Judge Denies Allen West’s Request for Recount in Fla. Race
UPDATE: St. Lucie County Canvassing Board Orders Retabulation of All Early Votes in Allen West Race
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Rep. Allen West makes a point during a debate with Patrick Murphy, Friday, Oct. 19, 2012 in West Palm Beach, Fla. (Credit: AP)
A judge on Friday denied Rep. Allen West’s request for a recount of the 37,379 ballots from early voting in St. Lucie County, Fla. The decision now falls to the county’s canvassing board, which meets today at 4 p.m. EST, the Palm Beach Post reports.
Circuit Judge Dan Vaughn said he does not have the authority to order a recount. West has been vocal about his concerns regarding the counting of early votes on election night.
During their meeting today, the St. Lucie County Canvassing Board will consider whether a full recount of early votes is necessary.
Democratic challenger Patrick Murphy leads West by 1,907 votes. An unofficial vote tally is due to the state Saturday.
St. Lucie County officials recounted only three days of early voting after finding out that machines double counted some ballots. As a result, West reportedly gained 132 votes and Murphy lost 667, according to reports.
West’s attorneys argue the problems with early voting ballots are enough to warrant a recount of all early votes in the county after nearly 800 votes disappeared following Sunday’s initial recount. Meanwhile, Murphy’s lawyers say there is not enough evidence for a county-wide recount.
West said on Friday that while his team respects the court’s decision, they “remain concerned the voters in St. Lucie County will not be able to have confidence in the integrity of the electoral process and their right to a fair election.” West vowed to “pursue all legal options” to ensure the ballots in the county are counted accurately, saying there were “many discrepancies” with votes.
Jeffrey Scott Shapiro, a volunteer lawyer for the West campaign, told TheBlaze on Friday that the congressman’s supporters are disappointed with the judge’s decision, but “this is by no means the end” of the fight.
“The judge made it clear that we will still have the right to contest the election if it turns out enough votes are in dispute, and based on the problems I’ve seen in this county so far, I am confident that threshold can be satisfied,” he said.
Murphy has gone on national television and appeared on Capitol Hill proclaiming victory over West even though the race has not been called yet.
Murphy’s campaign manager Anthony Kusich released the following statement following the judge’s decision on Friday:
“Once again, Congressman Allen West’s political stunts have been dismissed by the courts. Instead of admitting defeat, Allen West wants to keep counting votes until he gets the outcome he desires. That’s not how elections work and that is not how the law works. Patrick is ready to put the campaign behind him and move forward with addressing the challenges facing the people of the Treasure Coast and Palm Beaches, first and foremost of which is getting Florida back to work.”
Attempts to contact officials with the Allen West campaign were unsuccessful.
This story has been updated with additional information.
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Comments (253)
Frodo RinosBane
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:02pmWow. If we could just find some other judges in this country who realized when they didn’t have the authority, the nation would rejoice. Why do I have the suspicion that this judge will suddenly find his authority if the question is some liberal item the voters of Florida have spoken on definitively?
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Rafe76
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:30pmHe lost.. And lost for his extreme point of views. Just like Akin and the other nutjobs.
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Stone Cold Truth
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:41pmYou’re extreme, raf. An extreme a hole.
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davidkachel
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:43pmRAFE76;
WHAT extremist point of views are you talking about???
The one about obeying the Constitution?
The one about not surrendering our liberty to a totalitarian government?
The one about freedom of speech?
I know all those ideas and many more like them are just AWFUL in the minds of you lefties, but I am uncertain as to WHICH ideas about freedom you find so offensive. Do enlighten us all.
