a friend’s list? That means he wouldn’t have taken the time to sit down and write them, just hit send and passed them along.
There is a smear here, and I doubt Gen. Allen is guilty of anything untoward. It is the WH attempt to scare the military into not resisting his idiotic orders in a crisis. The message? Knuckle under or we will take you down and ruin your career.
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Mil Mom
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 1:10am@Duddio
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 11:44pm
PAGES. not emails. 20,000 PAGES of emails. When you print an email, especially if it has been forwarded or cc’d to a large group, which most of these were, you could have 5 pages for one email. THEN, how many were simply things that the Gen. forwarded to a friend’s list? That means he wouldn’t have taken the time to sit down and write them, just hit send and passed them along.
There is a smear here, and I doubt Gen. Allen is guilty of anything untoward. It is the WH attempt to scare the military into not resisting his idiotic orders in a crisis. The message? Knuckle under or we will take you down and ruin your career
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Very true, when I first started using email I was shocked it often took 3-5 pages to print just one. If about 5 were “Problematic” I’d ask, What kind of problem?” Did he actually compliment her for something? If she and her husband volunteered at a clinic for Wounded Warriors, could she have been contacting the Generals with concerns about those Warriors, their treatments, or comrades? If you put a compliment into the reply does that make it apppear as “flirtatious”? Remember, 5 Generals and 1 Admiral were smeared or relieved of duty in a 2 week period. “Obama did what about some guy named Ben Ghazi” I’m from the media and don’t remember him!”
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EM2T93
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 1:10pmDUDDIO…
Ok, with your context taken into account…hmmm…let me see…Nope. Still think it’s BS. She was a nobody that deserved no pages whatsoever…most especially the “few that were problematic”. Smear my rear…I come from a long line of veterans, have stood by a veteran during deployments, and it’s complete crap to give this man any benefit of the doubt once he crosses that kind of line. He compromised his troops, his country’s national security, and his dear wife’s trust and faithfulness. One page or a thousand…the line has been crossed. Done…
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Shaqfuey
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 11:06pmIf one is problematic, that’s one too many. Where is the honor?
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blackyb
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 11:30pmMany people think of their azz before they do anything but food. These are called demon crats. These hijacked the Democrat party decades ago, because many of the democrats were eating dope, smoking dope, partying or gettin abortions. They have no time for responsibity. Some join the service and hope to get some sense of responsibility and still that azz factor slips in. The army gives them food and the azz is around for the taking, some of it just flung around to steal information that will help their own countries or harm ours. Boy wont it be grand when the pink uniforms are issued to the pampered gays and they go to fighting over the generals for themselves. Those wives of the officers will really have competition from women in, and out of the military and the men in the military, etc. Boy won’t it be a grand way in which we have to support all that and the complications and spousal pay, divorce pay, dependent for life pay to male and female partners? Won’t it?
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The_Pointy_End
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 12:13amProblematic to whom? The administration who is trying to demoralize the military, or problematic to you and I.
If a sample is taken of anybody’s email it would most likely contain something “problematic” to someone. Not saying he is innocent, but I need to see the emails (in context) and hear his side before I pass judgement.
Kinda reminds me of the saying “No matter how flat you make a pancake, there is always another side to it.”
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GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 12:49amPointy,
It depends, but the end is the same because you are equally screwed. “Problematic” for Barry’s gang means the truth is coming out for the rest of your country, and in the end is something really bad for the rest of you. On the other hand, if an honest public server finds that something is “problematic”, that means something really bad for your country too.
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TreeTrimmerJim
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 3:18amWith the current administration dealing with Benghazi one honest email could be a problem.
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wbaranowski
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 11:05pmThe problem here is early troop pullout.
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blackyb
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 11:31pmWe don’t know that he has a lot of age and experience, unless he has worn old Johnson out. (I am thinking my mind is in the gutter.)
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GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 12:56amAu contraire, the early troop pullout is just one of many consequences of a long series of things like this in the leadership….
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