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pateriot
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 5:05pmAllen West an Extremist? Don’t you mean an extreme color? You sir are a viralent racist. All of you Liberal hypocrits can’t stand to see a Black man in charge of you or admit that they might be more intelligent than you are!!! You notice that when it was Al Gore (a white man) that wanted recount after recount they were suing everybody in Florida to support him. Now that it is a Black man who wants a recount they can’t wait to lynch him! Why don’t you all just put your hoods and white robes back on and burn a few crosses in some Black family’s front lawn!!!! RACIST PIGS
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Rampart
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 5:07pmI’ll bet that judge woulda claimed authority to force a full recount if the DEMOCRAT had been asking…
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Pickles327
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 5:07pm@Rafe76 oh is it Ralph lol same thing I really want you to google this ok ?William Ellison slave breeder ewww even sold his own daughter into slavery and he was the BIGGEST slave trade and breeder in SC and HE WAS BL A C K wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bet they did not teach you that in public school and here is a twinkie for your efforts bro lol here is the web site article 1997 by Robert M. Grooms Americancivilwar.com * it is not a war between the states article * Hi dadrocked * waving at you * how are you doing ?
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normbal
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 6:03pmSeems to me West is losing for simple voter fraud. More people voted than were registered. Like Obama’s “win.” It’ll be a pyrrhic victory for The Obama though, look at the mess he’s inheriting. All his chickens coming home to roost.
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Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 6:28pmCan any of you tell us just what successes West has achieved while in office, as a politician that is? He has:
- Sponsored or co-sponsored 11 bills, none of which have actually passed.
- Switched to a new district.
- Claimed that 80 members of congress are full-on communists, a serious accusation, yet has never given their names
- Told Congressional Democrats to ‘Get the Hell Out’ (the irony)
- Said Goebbels would be very proud of the Democrat party.
- Says Debbie Wasserman Schultz was “not a lady.”
- Claims racial discrimination from democrats.
- Claims liberal women “have been neutering American men”
- Mindbogglingly told conservative women “we are not going to have our men become subservient” then some how connected that to “Because if you don’t, then the debt will continue to grow…deficits will continue to grow.”
- Said “Barack Hussein Obama’ a ‘Low-Level Socialist Agitator.’
- Claims “Obama supporters are a “threat to the gene pool.”
- Claims religious coexistence would ‘Give Away Our Country’
- Said “We should be censoring American news agencies.”
- Charged with violating the uniform code of military justice.
- Resigns from the military to avoid a dishonorable discharge.
So what has he actually done? Can you not see that the American people made it clear that loony sociopaths like West are not wanted in office.
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sndrman
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 6:37pmraff it was not so long ago that leftists were call nuts, unfortunately it’s still true…….sure the liberal wants to move quickly and “move forward” why should Allen have his rights ……………getting people to work is a cliche’ like shovel ready jobs…………so this patrick clown single handledly is gonna get fla working? maybe we should replace him from obama(santa-baby)………….obama and all his men still couldn’t put the economy back together again……….move along don’t need to look into just move along…………..
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Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 6:45pmPeople like crazychicken, who clearly are so unhinged it is not scary, it’s pathetic. Who cares if you think you will win a gun fight by a landslide. What matters is the landslide that President Obama and the democratic party used to wipe the floor with you. Enjoy sitting in paranoia, waiting for your war game. Meanwhile the majority of Americans will move forward and actually achieve something. Basically, if you hate America so much, then GTFO.
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kryptonite
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 6:53pmHey RAFE, from a statistical perspective, this is extreme cheating:
“As a result, West reportedly gained 132 votes and Murphy lost 667…”
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I.Heart.America
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 7:00pmObama Voter Fraud 2012
A Must Read…
http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com/
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Marine25
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 7:01pm@davidkachel
(1) “YOU ARE NOT A LADY”: to Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz
(2) JOSEPH GOEBBELS WOULD “BE VERY PROUD” OF DEMOCRATS: Wonder how that ended up playing with his Jewish constituents.
3)” LIBERALS GET THE HELL OUT”
(4) He called all Obama voters “A THREAT TO THE GENE POOL”: Not smart considering his state and his new district voted for Obama twice.
(5) “I’M GOING TO KILL YOU”: Before running for Congress, West had his 22-year career in the military end in disgrace after he abused a bound Iraqi detainee by discharging his weapon next to the man’s head.
(6) “WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE OUR MEN BECOME SUBSERVIENT”: In April 2011, West told a conservative women’s conference that liberal women “have been neutering American men and bringing us to the point of this incredible weakness.
(8) “BLINDLY FOLLOWING A COMMANDER IN CHIEF”: West said Generals “have to be very careful about blindly following a commander in chief that really does not have the best intent for our military.” What West did not mention was that officers are constitutionally bound to follow the President’s orders unless they are illegal.
(9) I AM “THE MODERN-DAY HARRIET TUBMAN”:
(10) “LET THEM GET SHOT AT”: In May 2011, the House narrowly defeated a proposal which would have required a timetable for Afghanistan. Of those who voted for the bill, West said, “I would take them and let them get shot at a few times and maybe they’d have a different
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Red Meat
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 7:38pmWest can “hit up” his Pigford people to bolster his legal fund.
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BoyScout_Mom
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 7:46pm@ Marinated25
(11) “The Angel of Death in the form of an American Bald Eagle will visit you and wreak havoc and destruction upon your existence.”
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Atena
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 7:50pmThey stole this entire election with huge voting machine fraud. They did the same thing in MN when they manufactured votes for Al Franken(stine)…. and they got away with it. They own the judges, they own the media, they own the schools, …. now they are going to own the doctors.
They sit and watch American heroes die, and they defy our patriots. What’s next?
What else do they have to do to get all of us on the streets?
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Triple7
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 8:02pmOne mention of Allen West and all the Marxist propaganda trolls come out. Allen West doesn’t fit the theme of the Marxist propaganda they spew of bigotry. The left ever the biggest racial dividers understand what a black conservative patriot means to their platform of lies.
REALITY_BITES_YOU_ON_THE_ASS<- A Marxist useful idiot troll submitted"What matters is the landslide that President Obama and the democratic party used to wipe the floor with you."
It is understood that being a useful idiot means you are indeed an idiot. There was no landslide. I would explain it to you but clearly you are beyond the grasp of intelligence to comprehend.
BTW the claim of 80 full on communists in congress was a low-ball count. He was being nice.
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mercenary4freedom
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 8:12pmRAF & fellow libs want to make up their own views.
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Servant Of YHVH
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 9:17pm@rafe
I can tell you that a true nutjob is sane compared to you. It is getting ridiculous, all of these TRAITORS our great nation is a blight upon the entire country. What I find ridiculous is that these jokers pretend to be something else by trying to look good by going to church. (I’m not speaking specifically of the rafe nutjob) It is plain as day that it is all a pretense because the ideology and ideas they have is 100% incompatible with God’s Word. And I say this because it is written in the Bible what is good and moral and these people exhibit exactly 0% of these!
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Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 9:50pmTRIPLE7: First of all, do you even know what bigotry is? You should if you spend time on this site. Disagreeing with someone or citing their congressional record is not bigotry however. On this entire thread, there is not one criticism of West that qualifies as bigotry. In fact, the only people point or discussing his race are those accusing others of racism. It doesn’t fly and makes you look desperate.
Now, about that landslide. On this very site is an article titled “Romney Landslide: Here Are the Biggest Names Predicting It & How It Will Happen.” In that article the following people predict how many votes Romney will win with.
- CNBC Anchor Larry Kudlow predicted a 330 vote electoral landslide
- Karl Rove 279 electoral votes
- George Will 321 electoral votes
- Dick Morris predicted over 204 electoral votes for Mittens
- Washington Examiner’s Michael Barone calls 315 electoral votes
- Las Vegas oddsmaker Wayne Allen Root predicted a Romney win by 100-120 electoral votes
- Glenn Beck 321 electoral votes for Romney
President Obama was elected for a second term with 332 electoral votes to Romney’s 206, a difference of 126 electoral votes. All those respected pundits called a win with electoral votes between 279 to 330 a Romney landslide. Are you seriously going to try and claim that President Obama’s total of 331 is not a landslide? Now who is the idiot? And not even a useful one at that. But seriously, let’s hear your explanation. This ough
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Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 10:13pmServant Of YHVH: Nice try but secessionists are the traitors, sore losers and whiners. I am sure you all have yelled “If you don’t like America then get out!” It is time to practice what you preach. I certainly do not try to make myself look good by going to church because I do not need fairy tales written preached by some child molester to be a good and moral person. I have an inherent sense of morality, ethics, kindness and more. If you are only a good and kind person because of fear and what an ancient book says then you are deep down truly despicable.
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semperfi1963
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 10:49pmI agree. After 50+ years of nurturing and developing a dependent social underclass, class division and an entitlement/welfare mentality, Democrats now have a plurality in the electorate in all the key electoral states. The nation is now controlled by the Santa Claus party that rewards failure and punishes success. That promises financial assistance for all of the nations losers and parasites from cradle to the grave, with no requirement to work or earn the free money and benefits they receive from the hard working, tax paying minority that has to pay for EVERYTHING!
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zebra9er
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 11:34pmGet a life Raf . The only thing extreme about West is that he is a conservative that believes in the Constitution and the American way of life. Stop thinking like a liberal and wake up.!!!
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LicketySplit
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 12:27amThe whole federal elections this year were crooked. Did the machines that voted falsely have the votes corrected? Mr West was ahead by several thousand votes at 1am and then lost by 2k votes? They didnt complete the 3 day recount of early votes as stipulated either. Is this what this country has become where our military cant vote and people that do vote have their votes changed to favor another? Shameful and disgusting. Liberals have taken brinksmanship to a new level and one that i particularly do NOT trust. Funny that out of 59 wards in Pa that not ONE vote went for Romney out of almost 20k votes isnt it? Wests election was fraudulent as well…if they deny it then there shouldnt be a problem with the recount eh? Darn crooks..we better start taking our country back or we are DONE!
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ruskyblaz
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 10:12pmRafe76, do you realize that’s a black man you are calling a nut job. You sir, are a racist!
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ColoradoCassie
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 10:13pmRafe, the entire presidential election was a fake, a sham! The American people were fooled in to thinking they were part of the political process. The very fact the Obama was re-elected is proof of it. Wake up! The Republic is DEAD. You and the rest of the country, (especially you drooling, mindless twits who voted for Obama) have no clue as to what you’ve done. When your Malignant, Narcissistic Prezeedent goes to bed at night, he doesn’t give a nostril **** about you or the rest of this country. He hates everything about the USA. Wake up fool!
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ruskyblaz
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 10:22pmYes, realitybitesyouintheass, I can refer to a source that lists West’s accomplishments. Your post lists them very well. Funny how you whine and cry over is descriptions of some people, when Democrats don’t just call people names, they destroy lives and reputations. Robert Bork, Clarence Thomas, Miguel Estrada, Linda Tripp, etc. and etc. Having said that, I know it’s your nature, so whine on, and I’ll get you some Pampers.
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froghills
Posted on November 18, 2012 at 11:26amGo see who Allen West is, if only Romney could stand up like a man and not concede in the face of voter fraud.
http://www.theonlinefisherman.com/fishing-politics-all/599-wrapped-external-conservation-sites/5944-an-interview-with-allen-west
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Gourdy
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:01pmHe’s got to be able to appeal this.
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rickc34
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:51pmAmerica’s biggest problem ..to many corrupt lawyers and judges. Tie a mill stone around their necks and cast them into the ocean. These idiots think they are greater than God, who will judge them in the end. To much is given much is required..they have to much authority and they abuse it.
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expresso
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 7:36pmA recount will prove that there are thousands of bogus Democratic votes in every single district. Its probably to late now but still good to know.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:57pmSoros’s money paid for the result he desired in this race and Barry’s it’s as simple as that. Soros controls most if not all election boards in this country so the outcome was inevitable.
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annieoakley
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:02pmI agree.
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buttpatriot
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:09pmsoros is a superhero!
DadRocked
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:10pmThen play big time hardball with them while you’re still in power Colonel. Take NO prisoners! Cash in your chips down to your people in Streets and Sanitation – Ooops we don’t know why your water is off, oops says the state trooper, oops says taxation, oops says this department or that. Don’t pull Petraeus kind of crap, just pull the strings while you can Colonel. OOPS
See, living in Chicago for 13yrs has contributed to some of the tarnish on my halo.
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Rafe76
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:31pm*cough*reaching*cough*
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Mugatu
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:33pmIs there anything in the world you dont blame on Soros? Its sad really…
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Stone Cold Truth
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:44pmAnybody who sports Guy mask yet supports an all powerful central government is a bit of a hyporcrit. Is there anything you people don’t blame on George Bush?
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DadRocked
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:47pmMugatu – WOW – Ten postings in 15 months – 1st in 3mo – coming out of the closet again to what… Stir the kettle OWS BOY! Pro Soros too? But of course, you’re not in his pockets, but in his pants.
Arm getting tired yet reaching for your handouts? Hey, there’s real news on michaelmoore.com and chrismatthews.com – Go take a look then get back to us.
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rinosrus
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:47pmwe don’t blame gwb for the death of osama bin laden.
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DadRocked
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:48pmStone Cold – Don’t go there with this goof…
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Gonzo
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 5:21pmWow, Allen West stories sure pull in the bottom feeders. Don’t they Slayer?
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 5:39pmGonzo Yeah the sewer dwellers sure come alive when they see anything about West,weird huh? Almost like a coordinated effort.
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Keatonc333
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 5:52pmDoes it ever get lonely inside your tin hat?
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 6:24pmKeaton Ah yes another parasite crawls out of the sewer to spew more BS. Tell us parasite are you looking FORWARD to the collapse of your government? HAHHAHAHAHAHA Millions of parasitical pustules rotting and expiring,ahhh yes you know what it smells like parasite? FREEDOM.
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Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 6:32pmAre you insane? What evidence could you possibly have that supports that?
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Walkabout
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 7:41pmButtPatriot: Member Since: August 02, 2012
According to BP, the most important things about himself are his lefty views & his gay identification.
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irontub
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 8:33pm@buttpatriot, you got half your name right anyway
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RANGER1965
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:56pmThe Judge denied his request because he does not have the authority. I think this is a case of jumping the chain of command rather than judicial activism.
The process needs to play out as Florida has designed it. Once the Board of Elections makes a ruling then he can appeal it if he still gets an unfavorable ruling. Then it becomes a legal issue.
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paperpushermj
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:07pmThanks for the updated information…. As always Ranger Lead the Way.
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ImaCracker
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:55pmI don’t think Allen West will give up so easily. He know fraud was committed and is hell bent to prove it. I stand with him.
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Keatonc333
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 5:53pmIt would help if there was any evidence of fraud though
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Wolfgang the Gray
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 6:29pmAgree. If the corruption in FL wins on this, Allen should move to Texas.
Allen, wish you had run for President this year, you would have had my vote! Plus, it would have totally blown the liberal’s constant rant about conservatives being racist.
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raderby
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:54pmI demand the judge tell the truth. Give me 5 minutes with him.
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encinom
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:58pmAllen West’s statement in response “wah, wah, wah, wah.”
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OurFoundingFather
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:07pmEnicom – What is the name of the Trollmaster that sent you here?! I want names you silly degenerate!
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RANGER1965
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:23pmKnowing Colonel West’s history and the way he handles things. I don’t think “Wah wah wah” is in his vocabulary.
Perhaps the stacatto sound of “BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!!”, might be more appropriate.
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Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 6:35pmCESSNA: You guys are absurd. You cannot even effectively accuse someone of being racist and have it be remotely plausible.
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irontub
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 8:37pmhey assbiter.try to make a little sense would ya?
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:53pmVaughn says he doesn’t have the authority to order a recount then get a judge that does have the authority to do so.
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encinom
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:59pmNo Judge has the Authority, Allen Wah-est lost by more than .5%. Under Florida law…No Recount for You.
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OurFoundingFather
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:05pmEncinom – do you study law in Florida?
“No recount for you” please provide some provide to your comment?
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Clownzilla
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:10pm@Encinom
Years down the road when your family is being beaten by government officials I really hope you remember how important voting integrity was.
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paperpushermj
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:11pmThe legality and therefore accuracy of the count is whats in play here. So the .5% rule should not be applicable
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RANGER1965
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:13pm@Ecinom
The only problem with your statement is that it’s wrong.
The judge doesn’t have the authority until a legal remedy is required. A legal remedy is not necessary until the board of elections makes a ruling, and it goes through the appeals process.
Colonel West’s only mistake is that he jumped the gun on getting a judge involved. Much like you posting falsehoods and conjecture.
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Tom K
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:29pm@ PROGRESSIVESLAYER : Correct ! Go to THE judge that DOES have the authority to order a recount – not just the early ballots but ALL of the ballots in District 18. With the goofiness going on how do we know Col. West didn’t have a margin of less that .5 % OR that Col. West may have already WON !
@ ENCINOM : Just read the above ! With the strange occurrances NATIONALLY, EVERY vote should be recounted.
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HowardSternIsABigot
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 5:14pmecicommie still doing the devils bidding. Its like a dog turd on the bottom of your shoe, just cant get the smell off fast enough. Hope it comes back for the impeachment trials and hears all its heroes humiliated publicly. What fun that will be.even the sainted liar susan rice, charlie McCarthy of the state department, the dummy that will say whatever its told.
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EqualJustice
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:53pmHUGE SURPRISE HERE! What are they afraid of? We all know. Every candidate has the RIGHT to a fair election and the VOTERS have a right to have their VOTES COUNTED. NO illegal votes should be allowed! PERIOD. I hope he can take this to a higher court? IF he proves this fraud, imagine what THAT could lead to nationwide?
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Tom K
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:34pm@ EQUALJUSTICE : The National Implications are huge and THAT is why Col. West’s recount may not happen. We will see if the canvassing board is fair and just.
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Robert999
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:51pmCan Col. West pay for the recount himself? If he can, we should all contribute as much as we can, even if it hurts.
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Pork_Anvil
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:51pmHaha, Allen West can now add “sore loser” to his usual “crazy” monicker.
LOL @ tea
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The-Monk
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:57pmTick tock, tick tock…. EtchySketchy
Your 5 pm deadline is approaching….
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encinom
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:00pmDon’t you mean Allen Wah-Wah-est.
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shredit
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:09pmProtesting Alan West’s request for full recount shows that you all are afraid that your voter fraud may not withstand a recount or a court battle.
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I.Heart.America
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 11:12pmThe ONLY one that I have seen “crying” lately is Obama. PLEASE vote for me…boo hoo
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Placebo
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:50pmRacist judge!
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welovetheUSA
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:50pmI am sorry…I thought it was his Right to a recount.
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Individualism
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:48pmblowback sucks don’t it allen adolf west.
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Seth Patriot
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:55pmAre you part of the 143 % ?
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truthsurfer
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:36pmYou must be one of the welfarecrats that votes 40 times via the internet from your mommy’s basement
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Stone Cold Truth
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:54pmOh look, it’s another self described libertarian who would defend Obama but smear people like Reagan or Allen West. Go ahead and babble some mish-mash libertarian talking points that Democrat operatives use in forums all day when they’re pretending to be red staters. Let me guess, Allen West is bad because of the Patriot Act and detention act, but Obama is totally tolerable, right?
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justangry
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 5:01pm@Stone Cold Truth, No they all suck. Besides no one was ever able to tell me which of Obama’s socialist / fascist policies Romney propose to get rid of…
Anyway, Rand is filibustering the Senate to get our 6th amendment rights back in next years defense bill. That’s what good politicians do. The rest can rot in hell.
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therapist
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 5:32pmMan, the trolls, and drones have been unleashed today. If fairness was to be applied to the election process then Florida, Ohio, and probably most other states should conduct recounts with representatives from both parties watching in detail.
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paperpushermj
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:46pmHere’s hoping that the West supporters come out and surround the Courthouse in protest. That will make the News on Fox. I only say Fox News, because we all know the Main Stream Media will ignore it.
As the adage goes …Republicans have to win by substantial unchallengeable numbers. More Republicans have lost to court actions then can be counted.
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Pork_Anvil
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:52pmDude, how in the world is Fox News, who boasts the highest ratings on network tv, NOT mainstream media? THEY ARE THE DEFINITION OF MAINSTREAM man, can’t you count??
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Kupo
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:53pmUhhh…I hate to break it to you, but FOX qualifies as mainstream news. It is, after all, the news channel with the highest ratings in the country.
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JUSTANOTHEROPINION
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:56pm@PAPERPUSHERMJ, if you want the lamestream media to cover a protest over this you would have to have an orgy in front of the courthouse.
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The-Monk
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:57pmFYI,
Pork_Anvil (who was) EtchASketchy; is a paid troll… he’ll clock out right before 5 pm.
Don’t bother replying to it because that’s what it wants.
Tick tock, tick tock…. EtchySketchy
Your 5 pm deadline is approaching….
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hentytapes
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:04pmYeah Fox news is mainstream – that’s why all the other networks report all the same things they do. Right? Oh wait – they don’t. They all report what the other MS media report, not what Fox reports. So who’s mainstream again? Interesting though, that you confirm the opinion of everyone who is honest: Fox is most the watched news source. Since that is so, then why do all the other outlets HATE Fox so? Is it because their own lies and distortions and obvious cheer-leading for Obama and all things liberal is being exposed? Maybe! Shoot the messenger don’t you know.
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Kupo
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:05pmMonk:
He’s still right. Fox news is as mainstream as it gets.
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Kupo
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:07pmHENTYTAPES
You need to look up what mainstream actually means. Just because a news source is mainstream doesn’t mean that all other news sources are going to agree.
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The-Monk
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:21pm@Kupo
You sound like you need another bong hit…..
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Tractorboy
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:28pmKUPO, Fox news is not a dues paying member of the “American Ministry of Proaganda” so everything they say is a lie.
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Polarized America
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:29pmWhy do they even call any of it “” News”" .it’s more like ..i have an opinion..or.. let me guess
even better……….Take A Guess Losers
sorry, but i get sick of all the bs going on, and reading 14 sources. then sitting back and scratch my head, then a month later the truth may come out, but it depends on which side it goes to. because the loser will never admit anything wrong !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Kupo
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:29pmLOL is that really the best you can do? Mainstream news sources are, by definition, those that reach the largest number of viewers. Since Fox reaches more people than any other news station by a substantial margin, then that means that it is mainstream. QED.
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Polarized America
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:50pmKUPO…yeah well it could also mean that it’s a collective of the same opinions, and many “small streams ” flow into a ” Mainstream”…..get it ?
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Kupo
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 5:40pmYeah, and there are many small conservative sources (tributaries) that affiliate with the main source (Fox). For example, The Blaze is a non-mainstream news source which agrees with Fox on most of the issues. I know that you people try to distance yourself from anything that correlates with the large left leaning news channels, but Fox is larger, more popular, and just as agenda driven as any of them. Like it or not, and despite what Sarah Palin says, Fox is a mainstream news channel.
Dictionary.com
mainstream (adj.)
belonging to or characteristic of a principal, dominant, or widely accepted group, movement, style, etc.: mainstream Republicans; a mainstream artist; mainstream media.
If you don’t think that Fox news is a principal, dominant, or widely accepted news source then you are delusional.
Get it?
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Polarized America
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 5:58pmIf you don’t think that Fox news is a principal, dominant, or widely accepted news source then you are delusional.
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If you think that Fox news is not a principal, dominant, or widely accepted news source then you are delusional………(.there i fixed it for you …cuz i never said in wasn’t )
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and i don’t belong to “” YOU PEOPLE “” you silly KID………..now go play with another issue that’s important to you . i would suggest something but i’m not sure about what KIDS are into these days
(((((( kisses ))))))))
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Kupo
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 6:24pmAhhhh, such a mature level of discourse.
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Polarized America
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 7:29pmwhy thnx… KUPO I’m glad you finally got it ..so the next time you see ” mainstream” you’ll know why people say it .. i’ll give you credit for giving the ..”Literal Definition ” that always nice, but sometimes you need to get out of the books & jump out of the box and think for yourself ../;-)
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Kupo
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 8:03pmWhat are you babbling about?
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Polarized America
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 8:26pmMe Babble ?????
PAPERPUSHERMJ
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:46pm
Here’s hoping that the West supporters come out and surround the Courthouse in protest. That will make the News on Fox. I only say Fox News, because we all know the Main Stream Media will ignore it.
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KUPO…… MSM ..fox is too….nanananan…look it up nananana i know the real definition nanana
i’m really really smart & you guys are not nanananana,,,i going to use up the entire thread and say fox is toooo fox is tooo fox is toooo nanananana ….boy o boy i really showed these guys na..na..na
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POLARIZED AMERICA
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:50pm
KUPO…yeah well it could also mean that it’s a collective of the same opinions, and many “small streams ” flow into a ” Mainstream”…..get it ?
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Me Babble ?
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Kupo
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 10:09pmYep, you’re a babbler.
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Polarized America
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 10:36pmwell since you like to look stuff up, here ya go ….>
Examples of BABBLE
He’ll babble on about sports all night if you let him.”"–<——— i'm sure you'll continue to make the "mainstream media " one of your favorite talking points in future story's .we'll see
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2. kupo
Confirming the suspections of many humans, kupo seems to be the most common word that moogles use. While some humans think this is cute, the more learned ones believe that this is a special coded message, meant to communicate with the creatures of dark.
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so are you one of those ,,,do you snuggle up to your toys a bed time sweaty
you're a spooky dude for sure
get in your jemmies & go nite nite k
seriously are you really into those toys lol
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Polarized America
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 10:42pmyup… i just looked up some of your posts ‘” mainstream media ” is your pride & joy lol
babbler
Examples of BABBLE
He’ll babble on about ” mainstream media ” all night if you let him.
btw you are a male right lol
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Polarized America
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 11:05pmomg…moogles & kupo’s are sooooooooo cute ….i’ll have to get a few for my G,daughter thanx
seriously ..you must be a female … i apologise
i only tried to explain how the msm got its name … i’m sure if you looked up every tv show & their opinions you’ll find more people ( as a collective ) watch & get more lefty’s opinion then fox
and i’m sure you were taking about prime time …right ? awww never mind…
i just wanted to explain my ” small stream theory ” that’s all ..sorry that you don’t agree
anyway , again i apologise …………………… peace
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kryptonite
Posted on November 17, 2012 at 12:07amKUPO
Word connotations evolve with cultural evolutions/revolutions. In Obamanation, mainstream = state media. Fox News is out of the political loop, thus it is not mainstream.
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toiletclogga
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:46pmLook what happened when Norm Coleman gave in to the comedian.
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meisterman41
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:56pmYeah it’s called “ObamaCare”!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sandy
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:45pmThe judge is racists……….. give the left their same medicine!!!!
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Eugene1
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:45pmIs there a D after the judge’s name?
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progressiveslayer
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:54pmNo a T for tool.
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drenfroe
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:44pmDemand the recount and go above their heads. Keep fighting.
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HKS
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:44pmIf all else failed, maybe he should have played the race card.
“Remember Benghazi”
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HKS
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:43pmLet me guess, a liberal judge.
“Remember Benghazi”
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KickinBack
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:38pmThe libby’s will be hootin’ and hollern’ at this news…Yet if you switched Rep West’s (R) with a (D) they would be screaming about how racist the judge must be.
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gyro
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:37pmthey will not let him win
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GoodStuff
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:37pmTyranny in America.
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Shasta
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:48pmChicago should be the new capital of our country now.
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Patriot760
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:37pmI would sue. He and his constituents are being robbed.
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JMJME
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 3:36pmThis Judge is out of Line, ACTIVIST Judge. The Fraud is all over this race and they have the proof.
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Oldphoto678
Posted on November 16, 2012 at 4:49pmIf they have proof lets see it, but it’s going to take real proof. You know, things like hard evidence and facts. Good luck with that…
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